Paula Abdul: Not Likin’ a Fourth Judge. Plus: Kara DioGuardi–”I Was Disappointed By Her Comments”

Kara only gave one useful comment last week (and that was to Anne Marie about singing “Love Song”). Other than that, she was just completely useless.

I say get rid of her (or Randy, whichever) and use that extra money to bring the band up front!

Kara would add something if she had some sort of musical/industry expertise. But I’m not seeing any evidence of that. She doesn’t offer any real insights, even though she takes a lot of time to give her reviews.

Kara is more articulate than Paula, but Paula actually seems to have a much keener eye for talent and is simply a better judge.

I didn’t see a need to add a 4th judge.

I agree that it takes too much time to go through all four of the judges comments. I was totally bored. Maybe they could alternate and not have everyone critique every singer. I would always like Simon to comment, but then maybe they could always have three judges comment (or even 2), and alternate between Randy, Paula and Kara.

I was pretty neutral/positive about Kara until last week’s show, but the whole table-pounding fit she threw after Danny’s performance, coupled with the generally uninformative comments for the rest of the contestants, made me question what value she is adding to the show. I mean, when you’re making Paula look restrained and insightful…

I agree, while I think Kara at times does offer some good advice. The judging portion is dragging. I don’t know if it is the addition of Kara, the backlash from the media, or the producers, but this season so far Paula has been on her game (aside from the Danny “sold out arenas” nonsense). To be quite honest, Paula, with all the criticism she recieves, if you look back since season 1. She tends to be right way more than the other judges.
Randy so far has proven himself to be the dead weight.

So, are they gearing up to fire a judge? Is this what the press is about? If so, I’m guessing its not Pauler or Simon. Dare I hope for Randy?

At the outset I didn’t like that the judges took too long as it was, and another talking head would just take away from performance time.

I read somewhere that Kara’s made a point not to read her own press. I think she should… if only on the hope that she’s smart enough to understand the critiques and make adjustments to make herself useful.

I kind of agree with her, so let’s get rid of Paula, she is a weekly train wreck and truly adds nothing of value to the show.

I would have to agree. The fourth judge is not needed.

I think Randy is the weakest link. I like Kara. I LOVE Simon and if he ever quit the show I wouldn’t watch it anymore. Paula and Simon as a duo are really entertaining, but it is not working this year with the addition of Kara. Something has to give.

get rid of randy. have him migrate over to his beloved ABDC.

Paula says the same thing to all of them, “this is your moment”, or the latest bombshell from the first show – “we really don’t know who you are as an artist”….she offers nothing useful or constructive. If she thinks the show clunks along with 4 judges, then she should leave.

Paula may have her catch phrases, but all of the judges do. It is easy to target her because of her behavior, but in all honestly. Her assesements are the most dead on honest. When she over praises someone, it is usually because their performance as compared to THEMSELVES was praise worthy. If she says “we really don’t know who you are as an artist”. That is a pretty specific critique. Its says that you came across as generic, and instead of appealing to a mass audience with cross over appeal, it means that they have no main niche to be identified with, thus there is no genres to cross over, since there is no starting point. Just average and dispensible.

Paula has some good moments but her mushy gushing gets hard to take. I’d be fine to have 3 judges if she left but I like Kara. Perhaps it’s time for a quick sentence or 2 from each of them instead of going on and on which even Simon is guilty of.

How do we know anything credible Pauler has had to say wasn’t feed to her by the producers? No, I haven’t forgotten Paula-gate.

By the same token, I’m not sure Randy has ever had a credible critique. He also has a narrow musical focus.

I doubt they’d ever fire Pauler. Probably not Randy either. Just a pipe dream.

If they go back to three judges I’d like to see the show ditch Randy. Kara usually agrees with him but is more articulate in explaining herself (except when she’s drooling over and worshipping at the feet of the SadInspirationalWidowerDanny). I wouldn’t miss the “dude, dawg, that was HOT!” critiques that are ultimately meaningless.

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And the ultimate Dawgism, “That was not good for you, for me.” I wait with bated breath each year for the first one of those.

I wonder if Randy, Paula and Simon are getting together to have private bitch sessions about Kara.

I imagine Ryan sits in on those sessions as well. He’s quite the gossip.

Kara’s like the new baby in the family. The older siblings usually don’t like the new one until she’s been around a while, and they realize they can’t get rid of her. She’s still figuring it all out, but this boring season really isn’t doing her any favors.

Either way, I still see no point in her being there.

I don’t care if Randy says “molten hot lava bomb” 5011 times, he’s still part of the dysfunctional family. Bringing Kara in is like bringing Brian Dunkleman back.

I hope they dump Kara at the end of the season. She fooled me the first week of auditions into thinking she was going to be an interesting and intelligent addition to the panel. She’s not, she’s just annoying, loud and a waste of time. I’d vote her off, they don’t need her.

I think Kara is useless at this moment. She is not bringing anything new to the panel.
I just don’t like her much. It’s a bit boring and long with her, I agree with Simon.

I always thought the original three judges format, love them or hate them have always worked.
If it ain’t broke why fix it?

The four judge format puts too much focus on the judges and not enough on the contestants. To make matters worse, Randy-Paula-Kara say the same thing 90% of the time (with varying degrees of eloquence). I don’t see Paula going anywhere, her loopiness has become an integral part of the show.

I had hopes for Kara, but I dislike the girlish byplay between her and Paula and her cheerleading for the favored contestants, both of which are undermining her credibility. And while she clearly has a lot of background, she hasn’t figured out how to use it in her judging comments. Seriously, I could sit there and say “you’re the whole package” as a code phrase for “you’re attractive”. If she can find her feet (and that’s a big if to me at this point) I’d vote for Randy to go.

Randy was my least favorite judge.. until Kara came along. I just feel like she’s not unique enough.

I leaped on the Kara bandwagon prematurely. I liked her because I thoughtshe was going to bring some depth to the critiques being a singer herself. I did not think she was going to be redundant. I also didn’t think she was going to be competitive with the female contestants. I wrote a few weeks ago that sometimes it seems as though Kara wants to be on the show, not on the judges panel. Furthermore, her display last week shows that she can be used to rubber stamp others opinion and not have a clear one of her own so many times.

Simon goes and the show is done. I think same for Paula, because while she does speak the same language, she makes the best critiques once you learn Paula speak. She also spoke up for Ricky last week and that was admirable. I like Randy and he knows a good singer when he sees one, and once he likes you he will not abandon you. While his vocab isn’t genius level, his eye for talent is. If anyone should leave, it has to be Kara.

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Amen!

I aggre with Simon and Paula… I hope we can say good bye to Kara next year

If they had to dump one, I’d choose Randy or Kara. I have to agree with others that Randy is useless and rarely adds anything of value to the critiques. Kara was useless last week.

When Paula is not completely out of it, I honestly think she has a pretty good eye for talent. She does go overboard sometimes, like last week with Danny, but other than that I found her pretty spot on. I hate to admit it sometimes, but I tend to agree with her opinions. When she’s not imagining fake performances that is.

Plus I think you need the “nice” judge and none of the others are going to fill that role.

But I also agree with you MJ. A fourth judge can work, but the rest just need to talk less. Or at least Randy and Paula. And Kara needs to do more than say she agrees with Randy.

I have to agree that Kara needs to go. When it was just the three of them, they had great chemistry…especially Simon and Paula. I could do without the yo dawgs, yo dude, etc coming from Randy but if they got rid of Kara, I wouldn’t complain.

You know what slows down the pace of the show, Paula? Useless rambling commentary from ANY judge (especially YOU), pointless sniping between judges (whether scripted or spontaneous), and boring filler segments like the post-performance chats with family and friends.

How about this? Let each kid sing for 1 minute 45 seconds, have each judge give 30 second critiques, throw in 15 minutes for Ryan, 30 minutes for commercials, and you can still finish one of these early group episodes in 90 minutes.

The judges have been doing this for over 7 seasons. Surely they can come up with 30 second critiques with minimal effort by now.

I wrote a few weeks ago that sometimes it seems as though Kara wants to be on the show, not on the judges panel.

Exactly.

I love Kara, but I don’t think she’s right for the show. 3 judges is what America is used to, and it’s too late in the game for a change. Plus, they have such great chemistry, and it seems like Kara is throwing that off.

Randy and Paula don’t get enough credit a lot of the time. Yes, they don’t seem to contribute much on the judging panel, but Randy is “mad-talented, dawg” when it comes to finding talent,producing, etc. Paula brings a singer’s perspective to the panel and she definately knows about stage presence. And of course, we all love Simon.

In my oppinion, 3 judges is all they need. And wouldn’t it be great publicity for the show if they got rid of Kara? Ken Warwick, don’t tell me you didn’t think of that. :wink_wp:

Is a cat fight not far behind?

“ACCESS EXCLUSIVE: Kara DioGuardi ‘Disappointed’ By Paula Abdul’s ‘Idol’ CommentsFollowing Paula Abdulà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s comments that she doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think the idea of four judges on à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  was such a good idea, Kara DioGuardi, who joined à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  this year as the fourth member on the judging panel, is firing back.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Paula has a right to her opinions, but I was disappointed by her comments, and hurt that she did not address them to me in person,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Kara said in an exclusive statement to Access Hollywood.”

Blah! It’s starting to look like another publicity stunt now. Get some more people in Kara’s corner.

BTW, here is the link for that ^ story.

I wouldn’t miss Randy or Paula. Can we get the judges that were on NGAB?

tonight is 2 hrs. awesome. norman. adam.

and seacrest mediating a fight between paula and kara.

Come to think of it, isn’t it a little bit fishy that Kara and Paula supposedly had no fights the whole time they lived together, and they pick now to have their first one? Publicly? It just seems strange to me.

I was disappointed by her comments, and hurt that she did not address them to me in person.

I’m trying to imagine exactly how that conversation would have gone.

Wow, i’m surprised by all the Randy hate. He’s an indispensable part of the show at this point.

I prefer Kara over Paula.

In fairness to both Randy and Paula, both do a decent job of picking out talent during the opening auditions and can usually look past someone’s geeky clothes or ugly hairdo to notice quality singing. Simon tends to get stronger during the semis and finals, when they’re looking for a more polished product. Kara hasn’t done anything to make herself indispensable. Having a fourth judge has really throw off the chemistry. Yes, the other judges have their tired sayings and tend to just throw random comments to contestants they don’t care about, but they do have chemistry together. Kara’s presence has screwed up the vibe. If anyone has to go, it should be her because she’s the new girl on the block. Of course, that depends on whether Paula wants to come back next year–I think her contract is up after this season.

You know what slows down the pace of the show, Paula? Useless rambling commentary from ANY judge (especially YOU), pointless sniping between judges (whether scripted or spontaneous), and boring filler segments like the post-performance chats with family and friends.

Yeah, I agree. Who is the most long winded? Who is the one who talks and talks and says absolutely nothing? Who can’t form a sentence, gets flustered and babbles away? Paula. At least Kara can talk. She may or may not add anything new but she is fairly concise as are Simon and Randy. I think it is way too early to make a decision about the judges. We’ve only seen them on one “live” show. All the other shows have been edited.

And I have to laugh when Paula talks about the flow of the show. This from the woman who critiques a non-existent performance. Paula needs to worry about keeping her own act together and let those who don’t live in their medicine cabinets worry about the show.

I like inarticulate judges so I say keep Randy. It’s kind of fun to figure out WTF he is talking about. And Paula is kind of crazy sometimes, but I like that she at least tries to say something positive. But she does need to redeem herself this week after the whole Gokey overboard sold out arenas crap last week. And Simon is Simon.

I tried to be fair to Kara until she had that ‘sing out’ demonstration on how to sing the song during the auditions. I then decided she is an idiot. They should just get rid of her.

I agree that 4 judges are too much.. it gets boring. Paula needs to shorten up her “speeches” and it will go smoother.

Well, I’ll take Kara over Paula, and Paula over Randy. So If one should go, it’s Randy. He is 100% useless, and his presence is pointless. I wouldn’t miss him one bit. NEXT!

When I first heard there was going to be a 4th judge, I didn’t like the idea. But I decided to give her a chance. At the beginning when she was ragging on bikini girl, I liked her and thought she was going to be like a female Simon. But after that, she fell flat and now doesn’t stand out. As for Paula leaving, nooooooooo! That woman is just good tv. I’d rather have her than Kara any day.

I wouldn’t miss Randy. At least Kara speaks English, not Dawg-ese.

And I also wouldn’t miss Paula. At least Kara can coherently read the notes that TPTB give her. Or maybe they don’t really give her notes because she can talk without babbling.

I think Paula needs to take a look inward before she starts hating on other people.

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I agree. Randy is apart of the Idol family and I think that he definitely has his place there. IMO, if he or Paula left the show it just wouldn’t be the same without them. I know that he can be repetitive, and he sometimes he doesn’t give the best critciques but I do like him. I feel the same way about Paula.

And I think that they both give good advice sometimes, and have proved their usefulness in the past quite a few times.

If if weren’t for Randy and Paula, Chris Daughtry, Taylor Hicks, and David Cook wouldn’t have made it to the top 12 of their respective seasons. Chris and Taylor wouldn’t have even made it past the first audition. These were people that Simon said had lack charisma, or shouldn’t be in the spotlight, but Paula and Randy saw the potential in each of them and saved them, along with some other contestants.

I think that a lot of the time, Randy and Paula can see past the exterior of a person, recognize a good voice, and see the potential in some people, that Simon doesn’t really see early on.

And IMO there are times, when they also accurately compare various contestants to famous singers, who the contestants sound like. I think that Paula and Randy do contribute to the show in their own ways, and I would like to see them remain on the show along with Simon.

As far as Kara goes, I don’t really care that much about her one way or the other. I don’t dislike her, but I don’t love her either. I don’t think that she has made that much of an impression on the panel, and I agree with those that feel that a fourth judge wasn’t necessary.

Kara is more articulate than Paula, but Paula actually seems to have a much keener eye for talent and is simply a better judge.

Word. Paula behaves strangely at times but when she’s on, she’s spot on. I remember agreeing with her comments most of the time. Simon is entertaining but misguided. And Randy is just boring. Kara – I like her but I don’t think she’s needed on the show… AI wouldn’t feel like AI w/o Paula imo.

With Kara now responding it definitely appears to be a total publicity stunt. They probably hope to get lapsed viewers tuning in tonight to look for tension between the judges. Same old, same old. I guess they figured even with Normund that tonight’s group didn’t have the interest level of last weeks Tatiana/DeadWifeDanny group.

definitely a public relations stunt. Paula has been begging since season one for more estrogen, and was close to quitting because she felt put upon by the boys and not able to express her opinion. I don’t see that now that she has it she’s thinking its a bad idea.

UPDATE: OMG Bitch Fight!

Get we get you to be one of the judges ;D

I will take Kara over Randy any day, and even over Paula… I think she is lacking confidence at this point but even so she has more current knowledge of the industry than Paula… was is her background … crappy dancing and even crappier singing…

cruzceleste, I agree. Kara bring much needed credibility to the judges panel. She makes them be more coherent.

Get rid of them all, except Simon, and start over.

I think that a lot of the time, Randy and Paula can see past the exterior of a person, recognize a good voice, and see the potential in some people, that Simon doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really see early on.

Exactly. I think they operate as a team.

Simon can’t do it alone. If he did, they’d all look like Leona and sing like Il Divo.

I think it was rude of Paula and Simon to talk about Kara and the 4 judge situation in interviews. That wasn’t fair to Kara.

Having 4 judges does slow things down. But getting rid of Kara isn’t automatically the only solution. I don’t think she’s been given a fair chance after only a few shows. The other judges have been doing this for 7 years already.

They’ve all had their bad moments. One season Randy said nothing but “Kelly Kelly Kelly,” “Tamyra Tamyra Tamyra” etc. Other seasons he said nothing but “Pitchy” or “dawg” or “I’m not feeling it.” He’s finally getting articulate now but it took him a few years.

Paula has had plenty of chances. Times she was wasted, drunk, loaded, or all three. Times she was incoherent and nonsensical. Not to mention all the times that Paula and Simon behave like kindergartners.

Kara’s knowledgeable and a cool person. She seems like a good sport and a fighter. Not a wimp. It wasn’t fair of the producers to hire her and then not make it work with 4 judges. Not fair of the other judges to disparage her in the media. Those are cheap shots.

Naturally Kara hasn’t hit her stride yet. It has to be hard to break into that group of three who have been together for 7 years. I like her and say, give it time, and give her a chance. The other judges have had plenty of chances to be idiots and they’re still there.

I didn’t read the full articles or quotes from Paula and Simon, but did they name Kara by name, or did they just express concerns about 4 judges? Perhaps Randy and not Kara should be taking offense. Or since Ryan is doing sooooooooooooo many other jobs, move Randy or Kara to the hosting spot and move Seacrest out. lol Sorry, I had to.

Maybe they didn’t mention her name, but since she’s the new judge, making her the 4th judge, the comments reflect on her, and she must have thought so too or she wouldn’t have responded on AH. It seemed thoughtless of them to speak like that so careless of her feelings, but that is typical of Idol.

At least Randy didn’t do the same thing. He has some class.

I like Kara. There are times when she’s on point, and the others aren’t. In general, she seems to be the most reasonable and coherent of the bunch.

Paula, hush. Just…hush.

I think AI needs Kara as a back-up for Paula. I am not so sure that Paula will be there for the final season. Having said that, I would not miss Randy. I believe he can be replaced. Maybe in the next season or two?

I think the kinks in the four judge panel can be worked out.

I don’t even listen to Paula & Randy anymore. Their incoherent, excruciatingly repetitive comments are the worst part of the show for me.

I usually am interested in what Simon has to say, even though Paula and Randy and the studio audience so often stop him from completing his thoughts.

I like Kara, and I think she brings a fresh new perspective. She’d probably sound that way to more people if they ever let her talk first.

It’s a little unprofessional for the other judges to be making public comments like this about Kara. And, it all sounds a bit too middle school, we’re not going to let her sit at the cool kids table to me.

I guess Paula’s still angling for that bigger contract. If I were running this show, I’d let her contract expire and then laugh at her, hoping for a grade A crybaby meltdown.

I think that actually, Paula and Randy are more coherent and articulate this year and last year than they were all the years before. I like that they both know music and feel it in their bones. I don’t like it when Randy says the same thing every time, but he seems to be changing that now. I don’t like it when Paula acts childish with Simon, or rambles, or is too pollyanna, but other times she has excellent feedback. She’s very uneven though.

Yeah I agree, Kara is giving constructive feedback. She’s a little too “nice” right now but after awhile she’ll find the right groove.

I’m liking Simon more this year so far, he’s giving honest feedback without being gratuitiously mean. And I appreciate that. Hope it lasts.

SpenserJ. As usual, I agree with everything you said.

Randy = useless. Paula = useless. Simon at least has constructive or useful comments some of the time. And I like Kara. She seems to actually be interested in saying something relevant (Dead Wives Club guy aside).

Paula looks looped in that picture. I shouldn’t really make a judgment on whether she is on something. Whether she is or not, her incoherent rambling shouldn’t be allowed on the show. It’s not entertaining for me At All. I really wonder if they could ever take a poll would she be someone that the general public thinks is essential to the show. The few people that I know who watch Idol find her annoying and nauseating. The same goes for Randy. Simon has a part to play and even though he is hated – it’s a good schtick. Paula and Randy have no schtick. Using out of date urban dictionary shit is stupid and incoherent rambling is a waste of time.

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