More Stalkerazi: The Idols Leave Tour Rehearsal

They’re so adorable, even Danny seems palatable…(money, money, money…oh, crap!)

LOL at “You’re a new guy”.

LOL Thanks for sharing. This is the first thing I’ve seen Danny in where I actually liked him (as opposed to feeling guilty about wishing he would drop dead). I’m thinking it was because he was relaxed and just being himself and honest rather than trying to project a specific image or promote a cause. Hint for the future Danny, relax and don’t worry about the cameras or the audience.

Wow! Stalkerazi NOT focusing on Adam! Whew! Guess he got a day off. Good for him.

and there you have it

Danny’s motivation/concern/thoughts

This is why so many of us turned against Danny. It didn’t seem to be about the art, but about becoming rich and famous.

Nah. I still don’t like Danny. [shrug]

For me, it’s not that anyone went on Idol for fame or a career, but it’s that Danny still seems too phony. Even here, when he’s honest that the best thing right now is the money, he immediately retracts it and says, “don’t air that.” Yes, he may have been kidding, but he may have been serious, in which case, own it Danny. It’s honest and nothing to shy away from — not to mention, obvious! This (and other encounters like it) still takes me back to his Q&A with Charlie Belcher where he was so trying to say the most diplomatic thing in an effort to ensure the most votes. All the others just said what they thought or felt.

And I get this vibe from him almost every time I hear him. I guess what it boils down to? He doesn’t get it.

The glasses line doesn’t help my view, either.

Honestly, I think that all of them are in it for the money and fame at least to an extent. In additon to making music. Many of them Lil, and Michael have said that they wanted to provide a better life for their families. Adam has said that he one of the reasons he tried out for Idol was for attention and exposure.

So all three of those people have either listed money or fame, as one of the reasons for wanting to be on the show Danny’s not the only person who’s partially in it for the money. And I believe that he wants to make music just like the rest of them. I see nothing wrong with what he said.

RE: Money, money, money

Now that Danny Gokey brought it up, I am a tad curious.

How much do the idols earn in concert anyway ? Do they get paid per show ? If so, how much ?

I’d be grateful for any knowledgeable person to share this factoid and I’m sure a lot of other people would be eager to know as well.

Well, I must admit that the thought of watching Danny and Lil first thing in the morning was too much for me. Maybe I’ll have the stomach for it later today.

MJ thanks for the description. Otherwise I am not sure I could have resisted.

Lil swears she wears more eyeliner than Adam Lambert

IMO it’s not how much eyeliner you wear, it’s how you wear it!

edit: don’t question the motives of your fellow posters or put words in their mouths. Adam isn’t even in the video

Lil is a sweet heart for answering that question about the eyeliner with such class. She and Adam are tight and she would not diss him at all. She’s a loyal friend. Love that about her!

The reason he asked not to air it is because they are not supposed to sing any songs on video/audio because AI/19 will have to pay royalties. And he was obviously joking when he was singing it- didn’t you notice all 4 of them were laughing. All aside- who cares- everyone in there positions I’m sure likes the money part. Do you think anyone of them would sign a contract for 10 bucks- obviously not. By the way, they get paid (i think) 10 cents a song download and for tour and each AI show- not sure how much but heard close to 1000 per show and rate varies for concert depending on order they were voted off.

Honestly, I think that all of them are in it for the money and fame at least to an extent.

I’m sure that’s true, and no-one’s going to say the money’s a bad thing. But Kris has certainly said a number of times that for him Idol was all about getting the opportunity to make a record and become a part of the music industry. And when he was asked what he would buy with the money he’d be making, it didn’t seem to be something he’d really thought about.

OTOH, I too often had a problem with Danny on the show, in terms of him seeming less genuine than some of the other contestants. I did get that sense that he was always trying to à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“winà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  people over by saying just the right thing (or not, by accident) rather than just being honest and open.

I don’t think that Danny normally says what he thinks that people want him to say. Or else, he wouldnt’ have as many haters as he does. I think that he is pretty honest, and I think that gets him in trouble with people on the Internet.

He doesn’t say the most PR approved things, saying who he thought would win Idol, some other stuff that people didn’t like himself. I think that Danny is definitely honest and is definitely being himself, like him, love him or hate him.

I’m not quite sure if he was serious or not, but I think that he retracted what he said, because he knows that he has some haters that will be happy at the thought of him saying something they don’t like and bash him for it.

He probably said what he did, maybe as a joke or not and then regretted and then immediately thought “Oh, heck, just another thing for some people to try and use against me.” If he thought that I don’t blame him, considering all of the hate that he gets online.

I also have to add this. Danny didn’t know his wife had an insurance policy until after she died. When he got it he used it to start Sophias heart. I know money isn’t his main focus. If it was he would have used it all on himself. Do you know how much volunteering he did in milwaukee- a ton.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s true, and no-oneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to say the moneyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a bad thing. But Kris has certainly said a number of times that for him Idol was about getting the opportunity to make a record and become a part of the music industry. And when he was asked what he would buy with the money heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be making, it didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t seem to be something heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d really thought about.

Danny said the same thing, that he wants to make music so that his fans can enjoy it. He’s said this several times in various post Idol interviews.

As far as what the Idols are going to do with the money, we know that Lil and Michael want to have better lives for their families. And that Danny will donate some of his money to his foundation. Do we know if any of the others plan to do the same thing? Does Adam plan on starting a charity organization? Any of his fans know? Does any of the other Idols plan on doing something like that?

I personally don’t care what the Idols do with the money they make, whether they give it to charity or buy closets full of clothes or whatever they want. So as long as it’s legal. And I’m not going to hold the desire to make money and voicing that desire against any of them.

Funniest bit is when the camera stalker, walking backwards, nearly runs into a tree. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re a new guy, arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t you,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  says Danny.

Dammit, don’t be funny Danny, I have a problem reconciling sense of humor with douchiness.

Personally, I think Danny was kidding about the money comment. I don’t really think he’s a bad guy, although I’m not a fan of his voice. He does need to think before he speaks, though, because a joke like that could definately work against him.

The new guy comment was a good one!

YAY!! FINALLY we have some video on the others!! I was getting a bit sick (no offense) to seeing so much of Adam and Kris!! Hope we get more video on the rest of the idols more often!

Aw, I can’t hate on Danny here. He was funny! And, yeah, I think he realized he isn’t supposed to be recorded singing, based on his reaction. I think he also recognizes by now that anything he says will be dissected and pilloried on the Internet.

I can’t fault any of them, especially the ones who come from nothing, for wanting to make some bucks from all of this. It’s not like they didn’t earn it.

It seemed to me that Danny was joking — or trying to, anyway. Money is nice, but since none of them know how their AI experience is going to work out when they first audition, it wouldn’t make much sense to go into the whole thing simply hoping to make a bunch of cash.

On a similar note, I just heard Kris do a radio interview (question — it’s 7 freakin’ A.M. here in L.A. — why do they make these guys do interviews that early? He sounded exhausted — let the kid get some sleep!) — and they asked him about the money. He said that they did get paid to be on AI, but didn’t go into details. I think, though that they got paid the standard rate for being on a reality show, which if I remember correctly is something like $750-$1000 per show. Not bad, but not enough to suddenly start buying fancy cars or houses or stuff.

Not very classy for a guy who wants his music to be a message for the people and who mentions his “foundation/charity” in every interview :foot_in_mouth_tb: he really should not speak in public.
Who would donate to his charity? :bigsurprise_ee:

I also have to add this. Danny didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know his wife had an insurance policy until after she died. When he got it he used it to start Sophias heart. I know money isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t his main focus. If it was he would have used it all on himself. Do you know how much volunteering he did in milwaukee- a ton

Yes. Danny has volunteered with underprivileged children for years, I believe during the time when he was working three jobs. His wife was a teacher and worked with children. I believe that he went to a pretty bad, underperforming high school. So I can understand why he is so driven to help kids out.

I know that he said in hometown Q&A, that he wants to give some kids the opportunity to be apart or more Art programs, especially children, that normally wouldn’t have the opporutinity to be apart of things like that.

YAY!! FINALLY we have some video on the others!! I was getting a bit sick (no offense) to seeing so much of Adam and Kris!! Hope we get more video on the rest of the idols more often!

ITA. I skipped a lot of the post Idol Stuff about Adam and Kris. I know that they were going to be a lot of stuff about them since they are the runner up and winner, but I just wasn’t interested in seeing all that stuff about them.

I didn’t feel like listening to them singing, “Mad World” and “Heartless” a hundred different times.

Or seeing all of the overblown speculation/media hype about Adam’s sexuality. And neither one of them are favorites of mine, so I wasn’t really interested in seeing a whole lot of stuff about them. Even though I will admit that Gene Simmons tells Adam to shut up thread, looks like it could be kind of interesting. So I might check that one out, LOL.

I am glad that this video was posted, so that we can see at least a little of the other Idols, some of them who are my favorites, and I who I prefer to Adam and Kris.

Whether they admit it or not, they’re all there for the money. It may not be the primary motivation for some of them, but money still is a big part. Even Kris said that hopefully they can live comfortably doing what he loves. Living comfortably requires some moolah.

I’m actually a little surprised TMZ posted this video — it wasn’t all that interesting. Oh, gee — let’s watch some kids from AI walk down the street! If Danny hadn’t blurted out the “moneymoneymoney” comment, would it have been posted on TMZ’s site?

lol that was cute!
and aww… Great to see Anoop again! He is so cool.

Relaxed and real Danny is FAR more appealing that “I wanna be a role model and start a revolution” Danny. That’s all I’m saying.

Danny slipped! “OH, Crap!” LOL. Ahahahahah

I have read a post or two on MJ’s over the seasons about how much they make per show on tour, but can’t find it. I do remember though that the higher they place on the show, the more they make per night (and it can go pretty high).

edit: please do not hijack the post. It’s not about Kris

edit: this post? not about adam

Doing it for the money — Well, the dream of nearly every artist is to be able to pursue their art *for* *a* *living*!! I’m sure all these kids know how grindingly hard — and, often, really bad for your art — it is to pursue it for a pittance or, as in many cases, for free.

They now get a wonderful shot at doing something music-related for cash, and also to share with other people. No more five-people-in-the-bar-and-they’re-all-either-drunk-or-talking-on-cellphones performances or “wouldja sing that at my wedding — for a piece of cake!” That’s what this is about. Very few people feel satisfied producing art that’s seen and heard by only a handful of people — especially if they’re very talented and know their art is cool — because art’s all about expression and communication.

Speak the truth, Danny.

Not gonna lie, Danny was funny!

I never really cared for Danny..I just think it’s funny how after he said “money, money, money” He said “don’t air that”… We all know they want to be there for the money and exposure but how Danny portrays himself about it is what turns me off…You don’t do a heart felt interview on how he wants to have this foundation for his wife..then turn around act like a fool and ask not to air that part….Makes me wonder what he’s really like… Just my opinion though.

In other news …..I would like to know what Matt is up to besides rehearsal He cracks me up!!

edit: again, quit trying to hijack the thread

I’d like to see an interview or two with Matt…he seems like a funny, really cool guy. I hope he gets signed!

Matt has been tweeting quite a bit, girlygirl and katie1, if you want to keep up with what he’s doing.. He posted some pics yesterday, of himself and Danny. http://www.twitter.com/mgiraudofficial.

I don’t have any problem with what Danny said. I go to work for the money, even though I love my job….

All of the idols are attention whores not just Adam. They all want the exposure and attention so their voice can be heard and to be the next AI however it’s Adam that has publicly stated. Matt also said he didn’t want to win he just wanted the exposure and to perform. It seems to me that you are bitter about Adam getting more exposure and attention than your favorite. Oh well.

I find it funny that the paparazzi even mention Adam to Anoop, Danny etc. when he’s nowhere around. Yep Adam has gotten more attention and exposure because he has “it” star persona and talent.

Adam has said that he one of the reasons he tried out for Idol was for attention and exposure.

Can you link to that quote? I remember the latter but not the attention bit. Thanks.

edit: Wow. Dial back the anger, please

I don’t think wanting to do AI for exposure in order to get you into the music industry makes you an attention whore (although I don’t think it’s a secret that Adam loves attention). I agree that all of them would love to be able to make a comfortable living doing what they love, which is making music. Nothing wrong with that. I’m sure all of us would love to be able to make a good living doing something we love.

I am not a fan of Danny AT ALL. And I had a huge problem with all sorts of things related to him this season, but I thought he was funny here.

Can you link to that quote? I remember the latter but not the attention bit. Thanks.

Here is the article from USA today on the top 3 this season where Adam mentions that one of the reasons he’s in Idol is for the attention and exposure.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2009-05-12-idol-peek_N.htm

edit: don’t complain. don’t put words in posters mouths

These idols get to wear nice clothes, go eat at nice restaurants, stay in nice hotels, etc. These things are stuff that we all like….big deal. I’m sure that they all are enjoying the monetary aspects, some probably more than others, depending on the lifestyle they come from.

I think that Danny just shouldn’t try to make jokes. There is just something off when he does thinks like on this video when he sings “Money, money, money”.

Add, I really wish Matt would be more talkative. I think he’s really talented but his shyness and insecurity really hurt him on AI. I still hope he gets a record deal because I think he could do some really interesting and good music.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think wanting to do AI for exposure in order to get you into the music industry makes you an attention whore (although I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a secret that Adam loves attention). I agree that all of them would love to be able to make a comfortable living doing what they love, which is making music. Nothing wrong with that. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure all of us would love to be able to make a good living doing something we love.

Is there any other reason that someone would go thru the whole AI thing? They are all there to get exposure, build a fan base, and hopefully become a successful recording artist.

IMO what is different about Adam, is that his strategy was to use AI as a platform to become a star, not to win. His stated goal from the beginning was to get to the final and to get a recording contract. If he had made the artist compromises needed to try to win, I doubt it would have worked anyway. He just would have been another AI contestant with a really great voice. Instead he did a series of notable performances that really positioned him well as an entertainer.

Danny unfiltered can occasionally result in “open mouth, insert foot” problems. But he’s not the only AI contestant that has had that problem before. It wouldn’t apply in this case, since a PR guy doesn’t follow them everywhere they go, such as out on the street at night, but I wonder — do all the AI finalists have PR reps that go with them to interviews, or is it just Kris and Adam who have the publicity people accompanying them? It would be ironic if it’s the latter, because neither one of those guys seems to really need a PR person hovering around them warning them about what not to say.

Lol! I thought that was funny, especially Danny! I’m glad that camera guy bumped into a tree because I do not like the people from TMZ!

his. Thank you for bringing this up.

it was off topic I edited it. Keep your remarks focused on the topic and OFF your fellow poster’s opinions. DON’T question the motives of your fellow posters.

Don’t blame Danny at all, they make a nice chunk of change for the tour so I feel bad poor Alexa didn’t make the cut, even if you do nothing else, the tour money is nice since I am sure all of this lot are starving artists……

Well I hate to break it to y’all but being a singer automatically means you like attention because uh like you aren’t really a singer without an audience – singing in the shower won’t get you anywhere unless you maybe run a webcam porn site.

And come on Anoop, we won’t blame you if you use your Idol status to get jiggy.

We all know they want to be there for the money and exposure but how Danny portrays himself about it is what turns me offà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦You donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t do a heart felt interview on how he wants to have this foundation for his wife..then turn around act like a fool and ask not to air that partà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.Makes me wonder what heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s really likeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

I think they all have said that Danny is basically a very funny/goofy guy in person. From all I’ve noticed, Danny is actually fairly popular among the idols themselves. They seem to have a good time with him.

I don’t think making the joke about money has anything to do with his heartfelt feelings for his foundation. Geez, you can’t walk around being serious and heartfelt all the time…that could become overbearing. Let the guy joke and have fun.

And yeah for all the good pay they make on the tour, they are working 24-7 essentially all summer and they are expected to be pleasant and accomodating to all and they worked long hours during the season itself.

If they aren’t doing press, they are meeting and greeting with the public or they are performing or they are on a frigging bus for hours on end where I suspect they get little sleep, and on top of that some of the peeps are squeezing studio time and songwriting into all that………sounds exhausting just thinking about it.

But it beats flipping burgers!

Kind of off topic, but Danny tweets now that he is in Milwaukee. I’m surprised they don’t have to stay in LA for rehearsals. He says hes working on getting the foundation set up. I know he has had meetings with the mayor about the foundation.

I’m just surprised they let him go off like that?

edit: don’t criticize your fellow posters

Kind of off topic, but Danny tweets now that he is in Milwaukee. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m surprised they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have to stay in LA for rehearsals. He says hes working on getting the foundation set up. I know he has had meetings with the mayor about the foundation.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m just surprised they let him go off like that?

It looks like the Idols rotate their rehearsal days. One day one group of Idols rehearse, the next day it’s another group. Today is probably Danny’s off, and he got Idol’s permission to go to Milwaukee for a day.

I thought Danny might have gone to that song because they were rehearsing it, and so he also wouldn’t have wanted the TMZ guy to post it. Just a thought

Oh my gosh! I completely saw that as Danny joking around! I think the reason he then said don’t air that was he knew everyone would jump on it.

I’ve always thought he left the competition later than he should have, not a fan, but also don’t think he’s scheming or conniving either.

That was pretty funny overall. However, I’m not sure of why TMZ thought it was TMZish. lol.

edit: you are very very close to getting banned

Heh. I thought Danny’s comments were funny! And I’m sure the money IS nice. I’m an Adam/Allison fan and Danny’s voice doesn’t appeal to me, but I think all he needs to come off as more likable is a good PR person. ANyway, he seems likable in this video!

And I agree, no one would go on AI if they didn’t want attention/exposure…singers need people who will pay attention to them and their music.

Even Danny covered his mouth and realized he shouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have sung à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Money, money, money.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Just one more example about how he just

Actually, Danny seemed to kind of mockingly cover up his mouth. I don’t think he thought what he said was that bad. I think he was being kinda silly with the whole thing. Of course there is truth to what he said, too.

Anywho, I just wanted to say also, that I love Anoop’s laidback personality. He reminds me sooo much of a friend of mine. He and Dany both seem like nice guys to me.

I wish Matt had talked more. He is a very funny guy, too. It’s good to see the idols out and enjoying each other.

In all fairness, (as a pro-Adam, anti-Danny person.. hehe) it does seem like anything Adam says is: good for him or he’s just being himself (who cares if he does drugs, blah blah) type of stuff while Danny gets the: he’s being himself- look at his true colors in a negative way.. To me, Danny just has no filter.

When I saw the four of them, I was just thinking that these are the ones not getting a record deal =( I’m rooting for Anoop and Matt though!

For those of us who like/enjoy both of them, the unfairness of it all is excruciating and frustrating.

Yes. On one level, it is one of the most, let’s call it interesting social phenomenas that I’ve ever seen, and appears to be largely confined to the online world (I suppose that making Top 3 is compelling evidence of that). On another level, as you say, it is maddening.

This was a fun video. I love both Adam and Kris and have enjoyed seeing them so much, but it’s great to see the other kids too!

Yes. On one level, it is one of the most, letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s call it interesting social phenomenas that Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve ever seen, and appears to be largely confined to the online world (I suppose that making Top 3 is compelling evidence of that). On another level, as you say, it is maddening.

About it being confined to the online world, that is soooo true. That’s one reason that I tend to believe that when it comes to the Danny hate, it’s been manufactured by blogs and EW and the like. It’s almost like a gang mentality…I’m not saying that to be critical of any group, it’s just that I really believe it to be true.

In the real world, EVERY SINGLE PERSON that I have talked to, liked either Adam or Danny. There literally was no other person that anyone mentioned as a favorite. But within the group of Adam lovers, none hated Danny or found him distasteful in the least. It’s an online thing, that seems to be fueled by itself. It seems people who are obsessed with AI, love picking a villian and dehumanizing that person. I don’t know that it says about people in terms of the social phenomena that you spoke of, all I do know is that it doesn’t apply to me. I have no problem seeing all of these people as basically the same, especially since I don’t realy know any of them. Adam is a human being with gifts and yes, faults. Danny is the same. They are people, and as such, they are much more alike than they are different.

I’m not a huge Danny fan but not a Danny hater either. My take on it is it was a joke. He was having fun. It shouldn’t be taken seriously. I mean if he went on a talk show and they asked him something along those lines and he said well I’m here for the money then yeah I could see people looking at him in a different light.

I’m sure he as well as the others didn’t try out for AI for the money. Maybe for fame, exposure, career but not just money. Anyone, even the horrible singers who try out for AI are there for those exact reasons.

In all fairness, (as a pro-Adam, anti-Danny person.. hehe) it does seem like anything Adam says is: good for him or heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just being himself (who cares if he does drugs, blah blah) type of stuff while Danny gets the: heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s being himself- look at his true colors in a negative way.. To me, Danny just has no filter

totally agree. ive never been a supporter of the Gokey, but lets get real.if adam had sung “money, money, money”, we would be giggling at his candor…but w. danny its another story.

During the competition, I have no issues w. disliking a contestant due to their performances/song choice/clothes etc. But afterwards, it gives me no pleasure or reason to start picking anyone apart.

I’m actually kinda glad TMZ stalked these guys in particular. They all need the exposure/publicity since none of them have been signed.

It seems everything that Adam says is either interpreted in the best possible light or excused.

I don’t think that’s true, otherwise there wouldn’t be this raging debate over Adam’s drug use and his talk about being a role model in the other thread.

Both Adam and Danny are polarizing but in different ways. However, more posters on this blog tend to favour Adam than Danny, hence the disparity in how they are perceived here.

totally agree. ive never been a supporter of the Gokey, but lets get real.if adam had sung à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“money, money, moneyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , we would be giggling at his candorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦but w. danny its another story.

Well, Adam has stated he went on AI for the exposure and to better his career opportunities so a comment about money wouldn’t be controversial. Danny, however, has talked a lot about his charitable foundation so the haterz are going to use his joke about money to paint him in a bad light.

Danny is not my favorite and he went further than I wanted him to. But, why does Danny have to filter everything he says?

I read where it’s cool that Adam is unfiltered, but Danny needs a filter? No offense to the poster who says he needs a filter, I think we are thinking along the same lines, it’s just something that has been mentioned before in a negative way.

It amazes me how we should all be tolerant of everything Adam says and does, but Danny or another idol is chastised for everything they say or do.

Well, Adam has stated he went on AI for the exposure and to better his career opportunities so a comment about money wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be controversial. Danny, however, has talked a lot about his charitable foundation so the haterz are going to use his joke about money to paint him in a bad light.

I don’t see how one can be positioned as “good” and one as “bad”. Adam said he wants to buy a house, nothing wrong with that. Danny said he wants to fund his foundation, nothing wrong with that. Having a foundation is meaningless unless it is funded to achieve its objectives.

Danny in this video is more endearing to me than the “movement” stuff. I thought the money thing was funny… and real (still don’t like his voice though).

I thought Lil was pretty funny as well with her comment that using Idol is the only way they will get girls. I am not a fan of her voice either, though. Still, Lil comes across quite well in the group setting.

I’m not a Danny fan at all – I actually didn’t really enjoy his performances – but this is nothing. Of course you get money, but you can tell that Danny wasn’t saying he’s doing it just for the money. You can tell he’s joking. I thought it was pretty funny actually.

Trivia – which season has signed the most contestants to a legitimate label? Do you think this season will sign more than previous seasons?

Trivia – which season has signed the most contestants to a legitimate label? Do you think this season will sign more than previous seasons?

I don’t know what you mean by legitimate label?
I would guess season 5 since all in the top 10 (except Lisa perhaps) have recorded an album?

I think this season there will be a lot of people who will end up recording something after the 3 that have alreasy signed. I think Matt and Danny will get a deal, after that it is hard to tell.

Trivia – which season has signed the most contestants to a legitimate label?

Hear are the ones I know about
S1:
RCA/19R – Kelly Clarkson (1)
RCA/19R – Justin Guarini (2)
RCA/19R – Nikki McKibbin (3)
19R – Tamyra Gray (4)
RCA – Ryan Starr (7) – not sure if she also signed with 19R
Koch – Jim Verraros (9)

S2:
J Records/19R – Ruben Studdard (1)
RCA/19R – Clay Aiken (2)
Curb – Kimberley Locke (3)
Lyric (a division of Disney) – Josh Gracin (4)
Vangaurd – Kimberley Caldwell (7)

Carmen signed with an Indie.

S3:
J Records/19R – Fantasia Barrino (1)
RCA/19R – Diana DeGarmo
Universal – Jasmine Trias (3)
World Records (division of Warner) – George Huff (5)
Maverick Records (division of Warner) – John Stevens (6)
Arista – Jennifer Hudson (7)

LaToya and Jon Peter Lewis signed with an Indie.

S4:
Arista/Nashville 19R – Carrie Underwood (1)
RCA/19R – Bo Bice (2)
Arista – Mario Vazquez (quit)

Constantine, Nadia and Nikko signed with Indies.

S5:
Arista/19R – Taylor Hicks (1)
RCA/19R – Katharine McPhee (2)
RCA/19R – Chris Daughtry (4)
BNA/19R – Kellie Pickler (6)
Lyric (divison of Disney) – Bucky Covington (8)
EMI – Mandisa (9)

Ace, Paris and Indie signed with Indies.

S6:
Jive/19R – Jordin Sparks (1)
Arista/19R – Blake Lewis (2)
Lyric (divison of Disney) – Phil Stacey (5/6)

Mandisa, Lakisha, Chris Sligh and Brondon Rogers signed with Indies. A couple of the semi-finalists signed with Universal Mowtown.

S7:
RCA/19R – David Cook (1)
Jive/19R – David Archuleta (2)
Atlantic (division of Warne) – Jason Castro (4)
BNA/19R – Kristy Lee Cook (7)

Brooke and Michael signed with Indies. Carly had previously been signed to MCA.

S8:
Jive/19R – Kris Allen (1)
RCA/19R – Adam Lambert (2)
Jive/19R – Allison Iraheta

Some auditioners like Josiah have gotten signed to major labels.

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For me, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not that anyone went on Idol for fame or a career, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s that Danny still seems too phony. Even here, when heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s honest that the best thing right now is the money, he immediately retracts it and says, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t air that.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Yes, he may have been kidding, but he may have been serious, in which case, own it Danny.

Unlike a lot of people here, I don’t think he was joking with the “money money money” comment – it seemed to me that he answered too quickly and gleefully for that to have been a “Oh I’m going to try and be witty right now” moment; also, the fact that immediately afterwards he was like “Oh – oh shoot! Don’t air that!” To me that was an unfiltered moment immediately followed by an “Oh did I just say that out loud? *Crap*…” moment. I’m not saying he’s an asshat (god I love that word!) for saying it at all (I’m sure the money is great!), but like the above-noted post, I think he just needs to ‘own’ his statements. To immediately try and cover it up equals a dishonest attitude, in my book.

Brings to mind the saying “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.”

Having said that, “You’re a new guy, aren’t you?!” was hilarious! And the TMZ Slug saying “So, are we going to your place to party?” and Anoop saying “Well, WE are…” Haha!

Adam has said that he one of the reasons he tried out for Idol was for attention and exposure.

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Why doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t that shock me? Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s definitely somewhat of an attention whore.

Then you might as well label ALL of the contestants that way, because why else do they even audition? Is their motivation “I’m doing this because I want to become a lawyer/politician/waiter/ballerina/circus clown”? No. They ALL want to “be discovered” and “become famous singers” – if they did not want the exposure and attention, they would limit their singing to the living room or the shower. Just because Adam actually said out loud and on the record that that was one of his main reasons for auditioning does not make him any less legitimate or deserving than any of the others. Just sayin’.

I think Danny’s response’s funny, it is clear to me that he was joking.

It is really not fair to compare what Danny’s said to the TMZ paps to what other idols said in a totally different setting. If Adam was asked the best thing about American Idol, I bet his answer would be different when asked by TMZ paps and the same question being asked by ABC 20/20 interviewer.

I remember a poster had said Adam seems to get the best interpretations of intention of what he said, and Danny got the worst, I think this is very true.

I also noticed that Danny is always courteous to the interviwers even to the TMZ paps, he said take care after the conversations, and he did that in other TMZ videos.

The past week has been all about Adam, it is actually nice to see a video on other contestants.

And the ass-hole who buys attention by supporting every charitable cause known to man is not my idea of an ideal type of individual.

Bill Gates?

IMO what is different about Adam, is that his strategy was to use AI as a platform to become a star, not to win. His stated goal from the beginning was to get to the final and to get a recording contract. If he had made the artist compromises needed to try to win, I doubt it would have worked anyway. He just would have been another AI contestant with a really great voice. Instead he did a series of notable performances that really positioned him well as an entertainer.

FWIW, that’s pretty much what Kris said as well. He said that he didn’t even really think about winning when he tried out and got on the show. He just hoped that doing the show would be a way for him to get into the music industry. I think that’s another reason that he has had such a laidback reaction to what the judges have said, and never really did anything different on the show in response to what the judges told him. He was there to demonstrate who he was as an musician in an effort to have people in the industry notice him, and, hopefully, sign him up. Now, that doesn’t mean that he didn’t make certain strategic choices along the way to appeal to the voters. He has said as much with regard to Heartless (he did really like the song, but he also said that he knew that “all the liitle kids” knew that song and thought they would have a great reaction to him changing it up). But, even those moves were also about showing off what he could do, and, by that point, he was really close to winning, so he went all in.

But, yeah. I don’t begrudge any of these folks making “money, money, money.” And I don’t begrudge them enjoying that fact. Although I’ll admit that I find it adorable that when people ask Kris what he’s going to buy now that he has “all this money,” that he can’t even seem to come up with anything except for maybe a nice guitar.

” immediately afterwards he was like oh – oh shoot – don’t air that ”

That was because He “sang” money money money instead of saying it, that is why immediately he sang it he covered his month and looked at Anoops and they all laughed. Idol constestants are not supposed to sing in front of the camera without AI approval, he just realized that immediately after he sang the 3 words.

It seems everything that Adam says is either interpreted in the best possible light or excused. Danny, on the other hand, can say the most mundane of things, and heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s interpreted as evil.

I do think that’s true — for one group of people .

But then I think there’s another group of commentators for whom this is true. “It seems everything that Danny says is either interpreted in the best possible light or excused. Adam, on the other hand, can say the most mundane of things, and he’s interpreted as evil.”

Now, that statement may be a little less germane here, because there don’t seem to be that many Danny fans here. But much of the world at large seems to be divided into the camps of Adam’s-a-jerk or Danny’s-a-jerk. They both come in for an amazing amount of what I’d call unfair scrutiny, if you look at various places on the web.

But I guess that comes with the territory of being a polarizing person.

Ace, Paris and Indie signed with Indies.

Hey, Kirsten, I assume that “Indie” here is Elliott!

Wow, this time you were funny without even trying! The true comedian makes humor out of a list of raw data!

Indie is a pretty funny name for Elliott.

I’m glad to see the Danny is the debil stuff dying down. He’s clueless and maybe that’s why a filter would help but he’s not the ogre the Internet made him out to be. The hatred of him especially at EW really went OTT this season in my opinion.

Now that the “worthy” people have been signed, it’s time to cut Danny a break. He’s def been passed by 19 and I think he should be allowed to enjoy his 15 minutes in peace.

Hey, Kirsten, I assume that à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Indieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  here is Elliott!

Right you are and now I cannot edit.

Indie is a pretty funny name for Elliott.

“We named the dog Indie!” Now I have visions of Elliott as Indiana Jones. Swinging through lost temples and punching out music execs right and left. Meanwhile, Clive rips the heart of yet another unsuspecting aspiring singer and Idol fans get possessed until Indiana Elliott saves the day!

I don’t see anything wrong with Danny singing “Money, Money, Money”. None of them are doing this tour for free. Plus, it was a flip answer and he was pretty funny with the “are you new?” stuff.

don’t fingerwag or lecture!

About it being confined to the online world, that is soooo true. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s one reason that I tend to believe that when it comes to the Danny hate, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been manufactured by blogs and EW and the like.

Yes. If you look at the TWoP recaps and Idolatrys, I believe that pretty much gives you the script that you see over and over and over. Some of that stuff comes with the territory and that does not offend me, for example, from what I recall the Kristen Baldwin sketches of “Kristen with glassess” vs “without glasses” were amusing. But when she went on a rant calling Danny vile names and saying who cares about his dead wife, well, to me that’s not entertainment, it was sickening. And why should we care about his dead wife? Well, why should we care that Adam felt like an outsider in high school? Why should we care that Scott had to overcome a serious disability? Why should we care about any of the struggles of the contestants? Maybe because we are normal human beings with the capacity to feel empathy? If they want to poke fun at the producers trying to manipulate emotions, that’s fine. But not ok to dehumanize a contestant and treat him or her with a degree of contempt that would be more appropriate for a mass murderer, rather than an ordinary guy with a big voice whose big “crime” was being overpimped by the judges. That wasn’t even his fault, but I guess that doesn’t matter.

As an affirmed Danny hater, even I have to agree that this was one of his better publicized moments. Kind of sad actually….

I would prefer if the “Go” in Gokey became “Gone for Good”, but others will of course disagree. I prefer the contestants that have already been signed. But that’s just me….

I don’t like Danny but have been willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the sake of the other contestants who “seem” to like him.

Well, Danny has just removed any smidgeon of doubt I had. He IS a douche.
True feelings often come off the top of one’s head without thinking. Just like the “right & Godly way” thing w/ him & Sarver. Danny is all about the money–and not just for his “foundation”…I’m tired of making excuses for his immature, incompetent behavior. I don’t think Danny’s dream was to be a singer like the others–Danny’s dream is to make lots of money any way he can–for himself.
If Danny gets signed anywhere, I will promptly vomit. He’s the oldest of the group and yet, even Allison is more mature than he.

And for the record, Adam didn’t say he did Idol for “attention”–he did it for exposure…there’s a difference. And anyone who performs in front of people likes attention—otherwise, why do it?

And why should we care about his dead wife? Well, why should we care that Adam felt like an outsider in high school? Why should we care that Scott had to overcome a serious disability? Why should we care about any of the struggles of the contestants?

Danny was the only one who kept bringing his “struggle” up throughout the competition. I have empathy for anyone’s stuggles–but not when they keep whining about it during a vote driven competition. It comes across as “feel sorry for me and vote for me”. That’s why people had a problem with it–not because they didn’t care that his wife died.

exactly, jlc. and well said. I’m sorry for anyone’s struggles, and sorry about Danny’s wife. But I sure wasn’t going to vote for him because of it!

Danny was the only one who kept bringing his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“struggleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  up throughout the competition.

Really? I don’t recall him bringing it over and over during the competition, but YMMV, and that’s fine.

As, I said before I’m not a Danny fan.

Was I watching a different show? I don’t remember Danny bringing up his wife.

I do remember EW going on about it quite abit. I don’t know why. Maybe the poster remembers Danny’s wife from EW?

I still think these four were adorable. They answered the questions in a straight-forward manner, and they said some funny bits. However, some people will never be pleased by what other people say or do; some will always be pleased no matter what the other say or do.

Really? I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t recall him bringing it over and over during the competition, but YMMV, and thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fine.

Nope. I just rewatched the entire season this week. Obsessed much? I guess so.

Anway, the show brought it up. From what I gather, Danny had one interview and they reused snippets of it. This made it seem as though he was bringing it up, but he wasn’t. Not his fault.

again, what does this clip have to do with adam? Stop fingerwagging and lecturing

Anyhew, Danny sure did love his wife. Wow. I don’t recall Kris saying much about his wife, and Adam sure didn’t acknowledge his mate, did he.

Just sayin. Love that about Danny.To dream about having someone profess their love like that? This is the stuff movies are made of and novels are made.

People really bought into the red state v. blue state bs Idol was pushing S8.

I like Danny. During the show, I had some issues with him, but I like him now. I thought he was covering his mouth because he shouldn’t be singing a song while on camera and still with American Idol. I mean, Anoop or Matt..one of the others, said “money” at the same time that Danny sang it. I thought the issue might have been licensing. Just like on the “real world” or “big brother”, contestants could never sing on camera, because royalties might have to be paid.

I like all of them, but not danny. Sorry, never was a fan of Danny.

I have never been a Danny fan(and never will be). Especially because he might be the biggest reason Adam didn’t win this year (Danny votes went to Kris…). However, now I feel a little sad for the guy. With Adam, Kris and Alison all signed with a record deal, it got to feel like a slap on the face for Danny. AI really just built him up then dumped him without mercy. If you think about it, he actually is the ultimate victim out of this whole thing…So guys, just give him a break.

About it being confined to the online world, that is soooo true. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s one reason that I tend to believe that when it comes to the Danny hate, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been manufactured by blogs and EW and the like. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s almost like a gang mentalityà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not saying that to be critical of any group, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just that I really believe it to be true.

In the real world, EVERY SINGLE PERSON that I have talked to, liked either Adam or Danny. There literally was no other person that anyone mentioned as a favorite.

I’m not comfortable with the insinuation that if I don’t like Danny, it’s because I subscribe to a gang mentality. I totally reject that theory. I form my own opinions and if I don’t like Danny, I just don’t like him. I’ve been avoiding the Danny threads because I don’t want to continually rag on him, but I had to respond to this.

You say “in the real world” every person you talk to likes Danny. But that is your world, the place you live and work, the circles you run in, the people you know. I can say that most people I talk to don’t like him. I live in a different place and hang around different people. So you can’t go by what your circle of acquaintences thinks, that’s a tiny spec in the swarm of humanity.

Please rethink your theory because most of us aren’t sheep playing follow the leader. Probably people of like minds tend to congregate on various blogs, so this blog probably has more non-fans of Gokey than some other blogs might. You might also ask what kind of people use the internet, are they more educated, for instance? There are a lot of ways to look at it, but thinking we are all being hypnotized by the internet blogs to dislike Danny is not a workable theory.

I don’t blame Danny for being excited about the $. The reality is for him, Scott, Lil, Sarver, and probably Megan, this tour will be the most money they ever make. They need it for their families. Let’s face it, you go on AI for fame and fortune and there’s nothing wrong with being upfront about it.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not comfortable with the insinuation that if I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like Danny, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s because I subscribe to a gang mentality

I understand what you are saying. And of course this would not apply to every single person. I still think that many people are like sheep. Hey, I’m a teacher…I see this mentality all the time. I have actually been shocked at times by how much the posts on some boards (please don’t think I’m referring to MJs) resemble the behavior of, not my high schoolers, but rather the 6th graders I taught a few years back.

So yeah, maybe you, personally, are not influenced by what you have seen and read and so on. I can certainly believe that on an individual level. But, that certainly doesn’t mean that many people are not. It seems it became the popular/cool thing to do to hate on Danny.

Now, let me just say, I am not talking about hating his singing, song choices, stage presence, etc. I am talking about the people that hate him so bad that they feel the need to rip apart every little word, expression, and run it in the ground. They have, of course, every right to do so.

Also, I understand about the whole “my demographics” versus yours. I’ve thought about that, too. Still, I do come in contact with hundreds of teenagers every single day (I know, same community, but still), I do think it odd that not one person, regardless of their preference for another contestant, thought Danny to be the antichrist.

Also, if Danny was so hated by the general public, he wouldn’t have made it top 3.

I still stand by my original statement, although I do agree that it obviously does not apply to every single Danny hater.

Reminder:

Wow. A couple of you are VERY CLOSE to getting banned. FOLLOW MY RULES.

DO NOT:

1. Fingerwag or lecture posters.
2. Question the motives of posters or put words in their mouths.
3. Hijack the thread or take it off-topic
4. Criticize posters or their opinions.
5. Adam and Kris ARE NOT THE SUBJECT OF THIS POST.

Those of you who have been posting in this thread need to check back at my edits. I edited quite a few posts.

It seems it became the popular/cool thing to do to hate on Danny.

And people get to do that here without being treated like they are members of your 6th grade class. Disagree, but don’t lecture OR fingerwag.

I’m sorry, mj. Thanks for putting the clip up, anyway. I enjoyed it. I’ll do better.

aek, I didn’t even vote for Danny. But at this point I swear I hope he kicks all their asses. I understand how you feel honey. :bye_tb:

I thought the clip was funny. I loved seeing Anoop and Danny was pretty funny especially with the “you’re a new guy” comment. I’ve been skipping the Kris and Adam threads but happy to see some of the others.

Danny needs a crash course in dealing with the paparazzi. Here he talks about money, money, money and at the finale afterparty he asked a fan if the fan was going to sell his autograph while on camera.

Danny needs a crash course in dealing with the paparazzi. Here he talks about money, money, money and at the finale afterparty he asked a fan if the fan was going to sell his autograph while on camera.

The “fan” wouldn’t let him make it out to anyone. He knew that the guys there were selling all of these autographs on ebay, and he said “Come on, let me make it out to someone.” And then he said, “I’ll just make it out to ebay.”

He was polite to the guys, but he did say “How much do you guys make off of us?” And then he told them they should donate some of the money to charity. I got the sense that he had already talked to these guys and signed things for them before because the one guy said, and I’m paraphrasing, “I’ll give to Sophia’s Heart Foundation, because you took care of me back at (somewhere).

Danny said “No, you don’t have to give to my charity, I’m just saying that if you are gonna sell these, then you should give some money to help other people out. (Again, paraphrasing)

I find it very annoying when nonfans get these autographs and sell them on ebay. I remember being at a tour concert in NC back in Season 5 and seeing some guys with like 15 8X10 pictures of Taylor standing out there waiting with the others for autographs. When Taylor walked by, they yelled out for him to come and sign autographs. Taylor didn’t come immediately and they were calling him a “jerk.” Then when he does come over and sign, they give him this envelope with all of these pics to sign, tell him they just want his name, and Taylor patiently signs every single one of them. I know he knew what their agenda was. I found these guys very distastful, and so I don’t begrudge Danny for speaking his mind, and sort of calling them out on it.

Aek, might be a little late to comment on this but I am totally with you on viewing a mob or gang mentality in regards to Danny hating.

I think this orginated from within the media and my theory is some media with a vested interest in a certain contestant got together to create a propaganda war against Danny.

In a way, this is why I am very pro-Danny. He’s the little guy with no connections going up against the massive media machine.

but I am totally with you on viewing a mob or gang mentality in regards to Danny hating.

I am sure it is an easier pill to swallow to think that your fav is the target of a massive “hate” campaign than it is to understand that Danny did and said a lot of things that were more than distasteful to many people who are just fans of American Idol. And, if the big media machine would have been in play I am sure that Kris would have fallen under the same “hate” umbrella.

Danny is and will always be the American Idol finalist that I have the least respect for. The man has no filter and offends constantly.

And, if the big media machine would have been in play I am sure that Kris would have fallen under the same à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“hateà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  umbrella.

Kris was never, even up until the end, perceived to be the threat to the favorite that Danny was.

And in many ways, Kris did end up being dissed by the media in the end. But it was too late to build a campaign against him, he had already won. However, I will say, that Kris’s personality is such that there is not really much that you could pull out and spin in a negative way. Both Adam and Danny have “bigger” personalities…not better, but definately bigger. Kris is just a person that you can’t imagine anyone not liking.

Anyway, I don’t really think the broader media perpetrated any kind of campaign against Danny, I really only saw this with EW and AI blog sites..again, an Internet thing. That’s why I feel that it’s mainly only the people who frequent Internet AI sites that realize that Danny is despised.

About Danny being my favorite. He actually wasn’t…Adam was. Danny was a second favorite, based on his singing voice, which I love. Adam, really, had it all going on. I actually watched AI rather casually in the beginning this year, paying more attention after the top 10 were chosen. Believe it or not, my sister had to remind me in late March that Danny’s wife had died…when she told me, I was like, “Oh yeah, I remember that.”

I happened on the Internets in mid April, and it was only then that I realized that there was such negativity surrounding Danny. So then I started trying to find out all that I could about him to see where/why this was happening. Well, I couldn’t find anything in his background that should justify the slaying that he was getting. From there, I suppose it’s almost a motherly instinct that has kicked in. I just can’t stand what I perceive as injustice. But I understand that everyone’s perception is their own reality…what can you do?

aek thanks for your answer, it’s true that people often do like to play it safe and follow the crowd, I’ve always been more of a rebel or individualist (which doesn’t always lead to popularity).

Since I dislike Danny, it’s easy for me to think that people truly do dislike him and aren’t just jumping on a bandwagon. If anything, it’s probably possible here to diss him, so he is dissed, but it’s also possible to diss the other idols, and that happens too, but maybe they have more fans here who defend them.

I sometimes get the feeling that fans of Danny are shocked that people don’t like him because maybe on other boards/blogs he is well liked (and they probably aren’t the boards/blogs I would go to) (i.e. they are probably more conservative or religious)

I have suspected groupthink on these boards though because there is such agreement on some issues:

1) taylor swift can’t sing (I disagree)
2) Roger the publicist is a jerk (though nobody will say why)
3) Kellie Pickler can’t sing (again I disagree)
4) Larry King is a terrible interviewer (I disagree)

I could go on. So see, Danny isn’t the only one who gets dissed here. Maybe you’re just more sensitive to it when it comes to him.

I like that you came up with a theory and expressed it well. Though I assure you that I don’t like Danny and neither does my friend, and not because anyone influenced us. It’s one of the few times I’m in the majority viewpoint here (or most places).

I’m not a sheep and I don’t follow anyone. I have my own mind and made it up the first time Danny mentioned his wife’s death, which was during auditions. It should never have been mentioned to begin with–and yes, he did mention it throughout the competition, referring to it either directly, or indirectly by mentioning his “foundation” (which is an organization asking for money and another thing that should never have been mentioned until after the competition) and by talking about his “tragedy to triumph”.

I find any evangelical religion questionable, and that is what Faith Builders is. If you want to talk about mob mentality and people blindly following–check one or two of them out. They either are or border on being, cults. They prey (not pray) on people who are looking for someplace to “belong” or “fit in” and take advantage of that dire need.

I question any religious group who constantly asks for money and tells people the more they give, the more God likes them and the better their chance of getting into heaven. I especially question one whose pastors flaunt their own riches (and where did those riches come from?) with material things. I question any religious group whose pastor is clearly commiting one of the Seven Deadly Sins–gluttony–when there are probably people going hungry in his own community.

I question a contestant who represents a “foundation” that asks for money to help children while he flaunts his many eyeglasses–which don’t come cheap. I have never heard of any truck driver or church music leader–in other words, your average “Joe”–being able to afford so many pairs of prescription glasses. If you are going to create a foundation that asks people to give money–people who may not even have a pot to piss in–then you should not be spending your own money on excessive, wasteful, non-essential things. Danny should be leading by example, and he clearly does not.

When someone asks you what some of the “perks” of being an Idol are and the first word out of your mouth is “money”–you deserve any criticism you get. While they may deserve to earn the money, and enjoy it–it is utterly tactless, not to mention shallow, to have that be the first thing that comes to your mind and announce so blatantly. However, I found it very consistent with Danny’s previous behavior.

I have no respect for Danny. He has demonstrated his shallow, self-absorbed personality throughout the Idol competition and continues to do so post-Idol. In addition, he just isn’t–in my opinion–that good of a singer to begin with.
By the way, I saw his twitters from yesterday–regarding his “money” remark–and, me thinks thou doth (once again) profess to being a “jokester” too much.

So, no, I do not like Danny Gokey and no one told me not to like him. I base my dislike on my own observations of his behavior, and the behavior of those he represents.

The funny thing is that Danny was totally pimped by the judges all along until the end. They wanted him in the finale and they said that since day one. People complain about Adam being pimped but Danny was pimped far more and I didn’t think his performances justified it. That contributed to my not liking him, as well as his personality, his fundamentalism, his smile which looks like a smirk, I’ll stop there. Except to add that I also suspect he is homophobic, that he and Sarver are both that way and that is why Adam is uncomfortable around him and why Gokey and Sarver pal around together, they have a lot in common when it comes to their views.

Lots of assumptions being made. And in fact it sounds like stereotyping to me.

If you are religious, you are homophobic ….
If you are religious, you shouldn’t like money and should give all your money away….

Maybe you are spending too much time on message boards and need to go outside and get some fresh air? Anyways, i give all the contestants credit for going out and exposing their lives to such scrutiny.

@canuck:

I don’t know which post(s) you are referring to, but, for the record, I assumed nothing (I drew conclusions from my own observations) and sterotyped no one. I said I “question”. And I didn’t make either of those “religious” statements regarding homophobia or money.

Now I will go outside and get some fresh air. Care to join me?

jilc – Danny did NOT keep mentioning his wife death throughout the competition, it is what you perceived. Danny lost his wife 4 weeks prior to audition, this is who he was, the producer thought that was a great story and ran with it, and if you watched how the producer persuaded Kris and his wife to post with a cute apron and thought it was a good idea, you should know that there was very little the contestant could do about what the producer wanted to go for a story. How could Danny keep the secret? I am sure you need to reveal if you’re single or married, and yes if widowed to the AI producers before you signed the contract.

His brother in law did show the couple’s photo during the Top 30 week when he sang Hero, and he already addressed it and it was not his idea. You certainly can choose not to believe it.

After that he did not mention his death wife until he was eliminated at T3, yes there had been constant mentioning on his death wife by the bloggers and no less at EW Idolatary. There were posters saying after he sang Endless Love that he looked up as if he was addressing his wife, saying that was “disgusting”, to me this is ridiculous and Danny bashing to the extreme.

Many posters in this thread even most non Danny supporters thought the video clip was funny and saw nothing wrong with that, you are entitled to your opinion but you and a few other posters are clearly seeing something what you “think” you saw and what most of us did not see.

@jlc – Fresh air was really nice. I’m too lazy to go back and quote, yes homophobic one wasn’t attributed to you.

Guess it’s ok not to like a performer but from my viewpoint, i never get my knickers in a knot if i don’t like a performer. In fact there are piles of performers that i don’t like but i respect their contributions to entertainment. Just off the top of my head, i despise Rod Stewart – i think he is really sleazy but yes some of his songs are iconic.

Now about the dead wife business( I even hate typing that). I remember that photo at the beginning and it seemed wrong to me. Idol people really exploited that didn ‘t they? I kind of felt sorry for Danny then, thought it was kind of an unusual support group there too. Where were his parents? Kind of out his control that one and too bad.

I don’really remember him bringing up his wife other than that. The money and religion well I said what I thought of that already.

@kokko – i thought idolatry was crossing the line too . Personally i don’t get off on virtual contestant stoning so i have stayed away ever since.
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i have kind of wondered if they actually did cross the line and could have been considered to be harassing someone. i don’t
think that would be allowed in Canada though.

I thought Danny Gokey was an average singer in the beginning, not outstanding but ok, it was his behavior that started to make me dislike him and just to expand on that a little, here’s how it happened for me. 1. The Gokey/Sarver comments on contestants interview each other week and the telling comment “we love each other in a Godly way” when there had been much spectulation on Adam’s sexuality and Kris’ and Adam’s friendship. To me they both showed their TRUE COLORS and that color was Homophobic. 2. The unforgivable way Gokey invited Adam to a public place for dinner with his family and ridiculed him by bringing out a picture of Adam with green body paint and dressed in what most would consider drag and asking Adam to sign it for him. (It actually was a picture of a play Adam acted in called Herlon or something to that effect.) The vindictive E-Mails that were hacked of Gokey’s relatives and the hateful comments they made about Adam were very hate filled and needless to say this signed picture would have apparently been a joke shared by all the family in a “Godly way”, of course. 3. The sucker punch Gokey took at Adam on Larry King Live when the 10 finalists appeared while looking straight at Adam “some people are not showing their true colors” wqs not even responded to by anyone including guest host Ryan Seacrest. It was a very low blow and inappropriate. 4. Gokey tried to copycat Adam shamelessly through Season 8, first with the boots identical to Adam’s. then came the chunk chain, the same black jeans Adam had worn, “borrowing the stage mannerisms from the way Adam looked at the camera to his stance, running downstage to perform in front of the judges, and then the final embarrasment for Gokey trying to do an Adam ending high note to “Dream On” and sounding very ridiculous and thankfully getting voted off the show after that tackiness. 5. On Regis and Kelly Live talking about his ‘”products” when Adam had previously made the statement about sharing a bathroom with Kris and mentioning Kris only had 2 or 3 “products” as compared to Adam’s 30 or 40. This was making Gokey look pretty pathetic.