Nigel Lythgoe Talks New American Idol Judges on Twitter

After executive producer,Nigel Lythgoe asked a few Adam Lambert fans to cool it with the spam tweets (They were hitting Nigel with a ton of tweets advocating for Adam as judge. But that’s not what this post is about) he settled down and had a little twitter discussion with fans about choosing new candidates for the American Idol judges’ panel.


Look at Nigel, returning tweets about Ben Folds and Harry Connick. Two candidates who I think would make excellent judges.  He returned tweets about Kelly Clarkson and Cheryl Cole too.

AND he agreed that potential candidates for the panel should care about music and that the process should not be all about the judges.

It reads like a laundry list of the stuff we’ve been talking about here.

I get the feeling Nigel is just pandering. Telling us what we want to hear. And even if he really is sincere, FOX and the higher ups likely have a different criteria for choosing the new judges and for what American Idol will ultimately look like next season.

  • http://twitter.com/bagel08 John S

    Hopefully those annoying spam tweets will make Nigel realize the potential twitter nightmare he will have next year if they decide to have Adam as a judge. Maybe it will make all the producers reconsider…I can only hope!

    I would LOVE to be a fly on the wall at those judges discussion meetings.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    I have suggested Ben Folds to Nigel at least 30 times (not all on the same day).  He also agreed that all three judges from “The Sing-Off” were great judges!  He is getting annoyed with the Glamberts tweeting.  However, if he wants that to stop, just say “no” to Adam Lambert.  It is a bit of a game, isn’t it?

  • Anonymous

    Oh puleez that attention is what twitter is for. Nigel is just jerking chains. I think all fans should chill. But the interest from any base wont solidify or kill a deal. If poor Nigel survived season two even before twitter he will whether this storm or privitize his twitter

  • Anonymous

    I agree with Nigel. Harry Connick Jr, Kelly Clarkson, and Ben Folds would all make excellent judges. There are  many that would be good judges and be very interested. It looks like Mariah is a lock but the other judge could be someone that hasn’t even been discussed or thought of much by fans. I think Randy stays for this year.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    So does that mean then that stars to pull in ratings aren’t the be all and end all? I like all those suggestions, I would add Keith Urban and Seal as well.

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

    One of the reasons I liked The Sing Off is because the judges knew what they were talking about and proved it, especially Ben! The audience can tell when a judge doesn’t know what he is talking about or is B.S.ing us. I remember the judges falling over themselves and praising performances during the last season of AI that I thought were nothing more than mediocre. I would sit and shake my head wonder why. Then I would come onto this blog and see that many others were reacting the same lol. It is about the singing, but the judges are important in weeding out the mediocre singers.

  • Anonymous

    I think you give too much credit to Nigel.

    Here’s what MJ wrote above:

    “And even if he really is sincere, FOX and the higher ups likely have a different criteria for choosing the new judges and for what American Idol will ultimately look like next season.”

    And I agree, because Nigel IS NOT the decision maker in this hoopla. Fox and the company who owned AI now will make THAT decision.

  • http://twitter.com/Miztig Miz

    I don’t stalk Twitter all day, so I found it ironic to see Nigel’s tweets (I follow him) when I logged in yesterday. 

    I hope he and the rest of the panel take into consideration this fan lobbying/bullying when choosing the next crop of judges. Most fans are saying they do not want the focus to be on the judges, but on the contestants. Yet, if you put Adam Lambert on that panel, his fans will make certain that it is all about the Glambert.

    I would be thrilled if they managed to get Harry Connick Jr and Ben Folds. I want it to be about the music and I want people who are well versed. With those two, I can tolerate a Mariah Carey (read ‘big name’ diva) on the panel.

  • Larc

    Nigel probably has about as much direct control over selecting judges this time as one of us does.  My guess is FOX is making all the decisions.  But they might listen to his input… or not.

  • Anonymous

    Cheryl Cole would  be brilliant. But I’m sure they’d never hire her. :’(

  • supersonic

    Hopefully those annoying spam tweets will make Nigel realize the
    potential twitter nightmare he will have next year if they decide to
    have Adam as a judge. Maybe it will make all the producers
    reconsider…I can only hope!

    I hope he and the rest of the panel take into consideration this fan
    lobbying/bullying when choosing the next crop of judges. Most fans are
    saying they do not want the focus to be on the judges, but on the
    contestants. Yet, if you put Adam Lambert on that panel, his fans will
    make certain that it is all about the Glambert.

    This.  So much.

  • everything

    Yes.  Harry Connick Jr.  He was great as a mentor and will be great as a judge.

    Most fans are saying they do not want the focus to be on the judges, but on the contestants. Yet, if you put Adam Lambert on that panel, his fans will make certain that it is all about the Glambert.

    So true. It will turn into the Glamnation circus – to promote Lambert to no end – what’s he wearing, how brilliant his comments are, blah, blah, blah.

  • http://twitter.com/TarheelShari Sharon S.

    So true. It will turn into the Glamnation circus – to promote Lambert
    to no end – what’s he wearing, how brilliant his comments are, blah,
    blah, blah.

    People seem to be conveniently ignoring those who hate Adam, who would make sure to discredit every single word out of his mouth and point out how ridiculous he looks.  Adam inspires discourse, both good and bad.  Both sides are pretty damn persistent in pushing their respective points of view.

    How much does any of this impact anything outside of the Idol bubble and its associated online presence?  Not at all.  Most viewers don’t follow Idol online and aren’t even aware of, much less care about, all the associated fan wars and wank.

  • http://twitter.com/cindydesigns Cindy Moniz

    Harry Connick Jr.  Please, Nigel.. Hire him. Please, please, please, please, please. 

  • http://twitter.com/Quu3 Q3

    Also Dean Piper in the Times Mirror reports in today’s paper that Adam is in the early stages of negotiation with Idol about being a judge. No source for info given but it is in the print edition. Link to scan: http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx348/Quu3/Adamtopia/AyZ0w_mCYAA4nto.jpg

  • Guest

    I flove kelly, ever since day one. But i dont want her as a judge. She is way too nice. Definitely not a bad thing, but idol needs some tough judges this year. 

  • Anonymous

    Reminder:

    This post IS NOT ABOUT ADAM. I left out the earlier tweets from Nigel for a reason. Please don’t repeat them here for discussion.

    The topic of this post is NOT about fans spamming Nigel. It’s meant to begin a discussion about the discussion with fans that happened afterward.

    ETA: Adam can be part of the discussion as a potential judge, of course.

  • http://twitter.com/Quu3 Q3

    MDuke887 — I agree. The judges on Idol need to be tough — also knowledgeable, in touch with the current market and supportive. Ben Folds was really great as a vocal judge and great on the Sing Off, but I wonder if he really knows pop music.

    Also, assuming that Randy is moving into a new role, and IMO that would be a good move, I would like to see them pick someone with R&B/Urban music knowledge. With Mariah as the female diva, I hope they pick someone in the rock-country space (Bon Jovi might be great) and someone with an contemporary R&B/Urban background. That later will be the most challenging.

    But whatever else the judges need to be entertaining, honest and a bit unpredictable. The reason the AGT panel works better now is because all three judges are quick witted, unpredictable and funny, but also honest. Many of the people being mentioned do not fit that bill.

    For the same reason, I think the X-Factor judging panel may not work very well. I will reserve judgment until I see the show but I am not optimistic.

  • http://twitter.com/Platonic_Techs Platonic Tech

    Kelly, Harry and Ben share many of the same characteristics that I think have been sorely missing from Idol judges over the last two years:  Intelligence, humor and musical taste.  They would make it entertaining without making me cringe.  Why do I think it would never happen, then?

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    I can’t understand the mindset of some of these people who get considered for these panels or get on them and declare that they can’t criticize burgeoning artists because they are artists themselves. Huh? They should be more than capable of giving advice in a professional manner. Hopefully, with some wit. Ben, Sara, and Shawn did it every week and they’re artists and the public still loves them.

  • http://twitter.com/Lillyfield2 Cherry Lillyfield

    For the 3rd judge, they need someone like Jon Bon Jovi, what about Ringo Starr?

  • Anonymous

    I like Harry Connick Jr but only in small doses.  He started out great as a mentor then it just became one big stand-up act.  If they want to make it less about the judges, I think he would be the worst possible choice.  

  • http://twitter.com/Quu3 Q3

    Ringo Starr is 72 years old. They will not and anyone that old to the judging panel.

    The competition (Voice and X-Factor) both have judges with recent Top 40 hits. I think they will try to get someone with current hits. The problem is there are not that many candidates who are not already occupied or have stated they are not interested.

  • Axxxel

    IMO: yeah for John Bon Jovi… Then again, I am not really one of the young crowd that American Idol wants to attract.

  • Axxxel

    yeah, and if Clay Aiken becomes judge, it will be the Clay Aiken circus..
    And if Harry Connick becomes judge, it will be the Harry Connick circus.

  • Axxxel

    When I saw Adam Lambert perform on the Australian X -factor in 2010, I noticed that the very first winner of the Australian Idol, is one of the judges of X-factor !! Kelly Clarkson has been on The Voice and Duets… Just let her come home to American Idol…

  • tomr

    Please not Ben Folds…he is just too strange!  How about two women with Randy. 

  • Anonymous

    People have been clamoring for Harry Connick Jr ever since he mentored. I think it would be kind of funny after his name being constantly brought up if he was a terrible judge and we all hated him by this time next year haha.

  • DavieP

    @Axexel, thats Guy Sebastian..hes got some good hits..

    Hate that responses on this blog appear outta context; therefore often making no sense.

    Still would luv CHER as a judge..you get diva & honesty with craycray all in one..plus major actress singer with hits for five orso decades

  • DavieP

    That may very well happen..and prob should

  • http://twitter.com/Quu3 Q3

     I am not a fan of either Harry Connick Jr or Ben Folds as judges.

    I hope that they find two more new judges who know current pop/Top 40 music — one of them someone who understands the music business, a major producer would be great.

    And I sure hope the rumors that Randy will have a new role are true. He has become repetitive and boring.

  • http://twitter.com/Quu3 Q3

    I can’t imagine putting Mariah and Cher on the same panel — one diva too many.

    Anyway, Cher is 66. I think they will keep the judges under 60 — my bet is they try to keep it young. Although, AGT went with Howard Stern 58, Sharon 59, and Howie Mandel 56 and they are getting decent ratings 18-49 — so not really a matter of age.

    ETA: I would love to see them have Kelly and or Carrie come back to the show as mentors. I think it would be good for the show and for the contestants and for the ratings.

  • SEP-ESH

    How about having four judges?  Adam, Mariah, Jack Black, and Kanye!

  • Anonymous

    How about having four judges?  Adam, Mariah, Jack Black, and Kanye!

    OMFG, yes! Jack Black! I would be willing to pay good money to see that! Dude is awesome.

    I would also add Zach Galifianakis (dude is cray cray plus the pure awesomeness of Ryan having to pronounce his surname every week!)

    And while we’re at it why not throw in Justin Bieber and Sarah Palin and we’ve covered all bases. :D

  • Anonymous

    Is Zach Galifianakis a singer?? At least Jack Black is, so he knows something about it.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t do twitter but if Jon Bon Jovi won’t take this gig, what about Richie or Tito?  They certainly know what it takes to maintain a career in rock just as well as Jon, and they’ve been articulate when interviewed.  Either of them might jump at the chance to become known for themselves rather than the band.   Bon Jovi is still pumping out the hits, Richie is a singer in his own right, and both Tito and Richie know what a frontman needs to woo the music-buying public.  

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    American Idol is a dying franchise, but Fox has 2 more years left on a contract, so they should keep show afloat for 2 more years. Fox needs to hedge their bets with judges and hire a legit superstar like Mariah, who will be credited with the success, if ratings go up.  They also need a fall guy, who will be blamed and fired in case the ratings go down.  Third person is irrelevant and could be anybody, really. This way the executives will be covered and show will continue for 2 more years before Fox decides to pull he plug.

  • luvadamlambert

    who the hell is ben folds??? and all i know about nigel is that he is a friggin douchebag

  • shamrock

    Everything Nigel re-tweeted (and commented) actually makes sense. :o Too much sense probably to have any truth in it. LOL.

  • Anonymous

    i definitely would not want Carrie or Kelly.  Especially Carrie – booooring.  Does she even have a sense of humour?  Kelly is OK but since she obviously did nothing for the ratings of Duets, there is no way that Idol would want to take their cast offs.  And where did this James Durbin talk originate?  Seriously?  Do you seriously think they would put him on live tv?  He can’t even censor himself on twitter.  Could you imagine the trainwreck on live tv?  lol.  Plus, no one outside Idol even knows who he is.  They need judges who can bring in non-Idol watchers.  Judges who are known outside the bubble. 

    Chances are likely on the lower side of slim to none but, objectively, Adam has the attributes to make a fantastic judge.  He’s funny, quick-witted, has an entire arsenal of stupid voices, easy on the orbs, deemed as unpredictable (though not actually), a fashionista…..  And the only genre he hasn’t made his bitch is country (which he could likely do if he had an inkling of interest). He is JLo (the glitz and looks and compassion), Simon (honesty, succinctness, articulate), Steven (hippy dippy, feel-good lovefest), HC Jr (humour and actual singing ability) and Kelly/Carrie (Idol experience) all rolled up in to one, affordable (some would say low-cost) package.  Plus, the mere mention of his name sets off a range of emotions in people across the interwebs.  The only, and I say ONLY, slight against his credentials is that this 2nd album hasn’t got its legs (yet?).  Yet, in relation to helping the Idol contestents, this may be a positive.  Adam knows exactly what these contestants will be up against in the real world.  How the hell can any of these other “more successful” judges relate when their major successes are far, far behind them?  What does Steven or Mariah know about starting up a career in the current environment?  Nothing!  Their advice about what works and what doesn’t work is worth dick squat.  Snark all you want and come back with “Well,  chuckle chuckle, Adam certain knows what DOESN’T work” but you can’t deny that at least this knowledge is timely and relevant.  In my mind, the many, many, many positives outweigh any negatives.  Where do I vote?

  • Anonymous

    Agree that Cher would be the best judge they could snatch.  She’s just so brutally honest and non-pretentous and has years of experience as a singer and she’s always relevant.  Another perfect judge would be Ringo Starr, but he flies too high above the radar for a menial job like this, unfortunately. How about Monkee Micky Dolenz :) ?

    The worst judge from Idol they could get – the absolute worst - is Carrie Underwood.  She’s as dull as dishsoap as far as being an entertaining persona on Idol.  Almost anyone else would be 10x better. Selling a bunch of country records does not make for a good judge who would sell the show to non watchers.

  • Anonymous

    Yes!!! And the Black/Lambert rock-off could happen live on a results show. lol.  Now THAT would be a ratings grabber

  • everything

    Every contestant who goes in front of the judges’ panel would want the success of Carrie Underwood, whether their genre is Country music or not.

    The show is not about the judges’, so it doesn’t matter how entertaining they are or are not.

  • Anonymous

    As I stated, you need much, much more than laurels to be a good, effective, interesting and riveting judge.  IMO, she has none of the other requisite criteria.  Just because she is successful doesn’t mean she actually knows how to articulate what made her successful.  Hell.  Who’s to say she even knows what made her successful?  Sorry.  I just find her dull, dull, dull and I feel that country music is the most secular of all genres.  The country music industry seems to be in their own, little world.  Sure there is some pop crossover (just to gain listeners) but they are basically country to the bone.  I feel country artists, in general, are the least equipped to objectively judge other genres. 

  • http://twitter.com/therocprince Cory ??

    I still say they might as well put Jimmy Iovine on the panel. Ben Folds is not relevant enough right now, and would not attract new viewers (which they need to do). Mary J. Blige would also be a good judge, I enjoyed her as a mentor.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    And where did this James Durbin talk originate?  Seriously?  Do you seriously think they would put him on live tv?  He can’t even censor himself on twitter.  Could you imagine the trainwreck on live tv?  lol.  Plus, no one outside Idol even knows who he is.

    You’re the first poster to mention him in this thread, LOL.

    Well they’ve put him on live tv before and he didn’t destroy the show then, LOL. Funny with all the complaints about the judges being scripted James is probably the one alum everyone can count on to always say what he really thinks because he can’t be censored on live tv. Trainwrecks can be very entertaining hence so much excitement on this blog about the prospect of Kanye being a judge, LOL.

    And there are lots of people outside the Idol bubble who know who he is, but not in the audience that Idol wants to attract.

    Doesn’t matter anyway, he would never agree to do it if they asked him, he’s too busy among other reasons and his fans wouldn’t want him to do it either.

  • Anonymous

    What about his mommy?  Would his mommy let him do it?

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    Larc, Nigel may not be involved in major decision making, but he is the Idol “mouthpiece”.  Who else talks to us about Idol goings on?  You bet he passes the messages from Twitter fans to the higher-ups.  I just wish they would at least announce one of the replacement judges. 

    I sincerely think Randy needs to change if he wants to stay on the panel.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    Full post not seen.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ACMLXLYSSX73RNYQOUZWSO2I4U Enough already!

    Nigel darling, you need to lighten up.   WTH is Ben Folds?   This is like all the mags reporting every starlet who gets pregnant and nobody knows who they are.  lol 

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    I’ll be back later…

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    The judges on Idol need to be tough — also knowledgeable, in touch with the current market and supportive. Ben Folds was really great as a vocal judge and great on the Sing Off, but I wonder if he really knows pop music.

    After watching The Sing-Off for several seasons, I KNOW</b? Ben Folds knows Pop music.  There was always diversity in the group presentations!  It seems a good majority of the songs were in that field.  Ben was able to provide positive suggestions but was honest with the negative.  His group had several hits.

    I think Idol wants a female judge to generate conversations.  "Did you see what she wore last night?"  I would say they want to stay in the range of 30-45 years.  Maybe have an older male judge and a younger one?  Just guessing of course!

  • shamrock

    I love James to death, but I wouldn’t want to see him on a judges seat – not for the next 10-20 years anyway. LOL. (He should continue doing what he is doing now, earning his dues and trying to make step by step a dent/gaining acceptance in the rock world).

    And I know some like to see James as the big meano, but from what I’ve seen how James is around kids and teens (RL and twitter), I think, he might even be too nice to some candidates, not wanting to be the one to crush the dreams of a hopeful teenager (he has a very strong protective streak in him).

    Mentoring or co-mentoring (for 1 episode) would be a different story, but I doubt that’s gonna happen, anyway.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VCEZD3N6FHT6AVC6TG7VKTBONQ Raftrap

    Any Cheryl Cole mention always brings a smile to my face, it would be great if it happened.

  • Anonymous

    Kariann, Nigel also said that anything happened on twitter’s not going to affect or change the decisions of the team. LOL

  • http://twitter.com/wanermania k w

    Mary J has signed on to the voice to help Adam Levine montor this year.

  • http://twitter.com/wanermania k w

    They do not need stars. They need some behind the scenes music personalities. I am so sick of the “Stars” just on there to self promote. They don’t want to judge, because they do not want to offend any potential fans. I would love to see Adam every week, but not if he is going to be like Steven and Jennifer. I wish they would get two judges like Linda Perry, Jimmy Ivine and one “Star”.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder how they select the judges.  Do they interview them?  Is there a mock critique of someone’s singing?  Perhaps they do a market survey.  I hope they do something besides just looking at someones resume and talking to their management.  As we have learned the last couple of years, a good resume and good management does not a good judge make.

  • sagi

    I really hope Adam does get on board. I think he would be awesome and endearing to all who give him a chance. To those who would be so off put by the fact that they would refuse to watch, I guess there would be less moaning on the boards. But something tells me that those who are so offended that they “wouldn’t” watch, would. How could anyone rage on him if they didn’t watch?

  • Anonymous

    How about a hologram of Elvis sitting in Steven’s chair.  Seems like a natural succession.  But make it the young, sexy Elvis.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

     And where did this James Durbin talk originate?  Seriously?  Do you seriously think they would put him on live tv?  He can’t even censor himself on twitter.  Could you imagine the trainwreck on live tv?  lol

    Nigel’s tweets are 10 times more agressive than Durbin’s tweets and he still a judge on SYTUCD. James appeared on live TV talking several times and it wasn’t a trainwreck. But nobody is considering him, IDK where you read it, he’s just the 4th place. Just winners should teach how to win.

  • Anonymous

     Raising her hand saying “I seriously would not watch.”

  • Anonymous

    I vote for Harry Connick!!  He was the most Professional and thorough Mentor ever.  He knows Music, he is good looking, he is a teacher, he adds variety….did I say Professional. 

    Noooooooooooo to Reality Star types.  Noo to Adam.  Nooo to Mariah. Don’t know Ben Fold.  Bon Jovi would be good but already said no.  Nooooo to Aretha – talented but no Personality, Snooty.   No to Carrie.  Kelly already said no.
    Whoopi would be good!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    LOL. I always wondered why all the Elvis’s impersonators are like his Las Vegas time. It never made sense to me.

  • Anonymous

    I agree… Whoopi is the solution to the problem, but….
    She already has a job.

  • Christopher Auyeung

    As much as I adored Ben on the Sing-Off panel (and Shawn and Sara), he’s way too quirky (and musically articulate) for Idol. I don’t think he’s a good fit for the general Idol audience.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002166668687 Ali Goria

    Maybe you missed the part where it’s not his decision. Nor was it more than a short campaign that happened yesterday and stopped just as fast. 

  • milwlovesadam

    Okay.

    Now, I’ve got a panel for all of you:

    Adam Lambert

    The Hologram of Freddie Mercury from the latest Queenbert shows

    Brian May. Because HE knows a great singer when he hears one.

    Lulz.

    But, seriously, Adam would be a terrific judge, for so many reasons already posted. IMHO. And if he still had time to tour and do his own thang, I guess I’m coming around to liking the idea.

  • Anonymous

    It is so sad how some of Adams fans act, there are some nuts that follow him to every show and just plain stalk him, they need to really get a life and pay attention to their own family and friends. They give fans a bad name. I just hope its not true about Mariah, her husband would be the better choice. I just hope they choose judges who are more relevant and fun, I am sad to see Stephen go :(

  • Larc

    Whether it’s Folds or somebody else, a musically articulate judge would be something new for Idol.  It would be their first one.  Some haven’t even been very articulate non-musically.  ;)

  • Anonymous

    What are Ben Folds sales like? He’s definitely not a superstar and apparently most people here think you need to sell a ton to be a judge, does Ben Folds fit that criteria? I wouldn’t want him to be an idol judge, the Sing Off may be popular on idol blogs, but it certainly didn’t set tv ratings on fire.

    Has Nigel even signed a new contract with Fox yet for Idol?

  • Anonymous

    ”Doesn’t matter anyway, he would never agree to do it if they asked him”

    yes, IF they asked him, but no doubt in my mind they wouldn’t. So, doesn’t really matter, yeah.

    But one thing though, what makes you so sure that he wouldn’t be dying to do it?*just curious*

    ”he’s too busy among other reasons”

    just like many Idols too who actually fly in and out of the country in just a matter of hours, then doing concerts 3 nights in a row, filming the latest on screen gig, then fly out to Asia, Australia, NZ. And not to mention the tour early next year. whew, that’s not busy at all:)

    ”his fans wouldn’t want him to do it either.”

    Really?

  • Anonymous

    That could be changed, if she found this attractive enough of an offer.  Not sure she would like going around to find the Idols but would be good for and on the show!!

    Ellen did it when she had a Daily Talk Show.  Know it ultimately didn’t work out but not because she already had a job!!

  • Anonymous

    Maybe Whoopi is good for the talk show, though I’m not crazy about it, but don’t think she’s good for singing competition.

  • lilly924

    The same thing can be said of anyone who spends a lot of time on Idol forums (that they need to get a life), no matter who they’re a fan of. Every celebrity has fans who do this sort of thing. Nigel just made a big deal out of nothing. One person was tweeting him over and over. All he had to do was block her. When I saw his tweet, I had no clue what was going on and saw that he was just drawing more attention to it. So I unfollowed him cause he was acting just as childish as the person he was complaining about. It’s too bad if he is staying with the show cause their season finale in May was a disaster. With the exception of Rihanna, the celebrity performers were only interesting to the age demographic who frequent Branson, MO. 

  • justmefornow

    Yes really.

  • Anonymous

    why is this even being discussed?  It has as much relevance (and likelihood) as discussing whether or not my next-door neighbour would accept the judging job.  I thought we were discussing viable, or at least rumoured, possibilities

  • Anonymous

    “The same thing can be said of anyone who spends a lot of time on Idol forums (that they need to get a life), no matter who they’re a fan of.”

    So true.. LOL

  • justmefornow

    I was just answering a question. lol
    For the record, as I’ve said before, NO IDOL CONTESTANT should be a judge,
    Especially NON WINNERS!
    (and yes that includes James)

    However, can your next-door neighbor sing?

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    If Idol wants younger audience, they should bring young judges: a Jonas brother, Miranda Cosgrove or Jeanette McCurdy from iCarly, BTR guys, Miley. Although, I doubt that any of them would want to be associated with Idol.

  • sagi

     Yeah, but that is easy to say right now, at this moment, because he wasn’t asked. If there were people saying He was being considered, and he seemed excited, I am sure his fans would be excited, too. JMHO

  • Anonymous

     

    a Jonas brother, Miranda Cosgrove or Jeanette McCurdy from iCarly, BTR
    guys, Miley. Although, I doubt that any of them would want to be
    associated with Idol.

    I’m pretty sure every single one of those people would want to be a part of the show.

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    Why are you so sure? You have inside info from their management? So far I haven’t seen any report of any young star lobbying for the sit on Idol panel. Unless you count Aretha young. LOL

  • Anonymous

     

    Why are you so sure? You have inside info from their management?

    Common Sense.

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    My common sense tells me that young stars on the rise don’t want to be tied up to a sinking show.

  • Anonymous

     My common sense tells me young stars would love to be payed millions of dollars for a few hours of work a week for two months on the #1 watched show on television while getting great promo.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, but the show IS about the judges.  It’s a lot about the judges. That’s why they are seeking out very high profile enteratainers such as Mariah Carey and paying them 17 million, or JLo… or Steven Tyler…. or……

    Most of their job is to be good television (which Carrie U would be terrible at). To keep people tuning in. People aren’t tuning in to watch the amateurs, are they? At least not at the start of the season.

  • Anonymous

    This!!!
    ” How about a hologram of Elvis sitting in Steven’s chair.  Seems like a natural succession.  But make it the young, sexy Elvis.”

    Where do I vote? LOL!

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    My common sense tells me that young stars on the rise don’t want to be tied up to a sinking show.

    It’s a good thing you aren’t in the business of managing young stars. ;)

  • http://twitter.com/YaminaC YaminaC

    Nearly fell out of my beach chair when I heard a short discussion about Idol judges on NYC’s classic rock station today - the DJ put forth Phil Collins as his choice for new judge.  Was nice to hear a different name as well as acknowledgement of the show an a radio channel which prides itself on catering to the rock connoisseur.

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    nvm

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S3ZGXZCUE2YYOS7QV6QSTKM4SA buffynut2001

    So Nigel tweets all the time about Idol, SYTYCD and other business but he considers that his “personal” twitter account? He is so full of BS it is ridiculous!

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    Jazz, the thing with Nigel is he often has information but won’t share it until he’s ready.  Nigel is into game playing, but outside American Idol, I sorta like him.  Love SYTYCD and his projects involving music.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    There are currently 300 Elvis Tribute artists in the U.S..  They will usually cover the entire Elvis time line.

    After watching Chris Isacc on the PBS special on Buddy Holly last night – I think he would be perfect!  Lo and behold, who is that sitting with Buddy Holly’s wife?  Why, it’s Nigel!  LOL.

  • http://twitter.com/Jablea Jablea

    For some they can see how they judge on other shows.  I rather liked the years they had guest judges in the audition rounds but they haven’t done that in a long time.  I didn’t see Kelly’s show but I went looking for Adam’s time on Project Runway to look at it again ( I watched it twice when it was on but I have a bad memory).  I worry that he’d be too soft on Idol but he wasn’t on PR and he either got a great editing job or he really is quite good.  (as a fan of course I think the later)

    So I’d like to see vids of the others who are in contention for the judging panel in actual judging situations.

  • http://twitter.com/whistleblower14 whistleblower

    Isn’t it a bit of both curly_yenta? 

    An idol judge isn’t, or shouldn’t be, just about ‘high profiles’ though. Do even the most passionate anti-adam folk seriously believe he wouldn’t be a better judge than J-Lo, Tyler or Ellen – all higher profile all a complete waste of space in a judging chair.

    Even with his slightly lower profile, Adam creates a lot of buzz – love him or hate him, HE is the potential judge we can’t stop talking about.  On top of that he is intelligent, charismatic, and honest/constructive in his criticisms as we’ve seen time and time again.  People are wanking in the other thread that he ‘wasn’t good’ on PR because he judged the outfits in front of him rather than the designers overall popularity. I’m sorry but that is exactly what I want from an idol judge.  I don’t want to hear how Durbin is the greatest thing that ever happened after he has screeched off key for 1.5 minutes minutes or to hear that Allison Iraheta has no personality because she isn’t a ptb favorite.  I want honest and constructive critiques.

    He’d be absolutely perfect – which is also why it will probably never happen lol  I agree with you, Carrie would be a horrible choice – which is why that probably will

  • Anonymous

    upnatem, this is a really great, well thought out post, which I totally agree with..

  • Anonymous

    OK, agree again. I liked Harry Connick Jnr as a mentor at the start too, but then he seemed to make it too much about himself and not enough about the contestants, with all the endless jokes.

  • Anonymous

    But if we did do that, it would only be on a blog like this, where many, many of the comments each week while Idol is running is about the judges and not the contestants, so what difference would it be?

  • http://twitter.com/whistleblower14 whistleblower

    thanks hkfan, i wasn’t going to bother hitting earlier pages, expected it to be more of the same old same old but damn upnatem those are some great comments!

  • Anonymous

    I wish if Idol is having a proper overhaul this year that they could get rid of Nigel,have never liked him. Him and Mary whatshername are the 2 main reasons why I don’t watch SYTYCD….can’t stand his pompous attitude. Just watch the videos on here without the judges.
    I keep seeing Ben Folds name bandied about, is he a singer???
    and agree with Cheryl Cole being beautiful, and has been a pretty seccessful judge before. Don’t know why her credentials are any better than Adams though, isn’t she from a reality show too??
    I would rather see Cher as a judge than Mariah., think she would be fun and a straight talker.

  • http://twitter.com/whistleblower14 whistleblower

    “he started out great as a mentor then it just became one big stand-up act.”

    YES!  Thats was exactly my problem with Harry Connick Jr.  he had some good critiques but i got really bored with him after about 15 minutes – it felt more like the Harry Connick Jr variety hour than American Idol and he was trying way too hard to be ‘entertaining’.

    He may be the only mentor that actually ended up annoying me.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    Thank you! This is exactly my stance as well. Personally I find it ironic that Adam would “jump at the chance” to be a judge when he’s complained about having an Idol stigma. You would think that someone who feels that they are stigmatized by Idol would want to distance themselves from the show.

  • http://twitter.com/TarheelShari Sharon S.

    There’s a difference between “complaining” and “making a statement.”  Adam has stated that there’s a stigma attached to becoming famous via a show like AI – something he knew before he ever set foot on the Idol stage – and he’s absolutely right.  There is.  As an Adam fan, I saw it most recently in the reviews of the Queen performances.  There were several comments about him being “better than his reality show roots,” or expressing skepticism that an ex-AI contestant would be up to the challenge of singing with Queen.  He was being dismissed before singing a single note.  Fortunately Brian May and Roger Taylor – and, after seeing his performances, the reviewers themselves – recognized that he was so talented that he belonged on that stage. 

    However, at the same time he has also said, time and time again, that a show like AI offers a tremendous platform, and that he wouldn’t be doing the things he’s doing now without having appeared on AI.  He often expresses his gratitude for what Idol did for him.  And, yes, he probably feels that the potential advantages he would receive if he went back as a judge would once again outweigh the downside of associating himself with AI.  Nobody sitting his or her butt behind that judging panel will be doing it for entirely (or even mainly) selfless reasons.  Nobody.  But I also believe Adam is genuine when he says he’d love the opportunity to help and guide the contestants.  He’s done that sort of thing since his days doing children’s theatre.  I actually think he’d have been even better suited to judging X Factor, given how they work with their team of contestants.

    As for his stint judging on PR (hi, Jablea), after viewing some bonus footage on the PR website, I actually thought some of his best moments were left on the proverbial cutting room floor.  His critique of Anya was particularly bastardized – he was shown complimenting the clothes she was actually wearing herself, and wishing she’d brought more of that same aesthetic to her design.  Several designers went on record that he was tough, yet constructive and kind, and that he was their favorite guest judge of the season.  If he could bring that kind of insight to the world of fashion, in which he is interested but is not his field, I’d love to see what he could bring to AI.

    As for Harry Connick, Jr., I agree that by the end of his two days on AI, I was ready to see the last of him. Without a doubt he has the musical chops to be a judge, but during his mentor stint I didn’t find him nearly as funny or interesting as he obviously found himself. By the time he was yammering on with that endless story about Frank Sinatra during results night, I just wanted him to STFU.

  • Karen C

    One of the problems with Harry Connick Jr is when he mentored brought the contestants away from current music, and yes it was a standards week, but still, there’s a way of even doing standards that would make them more current. If the goal is to have judges that will help the contestants become pop stars I’m not sure if he would really help.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002166668687 Ali Goria

    He never complained about an Idol stigma. When asked…he said before trying out he was aware that talent shows weren’t considered cool but he went on to get a record deal. In an interview in London last month. He has always said he owes everything to Idol. When else did he “complain”?

    He also said “‘American Idol was a popularity contest so I had to lay on the charm. Now I’m lifting the veil to show the parts that aren’t so easy to digest.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2153032/Queens-new-singer-hes-ready-step-Mercurys-shoes.html

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    “But one thing though, what makes you so sure that he wouldn’t be dying to do it?*just curious*”

    New album to record and promote on the road? Maybe if he didn’t have anything music related lined up for the foreseeable future he’ll consider it, but I think if his music career ultimately bombs he’d rather go into wrestling.

    “just like many Idols too who actually fly in and out of the country in just a matter of hours, then doing concerts 3 nights in a row, filming the latest on screen gig, then fly out to Asia, Australia, NZ. And not to mention the tour early next year. whew, that’s not busy at all:)”

    So then what’s Adam’s schedule for fall 2012 through to spring 2013, the time span when Idol will require his services? How is he going to be free to judge on the show if he’s zipping around the country/world on a national/international tour? He can’t be a full time working musician if he’s a judge, Adam must know that. Jennifer and Steven are only able to tour now that they’re off the show, which makes me wonder if Adam’s tour for early next year is really happening since he said he’ll take the job if it’s offered to him. How can he take the job if he knows he won’t be available?

    “Really?”

    Yes really because it will put his music career on hold. James’ target audience is totally removed from the show, most rock music fans don’t watch Idol so he won’t benefit from the exposure because he won’t be exposed to the right audience for his music. As a new artist he should be out touring to expand his fanbase and establish himself in his chosen market, that goes for every other alum in his situation. Steven Tyler could afford to take the gig because he has millions of fans who’ll continue to idolize him no matter what he does. James hasn’t broken into his chosen market yet, if he took the gig now it would probably destroy his chances of ever doing so.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    I think it was his interview with Rolling Stone where I read that. He said he didn’t feel like one of the “cool kids” in the music biz and that it was the “Idol stigma” or something like that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002166668687 Ali Goria

    Oh yeah  you’re right!…Then he said pop music is like high school. 

    “It’s the Idol stigma. On red carpets at awards shows, other musicians are either really open to embracing me and being friendly and being associated with me, or they just don’t want to,” he said. “A lot of times it’s in my own head, but it feels like a political move to be friends with someone like me.” 

    “I still feel like I’m not welcome,” he said. “I went to the Grammys this year and felt really weird, like an outsider. Pop music feels like high school again – like, there’s the really cool kids, and I’m not one of those.” 

    Well that’s a good way to explain Trespassing and not such a great way to get a job on Idol, maybe LOL.
    http://mix1065fm.cbslocal.com/2012/05/14/adam-lambert-on-idol-stigma-feeling-like-an-outsider/ 

  • Anonymous

    Totally disagree.  Whoopie is a real left winger.  Would not work on Idol.

  • justmefornow

    I never thought about the wrestling, but I think you are probably right about going into that if the music career tanks.

    Look, I don’t really know him, but I have met him and talked to him, and he is one of the most down to earth, unassuming, and humble people I’ve ever met, nothing like the negative image so many gave him.
    It seems to me he’s getting the chance now to do what he really loves and only wants to be successful enough to support himself and his family. I got the feeling it was all about the music with him, not necessarily the fame. Any other fame or money coming from it is just icing on the cake.
    All JMO of course, just a vibe I got.

  • Anonymous

    ”Look, I don’t really know him, but I have met him and talked to him, and
    he is one of the most down to earth, unassuming, and humble people I’ve
    ever met, nothing like the negative image so many gave him.”

    um, many people who actually met Adam can testify he is those too. But as Adam said before ”it comes with the territory. He chose this career, so if something negative thrown at him so be it.”(I’m paraphrasing)

  • Anonymous

    LOL I can’t believe why we’re even discussing James being a judge or why you even brought about him in the first place. Anyway,

    If James is TOO BUSY TO JUDGE or his fans don’t want him to, so it’s good thing TPTB doesn’t consider him being one.

    and I’m not gonna start about the famous ”Credibility” issues around here.

  • Anonymous

    Reminder:

    Moving the fan war from the thread I closed last night to this thread is not going to work. I’ll close this one too.

    Also, If I get the sense a poster is constantly baiting and engaging in the same arguments over and over again…that poster will be banned. jsyk.

  • Anonymous

    Also…If you sign up again after I ban you. I usually figure it out.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    “LOL I can’t believe why we’re even discussing James being a judge or why you even brought about him in the first place. Anyway,”

    Context, context, context. 

    Someone on the other thread claimed that any alum would take the job if offered, I gave James as an example of one who would not take it and listed the reasons why.

    And I’m not the one who brought the subject up on this thread.

    Also I simply answered your questions, you said you were curious.

    ETA: There are other alums besides Kelly and Carrie who would also not take the job as they are also too busy with their own stuff to be judges, such as Archie & Kathrine McPhee.

  • Anonymous

    It IS his personal account because he runs it and tweets stuff himself. Just like Kelly’s or Adam’s or Kris’ or James’ or any other Idol’s twitter is his or her personal account, even though they often use it to promote their music, appearances, etc.

  • Anonymous

    nvm

  • Anonymous

    yes, Ben Folds is a singer and songwriter. He was the frontman for an alt rock group called the Ben Folds Five, and when the group broke up, he became a solo artist. I heard that the Ben Folds Five may be reunting to put out a new album and tour, but not sure about that.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Folds 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    Yip that’s the interview I was referring to, thanks.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    I like Ben Folds as a cool judge.  I also like Chris Isacc – good singer/songwriter; nice looking; good personality; and he knows music!  Again, it will be easier to find the male judge than female, although it looks like it will be Mariah.

  • Anonymous

    That makes me so sad. Kelly has made similar comments about the exclusionary nature of the pop music world in the past.

  • Anonymous

    But is there really any pretense left that they are trying to create a relevant pop star? Harry Connick Jr. would be entertaining and provide pithy sound bites – he has acted in major movies, was a regular on Will and Grace, has worked with many music industry legends, and is a musical genuis (piano and drums and ?), above and beyond his singing. He is the full package. Also, I’ve seen him in concert and he gives great banter.

  • Anonymous

    Ben Folds and Chris Issack would be great also. Ben is a proven quantity as a judge and Chris is another actor/singer with great comic sensibility and charisma. That acting ability really helps IMO – again, AI is about good TV even more than it is about good music.

    As an aside, has anyone ever sang Wicked Game on AI? I don’t think so, which suprises me. Such a haunting, evocative song – right up there with Mad World. A potential “moment” song.

  • Anonymous

    The thing about Ben, Chris and Harry is that they are all cool cats. They may not have anything on the radio right now, but they all have cred, and Ben is even a bonafide hipster, and Chris an Elvisphile, which is hot right now.

    Call me crazy, but how cool would it be to have a guy like Henry Rollins as a judge? He is so interesting and knowledgeable about almost all music genres (unfortunately Pop isn’t one of them) and again, he has that acting background. Of course Hell would have to freeze over…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002166668687 Ali Goria

    Oh he was an awesome judge on RPDR he pulled NO punches!

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, HR is super smart and outspoken. And who knows, maybe he’s a closet AI fan? Heh. He’d certainly bring an edge that is sorely lacking.

    My number one favorite candidate for a judge would be have to be Elvis Costello, but I know for a fact that he is NOT an Idol fan. :(

    They really need to think outside the box I think. What about one of the Lillith Fair, feminist type Divas from the 90′s? Sarah McLachlan or Alanis Morisette, etc.

    This sounds weird, but if Adam is going to be one of the judges, I would really like the other two judges to be women. I just think he has better chemistry with women. One airhead-diva like Mariah and one smart-snarky diva like Alanis. Perfect.

  • Karen C

    I believe Siobahn Magnus sang Wicked Game her season.  Adam Lambert was supposed to sing it if One by U2 didn’t clear for the Judges choice, they showed him at his homecoming, and he read both messages.