Phillip Phillips Album Title, Release Date and Cover! (Phillip Confirms!)

ETA: Production credits via The Hollywood Reporter

The album was recorded at Quad Studios in New York City and produced by Gregg Wattenberg (Train, O.A.R.) with Phillips writing or co-writing the majority of the songs. The track list will include his platinum-certified current hit single “Home.”

Making sure to keep the recording process close to home, the Leesburg, Georgia-bred 22-year-old enlisted his brother-in-law Ben Neil, who appeared with him on Idol last season, to play guitar on a few tracks.

Gregg Wattenberg has also written songs with David Cook, James Durbin and Chris Daughtry (It’s Not Over). He is a co-owner of Wind-up Records, the label that signed James During in 2011.

ETA: Nigel Lythgoe tweets, “Lunchtime in OKC. We heard a couple of great kids this morning. We’re now listening to Phillip Phillips album tracks. Love “Can’t Go Wrong.””

ETA: Phillip Phillips confirms the album title, release date and cover via twitter! “Hey guys, this my official album cover/title! Hope you like it and my album will be released 11-19! http://t.co/zaPgunDl”

ETA: Is this the cover for Phillip’s new album? It was found on the Target site.

Over on Amazon, there’s a listing for a Phillip Phillip’s album called The World From The Side Of The Moon with a release date of November 19. There is no album artwork yet.

Check it out here:

Phillip recently tweeted that he would be releasing his debut album, “most likely” by the end of November. And if this release date holds, it will be just ahead of Black Friday.

Press Release:

Santa Monica, CA, October 15, 2012- American Idol Season 11 winner Phillip Phillips will release his much anticipated debut album The World From The Side Of The Moon (19 Entertainment/Interscope Records) on November 19th.   The set, which will include his current hit single “Home,” is available for pre-order  now.  A deluxe version featuring three additional tracks can also be pre-ordered.

Recorded at Quad Studios in New York City The World From The Side Of The Moon was produced by Gregg Wattenberg (Train, O.A.R.) with Phillips writing or co-writing the majority of the album. The Leesburg, Georgia-bred songwriter enlisted his brother-in-law Ben Neil to play guitar on a few tracks.

The same day that Phillip Phillips claimed his victory in American Idol’s season 11 finale, the 22-year-old singer/guitarist released “Home,” a debut single that showcases his rich, raspy vocals and masterful guitar skills— and marked the biggest opening sales week for an Idol winner’s coronation song with 278,000 downloads sold.  The track has since gone double platinum and was used as the soundtrack for the 2012 US Olympics Women’s Gymnastics team as they made their London debut.

Phillips first began making music when he was 14, thanks largely to his older sister’s boyfriend (and now husband), Ben Neil, who taught him how to play guitar.  Phillips kept on studying guitar on his own (“mostly by playing along to the karaoke machine”) and soon found himself mastering riffs from classic-rock tracks like Deep Purple’s “Smoke on the Water” and Ozzy Osbourne’s “Crazy Train.” Several years later, Phillips formed an acoustic band with his sister and brother-in-law and added singing to his repertoire.  After graduating high school, Phillips began studying industrial systems technology at Albany Technical College in Georgia and continued playing music with his brother-in-law. With encouragement from his family and friends, Phillips took a break from working in his family’s pawn shop and auditioned for American Idol in summer 2011—and soon found himself tearing through powerful, full-throated performances of songs by artists like Creedence Clearwater Revival, Otis Redding, and Wilson Pickett on the Idol stage.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QPQ3BY4QAQ2WBIG3EP4JBX2LHY SamC

    guess it wasn’t named “songs” like he wanted

  • DB987

    “The World From The Side Of The Moon”

    What does that even mean?

  • http://twitter.com/doesmonaknow DoesMonaKnow

    That was about as likely as the January release date.

  • http://twitter.com/tle2000 Taylor

    Tough competition on Nov. 19.  Phillip vs Kelly Clarkson vs Rihanna for #1 on Black Friday week!!

    Here are sales projections from the record labels (source: Pulse)

    Rihanna 225k
    Phillip Phillips 150k
    Kid Rock 150k
    Led Zeppelin Live 100k
    Pitbull 80k
    AC/DC Live 75k
    Keyshia Cole 75k
    Coldplay Live 75k
    Kelly Clarkson 50k

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    Even Phillip Phillips is a prettier name than this one. Couldn’t get any worse.

  • blackberryharvest

    I think 150K would be a great number for Phillip.

  • jpfan2

    I think 150K for P2 is wishful thinking.  I expect more in the neighborhood of 50K or so. These days a big hit single doesn’t mean people will buy an album. I don’t see P2 with the kind of big fanbase that is pre-ordering as we speak. ;)

    The title could be poetic or pretentious. It depends on the music!

  • OffLeash

    I don’t think Interscope is after a #1 spot or they’d have released at a different time. They want the Black Friday sales. Smart, smart boys! 

  • TheOther

    It’s a cool name.  Will get people curious.  4 of the winners were self titled.  And compared that to: Thankful, Soulful, Free Yourself, Some Hearts, Live It Up, Clear As Day.

  • OffLeash

    I don’t expect 150k either. Half that would be great for the first week.

  • too-cool-for-school

    That’s a long title, haha. But I’m looking forward to hearing how it turned out!

    150k is stretching it I think unless they get a second single out and it catches on right away. I’m thinking 90-100k first week but I of course would be happy if it were more, and I’m sure sales will continue through the holidays. I hope Jimmy and Co. have a good plan set for it.

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    Sounds a bit pretentious, I guess they target hipster market. I hope that PP does well.

  • TheOther

    I would assume Interscope is basing that projection on something and not just throwing out a random number.  

    They would also have info on Phillilp’s Idol fan base – that obviously none us are privvy too. 
     

  • justmefornow

    If they were smart, they’d put “My HOME is The World From The Side Of The Moon” on the cover, lol.
    No casual non-Idol fan of the song “Home” is going to make any connection to this album with that title, IMO.

  • elliegrll

    I wouldn’t discount Phillip selling 150K during his first week.  AI fans aren’t as supportive as they used to be, but Scotty showed that a popular contestant can still put up big numbers.  Phillip isn’t popular among those who post on message boards, but he does seem to have a large fanbase.

  • OffLeash

    From what I understand, those projections are from a Pulse poster, not Interscope, Billboard or other.

  • http://twitter.com/doesmonaknow DoesMonaKnow

    I remember the projections that Katy Perry’s Teenage Dream would open with 700K…the actual number was 192K, just a little off. So after that I took leaked label projections with a grain of salt.

  • http://twitter.com/BrandonIsOnTwtr Brandon Mitchell?

     This title gets people curious and is very poetic, I like it.  I think we will see his next single be something like “the side of the moon” then, the album title would make sense.  But, don’t discount p2 selling 150,000+ especially if his next singles is as successful as Home

  • mickivick

    I suspect they will promote the hell of it – like they did w/ Home!

  • angiedb

    It could be named This Is My First album for all I care. It doesn’t much matter to me what anyone names their albums. I am super excited! It will be out just in time for my birthday. Yay! Even if he sells one copy (the one I buy, ha ha) I will be proud of Phil. 

  • durbesque

    “The World from the Backside of the Moon” would not only make sense (the half sphere that we don’t see), but it would be more provocative.  My imagination goes wild with the artwork.  Better leave it as it is.

  • Incipit

    “The World From The Side Of The Moon”What does that even mean?

    DB987, considering the first thing I thought of with TWFTSOTM was DCTR’s 2008 “Life On the Moon”, about the Idol Experience (Heh) – I’m gonna go with Either – dealing w/American Idol and the Industry is like being on the Moon, an alien environment where it’s hard to breathe – OR – winning Idol and making an album is completely ‘out of this world’. Maybe a bit of both? In any case, ‘home’ is far away.

    Works for me, until Phillip says differently.

    But that acronym needs help. *snerk*

    Also. No surprise Interscope made Black Friday – 

    IMO.

  • http://twitter.com/saiq2004 adriana

     love your comment :)

  • Chris

    It means they are scraping the bottom for unused names. Its like trying to create a new E-mail or Twitter account. If he wanted “moon” in the title, this is all that was left.

  • http://twitter.com/PhillipPhever SLY ?Phillip Phever?

    I think the title is beautiful and I can’t wait to hear his album!! I think the songs will be poetic and abstract so they can have different meanings for different people. Phillip will do amazing!! :) He’s the only American Idol that I have ever bought music from. 

  • Nedsdag

    You forgot Simon Cowell’s posse: One Direction and Susan Boyle also will have albums competing with the above artists as well.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I don’t think that those projections are from the record labels. I think that they are guesstimates from a long time member at Pulse.

  • elliegrll

    It will take the second single a while to saturate the public, so the debut sales will be due to Phillip’s AI popularity, and maybe the success of Home.  That’s pretty much how it is for most Idol alums, the debut numbers are all about how big someone’s AI fanbase is.  Phillip’s one advantage is that he has a popular song on the radio.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    That was a joke, right?

  • http://twitter.com/blkeener Brittany Keener

    Exactly.

    You can’t predict record sales off single sales. Carly Rae had the 2nd? most downloaded song of the year and could barely push 50k…while having 2 very well played singles, plus “the biebs” promoting her. 

    In PPs case, Black Friday sales will most definitely help push that number up. 

    He’s not gonna get a #1 and will have to fight for a top 10 position, I think. Christmas albums fight hard this time of year and there are a ton of albums being released in coming weeks that could stay out on top easily. 

  • girlygirltoo

    That’s not Interscope’s projections.

  • girlygirltoo

    Phillip better be ready to get the “what does your album title mean” from every interviewer he talks to.

  • girlygirltoo

    Scotty didn’t have any real competition onhis release date, though.

  • DB987

     Not to dog on Pia because I like her but they pridicted 150k for her album and I guess  you could say they were off by 150k.(at least so far)

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Who is “they” and where did “they” predict this?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Don’t worry. I’m sure that Interscope will slap a big sticker on the CD with “including the hit “HOME” on it. lol

  • getaway1

    Phillip better be ready to get the “what does your album title mean” from every interviewer he talks to.

    Well, it’s a good thing to have the media attention, interest.  He would not get it if it was just self titled. 

    My first impression:  it’s a great title for a love song.  And hopefully that’s the direction they take to follow-up with Home.

    Week of Black Fri is a good thing.  Having a hit song climbing on the radio is good thing.

  • DB987

    Pulse when they were on idol tour and she was just releasing This Time.

  • halo9125

    The World From The Dark Side (or Far Side) of the Moon would have been  infinitely better- but what do I know?

    Good luck to P squared :-)

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Here are sales projections from the record labels (source: Pulse)”

    Yesterday, you posted the same list in another thread and when asked about source of the numbers you wrote this:

    IDK, the numbers are from some Diamond member at Pulse who has posted
    these album estimates for a while. Often times the estimates are way
    over the actual sales numbers. The estimates are rarely under the actual
    numbers, but it does happen every now and then.

    http://www.mjsbigblog.com/phillip-phillips-says-his-album-will-be-out-by-the-end-of-november-most-likely.htm#comment-679508979

    So what makes you now think that the numbers are from the labels?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Oh, so that estimate was from a poster at Pulse and not an official source. As you said, it wouldn’t have made much sense for the label to publicly estimate sales of Pia’s debut CD at such an early stage.

  • http://twitter.com/doesmonaknow DoesMonaKnow

    If it’s the same source from Pulse that I’m thinking of, he/she has claimed to have a job (or a contact with someone) in the music industry and that the estimations come from internal emails. That could be a BS story but those Pulse album projections have always been presented as something more than just guesses from a random member.

  • DB987

    Yes that was my point that the pulse predictions are based on nothing tangible.

  • tigervixxxen

    I’ve been following that person’s posts from Pulse all year. Every indication I have is it’s legit. They get release dates before the public and I recall have been dead on with many Idol releases this year. Do a search for “new release schedule” on that site.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bug-Menot/100003601718986 Bug Menot

    Not “THIS side of the moon”?

  • OffLeash

    Somebody’s reading the news for inspiration ;)
    The date of the article matches too lol.
    http://www.foxnews.com/science/2012/09/24/nasa-considering-deep-space-outpost-on-far-side-moon/

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Thanks. This is the link to the post on Pulse.

    http://pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=gmn&thread=103067&page=10#4034376

    Here are some sales estimates for CDs from Pulse and what the CDs actually sold their debut week (in parentheses). Except for a couple of estimates, the others are off by a lot.

    October 2

    Jackie Evancho 125k (41,488)
    Cody Simpson 75k (15,010)
    Miguel 70k (70,872)
    Cher Lloyd 62k (30,876)
    Three Days Grace 60k (48,326)
    Papa Roach 50k (22,372)
    Earth Wind Fire 50k (to be released on Oct. 23)
    Heart 30k (16,253)

    http://pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=gmn&thread=103067&page=9#3945751

    September 25

    Green Day TBD (138,686)
    Mumford & Sons 150k (599,915)
    No Doubt 150k (114,911)
    Lupe Fiasco 150k (88,862)
    Diana Krall 80k (released Oct. 2, 45,933)
    As I Lay Dying 55k (28,251)
    India Arie 40k (no release date found)
    Olly Murs 40k (to be released on Dec. 4, 2012)
    Nelly Furtado 35k
    (released Sept. 18, 2012, 5,731)

    http://pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=gmn&thread=103067&page=9#3945732

  • OffLeash

    Wow! I probably couldn’t do any worse than that. If those really are insiders projections, they’re completely out of the loop.

  • Happyhexer

    Phillip is an enigma.  I wouldn’t want to predict how he might do, either in his first week or over the long haul.  I do think, with the right kind of songs for P2, he might surprise people and do better than many expect.

    Phil wasn’t one of my favorites on Idol, and I don’t consider myself a fan.  But when Phil sings something in his wheelhouse, he’s really got something going on.  So I will check out his CD, and if I like it, I’ll buy it.  But I definitely won’t preorder it.  (I rarely if ever do that anyway.)  

  • OffLeash

    I’m a fan, but I want to hear snippets first because I have no idea what direction his album took. I love Home and M&S, but since I’m not sure what P2 means by his style, I’m not sure I’ll like it either. I guess that makes me a bad fan. Hopefully for P2 I’m the exception and his other fans will buy it no matter what. :)

  • SaSa8

    After winning Idol, P2 has had some good fortune.  He was lucky that the Olympics picked his song Home and launched it even higher than it was doing at that time.  While the album title is not easy to remember (or understand really), fortunately his name is easy to remember.  I’m sure his luck will continue and he will do pretty well on Black Friday.  Now just waiting to see what the album cover looks like and how quick they get some news out about it.  

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “I’ve been following that person’s posts from Pulse all year. Every indication I have is it’s legit.”

    If those sales estimates are legit, then the labels are pretty bad at estimating sales and must have been disappointed with almost every artist’s sales (at least on the 2 lists that I posted). I couldn’t find any projections of Idol releases this year, but on the 2 lists that I posted, almost all of the projections are way off.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I know. If these projections are legit, I’m curious about how the labels are arriving at these numbers?

  • Happyhexer

    That’s what I meant about Phillip being an “enigma” — wrapped in a black hole at that.  I don’t think anyone will really know for sure Phillip’s musical direction until his CD drops.

    Not a bad fan, just a cautious one.

  • girlygirltoo

    Maybe the poster is getting inside info about the release dates …but then is adding his or her own guesses in terms of the sales figures?

    Honestly, if someone working at a label started leaking information about what the label expected in terms of sales, they would be fired on the spot. So I have my doubts that anything other than the projected release dates comes from someone with any inside knowledge. Especially given the fact that this person’s estimates have been way off more often than not in the past.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I guess that P2 hasn’t finished recording the vocals for his CD yet, so they may not have a final tracklist. Perhaps, this is holding up a formal press release? There’s no mention of the album on P2’s website, but people can pre-order from Amazon? Odd.

  • OffLeash

    Who knows if Amazon even got the title right. Haven’t they made mistakes like that before? Sounds vaguely familiar.

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    apparently it´s correct.
    P2 just twitted: “Good night world… see you when the moon gets tired”

    so… that´s gonna be the name of his album.

  • getaway1

    The story has made the rounds today and TPTB has not corrected it.  Phil’s been getting bombarded with tweets.

    And he just tweeted:  Goodnight world…see you when the moon gets tired

    Don’t think it’s a coincidence.

  • OffLeash

    What he said reminds me of “Goodnight moon.” Time for beddy-bye then. :)

  • http://twitter.com/J_SanchezFans J SanchezFan Kaylo™

    Does this mean Jessica’s album will be released 1 week or 2 Weeks after Phillips album?

  • OffLeash

    I didn’t see her name among the December and January releases, but that doesn’t mean much either.

    http://www.pauseandplay.com/december2012.htm

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    No. Let’s face it. It’s an ugly name. The ugliest from all idols, and even non-idols. The good news is that titles hardly (or never) affect sales. 

  • http://twitter.com/J_SanchezFans J SanchezFan Kaylo™

     hopefully interscope can release some sort of info for both of them.. Peope need to know.

  • sdmama

    I just remembered that Pink Floyd had an album called “Dark Side of the Moon”. It is backside that we cannot see from earth. This one is “the side”. Makes me wonder, “Which side??”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Fuzzywuzzy: I did post those numbers and dates from Pulse a couple of days ago, but never claimed they were from the labels or any type of insider information. The post from earlier today is from another “Taylor”. That twitter account is NOT mine!

    Those numbers were simply something that were interesting to look at and see how close they are to the real totals in the next couple of months. I do not believe, in any way, that they come from anyone at any record label!

  • tigervixxxen

    Just because a projection isn’t met doesn’t mean it was bogus, nobody is claiming the poster has a crystal ball. Look, I get that everything that is read on the Internet must be taken with a grain of salt, including here. My point is that poster/source/information is not a new discovery. The posters at Pulse seem to think the information has validity and have contined to allow it as a reference and point of discussion. At the end of the day it’s just a possible consideration of what the industry is expecting, which is interesting to consider.

    Btw it had Tresapassing at 100k, TYC at 40k and Blown Away at 300k.

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    btw, people say P2 has not many fans, but yesterday at 2:30pm his album was ranked #19525 and now 4:00am is ranked #74 in music overall. He also was the best ranked with home a time ago, and was the best pre-order ranked for his EP in wallmart (which album was horrible made with more awful song choices).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ACXMFJNL4VFQDTXRZRJ2QZGTFU Kelly

    It means you’re too dumb to understand poetry. And no, I am not being pretentious.

  • TackyZacky

    Hmmm…. no wonder there hasn’t been any kind of “peep” about an album release for Jessica lately.

    Come to think of it, the sudden silence in reference to Jessica’s album release just about coincided with the surprising news that P2’s album is being released this year after all instead of next year.

    I guess it makes sense that Interscope would focus on promoting the winner’s album first.

  • Karen C

    Sounds like it could be moody and introspective to me…..

  • Karen C

    a metaphor about the Idol Experience (Heh) – I’m gonna go with Either – dealing w/American Idol and the Industry is like being on the Moon, an alien environment where it’s hard to breathe – OR – winning Idol and making an album is completely ‘out of this world’. Maybe a bit of both? In any case, ‘home’ feels far away on Earth, if it’s being viewed from the side of the Moon. Metaphorically.

    LOL, of course we will have to wait and see if it is used in a song the same way, but I wonder if it’s going to be a similar imagery,  the moon being on AI.  

    I can see that the rise to fame must be so quick that it feels like that to them.

  • Karen C

    I think at least with Home, he is fortunate that this is a sound that is popular right now.  I heard some of Mumford and Son’s album, and it does sound like a similar type of sound, and it is doing well.  It seems that there is more alternative music in the charts than there was even a year or two ago, so the timing might work in his favor.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Oh, OK, sorry! I didn’t think that there could be duplicate screen names on WordPress.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I don’t think that you are a “bad fan” at all for wanting to hear P2’s album before you buy it. Why should anyone buy music that they don’t like? That doesn’t make any sense to me. It’s not like he’s a real life friend or relative that you want to support (which would be the only circumstances under which I would buy music that I don’t like). From what P2 has said, he wants to reach people with his music and I doubt that people buying his music even if they didn’t like it would make him happy (although it would make Interscope happy! lol ).

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Btw it had Tresapassing at 100k, TYC at 40k and Blown Away at 300k.”

    The actual sales for these CDs were: Trespassing, 77,000, Thank You Camelia, 16,000 and Blown Away, 267,000. The pattern is that, except for rare exceptions, the projections are always substantially higher than the actual sales.

    You wrote earlier:

    “I’ve been following that person’s posts from Pulse all year. Every
    indication I have is it’s legit. They get release dates before the
    public and I recall have been dead on with many Idol releases this year. ”

    At least the projections for Trespassing and Blown Away aren’t off by >100% like the projections that I posted earlier. Still, projections for TYC  were off by 150%. I guess that you and I have different definitions of “dead on”.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    lol

  • http://twitter.com/BuranaBurana Carmina Burana

    Now… that’s what I call a hastily put together record.  Considering that he started working on it much later that any other idol winner because of his surgery and recovery, I’d say he spent half as much time as his other peers.  Sounds like they baked this with very little input from him, wondering how many writing credits he’ll get in it.  So much for “they want to give me as much time as needed to make the album my own…” I am just glad PP stopped making his grievances public on twitter.  That’s how it works, Philip.  Come November, you sell this baby whether if “feels” like yours or not, then you have a shot at a second album to call your own.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “That’s how it works, Philip.  Come November, you sell this baby whether
    if “feels” like yours or not, then you have a shot at a second album to
    call your own.”

    Yes, this is the deal for Idol winners. Whether they like it or not, they are in a category distinct from new artists who have not come from singing competition shows.

  • OffLeash

    Idol fans have traditionally supported their special snowflake’s debut album, whether they liked it or not that much. I think even this tradition is dying. Too many talent shows, people can’t really afford to support all their special snowflakes. And with too many talent shows and contestants, I think people get less strongly attached to those alums and move on faster and faster. 

  • OffLeash

    That’s how it works, Philip.  Come November, you sell this baby whether if “feels” like yours or not, then you have a shot at a second album to call your own.

    Aaahhhh… The infamous sophomore album Idol alums claim their own but doesn’t sell anymore… ;)

  • chessguy99

    Looks like Interscope is trying to grab the money and run.

  • OffLeash

    They’re just being smart. They learned their lesson with Pia and Haley lol.

  • getaway1

    LOL, when it was thought that the CD wouldn’t be released until early next year, the cry was that Interscope was trying to get rid of Phillip.

    Now that he has gotten the coveted spot for Black Fri release, Interscope is trying to grab the money and run.

    How about this: This timeline is no different than all other Idol winners. The World From The Side Of The Moon could be a song that Phillip wrote. It could be the song that he said was his favorite.

    Rewind to the timeframe right after the finale. He did not have the surgery right away. He was in LA all that time.

  • OffLeash

    Frankly I was worried when P2 mentioned January, and I still remember the rants on that thread here at MJs with almost everybody saying it was a terrible idea to miss the Xmas sales, while others were saying it was Jimmy’s way of teaching P2 a lesson and getting rid of him lmao.

    I’m thrilled they managed to make the Black Friday sales deadline. I was suggesting an EP at the time if they didn’t have time for a full album, but a full album’s just fine. ;)

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Yes, that has been the “tradition” in the past, but it can also give a very misleading perception of the “actual” support for the Idol alum’s music vs. support for them as a reality show contestant (as we’ve seen from the drastic sophomore album slumps recently). It’s a strange situation specific to reality singing show alums.

    ETA: chessguy99 wrote:

    “Looks like Interscope is trying to grab the money and run.”

    It’s hard to blame them, especially since waiting even a few months can impact sales very negatively. Still, the Idol alums are benefiting a lot, so they are still in a better position to succeed than new artists who did not have the advantage of being seen by 15-20 million people twice a week for months.

    ETA2: getaway1 wrote:

    “How about this: This timeline is no different than all other Idol winners.”

    Absolutely true. I don’t see the treatment of P2 as any different from any other AI winner. Just adhering to the same pattern since the second season of Idol.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    My first thought was PINK FLOYD!

  • OffLeash

    Oh I agree. I believe Idol fans inflating sales and spamming polls and radio stations is what lead to the situation Idol alums are in today with radio refusing to have anything to do with them. 

  • mmb

    kinda cool title.  Not surprised by the November/Black Friday release. That is a very crowded release date (per usual) — Rihanna, Kelly’s Greatest Hits, Nicki’s re-release, Pitbull, Coldplay’s live album, One Republic, Outasight to name just a few…but I bet that works to P2s advantage…big name releases bring people to the stores/online and when they buy one they may buy others

  • Listening

    My first thought was David Cook’s  Live on the Moon, No joke.

  • wkstrack

    Yes, um Pink Floyd? LOL Interesting title. Maybe he got more input than people think? Does everyone really believe that Interscope wanted that long title for his album debut?! Anyways, Interscope was always going to release it during the holiday shopping season. Who knows how P2 is going to do by then? Like other posters in this thread said, he has fans just not a big organized fan base like the other WGWGs/males from Idol have.  It seems he has more casual fans/fans of Home.  Also, if there is any battle or butting heads with Jimmy/label than this time around we sure aren’t hearing anything about it publicly. It looks like that P2 got a good talking too and a course in PR 101 (along with his S/O who has also been rather not talking about Phillip or getting into his business like before).

  • getaway1

    Like other posters in this thread said, he has fans just not a big organized fan base like the other WGWGs/males from Idol have.

    Not according to the following:

    btw, people say P2 has not many fans, but yesterday at 2:30pm his album was ranked #19525 and now 4:00am is ranked #74 in music overall. He also was the best ranked with home a time ago, and was the best pre-order ranked for his EP in wallmart (which album was horrible made with more awful song choices).

  • Pippygirl

    Absolutely true. I don’t see the treatment of P2 as any different from
    any other AI winner. Just adhering to the same pattern since the second
    season of Idol.

    Phillip is the only one who has claimed he is different than other winners. As far as I can see he is being treated exactly the same, except he got a good song for his Idol single. At least that puts him in a strong position for sales of his debut.

  • getaway1

    Also, if there is any battle or butting heads with Jimmy/label than this time around we sure aren’t hearing anything about it publicly. It looks like that P2 got a good talking too and a course in PR 101 (along with his S/O who has also been rather not talking about Phillip or getting into his business like before).

    None of that was ever substantiated beyond Idol gossip.

  • http://twitter.com/ToyangSmyth Toyang Smyth

    i love your comment i want to be your priend!! :)

  • http://twitter.com/ToyangSmyth Toyang Smyth

    SAME HERE PHELLA! the only American idol i ever voted and bought music from! LOVE HIMMM!!!! :))

  • http://twitter.com/ToyangSmyth Toyang Smyth

    I DON’T CARE I WOULD STILL BUY PHILLIP PHILLIPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT for the record,  I LOVE THE TITLE!!!!!!!!! <3

  • OffLeash

    To be fair, afaik, Amazon sales are a drop in the bucket, or at least they were in the past. I don’t think it’s changed, although I think they’re trying harder to compete with iTunes.

  • wkstrack

    I did say he has fans just not the typical BIG, passionate, vocal fans like the other WGWGs/males from Idol. I’ve seen a few of them on twitter. I just don’t think he shares the same kind of fan base like Adam or Cook. Which may be a good thing because that maybe means P2 has a wide range of fans.

  • jpfan2

    Agree that Amazon sales are a pittance. A dedicated Idol fanbase can usually get an Idol in the top 10 (at least for a while) with probably only a couple thousand orders or so.

    I think P2 is the  new artist Idols are supposed to be. He has a hit single but is really unfamiliar to the general audience. Idol should get him good promo but without a new single to promote, I don’t see very big first week sales.

    My hope is that he actually has solid material and people buy his stuff cuz it’s…good.

  • OffLeash

    I agree, P2’s fanbase is nothing like Cook’s or Adam’s when it comes to online presence. I think it’s a very good thing personally. With P2, what you see as far as sales and stats is what you get. Label and radio expectations will be more in line with what P2’s actual numbers are.

  • http://twitter.com/doesmonaknow DoesMonaKnow

    The Amazon MP3 store can have big sellers, specifically the $3.99 or 99 cent album deals which can move tens or even hundreds of thousands of units (in Lady Gaga’s infamous case). But ranking in the 70s in Amazon’s physical albums, well, it’s better than being 10,000 or whatever, but that’s not a huge or even medium amount of sales. People who haven’t really paid attention to the patterns of how the different online outlets sell wouldn’t necessarily know that sort of thing.

  • OffLeash

    If P2’s fanbase followed the typical devoted Idol fanbase pattern, his debut album would be #1 on Amazon already. Another sign that P2’s fanbase is very different from anything we’ve seen so far with popular Idol alums.

  • http://twitter.com/doesmonaknow DoesMonaKnow

    Maybe they’re there but just more mellow like he is? They’ll buy it when they buy it but there’s not in an extreme rush…or, we are seeing his fanbase in action and Home just sold to a lot of casual fans. But P2 EP and Idol compilation have sold some (granted less than last year’s winner, but his sales aren’t nothing) and even like 1 to 2 percent of them pre-ordering should have been enough to send his album way higher on Amazon. It’s an interesting riddle for sure.

  • Tommyo2000

    its a really dumb title … hard to remember, cant figure out what it means …  i guess people will search Phillip Phillips Moon to find …

  • OffLeash

    Good point. I think the Idol compilation is a better reflection of P2’s core fanbase numbers, which is way smaller than your usual Idol winner’s, but also in line with the much lower S11 ratings compared to other seasons.

  • Anny_nanny

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  • Anny_nanny

    Photoshop or reality?

  • OffLeash

    Is that the cover???

  • Anny_nanny

     I don’t know. But I like grey! LOL

  • littleapple

    PP`s EP sells less than Scotty`s.  If s8 and s9 released EP, I don`t think Kris, Adam, and Lee would sell than Scotty.
     
    So far PP`s Compilation has sold over 50k than Scotty`s 42k, and it still sells on iTunes top 600. Also it`sales are better than Kris(16k), Adam(37k), Lee(5k).  After final PP had 11 songs on iTunes top 100, but Scotty seemed only 3 or 4 songs. 

    Considering the lowest ratings, PP does great, and he actually has many fans. If he was on s10 or s8, he could sell more.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I’m not sure if that’s the legit cover, but I like it.

  • OffLeash

    Gray! His t-shirt is gray! Must be the real cover then lol

  • MellyPer1692

    I thought the Pulse person wasn’t associated with a label, but with a major retailer who get release dates for merchandising purposes.

  • wkstrack

    It looks kinda like Kris’s album cover with the guitar. And kinda like Lee. But hey, at least he’s not smiling  LOL

  • OffLeash

    If it’s the real cover, it’s a good thing his name is so conspicuous. It could help with sales.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bug-Menot/100003601718986 Bug Menot

     The sun appears to be pretty bright on the moon.

  • OffLeash
  • Incipit

    It’s officially the legit cover! 

    Geeze. The Fresnel lens use is getting out of control – no one has a face? Like AL’s new single cover from the other day – we’re supposed to be ‘blinded by the light’?

    Heh. He’s got sunspots there on the Moon.

  • Axxxel

    I remember Adam Lambert saying in interviews that the American Idol experience felt surreal… Maybe that is how P2 is feeling also right now. I am not really a fan of P2 but I like the title of his album… intriguing..

  • Kirsten

    Heh. He’s got sunspots there on the Moon.

    This is where my brain says: But there is no atmosphere on the moon so that sunspot should have just burnt out the film/CCD and blinded the photographer.

    For heaven’s sake. Half the reason the guy won was because of his looks. Doesn’t Jimmy get that? Why are they hiding his face? Sunspots don’t get you to forget that somebody sang hideously out of tune.

  • OffLeash

    I suspect Idol has a quantity discount deal with a free lance photoshopper for their covers lol. Typical amateurish Idol cover. Sigh. At least as far as Idol covers go, it’s not too bad. Could’ve been much much worse. 

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    LOL. Dave Matthews Band new album is called Away From The World. Intentional copying or coincidence?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    This seems like an outtake of a photoshoot, an accidental shot that they liked. I like the concept, but the photo itself doesn’t look very professional. And, yeah, it’s good that P2’s name is very prominent. lol

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    that can not be the official cover!! they were working with atelier which is a very high fashion company, they cant release this as a cover…

  • fuzzywuzzy

    ” they were working with atelier which is a very high fashion company”

    Really? That certainly doesn’t fit with P2’s image of liking to dress extremely casually.

  • OffLeash

    It sure doesn’t look very professional. Maybe the “amateur” feel is very chic these days with “very high fashion” companies lol.

  • wordnerdarchie

     When I saw the shot I was sure I’d seen it somewhere before, so I think you could be right about it being from a prior photoshoot.  Could still be the cover, though.

  • http://twitter.com/sheilag11 sheila g.

    Is that cover for real? I could even do that. get a “stolen shot” pic of P2 then put a light/lens effect then its good to go. How cheap can they get lol

  • fantoo1

    Hmm not sure how I feel about that sun glare.

  • http://twitter.com/blkeener Brittany Keener

    Coming from a photographer….I absolutely LOVE this photo. it’s fantastic. But…for a debut photo cover, I would think his face needs to be a bit more clear for people to recognize him. His name isn’t as well known as his face might be…though I image there will be a HUGE “Home” sticker on it that will help distinguish him 

  • Kirsten

    When I saw the shot I was sure I’d seen it somewhere before, so I think
    you could be right about it being from a prior photoshoot.

    Idol albums are such rushed affairs that is not uncommon for the album cover first used for pre-orders to be a placeholder.

    The first priority tends to be getting the music recorded. While the tracks are being selected and the production done, the photoshoot can be done (you can’t wait forever though, but you might have a better idea fr the vibe of the album).

    So, it would not surprise me if they used a shot from a previous shoot and the real album cover is still to be released.

    Fundamentally, I think it is an okay cover. It’s not going to get people saying “Hey, that’s a cool cover. What is it about”. But it’s also not going to bet people buying decoy items so that the only person who sees them buying an album with a cover like that is the clerk.

  • Kirsten

     

    .though I image there will be a HUGE “Home” sticker on it that will help distinguish him

    They can stick it on the solar flare.

  • Anny_nanny

    I like that even on the cover Phillip remains Phillip. It corresponds to the style, which I expect from him and I don’t care what it was before.
    And I love spoiled by the non-professional photos – YES!

    P.S. I’m not ashamed.

  • sdmama

    Wow, tough crowd ;) I like the cover. He is a natural kind of guy, the cover should not have him heavily air brushed, wearing tailored jacket with a tie. It’s so Phillip. It is a bit artistic with the light, and does not look like something his friend just snapped with his phone.

    But I agree that his face could be more clearly shown. Girls think he is cute, let them have a CD cover they can look at and smile. What happened to the picture of him walking on a street with a guitar? That also was a nice photo.

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    I think I need sun glasses. 

  • girlygirltoo

    I guess the photo is supposed to be moody/introspective? Can’t even see his face, really

  • tucker davis

    I am torn about this cover. I understand that he wants to be known for the music, but heck…when you’ve got a face like his, don’t hide it! If this is the front, maybe the back has one of those ‘purty’ pictures of him on it! You gotta wonder whose idea this was…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S3ZGXZCUE2YYOS7QV6QSTKM4SA buffynut2001

    But it’s his debut album, right off the show and he has a lot of buzz with this single. Why shouldn’t we expect 150K?

  • OffLeash

    Idol covers have always been an endless source of harmless fun among Idol fans. It isn’t just this one. And this one is still much better than some others I can think of… ;)

  • OffLeash

    Yep, P2 has a killer face, they should take advantage of it. Oh well.

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    but do you really think that Jimmy who said many times that “he is a good looking guy” will pass the opportunity to explote his face on the cover??? That shirt is grey as he like it, but No WAY this is gonna be the official cover. 

  • durbesque

    The sunflare will make people look away quickly.  Unless they cover it with the ‘Home’ sticker.  Are they going to blow this cover like other theys blew Kris’ cover? a tiny head in a sea of bush.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    IMO, P2 is kind of average, “nice” looking, not particularly outstandingly handsome or sexy. In that sense, I don’t think that it’s such a requirement for them to exploit his looks on the CD cover.

  • OffLeash

    Maybe it’s like someone said and it’s just a placeholder until the real cover is ready. 

  • jpfan2

    It’s okay. He’s cute so why hide his face. It’s not horrible like  some past covers that I think actually hurt sales.

  • p2fan

    P2 is not that handsome but I  like looking at him and so many of his fans.  I just wish the face can be seen more clearly and not fuzzy and hidden by that glare. What is with the glare?  Adam has it in his Trespassing.  Well, anyway, most of his fans are not teens.  And Georgia will back him all the way. They are very loyal and supportive.  So I predict very good sales, maybe not instantly but growing as weeks pass like Home.  It will reach at least Gold while  Home will get to 3x platinum one day.

  • http://twitter.com/cheeseE1 EH

    It’s eye catching, but not in the terrifying way that Adam and Blake’s debut album covers were.  

    I really don’t think that people are so dim that they need a picture of Phillip’s face and a self-titled album to figure it out.  I would look long enough to see the name of the artist who is trying to blind me.  

  • jpfan2

    I think P2 has a pretty young fanbase. And I also doubt that the entire state of Georgia will be buying his album to “support” him.   Other than close friends or relatives I can’t imagine many regular people spend $ to buy music they don’t like.

  • girlygirltoo

    Is Georgia more loyal and supportive than Arkansas, which couldn’t get Kris to gold album status? Depending on your home state is fine in terms of getting votes on Idol — I don’t know if it applies all that much when it comes to actually plunking down $7+ for an album.

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    Georgia has 3 times more people that Arkansas, however,  I have never heard that one is supposed to buy music from everybody who is from their state.  

  • girlygirltoo

    lol, the people in Georgia (and several other states) would go broke very quickly if they had to do that. :)

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    Well, you brought it up. What Kris Allen and Arkansas has to do with Phillip album?

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    hahaha come on man!! at least more people than his family and friends will buy his album… i hope so ha.

  • iluvai

    Awesome album cover!  Whoever does these things, did something very right. I don’t know how sales will be, but this photo is fantastic.

  • irockhard

    Looks like Interscope is trying to grab the money and run.

    LOL well of course because after the holidays there could be no more money left for them to grab, just ask Pia and Haley.

    Important lesson learned there: NEVER WAIT, forget about trying to create a masterpiece, just get your album out quick or it won’t sell.

  • Incipit

    It’s an OK cover, IMO, even with the sunspot. As posters have said, it could have been so much worse. If it turns out to be a placeholder, that’s OK too.

    Between the cover and the title of the album, however, there’s still no real  sense of what sort of music will be inside – and since I have no idea what Phillip’s own music sounds like, or how he will blend with Iovine’s ideas, or his writers/co-writers, I won’t anticipate anything. Well, maybe a little M&S vibe. Heh.

    There are too many disparate indicators, with that TAXI solicitation of “fresh,” “uplifting,” and “radio-friendly” songs,  “nothing moody or introspective.”

    And then Phillip adds “I like moody songs that have meaning….makes you think.” 

    But he comes across as a very literal person – what you see is what you get – grey tee shirts and all. Nothing in his song choices has led me to believe that he would be comfortable with metaphor – illustrated by the complete misunderstanding of Iovine’s comment about not standing still, made during 80’s week  – that prompted the Facebook apology. And that’s fine, there are songwriters who are very literal.

    But then we get a title which appears to be working a metaphor for the Idol Experience, (“Life on the Moon”) and even if it isn’t cannot be taken literally – there’s some symbolism occurring there. I have to think – is that from a writer/co-writer’s lyric, or an A&R guy, or what? Interested to hear the answer to the origins of the album title.

    Meanwhile, it doesn’t seem to get any clearer – and “Home” doesn’t help – since Phillip told everyone this wasn’t the style of song he would write…and that’s the only example we have.

    But I expect some tracks in that M&S style – I have no idea what else will be put on the album. I know it won’t be off-key – studio toys will take care of that. So when Phillip is finally singing whatever it is he prefers to sing, and no longer covering songs that I like/love/know very well etc. and stomping the melody right out of them, I would probably be more kindly disposed to giving his music a listen.

    IMO. Of Course.

  • irockhard

    Tough competition on Nov. 19.  Phillip vs Kelly Clarkson vs Rihanna for #1 on Black Friday week!!

    Here are sales projections from the record labels (source: Pulse)

    Rihanna 225k
    Phillip Phillips 150k
    Kid Rock 150k
    Led Zeppelin Live 100k
    Pitbull 80k
    AC/DC Live 75k
    Keyshia Cole 75k
    Coldplay Live 75k
    Kelly Clarkson 50k

    It’s always tough competition on Black Friday week (and will Rihanna please go away already!).

    I think 150k is possible but is probably on the high end of the range of what he’s likely to sell. Let’s start him off with Lauren Alaina’s Wildflower or Adam Lambert’s Trespassing opening numbers: 60-77k. I think that’s the very least the label can work with. As long as it’s no less and they keep him busy touring with big names he’ll be able to reach the sales target for TWFTSOTM within a year of it’s release and score at least one more album, even without another hit single.

  • springboard2

    The album well sell well if people like it. It will make the difference between just selling to the core fanbase and reaching a more casual audience.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Here are some sales estimates for CDs from the same poster at Pulse and what the CDs actually sold their debut week (in parentheses). Except for a couple of estimates, the others are off by a lot. If those are really estimates from the labels, then almost all of those releases have disappointing sales, some very disappointing.

    October 2

    Jackie Evancho 125k (41,488)
    Cody Simpson 75k (15,010)
    Miguel 70k (70,872)
    Cher Lloyd 62k (30,876)
    Three Days Grace 60k (48,326)
    Papa Roach 50k (22,372)
    Earth Wind Fire 50k (to be released on Oct. 23)
    Heart 30k (16,253)

    http://pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=gmn&thread=103067&page=9#3945751

    September 25

    Green Day TBD (138,686)
    Mumford & Sons 150k (599,915)
    No Doubt 150k (114,911)
    Lupe Fiasco 150k (88,862)
    Diana Krall 80k (released Oct. 2, 45,933)
    As I Lay Dying 55k (28,251)
    India Arie 40k (no release date found)
    Olly Murs 40k (to be released on Dec. 4, 2012)
    Nelly Furtado 35k (released Sept. 18, 2012, 5,731)

    http://pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=gmn&thread=103067&page=9#3945732
     

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Here are some sales estimates for CDs from the same poster at Pulse and what the CDs actually sold their debut week (in parentheses). Except for a couple of estimates, the others are off by a lot. If those are really estimates from the labels, then almost all of those releases have disappointing sales, some very disappointing.

    October 2

    Jackie Evancho 125k (41,488)
    Cody Simpson 75k (15,010)
    Miguel 70k (70,872)
    Cher Lloyd 62k (30,876)
    Three Days Grace 60k (48,326)
    Papa Roach 50k (22,372)
    Earth Wind Fire 50k (to be released on Oct. 23)
    Heart 30k (16,253)

    http://pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=gmn&thread=103067&page=9#3945751

    September 25

    Green Day TBD (138,686)
    Mumford & Sons 150k (599,915)
    No Doubt 150k (114,911)
    Lupe Fiasco 150k (88,862)
    Diana Krall 80k (released Oct. 2, 45,933)
    As I Lay Dying 55k (28,251)
    India Arie 40k (no release date found)
    Olly Murs 40k (to be released on Dec. 4, 2012)
    Nelly Furtado 35k (released Sept. 18, 2012, 5,731)

    http://pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=gmn&thread=103067&page=9#3945732
     

  • revcat

    I call it the Instagram glare; photos tweaked by a certain app have this burst of light which can be effective if subtle and in a nature shot. In people shots, not so much. IMO of course. Don’t see the point in a light burst obscuring the artist’s face, after all their face is part of their brand. Both Adam & P2 have album art with this fake glare, guess it’s the latest thing with no real rhyme or reason. A fad, like swallowing goldfish :) oh well, the show will go on. Or maybe the light is a metaphor for being a star, name in lights, the flash of photography, dazzling music, etc. I dunno, but hope both guys are around for a long, long time.

  • revcat

    I think P2 is very good looking, not in a flashy or striking way, but his face is very symmetrical. He looks like the guy next door, the one you grow up having a crush on. For those of you old enough to remember Steve McQueen, P2 reminds me of him. Funny I never appreciated Steve’s good looks, but think P2 is cute. Now that I’m old, all young people look cute to me :) but in this case most young people agree.

  • jpfan2

    Great update on CHR today for Home:

    28 25 PHILLIP PHILLIPS
    Home 2631 2211 420 17.235
    + 105 spins
    + 107 bullet
    + 0.978 audience

     As long as Home keeps getting great updates, P2 won’t get another single which in a way is a shame.I guess we’ll see a big sticker advertising Home on the album cover!

  • standtotheright

    The album will sell well if people like it. It will make the difference between just selling to the core fanbase and reaching a more casual audience.

    The album will sell well if it has more singles that radio PDs will play (which is not the same thing as saying “if it has potentially good singles” because AI bias means that the latter is an insufficient condition for the former). That is what makes the difference between selling to the core fanbase and reaching a more casual audience.

    The fact that people know Home means that they are more likely to stream TWFTSOTM (um, in the future, I’m just going with “…Moon”) than other AI albums that didn’t have big singles on the radio, and therefore are somewhat more likely to make an active decision about the product as a whole. But formal reviews and word of mouth (both of which have been pretty good for any number of AI alumni albums that didn’t set the world on fire) don’t really mean that much without consistent radio play.

  • springboard2

    Phillip ‘s album will sell more than an album that doesn’t have a hit single, but it will sell more or less well depending on whether people like it or not.
    Artists need singles, but hit singles don’t mean successful albums.
     

  • getaway1

    Mon morning.  A lot of the music media have now picked up on this story based soley on the Amazon listing.  MTV did a nice recap of some of Phil’s more recent interviews and mentioned his teaser twit from Sat.

    The more curiosity the better.  And that’s what Interscope probably intended as they complete the CD.
     
     

  • standtotheright

    You’re missing my point.  Most holiday music purchasers do not spend a considered amount of time streaming albums, weighing options, and then deciding to spend their money on the albums they liked best. They remember the single, see a performance on TV, and maybe read a review or two, and then decide, “Hey, it’s on sale, I’ll go for it.”

    Some people will buy it and decide they don’t like it (this is true for both AI alumni and other artists with high profiles). Some people won’t buy it even if they might have liked it because they didn’t hear enough from it to go beyond buying the single.

    It’s simple awareness of the product that drives sales, not every individual listener hearing first, liking second, and buying third. As streaming becomes more ingrained as a listening habit, that may change, but I don’t think most casual music fans are there yet.

  • http://twitter.com/saiq2004 adriana

    Phillip Phillips
    ?@Phillips

    Hey guys, this my official album cover/title! Hope you like it and my album will be released 11-19! pic.twitter.com/zaPgunDl

     

  • girlygirltoo

    Phillip just tweeted that this picture is, indeed, the album cover and that the album will be out on 11/19

    https://twitter.com/Phillips/status/257879366116192257/photo/1

  • http://twitter.com/Loretta31 Loretta

    I am so anxious to hear P2’s cd.  I have it pre-ordered and I am looking forward to it like a kid in the candy store.

    Home is amazing and everyone I know loves it.  Maybe all of Phil’s songs won’t be like Home but I loved almost everything Phillip did on Idol.  I still play Beggin almost daily.

    I am hearing Home several times a day on the radio.  YEAH!

    I am so happy for P2!!

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    well… mystery done!! now wait 4 the big promo, because it´s gonna be a big promo isn´t it???

    He has new gigs to do this months, you think he will be performing a new official song??

  • http://twitter.com/happylittlefish Amy Beth

    For holiday releases (timing of albums, not necessarily content), aren’t a hefty portion of them for OTHER people. 

    Whether the purchaser likes the artist and his/her music wouldn’t be the key to sales, it would be name recognition.

  • koshka

    who the heck picks there covers? LOL. For these idols coming off the show, some facial recognition coupled with their name would sure be nice. 

    This photo = no end cap presence. 

  • windmills

    Well I like P2’s album cover. The title is weird to me but stuff like cover art and titles don’t usually stick with me beyond the initial OMG! or WTF? or Meh. 

    I’m interested in how the album sounds and how much it wound up being built around Home. 

  • gatorgirl5028

    The cover looks alot like the cover art for Lee’s song “Sweet Serendipity”

  • usedtobelucy

    Re: the cover. PHilPhil (and the other guys) are just lucky they don’t have boobs for Photoshop to manipulate into some crazy image that I’m coming to regard as reality-show-woman-chest, a la Pia, Melanie Amaro and some others. lol

  • Chris

    I gotta go back to Kindergarten. That cover looks like the sun, not the moon.

  • IrisandLilies

    I like the cover a lot, although I agree with an earlier poster that there is something of a disconnect between the title of the album and a picture of the sun. 

    As much as I think Phillip is a good-looking guy, he sometimes comes across as a little bit dorky-looking in posed pictures (see, e.g., his cover for Home).  He looks his best when he is unaware of the camera, such as, for example, when he is lost in the music. 

  • irockhard

    The album was recorded at Quad Studios in New York City and produced by Gregg Wattenberg (Train, O.A.R.)

    He’s also one of the owners of Wind-up Records, James’ label.

    with Phillips writing or co-writing the majority of the songs.

    So PP actually got quite a bit of creative control, more so than RCA would’ve given him at least.

    I’ve had complaints about Interscope but overall Interscope >>>>>> than RCA.

  • jpfan2

    From headlines thread:

    Nigel Lythgoe @dizzyfeetLunchtime in OKC. We heard a couple of great kids this morning. We’re now listening to Phillip Phillips album tracks. Love “Can’t Go Wrong.”

  • Anny_nanny

    Nigel Lythgoe@dizzyfeet
    Lunchtime in OKC. We heard a couple of great kids this morning. We’re now listening to Phillip Phillips album tracks. Love “Can’t Go Wrong.”
    https://twitter.com/dizzyfeet/status/257913779986259968

  • http://twitter.com/saiq2004 adriana

     DELUXE VERSION WITH 3 MORE TRACKS, GREAT!!!!

    Ben Neil
    ?@thebenneil

    @pphillipsfc take it from me, you WANT the deluxe version!!! :)) lol. Im excited about it, If you cant tell.

  • standtotheright
    with Phillips writing or co-writing the majority of the songs.

    So PP actually got quite a bit of creative control, more so than RCA would’ve given him at least.

    Why do you say that? In the Weiss era at RCA, the prior winners and runners-up who wanted to cowrite subsequently wrote or cowrote “the majority of their songs.”

    I like some of Wattenberg’s cowrites, but as a producer he puts a gloss on most of his tracks, even the rock ones. I’m not sure how well that plays with what P2 claimed he wanted to do.

  • Incipit

    The album was recorded at Quad Studios in New York City and produced by Gregg Wattenberg (Train, O.A.R.)
    ~~~~~~

    He’s also one of the owners of Wind-up Records, James’ label.

    Well, there’s a familiar name – Greg Wattenberg and Johnny Rzeznick wrote with DavidC on “Declaration” for DCTR in 2008, and the three of them, plus Ryan Star wrote “Right Here With You” for This Loud Morning.

    Of course, it doesn’t say that Greg did any co-writing this time around – and even if he did, that songs written for/with Phillip would sound like anything he wrote with DC – (Pay no attention to the TAXI ad behind the curtain. *snerk*) – but there are videos and pics of his studio overlooking Times Square in NYC, if you want to see what he and the location look like – Here’s a Sneak Peek vlog from 2010, where DC introduces Greg right in the beginning. It’s only 1:03 long.

    The Look out the Window shot of TS – perhaps that’s one of the views of The Earth from the Side of the Moon that Phillip encountered ?? Heh.

  • standtotheright

    For holiday releases (timing of albums, not necessarily content), aren’t a hefty portion of them for OTHER people.

    Absolutely. CDs-as-gifts are very common. And those sales don’t sustain without radio play, either.

  • wordnerdarchie

    Gregg Wattenberg is also a co-writer on J Durbin’s song “Screaming”, along with D Cook, R Starr, B Alt & J Durbin.

  • OffLeash

    Uh-Oh! I love James’ debut album, but Screaming is one of the rare tracks I don’t like at all. 

  • IrisandLilies

    I can’t say that I’m especially thrilled with the choice of producer for Phillip, given the artists that Greg Wattenberg has worked with before.  I don’t like the music of either Chris Daughtry or David Cook and was unimpressed with the song Wattenberg co-wrote with James Durbin, et al.  Train is okay, but their sound is a little to poppy to suit Phillip.  Too bad Steve Lillywhite waited so long to express an interest in producing Phillip’s album.  He would have been a much better fit.

  • OffLeash

    ITA. It’s such a shame Lillywhite didn’t make his move earlier. Gah! Nevertheless, until we hear the tracks, I prefer to stay cautiously optimistic. 

  • mjsbigblog

    Reminder:

    No thread jacking please. Keep this post focused on Phillip. Thanks.

  • irockhard

    True but IMO that’s one of the weakest songs on MOABD, his kiddie fans love that one though. But it’s way better live (as is the case with every other song of his), especially when he performs it with his megaphone.

  • irockhard

    Well it wouldn’t be the first time a less than ideal producer is selected to produce an Idol’s debut album.

  • irockhard

    I won’t be surprised if said studio gloss is per Jimmy’s request in order to soften PP a bit to give him a more commercial sound.

  • Incipit

    From his list of production credits, Wattenberg has worked with some very disparate artists – he also produced Jason Castro’s album in 2010 – any list that has Back Street Boys and Five For Fighting 2X on it hints at versatility – (not to mention, Chantal Kreviazuk.) I don’t think he fits in a pigeonhole. IMO.

    I have heard more of his work than I have the hypothetical of Lillywhite; tough to say he’s not a good choice when we have heard nothing from Phillip’s album as yet. Also, if Iovine wants gloss – any producer he hired would be complying. Not gonna ding Wattenberg for that. 

    Although, if Nigel likes a song from it, maybe you ‘could’ be worried. *snerk*

  • angiedb

    So excited! I love all the updates and I can hardly wait to hear the entire album. It’s funny that so many are so critical of the album cover because so few actually buy a CD these days. Sure, it will pop up on your iPod or other mp3 player when a song plays, but so few look at or care about covers anymore. I like the cover and title just fine, but it’s the music within that means the most. Like I said, I’m really excited and I wish Phil great success with this and future albums! 

  • girlygirltoo

    how so? Kris, David Cook and Lee all wrote or co-wrote most of the songs on their debut albums.

  • Incipit

    Sure, it will pop up on your iPod or other mp3 player when a song plays, but so few look at or care about covers anymore

    Not to mention, if someone doesn’t like it, it’s easy to replace the artwork with an image they like better – even add your own font, etc. Hey – Design your own album cover – there’s a thought – something that blends better with the title than the Sun vs the Moon. *chuckle*

    JMO

  • OffLeash

    Just when I was thinking Home might already be double platinum, today’s press release confirmed it. We haven’t had sales numbers corresponding to the last two weeks and he did it! CONGRATS P2! Home keeps kicking butt and taking names! 

  • OffLeash

    Just when I was thinking Home might already be double platinum, today’s press release confirmed it. We haven’t had sales numbers corresponding to the last two weeks and he did it! CONGRATS P2! Home keeps kicking butt and taking names! 

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “The cover looks alot like the cover art for Lee’s song “Sweet Serendipity””

    I really don’t see much similarity:

    http://reflectiveinklings.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Sweet-Serendipity-by-Lee-Dewyze.jpg
     

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I’m surprised that P2’s press release has no quotes from him (with any details about the songs), the producer or anyone at Idol/Interscope. It’s pretty dry.

  • jpfan2

    I had Home going double platinum the first week of October so I was only off by a week or so.  Now let’s see if triple platinum is on the horizon.

  • weareallinnocent

    Whoa, too David Cook-like for me (I’m a fan…) Life on the Moon by Cook and that sun glare obscures the photo just enough to make you (me) do a double take to be sure it’s not David (what with his short, colored hair and all.)

    Not saying it’s intentional, obviously not. Just reading the title, my first thought is Cook, and then looking at the photo made be gasp…

  • Karen C

    Didn’t  Gregg Wattenberg also write and produce Let Me Fall For You with David Cook? 

    Sounds good to me,  I tend to like his songs, and with him producing the album will most likely be more alternative.

  • http://twitter.com/saiq2004 adriana

     myepitaphwillbe

    ?@Myepitaphwillbe

    @Phillips shouldn’t it be “this” side of the moon?

    Phillip Phillips
    ?@Phillips

    @Myepitaphwillbe you’ll understand if u get the album ha

  • http://twitter.com/saiq2004 adriana

     I’M WONDERING, WHAT HE’S GONNA DO WITH HIS DOUBLE PLATINUM PLAQUE? HA

  • Incipit

    Didn’t  Gregg Wattenberg also write and produce Let Me Fall For You with David Cook? 

    No, that was Rune Westberg, with the polished demo for the last minute save – Heh.  – He also worked with Casey Abrams on at least two tracks of his debut album. “Ghost” and “Get Out”.

    I’m ‘really’ growing to like Westberg’s work.

  • lukien

    Gee i think what Phillip means is to look at the world from the moon, thus the glaring sun coz how you can see the moon if you are in moon? Anyway, the album title is clever, the cover is smart and it’s def better than a photoshopped scarecrow.

  • durbesque

    ‘the world’ usually means planet Earth.  But since ‘the side of the moon’ makes no sense, maybe ‘world’ means something else…or nothing.  Is this a clue that the songs make no sense either?

  • springboard2

    I am not a fan of Phillip, I don’t even care for Home, but I like the cover pic and  album title mysterious aspect.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2K6LL4WPUTAY6TKG2VG3SYFA5M Erlinda

    Could it be that Phillip Phillips album title “The World From The Side Of The Moon” (If this is the true title) trying to reach the geographic latitude on Earth in all direction from northern latitude of North America, Europe, Asia, to mid southern latitude of South America, South Pacific, Australia, South Africa?

    Well, I won’t be surprised if that is the case. Home has reached its plateau and his album could very will be. And what could be the best promotional advertising as the science advance its study on the space exploration missions around the moon, the asteroids, and ultimately putting humans on Mars?

    Ahhhh… the wonder of science! Anything is possible and “The World From The Side Of The Moon ” is the perfect fit title of the album…. Love it!

  • springboard2

    Nigel: “Love “Can’t Go Wrong.””. Is it a hint about the next single?

  • springboard2

    Gregg Wattenberg = all variations of pop rock,  from the traditional pop rock sound (Daughtry) to more current one (Train).  This is an attempt to  make Phillip  sound mainstream. No idea what the result will be.. 

  • usedtobelucy

    ” ‘the world’ usually means planet Earth.  But since ‘the side of the
    moon’ makes no sense, maybe ‘world’ means something else…or nothing. 
    Is this a clue that the songs make no sense either?”

    Having taught high school English for a long time, I find that the phrase reminds me way too much of stuff 10th graders write when they don’t read anything but nevertheless fancy themselves poets of true profundity. I’m hoping that I’m just missing something here (and it’s quite possible that I am). I wouldn’t want to raise this kind of question with somebody’s album title, so I’m surprised that Jimmy let this title happen. But I guess album titles don’t matter anyway.

  • TheOther

    I’m hoping that I’m just missing something here (and it’s quite possible that I am). I wouldn’t want to raise this kind of question with somebody’s album title, so I’m surprised that Jimmy let this title happen.

    4 of the winner’s debuts were self titled.  The others were very generic:  Thankful, Soulful, Free Yourself, Some Hearts, Live It Up, Clear As Day.

    Having it self titled or having Home in title would have been very predictable.

    The World From The Side Of The Moon is certainly different and unexpected and more importantly has gotten people buzzing of what it means and hopefully check out the music.  I think Jimmy Iovine knew exactly what he was doing.

    Great timing for Home selling Double Platinum to align with the PR for the new CD.

  • gatorgirl5028

    Yeah I totally get how two pictures of a guy looking down at his guitar with the sun shining has no similarities . . . .

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Conceptually perhaps, but certainly there’s no visual similarity, and since an album cover is all about the image, then there really isn’t any similarity.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    That still doesn’t explain the lack of detail and quotes from P2/others in the official press release announcing the release of P2’s album.

    Compared with Scotty’s press release, it’s very limited.

    http://www.mjsbigblog.com/scotty-mccreerys-debut-album-clear-as-day-to-be-released-october-4.htm

    Scotty’s press release was issued about 2 months before the release of CAD, whereas the PR for Moon is only about a month before.

    ETA: It’s possible that the tracklist hasn’t been confirmed yet, so that would interfere with P2 being able to refer to any specific songs in the PR.

  • gatorgirl5028

    That’s the great thing about opinions; one person sees similarities; another doesn’t.  Just expressing mine . . . not looking to make everyone share it, ya know?

  • TheOther

    They just finished recording the last song, literally last night.  One of the sound engineers tweeted about the post production work that still needs to be completed.  To my acknowledge, Scotty didn’t write any of the songs on the CD.  Phillip’s surgery also set his timeline back.  In addition, he was responsible for promoting the whole tour by himself this summer.  He did a radio with every tour stop.  Scotty had help from others in his season.

  • usedtobelucy

     “4 of the winners’ debuts were self titled.  The others were very
    generic:  Thankful, Soulful, Free Yourself, Some Hearts, Live It Up,
    Clear As Day.

    Having it self titled or having Home in title would have been very predictable.

    The World From The Side Of The Moon is certainly different and
    unexpected and more importantly has gotten people buzzing of what it
    means and hopefully check out the music.  I think Jimmy Iovine knew
    exactly what he was doing.”

    Totally agree about many crappy titles. Also agree that the buzz is good, although I doubt that titles are important enough to create much buzz among anybody but those of us who know and are interested in Phil;s upcoming album already.

    The only place we part ways, I expect, is that I think that it would have been better to get the buzz from a cool, mysterious phrase that didn’t make me — and, I’m gathering, some other people — wonder whether it’s not so much a cool, mysterious phrase as a clumsy one. … I’m sure there are other phrases and titles around that they could have chosen.

  • usedtobelucy

     “That still doesn’t explain the lack of detail and quotes from
    P2/others in the official press release announcing the release of P2’s
    album.

    Compared with Scotty’s press release, it’s very limited.”

    They need a new press-release person, then. The [many] pubs, online and on paper, that take the easy way out of picking up releases and just running with them are way way way way way more likely to do so if the release has quotes in it that make the easy pickup sound like a “real” article. Can’t imagine who’d be doing releases for such a huge company without realizing that.

  • http://twitter.com/saiq2004 adriana

     I DON’T KNOW AND I DON’T CARE, I ONLY WAITING FOR THE MUSIC, ANYWAY I DON’T THINK THAT PP WHETHER AS OTHER IDOL WINNER :)

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “They just finished recording the last song, literally last night.  One
    of the sound engineers tweeted about the post production work that still
    needs to be completed.”

    Oh, OK. That may mean that the producer hasn’t had much to do with P2 yet either. In general, it sounds like they are really hard pressed to get this CD finished by the projected release date. I still think that this wouldn’t have prevented some general quotes from P2, especially since he’s so intent on this album containing songs that will represent the kind of music that defines him. In other instances, someone from the label or Idol has been quoted in press releases, and they wouldn’t be limited by the recording process. It just seemed odd to me, even given the circumstances.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    In other instances, someone from the label or Idol has been quoted in press releases, and they wouldn’t be limited by the recording process. It just seemed odd to me, even given the circumstances.

    Honestly, I think it’s sloppiness more than intent. Back when I wrote press releases, it was standard procedure to invent plausible quotes for the corporate brass, so a certain level of happy-talk in press releases told nothing about what went on behind the scenes — it was included because that’s what the form required.

    That kind of job pays the same as or less than it did 10 years ago (when it’s not farmed out to interns), so a decline in the quality of work was probably inevitable.

    I think the content of P2’s press release tells us less about the label’s commitment to the album than about the work conditions of Interscope’s or 19’s marketing staff.

  • Karen C

    Scotty’s press release was issued about 2 months before the release of CAD, whereas the PR for Moon is only about a month before.

    The difference most likely because P2 got a later start on his album,  and also because he did his own writing.  The songs for Scotty’s album were most likely picked much further in advance.  

  • fuzzywuzzy

    P2 just tweeted that he and his producer are parting ways after 3 weeks in the studio, so it sounds like he’s just completed recording and probably hasn’t heard the final versions of any songs yet (or even knows for sure what songs will be on the CD), so may not have been able to comment on the PR.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F3XJE5GRAUMYR7Y5RYZUW7SC4U md

    I keep imagining Phillip as a lawyer in court representing the moon.

  • Incipit

    Funny, md – And defending counsel for the Moon – Phillip Phillips.

    But then the cover definitely represents a conflict of interests, KWIM? 

    *snerk*

  • Incipit

    P2 just tweeted that he and his producer are parting ways after 3 weeks in the studio

    Wait, What? – As in, the Label let Wattenberg go, and/or Wattenberg left, and the Label will bring in a new producer? At this late date? After they just announced he was the producer?

    Or is this just a misuse of ‘parting ways’??. Geebus. where is his publicist!?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    lol I think that this simply meant that after 3 weeks of recording, P2 and Wattenberg are done with that part of the process and P2 doesn’t expect to be seeing Wattenberg again, as he works on producing the actual tracks for the CD.  Here’s the tweet:

    Phillip Phillips
    The best producer and I part our ways tonight…been a great 3weeks http://instagr.am/p/Q3lljrw-Br/

    https://twitter.com/Phillips/status/258411194694647810

    P2 needs an editor for his tweets. lol

  • jpfan2

             The best producer and I part our ways tonight…been a great 3weeks

    That’s the actual tweet and includes a friendly pic of the two. He just means there done recording the album. 

  • Incipit

    OK. Thank you, fuzzywuzzy. I didn’t see the tweet – don’t follow him – and the context makes all the difference, of course.

    No harm, no foul – But such a loaded phrase as “part ways” ought to be used with more care, iMO.

  • TheOther

    I didn’t see the tweet – don’t follow him – and the context makes all the difference, of course

    But such a loaded phrase as “part ways” ought to be used with more care, iMO.

    Or maybe the interpretation of that should be used with more care, IMO:) Even if someone didn’t follow Phillip, it’s been noted on several occasions on this post alone that they were at the home stretch with the CD.

    Now it’s on to all the live gigs he has scheduled.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Well, with P2, there’s no doubt that it’s pointless to scrutinize his statements for clues contained in tiny distinctions of phrasing. Honestly, I think this is true for all of the Idols and the vast majority of all people interviewed, even the ones with more elegant word choices.

    “Part our ways” is actually a pretty common variant on “part ways” and is even used in the lyrics of a Dave Matthews song, so there’s no grammar emergency, either.

  • http://twitter.com/saiq2004 adriana

    I FIND THIS YESTERDAY:

     Chris Shaw
    ?@cshaw340

    Have to admit that I’m pretty stoked to hear Mike Shipley’s mix of the Phillip @Phillips track I recorded. Love his sounds.
    [Chris Shaw @cshaw340

    Producer, Engineer, Mixer, Facilitator/Obfuscator

    New York]

    AND ABOUT THE TITTLE;
    MTV News
    ?@MTVNews

    Where in the ‘World’ did Phillip @Phillips get his album title? http://ow.ly/ewWnQ

    Phillip Phillips
    ?@Phillips

    @MTVNews YA DONT CARE DO YAAAAAAAAA!!! ;)

    adriana
    ?@saiq2004

    @Phillips @MTVNews BUT YOU NEED ACCEPT THAT WAS FUNNY LMAO

    Phillip Phillips
    ?@Phillips

    @saiq2004 @MTVNews it was funny thats why i put a wink face lol 

    THAT WAS FUNNY ;)

  • Incipit

    That is hardly a loaded phrase 

    Bwahahaha! Good to have your opinion. If one wishes to pretend that posting ‘part ways’ doesn’t have an understood implication in the Idol Bubble, there is little more to be said.

    Considering the list of quotes from this kid that were since ‘re-spoken’, (which I can supply) I felt it prudent to ask fuzzywuzzy if it were simply a misuse of the phrase. 

    And I thanked her for the clarification. So it’s all good, KWIM?

  • angiedb

    I saw the tweet and the picture. My first thought? “Oh, they must be finished with the album now.”  It’s fun to watch all the interpretations, though. lol