Phillip Phillips Predicted to Sell 140-160K Albums

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One day album sales projections from Hits Daily Double are in! The industry mag predicts that Phillip Phillips’ debut album, The World from The Side of the Moon, will sell 140 to 160 thousand copies.

Hits predicts Kelly Clarkson’s Greatest Hits 0- Chapter One to move 45-50 thousand copies.

A second projection from Hits will likely be posted on Friday, so stay tuned!

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  • DaisyMagnolia

    That seems decent to me.  P2 will be in good shape to go gold, at least.

  • DaisyMagnolia

    That seems decent to me.  P2 will be in good shape to go gold, at least.

  • girlygirltoo

    If this holds, that will be a very nice opening week for Phillip. HDD is predicting it will be the 3rd highest debut of the week (behind Rihanna & Kid Rock). Throw in 1D and Taylor Swift, and he may not make Top 5, but he seems to be a lock to have a Top 10 debut. Congrats!!

  • http://twitter.com/BamadansPad Danny Latham

    Not bad at all!! Interscope and Little Jimmy knew what they were doing with the Black Friday release. Now, let’s hope the actual sales are in line or better. 

  • http://twitter.com/BamadansPad Danny Latham

    Not bad at all!! Interscope and Little Jimmy knew what they were doing with the Black Friday release. Now, let’s hope the actual sales are in line or better. 

  • http://twitter.com/HighTensions Jake Williams

    Just tried to give his album a chance with a listen. I still don’t get it. I will leave it at that.

  • Latin2

    I bought it and I was not a Phillip fan during the show, but Home won me over. When I listened to the snippets I was pleasantly surprised and actually like his music and bought it.

    So good luck Phil

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    There it is. Looks like my prediction of 150K was right on the money.

  • CB40

    Phillip might even get 2nd if he can out-sell Kid Rock. Rihanna no chance of course.

  • CB40

    Phillip might even get 2nd if he can out-sell Kid Rock. Rihanna no chance of course.

  • lila6089

    Phillip’s album has moved up to #2 on Itunes, between Rhianna and Kid Rock.  Not sure what percentage Itunes would have in total sales…..

  • fantoo1

    Wow that’s great!

  • tigervixxxen

    Great news for Phillip! And very amusing the prediction from Pulse months ago held true :p

  • OffLeash

    very nice if those numbers hold true. I counted on 100k, so it would exceed my expectations. However, Black Friday week is the one week of the year HDD admits their projections aren’t as reliable as the rest of the year. I hope they didn’t take into account the label projections, because if you look at those stats, labels usually grossly overestimate the sales.

  • mtlfan2

    I’m glad for him!

  • girlygirltoo

    usually very small percentage

  • jan

     Nice sales for P2 – I’m happy for him and Idol.

  • jlscott13

    Don’t forget Taylor Swift, One Direction…it’s Black Friday week where there are gonna be plenty of sales of those.

  • LeahKittyS

    It’s so funny. At first everyone was like “Ew, not another white guy with guitar! He can’t sing, he won because he’s cute! He’ll do terribly on the market, just like the others!” And now his coronation single is double platinum and his album is #2 on iTunes. I can imagine the manufacturers at the WGWG factory that’s apparently been in existence since Season 7, partying and cheering “Yes! We finally made one that works!” With David Cook’s creative arrangements, Kris Allen’s easygoing fashion sense, Lee DeWyze’s notable vocal roughness, and Scotty McCreery’s southern charm, Phillip Phillips is the one that got it right. I already have the Target deluxe album with all 17 tracks. Best of luck to him.

  • blackberryharvest

    I think Scotty started with 150-175K and he ended up selling 197K, so this could definitely trend upwards!

    It looks like he will beat Lee, Kris, and Jordin’s first week sales. Not bad for the guy who was going to “destroy the show” and “flop harder than Lee.”

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    He really lucked out with that coronation song. I can’t remember Scotty’s, but David’s, Kris’ and Lee’s were basically ball and chains that they had to overcome, not handed-to-them hits. 

  • Pippygirl

    I’m glad for PP. Now maybe this season we won’t have to hear about how tragic it is that the WGWG keeps winning Idol.

  • shell29

    Great debut week for Phil.  That said, it’s still just the first week.  His debut week might be higher than Jordin’s was but she was still able to sell platinum thanks to multiple hits singles that helped keep her album sales steady and consistent (rather than falling off a cliff after week one).  It remains to be seen if this album can do the same but at least it will have a great headstart thanks to the success of Home.

  • kmd23

    Great news for P2 for having good sales.

  • Niall

    Good numbers for P2. Hopefully he can sustain them over the long haul.

    That’s a good prediction for Kelly, too. A GH album in the era of cherry picking singles is a pretty hard sell.

  • http://twitter.com/Loretta31 Loretta

    Yeah for Phillip!!  I always knew he would do well.  He is talented, charming and personable.  

  • OffLeash

    Nah. We’ll still have to endure the anti-WGWG laments. Like every year since S7, or was it S8. LOL.

  • OffLeash

    David did pretty well with his coronation song, which was far from being bad IMO, and got the same Olympics promo and popular success.

  • jlscott13

    Well, it doesn’t matter if P2 is hugely successful or not (I hope he is), there still hasn’t been a girl winner since 2007. You can’t change that ;)

  • OffLeash

    Well, I can’t be blamed for that. P2 is the only WGWG I ever voted for LOL.

  • fantoo1

    Nah people were happy about David winning lol.

  • jcabby

    Great sales numbers for Phillip! I hope he does well. It’s not only great for him, it’s also great for the idol brand. I’m very happy for him. 

  • jlscott13

    I never voted for any of them haha ;)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ACMLXLYSSX73RNYQOUZWSO2I4U Enough already!

    They have certainly put him out there.  He is everywhere, and so is the song Home, so I hope he has a successful debut.  

  • http://twitter.com/svmreiter Susan Reiter

    I’m not a P2 fan but wish any young people luck with careers in this environment.  That said, Idol still needs something besides a WGWG even if they move a few units.  The Idol brand is becoming static and predictable and that ain’t good for business. 

  • blackberryharvest

    Phillip and Scotty couldn’t be more different. Its not like “WGWG” is a genre. The “business” could care less about what race and gender the males are. If it was another male country singer who won this last season, then sure, I would agree, but in Jimmy eyes(and hopefully everybody else), Scotty and Phillip are in completely different markets. Its like saying Dave Matthews and George Strait are the same.

  • tigervixxxen

    I love me some WGWG so feel free to blame me lol. But I have supported all of them with my wallet too (except Scotty, just not into country but he does it well). A hit helps, great promo, exposure, etc, it all snowballs. Great press for the coronation song initially (I’m talking finale night) was huge IMO. It’s interesting how perception makes a huge difference. I think they are all talented. It’s phillip’s time to shine and good for him. I enjoy the album, the extra $$ for the Target deluxe is worth it just for Take Me Away.

    The HITS projections are from first day sales so no more label puffery. The variance in the week is nobody can predict how much consumers will hit black Friday.

  • girlygirltoo

    I’m a little leery of the whole HDD disclaimer about how this week has a higher margin of error than usual because it’s Thanksgiving/Black Friday week, But even if we use, say, a 25% difference for the top and bottom numbers, that would still put his first week #s at somewhere between 105-200K, which would be solid to excellent (depending on which end of the scale he fell on). 

    Assuming he does fall in this 140-160K range, here’s where he would fall among first week sales for Idol winners’ debut albums. I don’t have exact numbers for all of them:

    Ruben (Dec. 9, 2003) –     416,569
    Carrie (Nov. 15, 2005) –    314,549
    Taylor (Dec. 12, 2006) –    298,199
    Kelly (April 15, 2003) –      297,000
    David (Nov. 18,  2008)          280K (approx)
    Fantasia (Nov. 23, 2004) – 239,389
    Scotty (Oct. 4, 2011)        197,000 (approx)
     > Phillip (Nov. 19, 2012) 140-160K (predicted)
    Jordin (Nov. 20, 2007) –    119,119
    Kris (Nov. 17, 2009)                80K (approx)
    Lee (Nov. 16, 2010)                 39K (approx)

  • Jaejae1

    I think that is really a good debut.  I would think his peeps have tobe pretty happy with that. And the Idol machine as well.  They need to continue to have commercially viable winners. 

  • Dusting Divas

    How about let’s post Idol contestants debut numbers since the winners do not prove to be the biggest sellers. 

  • bmms

    Tay Tay is not from this earth.  Lol.  No doubt she will bling bling to another week of super selling numbers.  One Direction will be history before they are no longer wet behind the ears. 

  • Christopher Auyeung

    Totally agree. David’s actually did really well though. Kris didn’t even include No Boundaries on his album… freaking Kara Dioguardi.

  • MellyPer1692

    Yayayayay Phillip!!!!

    His music is SO NOT MY THING, but he seems so chill and I wish him much success!!

  • bmms

    Since S7.  All “my” WGWG with guitars I either like or love except for one.  P2 I super LOVE.  Lee… :(

  • MellyPer1692

    I thought Kelly would be doing better just because of the $5.00 sale at Amazon for her CD, but that’s a good start.

  • OffLeash

    Wow. I didn’t remember Kris numbers were so low, I mean for those days of course, because Idol was still pwning the ratings. It was truly the turning point, the beginning of the end. . 

  • jpfan2

    Wow so much better than I had expected. I had him lowballed at 60-80K. I think the low profile of his fan base led me to underestimate him yet again.

  • girlygirltoo

    well if we do that, Phillip will drop farther down the chart

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    David did pretty well with his coronation song, which was far from being
    bad IMO, and got the same Olympics promo and popular success.

    Pretty well? David did REMARKABLE considering that hunk of cheese they hung around *his* neck. That song was no way, no how, in David’s wheelhouse the way P2′s song is in his. In fact, Cook’s band mates and fellow artists’ were practically snickering over the fact he had to sing it and one even lampooned him on stage one night, singing it to him. Just think what he could’ve done with a song that actually was written to fit him and to fit current radio, instead of one chosen by “the fans” — some of whom were fans of the other guy — via a songwriting contest.

    Just pointing out that *finally* Idol doesn’t knee cap their winner out of the gate and look what happened! Double platinum and a song charting on multiple charts! Was that brain surgery, figuring that one out?! I don’t think so. Idol could’ve been doing this for years. Why they didn’t? I don’t know.

  • tigervixxxen

    Because idol was supposed to sell with little else than name brand hype and nostalgia, and it did for years. At least Interscope figured out they needed to put some actual effort into things

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    Whoever was responsible, whether Interscope, alone, or Interscope and Idol, I got to say it certainly was nothing more than doing due diligence. That is, by definition, “the care that a reasonable person exercises to avoid harm to other persons or their property.”

  • OffLeash

    Are we really getting another projection Friday? I thought HDD was done for the week because of Thanksgiving.

  • OffLeash

    I’d love to get my hands on HDD projection stats for Black Friday week, and see how they compare to the actual sales. 

  • http://twitter.com/Miztig Miz

    Grats to Phillip. They certainly have seemed to be promoting him well.

  • girlygirltoo

    Here’s link to last year’s Black Friday week HDD projections (wow at the increase for Scotty’s album – I’d forgotten that, lol):

    http://aistats.blogspot.com/2011_11_01_archive.html

    And here is an EW article giving some of the actual sales totals:

    http://music-mix.ew.com/2011/11/30/michael-buble-nickelback-rihanna-billboard-sales/

    So Michael Buble sold around 9K more than HDD predicted, Nickelback sold a about 2K more than predicted, Rihanna and Drake sold basically the same as what was predicted, Mary J. Blige sold nearly 9K less than predicted, and Justin Bieber and Adele both sold about 2K more than predicted. 

    As for the Idols on Black Friday 2011, Daughtry and Scotty both sold 1-2K less than what HDD predicted.

  • OffLeash

    Thanks! I’m surprised at how accurate it actually was. The numbers predicted for P2 should hold then, if we account for the small margin of error, somewhere between 135-165k. Not bad at all. :)

  • Nedsdag

    As one who wasn’t a fan of Phillip Phillips during his time on AI (I called him Pee Pee), I’m here to eat some serious humble pie. I predicted he wouldn’t succeed in a world of singer/songwriters, but I was completely wrong. It helped that he lucked into a great coronation song (hell, even I downloaded it). It was so ubiquitous, that it was heard all over. In fact, you are STILL hearing it as background music for the Extreme Makeover Home Edition special.

    The song “Gone Gone Gone” is pretty good. I hope it works out for him. It’s too bad about his father’s pawn shop though.

  • maymay

    Grammy Awards Projection by Paul Grein from HDD

    Record of the Year
    Phillip Phillips`“Home” and “We Are Young” by .fun. featuring Janelle Monae are also strong contenders, though some panelists may dock them for sounding a bit too much like Mumford & Sons and Queen, respectively.
    Song of the Year
    Other candidates include “Take Care” (which Drake co-wrote with Anthony Palman, Noah Shebib and James Smith), “Home” (which Greg Holden and Drew Pearson co-wrote)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6KBNBAY3M4742SQMHUMAV6CVGQ Mike

    Don’t know where to post this…but just watched some of the video on You Tube from the Hard Rock NYC last night.  It is so good…the crowd seemed to really love him and he seemed really happy to be doing his ‘own’ stuff.  He seems to get really jazzed during Home when the crowd joins in…that has to be surreal..can’t imagine it ever gets old.  Can’t wait to see him some day live.

  • Emmuzka

    It looks like it was a great choice to ride with “home” to the album release and not try to introduce a second single. 

    Personally I still believe that Home was a fluke and the album’s further sales development, next radio hits and further career are still in a very shaky ground.  But the album sales were good and no-one can take that away from him. 

  • idolstruck

    yay! so happy for Phillip!!! i only hope the best for him and more amazing music and best selling albums!

  • Larc

    If P2 comes in within the HDD prediction, he will be #14 among all Idol finalists for first week sales of a debut album.  Archie is at #15 with 182,927 and Jordin is currently #16 with 119,119.  The top seller is Clay with 612,859 and the lowest seller is Charles Grigsby (S2 #10) with only 100 of his self-named EP.

  • girlygirltoo

    yup — through S8 the runners-up and even a few of the contestants who finished lower than that put up some very good opening week #s for their debut albums.

  • TheOther

    The music industry is very different today compared to when Clay Aiken won, 9 years ago.  Its even changed a lot since Archie.  Season 11 also faced heavy competition with an on slaught of TV singing competitions.

    The benchmark is how Phillip will do in his AAA genre; not how his sales compare to other Idols – especially those were in very different genres.

  • http://twitter.com/TheNewBossIsPP elvanmcm

    You are comparing oranges to apples.  Some of these numbers are “first week” sales as opposed to “first day” sales.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=683757018 Ellen Carey Rowe

    “Assuming he does fall in this 140-160K range, here’s where he would fall among first week sales for Idol winners’ debut albums. I don’t have exact numbers for all of them:

    Ruben (Dec. 9, 2003) –     416,569
    Carrie (Nov. 15, 2005) –    314,549
    Taylor (Dec. 12, 2006) –    298,199
    Kelly (April 15, 2003) –      297,000
    David (Nov. 18,  2008)          280K (approx)
    Fantasia (Nov. 23, 2004) – 239,389
    Scotty (Oct. 4, 2011)        197,000 (approx)
     > Phillip (Nov. 19, 2012) 140-160K (predicted)
    Jordin (Nov. 20, 2007) –    119,119
    Kris (Nov. 17, 2009)                80K (approx)
    Lee (Nov. 16, 2010)                 39K (approx)”

    This is wrong in one respect.  Phillip’s 140-160k sales is his first day sales not his first week sales.  In the 2 days since the album dropped he has sold 278k and he’s had the highest opening days sales of any Idol.

  • OffLeash

    The 140-160k figure is the sales projection for the whole week, not the first day sales numbers. HDD looks at the first day sales numbers (which they don’t publish,) and from those numbers, they predict the overall sales for the whole week. It’s the projected sales for the week that they publish. HDD has been surprisingly accurate for the most part for years. This is the only week there might be more variation because of Black Friday, but even then, they end up pretty close to the actual sales.

  • girlygirltoo

    Nope, Phillip’s projected numbers are for first WEEK sales. HDD does not publish one-day sales figures. Where are you getting 278K? Are you confusing the album with the first WEEK (not day) sales totals for “Home” when it was released in May?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anne-Greco/100002991364628 Anne Greco

    Scotty also got it right his debut album was #1 on billboard 200 & billboard country chart.  It went platinum 4 months after release and has now sold around 1, 200,000 copies.

  • LeahKittyS

    Yes, but Scotty is strictly country. I was thinking more of the broader, soft rock style that David, Kris, Lee, and now Phillip fit into. Maybe I threw people off a little by mentioning Scotty, I just thought Phillip has a little bit of him in there, too.

  • girlygirltoo

    No, I am not. The HDD projection for Phillip of 140-160K  is for first WEEK sales — NOT for first day sales

  • iani

    I know I’m late with my thoughts about the album, but I would like to say some words about it, as I did in the past for other idols also. I think this would be a right thread to do it.

    I like Phillip’s album, I think it is a good one and I like also the production. Even though I’m not crazy about sax and trombone-sounds in general, I think they fit pretty well with the rhythms and moods of the songs.  I still like more his “the only writer” songs than the rest with collaborations: “Hold On” is a good anthemic song, “Man on the Moon” a rhythmic one without being cheesy, “Wanted Is Love”-the bluesy-jazzy sound in the chorus is pretty haunting;  “A Fool’s Dance”  has a more dark, strange one, it would be good for a contemporary routine on SYTYCD. I’m pretty pleased with what I hear so far, he has a manly style  for such a young age,
    with pretty good lyrics and straight actions, the melodies have enough
    depth, pleasant sounds in a up-to-date way, maybe not in a commercial
    one but enough to keep you paying attention to his music, extending  a fan-base, participating without getting bored or getting a cheesy doze of lame, a pretty balanced music in a pleasant way, JMO.

    The next group of songs is the fun one, more commercial, great for live shows: GGG, Get Up Get Down, Drive Me, Where We Came From, Can’t Go Wrong, So Easy. I can’t like/warm to “Tell Me a Story”, it’s not a bad song, it is a one that makes me tired with the melody-sound-production combination; listening to the whole album to see how it is, I wanted that song to be over after a minute. The songs that are so-so for me, nothing extraordinary in, are WWCF and SE. As for the next single: maybe between GGG and CGW, even WWCF and SE as single-contenders because they are pretty; I don’t think the songs with “sax” in would fit for radio formats right now, but I may be wrong. I really hope his music to go further and be heard beyond his AI fan-circle and that “Home” has done a good job and has had a good contribution to pave his career so far.

  • ADRIANAARG1980

    OHHH YEAHHHH !!!!!!  With 54% in, looks like #WorldSideMoon by @Phillips will debut BB#2! http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi …