Phillip Philip’s “Home” Could Sell 200K This Week (UPDATED WITH SALES NUMBERS)

UPDATED:  Entertainment Weekly has posted exact sales numbers for “Home” from Sunday – Thursday.

A rep at Interscope tells EW that the track sold 105,725 copies on iTunes from Monday through Wednesday — a whopping 1,100 percent increase over the same three-day period the previous week, when it moved 8,814 iTunes units.

All told, it’s shifted approximately 155,000 copies on iTunes from Sunday through Thursday this week,

The numbers are included with an interview with Phillip. On how he feels about the song home he says:

I never said anything bad about the song; I just said it’s not really my style. I’m more into jazz stuff. But it’s an amazing song, and I love it. Each time I play it, I’m getting it more and making it more of me. The more I play it, I have a lot more fun with it, and the band, they’ll change it up. So it’s coming to be a lot more me. It used to be I just kind of went in blind with a song that I didn’t really know, but it’s coming along a lot better now, and I’m enjoying it.

On being heard in the recording process:

You know, it’s mixed feelings. It’s a lot of fun, and it’s also a lot of give and take — for both sides, not just me — the producer and other people as well. I know what my sound is. I’m just trying to get it out there how I can explain it. I’m not trying to write or put out some music that doesn’t represent me. I told people before all this, I’d rather sell 10,000 records that represent me than 2 million that don’t represent me at all. But it’s coming along well, and I’m excited about it. I’m excited to get the music started. And there are a few musicians I want to get out on it I’ve connected with, so I’m excited to get the production down.

What’s awesome about this Olympic exposure for Phillip is that he’s being heard by MILLIONS of people outside of the Idol bubble. Read the rest of the EW interview HERE.

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Phillip Phillip’s coronation single, “Home” is predicted to have a huge sales week in the period ending on August 5, according to Billboard. The big sales are fueled by recent exposure during the women’s Olympic gymnastics coverage on NBC.

“Home’s” Olympic exposure may be over. It was not played during tonight’s  (August 2) all around gymnastics competition. Still, “Home has been sitting at No. 1 on iTunes since Tuesday night (July 31). With the release of the music video tonight, the wave begun by Olympic coverage may continue even without continued coverage.

Check out Billboard’s stats below.  If the predictions come to pass, Phillip could have a much to celebrate next week.

  • Home could sell around 200,000 downloads by Aug. 5, the end of the sales week. In the most recent week (ending July 29), only Flo Rida’s “Whistle,” sold more than with 237,000.
  • In the week ending July 29, it earned a 69% increase in downloads, selling 40,000 for the week (up from 24,000 a week earlier).
  • “Home” reentered the Digital Songs chart at No. 47 and the Billboard Hot 100 at No. 84.
  • If “Home” sells around 200,000 downloads, it could move straight into the top 20 of the Billboard Hot 100.
  • “Home”  debuted and peaked at No. 10 on the Hot 100 in May after Phillip’s Idol win.
  • It debuted with 278,000 downloads and has sold 617,000 to date in the U.S.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    Good. Because I actually really like this song and think it deserves to be a hot seller, no matter who sings it. And that’s not a diss against Phillip, but let’s be clear… it’s the SONG that’s selling, not the performance. Phillip lucked out. 

  • Anonymous

    Geaux Phillip!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Ha, ha…take that X-Factor and The Voice!  Go Phillip!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/nathaniel.cabalona.3 Nathaniel Cabalona

    It’s Phillip Phillips’ not Phillip Phillip’s!
    I hate to be a grammar snob, but it seems unprofessional when you do it in every article.

  • Anonymous

    If the performance/delivery was bad it wouldn’t matter how good the song is, people wouldn’t buy it.  That’s happened before with songs that were flops for some artists, but became hits when they were re-recorded by other singers, who did a better job o interpreting the song.

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    i think the next season will be very good 4 AI, i bet in the auditions will be a lot of p2 doubles and i also believe that ratings will be better. Plus mariah carey will be there.

  • http://twitter.com/mmcrell Michael McRell

    I agree the song is good….but the person performing it has to have the proper delivery for song to connect with an audience…Phillip does that very well.  I think Phillip was a little lucky to get this song….but I think the song was equally lucky to get Phillip.  For me it is the marriage of a great song and a great performer that makes it work…I don’t think either work without the other.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DY5236XYY2SBL7EJNTK5ROIGMA Madred

    Eye knough wut yew meyn. Syriusly. Itz de entyrenet dough bro. 

  • sdmama

    Yes, that’s the song. I agree.
    BUT, if it was recorded by a British artist, NBC would not have picked it for AMERICAN Women’s Gymnastics Team theme song to get the exposure.  If Jimmy didn’t pick it for Phillip and made it his coronation song, I don’t think I would have ever heard it, and NBC would have have considered it in the first place. So, Greg Holden lucked out, too. It goes both ways. 

  • Anonymous

    Yes, let’s be clear.  All one has to do is listen to Greg Holden’s performance of his own song to realize that the bare-bones song is not enough. 

    The warmth, sensitivity, clarity, and love that Phillip showers on this simple folksong is what transforms it into a work of art and a thing of beauty.   

  • Anonymous

    I agree – even though I’m not a huge Phillip fan, it’s definitely both the song itself and Phillip who are selling it.  Phillip did get lucky that he was handed a song that was absolutely perfect for him.  As much as I like the song and am fans of other Idols, I have to admit it would not sound right being sang by any of the other male Idols.  The song is perfect for Phillip’s voice and style, and I think that’s part of what makes it sound so good.

  • Anonymous

    How’s it doing for AirPlay?

  • teacup

     I’m just glad I wasn’t subjected to this tonight on the Olympics. :D

  • http://twitter.com/JonKills Jon Glass

    Wasn’t a Phil fan during the show but good for him! The song reminds me of Mumford and Sons, but it’s good. :)  Congrats PP!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sim-Ai-Khaw/100002537599337 Sim Ai Khaw

    “Home” co write by Greg Holden song writer cum singer buy give support Holden album abit at amazon great album all song compose by Greg Holden himself and Greg Holden ‘s song all are great.

  • Anonymous

    Good. Because I actually really like this song and think it deserves to
    be a hot seller, no matter who sings it. And that’s not a diss against
    Phillip, but let’s be clear… it’s the SONG that’s selling, not the
    performance. Phillip lucked out.

    I don’t agree,  it is a decent song, but not an amazing song. It is good for an Idol coronation song, and a good fit for the Olympics, but that’s it, imo.
    Of course, the song itself plays a large part in its success, but no more no less than any post-idol Idol single. I don’t think that Phillip deserves to be labelled lucky more than any other idol alum who landed a decent song, whether it’s coronation or album singles.

  • Dlynne

    Phillip’s delivery makes the song memorable. It is the perfect marriage of a good song and a great vocal.

  • Mateja Praznik

    Yes, the song is really average. I watched the video earlier. I think this was my second time hearing the song. I listened for the first time right after the finale and I didn’t even pay attention that time. Anyway, I don’t think the song is that good and Phillip’s vocal performance isn’t great either. He can’t sing. 

  • http://twitter.com/bagel08 John S

     

    Anyway, I don’t think the song is that good

    The buying public and iTunes customers would disagree with that :)

    He can’t sing.

    He can sing better than most pop singers out there.

  • http://twitter.com/bagel08 John S

    I remember when people said he would flop harder than Lee…haha looking back, its funny now.

  • Anonymous

    Awesome! It’s a great song but Phillips brought it to life! Congrats.

  • idolstruck

    Phillip and the song is just the perfect combination. I have never doubted Phillip’s capacity to sell. His style of singing coupled with his honest delivery of lyrics are the usual ingredients for a successful career. I’m so happy that Home is doing well and I’m pretty confident that this success will go beyond Home. Go Phililp!!

  • http://twitter.com/facenfield David Facenfield

    not only is this good for P2… it’s good for the song’s writer and it’s especially good for the AI brand

  • Anonymous

    Again, what’s good for Phillip is good for the entire “American Idol” franchise. I’m very happy about “Home”‘s second life!

  • fuzzywuzzy

    P2 seems like a nice guy, so in that sense, I’m glad that he’s having this success with “Home”. I think that much of his success is due to the “Cinderella” aspect of his story and modest background, plus his health problems and that he’s “cute”. That said, I can’t celebrate his success as good for the AI brand or the show, because he’s not a good singer live and showed that week after week. AI is no longer a singing competition, and P2 is no different than Katy, Taylor or Justin in achieving success despite being poor singers (I actually think that P2 is much worse than any of the singers I mentioned). I guess that it’s a sign of the times.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I agree with 2 out of 3. Good for P2 and the songwriter, but not good for the AI brand.

  • stargazed

    It boils down to what is a good singer?  I enjoyed Phil each time he performed on Idol mostly because of his artistry.  He is truly an original to AI.

    Fans still flock to see Bob Dylan and the man can hardly speak, let alone sing.  I saw him last year and he still cracks me up, his voice is horrible, but his message is always worth a listen.  And  his fans love him.

  • http://twitter.com/Hexander Henrik Xander

    Congratulations to Phil and his fans. The success of Home reminds me that a charming and humble personality will go a long way in this business. In the end, Phil’s success will never be detrimental to AI in general.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    lol Just because a singer has fans doesn’t mean that they can sing well live. I just think that since AI is supposed to be a singing competition, that at the very least, the winner should be able to sing live without being pitchy, which is a minimum requirement of a good, live singer (but not all that is required). Plus, P2 reached a new level of awfulness this past season by mangling covers until they were unrecognizable. Also, I’m assuming that everyone who loves P2, also has no issue with any other current singers who are successful despite not being able to sing well live (like Katy, Taylor, Justin, etc.), because P2 is in the same category. No matter how commercially successful P2 becomes, he’s still not good for the AI brand. I now no longer regard AI as a singing competition.

    ETA: As for your comparison to Dylan (who is a legendary composer and musician, if not regarded universally as a great singer), lets wait to see what happens to P2 before mentioning him in the same breath as Dylan. lol

  • Anonymous

    Lol, if that was the case, Kris would be a superstar. So would David Cook. They are both just as charming and humble as Phillip. And egotistical jerks like Kanye West or Chris Brown(for example) would be failures.

    Charming and humble is certainly better than annoying and egotistical. But if the song doesn’t connect with listeners, you could be the most wonderful, charming, humble person in the world and the song still wouldn’t sell. Likewise, if the song does connect with listeners, you could be the biggest egotistical ass in the world, and the song would probably still sell quite well.

  • Anonymous

    I now no longer regard AI as a singing competition.

    This has been said by many others in the past, especially when Kris won and also when Lee won. I think we know that many things go into winning AI, not just singing, so PP not being the best technical singer in the competition is nothing new.
    It’s also true that in the real world it really doesn’t matter that much. Perception is what matters and luckily for him PP is getting a good edit out there. He’s a “singer-songwriter” (even though we have pretty much yet to hear anything he has written) who’s above the commercialism of American Idol.
    Good for him. Now we will see if his luck continues when he puts out his own music.

  • Anonymous

    I still don’t see how Phillip is original. He didn’t do anything that David Cook, Kris, Lee or Crystal (to name just a few) didn’t do before him. The most original contestant Idol has ever had — at least of the contestants that made Top 10, anyway — may actually be Blake Lewis. 

    That said, he has a lot of fans out there, and original or not, he is having a good start to his career. So congrats to him on that.

  • http://twitter.com/doesmonaknow DoesMonaKnow

    It’s definitely better for the franchise if the winner does well, but we’ve seen it before that one hit song does not a career make. Still, the success of “Home” is a promising sign.

  • Anonymous

    I think the song suits Phillip very well and he does a good job performing it. However, I think the song would also suit Lee’s style. He is the closest thing to a folk/alt rocker of any of the Idol winners. And I think Kris or David Cook would have done a fine job with this as well, although it likely would have had a different arrangement if either of them sang it.

    I definitely have to give Phillip a lot of credit for the song’s success, but I think that the song still would have been successful if any of those other winners had been the ones to perform it. Maybe not AS successful, but successful. It’s a good song, and it sounds pretty much like a Mumford & Sons track — and Mumford & Sons are very successful right now, so I would think that’s another reason for its success.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “I still don’t see how Phillip is original. He didn’t do anything that
    David Cook, Kris, Lee or Crystal (to name just a few) didn’t do before
    him.
    The most original contestant Idol has ever had — at least of the
    contestants that made Top 10, anyway — may actually be Blake Lewis. ”

    Actually he did. P2 mangled widely familiar songs until they were unrecognizable. No one else has done that, so in that sense, P2 was “original”. lol

  • Anonymous

    P2’s fun to follow because usually Idols are predicted to be superstars (and it rarely happens) but P2 seems to work in the opposite direction. It’s all gloom and doom but in the end he comes up a big winner.

    I think P2 has the most appealing personality of all the male winners and this should give him a leg up in the industry. I’m not predicting a platinum album but I think he’ll continue to surprise people in a good way. Every male Idol winner has already been dropped from their label (or probably will be) so P2 has to break that mold if possible. Good luck!

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Kris sings well live, and compared to P2, Lee is a great singer. Still, up until Lee and P2, all of the winners (and most of the finalists) could at least sing on key regularly, so in that sense they were good “technical” singers, and met one of the requirements of being regarded as a good singer. As I said, now AI has shown a trend of placing less emphasis on good live singing and is promoting contestants who they think will be commercially successful, despite not being good live singers. It didn’t work with Lee, but it may work with P2. So far, P2 has done well with “Home”, but we’ll have to see what his debut album is like and what kind of songs he composes. I disagree that P2 is “above” the commercialism of AI, but again, we’ll see what his debut album is like.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    In the entertainment field, bad behavior is tolerated proportional to the degree of talent (and/or commercial success). If someone is a “nice person” that’s just a bonus, but what’s most important is creativity, talent and commercial success. If Kanye, Chris Brown, etc. weren’t so talented and commercially successful, their behavior would not be tolerated.

  • Anonymous

    should be able to sing live without being pitchy, which is a minimum requirement of a good, live singer 

    I think your examples of Katy Perry, Dylan, Taylor Swift, and we can add a lot of other names from the history of popular music would show that staying on pitch isn’t a requirement for being a good singer.  People act like what Taylor and Rihanna are doing is new, but it’s not.  There are a whole lot of technically proficient singers, who could never become commercially successful pop singers. I’ve heard some back up singers who have amazing voices, much better than the featured artists, but these back-up singers could never move beyond that position, because they just can’t interpret songs as well as most lead singers.  

    Dylan is a storyteller, so his fans either don’t notice or don’t mind his limited vocal range or the sound of his voice, but that isn’t true for everyone, which is the case for all artists.  I think that’s why saying that Phillip isn’t good for AI, because of his range, doesn’t make sense.  Despite revisionist history, people have been slamming the winners of this show since the beginning.  There are plenty of people who think that Fantasia can’t sing, and plenty more who believe that she’s the best singer from the show.

  • Anonymous

    Probably not, no. Although the entertainment industry has a high tolerance for forgiving, or accepting, bad behavior. But that was my point. Many music buyers aren’t going to care if Phillip is this nice, humble guy. In fact, the majority of People who bought “Home” after hearing it on the Olympics likely have no clue what kind of personality he has. They will buy his music based on whether they like it or not. 

  • Anonymous

     definitely have to give Phillip a lot of credit for the song’s success, but I think that the song still would have been successful if any of those other winners had been the ones to perform it.

    I doubt it.  One of the problems that the AI alums have had is that they have been treated like they actually can sing the phone book, and they’ve been given generic songs that don’t fit their strengths.  Most of them have similar songs on their first cds, what I like to call “American Idol” songs, which is understandable since they use some of the same writers, and the songs are influenced by all of the contestants going through the major life changes that happen after they’ve just finished competing on the show.  They are all individuals, so they will all bring something different to a song, and not all songs will fit all of them.  

    I know that fans like to think that their special snowflake can sing anything, but while the songs may sound nice, they may not work, or do a good job of helping to launch the singer’s career.  

    jpfan said: I think P2 has the most appealing personality of all the male winners and this should give him a leg up in the industry.

    I agree. Phillip rubbed me the wrong way at first, but I do have to admit that he does a better job at handling interviews, and displaying his personality than a lot of the other male winners. Despite have the whole “I’m an artist” attitude that many of the male winners have, in interviews, he hasn’t come off like he’d rather be anywhere else in the world, or like the interviewers are wasting his time, which will help him tremendously.

  • http://twitter.com/mmcrell Michael McRell

    Obviously Phillip is not your cup of tea….that is fine, not one performer ever appeals to the entire population.  But, what you and many others are missing when you discuss how ‘original’ he is or how he is not a ‘good singer’…it is the connection a performer makes with his/her audience in the end that matters more than if you are a technically proficient singer.  There are thousands upon thousands of technically proficient singers out there…but if they don’t connect than it doesn’t matter.  For whatever reason…Phillip has connected with his audience…is it his delivery…his demeanor…that he seems like a good guy…it could be all of those and much more.  So, whatever the reason….and despite all of the critiques about his singing on the blogs….in the end he has a good start & I for one hope that it continues because I enjoy his take on music and his imperfections.  Maybe that’s it…maybe that is why he connects, he is not perfect & we can see ourselves in him?  Because, last time I checked I am not perfect, but a lot of times when people are blogging…me included…act like we are perfect! lol!

  • Anonymous

    Do you? I don’t. I think Kris’ and David Cook’s personalities are definitely more appealing. And Ruben is like this big teddy bear — I think he’s adorable. Taylor seems like a fun guy and Scotty has a very likable personality as well (although I could do with a little less of the “I’m a Christian” thing being pushed at me with him). I found Lee rather arrogant when he was on AI, but since he’s been off the show I have found him to be more likeable. 

    Phillip seems like a basically nice guy, but his comments about his guitar skills as opposed to those of the previous winners’ rubbed me the wrong way. And at times, I thought he has acted like he thought he was too good to be on Idol.

  • Anonymous

    LOL this is his coronation song, most of those sell. We’ll see how his “jazz, funk” album sells ;)

  • fuzzywuzzy

    You are misunderstanding me. As I’ve said before, a minimum requirement of being regarded as a good singer is being able to sing on key. Of course, even good technical singers miss a note once in a while, but to be regarded as a good singer, one minimum requirement is that you sing on key. That said, singing on key does not automatically mean that a person is a good singer. Not at all. There is a lot that goes into a person being a good singer beyond being able to sing on key – phrasing, interpretation, vocal tone, emotional connection, charisma, style, and it goes on. As for P2, his fans evidently have a high tolerance for off key singing (“imperfections”?) and melody mangling, and P2’s other attributes clearly compensate for that. lol

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “There are a whole lot of technically proficient singers, who could never
    become commercially successful pop singers. I’ve heard some back up
    singers who have amazing voices, much better than the featured artists,
    but these back-up singers could never move beyond that position, because
    they just can’t interpret songs as well as most lead singers.  ”

    See my response here:

    http://mjsbigblog.staging.wpengine.com/phillip-philips-home-could-sell-200k-this-week.htm#comment-608785923

  • Anonymous

    I think P2 is also lucky because he doesn’t seem to have a big Idol fanbase with a cute name. That can be a double edged sword. Great for making money but not so great in moving the Idol beyond the show.

    Anyway, at least Home is a hit. Now P2 has put out a decent second single which won’t be easy.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Right. Only the AI nerds are familiar enough with P2’s image from the show and factor that into the success of ‘Home’, but still most of P2’s single sales have come from knowing of him from AI. If “Home” sells a lot from it’s brief exposure on the Olympics broadcast, that bodes well for P2’s ability to reach beyond AI to the general public. The real challenge for P2 next is for his original music/recordings to reach beyond his AI audience and establish him as an new solo artist in the music industry. It’s proven to be a very difficult transition, since very few from AI have achieved this.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Phillip seems like a basically nice guy, but his comments about his
    guitar skills as opposed to those of the previous winners’ rubbed me the
    wrong way. And at times, I thought he has acted like he thought he was
    too good to be on Idol.”

    Also, don’t forget P2 immediately disavowing “Home” as not the kind of music that he wants to produce. lol  I agree that many others from AI definitely have more appealing personalities than P2, especially Ruben, Kris and Cook.

  • Anonymous

    OK, maybe I’m in the minority, but technically singing great or on key means nothing to me.  If I enjoy a singer, I just do. 

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Phillip rubbed me the wrong way at first, but I do have to admit that he does a better job at handling interviews, and displaying his personality than a lot of the other male winners. Despite have the whole “I’m an artist” attitude that many of the male winners have, in interviews, he hasn’t come off like he’d rather be anywhere else in the world, or like the interviewers are wasting his time, which will help him tremendously.

    I’m trying to remember which male winner was such a schlub over interviews, as I didn’t follow some all that closely. Usually, they get remarked upon for their humbleness, except for one seemingly mandatory incident of coming across as too ambitious/arrogant and the annual botched press release in which they’re said to be the first to have X amount of songwriting credit on their debut albums, when it’s no more than the winner before them had.

    P2 must be channeling whatever worked for certain Jimmy Stewart characters, as I just don’t read inarticulateness and naivete as charm, but it’s obviously working for him.

    That said, his singing ability doesn’t worry me. It’s somebody’s job to make sure he records songs that fit his range and abilities. If they’re also good songs that hit a nerve with listeners, he’ll be fine.

  • Anonymous

    All of the AI winners are humble, so that’s not where Phillip is different in comparison to other male winners.  Phillip has shown a confidence in interviews that Kris and Lee lacked.  He seems to know that someone can be humble, but also proud of what they have accomplished.  I think it’s why one reporter said that he comes off like he belongs on this stage, which isn’t a vibe that some reporters got from Kris and Lee.  

    My agreement with jpfan wasn’t about how potential fans would perceive Phillip, even though this  humble confidence will help him attract more people, it’s about how the press, radio PDs, and other people in the industry will respond to his personality.  But, being more outgoing than Lee and Kris will also help him win over new fans.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I3NQHPT3NA6VGKK22RCMTGOCII Tiffany

    I liked the song the first time I heard it. Im not a fan of Phil’s voice but he and the song go together, however, I think the strong drum vibe throughout the song actually makes it.

  • Anonymous

    And Kelly, fuzzy – don’t forget Kelly!  OLOLO

    (ya meant the fellas?)

  • http://twitter.com/facenfield David Facenfield

    disagree completely… think this is terrific for the AI brand… whether he is considered a technically good singer or not, whether you are a fan of him or the song, or not (I’m still on the fence)… having a huge smash hit with his coronation single is hugely significant for the AI brand… in the ‘we find new stars who have big hits’ kinda way… i expect they will emphasise this to the hilt next season…

  • Anonymous

    Home would make a terrific S12 boot song unless it has worn out its welcome by next year.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    lol Of course, but I think that the discussion was limited to male winners of AI.

  • Anonymous

    People have different views as to what constitutes a good singer.  For me, hitting all the right notes and having a great range is not a necessary prerequisite.  In fact, I often find that I don’t enjoy listening to those types of singers because they are so focused on amazing people with their vocal prowess and technique that they lose sight of the lyrics of the song and its message.  I’m of the opinion that some imperfection is needed in singing to convey the emotions of the song.  I can listen to songs from Johnny Cash’s various American albums over and over again, even though he is “off-tune” at times, his voice cracks, and he speaks some of the words, because the songs feel real to me.  I love Phillip for that reason.  He is believeable as a singer, something Jimmy Iovine immediately recognized when Phillip sang on Top 13 guys night.   (BTW, Jimmy worked with John Lennon and Bruce Springsteen as a young sound engineer so that was a huge compliment). 
     
    And IMO, Kris Allen and Lee DeWyze would not have done as good a job as Phillip singing this song.  I was never a fan of either of them during Seasons 8 and 9 because I always felt that they were just singing the words of the song rather than emoting.  And my opinion on this issue has not changed after listening to their original music.  (As an aside, Kris was not being original when he sang his version of Heartless.   He was merely copying The Fray, who had performed an acoustic cover of the song weeks earlier.)    

  • Tess

    a minimum requirement of being regarded as a good singer is being able to sing on key

    Is there a “SET OF RULES” about singing that I am required to adopt in order to personally judge if I think someone is a good singer?  Do these come from the same place that sets up the standards where I judge how someone does as a dancer or an actor or an artist or a sculptor, how about an author.  If I can’t HEAR the “perfect” notes because of my limitations am I no longer able to offer up an opinion on whether  someone’s singing is pleasing to me and keeps me listening.

    I was taught, thankfully, that any kind of art form is between the artist and the person that artist is trying to connect with and the artist comes out “tops” if they can find a way to forge that connection.  Luckily “art forms” in my lifetime have moved away from a perceived perfection into an awareness that “skill” and “technical” proficiency, though a good building block, no longer is the be all and end all.  

    I am glad that I am blissfully unaware of perfection…it allows me to see beyond a pre-conceived notion of what is good or bad and gives me an opportunity to enjoy a whole lot of stuff.  I like the fact that rules can be bent and manipulated and even broken.

  • Anonymous

    I think Phillip is doing well but is HOME really doing better than Cook’s TOML?   Cook came off of AI with a massive amount of good will.   I think Phillip is having good success with is coronation single, especially compared to Lee (who got a U2
     cover…why?) and Kris who got that hot mess from Kara.

    Cook came off very well in interviews, got the SNL gig etc  after AI.    I’m happy for Phillip and I like HOME.   So I will check out his album, but I don’t think he is perceived in a better light in the media than Cook was. 

  • Guest

    Phillip has charisma… the IT factor, the likeability that works to sell the song.
    He is a natural and also a compliment to the show. All successes will be… even Phillip with his perfect coronation song.
    After all, it is the premise of  the show is to find an unknown amateur and propel them to the top… so far so good for this season’s winner.

    And the fact he is going to sell loads of singles this week is Fantastic!

  • Anonymous

    All I know is that I have not connected to any AI winner since Kelly.  Knew he would win since his audition.

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    I don’t think people are “missing” it. Folks totally get that Katy and Rihanna and Dylan are successful for other reasons. It’s just that a lot of people don’t expect that kind of person to win a live singing contest. LOL

    He just wasn’t the greatest contestant IMO. That’s why his win was so disappointing to me personally. I watch this as a gameshow, and I want to see people who display some form of excellence nearly every week make it to the top. Phillip showed up, barely tried (and didn’t seem to even care, or even like some of the people who were trying to help him) all the way through while multiple others (who did seem to care) were wowing me every week, so much so I couldn’t even pick a favorite because so many of them were so good. Then in the last few weeks he FINALLY starts coming up to the same level as everyone else and wins the whole thing. What made it worse is that is seems like it was all a foregone conclusion, that all those wow performances never really mattered anyway because Phillip was going to win even if he came out and made a poop on the stage. Heh. So there you go.

    That said, that was the contest and it’s over. This is the real world. In the real world, Phillip is talented, sounds good recorded, has charisma and camera ready looks IMO. Jimmy gave him a song that puts him right where his particular attributes shine bright. I think he really could make something of himself if he can write, so I will root for him to do that. I root for everyone after the show as long as they are not a tool, and Phillip seems like a genuinely good guy.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Yes, but as I said, AI had changed from being a singing competition to finding a commercially viable recording artist, regardless of the ability of that artist to sing well live. That was emphasized this year when P2 was told directly on a live broadcast that “hitting the notes” didn’t matter. lol

    Still, unless P2 (or Scotty) can establish themselves beyond the show (which will be shown by the reception to their sophomore albums), they will simply be added to the growing list of AI male winners/finalists who have not been able transition to a mainstream level of success with the general music listening public beyond AI, and this will not be beneficial for the show. It remains to be seen if this will happen with P2, and the increase in sales of “Home” in response to its exposure on the Olympics is a good sign of the song (and perhaps P2) connecting with the non-AI public, but the same could have been said for Cook’s TOML, which achieved great sales and radioplay success, yet did very little to promote Cook’s own music. TOML may have misrepresented Cook as an artist and caused problems with more widespread popularity of his own music, and P2 could face the same problem since he has disavowed “Home” as representative of the kind of music that he would like to produce. It will be interesting to see what happens.

  • http://www.etsy.com/shop/AdorablyHooked Gwen

    Now that’s pretty awesome, and people must particularly like his version of this song because I’ve also heard Elliott Yamin’s “Free” during this Olympic broadcast.  This song must be hitting home.

  • halo9125

    Whether you like/dislike the song, or like/dislike P squared- he’s now been more than decently marketed outside the Idol bubble. Now, rather than being known as the kid who won Idol, he’ll be known as the kid whose song was played at the Olympics. Not so bad for somebody who “can’t sing” ;)

  • Anonymous

    By the way, unlike Seasons 8 through 10, I didn’t follow AI at all this year until the finale.  The only reason I found out about Phillip was because I happened to catch a segment on an entertainment news show about the AI finale.  The segment showed a snippet of Phillip singing Volcano.  It caught my attention immediately.  Because I had loved the little bit I saw, I checked out Phillip’s other performances on the internet and became a huge fan.  For me, he combined what I had loved best about Adam Lambert, Crystal Bowersox and Casey Abrams. 

  • Anonymous

    Yes, let’s be clear. All one has to do is listen to Greg Holden’s performance of his own song to realize that the bare-bones song is not enough.

    Heh, I think P2 did a good job with this song and I agree it wouldn’t have been chosen for the Olympics without his performance, but I prefer Holden’s version.

    As for appeal, eh.  He’s charming when he’s self-deprecating, but as I’ve said a million times, I like my winners articulate and thoughtful and I don’t think he even gets the bronze if those are the scoring criteria. #seewhutididthar

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Is there a “SET OF RULES” about singing that I am required to adopt in
    order to personally judge if I think someone is a good singer?  Do these
    come from the same place that sets up the standards where I judge how
    someone does as a dancer or an actor or an artist or a sculptor, how
    about an author.  If I can’t HEAR the “perfect” notes because of my
    limitations am I no longer able to offer up an opinion on whether
     someone’s singing is pleasing to me and keeps me listening.”

    Two different things. Obviously, for you (and many others) personal enjoyment of a singer does not always overlap with the minimum requirement of a good singer needing to sing on key. People should listen to whatever music they enjoy, but objectively, a person cannot be regarded as a good singer if they sing off key (no matter how many people enjoy that singer). So if you can’t detect that someone sings off key and enjoy that person, that’s cool, but it doesn’t make that person a good singer. Same way with the other art forms. Personal enjoyment (and often popularity) of a dancer or visual artist is often separate from their technical ability. Now that AI has moved far beyond being a singing competition, that opens up the possilbities for many sub-par singers to go far on the show and even win.

    Also, although singing on key is a minimum requirement of being considered a good singer, just singing on key sure doesn’t make someone a good singer, since there are so many other aspects involved with achieving that goal, as I wrote here:

    http://mjsbigblog.staging.wpengine.com/phillip-philips-home-could-sell-200k-this-week.htm#comment-608785923

  • getaway1

    In the real world, it’s more about connecting with a song and with a performer. People aren’t sitting around critiquing as if they are competing on a reality TV show.  It’s not all that deep.  The person who has commercial success will be the person who continues.  The person who can’t sell, no matter how great of a singer they are, will be out.  Also, Phillip has Jimmy Iovine behind him, more so than most of the Idols  (with the possible exception of Scotty) signed by Interscope.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “I don’t think people are “missing” it. Folks totally get that Katy and
    Rihanna and Dylan are successful for other reasons. It’s just that a lot
    of people don’t expect that kind of person to win a live singing
    contest. LOL”

    EXACTLY! lol

  • dabney c

    It’s a very good song, halo9125, and that’s resonating with people. I couldn’t stand Phil’s performances on the show, and yet when he played “Home” the first time, I loved it instantly. That’s the power of a good song. Clearly, he still needs to prove himself with his first and second albums. These are things we’ve learned over and over again from the Idols – especially David Cook, whose song was also played at the Olympics in 2008. 

     

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “In the real world, it’s more about connecting with a song and with a
    performer. People aren’t sitting around critiquing as if they are
    competing on a reality TV show.  It’s not all that deep. The person who
    has commercial success will be the person who continues.  The person
    who can’t sell, no matter how great of a singer they are, will be out.”

    Absolutely true. In the end, with a few exceptions, it’s all about the bottom line – $$$.

    “Also, Phillip has Jimmy Iovine behind him, more so than most of the
    Idols  (with the possible exception of Scotty) signed by Interscope.”

    Did Jimmy say this somewhere in an interview? I know that he was complementary to P2 in his comments on the show, but he raved about Josh and wasn’t particularly effusive about Scotty. I honestly have no idea whether Jimmy is more supportive of P2 than anyone else. I think that Jimmy is driven by supporting whoever from the show he thinks will be the most commercially successful.

  • Trina

    No clue what the success of Home will do for Phillip as far as future sales go but IMO it cant hurt. How many times has it been said “if (insert name of failed winner) only had a good coronation song he may have done better in the longrun”. Well P2 has struck gold and not only got a GREAT coronation song but he got major exposure through the Olympics and you can bet a lot more people know his name now more than they would have before. The first night it played on the Olympics I saw lots of people asking on Twitter what the name of the song was and who the singer was so I’m sure they looked it up and learned who P2 was. I wouldnt be surprised if the boost the Olympics gave Home does help him with future album sales even if its a short term boost.

    Lol, if that was the case, Kris would be a superstar. So would David Cook. They are both just as charming and humble as Phillip.

    Putting Phillip in the same “humble, charming” category as Kris, David, etc isnt that simple.  All of them may very well be those things but some people just have that special quality that connects well to people and makes them very likable to people. You either have it or you dont. You can be a crappy singer and still have it. Phillip may very well have more of a likability factor than Kris, Lee, or maybe even David. We’ll see how things go for him in the next few months but so far his overall sales, even if just for his Walmart EP that has nothing new on it has surprised me.

    I think Phillip is doing well but is HOME really doing better than Cook’s TOML? 

    Not airplay wise, that’s for sure. TOML was a BEAST. it spent like 15 weeks at #1 on the AC chart, Top 10 on HAC, and even the massive Z100 played it. Home is nowhere near that kind of airplay.

  • Anonymous

    I think you hit on a good point about coronation singles.   Can we make a connection on how well a coronation single did in relation to the debut album?

    We know Cook’s TOML did very well in sales and on the radio and his debut album did very well.

    Kris’s coronation single did poorly and his album did only ok.  (Based on album sales today, he really did ok.)

    Lee’s coronation single is probalby the lowest selling of any AI winner and his debut album so far has sold the least.

    Scotty’s ILYB did well in sales and on the radio and his debut album did well.

    Phillip – tba.   But if there is a pattern, his debut album should do fairly well…if radio picks up on the single.

  • Tess

    but objectively, a person cannot be regarded as a good singer if they sing off key

    The problem, as I see it, is the use of the term “good” singer.  Someone who hits all the notes as they are written can, and should be regarded, as a technically proficient singer but that skill is not, nor should it be (in my opinion) the factor that separates good from bad. When people are “judged” on a finite quality that is only a single component of a whole that is much larger than any of its individual parts that seriously limits “the field”.  I can’t draw much more than a stick figure but I am an Architect (a serious art form). Should my work be judged solely on a single element that comprises what some people perceive as a requirement in my field….I think not.

  • Mateja Praznik

    I disliked Phillip the moment I first saw him. My dislike quickly grew into hate the more I saw and heard him. He is everything I dislike in reality singing show contestants, rolled into one smelly package: bad technical singer, guitar strummer, average looking with annoying personality. Yuck.

    The worst thing? He had the support of TPTB. They started pimping him in the audition round. My only wish all season was to see him kicked off the show, but I knew it would never happen. Contestants like him are like crack for the voters.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “The problem, as I see it, is the use of the term “good” singer.  Someone
    who hits all the notes as they are written can, and should be regarded,
    as a technically proficient singer but that skill is not, nor should it
    be (in my opinion) the factor that separates good from bad.”

    I never said that singing on key is what makes a singer good, but it’s just a minimum requirement. A singer can sing on key, yet not be a good singer. You don’t need to be able to draw well freehand in a representational way to be an architect, but artistic ability can’t really be measured objectively like intonation in music.

    I don’t think that it can be argued that a singer who sings off key (regularly) can be regarded as a good singer. It’s a fundamental objective requirement, and the source of so much criticism of so many popular singers today. Of course, that has little to do with their popularity and commercial success, but as far as I can see, singing off key is still something that cannot be accepted in anyone who strives to be a good singer (but, as I said, singing on key regularly is only a minimum requirement and there is SO much more that is involved with being a good singer).  Adding to that, it’s evident that lots of people accept off key singing without being turned off, so contestants like Lee and P2 can achieve enough popularity to win a singing competition.

  • dabney c

    some people just have that special quality that connects well to people
    and makes them very likable to people. You either have it or you dont.

    Not really. There’s also a subjective component to how someone is perceived. I, personally, don’t see much charm in him. I’m sure he’s a nice enough fellow and all that blah blah, but as for the “wild charisma” and “it factor” that Jimmy kept trying to sell me – I don’t see any evidence of it. Lucky for him others do see it because he’d be back in the pawn shop in no time with an audience full of dabney c’s, lol.

  • Anonymous

    We’ll know fairly soon if P2 is attractive to significant amounts of people. He’ll be doing the promo appearances he missed due to illness. Also the video should get played on VH1 and it’ll be interesting to see the response to it. My purely subjective opinion is is that he has a certain “it” quality that will appeal to non-Idol fans.

    Even the pawn shop element could work for him because I think Pawn Stars is the current #1 show on cable. ;0

  • Anonymous

    The only way it will be known if PP has the “it” quality is when his 2nd album is released and/or finds success in another field of entertainment that he chooses to pursue.  The 1st release will depend on push, promotion and payola his record company is willing to dish out.  This has been true for 11 years now that Idol has been on the air.  I have no idea what the quality of his music is, so we’ll have to wait and see, but the only reason HOME is successful now is because the publishing company that owns it pushed it and was picked up by the Olympic committee. It has really nothing to do with Phil’s skill as an independent artist/songwriter/performer. He didn’t write it. I’m not even sure he played guitar on the cut.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Even the pawn shop element could work for him because I think Pawn Stars is the current #1 show on cable.

    It is completely your fault that I’m now wandering around singing a song about a dude who wants to buy his gal something nice, but he has no money, and the only things of value he has are his guitar and his heart, and you can’t pawn your heart.

    Unfortunately, it keeps coming out country-western rather than jazz/funk/rock.

  • Anonymous

    It’s kinda ironic though that  Phillip is more outgoing in interviews than Lee and Kris were. Since he’s supposedly really shy IRL. And while someone like Lee actually wasn’t shy lol

  • Anonymous

    I guess if you view singing as a science then measurable qualities such as the ability to hit notes would be important.  However, to me singing is an art.  For me, art is anything that has the ability to move me emotionally.  Phillip does that every time he sings, so he meets my definition of what a good singer is.

    Also, I have read posts by muscially knowledgeable people who have commented favorably about Phillip’s arrangements and performances on AI.  

  • SaSa8

    I do think Phillip is humble but I have not seen an interview yet that I would say he was “outgoing”.  IMO his interviews are one place he needs to really work on, he usually does not even look at the interviewer or into the camera. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wui-Zhuan-Lim/777616348 Wui Zhuan Lim

    Platinum record..ON THE WAY!

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know how the press, radio PDs, etc have responded to Lee, but they have pretty much all raved about Kris after meeting him. In fact, Kris has made some personal friends among the press and radio DJs/PDs. However, that hasn’t really helped his career, has it?  Radio DJs have made fun of many many Idols on the air — sometimes right after they finish interviewing them. But their personal opinions of the artists don’t really matter — if they are told by their bosses to play so-and-so’s music, they will do so. Sure, it’s nice if people in the media or radio PDs/DJs like you, but that rarely helps in terms of getting your music played more on the radio or getting some interview in a major publication or on a network tv show.

    From what I’ve seen of Phillip (granted, I haven’t seen every interview he’s done or much of his interaction with fans) he isn’t any more outgoing than Kris.  I haven’t seen enough of Lee’s interaction with the media or fans to say whether Phillip is more outgoing than him, but from what I’ve heard, Lee can be quite friendly and funny. And he certainly interacts a ton with his fans on twitter, etc.

    IMO, Taylor Hicks is probably the most outgoing male Idol winner. But that certainly didn’t matter when it came to getting radio play, did it? And it didn’t keep him from losing his record deal. I think you may be overvaluing the importance of someone’s personality in terms of its impact on a career — people with all types of personalities have become very successful in the music industry. Likewise, People with all types of personalities have really struggled to make it in the music industry.

  • Anonymous

    That’s great news for ‘Home’s’ writer(s), since he’ll/they’ll get most of the royalties – along with Interscope! lol

  • fuzzywuzzy

    No, I’m saying that intonation is an objective measure in singing, whereas many of the other aspects are not. Yes, singing should be an art and yes, great singing many times impacts a person emotionally, but even instrumental music can achieve that goal. As for “musically knowledgeable” people, I’m formally trained in music (and play two instruments), but that doesn’t mean that I think that everyone should follow MY musical tastes. lol  As I’ve mentioned before, music is for personal enjoyment, so people should like what they like (even if it’s someone who has trouble singing on key). lol

  • Anonymous

    I just updated this post with sales numbers from this week, via Entertainment Weekly. NOT TOO SHABBY.

  • Anonymous

    P2 may not have imperfections, but in comparison to say Pia and Jessica, he connects to the audience and feels his music, whereas the others do not.  You can be the most perfect singer going, but you’ve got to have charisma and emotional connection, which P2 does indeed have.

  • Anonymous

    Lee never really interacted with his fans on twitter that much in the past or came off as “nice” to them. He always striked me as kinda fake. It does look like he kinda has changed though (maybe being in love helped with making him more comfortable with his fans?)

    Phillip seems appreciative…as of now lol

  • Anonymous

    I’m sick of Phillip’s attitude about this song. He constantly says it’s not his style etc. I’ve got news for him, it’s probably going to be the only big hit he ever has. He seems ungrateful and wants to portray himself as being better than this song or too good for it.

  • Anonymous

    I know what my sound is. I’m just trying to get it out there how I can explain it. I’m not trying to write or put out some music that doesn’t represent me.

    And that, in a nutshell, is why I think being articulate matters.

  • Trina

    That’s great news for ‘Home’s’ writer(s), since he’ll/they’ll get most of the royalties – along with Interscope! lol

    Do you honestly believe only the writers should feel any type of happiness for a potential platinum record? Then I guess all the other winners (or any singer/band for that matter) who got gold gold/platinum records for songs they didnt write shouldnt be proud of that accomplishment? I’m pretty sure when Phillip is called a platinum selling artist in the future he’ll be pretty proud/happy about that and god knows its a step above the predictions that he would be the worst winner and kill the franchise.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “I told people before all this, I’d rather sell 10,000 records that represent me than 2 million that don’t represent me at all.”

    OK, P2. lol

  • Hazehel

    A rep at Interscope tells EW that the track sold 105,725 copies on iTunes from Monday through Wednesday

    Wow, from only 3 days of sales?  That’s more than my estimate (I estimated ~90K for 3 days).   Given that it is still #1, it would have probably sold ~160K by the end of the day, so 200K for the week is definitely possible (and a bit more) as long as it doesn’t start dropping like a stone.

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    I don’t think Phillip sounds ungrateful or thinks he’s above “Home”. I think he sounds like he was initially uncomfortable being handed a song that didn’t sound like something he’d write. It all happened pretty fast, poor kid didn’t even have a chance to think. I also believe that when the reaction to the song was so overwhelmingly positive, it caught him off guard and made him squirm a bit. I give him a lot of slack in that regard.

    The only think that concerns me is that I think the Civil Wars/Mumford & Sons -ish direction is damn near perfect for his voice and vibe. What he describes as his own style sounds so much like Dave Matthews to me that I think it will just end up inviting that comparison again. So I’d rather he WAS going to go more in the Home direction. But it is hard to tell without hearing his actual writing.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “I’m pretty sure when Phillip is called a platinum selling artist in the future he’ll be pretty proud/happy about that.”

    I’m not so sure. P2 still isn’t very enthusiastic about “Home” and says it’s not his style, so if it’s true that he has such strong artistic integrity, he shouldn’t really be happy about selling a lot of a song that doesn’t represent him fully. Or, maybe considering he says about “Home” that “I’m getting it more and making it more of me”, since there is some of him in the song, he’ll be able to be happy with selling between 10,000 and 2 million. lol

    ETA: The reality of the situation is that the more commercially successful “Home” is, the more Jimmy will feel justified in pushing P2 in a similar direction in order to maximize sales. What P2 says in an interview at this point is pretty meaningless.

  • Hazehel

    He can’t sing.

    LOL.  Just two words – One Direction.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “And there are a few musicians I want to get out on it I’ve connected with, so I’m excited to get the production down.”

    What does he mean by this? Does he mean recording some covers by “musicians” who he’s connected with and likes? Or does he mean having a “few musicians” play on the songs in the actual recording process (like his BIL).

  • Anonymous

    The only think that concerns me is that I think the Civil Wars/Mumford & Sons -ish direction is damn near perfect for his voice and vibe.

    But I think part of what makes that vibe work is the emphasis on harmonies, and that requires a core of band members who sing and who can read each other.  DMB has harmonies, but I think most of the sonic texture relies on instrumentation, which is how P2 seems to feel more comfortable writing and performing.  Unless his brother-in-law (?) is going to be singing and playing on the album, I’m not sure that he’s going to be able to develop that back and forth vibe that makes it work.

    Case in point:  The whoo-oohs vs ooh-oohs on Home’s chorus.  Holden’s version has some full-throated singing and harmonizing with the band (and, eventually, the audience) whereas the P2-and-backup-singer arrangement is much more hushed and unison-sounding.

    So even if it invites the comparisons, I think he should risk it on the jazz rock thing, because that’s honestly where I think he’s more comfortable as a performer, and he just said doesn’t want to sell himself as something he’s not.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    I’m sick of Phillip’s attitude about this song. He constantly says it’s not his style etc.

    To be fair, this time the interviewer directly asked him to comment on his original “not my style” quote. So he really had to address the issue.

    Basically, he’s paying the longer-term price of having gone for a gut reaction over tact and forethought in his early post-win interviews. He wouldn’t be having to revisit the Repudiated Style of Coronation Single meme if he’d said something more like: “I’m lucky to have been given a great song for my first single, and I’m excited about releasing my own songs in the fall. You know how Home has [pick a musical element or two]? The songs I write do things like that, only pulling it in a more jazz/funk-influenced direction.”

  • Anonymous

    I would be proud of being able to vocally sell a song.  His delivery is an important piece of the puzzle, and if he didn’t nail that then the song wouldn’t work, and people wouldn’t be connecting with it, and the song wouldn’t have been chosen by the company that’s providing songs for the Olympics.

    Mateja Praznik said: He can’t sing.

    Hazehel said: LOL. Just two words – One Direction.

    Definitely. Phillip has a style that isn’t about how great of a technical singer he is, it’s about how he delivers a song. The same is true for a lot of current artists. I’m surprised that you would have a problem with his vocals Mateja, since you are a big supporter of acts like One Direction and Cher Lloyd. The genres are different, but essentially it’s all about how they deliver a song.

  • Anonymous

    “Now, rather than being known as the kid who won Idol, he’ll be known as the kid whose song was played at the Olympics.”

    Right.  Just like Cook was.  I don’t think so.

  • Anonymous

    I no longer attempt predictions on the success of Idols after the show. If someone had told me that David C and Adam would both struggle to sell a fraction of what they did the first time, I would not have believed them. So I won’t make any predictions for Phillip. What may be telling however is if Home makes a rapid rise up the charts and starts getting a ton of airplay. It should based on what it is selling. If it doesn’t then that may say something for how willing radio is to play PP’s future music.

  • Anonymous

    And TOML still gets airplay, 4 years later.

  • Anonymous

    Kris’s coronation song sucked, Lee’s was really not even a coronation song and Scotty is in country (which doesn’t eat their young).  Time will tell.

  • Anonymous

    Someone mentioned royalties.  That raised a question in my mind.  Is this song considered a 19R release and Phil gets to pocket his performance royalties, or is this song considered as a 1st single through Interscope, & therefore the performance royalties are going to be part of the recoupment process?

    ETA: I checked on iTunes and it’s all 19R so Phillip will get his payday.  That might have had a small part in his attitude change towards the song, lol.
     

  • Anonymous

    I think he would get paid either way since the song isn’t part of his recording contract.

    The best part of that EW interview is when he clearly tried to avoid saying anything negative about having to perform a 1D song on tour

  • Anonymous

    Thats nice  you could be  a PR rep.

  • Anonymous

    If you go to Amazon the record label is listed as both 19 and Interscope.  I think that’s been the case for all of the coronation singles, they are the first songs that are licensed to the label.  

  • Anonymous

    “I know what my sound is.  I’m just trying to get it out there how I can explain it.  I’m not trying to write or put out some music that doesn’t represent me.”

    TPTB will have something to say about that. After all it’s their money he’s spending right now. He had better learn the art of compromise.  He will put out what they say, when they say and how they say.

  • tinawina

    Those are fantastic points that I had not considered. In my mind I just was thinking that type of bluegrass-ish guitar work and the mesh between country, alt and folk was a great fit. I also think that style fits with the quiet storytelling nature Phil seems to prefer.

    But the point about harmonizing and band dynamics as an integral part of that scene is well taken. You may be quite correct in your assessment.

  • Anonymous

    this is pretty awesome for P2!!!
    The Olympics are such a good timing for him!!! and he has a very good song that is a good fit!

  • Anonymous

    I think Lee has always seemed appreciative of his fans on Twitter. Right from the start.

  • Hazehel

    I think I read somewhere that Phillip and David Cook had a dinner some time before the finale (but can’t remember when), I suspect David Cook probably told him about the problem he had with a successful coronation song that doesn’t really define him, and then his attempt to find a midway between his music and what the label wants him to do.  TOML was David most successful single, and that I believe that had probably damaged him as an artist because he became associated with a song that isn’t him.  I suspect that Phillip had learnt from David Cook on what not to do (i.e. attempting to make everyone happy by compromising on his music), and he makes sure that everyone knows what his kind of music is.

    I do think Phillip’s voice is perfect for “Home” kind of songs, slightly gravelly and rather soothing, but it probably won’t quite fit the songs he would like to do.  But it’s really what he wants to do, and if he is happy with not selling a lot doing something he loves, then so be it.  However, he doesn’t need to try to distance himself from “Home”.   Unlike TOML, “Home” is a decent song, and there is no cringe-inducing lyrics like “magic rainbow”, so he should just embrace it.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    I think I read somewhere that Phillip and David Cook had a dinner some time before the finale (but can’t remember when), I suspect David Cook probably told him about the problem he had with a successful coronation song that doesn’t really define him, and then his attempt to find a midway between his music and what the label wants him to do.

    It was whatever week Cook performed on the results show, and yeah, I was hoping at the time that P2 had gotten Cook to speak freely.

    Thing is, during the summer that Cook was working on DCTR, he would drop hints in interviews about alt-rock songwriters he was excited about working with (some of these collaborations made the record — while there was audibly compromise on DCTR, it’s not like Cook made an album of romantic ballads for AC radio) and other musical stuff that pointed in the direction the album actually went. So groundwork was gradually laid for the album he released.

    Maybe P2 just has weak interview skills, but his statements about the direction of his album seem to get vaguer and mushier over time. I’ve heard other Idols use mentions of collaborations or special “guest guitarist” appearances to build some excitement (I know Durbin did)… and we’re not getting that from P2. Do his cowriters tweet about sessions with him? 

  • Mateja Praznik

     Oh, I would say 3/5 of One Direction can sing better than Phillip. All 5 boys together are a much stronger act than Phillip.

    Unreleated to singing ability, they have charisma. The X Factor. Phillip has zero.

  • Anonymous

    Interview with KC radio station P2 talked about meeting David Cook and said the advice given was enjoy it while you can because it’s fleeting. I’m sure not every article is posted here because I’ve read several with names of people P2 has written/worked with. I’m also not interested in picking apart his words and determining what would be a more Graduate level English appropriate way to speak. This happens every year when newly minted Idol had to learn the ropes in this game we’ve all been around to witness more than several rodeos. I doubt P2 knows what’s going on the album as it’s not his call anyway. Every fanbase is lead to believe by their snowflake that their album will sound in some groundbreaking wonderful polished indie sound and when the music comes out it’s a pop rock polished up version of the picture that was painted. Nobody is exempt from that. I’m sure thousands of pages will be discussed on how P2 speaks and what the music sounds like but the reality is the amount of hype Interscope can drum up plus the $$$ that they throw behind P2 mean much much more. P2 has some great hype right now, fir his sake I hope it continues.

  • Anonymous

    The 2 shows are different. X Factor as a show IMO was always about finding artists with an “it” factor. That means XF contestants that are successful shouldn’t really have no personalities. Idol is supposed to be a singing competition only. Although to some people, the recent seasons & contestants who’s gotten far could be debatable as good singers.

    I always think of it like this. If you look at some of the current artists, which show would they succeed (top 40 contestants) on. Katy, Britney, GaGa, etc. would all succeed on XF. Most of the current artists would never succeed on Idol because most don’t even have decent voices.

  • Larc

    From what I’ve been able to piece together over time, the kind of music that seems to be in P2’s comfort zone may not be something that would fit easily into an established genre.  Also, it doesn’t sound like anything there would be a significant demand for.  He is probably being told now precisely what will be on his debut album, and he may not be particularly enthusiastic about it.  The extent to which he goes along with marching orders from Jimmy Iovine and Interscope or digs his heels in and rebels will likely determine whether his album is successful or not.

  • Incipit

    …a minimum requirement of being regarded as a good singer is being able to sing on key. Of course, even good technical singers miss a note once in a while, but to be regarded as a good singer, one minimum requirement is that you sing on key. That said, singing on key does not automatically mean that a person is a good singer. Not at all. There is a lot that goes into a person being a good singer beyond being able to sing on key – phrasing, interpretation, vocal tone, emotional connection, charisma, style, and it goes on. As for P2, his fans evidently have a high tolerance for off key singing (“imperfections”?) and melody mangling, and P2’s other attributes clearly compensate for that. lol

    fuzzywuzzy, You’ve said anything I would have said if I got to this thread earlier…in this post, and other posts you’ve written. 

    On key IS ‘my’ Minimum Basic Requirement, and it seems I have had this conversation before, in another season. If my first reaction to a singer is to cringe at the off key notes because I can hear them – there is no enjoyment in listening, no matter how ‘charming’ the person may or may not be. If others don’t hear them, their experience will be different, of course.

    ‘Phrasing, interpretation, vocal tone, emotional connection, charisma, style’, all of the above couldn’t make up for the cringing – but the fact is, to my ear, all of the above are also missing. Once again, other people’s MMV.

    IMO, the indignities Phillip perpetrates on melody and phrasing and just the notes in a score ought to be a misdemeanor in several states…and I can’t get past that. I tried to find a redeeming feature, maybe the guitar playing? Still haven’t heard this unique approach.  He may very well be a perfectly nice young man, beyond the naivete’ and the inarticulateness, maybe he can even write a good song, time will tell and I wish him well – just not with my money. Heh. Musically, he makes me cringe – there is no common ground.

     And even when the writer sings “Home” (much better, IMO), I don’t like this song.

     JMO. Of Course.

  • Anonymous

    I feel a distinction should be made between singing off key and vocal tone. Singing off key is not defensible by any singer ever in my opinion. For all the talk about Bob Dylan, Springsteen and others not having traditionally great voices those people do not sing off key. The tone of their voices may be unappealing to some but that is a different issue.
    So to say it doesn’t matter if PP sings off key doesn’t make sense to me. You may like the way his voice makes you feel or how he emotes through the song but I personally don’t see how you can enjoy a song when notes are being mangled.

  • clearone

    ” You may like the way his voice makes you feel or how he emotes through the song but I personally don’t see how you can enjoy a song when notes are being mangled. ”

    Thing is I don’t hear the notes being mangled.  I enjoy what I enjoy and I enjoy Phillip’s voice and his interpretation of songs.  I’m not stuck on him having perfect pitch or not.  I’m glad I don’t have a ‘real ear’ so to speak.  I daresay it would take away from my enjoyment of many artists since I just enjoy them for who they are, not whether they are perfect or not. 

  • clearone

    Charisma is in the eye of the beholder.  I think Phillip oozes charisma.  One D on the other hand ………… not so much. 

  • Hazehel

    Oh, I would say 3/5 of One Direction can sing better than Phillip. 

    Of course you would say it, but then everyone knows that there is only one half-decent singer in One Direction.   

    Unreleated to singing ability, they have charisma.

    You are mistaking cuteness with charisma.  Cuteness is for teen and pre-teen girls who aren’t too discriminating (they are too busy screaming to have any sense of judgement anyway).   One Direction is a just manufactured band whose members collectively have with all the charisma of paper cup. Strip away all the Simon Cowell packaging and they are just ordinary boys who are somewhat better looking that the the ones next door. 

  • http://twitter.com/doesmonaknow DoesMonaKnow

    Charisma is in the eye of the beholder. I think Phillip oozes charisma. One D on the other hand ………… not so much. 

    I agree. These arguments about who has a good voice and which one has charisma or not are bound to go in circles because everyone’s standards are different.

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    I agree, which is why I wasn’t pleased with him as an Idol contestant, because as a live cover singer Phillip tends to miss notes and rearrange every song into a flat atonal anti-melody that has zero to do with the lyrics of the particular composition. He didn’t get better to me until towards the end when he started doing fairly straight covers of songs that were in his range and fit his voice, like Volcano. IMO of course.

    But recorded, his world-wearly voice is expressive, and his vocal tone is textured and hits the notes just fine. His recordings usually sounded good to me. Plus he straddles the vibe between good ol’ boy charm and indie too-cool-for-school attitude. Since there is a market for that type of thing right now I think he could find a niche, his problem is his niche will only accept him if the songs are awesome.  Plus TPTB will probably want him to cross over to at least HAC.

    You are mistaking cuteness with charisma. Cuteness is for teen and pre-teen girls who aren’t too discriminating (they are too busy screaming to have any sense of judgement anyway). One Direction is a just manufactured band whose members collectively have with all the charisma of paper cup. Strip away all the Simon Cowell packaging and they are just ordinary boys who are somewhat better looking that the the ones next door.

    I disagree. The first time I watched one of their videos (linked on here) I thought OD was ridiculously charming. What you described feels much more like Big Time Rush to me. That’s what likeable generic cute boys without massive amounts of charisma singing manufactured generic songs actually looks like IMO.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I agree with your entire post.

    “I feel a distinction should be made between singing off key and vocal
    tone. Singing off key is not defensible by any singer ever in my
    opinion.”

    Intonation and vocal tone are two entirely different aspects of a singer. Intonation is objective, whereas vocal tone is subjective.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Except for singing on key. That can be measured objectively and is not a matter of “standards” or taste.

  • http://twitter.com/doesmonaknow DoesMonaKnow

    But even then you still have arguments about what is pleasing to someone’s ear or not. I guess I just don’t see the point of trying to convince someone else that so-and-so does or doesn’t sing on key. If a person thinks their favorite is never off-key then you’re not going to change their minds so why harp on it?

  • Anonymous

    If P2 can sell more than 800K downloads of a song singing “off key” then he should keep doing it. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. ;0

  • Hazehel

    I disagree. The first time I watched one of their videos (linked on here) I thought OD was ridiculously charming.

    Charming is just cuteness for oldies.   And you realized that this is just the packaging right?  (I never thought Big Time Rush cute, they look too old to be cute.)

  • Anonymous

    He says:  
     “It’s a lot of fun, and it’s also a lot of give and take — for both sides, not just me — the producer and other people as well.”  

  • Anonymous

    I disagree. The first time I watched one of their videos (linked on here) I thought OD was ridiculously charming

    Maybe it’s because I saw the hilarious parody video first, but they just come across as puppyish and awkward to me in the video.  Which I would consider cute, but not charismatic.  BTR may be even more generic and even less charismatic, but OD doesn’t clear any bars for me.

    The last youngish (although not teenaged) male performers I saw who really had a lot of charisma and energy were the lads from Walk the Moon, particularly Nicholas Petricca.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    I’m sure not every article is posted here because I’ve read several with names of people P2 has written/worked with.

    Prodded by your statement, I actually found a cowriter tweet! It seems there was a writing session about a month ago with Liz Phair, Ben Neill (inventor of the mutantrumpet), and John Alagia (producer who’s worked with Liz Phair, Dave Matthews, and many others).

    So that at least sounds like Interscope’s not exclusively pushing P2 to Mumfordize. I know Phair’s considered folk-rock, but reviewers tend to comment that her chord choices and song structures aren’t typical of the genre.

  • dabney c

    People, srsly,  if you wanna be hip to the hep, you gotta call them “1D”, not “OD”. Please. That’s a dead giveaway that you’re so hopelessly [ ] (<– that's a square, btw :-D).

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind or get them to stop liking a singer. lol  I’ve said repeatedly that music is for personal enjoyment and that’s the way it should be. I’m simply pointing out that intonation is an objective measure in singing, not an opinion, a matter of taste or standards, and that if a person doesn’t detect it, it doesn’t mean that it’s not happening. Or, the listener hears it, but it doesn’t really bother them. Plus, if someone sings off key regularly, they cannot be regarded as a good singer no matter how many other attributes they may possess, since singing on key is a basic, minimum requirement of anyone who is regarded as a good singer.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Recordings are different that live singing. On recordings pitchiness is fixed technologically (Pro-tools) or through repetitions. Mostly through Pro-tools these days.

  • Anonymous

    Not a P2 fan, & thought he should’ve gotten voted off when he mangled “Time of the Season.”  BUT, his fans kept him on and he started peaking at the right time, at the end of the season.  I thought Phil did a good job toward the end.

    “Home” is a good fit for Phillip, but he also sings it well.  It’s not about having the best technical voice, especially for a song like this one, which sounds very much like a folk song.  There are a lot of other subtleties that go into making a song sound good, including phrasing.  Phillip “sells” this song very well.

    “Home” was a good choice for the Olympics musically as well as lyrically.  It has a lot of quintessentially American sounds, including folk and country. 

    I’m still not a P2 fan, but I will check out his music.  When he is at his best, he’s really got something.

  • dabney c

    as a live cover singer Phillip tends to miss notes and rearrange every
    song into a flat atonal anti-melody that has zero to do with the lyrics
    of the particular composition. He didn’t get better to me until towards
    the end when he started doing fairly straight covers of songs that were
    in his range and fit his voice, like Volcano. IMO of course.

    IMO, too. What Phil did to some songs he covered on Idol was just criminal to my ears. His atonality drove me fricking crazy … and I’m not one who particularly harps on being super-on-pitch or anything. I understand that staying on key is not the be all and end all of being a good singer/performer/musician. But Phillip managed to pissed me off more than he pleased me, so when it comes to his post-Idol stuff, I’m a little skeptical, despite my true like of “Home”.

  • waynocoaster

    The songwriter lucked out.  Jimmy Iovine is the prince with this one.

  • Anonymous

    Some of my favorite artists have issues staying on pitch when they sing live. Florence Welch from Florence + the Machine is one example. I’m not going to purge her songs from my iPod, or respect her any less, because of it.

    Singing is just one element of of artistry. There’s songwriting, arranging, performing on an instrument, gelling with other instrumentalists within a band. I consider all those particulars when approaching an artist like Phillip.

    I didn’t care for the way Philip “re-arranged” songs on the show, but I’ll reserve judgement on his music until the songs come out.

  • Anonymous

    I refuse to kowtow to their preferences in abbreviations as long as listening to the music makes me feel that I have, in fact, OD’ed on something. Heh.

  • Anonymous

    Probably 3/4 of my twitter feed flails daily over One Direction — and I don’t have any teen or tween girls on my feed — these are all adults doing the flailing

    I’m not interested in 1D at all, so I often end up scrolling past all the flail — but it’s still there. Same thing with Bieber — I see a lot of adults who love him

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    this song will be platinum very quickly. I´m happy 4 him, and i hope he would have a decent album 4 november, it will definetly not be of the taste of everybody but its gonna be 100% him.

  • Incipit

     if you wanna be hip to the hep, you gotta call them “1D”, not “OD”. Please. That’s a dead giveaway that you’re so hopelessly [ ] (<– that's a square, btw :-D).

    Bwahaha! OK. That’s definitely funny, dabney c.

    “hip to the hep”? I guess it’s true that every archetype comes back around again, the 1960’s, like, called from the coffeehouse, and Maynard G. Krebs lives!

    But, One Direction? Is that, like, “Chubby Checker sings the greatest hits of Noel Coward”? Heh.

  • tucker davis

    I hope that P2 has fans outside the Idol bubble because he surely doesn’t have many here.  lol
    Ya’ll are too deep for me!

  • dabney c

    Bieber?? Ugh. All my 12 y/o girl students are in love with Bieber, and I try valiantly to talk them out of it. Ewwww, the Biebs. LOL! Truth is, I kind of like 1D’s “That’s what makes you beautiful” in a fun, breezy, mindless summer tune kind of way. Anything but Bieber. Honestly. 

  • dabney c

    Oh, I’m not so sure it’s gonna be 100% him. He’s not calling all the shots at this point in his career. “Home” is not “him”, either, according to Phil, and how much say did he have on that one? :-/ 

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, if he’s lucky his album will be 75% “him” and 25% what the label wants. He’s already said there will be at least a couple of songs like “Home” on the album, so wouldn’t that automatically remove it from being 100% “him”?

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    LMAO! I guess I am square then. **hangs head in shame**

  • Anonymous

    Considering how many units his single sold the first week, I’d say that it’s a good bet that he has a lot of AI fans.  On a very positive note, the success of the single seems to be bringing him a lot of attention too.  I haven’t seen any confirmation, but I read on twitter that Z100 played Home this morning, and asked for feedback on it.  An indie rock magazine wrote a story about the song, and the success that it has seen, because of the Olympics.  I saw the video posted on a website that usually wouldn’t post anything about idol alums.  

  • Anonymous

    It’s amusing that the meme usually is “if only so and so can break through the shackles of the label’s risk adverse and homogenized song choices and put out their true artisty then they will become superstars” but instead with P2 it’s “he better listen to the label drop these silly ideas he has if he ever wants to sell any records”.

  • http://twitter.com/ladymctech ladymctech

    “It didn’t work with Lee, but … ”

    I still wonder if it hadn’t been Simon’s swan song year, Ellen wasn’t such a terrible judge, Kara who a lot of folks hated wasn’t around, Lee and Crystal both had been given a song list for their coronation tune that wasn’t something better-known artists had already done…would the present be at least a little different for Lee? I think Phillip has benefitted tremendously from the new label setup.

  • http://twitter.com/MikhailXO MichaelG (MikhailXO)

    Florence is a good example of the point you are illustrating. And she is so awesome live….her ‘artistry’–her creative skill…are salient. Great, strong vocals, awesome range…but, yes– imperfect. Who cares! Not me.

     I feel like Kara Dio’Guardi –but yes…it IS all about artistry.

  • http://twitter.com/MikhailXO MichaelG (MikhailXO)

    P2 has grown on me. Doubt he’ll be another DeWyze.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sue-Cooper/100003576500924 Sue Cooper

    Interesting comments here and also ridiculous.  Here’s a guy doing what he loves and singing a song that I think alot of people connect with.  Give him his props and if you don’t like it, don’t listen.  What a creepy world we live in….

  • Anonymous

    I agree with your post.  Setting aside Phillip’s live performance of Time of the Season, none of the notes on the other songs he sang struck me as off or wrong.   But then I am far from being an expert on music.  I only know what I like to hear.  The only thing I feel comfortable about commenting on is a singer’s ability to convey the lyrics of a song, and to me, Phillip is truly gifted in that respect.

    Because I don’t have a music background, I always make a point to read comments about Phillip’s performances by posters who profess to be musically knowledgeable.  I would say based on my review of those posts that the self-proclaimed musical experts on the internet are divided over whether Phillip (1) sings off-key and (2) is musically gifted.  It seemed to me that the posters who look on his performances and recordings favorably tended to be jazz musicians/afficionados.  From the little I’ve read about jazz music, it appears to be incredibly complex and different in its approach from other genres of music, so perhaps Phillip could be “on-key” to a jazz musician but “off-key” to a musician trained in another music genre. 

    And as for those commenting that the type of music Phillip wants to record and perform won’t sell, we won’t really know until his album comes out.  I’m sure some industry people made the same comments about Norah Jones’s “Come Away with Me” and Adele’s “21.”  Both of those albums have each sold over 20 million copies.  Likewise, Jimmy Iovine recognized that Eminem could be a successful recording artist even though he was a white rapper and there were no white rappers in the industry at the time. 

  • Anonymous

    Reminder:

    If you land on the blog to wag your finger at commenters, you will be instantly banned.

  • http://twitter.com/doesmonaknow DoesMonaKnow

    I still wonder if it hadn’t been Simon’s swan song year, Ellen wasn’t such a terrible judge, Kara who a lot of folks hated wasn’t around, Lee and Crystal both had been given a song list for their coronation tune that wasn’t something better-known artists had already done…would the present be at least a little different for Lee? I think Phillip has benefitted tremendously from the new label setup.

    I guess it depends on how much you believe the stench of fail surrounding S9 lies with the contestants themselves. Some people think the cast wasn’t any better/worse than usual while others think the winner/runner-up especially wouldn’t have gotten very far in other seasons of the show, and their failure is more a natural result of people who weren’t really “Idol material” having to live up to unrealistic expectations than “the system” letting them down. I do agree that Phillip has walked into a pretty nice set-up with Interscope, compared to some of the Idol winners who had to work with Sony, especially in the later years. But could Lee have been a hit artist under different Idol circumstances? That’s a really interesting question…

  • Karen C

    But could Lee have been a hit artist under different Idol circumstances? That’s a really interesting question…

    IMO, I think if Lee had Home as his coronation single, he would have done well with it, it really would have fit him well and is closer to the kind of music he normally writes, closer to his pre idol music, plus his more recent songs I’ve heard.  If Home had been a success for him, and then he had the same type of music on his first album, it might have also been a bigger success. 

    ETA: I think that much of the talk of failure of that season came when they weren’t successful on the charts. Even though the ratings went down this season, it isn’t seen as much of a failure at this point because Phillip is doing so well.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. Home fits Lee at least as well as it does Phillip if not more, since it seems in line with music Lee has written himself. Just reinforces my opinion that luck plays a large part in the music industry. If Lee didn’t have bad luck he wouldn’t have had any luck at all (as far as his music career-obviously not his personal life).

  • Karen C

    I would say based on my review of those posts that the self-proclaimed musical experts on the internet are divided over whether Phillip (1) sings off-key and (2) is musically gifted. It seemed to me that the posters who look on his performances and recordings favorably tended to be jazz musicians/afficionados. From the little I’ve read about jazz music, it appears to be incredibly complex and different in its approach from other genres of music, so perhaps Phillip could be “on-key” to a jazz musician but “off-key” to a musician trained in another music genre. 

    I think this is also true for some types of rock, especially alternative rock, the voice might seem out of tune to some, but it fits the tone of the type of music they are singing.  So jazzy acoustic rock probably does fit his voice. I think he needs the right material.

  • http://twitter.com/doesmonaknow DoesMonaKnow

    ETA: I think that much of the talk of failure of that season came when they weren’t successful on the charts. Even though the ratings went down this season, it isn’t seen as much of a failure at this point because Phillip is doing so well.

    That certainly didn’t help but I think the fail talk of S9 started during the season itself, like when the semifinals didn’t go as expected, when it was revealed how much the vote totals had declined from S8, and the tour having cancellations/ending early. The “flop” of the albums was just icing on the fail cake. I often joke that the high point of S9 was “Pants on the Ground”. I just think S9 was just hit with bad fortune on practically all sides. 

    Another fortuitous thing for Phillip is that it’s a year for the Summer Olympics, which only come along every four years.  “The Time of My Life” was used during the 2008 Olympic coverage and that boosted its sales, though admittedly the sales of “Home” have surged much more. But even so the song has to have other things going for it besides just being an AI coronation song. I mean, if “No Boundaries” had come along in 2008 or 2012 I can’t see it making the cut as an Olympic anthem, no matter how inspirational the lyrics are.

  • Anonymous

    Z100 played HOME? Probably a one time thing.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Artistry and singing on key are not mutually exclusive. All of the great singers in history did not regularly have problems singing on key and they possessed tremendous artistry. Like some others have posted, off key singing makes me cringe and I can’t enjoy that singer no matter what other attributes they have.  For me, it’s very simple.

  • Anonymous

    Definitely, if it ain’t broke……

    However, if there was anything “off key” (aka pitchy) in the studio recording, which is what is being downloaded , it was fixed electronically.
      
    Where he goes off when singing live is on the “Ohz”.  He doesn’t sing them in the studio recording, which leaves detractors with nothing to complain about.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    He also has problems reaching the low note “home” and has taken to shouting it in live performances so he doesn’t have to “hit” that note. lol

  • Anonymous

    Very happy for P2 and these updated numbers. To all the Idol fans, a win for Phillip is a win for Idol, just like a win for Gabby is a win for USA!

  • Anonymous

    when did Z100 play it?

  • Larc

    A singer who can’t sing on key is in the wrong business, IMO.  It can be fixed in the studio, but something that isn’t the real thing is artificial.  Digitally altered performances need to come with a warning label.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Not all Idol fans. lol  And the analogy to Gabby isn’t appropriate since she is an outstanding gymnast, whereas P2 is a weak singer.

  • http://twitter.com/mmcrell Michael McRell

    Everybody seems to have a lot of opinions about everything and anything…but it seems to me the only opinion that really matters at this point is the ‘buying public’ and they seem to have spoken loud and clear.  Again, that might change when his album comes out, but why all of the back and forth about pitchy, on key, off key….have to wonder how many of the ‘debaters’ on this and other sites have any musical background to judge? Just saying….you know what they say about people with opinions.

  • Anonymous

    I think his shouting of “home” is a way to change up the song rather than to avoid a particular note. 

  • Trina

    Elvis Duran played it this morning around 8ish and Elvis wanted listeners to give feedback.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Digitally altered performances need to come with a warning label.”

    All you need to do is look in the liner notes for the use of ProTools (or other software) in the recording of the album. Interestingly, the opposite has happened according to this article:

    A new generation of vocal processors, and a new generation of engineers,
    confront the possibilities and ethics of digital vocal manipulation.

    ………
    Like many CD covers these days, Nashville recording artist Allison
    Moorer’s latest has a sticker on the jewel box. However, Moorer’s does
    not warn parents of explicit lyrics; rather, it advises that it was
    recorded and mixed in a manner that’s becoming increasingly rare. The
    sticker on Moorer’s Miss Fortune LP states boldly: ‘Absolutely
    no vocal tuning or pitch-correction was used in the making of this
    record.’ Moorer’s producer, RS Field, observes, “Vocal tuning is
    contributing to the Milli Vanilli-fication of modern music. [Putting the sticker on the record] was sort of our little freak flag.”

    http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct03/articles/vocalfixes.htm

    This is a very interesting article regarding the extent of using technology to alter/fix vocals in the recording studio. It’s pretty amazing what can be done.

  • Anonymous

    I am actually sitting here lmao at the thought of warning labels on albums that include autotuned vocals. Write to your Congressman! 

    I think Phillip just added the shout to Home to keep it interesting for himself, especially when singing it for a big audience. He still sings the original note when doing an acoustic performance and doesn’t have any problem reaching it. 

    Actually, I’d say Phillip, despite whatever shortcoming he may have when aiming for high notes, has a more reliable low range than some of the other “good” singers that came off of Idol, and a lot of warmth in his voice in that range. He may not be the type of singer that Idol fans have come to expect, but I think there’s a place for him in the industry if he has some songwriting chops.

  • Guest

    LOL!! he’s doing extremely well for a “weak” singer… his singing style just doesn’t fit the Karaoke Pop mold that so many Idol watchers supposedly like, but never vote for.
    America seems to like Phillip’s style a lot and they are showing it by buying his single

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Some of my favorite artists have issues staying on pitch when they sing
    live. Florence Welch from Florence + the Machine is one example. I’m not
    going to purge her songs from my iPod, or respect her any less, because
    of it.”

    Florence is pitchy live? I like her recordings, but that’s pretty disappointing.

  • http://twitter.com/mmcrell Michael McRell

    I will probably get banned for this….but oh well.  What exactly is your point…you seem to be on a mission to ban all auto tuning from recordings.  It isn’t going to happen…I imagine it is what the majority of recording artists do and that is not going to change.  People are not stupid…they know this is happening and obviously they don’t really care.  Went to a concert and saw Kenny Chesney…he does not sound the same live as he does on the radio…will I never buy his music again?  No…if I like a song that he puts out I will still buy it because most likely the only way I am going to hear it is on my ipod. I don’t need a warning label..the gov’t has bigger things to worry about.  Also, you have posted on this one article over and over again your arguments against Phillip and his ilk…we get it..you don’t care for Phillip….move on….I’m sure nobody believes they are going to change your mind and it doesn’t seem anyone is really trying too. You are like a pit bull with a bone…let it go already.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    ” his singing style just doesn’t fit the Karaoke Pop mold that so many Idol watchers supposedly like, but never vote for.”

    I’m not so sure. Since P2 sang well-known songs in a “style” that made them unrecognizable, that was definitely new to Idol, and probably is similar to some very amateurish karaoke singers.  lol

  • Valentin432

    The song placement was very proeminent and it enhanced the olympic moment very well, good for P².
    It can’t do nothing but help him for his album release in the fall, funny developpement for a song he didn’t want as a single.

  • Guest

    A non pop diva/non karaoke artist has won the last 5 seasons…America seems quite sure LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/shelby.walker.5011 Shelby Walker

    ” P2 sang well-known songs in a “style” that made them unrecognizable, that was definitely new to Idol, ”
    Not new to Idol. Adam mangled Ring of Fire pretty badly, for one. 

  • Valentin432

     And 2 of those were dropped from their label and the other is hanging by a thread.
    Maybee “America” is looking more than hearing these days.

  • Valentin432

     Except Kelly, Fantasia, Carrie and Jordin haven’t been dropped.
    Ruben was dropped after 3 albums, which seems like a hard bar to acheve these days.

    So yes, the WGWG are being dropped at a much faster pace.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    First, I am expressing my opinion as everyone is entitled to do, and standing up for authentic, bona fide singers who have the talent to at least be able to sing on key, AND who are tremendous artists AND like the great singers of long ago, do not need any vocal enhancement or “fixing” to sing well on their recordings. What’s truly amazing to me is that I even have to defend the notion that singers should be able to sing on key and that I’m being criticized for it! I read all kinds of euphemisms to excuse/explain off key singing – “imperfections”, “style”, “emotional singing” and thinly veiled digs at those who expect professional singers at the very least, to be able to sing on key – “expecting perfection” and other total crap.

    Second, that is only the second time that I have posted that article and it was for another reason pertaining to something that was in a comment from another poster, that CDs with heavy use of ProTools should come with a warning label.

    ETA: Oh, and that was a joke, since you seem not have have realized that either.

    Third, I have nothing personally against P2 but he’s the latest example of how things have changed on Idol, and you still don’t understand the issue here. The point is that technology has reached a point where recordings for some singers are verging on, if not blatantly misrepresenting them as singers, which becomes evident when they sing live, and that article discusses a very real concern that recordings can be so enhanced and “fixed” that it becomes an issue of ethics and honesty in presenting such a highly enhanced recording that differs so greatly from the ability and talents of the actual singer. 

    GET IT NOW?

  • Guest

    Thanks

  • http://twitter.com/CanadianLady2 CanadianLady

    Go Phillip! So glad to see these numbers. I wasn’t crazy about him in the beginning, but I became a fan by about the 4th week of the show.

    I bought all his tracks and I love what he did with songs like The Letter, Volcano, etc. Even love the Time of the Season. BTW, Phillip was mortified that he had trouble hitting those notes live.

    I used to have to change the channel when Taylor Swift was on. And my husband is one of those people who winces and complains when he hears a wrong note. And he likes Phillip – a lot. Loves Home.

    Re Phillip on the show, I have a friend who just had a couple of kidney stones. He had them for about a week and a half and it was agony. Didn’t require surgery but basically was knocked right out until they were gone. I have no idea how Phillip managed what he did on pain meds which likely made him a bit whoozy and also gave him a dry throat and didn’t nullify the pain.

    I am SO glad to see his song succeeding.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    lol You may be right on that one, but Adam did demonstrate in other performances that he could adhere to a melody. 

  • Anonymous

    He doesn’t have a problem reaching the low C, but it’s probably his bottom usable note, or nearly, and it’s quiet for a noisy arena.  Whatever he does instead is fine with me. 

    Remember, Phillip is a Guitarist who sings, and as such, he is doing fantastically well!!!

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    how is the song doing on the radio right now??? you people who listen the radio, have been air played more often or not???

  • Valentin432

    She may have been, I haven’t followed the latest news but she’s still on the RCA website http://www.rcarecords.com/artists

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    home and whistle are very close right now (1.00 and 0.95 respectively), i think the inevitable is coming.

  • Incipit

     perhaps Phillip could be “on-key” to a jazz musician but “off-key” to a musician trained in another music genre. 

    IrisandLilies, Jazz isn’t a foreign language branch of music, each school of jazz has defining characteristics, and we know how it is done…but  the first thing needed is tremendous technical and creative ability, because the players are improvising within the framework of the music.  I’ve been enjoying all kinds of jazz for over 40 years, enough, I think, to recognize it when I hear it. If Phillip has that training or experience of any kind, it’s not in his resume’…if the thought is he may be a budding boy genius who can do it naturally, with no training or experience, or invent a new school of jazz, it is not yet evident in any of his work.  

    He may be better served by his own music, if Interscope would even allow it, because we don’t already know how the chord structure and melody is written, as we do for anything he covers. When a note is written in a familiar score, it’s simple enough to tell when the artist didn’t sing that note, but was instead sharp or flat, or picks an entirely different note to sing. (And ‘pitchy’ is a Randyism that ought not even be mentioned.) But ‘on key’ is not subjective. If one cannot tell just by listening, hit the key on a piano, blow the note on a pitch pipe, it’s either the note as written or it is not. With Phillip doing well-known covers, there’s a lot of ‘not’.

    He mentions jazz, even though I don’t hear any yet. That’s why I was looking unsuccessfully for his previous work, and that’s why I’m waiting to hear what he offers on his album. I like jazz music, very much – but I have no evidence at all that this boy knows anything about creating it. IMO.

  • Anonymous

    Is it getting more radio play?

  • Tess

    an issue of ethics and honesty

    Ethics and honesty in the recording business doesn’t seem to compute in my mind, nor do “I” feel like I’m being cheated if what I perceive doesn’t match up with the reality.  And just because voices are sometimes electronically enhanced does not make it any more “wrong” than listening to a recording where the song was recorded in dribs and drabs and then put together electronically or even years ago when Singer’s took numerous “tries” before they succeeded in getting a single version that was good enough to release.

    And prior to the days of hand-held recording devices nobody really cared if they went to a concert and the singers weren’t up to snuff….they weren’t ever going to hear that version again…it was (and still should be) about immediate gratification for the listener not posterity.

    And I don’t think many “care” or “cared” when an actor “singing” is dubbed in a movie.  The fact that Audrey Hepburn didn’t sing her songs doesn’t make the movie of My Fair Lady an ethical travesty, IMO.

    I’m not arguing the fact that many singers have pitch problems and I do feel rather “blessed” that I can’t “hear” it if they do but I know that I don’t feel cheated when I buy a recording that I know wasn’t one take live.  And I do wonder if rock n roll would have ever become successful if all rock musicians would have had to pass the “pitch” test….something tells me that most of them wouldn’t come close.

  • Anonymous

    That’s not what I heard…but ok lol

  • shell29

    Home fits Lee at least as well as it does Phillip if not more, since it seems in line with music Lee has written himself. Just reinforces my opinion that luck plays a large part in the music industry. If Lee didn’t have bad luck he wouldn’t have had any luck at all (as far as his music career-obviously not his personal life).

    Couldn’t agree more.  Lee was definitely the victim of lousy timing (among other things), winning Idol when the show was in transition.   Conversely, Phillip has been blessed with a coronation single that fits him like a glove, plus he’s fortunate to have won in an “Olympic” year and to have his single featured very prominently during one of the more popular events on NBC’s prime time coverage.  You couldn’t ask for better exposure than that.  That exposure is the biggest reason why this song has sold over 200K in the past week-not because he’s “charming” or “personable” or any of those other reasons.   We saw in the first few weeks after he won that when most people hear this song, they love it so much that they want to buy it.  Based on that history, it’s not surprising that the song sold so well after having the kind of repeated exposure it received during NBC’s primetime Olympic coverage.

  • Anonymous

    Why does one keep listening if one doesn’t like Phillip?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    All your opinion, which you are entitled to. I think that your analogy of the dubbing of singing for movie actors isn’t a valid comparison because it’s known and publicized that their voices were dubbed – no problem with ethics or honesty there. And regarding rock and roll, it’s been explained to me that singing on key doesn’t matter there, but IMO it still does. lol

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    And prior to the days of hand-held recording devices nobody really cared if they went to a concert and the singers weren’t up to snuff….they weren’t ever going to hear that version again…

    And if a live singer is consistently off-key and all over the place vocally at a show I attend, I’m grateful I will never hear that version again.

    As I’ve said before, I assume the songs chosen for P2 to record will be within the vocal range he can handle live. Any A&R person who isn’t bright enough to find that solution really should be off selling donuts so that somebody with a clue can have his or her recording-industry job.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Very well said. Thank you. :)

  • http://twitter.com/Miztig Miz

    Good for Phillip. It really is a good song and suits his voice well. I especially like the instrumentation.

  • Anonymous

    Reminder:

    Can we just accept that off pitch singing bothers some people and not others? And move on? Really.

  • Anonymous

    No surprise here – it was evident from the beginning.  He’s his own man – came through loud and clear – extremely appealing then, not only in presentation, but in looks as well.  Double whammy.

    “Home” great song on Idol, great song on DC-revisited video, and great song that appeals to Americans (especially at  Olympics time).  For me, it will grow old quickly – just not that interesting overall.

    Can understand why PP not nuts about it – definitely not his style – looking forward to his album because of that.

  • Anonymous

    Interesting conversation going on here.  I have to add my two cents and just say I think what people like in music (and singing voices) is just simply a matter of all of our dfferent personalities.  I know myself, I tend to be totally bored and lose interest in singers that are more technically perfect singers.  A singer can have the most perfect, angelic singing voice and I will be fascinated…for about a minute.  But when it comes to what I like to listen to and dance and sing along with, it’s totally about what makes me smile and all about having fun to me.  Music is fun.  It brings me joy.  But if it’s too perfect, it bores me.  Does that make sense to anyone but myself?  Or am I the only one who couldn’t care less about things like perfect pitch?  LOL

  • Anonymous

    this is its ranking on the HAC chart this morning:

    22 19 PHILLIP PHILLIPS Home 1233 1078 155 6.106+23 Spins+1 Bullet+0.168 AI 

    that is pretty consistent to what it was doing in terms prior to being heard on the Olympics, although I think the AI increase is better than it had been of late.
    So it doesn’t appear that the placement on the Olympics has had a huge immediate impact on radio play.

    Of course, since it is out of the Top 50 on the Pop chart, we don’t really know if has gotten an increase in spins in that format the last couple days.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Sure. This discussion has been very enlightening for me. I now totally understand why P2 won Idol and why so many singers who have problems singing on key are extremely popular.

  • iFoundIt

    Lee did not record Home. The Olympics did not choose Greg Holden’s version. It is Phillip’s version that will be forever tied to the winning U.S. Women’s Gymnastics team.  Phillip won Idol because the majority ruled.  He was the lone standing since the Top 7 of never having been in the bottom.

    No one is forced to listen to his music.  He won, and there is no going back to rewrite history.  For those who prefer more technically trained singers, there are several from Season 11 that can use help in their sales. 

    This is Phillip’s moment.  He should be allowed to celebrate it. 

  • Anonymous

    Reminder:

    Here’s a really fast and simple way to get banned.

    Write an angry comment lecturing people on what they should do and how they should feel.

    My delete finger will work even faster if you add “If you don’t like it, you don’t have to listen to it.”

  • dabney c

    how is the song doing on the radio right now??? you people who listen the radio, have been air played more often or not???

    I listen to a lot of radio and I’ve heard the song all of – once. It was on Ryan Seacrest’s show as an up-and-coming hit. Otherwise, it has no presence on radio here (in Canada).

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    Well, I’m returning to this conversation late, but I still want to back-peddle a bit on what I said previously about the success of “Home” being all about the song and not about Phillip.  Some of you have made me reconsider, and it’s true that even a great song can falter in the hands of someone who doesn’t have the ability to sell it.  Phillip does a great job of delivering “Home,” and he deserves credit for that. I do like Phillip, so didn’t mean my original comment as a diss. My point was that he is extremely lucky that he got saddled with a really good coronation single (unlike many former Idol winners.) I guess my thinking is that any former Idol winner could have taken that song and turned it to a hit if the  circumstances were the same. Had David Cook, Lee or Kris Allen gotten the exact same song, and had it been used in the Olympics, the song would have soared up the charts as it did for Phillip. The song is just that good.  But, at the same time, all of those guys have this in common – they are great at interpreting songs and finding the “heart” in them. 

    Anyway, I’ve got it on my iPod and am looking forward to watching Phillip perform it live in Nashville.

  • http://twitter.com/bagel08 John S

    I disliked Phillip the moment I first saw him. My dislike quickly grew into hate the more I saw and heard him.

    I don’t hate people I have never met or who have never done anything wrong…

  • blackberryharvest

     

    A singer who can’t sing on key is in the wrong business, IMO.

    Tell that to Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Rihanna, and Justin Bieber.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    I’m not sure we should be celebrating them. It kind of sucks, really.

  • Anonymous

    It’s a great song. The girls have a dream, the guy has a dream, it’s all about America!  Love it. :)

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    thx 4 answering, i hoped he could have a good promotion on radio, but apparently that was not the case. Home and whistle are tied in sales at this moment, at least it lasted a long time as #1.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t see how it can be said that any singer is in the wrong business as long as they have fans and people buying their music, since that must mean that they make people happy.  And isn’t that what all entertainers are supposed to do?  Of course no entertainer will ever please everyone since we all enjoy different things, but as long as they are pleasing enough people to make a living at it, they are definitely in the right business.  JMO

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    it happened, home is now #2. Too bad.

  • Anonymous

    I think that being off pitch on Idol is a sign of lack of technique more than an inability to sing well because the contestants have little time to rehearse. They  have to get to grip with the songs very quickly and this is not a a skill that is required in the real world and is not even representative of artistic potential.

    Once they are off Idol, and they have time to prepare for their performances at leisure, they don’t necessarily have pitch issues anymore.
    I don’t think that Lee received criticism for this post idol, and it hasn’t been mentioned for Phillip on the tour either.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sim-Ai-Khaw/100002537599337 Sim Ai Khaw

    “Home” music video is documentary like of Phillip2 life and music journey is almost like Scotty “Water tower town” too like documentary of Scotty life and music journey is great the music video .

  • Anonymous

    Congrats to P^2 for the big spike on sales for “Home”!

    Now, on with the additional commentary:

    1. I haven’t seen the gymnastics competition (here in the Philippines it is not fully buzzed) and I am sorry for USA for not getting the bronze medal even though she is tied with Russia so I couldn’t comment about the presence of the song on the Olympics.

    2. I am not sure if there is a proof that the song would only fare well with P^2 only. I feel that Kris might be successful with that song, could be the same with the other S7+ winners (it can sound country), so the debate between “singer sells song” and “song sells itself” is still on debate, and it would be interesting if other S11 finalists would sing it hehe.

    3. I am still not sure why Kris (who IMO is a more technically proficient singer than P^2 and has a nicer tone, again IMO) was not supported by the public as P^2 and I am still wondering, maybe because TPTB really focused on Adam like the Top 3 this season (let us be honest, around Top 7 Redux Jessica, Phillip and Joshua were unstoppable, and the Top 3 was quite predictable too, and they all had the support of TPTB (Jessica was depimped to prevent Lauren-like backlash)).

    4. Even though “Home” is a big hit in the US, I haven’t yet heard it here in the Philippines (then again, this is Jessica country, but even her coronation song – as unpopular as it was – doesn’t generate buzz here), and even now Cook’s TOML is still popping up once in a while, so I don’t know how this song’s progress would last in the long run.

    Overall I am quite impressed that P^2 got a home run for this song, but I think that other finalists could get the same impact as as him if the received this song, and wouldn’t put P^2 in the David Cook level just yet.

  • Anonymous

    I guess the debate here is that people are now debating the matter about Idol as a “singing competition” or as a “favorite singer competition”. I know that all-in-all Idol is a “popularity contest concerning singing”, where people are the jury that will chose who would advance to the next round. I agree about the “minimum requirements of singing”, though and these are mine: on-key most of the time (Kris, Scotty), have a nice range even if it is not big (Kris, David C.), and what is most important for me (and quite subjective) is the tone (Kris, Haley, and even Erika who just looks reserved and has an excellent tone, and even Heejun which just lacks certain technicality) and even a sense of versatility/adaptability (Kris for changing songs, Haley for genre versatility) and song connection (which Kris has and even Haley, though there were times that she doesn’t).

    One example is that as much as I don’t prefer Pia Toscano (not versatile, not much connection), I appreciate her proficiency cause it is a “singing competition” and thought that she deserves more than #9.

    So with that I don’t prefer P^2 (even though I really liked Volcano with its jazzy undertones) and like others would just circle around and around about the matter. All in all I hope this feat would encourage others to join even with the lower ratings, but hopes that someone different would show up just like every winner until S8, and that TPTB would support the non-demo contestants.

  • Karen C

    I think, though that different singers would bring something different to the song.   And even if we look at the last 5 winners, if Kris did the song, David Cook did the song, and Scotty did the song, it would probably be very different than P2’s version, and probably Lee’s version would be the most similar.   Just from seeing what they have done both on Idol and after.

    I do think that if it were the coronation song for anyone else, it would still have been popular, because it is a good song, and I think it has some versatility. Though I do think being on the Olympics does help, and will help him gain a wider audience.

  • Anonymous

    Home has picked up several new HAC stations this week, which should be reflected in the adds on Monday. However I don’t know if that’s more of a function of the song cracking the top 20 this week or the Olympics exposure. Of course both help.

    With the incredible amount of buzz and publicity Home is getting right now it is doing well and steady on the radio but not rocketing to #1. Home is seeing about the pinnacle of buzz and publicity and Idol song will ever get so I don’t understand how any other Idol is expected to generate more of a response from radio with just an ordinary single release. Of course I know the argument is their single should hit #1 just due to their mind blowing artistic ability.

  • Anonymous

    Home got a very good update today on the HAC chart. It still needs big markets to add it so hopefully some of the new stations playing it are in big cities. What new stations are playing it?

  • Anonymous

    Interesting debates.  For me, I felt P2’s music coming out of his pores, if that makes sense.  His musicality was innate.

  • Anonymous

    AI was never a singing competition.  It was always “America’s Favorite Singer.”

  • Anonymous

    “Home” got a nice bump on the HAC chart today — +45 spins and +0.177 AI,

    However, it still is getting less than half the number of spins as the song sitting at #10 on the chart (which coincidentally happens to be Kelly’s current single, Dark Side) — 1278 spins for PP, 2909 for KC. So it still has a lot of work to do if it is going to have a shot at cracking the Top 10 on HAC.

    There are 5 new stations listed on All Access as having spun the song at least 4 times so far in this reporting period — HAC stations in West Palm Beach, FL, Milwaukee, WI, Burlington, VT, Portland, OR and Greenville, SC. Of those, only Greenville hasn’t spun it enough to be an auto add on Monday (assuming these stations haven’t already added it).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S3ZGXZCUE2YYOS7QV6QSTKM4SA buffynut2001

    My opinion is that people(Olympic viewers) are buying the song, not the singer. It’s a feel good, Olympic moment. Reminds me of the whole Susan Boyle thing. It’s great for P2 though! I would love this moment for any of my favorite Idols!

  • tucker davis

    I agree. And because they came into our living room week after week, if they acted arrogant or showed very little personality, we voted them off regardless of talent. That’s what happens when you feel like you ‘know’ the contestants. As someone else has said, in the real world, the singers we respond to aren’t as exposed..we either like their songs or not. 
    To me AI is the best of all the reality shows at getting the audience invested in the contestants. It wouldn’t be nearly as successful if it just trotted the contestants out to sing and then people voted. (Wasn’t there a show years ago that did that?)To me, a lot of P2’s popularity was that he was so darn likable! (at least to the casual audience)Was he the most talented? Heck, no, and he’ll be the first to tell you that!But he does have talent and needs our support to make it. I’m going to cheer when ANY of these kids take a step toward success, whether it’s a new song, cd, part in a tv show or play, etc. They’re doing things most of us can just dream about!

  • Anonymous

    What Girlygirl said plus I know KDMX Dallas (#5 market i believe) has as well. It’s not showing up on All Access as a new station because it has spun before. However I don’t know if it has enough play for an add next week or not. So that is some bigger and mid markets (Portland and Milwaukee are sub 50 markets). But NY and LA are probably going to hold out as long as possible. And all those stations except Burlington have not added.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S3ZGXZCUE2YYOS7QV6QSTKM4SA buffynut2001

    BTW, it’s pretty easy to see how any HAC song is doing on Top 40, even if they are not in the Top 50. At All Access Radio (anyone can join) just bring up the HAC chart. Click on “Home” and it will bring up the radio “leaders” for that song. A2 stands for HAC in the URL header on your computer. Change the “A2″ to “H1″ and you will get the Top 40 info for that song. Right now Home has no “leaders.” Change the word “leaders” in the URL to “Starters” and it will give you the stations that are starting to play it. Right now Home has 3 new starters in Lafayette, LA; New Haven; & Milwaukee. There will be some stations that are neither Leaders or Starters so this method is not conclusive, but it’s better than nothing until a song reaches Top 50. And if Z100 starts spinning it, it will show on the Starters board eventually.

  • Anonymous

    I think a new station has to spin a song twice in a 7-day reporting period to make the “starters” list. But it may also depend on how many new stations start playing a song in the same reporting period. “Home” will get auto adds from the CHR stations in Lafayette & New Haven that started spinning it this week. It needs another spin from the Milwaukee station to get to the 7 spins that generally is the magic # in terms of auto adds.

    You can see what songs individual stations are playing by using the “stations” tab on All-Access. KDMX has spun “Home” 8 times so far in this reporting period (they spun it just once in the last reporting period) — so they should officially add it on Monday.

  • Karen C

    As someone else has said, in the real world, the singers we respond to aren’t as exposed..we either like their songs or not.

    I think this is the biggest difference between new artists that are launched through Idol and those that are not.  When  a new artist is normally launched, and their song becomes a hit, usually we know little or nothing about the artist at first.  If they become popular and well known, it’s because their song became a hit.  From AI, we know the singer before, what they were like on the show, and have some idea of what kind of music they want to do, but until their original albums come out we don’t always know what kind of music they are putting out. They still do well in most cases, because of their popularity on the show, but not necessarily because they had a big hit single that really broke them through.   Maybe that is part of the problem with radio play, and that the record companies aren’t really promoting them like they would normally for new artists.   

  • Anonymous

    Ahh good idea, I hadn’t thought to check the station on All Access. That is a good way to cross reference spins, thanks!

  • http://twitter.com/ItsMyT1me Lori

    I keep reading about how “lucky” Phillip is for having Home handed to him. This is nothing new. Here are just a few other “lucky” Idols who had platinum selling singles handed to them.

    Time of My Life AND Light On – David Cook
    Live Like We’re Dying – Kris Allen
    Whaddaya Want From Me – Adam Lambert

    Personally, I’m glad these guys were lucky enough to have these songs handed to them. Radio, at least for me, was better for it.

  • Anonymous

    Oh lordy, I’m not a huge fan of this song but I just woke up from a nap with
    “gonna make this house your home.”

  • Anonymous

    They played Home again on the Olympics tonight, previewing the final upcoming womens gymnastics event.

  • rodolfochengcanepa

    “I´m going to make this place your home”

  • Anonymous

    I saw it.  Are there more women’s gymnastic events?  I thought it was finished.  It was great to hear “Home” in any case.

  • hayes

    The individual apparatus finals. Each event has at least one American girl competing still, so maybe NBC will still play Home, especially because of the reception it has gotten.

  • Anonymous

    they didn’t play “Home” during the individual all-around finals, and there were 2 American girls in that (won gold and finished tied for 3rd). So I have my doubts they will use the song during the individual event finals — it seems to have been used simply for the team event.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not a fan of P2, but I do like the song. It’s interesting as I believe no other coronation song has followed the success arc of “Home” that is, Having a sudden resurgence 3 months later.

  • http://twitter.com/ItsMyT1me Lori

    They used Home at least twice again last night, maybe three times. I caught short bios for both McKayla and Gabby and each one used Home as background music. I’m not sure, I think I might have heard it a third time when I was coming back from commercial break during the competition. So it looks like they may stick with Home through the event finals that continue on Monday and then conclude on Tuesday. What a nice run for Phillip and Home.

    BTW, Home is still at #2 after Sunday night’s exposure but it has gained in the popularity bars. It is currently at 85% of Flo Rida’s sales.