Nigel Lythgoe: Why You Be Hating on Lee DeWyze? (Update: Nigel Calls Lee a Liar)

UPDATE: Nigel tweets Friday morning, “I don’t wish to continue the @leedewyze story. True, he wasn’t asked to sing but Lee knows he was asked to present the trophy a week before.” Ugh Nigel…if you don’t want to continue the story…why are you tweeting about it? Nigel is basically calling Lee a liar!

UPDATE 2: Lee tweets a response: I have no hard feelings towards Nigel, Idol, or anyone else. I love music, and that’s what I’m going to focus on. I support American Idol…and all it has done for me. I respect the decisions made for the Finale, and hope alls well that ends well. Thank you guys for everything:)

I have no idea what really went down behind the scenes when TPTB put together the finale, but I will say, in this twitter volley between Nigel and Lee, Lee’s comes off as the guy taking the high road…

***

There’s been a ton of controversy surrounding Lee DeWyze’s absence from last night’s American Idol finale. Typically, the reigning champ appears at the finale– whether to sing or pass the baton to the new winner in some fashion.

When Lee told fans a couple of days ago, that he was not asked to sing at this year’s finale, folks were pretty upset. His brother, Mike in particular let loose with some invective, calling the situation bullsh*t–going as far as to call Idol producers  “scumbags”.  He later deleted his angrier tweets and apologized. But heh–that was nothing compared to what Lee’s fans had to say to Nigel!

Maybe it was the abuse at the hands of Idol fans that led the American Idol producer  to tweet this strange message in the wee hours of Thursday morning: “I was so upset Lee DeWyze wouldn’t present the winners trophy to Scotty. Especially as he’d been on the show this Season. I guess he was shy.”

What the heck? Never has a reigning Idol taken the stage to present the new winner with a trophy, so what was Nigel talking about? Finally, Lee took to twitter tonight to set the story straight:

Hey everyone, first off I want to say congrats to Scotty & Lauren, awesome job. Well done Scotty! Secondly, just for the record… I was not asked to be involved in the Finale. It wasn’t until about 2 minutes before they announced that Nigel had approached me and asked if he could “borrow” me for a second. I didn’t feel a last second jump on stage was appropriate. It was Scotty’s moment.I appreciate American Idol, and the opportunity it has given me. And the people who have made that show possible. I am not angry, or bitter etc. It was an amazing Finale, and I would have loved to be a part of it. I just wasnt asked.Good luck to all the Contestants and stay true to yourself. Thanks everyone for your support, tour coming up… Good times I’ll talk to you all soon. Love ya!

It’s important to note that Nigel was not executive producer of American Idol during Lee’s season. Maybe that’s why it’s been easy for Nigel to be so dismissive of the Season 9 winner. Nigel wants to pretend that Season 9 never happened. But it did, and as such, it should have been acknowledged last night, in some way, as the crown passed. And no, Nigel. some half-assed idea to drag poor Lee onstage at the last minute counts. I don’t blame Lee one bit for turning him down.

  • blissful

    Not a fan of Lee, but he’s showing way more class than Nigel.

  • HermeticallySealed

    Class and Nigel are not words I typically associate together, even before he returned to Idol.

  • jacquesthedog

    Lee is polite and gracious to everyone he meets, and I mean everyone. Remember how “bitter” old Simon would always say how nice Lee was—well guess what, it is true. I have met him, lots of his fans have met him..he is nothing but polite. He did the right thing. But, when it comes to Nigel Lythgoe, @dizzyfeet the word “opportunistic scumbag” comes to mind.

  • stay4awhile

    HUGE fan of Lee, and I couldn’t be more proud of him if he had taken the stage and given a performance that blew everyone away! Lee always rises above all the BS people take such pleasure in spewing at him. Class act, all the way.

  • http://idolstages.com Connie D.

    My blood is boiling again over this, since Lee put the whole story out there for us.

    The only thing I can figure is that it’s a culture thing. Maybe only a Brit would think it was okay to invite Lee onto the stage at the last minute.

  • http://twitter.com/lindsav adamland

    Lee showed that he has more class in his pinky finger than Nigel does in his whole body. Good call Lee, no previous Idol winner has ever handed out the trophy let alone be asked 2 minutes before while sitting in the audience. Lee was right that moment was Scotty’s moment not the outgoing Idol’s to horn in on. Nigel is a jerk in every sense of the word.

  • poster

    Good points, MJ. Seriously…I think if it weren’t for bad luck Lee would have no luck at all. I commend him for showing such class in his actions and his tweet. And as someone who is the most recent one to experience the final moment, he’s right—-it was Scotty’s moment and definitely not the time to bring Lee up after not even mentioning him the entire rest of the night. Good for Lee for making it about the contestants….something Nigel could learn from.

  • kvwicks13

    This is the first time Lee used Twitlonger to tweet to his fans. I’m so glad he told his side of the story. Lee you are both classy and talented, love ya!

  • koshka

    Not a fan of Lee, but he’s showing way more class than Nigel.

    words out of my mouth.

  • ItsMyT1me

    Thanks MJ for this article. Nigel’s tweets, not just about Lee but all the other tweets calling his audience morons, etc., just demonstrate what a jerk he is. I’d be pretty surprised if there is anyone who would think Nigel’s behavior was appropriate or that Lee’s wasn’t. Case closed as far as I’m concerned. Now that Lee’s reign is over, it really can be all about the music for him and I’m sure he’s grateful for that!

  • edisto

    You cannot ask someone to perform a function on a rehearsed show at the last minute. If Lee had gone up there and done it people would have made a mockery of him. I am proud to be a Lee fan and proud of the way he has handled himself. I think Lythgoe is a) a miserable person deep inside, b) has the reputation of not being a particularly kind person and c) maybe he was in his cups when he tweeted that message. He was looking to hugely embarrass this young man and take great delight in doing so.

  • GwendolynD

    Poor Lee. :( He’s certainly the better man here.

  • Grammie Kari

    That last minute thing was probably because of all the negative feedback from Idol fans – particularly those of Lee. So, Lee has to go out there and get an excellent album, so he’ll be asked to return next year to sing.

    Nigel was being a real jerk about this.

  • lovingadam

    lee, classy guy =)

  • Trina

    I give Lee a lot of credit for being so decent and I’m glad he put the real story out there.

    I’ll be honest though, after taking a look at some of the tweets sent to Nigel, I cringed a little. Yes hes obnoxious, and an ass, but people calling him a “piece of shit” is way worse than him calling fans morons IMO.

  • Landmd

    Thank you Mj, well said!! Well said Lee Dewyze you are a talented classy guy!!

    I knew Nigel was just being a jerk just like he is most days!

  • girlygirl

    Not a fan of Lee’s, but he has shown so much class with all this. Much more so than Nigel — who doesn’t seem to understand what a disrespectful jerk he’s being (or just doesn’t care). Totally on Lee’s side here.

  • Keel

    Even before Lee’s explanation, I thought Nigel Lythgoe’s tweet about Lee was just about the most passive aggressive cowardly piece of sh*t I had read on Twitter in a very long time.

  • Nina1

    Face it. Nigel is expedient and amoral, he will say or do anything that serves his purpose and is an all-around loathesome person; that is why I am not watching SYTYCD right now. When he asked Lee to present, I’m quite sure Nigel anticipated a refusal.

    Nigel’s attempts to justify himself in the power imbalance that is Idol are particularly sinister.

  • wjmtv

    Dear Lee’s Mom,

    You done good.

    Sincerely,

    wjm

  • Kirkee

    I have a lot of respect for Lee DeWyze. Nigel is an ass.

  • chicksineggz

    Okay, most of the time when Nigel tweets people and calls them morons, I think it’s hilarious. And it’s cool that he doesn’t take himself too seriously. But snubbing Lee? And then trying to cover it up with that tweet? That’s just wrong. Way to be a jerk, Nigel.

  • Kitwana

    Trina says:
    05/26/2011 at 8:33 pm

    I’ll be honest though, after taking a look at some of the tweets sent to Nigel, I cringed a little. Yes hes obnoxious, and an ass, but people calling him a “piece of shit” is way worse than him calling fans morons IMO.

    Actually, “piece of shit” is about right. I sort of liked the humble Nigel better when SYTYCD was being routinely trounced in the ratings by America’s Got Talent. I think his not inviting Lee to be on the final was just a sign of his arrogance. He saved Idol, Idol is the #1 show on T.V. – why should he care about Lee DeWyze. The fan outrage probably forced his hand to give the last minute invite which Lee was right to turn down. For Nigel to then tweet about it and imply that Lee was wrong without indicating the last minute nature of the invite is insane. Did he really think that Lee would say nothing?

    I have to ask where 19M is in all of this. I’m still surprised that they did not get Lee on the Finale. Besides that though, why did 19M not immediately issue a press release responding to Nigel’s tweet? Lee needs new management.

  • Weebs787

    Really glad Lee cleared this up, his Twitter fans were getting really riled up over it! Hopefully it will chill down now. He’s shown alot of class with this. I still wish Mike and Jonna would’ve kept their mouths shut and let Lee handle it. I understand wanting to defend your brother/boyfriend, but that really only fueled Nigel’s (and more importantly the fans) fire. But you live and you learn. I’m sure this was a nice lesson for everyone involved, except Nigel; who still probably sees nothing wrong in this.

  • yaddabing

    Why don’t we just blame Ken??

  • hypertwink

    Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to the kingdom of your Dark Lord Voldemort.

  • fanaround

    I think it would be a cute tradition to have the reigning idol present that mic trophy. I don’t think it would distract from previous winners any more than Mr. Edward Boddington getting the last 30 seconds of the spotlight – just a silly tradition. But I don’t blame Lee for turning it down if they asked him during the final commercial break to run up on stage without any preparation and try to step into a very tightly choreographed show where Lauren and Scotty would not be expecting him.

  • shell29

    Very classy of Lee considering the way he was disrespected. He’s definitely the better man in this situation.

  • larc

    If Nigel didn’t ask Lee to take part in the coronation festivities until the last minute, that’s just wrong. I don’t blame Lee for turning him down. Judging from his explanation, he probably turned Nigel down in a far nicer way than I would have.

  • briguyx

    Remember, this was the tenth anniversary season of “Idol,” yet there was not one mention of the past seasons of the show on the finale (aside from Carrie’s appearance). I’d guess this was because last year, they had all the Idols return to salute Simon, plus they didn’t want to show any footage of the old judges panel. A clean slate, so to speak. And let’s face it, everyone knows Lee didn’t do very well saleswise.

    It seemed to me that it took a much longer time for the confetti to come down once the announcement of the winner was made last night. Maybe once they got past the 10:00 hour, they needed to stretch the show to make an even number of minutes and Nigel got the idea of bringing up Lee on the fly. It’s Lee’s decision not to go up, but that doesn’t mean Nigel is awful for asking. For all of the talk of TPTB and conspiracies, Nigel has one goal: to make the best TV show possible!

  • jammasta

    It would’ve been an amazing tradition to have the reigning winner give the trophy to the next one. Umm, can we just make a video of this happening? I want all 10 winners together for some super-amazing Idol promotion or some silly amazing crap again.

    Not the biggest fan of Lee, but he is certainly the better man in this situation. Way to respond with class.

  • desiree_chick

    I just tweeted to Lee just what a class act he is. I hope he responds. :)

  • colette

    As one of the many AI fans who were disappointed in the show this year, I would have been delighted to see a little less of Lopez-Gaga etc. and more of some of the winners of yore — particularly Kris Allen, but also Lee, Fantasia, Kelly, Cook (though he’s had a lot of airtime recently on Idol).

    Yeah, it was a glitzy fun finale in some ways, but for me the show is going in a weird direction — disown the former winners, unless they’ve sold a gazillion records, and do stereo-mind with Beyonce and Gaga’s heavily sexualized performances on one end, and the devout, clean-scrubbed kids on the other, without so much (musically and ethnically) between the two. It was all too predictable, like the season itself….

  • steph6449

    It’s Lee’s decision not to go up, but that doesn’t mean Nigel is awful for asking.

    Yeah, I don’t think it was terrible of Nigel to ask Lee to appear, even if at the last minute.

    But it was cheesy that Nigel publicly tweeted about it later, unless there was more to it than has come to light. But then, I thought it was a little off earlier in the week, too, when Lee publicly tweeted that he hadn’t been asked to perform.

    Sometimes things just don’t need to be said to the entire universe in public, lol.

  • Inconnu

    Ditto everyone.

    I used to be very loyal to this show but they’ve sickened me with this move.

  • Ladydove2

    What a class act Lee, your mom raised you right. I am so proud to be a fan!

  • larc

    Since this was the 10th season of Idol, Lee should have been on stage along with the other eight previous winners when this year’s winner was announced. Ryan should have introduced each year’s winner in order and one at a time. Then Scotty could have gone to stand with them as #10. It would have been an appropriate recognition of past seasons, but it wouldn’t have been anything Nigel could have slapped together at the last minute.

  • Miss Chaos

    Could Ryan have turned around when Lee was directly behind him on camera and say, Oh Hi Lee, last years winner? I have no feeling either way for Lee, but what if next year Scotty was sitting in the audience at the final, behind Ryan, and they just went on to ignore Scotty? This is really bad, no matter how much Lee sold or not. Would they have paid attention to him if he sold millions of albums????

  • tigervixxxen

    Nigel was probably reading his tweets last night and saw people upset at Lee’s treatment, why else would it be such a last minute thing? Come on, they didn’t even ask Lee to present Scotty and Lauren with the Ford car keys like DC and Kris had done. That would have been an easy way to involve Lee without having him perform.

    I find it funny the entire season of the show launched around the 9 winners and the “welcome home” promo and its finale was the furthest away from that sentiment. Idol is still a successful show but it’s greatest failure is in not recognizing it’s greatest strength lies in the tradition and nostalgia it has accumulated over 10 years. I get Nigel wants to create an awards show atmosphere with the finale and they had a lot better guest stars than in th years past. But nothing is stopping other shows, especially Xfactor, from doing the same. What the other shows don’t have is the tradition and the history.

    And finally, I admire what Lee said and that he took the high road but also explained his side of the story. I know nothing in life and certainly the music industy isn’t fair and I’m proud of the grace Lee has shown in the face of continued adversity.

  • Weebs787

    Would they have paid attention to him if he sold millions of albums????

    Yes. If this were an Adam or a Cook in this situation, Nigel would’ve acknowledged them at the very least. If not, there would’ve been a shit storm from the Glamberts and Cooktards far worse than the Lee fans. (rightfully so) I, honestly, felt like Nigel thought he’d get away with this without anybody caring. Then people got word of this, Lee fans or not, and he was getting some bad press and decided to try to paint Lee as the bitter ex-Idol who refused to play the game.

  • weese

    Lee, you are the better man. Nigel–grow a heart that doesn’t pump ratings and money. Kinder, gentler Idol? Not for Lee Dewyze and Haley Reinhardt. Stay strong Chicago kids for some reason I don’t think your paths are going to get any easier.

  • larc

    steph6449 says:
    Yeah, I don’t think it was terrible of Nigel to ask Lee to appear, even if at the last minute.

    If Nigel doesn’t have a good enough mind for planning so he doesn’t need to resort to last minute ideas for a major TV show, then maybe somebody else should be responsible for putting it together.

  • CSFan

    Would they have paid attention to him if he sold millions of albums????

    Yes they would have, but he didn’t sell millions and it’s clear Nigel isn’t interested in promoting Lee’s status as a past winner.

    In the pantheon of poorly treated winners and runner-ups, Lee still falls short of the unnecessarily dismissive treatment Diana DeGarmo has gotten over the years. She’s still the most kicked around ex-contestant, bar none.

  • Mtlfan

    Not a fan of Lee, but he’s showing way more class than Nigel.

    ITA
    ..but I believe the real ‘evil’ is Ken. Nigel tried to do something in a clumsy way and was probably upset afterward because he didn’t stand up earlier TPTB for Lee

  • purelee4LEE

    To the misinformed, Lee only tweeted that he wasn’t asked to perform after fans spammed his timeline with tweets asking for confirmation of whether his performing or not. He said in his interviews here in Asia that he will be at the finale and that started twitter speculation because it was vague. Will he be there to perform or will he just be there? He kept quiet after that and only tweeted again when Nigel siad that he was upset. I think it’s just right for anyone to tell their side of the story, right? For the misinformed, Lee has nothing but good, kind words for AI the whole time he was touring Asia and even when he was having interviews in the US left and right. We would have accepted eventually that he wasn’t asked to perform but for him to be ignored the whole night, without acknowledgment on air, that was just too much. Sorry, just my personal opinion. I’m not speaking for anyone, least of all Lee, who has remained a gentleman all throughout this brouhaha. Showed us what class looks like. True Idol, in my opinion.

  • sallysimmons

    The only thing I can figure is that it’s a culture thing. Maybe only a Brit would think it was okay to invite Lee onto the stage at the last minute.

    Yes because Americans are known the world over for their subtlety and restraint.

    Seriously, what an offensive comment.

  • kvwicks13

    Nigel tried to do something in a clumsy way and was probably upset afterward because he didn’t stand up earlier TPTB for Lee

    I don’t know if I would give Nigel that much credit. The guy refers to us as “morons”. Whether it was Ken or Nigel’s fault, Nigel didn’t help himself with his tweets!

  • Holden

    I was on Team Crystal last season, but I really hate the way Lee was treated this week. Lee is part of “Idol” history, and he should have been given a chance to perform, or at least be acknowledged — especially since he won during a season when the judges actually judged. Despite Lythgoe’s bad behavior toward him, Lee’s response was dignified and classy. All the best to him in the future.

  • Cari

    Weebs787 says:
    05/26/2011 at 9:20 pm

    I, honestly, felt like Nigel thought he’d get away with this without anybody caring. Then people got word of this, Lee fans or not, and he was getting some bad press and decided to try to paint Lee as the bitter ex-Idol who refused to play the game.

    I think something quite similar. Nigel thought nobody would care about the Lee snub. However, when he got so much hate for it, he decided last minute to do something so he could be seen as the hero who let Lee be on the finale! When Lee refused to play his game, Nigel decided to spin this as how bitter and ungrateful Lee is.

    Please, someone send Mr. Lythgoe to Oz so he can get a heart!

  • ross

    Lee’s response was classy – also brave, considering Nigel is a powerful figure when all is said and done. I’m glad he didn’t kiss Idol’s ass. I think he acted the way anyone would in that situation who has any self respect.

    Nigel seems incredibly immature and/or petty, to me.

  • aprilfoolish

    Lee tweeted before the finale that he was going and looked forward to seeing the good people at idol. (this is after he said he wasn’t performing) He looked happy in red carpet pictures. To me, it seemed like he was deliberately placed in the frame behind Ryan, as if to say, look at us ignoring you. (I might be over sensitive). He looked more and more uncomfortable. Jonna looked like an outraged mom who’s kid is being humiliated. Heartsick. Someone said they finally acknowledged him at commercial break, by the guy who engages the crowd during breaks. (he didn’t get the memo?) People cheered, I heard. I wonder if that caused Nigel to offer him the trophy hand-off. I’m still not sure how that would have been accomplished. After the announcements, it’s all about blubbering thanks and hugs (sorry Jack Black) and where would Lee fit in? They said JLo handed it to him, I don’t remember, but I think it was a poor afterthought to put him on the spot. Lee probably was very embarrassed, hence he seemed shy. And I’m glad he let us know what happened in a non-inflamatory way that showed his appreciation of his opportunity, but also showed he wasn’t going to let it slide. (and Lee hates drama #Leefact)

  • kvwicks13

    Aprilfoolish, you are right, Lee and Jonna looked very uncomfortable, which you can’t blame them. I felt so bad for them. The camera was on both of them for several minutes. Ryan could have turned around and acknowledged Lee. Let’s face it Ryan is good at that kind of off the cuff small talk.

    Lee took the high road and I’m proud to be a fan.

  • iani

    So, Nigel had a last minute of conciseness and asked him to present the trophy to Scotty minutes before the winner announcement! The same concise response from Lee, good for him! There were minutes of “the bad, the ugly and silly” traditions of the show to share with millions, behind the scene aspects of AI contenders and their strange, or staged behaviors. How about 1 min. pre taped scene with giving the Ford cars keys, David, Kris gave to the finalists before, a small sign of recognition that there was a winner last year! There are no questions why they show every year minutes of silly entertainment stuff, remember Pants on the Ground, bikini girl…but there are quotations why the winner should have his 3 min .for a song when he didn’t sell million and doesn’t have a single to promote! Well, he’s part of the AI family and he needs his few crumbs from the family meal!

  • Dlynne

    Lee is a class act all the way. I have huge respect for how he has conducted himself this past year. I’m sure he’s been hurt (how could he not?) by many things that have happened since he won and yet he has never let it show.

    I’m not going to forget it, however. I used to be a huge fan of the show. No more. Seeing people hurt just for the sake of ratings has finally taken its toll. There are other ways I’d rather spend my time.

  • girlygirl

    I hope Scotty is paying attention to all this, because if he doesn’t go out and sell oodles of singles and albums, he can expect the same type of treatment from Nigel et al 12 months from now…

  • cassie87

    Yea, I agree with what everyone else has said. Not having Lee was lame. I know some people don’t think he should have won, but I was a fan and I thought his CD was great. I met him last year and he’s a really great guy. Would’ve much rather seen him perform than JLO and Marc. I definitely believe Lee deserved to win and he should have been asked to perform.

  • anniem47

    I really admire Lee for the way he handled a difficult situation. Both Lee and Nigel exhibited what kind of men they are, with Lee being the clear winner.
    Acting with grace well beyond his years, Lee showed us all the meaning of character, class and dignity.

  • windmills

    I can understand not inviting Lee to perform at the finale. I didn’t like that the plan was apparently a complete lack of acknowledgement of last year’s winner. Nigel trying to arrange a last minute trophy relay wasn’t a bad idea but I totally understand Lee turning it down because he didn’t want his face in the new winner’s moment. All that stuff can be summed up as not the ideal outcome but it’s understandable and at least Nigel had a thought to make something happen.

    But throwing Lee under the bus on Twitter was a d*** move by Nigel. If you’re mad over what was probably a really quick conversation where full explanations aren’t possible, you talk to the guy and work things out before you tweet. It’s just the right thing to do.

  • gabriel oak

    This treatment of Lee is just typical of what is wrong with Idol in general. Treating so much of its talent like dirt. Just like they treat contestants they don’t want to win like dirt. This tradition has been going on for years and was encouraged by Simon Cowell and the producers of the show. Past Idol contestants are better off when they find fulfillment away from the Idol world.

    Several of the singers I like from Idol never won but I still want to hear their music. That’s especially true this year.

  • Montavilla

    Giving respect to the reigning American Idol shouldn’t be dependent on record sales. The winner is the winner. To disrespect any former winner is to disrespect the title. Since the show is built on the title meaning something (and in terms of cash or benefits, it’s meaning less and less), Nigel can’t afford to denigrate the title.

    Look, Nigel did a lot of smart things this year regarding the finale. We didn’t get a stupid production number or even a montage of bad auditioners. The taped bits were funny. There wasn’t a bad performance and, even when we laughed at stuff (like James’s costume), the performers seemed to be in on the joke.

    But this was a stupid move. Plain and simple.

  • Brook52

    Really sad but revealing about American Idol in general. Gee I was under the delusion that it was a warm hearted, fun contest. It is really just a cold hearted, uncaring, money grubbing show with no class. Truly shocking how they handled this. We the audience are Middle America- we don’t want any of our American Idols treated this way. I would say get someone with more respect for those who watch the show, and more respect for the American Idol tradition-to direct the show, otherwise it is just another contest. Oh I guess that is what it is- hmm so I guess I will just watch those other contests instead. I was already bored this season and very tired of the guest performers. And I don’t think that I can ever think of Ryan Seacrest in a positive way again. Truly appaling the way he treated Lee.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    I could just copy and paste Windmill’s post and follow it with “word.” It’s such a simple thing, Nigel. Just find a way to pay respect to the previous season’s winner. How freakin’ hard can that actually be?

    Meanwhile, as a devout Crystal fan who stubbornly refused to find anything to like about Lee last year, I’m now a convert. He’s a class act. His response was absolutely perfect. Very cool guy!

  • Laurie

    Poor Lee. I can’t imagine the rough year this man has had. Well, the best revenge is to be successful. I hope he goes on to do wonderful things. If this had happened to my favorite Idol, I would have been very upset too. He deserves respect and acknowledgement. He did win afterall. I don’t blame him for saying no to the last minute invitation to present the trophy. It would have seemed odd to have him up there at the last minute, since Ryan never acknowledged him while in the audience. It seems a bit immature of Nigel to cover his tracks with the tweet.

  • Ever_wonder_why

    -it was Scotty’s moment and definitely not the time to bring Lee up after not even mentioning him the entire rest of the night. Good for Lee for making it about the contestants….something Nigel could learn from.

    Agree! It was Scotty’s time and thankfully, Lee had the good judgement to know that. If he had agreed to present the trophy, he would have been accused of trying to steal Scotty’s moment. I’m glad he said no to Nigel and just let the moment be all about Scotty.

    I still wish Mike and Jonna would’ve kept their mouths shut and let Lee handle it.

    That would probably have been best, but then she would have been told she wasn’t being supportive. :/

    As for Lee’s fans and some of the reactions..We need to believe the man when he says he’s got this. Because he always does. :)

  • everything

    This treatment of Lee is just typical of what is wrong with Idol in general. Treating so much of its talent like dirt. Just like they treat contestants they don’t want to win like dirt. This tradition has been going on for years and was encouraged by Simon Cowell and the producers of the show

    There’s always been a pecking order. They’ve always had their favorites – and those that they do not like. And someone like Kris Allen really got the brunt of it.

    With Lee, I do believe that something is happening behind the scenes. Unfortunately, I think he will probably be dropped from RCA very shortly. Thus, the reason for all the sudden noise by TPTB trying to paint Lee in a negative light.

  • Parkbench

    I really wanted to see Lee perform but if that wasn’t going to happen the least they could have done was to have Ryan talk to him for like 10 seconds while Ryan was near him! Poor guy! At least he got to actually go to the finale and watch it live…

    Also, when Lee first tweeted that he wasn’t asked to perform I don’t think he was looking for a fight or venting. I think since he was probably getting asked a lot, he was just letting his fans know what’s going on. Then in his tweet from today, it really did show that he wasn’t trying to cause any trouble or whatever. It makes sense on why he would turn that last minute appearance down. That was rude of Nigel though to tweet what he did, he was the one looking for a fight!

    I bought one of Lee’s pre-Idol albums. I haven’t gotten his one that came out after Idol since I wasn’t that much of a fan of that album because it’s not really Lee’s style but I might buy now just to support Lee!

  • bjames

    That’s gotta be completely awkward for Lee, and I feel bad for him. But just being honest, I would have fast-forwarded any performance from him last night. Nigel knows what he’s doing.

    That being said, I felt like the show could have used a little more former Idol presence last night. With the Davids, Kris, Adam, and Lee all in the audience, why couldn’t they have done a little something?

  • CindyM

    I have to ask where 19M is in all of this. I’m still surprised that they did not get Lee on the Finale. Besides that though, why did 19M not immediately issue a press release responding to Nigel’s tweet? Lee needs new management.

    With regard to this, was anyone from 19 with Lee last night? I know that Lane was with Adam and Jambajim tweeted about Kris and Allisons publicist, was anyone with Lee in his red carpet interviews?

  • http://myspace.com/morganmadelynne marymagdalene

    In the pantheon of poorly treated winners and runner-ups, Lee still falls short of the unnecessarily dismissive treatment Diana DeGarmo has gotten over the years. She’s still the most kicked around ex-contestant, bar none.

    Taylor Hicks is still being kicked around, and he WON. :-/

  • Kirsten

    I hope Scotty is paying attention to all this, because if he doesn’t go out and sell oodles of singles and albums, he can expect the same type of treatment from Nigel et al 12 months from now…

    If he doesn’t sell oodles of singles and albums, whatever Nigel is doing will be the least of his worries. Being dropped by your label is way more important than getting to sing on a finale. Don’t expect too much (or much at all) from 19Alphabet and you won’t be disappointed. They stuck Taylor’s picture behind a bush. They have long made it clear that you either produce or they lose your phone number.

  • Elliegrll

    Since Lee’s tweet, the story has now been picked up by TV Line and The Hollywood Reporter. I don’t know if that’s a good or bad thing.

  • AIaddict

    I used to be very loyal to this show but they’ve sickened me with this move.

    Me too. I don’t know what else to add that has not already been said in support of Lee. I just want to say how taken aback I was when learning that Lee would not be performing at the finale. How utterly ashamed I was of the way he was treated last night when Ryan was standing just a few feet from him and did not acknowledge him at all. Lee and Jonna both looked so uncomfortable that I felt like a mom who’s child was being blatantly ignored or bullied. I kept thinking that any second Ryan is going to say something to him. When it did not happen I thought how unbelievable. The show had reached a new low for me. Lee had every right to say no to Nigel and I am glad he did. After all the non judging this season, the OTT manipulation by Nigel, some of the contestants thinking they are all that, then them treating Lee the way they did was the last straw. Nigel just made it a little easier for me to pull away from AI and move on to other shows. God bless Lee D. for always facing adversity head on and always handling it in a mature and classy way.

  • sarah14

    I’m glad Lee has had Jonna for support and encouragement these last few months. I can’t imagine going through all of the negativity and media bashing he has been through without someone to hold on to. He just wants to make music for people. He’s not a number on a chart, he’s a person with feelings and dreams.

    http://bit.ly/m7kzre

  • artemis

    I’m so glad Lee gave his side of the story.It was bad enough that he was ignored at the Finale, but then Nigel tried to damage his reputation to deflect the criticism from himself.This is a typical tactic from a bully. Lee is a really nice guy;he has always talked about Idol in a positive way, but that doesn’t mean he won’t stand up for himself.

  • YeahRight

    I’m not a Lee fan or supporter so I’m not up in arms about him not being asked to perform. I’m not upset about it. If he did, I know I wouldn’t have watched the performance and I totally think he would’ve brought the whole show down.

  • jrain

    I’m not a Lee fan or supporter so I’m not up in arms about him not being asked to perform. I’m not upset about it. If he did, I know I wouldn’t have watched the performance and I totally think he would’ve brought the whole show down.

    doesn’t matter if you don’t like him i’m not a fan of Lee either but he won and he at least deserved some respectful mention or inclusion. They didn’t forget about him, they made a conscious decision to snub him. They could have easily cut the bad auditions reel or swearing reel or even shortened the Beyonce medley Just pure bad treatment.

  • Zastine4974

    I’m not a Lee fan or supporter so I’m not up in arms about him not being asked to perform. I’m not upset about it. If he did, I know I wouldn’t have watched the performance and I totally think he would’ve brought the whole show down

    Well it couldn’t have been any worse than TLC or the 2nd Beyonce song. That was crap.

  • ross

    If the idea was to make people forget Lee existed, it seems to have had the opposite effect. :)

  • happyhexer

    The dissing of Lee — and there really is not a nice way to get around the fact that he was not acknowledged in any way, shape, or form — leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I am not a big Lee fan. I’ve bought a few songs (which I like a lot) from one of his pre-Idol CDs, but that’s it. But for me, it’s the principle of the thing. In two hours filled with plenty of fluff, AI couldn’t find a way to acknowledge Lee? There is no excuse. There just isn’t. I’m fairly new to the AI world — have only been watching for two years — so maybe I’m not as invested. But I could see myself not watching next year. Not just because of Lee, but also because of the shameless pimping of the judges. With competition from The X Factor and The Voice, why would AI alienate its viewers? Someone voted for Lee, or he wouldn’t have won. All I can say is, Lee has handled this in a very, very classy way. I wish him all the very best.

  • happyhexer

    BTW, I saw Lee on screen when Ryan was blathering to someone or other. I really thought Ryan was going to acknowledge Lee in passing. But he didn’t, at least not on-screen. Lee looked a little uncomfortable but very poised. He must have known he was in camera range. I’m sure he couldn’t wait for them to cut away so he could go back to enjoying the show.

  • ross

    With Lee, I do believe that something is happening behind the scenes. Unfortunately, I think he will probably be dropped from RCA very shortly. Thus, the reason for all the sudden noise by TPTB trying to paint Lee in a negative light.

    Tonight I was looking at the Boston Phoenix concert listings. There’s a new club called Brighton Music Hall that replaced Harper’s Ferry not long ago. I noticed this: Friday, July 1: Lee DeWyze.

    So this means Lee should be touring by then, I assume. Anyhow, it’s a 340 capacity room that’s meant as a “feeder club” for The Paradise – a famous rock club in the city (capacity @ 850).

    Sorry if it’s a bit off-topic, but interesting re Lee.

  • Dlynne

    At least he got to actually go to the finale and watch it live…

    That’s true, but can you imagine sitting right behind Ryan and being completely ignored? It wasn’t just a split second either. It was at least 15 or 20 seconds. Yes, the audience knew that he was in attendance because Cory told them so but the audience at home didn’t. I can’t get erase the image from my mind. It really bothers me.

    Frankly, I could have done without the nearly pornographic performance that GaGa gave. I like her music but that was highly inappropriate for a family show. I would have preferred a performance from Lee during that time, but Lee is not signed to UMG and GaGa is. I could also have done without another look at the auditions…another opportunity for Idol to make fun of people. This is not the show I fell in love with. I’m finally over it.

  • tigervixxxen

    Ross, it is true that Lee is going on tour and I recognize that date as one of them. He’s doing the midwest and northeast in mid June-early July. I also agree with you that if the producers wanted the world to forget about Lee they certainly didn’t accomplish their goal with the press about it now.

  • Dlynne

    jambajim of mtv has weighed in in support of Lee too. It’s at the 4:24 mark.

    http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/657544/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-season-11-of-american-idol.jhtml#id=1664624

  • oza902

    I’ve never seen Lee be anything other than a kind gentleman and I’m quite disgusted with Idol for treating him this way. Nigel can certainly be a little beotch when he puts his mind to it. I don’t get that.. Nigel has nothing to gain by dissing S9.

  • YeahRight

    jrain says:

    doesn’t matter if you don’t like him i’m not a fan of Lee either but he won and he at least deserved some respectful mention or inclusion. They didn’t forget about him, they made a conscious decision to snub him. They could have easily cut the bad auditions reel or swearing reel or even shortened the Beyonce medley Just pure bad treatment.

    Not to me. I can understand his fans being upset, but like I said, as someone who is not a fan, I don’t care. And I still think a performance from him would’ve brought the show to a screeching halt.

    And I thought I remember reading somewhere that Nigel liked Crystal during Season 9. So, maybe he’s still bitter that Lee won or something. I don’t know.

  • garlandk77

    So essentially, this is what happened:

    Nigel wants America to forget Season 9 ever happened and decides Lee will not be acknowledged in any way at the finale. When this becomes known to Idol fans, Nigel gets lots of flack about it. So at the last minute, Nigel goes up to Lee in the audience and says:

    “Look, a bunch of moron Idol fans are on my back about not allowing you on stage during the finale, and it’s really pissing me off. So as much as it pains me to say this, I’m willing to hold my nose and let you come on stage for a few seconds to hand the Idol trophy to the new winner. So, do you wanna do it or not?”

    Like anyone with an ounce of self-respect, Lee declines the offer.

    Nigel then says to himself:

    “Perfect! Now I can go on Twitter and say that Lee refused my offer to present the trophy. This makes me look like the good guy and Lee is the bad guy. And my original plan to keep him off the stage remains intact. Am I good at this job or what.”

  • suenigma

    Hahaha. Garlandk77, that was perfect! I think that you must have been a fly on the wall.

  • springboard

    LOL, garlandk77, you may be close the the truth there.

    As for the support from Jim Cantiello and other bloggers, it is too little too late. If they had not been bashing Lee from the start, may be the show producers would have felt that they ought to show some respect for him.
    This may have been the last nail in his coffin, but since they have dismissed and ridiculed him for a whole year, it is the only one that they didn’t hit themselves. In a way I expect that it helped Lee build such a thick skin that it doesn’t matter any more.

  • stellamarris

    wasnt adam lambert supposed to be in the finale? i thought he had tweeted sth about that. what happened?

  • Tess

    Not that I am a typical AI fan…but if I was I don’t think that not having Lee on the finale hurt the program or its cred one bit. I’m not into nostalgia, myself, and giving someone a performance slot just because of a “title” and not because their abilities warrant it isn’t high on my priority list.

    It’s a shame that the online universe, Nigel included, have resorted to Twitter (and I hate that fucking thing…who wants to know what someone is thinking 24/7) to air all their personal grievances about this issue. Dirty laundry just isn’t pretty hanging out on the back yard line for everyone to see.

  • soverymel

    wasnt adam lambert supposed to be in the finale? i thought he had tweeted sth about that. what happened?

    Nope, he just tweeted that he was going to be there, not perform.

  • dvls

    I think the way this show treats/ignores the majority of their alumni is deplorable.

  • cokezero

    Yes, Nigel/19 were trying to forget S9 ever happened, but for good reason. Look at his sales and then tell me the average AI viewer missed him.

    The way Nigel handled it was horrible though. Should’ve just never acknowledged the situation at all, and no one outside of Idol blogs would have cared.

  • poster

    I hope Scotty is paying attention to all this, because if he doesn’t go out and sell oodles of singles and albums, he can expect the same type of treatment from Nigel et al 12 months from now…

    The thing is, doesn’t matter what Scotty’s talent level is, he will have oodles of support from the new Idol label, Idol, Nigel, the whole organization, because they want to prove they have the “new and improved” Idol and want it to be successful. Lee was in the wrong place at the wrong time…Season 9 was atrocious and it had NOTHING to do with the contestants and everything to do with the lackluster judges, the label being replaced by a new label, Ricky Minor leaving, etc. Everyone was checking out and couldn’t care less last year.

    I’m on board with being done with Idol. It’s run its course. My favorite thing about Idol was learning about the contestants, their stories, seeing how they grew and matured throughout the season, how they handled judges advice/criticisms. There’s none of this any more. Now it’s flaming pianos and overproduced songs where you can hardly hear the contestant singing for the music. Hardly anything about the contestants and way too much about the judges and their latest projects, etc. Lucky for me there’s plenty of other realty TV shows/singing competitions to take Idol’s place for my viewing pleasure.

  • kmd

    This is just business as usual for AI. It is not going to change. AI moves on to the new idols. It is just going to be more obvious now. The focus is on Scotty and Lauren and S10. I think with UMG being the label now you are not going to see many former idols on the show next year at all. The other issue is an appearance on Idol hasn’t helped any of the former idols with their sales this year. Cook was on twice and had the boot song every week and his sales on both his singles aren’t that great.

  • kvwicks13

    I think the appearances do help. When Lee was on in March he got a 5k bump in sales. I think what’s happening to Cook is a sign that AI is not the money making machine it used to be.

    Country music fans are buyers, so I think Scotty and Lauren will do better but I think that’s the only reason.

  • Duke

    Let’s just keep it real for a second:

    The reason Lee wasn’t asked to perform at the finale was because he was a FLOP. He didn’t sell squat and he’s a mediocre singer. THATS why you werent asked to perform, Lee. You winning was a big enough present from Idol, so dont get greedy.

  • Sq

    Wow – what a shame – total lack of class Nigel. There is just no excuse, there was a ton of filler – all promoting something or other that we skipped on the DVR – watched Tim and Carrie and Beyonce and would have been happy to see Lee.

    One of the great things on the finale is to see how far last years champ has grown through the tours and the record sales – are they the same? (Cookie) or have they changed? (Carrie)

    I think we actually “watched” about 10% or less of the actual shows this year – when in the past Idol was a family fixture.

    Now SYTYCD is back and while I’m lovin the dancing I could do with a bit less of Nigel’s antics.

    My guess is that the king of twitter (Mr N) was aware of the backlash from Lee not being on stage and thought he could “fix” it at the last second. I’m glad Lee didn’t let him get away with it.

    Trophy? What Trophy?

  • Falfor

    The passing of the torch/title to another up and coming possibility happens each year; and not every Idol has had major success, but where in life does it state that everyone will be major successful. Nigel, not allowing Lee to sing and exit his title in a gracious manner was not only cold, it was downright mean. It is tradition to allow the title holder a last bow, whether or not they made money for the show. The show took that chance. It is just common courtesy. It would cost you nothing to do a job well with dignity, humility and kindness. Instead you fuel the fire with off the wall remarks that make you look worse. The one thing people remember is how you make them feel. Lee should have sang his song, regardless of your thoughts….right….precedes.

  • poster

    Guess Nigel didn’t get the memo about the anti-bullying campaign going on now. He’s like that kid in junior high who bullied kids and then laughed about it and was proud. He’s disgusting.

  • Elliegrll

    With Lee, I do believe that something is happening behind the scenes. Unfortunately, I think he will probably be dropped from RCA very shortly. Thus, the reason for all the sudden noise by TPTB trying to paint Lee in a negative light.

    RCA might drop him, but that has nothing to do with Nigel. Nigel is a producer of the show, and he could care less about Lee’s career, or doing anything to promote him, it’s not his job. Now, if the people at 19, who are responsible for managing his career, start bad mouthing him, that’s a problem.

  • ross

    The reason Lee wasn’t asked to perform at the finale was because he was a FLOP. He didn’t sell squat and he’s a mediocre singer. THATS why you werent asked to perform, Lee. You winning was a big enough present from Idol, so dont get greedy.

    None of us know why Lee wasn’t asked.

    He didn’t complain about it – it was other people.

    Lee’s season wasn’t very successful. He’s not the reason for that. It didn’t give him much of a launching pad. Nobody from his season has been a real Idol success story.

    Also, we’re so quick to blame the performer alone, when they aren’t successful – when there are many factors involved behind the scenes. Idol not only has favorites who are successful, it also promotes some favorites to success, and not others.

  • kvwicks13

    Wow, Duke, a bit harsh. Not all the last 9 idols have been rock star successful but they are all still doing music in some way. The first 7 seasons faired better because people were buying cds back than and the show was more popular. Just look at Cook as an example, he sold alot during Season 7, his new single is out, he’s selling but not at the volume he previously sold. It’s a sign of the times.

    Lee just wants to make music, that’s what its about for him. Whether he sold a ton of cds or not, it shouldn’t matter, he was the reigining idol and should have been acknowledged in some way.

    Ross, great post by the way!

  • steph6449

    I can’t say I have followed Nigel or others behind the scenes, but I don’t think just the one tweet constitutes “bullying.” Questionable taste, sure. Unnecessary to post it, probably. Also unnecessary a couple of days before for Lee to publicly make it known he “wasn’t asked.” He could have just said no, I’ll be there but won’t be performing.
    It’s an awkward situation, but not one for which I personally have any desire to demonize Nigel or canonize Lee, lol. Especially without any evidence beyond what both of them are saying, in a situation of apparent ruffled feathers on both sides. Maybe this is more proof that twitter is the real devil… ;)

  • Avari

    IMO, the AI finale show is about celebrating the contestants as contestants, not about how successful they are, or may be, when the show is over. It’s also about good TV, not about rewarding best-sellers.

    Lee, as the freaking winner of last year’s show, should have been acknowledged in some way. Full stop. Casual viewers expected it. Idol fans wanted it. It would have made for a feel-good TV moment. There was plenty of time that could have been used.

    Instead, Nigel has pissed off fans, puzzled viewers, made Lee look like a loser (which he isn’t, but that’s the impression some people will get), and generated bad press for himself. I completely understand that this is business, not kindergarten, but it would have cost nothing in terms of cash or time or ratings or whatever to give Lee a quick moment in the sun. I don’t even really care for Lee as a performer, but this was wrong.

    And Nigel’s final tweet about Lee not wanting to present the so-called winners trophy? Truly low class. I actually had some respect for Nigel as a savvy entertainment business shark, but it’s hard to respect that kind of passive aggressive ass-covering.

  • Allison

    My guess is that the king of twitter (Mr N) was aware of the backlash from Lee not being on stage and thought he could “fix” it at the last second. I’m glad Lee didn’t let him get away with it.

    Sounds logical

  • poster

    steph6449 I know it’s been posted here several times, but Lee’s original tweet was just responding to his many followers’ questions about what he would be performing on Idol. It was a big twitter debate going on for a few days before. It wasn’t to diss Idol. And I follow Nigel on Twitter and the sum of all his tweets indicate to me he’s a bully. But the one thing I agree with you is that Twitter is probably the devil..if I were a celebrity, I would stay away.

  • Trina

    To be fair, while its fairly obvious season 9 wasnt well liked by production, when Lee came back to sing his single they called him a superstar. They could have treated him a lot worse, in fact people like mother who is oblivious has no idea whos doing what unless your name is Carrie came away thinking Lee found a lot of success after he won.

    IMO next season we’ll see way less focus on winners from the last few years since UMG will most likely have multiple Idols under their label to pimp. Maybe the ones Fuller still manages will get an appearance, but I do think a lot will be different. We’ve been saying all season they are obviously changing rules. This was a crappy thing to do to Lee and I dont condone how Nigel is handling things, but I do think next season will be even more different. If David doesnt do well with his next album I expect even he’ll start getting less Idol pimpage even though they’ve always treated him well.

  • koshka

    IMO next season we’ll see way less focus on winners from the last few years since UMG will most likely have multiple Idols under their label to pimp.

    I do believe you are right about UMG not wanting to focus on prior winners, but 19 still manages many of them and will still want to use AI as a platform. That said, I do agree there will be less emphasis than in the past. I don’t believe it will have much to do with the number of signed AI artists UMG will have under their wings. Other than Scotty and Alaina, I think we’ll see alot of “one and done” deals. Historically 4-10 don’t do well in terms of sales and #3 is really iffy, not to mention we have a number of niche artists this year.

  • tripp_ncwy

    IMO next season we’ll see way less focus on winners from the last few years since UMG will most likely have multiple Idols under their label to pimp.

    19 still owns the show, not Fuller. Fuller is a paid consultant. They will get their artists on the show. Daughtry, Kelly, Kris, Adam and possibly Allison should have new product out & they are managed by 19 except for Kelly. 19 is not going to totally ignore their artists still signed with Sony it does not make business sense. The UMG signed artist(s) have yet to prove themselves in the marketplace whereas Daughtry & Kelly are big sellers.

  • TwigLA

    I think Lee handled this with class and I also think he was right in declining Nigel’s last minute request to give the winner the joke trophy. Yes, joke … because that trophy was introduced in Season 8 and I believe as an answer to the tacky mirror ball DWTS trophy.

    It was an afterthought and it put Lee on the spot. It was Nigel trying to get FANS of the SHOW off his back for such an obvious dis.

    One of the reasons I like watching the finale is to see the people from past seasons make cameo appearances and the shots of them in the audience. Except for Carrie, Lauren’s ‘Idol’ by design, past winners and contestants were sorely lacking. We didn’t even get comments from the two that were at the hometown viewing parties.

    They used to have the past winner do some sort of performance with the Final 2 or the Top 10, 12, 13, whatever. I liked that a lot. AI is a club of sorts and there should be a welcoming of these newbies into that club. It’s about continuity of the show.

    I don’t know how much Nigel was involved in the planning of the Finale, but he seems to like to take all the credit for what is right. This was wrong as were his ignorant tweets.

  • ross

    Good points,TwigLA. I guess the only other thing I can say is that the show created the whole idea of an American idol, and they made this guy the idol, through the way they run their contest – and then these same people seem to want to take that away, or not acknowledge it, when it doesn’t suit them. So this just says a lot about them, to me. Even in show business, a pretty tawdry business, there’s such a thing as class, vs. no class, and this was no class.

  • LaurelG

    I thought Lee handled the situation with total class too. Despite being the first winner not asked to return and perform, he still attended the show and sat in the audience like a good soldier. He was available for Ryan to acknowledge him and say a few words, but that didn’t happen. Why not? There were a couple of times when the cameras were positioned so that Lee was visible directly behind Ryan. Couldn’t the show have had Ryan introduce Lee and ask him a question about his recent Asian tour or upcoming shows?

    Nigel’s last minute “fix” only underscored to Lee how much of an afterthough he was – it was a slap in the face and I don’t blame Lee one bit for declining to go along with it.

  • iani

    “Nigel wants America to forget Season 9 ever happened and decides Lee will not be acknowledged in any way at the finale.”

    “The passing of the torch/title to another up and coming possibility happens each year; and not every Idol has had major success, but where in life does it state that everyone will be major successful.The passing of the torch/title to another up and coming possibility happens each year; and not every Idol has had major success, but where in life does it state that everyone will be major successful.

    Exactly, I said few days ago something like seems they have opened a new “chapter”, the punishment one for winners who don’t sell well, don’t have a spot in the finale. It is a Competition with a Winner, successful or not, remind to people his/her name before passing the title! There were 2h of entertainment for people who would have not liked the 3 min. winner’s reserved part of the show.
    Then TPTB do whatever you want to, acknowledging or not the idols after, it’s your money out there to care what you do with your spots on the shows. But as a respectful, serious competition I expect a respectful attitude towards winners on the final shows when their reigning years are done!

  • JB1

    Who’s Lee Dewyze?

  • iani

    You’re right JB1, question for Jeopardy!
    ETA: poster, somebody got it right once, lol, right after S7. Question was something like “Who was the runner up to David Cook, the winner of S7 AI?” And the person knew, David Archuleta.

  • jpfan

    Who’s Lee Dewyze?

    He’s the guy who won Idol last year. Just goes to show what the future holds for any winners off this show. Nigel is a bully and an ass for tweeting that stuff about him. Lee is really a blip on Nigel’s radar and it just shows that a nonentity like Lee is really a bigger man than the producer of TV’s #1 show.

  • poster

    Who’s Lee Dewyze?

    Oh and as far as Jeopardy goes, they had a whole category once about Idol winners, and not one question got answered correctly – there was only 1 question that got buzzed in on. The contestants just stood there looking blank-faced. Oh, and Lee DeWyze wasn’t an Idol yet when this happened.

  • JB1

    You guys aren’t picking up on the sarcasm of my post! :) With all respect to Lee’s talents… no one remembers him! He seems like a nice kid, but he may be the quickest idol winner to disappear ever.

  • poster

    JB1 I caught your sarcasm, but if you aren’t an Idol follower, you probably would say Who is Scotty McCreery? Who is Lauren Ailaina? Who is David Cook? etc. etc. Even if you’re not a fan you must realize every Idol, yes even Lee, has a fan base.

  • GwendolynD

    Truthfully, Lee’s fans could have been upset about him not appearing at the finale, and Nigel could have left it at that. If he didn’t want him to be on the finale and felt he was right in doing so, fine. Let the fans be angry and leave the matter alone. Stick by your decision.

    His Tweet was really unnecessary, and I’m glad Lee responded the way he did. It sort of highlighted the fact that Nigel can be a dog in a real “kick him while he’s down” kind of way.

    All I can hear in my head is Lee telling Michael Slezak, “I hate drama.” Heh. He must be loving this.

  • imike

    I personally would like to see Lee back at Wuli Records.The over the top pop he put out ar RCA is good but IMO not 100% what Lee had in mind.You could tell by the way Lee was playing these songs live. They sounded nothing like the album and he played the songs live like he probably envisioned them during the writing process.They take Lee’s ideas put them through the pop formula machine and expect hits because of some out of touch
    A &R rep for RCA.His Slumberland album is exquisite and showcases Lee as a powerful songwriter all by himself.Wuli has distribution through UMG and I’m sure would use that channel very wisely.Lee has a huge future as an artist and I can not wait for him to shake the AI tag and get to writing his style of songs again.

  • JB1

    poster i hear you, but i would guess millions know Carrie Underwood, Kelly Clarkson, Chris Daughtry (who obviously didn’t even win), and others.

    You are right, sadly Cookie would be thrown in the pool of unsuccessful idols along with Kris Allen, my man Taylor Hicks and Rueben…and Lee. Sure they have their tiny fanbases, but not broad appeal.

  • caroleinfla

    Just my opinion, the best way to get even with Nigel is not to watch American Idol next year. Let the ratings fall.

  • tigervixxxen

    Well I guess Lee’s fan base was big enough to get a reaction out of Nigel. Heh.

    imike, it is true Lee’s songs live are a revelation.

  • http://emuisemo.pbworks.com eilonwy

    The over the top pop he put out ar RCA is good but IMO not 100% what Lee had in mind.You could tell by the way Lee was playing these songs live. They sounded nothing like the album and he played the songs live like he probably envisioned them during the writing process.

    Word.

    I was working on a little something last night to amuse DeWyze fans, which necessitated listening to some of his live performances. Songs hung together better.

    While I’m not ready to jump on the DeWyze fan train and I don’t predict a future album with Wuli to suddenly catapult him to gold-level sales, I’d show up if he did a reasonably priced show in my region.

  • kvwicks13

    I for sure wont be watching teen idol next year, lol! I’ve been getting into The Voice and will certainly watch xfactor.

  • Jablea

    Same thing kindof happened to Adam last year. He was prepping for tour and they invited him to sit in the audience. He declined as he was finalizing things right before they packed up to go. Big flak everywhere asking why he wasn’t included in the past idols tribute to Simon. Adam responded on twitter that they had asked him to sit in the audience, they hadn’t said a thing about going on stage, and he felt he could use his time more wisely getting the tour stuff finalized. I don’t think the show producer tweeted out “we asked and he declined” but they might have.

  • GwendolynD

    Nigel’s playing games. That’s enough. He tweeted:


    I don’t wish to continue the @leedewyze story. True, he wasn’t asked to sing but Lee knows he was asked to present the trophy a week before.

  • IdolThoughts

    Lee’s performances are not finale-worthy in my opinion. It was great to have him perform during the season but I wouldn’t have displaced any of the other performances to have Lee sing some droopy eyed alt rock song. He shouldn’t even care and should distance himself from Idol anyway at this point. It doesn’t do rockers any favors to suckle the Idol teet for too long. That’s my not-a-fan-of-Lee opinion. Although I would have had a higher opinion of him if he wasn’t giving stank face to the camera…or during his entire season on Idol.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Nigel is responding to Lee’s rebutting Nigle’s tweet.

    dizzyfeet
    I don’t wish to continue the @leedewyze story. True, he wasn’t asked to sing but Lee knows he was asked to present the trophy a week before.

  • iani

    Dear Nigel, the show is over, momentum gone for anything! Take care now of your ‘beloved child” SDYTYCD!

  • kvwicks13

    Wow, Nigel just won’t let it go!

  • koshka

    dizzyfeet
    I don’t wish to continue the @leedewyze story. True, he wasn’t asked to sing but Lee knows he was asked to present the trophy a week before.

    Why didn’t he just say so instead of acting like an ass? The truth is usually somewhere in the middle.

  • HR

    If Lee was asked to present the trophy a week in advance that is very different then the impression Lee gave that he was asked in the moment during the finale. If this is true I’m going to side on Nigel’s side.

  • GwendolynD

    Smh. If Lee was asked a week before, Nigel certainly would have said so at first. This could go on forever, but I don’t expect Lee to respond.

    As Matt Mitovich just tweeted: “Lee DeWyze has officially made more headlines in past 36 hours than in the preceding year.”

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    “I don’t wish to continue…” BUT he does. That is a pet peeve of mine. Would have been better to say he wanted to set the record straight and done so.

    If Nigel asked him a week ago to present and he said no, then I don’t feel Lee was slighted. He did perform on the show earlier in the year, at a point that COULD have helped his record sales, which is really the point. It would have been wise for Lee to accept presenting the trophy.

    I sense there’s a lot more to this story. I think the fact that his brother went on a rant about him not getting to perform is telling.

    If Lee was asked a week before, Nigel certainly would have said so at first.

    Disagree. He said Lee was asked to present. He had no reason to mention the timeline until Lee claimed it was a minute before the presentation of the winner.

    I am leaning on believing Nigel, although I’m not quite sure.

  • Cari

    GwendolynD says:
    05/27/2011 at 12:43 pm
    Smh. If Lee was asked a week before, Nigel certainly would have said so.

    I agree, Nigel would’ve said something earlier if this had actually been the case. And I actually spoke to him Wed morning about the whole Lee thing and he didn’t say anything about having asked Lee to present (which I think he would have mentioned)… Hmmm I’m still on Lee’s side, and wish Nigel would grow up.

  • Landmd

    Lee was in Asia promoting his album and American Idol the week before. I still take Lee’s side on this one, dizzy has showed nothing but his ass all season long.

  • HR

    That isn’t true. Lee received a performance slot, an interview with Ryan, and was kindly labeled a “superstar” in that appearance. Lee was treated well in that instance.

  • HoppersSkippersMiners

    [shrug] Or Nigel’s “people” were supposed to tell Lee’s “people”, but didn’t. Or Lee didn’t have “people” to tell him, so he didn’t get told.

    Lee seems to be a pretty honest dude with limited stuff on his plate right now. If someone actually asked him (as compared to “supposed to ask him”) a week ago, I think he would say that.

    IMO, I think Lee didn’t get the message, Nigel went “where the hell is Lee??”, Nigel went to grab Lee, Lee went “WTF???…um….now??!!”, Lee did a split second “not appropriate” judgement call, Nigel got panties in a twist.

    But then, who really knows?

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Lee was in Asia promoting his album and American Idol the week before. I still take Lee’s side on this one, dizzy has showed nothing but his ass all season long.

    LOL. I can call someone in Asia on the phone pretty easily. Again, I don’t know why Nigel would specifically mention when Lee was asked until Lee gave the time frame as right before the performance. He was responding to that.

    Is Nigel an ass? Yes. Does that mean he’s lying? Not necessarily.

    Was there a miss-communication? Possibly.

    All I know is that I highly doubt Lee will get an invite back to Idol anytime soon.

    ETA: I can say I doubt this will happen on the X-Factor. Can you see Simon having a twitter war with a past contestant who felt snubbed? Nope, it wouldn’t be worth his time. Somehow that makes Nigel both more appealing and less appealing, if that makes sense. I mean, this is getting popcorn worthy. *goes to pop*

  • kvwicks13

    Oye, this entire thing is giving me a big headache. Please Nigel, just friggin shut up already!

    PJ: Lee probably doesn’t want to be invited back either, not after all this nonsense.

  • Montavilla

    Adam responded on twitter that they had asked him to sit in the audience, they hadn’t said a thing about going on stage, and he felt he could use his time more wisely getting the tour stuff finalized. I don’t think the show producer tweeted out “we asked and he declined” but they might have.

    As I recall, in that case some online reporter put out a story that Adam had thrown some kind of a tantrum at the finale rehearsal and pulled out. Had Nigel been around at the time, we’d probably think he had planted the story!

    Perhaps there was some miscommunication. Perhaps Lee’s “people” turned down the offer two weeks ago without bothering to let Lee know about it. And then Nigel decided to give it another try by asking Lee directly. I don’t know.

    But I tend to believe Lee is sincere. If he were asked to participate two weeks ago and turned it down then, why would he show up for the finale at all?

  • GwendolynD

    When there’s a bit of attention ho’ing going on, which there is, he’ll drag this out as long as he possibly can. I see absolutely no reason for Lee to go to such an extent to actually lie about it when he, who hates the drama, is probably hiding in a closet somewhere, wishing it would go away.

    Nigel’s brilliant. He did well with the show. But, I’m sorry, as someone in his position, he needs to know when to reign it in. Yet, he continues to tweet about it, like a five-year-old, and he’s loving the fact that people are still talking about him.

    Hang in there, Lee DeWyze.

  • tessa

    I’m sick of the sexed up hype from so-called celebrities they keep bombarding us with on this FAMILY show. Did minors really have to be shown Lady Gaga’s crotch and simulated sexual choreography? She ruins her own songs. Or have Beyonce sing inappropriate lyrics on a second performance? I for one would much have preferred to see Lee DeWyze perform, something he (and his fans) deserved as last year’s Idol winner who earned this corporation a TON of money while he was on the show. Without him, Season 9 would have been dead.

    Nigel tweeting again — wow, he must be enjoying this. Enough said.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    PJ: Lee probably doesn’t want to be invited back either, not after all this nonsense.

    Perhaps. I see a lot of ego here on both sides. If Lee is upset on how he was managed/songs he was given/etc, then fine. He’s not the first. I remember being outraged when Bo Bice’s first album was released. Yet, he didn’t have a public fight with Idol and they still let him promote his stuff. So, I guess that’s Lee’s prerogative. His camp did start it though, as far as it goes with the angry tweets from his brother, etc.

  • dinaa68

    See…its the telephone game, and we’re all playing now. Lee said “two minutes,” now Nigel is saying “one week,” and I’ve seen at least two posts so far that say “two weeks”…lol!

  • Cari

    pj says: He did start it though, as far as it goes with the angry tweets from his brother, etc.

    Lee has nothing to do with his brother’s tweets, though. Goodness knows if my sister tweeted someone angry, *I* wouldn’t want to be blamed for it.

  • leome

    Idk who’s saying the truth, but to me Lee is being a little bit more “polite” about the whole thing. Nigel’s tweets just sound so low, from that first tweet where he started it all, to the re-tweeting of that one about the fans’s reactions hurting Lee.
    1 week or 1 minute, what I know is that I don’t really think Nigel is approaching this the right way at all.

  • koshka

    Who would have thought my Gravatar would be appropriate twice this season. LOL

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Lee has nothing to do with his brother’s tweets, though. Goodness knows if my sister tweeted someone angry, *I* wouldn’t want to be blamed for it.

    I changed that to Lee’s camp. I do believe that sometimes people let others do their dirty work for them. His brother was in the know, apparently.

    Also, I don’t know who your sister is, so how could I blame you? Lee is in the public eye, so his family members are too. It’s not like he was on the show this season and they didn’t yet realize fans were following family members.

    Either way, Nigel is acting like the ass he is and it’s hella entertaining to me.

    People are feeding into the outrage and he’s loving it. He’s probably popping the corn himself. Best way to defeat Nigel… ignore him.

  • leome

    His camp did start it though, as far as it goes with the angry tweets from his brother, etc.

    I think this is a really wrong line of thought.
    Lee should not be blamed for his brother’s or fans (like Nigel has implied) tweets. That’s just wrong. His brother doesn’t represent him, he has not control over it.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I think this is a really wrong line of thought.
    Lee should not be blamed for his brother’s or fans (like Nigel has implied) tweets. That’s just wrong. His brother doesn’t represent him, he has not control over it.

    *shrug* Maybe, but Lee didn’t have to address the situation any more than Nigel did. It would have died a slow death and been forgotten by now.

  • Cari

    pj says:
    05/27/2011 at 1:18 pm

    *shrug* Maybe, but Lee didn’t have to address the situation anymore than Nigel did. It would have died a slow death and been forgotten by now.

    Lee and Nigel addressing the situation isn’t the problem. As long as they both acted like polite, mature adults, it would be fine. The problem here is that one of them isn’t generally polite or mature.

  • Landmd

    I hope Lee is sitting back watching all this and penning some nice angry songs atm!

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Lee and Nigel addressing the situation isn’t the problem. As long as they both acted like polite, mature adults, it would be fine. The problem here is that one of them isn’t being polite or mature.

    You’re assuming that Lee was telling the truth and Nigel is lying, I take it?

    We will never know who is telling the truth probably, or if it was a big misunderstanding.

    Lee didn’t have to claim it was right before the performance. To me, that wasn’t classy or mature, but passive aggressive. He could have let it go.

  • Falfor

    Nigel has proven time and time again what an a$$ he can be, all about making himself look good and the $$$. He wants credit not due and expects encouragement not earned. He wants a job next year. All that is fine in business, but when that business relys on public opinion, someone needs to wake up and smell the coffee. Last season had no help or guidance and most everyone of them had very little experience, all amidst the turmoil of behind the scenes changes. Not everything was done to promote season 9. Personally season 8 and 7 were the best and not much seems to be changing that for me.

  • HR

    I’ve read both statements. Lee clearly left the impression Nigel asked him within the moment even if he didn’t name the date and hour. Nigel claims it was a week in advance. If Nigel is correct then Lee intentionally left a false impression with the media and fans unless there was a miscommunication between the two camps that left him not receiving the message. I don’t know what the truth is here but if Nigel is accurate I hope Lee was the victim of a miscommunication that left him not receiving the invite. The other scenario would reflect badly on him.

  • Cari

    pj says:
    05/27/2011 at 1:27 pm
    You’re assuming that Lee was telling the truth and Nigel is lying, I take it?

    I am assuming this, yes, based on the conversation I had with him on Wed…. And also based on all the Nigel drama I’ve witnessed over the years haha

    If you believe Nigel that is fine with me, I just don’t in this situation. I am not ALWAYS against Nigel. I have defended him in other situations, but I think he is in the wrong this time.

  • Elliegrll

    Lee didn’t have to claim it was right before the performance. To me, that wasn’t classy or mature, but passive aggressive. He could have let it go.

    I don’t think that was passive aggressive, he was defending himself. Nigel’s first tweet was passive aggressive and catty. Lee didn’t have to answer back, but I can understand why he did, since from his view, Nigel was throwing dirt on his name.

  • brewster

    Why would Nigel want DeWyze standing anywhere near the newly crowned “winner”? It would only remind everyone just how utterly useless and meaningless winning is. DeWyze on stage would have been the ultimate buzzkill. I’m surprised he was even allowed on the premises.

  • Incipit

    Oh Pshaw. “IF” Nigel asked Lee to participate in the Finale a week before, then where was Nigel’s response when Lee stated earlier he was ‘not’ invited? Nigel just let that one go by? Not likely.

    His last minute attempt at damage control when he discovered people ‘did’ care that last year’s winner could sit in the audience, but not perform on the stage is not working – and the ineffectual CYA is only letting his @ss hang out in public – in all its Passive/Aggressive glory.

    If Lee hadn’t come anyway, Nigel could have spun that – but he was right there – proof that Nigel’s ‘executive’ decision not to include him in the Finale started this whole thing.

    Own it, Nigel. If you have the cojones.

  • Avari

    I can’t believe this. In the space of 2-3 days, I’ve gone from “Lee who? Oh, yeah, that boring dude who looks depressed all the time”, to suddenly being in his corner and defending him. Heck, I might even buy his album now, just to support the guy.

    And in other news, Nigel continues to be show maturity, class and manners in handling this matter…oh, wait.

  • Ladydove2

    I have to give him credit for even showing up to the Finale. Like Nigel previously said, they don’t have time for him. He was the reigning AI that night for Godsake! Give him at least common courtesy whether you like him or not. And they made sure that they seated him where the camera for sure will have a glimpse of him. It made me uncomfortable watching it. They didn’t have to show him on TV. Nigel knows what he was doing.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I can’t believe this. In the space of 2-3 days, I’ve gone from “Lee who? Oh, yeah, that boring dude who looks depressed all the time”, to suddenly being in his corner and defending him. Heck, I might even buy his album now, just to support the guy.

    Buy his pre-idol stuff. It’s pretty good.

  • koshka

    Avari says:
    05/27/2011 at 1:58 pm
    I can’t believe this. In the space of 2-3 days, I’ve gone from “Lee who? Oh, yeah, that boring dude who looks depressed all the time”, to suddenly being in his corner and defending him. Heck, I might even buy his album now, just to support the guy.

    And in other news, Nigel continues to be show maturity, class and manners in handling this matter…oh, wait.

    LOL so true.. huh

  • GwendolynD

    Well, Lee surprised me:

    I have no hard feelings towards Nigel, Idol, or anyone else. I love music, and that’s what I’m going to focus on. I support American Idol and all it has done for me. I respect the decisions made for the Finale, and hope alls well that ends well. Thank you guys for everything:) AND I’m getting a tattoo today :)

  • tomr

    It’s getting to sound like a divorce proceeding. He said this. No, he said that. Bottom line…was Lee asked to participate in any way shape or form prior to Wednesday? If he wasn’t, shame on Nigel. If he was, shame on Lee. Regardless, let’s have some growing up done immediately!

  • Ladydove2

    Lee I applaude you for being decent and humble human being. Nigel, I hope you can learn something from this young man!

  • tomr

    AWWWWW…Lee is getting Nigel’s name tattooed on his derriere.

  • HR

    So Lee isn’t denying he was asked a week in advance.

    High road? Lee casted Nigel in a certain light by giving the impression he was asked to present a trophy while the finale was in progress. If that wasn’t true and he was asked in advance then he allowed a false perception to stand that benefited him. Nigel isn’t a saint and he has been far from eloquent but I’m not awarding Lee praise if he was less then honest about what happened just because he prepared a nice statement that conveniently doesn’t address Nigel’s accusation.

  • GwendolynD

    So Lee isn’t denying he was asked a week in advance.

    Nope. I see as him saying I’ve told you my side, and I’m moving on. End of story.

  • idolfan92

    Sorry, I don’t believe that Lee would’ve blatantly lied to his fans (that’s who he’s been responding to all these times, after all) about being called up last minute. Nigel, however, I can easily believe. After all, NIGEL is the one keeping this stupid feud going (it’s really not even a feud, since Lee just keeps saying how he respects what happened and he has no hard feelings!) And Nigel is the one who didn’t respond to the situation until after it riled up enough fan support for Lee. He probably thought no one would care! And Nigel is the one who is making stupid comments like “I guess he was shy..” Why on earth should we believe him? This was a last chance try at making himself look better AND putting down Lee once again. Idol chose to not have him perform and not even acknowledge his existence there when he was right behind Ryan. They can give plugs for everything under the sun but not 10 seconds for Lee’s upcoming tour through half the country?

    I should also add, Lee doesn’t need to deny what Nigel has recently said. He already told us his side. Lee wants to move on from this, and unlike Nigel, he’s actually capable of doing so without throwing more flames on the fire. If he were to come back and be like “Nigel’s lying!!” this thing would just keep blowing up. No, Lee is too classy and respectful to keep this stupid thing going.

    I am a proud Lee Dewyze fan. I have his pre-idol music, I bought his album the day it came out, I am going to see his tour in June. Lee has shown nothing but love for his fans and music and respect for all the people around him, and I will continue to support his career wherever it goes.

  • TwigLA

    I don’t believe Nigel for a minute.

    I’d love to hear what the other Idols think of it all. When Cantiello was interviewing Kris and pointed out Lee to him. Kris turned and said (sad voice) ‘Awww, Lee’

  • HR

    People can believe what they want. Until Lee provides a specific timeframe I consider this unsettled by each side.

  • tinawina

    Everybody involved should just STFU now. Hopefully it ends here.

  • wjmtv

    Oh, Nigel. *sniff* Your mother must be so proud.

  • Landmd

    It is most likely over now, guess we will see.

  • kvwicks13

    I think Lee’s response was a way of saying……I’m done with this whole thing. If this twitter war continues….things will just get worse.

  • Trina

    Amen Tinawina! OMG they both need to back away from Twitter.

  • car3278sweet

    Wow. Just realized I’m already out of popcorn. And since Nigel will likely respond again in a douche-bag sorta way, I should probably hightail it to the store. :-)

    I am amused that Lee is suddenly getting all this publicity. If he had been allowed to perform, my bet is it wouldn’t have done as much for him publicity-wise as all this. Irony lives. LOL.

    Country music fans are buyers, so I think Scotty and Lauren will do better but I think that’s the only reason.

    But many of Scotty/Lauren’s fans were not country music fans. Many of us who do follow and buy country music see these kids as nice novelty acts right now. After listening to the singles released, I’m not buying. Will their other singles be better? Will their albums be refreshing and give us some good songs? I’ll check them out when they are released, but I’m not holding my breath for a McCreery/Suddeth record. They are going to have to prove they make music I’m willing to pay for.

    While I’m happy for both of them with the I-Tunes success, Lee did reach #3 last year with a quite absymal “Beautiful Day” – so again, not ready to climb on the “it’s inevitable Scotty/Lauren will be successful” bandwagon.

    Will some of their AI peeps buy their record ’cause they are so cute? Yep. Is this a receipe for long term success in the country music industry? Nope.

  • BrandoC15

    What is up with Nigel hating people that are from Chicago? ;) First Haley, and now he’s hating on Lee?

  • borntorun

    it’s amazing how the smallest thing can come between people, but then again, that’s just finding out who’s real and who ain’t.
    Lee is definitely the bigger person in this, and his tweets show that he doesn’t wanna keep doing this. He’s in this for the music & just wanna play. I think we should let it go.

  • ldjfan

    Oh and I found this at tvline.com: Nigel is lying. We ran into him at the Starbucks by the Nokia before the finale. When we asked why Lee wasn’t going to be on the show, he said that it was a new season with new judges and Idol had moved on. When we pointed out that it was tradition for the prior winner to perform on the finale, he said they didn’t have time for Lee.
    Comment by Musica1
    http://www.tvline.com/2011/05/american-idol-finale-feud-lythgoe-dewyze/

  • CRB

    Nigel’s a sleazebag, and Lee’s a standup guy. Nigel’s also a great producer and Lee isn’t a particularly great winner for the show, so I’m guessing the page has been turned for DeWyze and Idol.

  • Niall

    I am amused that Lee is suddenly getting all this publicity.

    It’s not really the kind of publicity that does him any good. Yeah, he’s taking the “high road” but the overall narrative of the story is “Nigel disowns lowest selling AI champ.” I don’t know that any situation that serves to remind people how badly he flopped is beneficial to Lee, even if he’s the sympathetic one. People come out of this feeling sorry for the poor kicked around schlub, but it doesn’t help his career.

  • Ratna12

    All I know is that I highly doubt Lee will get an invite back to Idol anytime soon.

    Unfortunately, this is probably true for Lee.

    And Kris, if you will be asked by some media about all this, please just say “No Comment”. I really don’t want him to be in the middle of this, because Nigel is a mean, mean human being.

    Nigel knows he is in power, and why can’t he just let it go ?

  • Glambert4321

    Eh, didn’t miss Lee at all. And probably wouldn’t have remembered him if he was there. Big deal over nothing.

  • gabriel oak

    Why would anyone believe Nigel? In an interview he did with Michael Slezak on TVLine, he said that Haley had only been criticized about two times by the judges. He also said he has no influence over the voting. Right.

    If Nigel had been paying attention to past shows, he would have known that past Idols have presented keys to the free cars in the past two seasons.

    I forget who presented Kris with the trophy–was it Ryan Seacrest? I remember that I thought the trophy looked cheap and tacky.

  • car3278sweet

    People come out of this feeling sorry for the poor kicked around schlub, but it doesn’t help his career.

    I’m not sure anything can help Lee’s current career with RCA/19 at this point. But being an underdog always plays well in America and I do think Nigel’s attacks and Lee’s gracious responses have earned Lee some brownie points with the public.

    I’m not a fan, but, because of this, I have kinda sidled over to thinking about actually following Lee post RCA. Maybe if he gets to go back to his indie angsty self, I’ll buy some of his stuff.

  • katielynne

    Too many posts to read through and if this posted before, I’m sorry. Taylor wasn’t asked either to even perform the following year, so Lee has one up on him!

  • idolfan92

    Eh, didn’t miss Lee at all. And probably wouldn’t have remembered him if he was there. Big deal over nothing.

    And what if it was one of your favorite Idols? Sorry, but enough people voted for Lee last year for him to win the whole thing. I don’t think someone who feels meh or disdain towards him would’ve been inspired to vote for him last year, so it’s safe to say that the people who voted for him would have enjoyed hearing him sing a 2-minute song. I know I missed him greatly, and I would’ve replayed his performance dozens of times if he had been on. However, there’s plenty of winners and runners-up who I would feel like you do about Lee had they performed. That doesn’t mean I think their fans don’t deserve that moment.

  • idolfan92

    Too many posts to read through and if this posted before, I’m sorry. Taylor wasn’t asked either to even perform the following year, so Lee has one up on him!

    Yes, he was. Hicks sang on the Season 6 finale.

  • girlygirl

    TwigLA

    I think the other Idols are smart enough to stay clear of this whole thing, at least publicly

  • fadetowhite

    Maybe only a Brit would think it was okay to invite Lee onto the stage at the last minute.

    Some Americans really do have a weird idea of ‘Brits’… :lol

    As a Brit, I think the whole production attitude towards Lee was scumbaggy and he was absolutely right to turn down the ‘trophy handover’ idea, whether it was made a month, a week, a day, an hour or a minute before the event.

    Every other winner has been asked to perform on the finale, regardless of their sales or the way they are viewed by the media.

    As has been said, there were plenty of other fillers that could have been left off or trimmed to give him his three minutes up there.

    If they had thereafter chosen to forget he exists, well OK, because – let’s face it – his sales were negligable and for a first Idol album that is just a sad fact.

    But this was a really cold and nasty snub, so why the hell should he be grateful for some last minute consolation prize.

    It’s bs and Nigel should be ashamed of himself for kicking a guy when he’s struggling to hold his head above water, with far more class than Nigel himself has ever shown.

    And, as with so many others, I am definitely not a fan of Lee’s singing and thought his victory over Crystal last year was pretty much inexplicable.

    When something stinks it just stinks.

  • jpfan

    I’m confused. What trophy? Is there some physical trophy the winner gets because I don’t remember seeing one.

    They just announce the winner’s name and then they sing their cheesy single. I don’t remember a trophy being awarded.

  • Trina

    Little FYI, I know there’s been jokes since they started that trophy thing but its actual not cheap (or tacky looking IMO after seeing it up close) but they’re made by the same company that makes the Oscars.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Yes, he was. Hicks sang on the Season 6 finale.

    Yes he did. Not only that–Idol invited Taylor back to promote his Indie album. He sang “Seven Mile Breakdown” on the Season 8 Top 5 results show.

    And of course, Taylor came back with the rest of the Idol winners for last year’s finale to honor Simon Cowell.

    So no, Idol has not snubbed Taylor entirely.

  • jpfan

    So Lee was supposed to stand on the stage in that mess of people and give Scotty the trophy. I’m not surprised he said no to that. They could have had him do two minutes of a song and then represent Ford and do the keys thing with Ryan.

    Anyway, Nigel should stay away from twitter for awhile.

  • doggiedr

    I’m not sure anything can help Lee’s current career with RCA/19 at this point. But being an underdog always plays well in America and I do think Nigel’s attacks and Lee’s gracious responses have earned Lee some brownie points with the public.

    I’m not convinced that “the public” even knows or cares about this little kerfluffle.
    The only people following it closely enough to understand it all are those within a small subset of the bubble.

    Online fandom can be very misleading because a few very wordy fans can make us think the whole country cares about something when really, they just don’t.

  • Montavilla

    I’m confused. What trophy? Is there some physical trophy the winner gets because I don’t remember seeing one.

    They just announce the winner’s name and then they sing their cheesy single. I don’t remember a trophy being awarded.

    Apparently at the opening of The American Idol Experience, all the past Idol winners were presented with a trophy that looks like a big, old-fashioned table microphone.

    When Kris Allen won, he was presented with the trophy, but I can see how you’d miss it. It was sort of shoved into his hands right after the announcement and Kris didn’t know what to do with it. (That moment still cracks me up.)

    I don’t recall seeing it make an appearance at the Season 9 Finale, and I’d wondered occasionally whether Lee actually got one or not. I guess he did, but I have no idea when it happened.

    It would make sense to have the current American Idol be on hand to pass the Trophy onto the winner. It’s awkward to have Ryan do it and make the announcement.

    But if that’s going to become part of the tradition, then that moment needs to be planned out. Ryan should introduce the former winner, have him (or her) take a bow, maybe ask for a few encouraging words to the finalists, then bring out the accountant with the results.

    I could see that being a nice moment. Right now, the trophy is just a hunk of metal that the new Idol has to figure out how to juggle while he (or she) is trying to sing.

  • lucy

    I could see that being a nice moment. Right now, the trophy is just a hunk of metal that the new Idol has to figure out how to juggle while he (or she) is trying to sing.

    I’d suggest throwing it at dropping it on Nigel’s foot.

  • steph6449

    steph6449 I know it’s been posted here several times, but Lee’s original tweet was just responding to his many followers’ questions about what he would be performing on Idol. It was a big twitter debate going on for a few days before. It wasn’t to diss Idol.

    I didn’t think it was to diss Idol. My point though, was that Lee could have simply answered the fan questions by saying he would attend the finale but wasn’t performing. He didn’t have to say why, or give out the bonus tidbit that he wasn’t asked. If I were Lee, I would have kept that to myself, not so much to spare the show any controversy as it’s not too flattering to myself that I wasn’t asked. Or he could have just said that none of the past winners except Carrie would be performing.

    If Lee was asked a week ago to appear and handoff the “trophy,” I guess that’s ok. It might not be the most glamorous thing to do in the finale, and yes, the focus would be on the winner, not you. But I don’t see much harm in it, actually that part of the show probably would have the most viewers, so that might be a little upside.

    It’s curious if he declined unless he was upset not to be spotlighted more directly with an appearance or performance. (Assuming Lee knew of the request, and there wasn’t a communications screwup with his reps or something like that.)

    Seems like a weird situation all around whatever is going on in the reality of it. And in the PR of it, sometimes I just wish someone would take people’s twitter accounts away and send them to timeout :)

  • AIaddict

    Dammit, I am wearing a Lee Dewyze t shirt to the concert this year.

  • brian_ny1976

    certain comments are going to come back and bite nigel on his ass and i surely hope they do…nigel is a piece of garbage always has and will be…id love!!!! one minute with nigel in a room id seriously punch every last horse tooth out of his mouth

  • CRB

    idolfan92 says:
    05/27/2011 at 3:29 pm

    Yes, he was. Hicks sang on the Season 6 finale.

    I think the tacit implication of that post was that Tay Tay’s performance was so forgettable that even his purported fans couldn’t remember it.

    And before the vestiges of the Soul Patrol starts drawing their daggers….I’m just kidding.

  • Kirsten

    What is up with Nigel hating people that are from Chicago? First Haley, and now he’s hating on Lee?

    He’s probably had to transit through O’Hare.

  • Jablea

    The trophy was first revealed in Season 8. Kris and Adam did a little skit about it. Ryan announced Kris’ win a model in a long dress came out with the trophy to hand to Kris.

  • songsungblue

    What is up with Nigel hating people that are from Chicago? First Haley, and now he’s hating on Lee?

    He’s probably had to transit through O’Hare.

    Oh snaps! Kirsten, you are ta funny!

    I have to agree with steph6449. He made sure everyone knew he wasn’t asked. That was kind of not good. He had every right, but it did set off the fans, who pissed off Nigel in turn. YMMV.

  • Kirsten

    I don’t recall seeing it make an appearance at the Season 9 Finale, and I’d wondered occasionally whether Lee actually got one or not. I guess he did, but I have no idea when it happened.

    I swear that I remember hearing from one of the tour reports that one of his fans (or maybe a reporter at some point) asked Lee about it and he said that he hadn’t gotten his trophy, yet, but he thought he would get one eventually.

    So, throughout this entire brouhaha, I’ve been imagining the situation where Lee never got the trophy (Ken is such a moron when it comes to doing things, I could totally see him forgetting) is being asked to hand over a trophy to the new kid. I’d be a little outraged too.

    Here is how it went:
    [One week before the finale]

    Nigel: Okay, that’s that. We’ve squeezed every last second out of the air time. We can lay this schedule to rest. We’ve got Gaga, Beyonce, Tim, Carrie, Bono, the works. This baby is going to be perfect.

    Ken: Um…Nigel, what about Lee?

    Nigel: Who?

    Ken: The guy who won last year? Maybe we can have him sing with the kids in the opening group number.

    Nigel: Born that Way? Seriously? I know. Why don’t we have him award the trophy to Scotty when he wins? A passing of the torch. Set it up will you?

    Ken: [Sh1t!!!! I knew there was something I forgot to do last year. Why do these things always happen to me? If Lee wasn’t so boring, I wouldn’t have forgotten to give him the trophy. It was probably his guitar. I’m powerless to do anything around one of those things. Hey, I know, I’ll give him his trophy when I ask him. Now, where are those mini-donuts?]

    [Day of the Finale]
    Nigel: Where is Lee? Where is Lee? Debbie, where is Lee? Okay, Ryan go to commercial while we get Lee!! Ken, where is Lee. Nevermind I found him [races up the aisle

    Ken: [Sh1t!!!! That damn kid and his guitar did it again. Totally forgot!]

    Nigel: Here, Lee, get up on the stage now and give Scotty…er…the winner this trophy after we announce his..er..their name [Trying to shove Lee up the aisle]

    Lee: What? Who? What? [Seriously, this dude wants me to give out a trophy I never got? A$$hat!]. Forget, it twerp.

    Nigel: Eh? Eh? [Rushes back to the stage and tosses trophy to JLo before Debbie counts them back from commercial] What was that?

    [Two Days Later in the middle of a twitter war]

    Nigel: What is with this kid? We clearly asked him a week ago to do it and then suddenly we can’t find him and he calls me a twerp and wouldn’t do it. Nearly messed up everything. This is ridiculous.

    Intern: That’s odd. What did he say when you asked him to do it before the show?

    Nigel: Well, I didn’t ask him. I was busy. Ken was the one who asked…[Intern pops a “seriously?” eyebrow and they both turn to stare at Ken happily munching on mini-donuts]

    Ken: [Sh1t!!!!]

  • tripp_ncwy

    The trophy was first revealed in Season 8. Kris and Adam did a little skit about it. Ryan announced Kris’ win a model in a long dress came out with the trophy to hand to Kris.

    Previous winners prior to Kris received their trophies at the opening of the American Idol Experience at Disney World where all 7 winners were there to receive them. Kris was the first to receive his trophy on live tv. I think Lee received his at the Idol Experience when he visited after he won.

  • Nina1

    He didn’t have to say why, or give out the bonus tidbit that he wasn’t asked.

    I understand perfectly why Lee “overspoke;” I’ve done it a thousand times. Some of us just don’t think of that magic combination of words that clarifies a situation without the entire truth. I certainly have never learned to; it’s a gift to be able to tell just enough.

  • tigervixxxen

    I hope that this is the end of it from both sides, and it should be. Yes this is getting a lot more press than if Lee had just been on the show. As much as it would be best if it dies down now I don’t think the press is hurting Lee, he wasn’t getting fantastic press to begin with. The reson why it blew up is when Nigel tweeted about it. When Lee initially said he wasn’t invited it was to cut off speculation. There was already a bunch of theories going around including if he declined to perform, if he was even able to do it after Asia ect, ect. I’d don’t see any problem in giving an explanation. But it is what it is at this point and I’m a proud fan of Lee’s.

  • naz

    OMG Kirsten, you are the best :D

    Anyway, Nigel is acting childish to be honest. I am not at all a Lee fan, but I do think he is treated disrespectfully and I feel absolutely sorry for him. I just wish him all the best with everything and hopefully, with new album or single (I doubt it!), we can see him as more popular than he is now.

  • edisto

    I was looking forward to seeing Lee perform on the show. As I do not twitter I had no idea he wasnt going to. However, I am sure that when Lee twittered he wasn’t going to be performing his followers asked why not. The correct response if you aren’t asked to do something is….they didn’t ask me. Duh!!!!!!!! So there you go… they didnt ask him.

  • Nina1

    Kirsten, your dialogue remids me of another potential one regarding all the stories about Haley subbing for Lauren: Haley is in a golf cart, she is rehearsing, they can’t locate her, she thinks it a great compliment that she was asked, Lauren says she turned it down.

    Kind of makes it seem like TPTB can’t tell anyone a straight story to save their lives.

  • webster

    Personally, I think passing on the trophy, or some form of being there during the announcing of the new winner, is a great way to include the previous winner. Introduce them, let the audience clap, let them do some part of the presentation. But I’m one who’s not that interested in hearing old contestants on the current season.

    Idol seems to make their plans without a lot of lead time, so asking a week prior seems reasonable, but two minutes prior does not. Having a tweet-spat over it is unbecoming to all parties, but since it happened, I’d like it better if Lee directly addressed the claim that he was asked a week in advance.

  • car3278sweet

    Kirsten. Seriously. Can you write dialogue for a new TV series, ’cause I would so ditch AI and watch your show. Thanks for the big belly laugh. :-)

    I’m not convinced that “the public” even knows or cares about this little kerfluffle.
    The only people following it closely enough to understand it all are those within a small subset of the bubble.

    Well, it has cracked the idol bubble. My country DJs were dissing on it as I drove home.

  • JGLucky

    I never thought Lee should have won in the first place, but the guy is such a class act about all of this. Nigel is such a rude, vile human.

  • idolhound2011

    I really believe his record label was never going to promote Lee. they were dropping him before his album even came out.I do think his fan base is growing.I do believe that this blog was helping to bring him down. I will alway be a fan. Hope he makes another album NO MATER WHAT LABEL I will always buy .

  • 50diamonds

    “As for the support from Jim Cantiello and other bloggers, it is too little too late. If they had not been bashing Lee from the start, ma be the show producers would have felt that they ought to show some respect for him……….they have dismissed and ridiculed him for a whole year….”

    This is so true. The Idol bloggers trash the contestants and winners for sport. Add Sleazak to jambajim above. There are others as well. At least Lyndsey Parker tries to be fair. But you get my drift. Nice of them to defend him now, but they have trashed him nonstop all year. I think they can join Nigel in scumbagville.

  • HermeticallySealed

    Well, it has cracked the idol bubble. My country DJs were dissing on it as I drove home.

    It was also on the MSN home page for a while.

  • Montavilla

    You know who was really dissed on Finale Night? The one idol who really made it all happen?

    Kristy Lee Cook.

    How could we miss it? Season 7’s country hope who sacrificed a horse in order to compete. The woman whose curse has spread over the last four years, until the prophecy of Kris (Scot)ty Lee (David) Cook was fulfilled. By a country star no less!

    Tremble, Nigel Lythgoe. Tremble. There are larger forces at work than you are aware of.

    A woman can’t win Idol? She will still have her way. Perhaps the next three men to win will will be Ka, Ren, and (Insert first name here) Rodriguez… the first Latin Idol!

    Bwahahahaha!

  • Dlynne

    I can’t say I have followed Nigel or others behind the scenes, but I don’t think just the one tweet constitutes “bullying.”

    I consider Nigel’s passive/aggressive behavior in this instance to be bullying. It was uncalled for.

  • cokezero

    Lee should be grateful people are even talking about him. Nigel’s tweets have been the most I’ve heard about him in months.

  • kvwicks13

    Well of course Lee’s fans know what he’s been up to since we follow him closely…he just came back from a tour from Asia.

    I have no idea what Crystal and the others from Season 9 are up to since I don’t follow them.

  • TwigLA

    I’m not convinced that “the public” even knows or cares about this little kerfluffle.

    Fox LA morning news reported on Lee ‘refusing’ to give Scotty the trophy and read Nigel’s tweet on the air.

    Kris may have been awarded it on the show, but last I heard it was still in LA and he doesn’t have his either.

  • Trina

    This blog helped bring Lee down? Damn who know we had so much power!

  • soverymel

    LOL forever Montavilla!

  • Brook52

    Well I hope this motivates more people listen to Lee instead of just assuming that they don’t like his music- take a listen to Beautiful Like You and Pretty Eyes on Youtube- they are sung with such passion and honesty- for me it is what separates him from all of the other musicial artists that are popular at this time.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Kris may have been awarded it on the show, but last I heard it was still in LA and he doesn’t have his either.

    Why would it be in LA when he no longer lives there? It’s back in AR with him in a box somewhere.

  • Ratna12

    Maybe we have a witness.

    On today’s channel 11 Fox LA, Dorothy Lucy who is the
    entertainment reporter of the news and an idol junkie reported this.

    DL: So the producer of Idol and our good friend Nigel, said that Lee refused to present the top prize to Scotty and Nigel tweeted,” I was so upset…”

    Other reporter: So, was it a tradition ?

    DL: Not necessarily. But Lee was there. He was sitting in the 5th row. He wasn’t in the show & nobody pointed that he was there until the commercial break.

    And during the break near the end, cause I was sitting in that row, I saw Nigel go over and talked to Lee. I guess he was asking him to go up stage. I guess Lee didn’t want to go.

  • idolhound2011

    I agree with you on the bashing 50diamonds, but not winners, only one Lee. no body gets the bashing that Lee gets, NOBODY.

  • Mtlfan

    so if Lee refused earlier why did Nigel went to ask him 5 min before the crowning? something not logical here.

  • soverymel

    I agree with you on the bashing 50diamonds, but not winners, only one Lee. no body gets the bashing that Lee gets, NOBODY.

    Aaaand Lee quickly goes from sympathetic underdog getting a raw deal to Idol’s most noble martyr. I feel my urge to make a protest sympathy album purchase subsiding.

  • webster

    so if Lee refused earlier why did Nigel went to ask him 5 min before the crowning? something not logical here.

    A) MJ’s post says he was asked a week in advance. It doesn’t say he refused. He might have failed to respond, for example.
    B) Sometimes when people say no to a request, the requesters ask a second time.

    Information is incomplete, but I see no logical fallacy.

  • songsungblue

    Looks like his girlfriend is equally p.o’d:

    jonnawalsh Jonna Walsh
    Let’s give a huge round of applause to American Idol for supporting their reigning champion. NOT. fools. Idiots. Unsupportive jerks. Yep.

    I find it slightly disingenuous to believe that everyone around Lee was tweeting their hostility, and he was all, “No for reals! I f’love my Idol family!” Come on, he was PISSED. He had to have groused to his family and girlfriend. If he had taken it in stride, I have a feeling they might have too.

    Here’s a thought. The franchise held him responsible for the near demise of the show [I’m not saying it’s fair, I’m saying they did]. So there was something brewing already, and it flew to the surface. That’s my guess.

  • kvwicks13

    Where does it confirm that he was asked a week in advance?

  • Weebs787

    Looks like his girlfriend is equally p.o’d:

    This is the only thing keeping me from being 100% team Lee. Had Mike and Jonna just said nothing, the only thing we’d have to base Lee’s side on would be Lee’s tweets, which for the most part have been nothing but respectful. But knowing how much Mike and Jonna reacted BEFORE the finale, makes me question their side a bit. Something happened before the show to piss them off enough to tweet those things, and I don’t know how angry you’d get just simply not being asked to perform. And if that is why they’re so angry, I’d just say get over it. heh. But Nigel has certainly been trying to vilify Lee to the point where I almost want to side with Lee. So for now, I’m team “Please just stfu both of you and continue on your merry way w/o each other” :)

  • annie12120

    The franchise held him responsible for the near demise of the show [I’m not saying it’s fair, I’m saying they did]. So

    Hmm.. there were 9 others in the Top 10 and 4 crappy judges… and the producers who chose the top contestants, so I don’t think Lee was the “only” one last year in bringing down the big cheese that is AI. Thank god Scotty was there this year to save this show from the brink of collapse ;)

  • songsungblue

    Note that I pointed out it wasn’t fair – but I do get a sense they feel this way. Lee quickly went from winner to punchline. So did AI. Is it appropriate? No. You’re right, of course. The casting, the Simon factor – that’s essentially what sunk the season. But I think that could be behind Nigel’s nasty edge.

  • webster

    05/27/2011 at 11:00 pm
    Where does it confirm that he was asked a week in advance?

    AFAIK, nothing is confirmed. Nigel tweets one thing, Lee tweets something different. It’s anyone’s guess, what the truth is. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, I tend to assume people are telling the truth, which could easily be the case here: Nigel makes an offer a week before the show. Too little, too late, or whatever, Lee either refuses or ignores ( or doesn’t hear about it). Nigel makes the offer again 2 minutes before the presentation. Both tweets technically true.

  • goboywonder

    Too little, too late, or whatever, Lee either refuses or ignores ( or doesn’t hear about it). Nigel makes the offer again 2 minutes before the presentation. Both tweets technically true.

    If the invitation was made a week before and Lee had either refused, ignored (or didn’t hear about it), why was there not an attempt to follow up the request or get a confirmation before the show actually started? Wasn’t Lee out doing press for them? To ask only minutes before he was to have made the announcement seems disingenuous. Also, is it known why Lee didn’t do the KIIS viewing party?

  • samgamgee

    Ugh, Nigel is such a drama queen.

  • Axxxel

    @ Jablea says:05/27/2011 at 12:01 pm and
    @ Montavilla says:05/27/2011 at 12:57 pm
    I also remember the Adam Lambert issue at last years’ final.. Adam Lambert said that he had no idea that he was supposed to be on stage with the other past Idol finalists….that he was just to be in the audience.
    He thought that only the Idol winnersWINNERS were going to grace the stage….And when he saw the other finalists on the stage … he was like …oh dear &^$^#$^#$(#()…

  • tyrpen

    I saw an interesting exchange on twitter. Someone said to Nigel ” Don’t the fans know that when they insult you they only make it worse for their idol” ?
    And Nigel agreed. So is he admitting that he is a small minded, vindictive, ahole that gets even by taking it out on the idol what some fan says that the idol has no control over?

    Sounds that way to me.