More on the Confusing Wild Card Round: Anoop Makes It? Plus, Will the Kids Perform the Same Songs?

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I just got an email from a friend who could not make head nor tails out of this confusing article from the Associated Content.

The “wildcard round” is one show, scheduled for next Thurday.   During the episode, the judges will add 3 more contestants to the 9 contestants already voted through to the Top 12 by viewers during the 3 previous semi-final weeks.

This Reality TV World article, from December, provides a clearer explanation of what will go down, straight from Ken Warwick’s press conference:

Then on Thursday, March 5, Fox will air a special “Wild Card” performance episode that will feature each semifinalist group’s highest remaining votegetter who didn’t already get to automatically advance to the finals will get a second chance to perform along with several additional semifinalists that the judges will  select.

“They [will be able to]Â  make that fourth show up to probably about nine or ten people, we haven’t quite decided yet,” Warwick explained.

After  all the “Wild Card” semifinalists perform, the judges — not the show’s home viewers — will immediately select three of them to  complete the season’s  twelve finalists.

The Associated Content article claims that 12 contestants will compete in the wildcard round.

But it would be impossible to have 12 contestants sing plus the judges choose their picks, all within a 1 hour show.   Unless they assemble 12 contestants, but only allow 8-10 perform.   That’s how the wildcard operated during Season 3.

So I’m thinking there will be 9-10 contestants performing next Thursday, made up of the 3 next-highest vote-getters from the semi-final rounds, with the producers/judges choosing the rest. Already, we know that Anoop Desai will compete, as he was the next-highest vote getter after Michael Sarver last week.

Also, I’m hearing that the wildcard contestants will sing the same song they performed during their semi-final week, but that’s still a rumor.   Makes sense–without a week between the last semi-final round and the wildcard (like in season’s past) there is no time for the band to work up new arrangements with the newly chosen wildcard picks.

 
  • ilovetohateai

    well anoop is kinda screwed with his song choice.

  • holeighannie

    Hmm. This Wild Card thing kind of makes my head hurt. I hope people we haven’t seen any of (like Kris Allen) will get the chance to perform in the Wild Card Round.

  • soundscene

    well anoop is kinda screwed with his song choice.

    I doubt it, actually. The judges lurve Anoop. If indeed he can’t change his choice, they’ll know this, so I suspect one may choose him regardless. They’re not going to penalize him twice for the same sin.

    (Actually, I didn’t mind his choice considering some of the other choices that night)

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=587900002&ref=name cruzceleste

    I hate this… I hope Ricky get to top 12 or AI is loosing a international viewer this year…

  • lakerchristinee

    I don’t think Anoop is in any danger. If the judges take into account that Angel of Mine almost made the Top 12, then they should have no problem putting him through. I don’t see the point though of having them perform the same songs…

  • jtgraffix

    yeah i didn’t have any problems with anoop choosing angel of mine. there ARE better song choices, but i was content with it. anoop’s too likeable not to make it in the top 12.

  • St.Lucia

    I just think I do not like this format.

    I’m glad I’m going to be seeing Anoop again. Not sure I love having to have him sing that same craptastic song as the first time I saw him.

    But Paula who LURVES Ricky will probably pick him.

    I’m curious to see the other 3 judges picks as well as seeing what other 2 contestand get through this week and next.

  • soundscene

    There’s 3 wildcards, so I think it’s got to be a collective choice for each of the 3 rather than each judge picking somebody (like it was in the past). That is unless they don’t give Kara a choice. lol.

  • http://www.myspace.com/gwendolyndiane GwendolynD

    Lisa Leuschner’s season, didn’t they have the wildcard contestants go through a private round with them and the judges only, then on TV, those who made it through to the next wildcard round performed on live TV? Then, the judges made their decision from that reduced number? Maybe this’ll be how that works.

    If they do have to sing their initial choice again, that’s stinks. But, I still feel that they’ve already pretty much made up their minds who the 3 wildcards will be, unless someone comes up with a blow-your-mind performance.

    I think Anoop may be as good as in. He’s the only one I can say that about right now.

  • erennick

    Yee-uck! This season (format, lack of diversity in styles) just keeps getting worse and worse for me!

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=587900002&ref=name cruzceleste

    Thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s 3 wildcards, so I think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s got to be a collective choice for each of the 3 rather than each judge picking somebody (like it was in the past). That is unless they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t give Kara a choice. lol.

    I think they won ´t give Randy a choice… what is he going to said… “Anoop you will in tha house… dog…”

  • http://www.myspace.com/swood1104 Sarah

    I really don’t like this format. The idea of them singing the same song again is L-A-M-E. Ugh. I guess that rules Stevie and Casey out for sure then. Heh.

    I like Ricky well enough, but if it comes down to him and Anoop for a wildcard spot, I’d pick Anoop. I also hope that if Adam and Felicia don’t get into the top 12 from their respective groups, that they’ll also get a wildcard berth. Although I think Adam should be fine, based on his screentime thus far, but you never know. I’m not making any assumptions. But anyway, I’m more worried for Felicia. If they didn’t put her into the top 36 to begin with, who’s to say they’ll give her a shot in the wildcard if she doesn’t make top 12 from her group, unless she’s the 4th highest vote getter? I guess my phone better be ready to vote for the next two weeks.

    From the other thread – I think Kirsten might be onto something with the idea of each judge picking a wild card contestant and having a top 13 instead of 12 – because as others said, I remember reading something a while back about a twist on top 12 week. That would definitely qualify as a twist.

  • yf7184

    As much as I love hearing mj’s and gwen’s confidence about Anoop, I am very nervous about the WC.

    It makes sense that they would sing the same sonf they did in the first place, because the Group 3 contestants will have less than 24 hours to get ready. However, in terms of the rating, that would be a very bad thing to do. I believe lots of casula viewers would not turn on if they realize that all the kids are going to just sing the same songs.

  • KrazeeK120

    But Paula who LURVES Ricky will probably pick him.

    Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m curious to see the other 3 judges picks as well as seeing what other 2 contestand get through this week and next.

    I haven’t seen anywhere that individual judges are picking Wild Cards. If that is the case, one of the judges would be left out (seeing as there are 4 judges and 3 Wild Card spots). Based on what I’ve read, it appears that the judges (read: TPTB) are collectively going to choose which contestants receive the Wild Card spots.

  • http://www.myspace.com/gwendolyndiane GwendolynD

    Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m more worried for Felicia.

    So am I.

    I know that her initial rejection from the Top 36 wasn’t unanimous, but still…they didn’t want her the first time, collectively.

    She’s had less than 1/2 the amount of screen time that Alexis Grace had, so I’m thinking she’ll have to pull off an astronomical performance to be voted in. Plus, won’t she be in the same group with Lil Rounds? Maybe there’s a chance she’ll outsing her.

    Yep. This format appears to be sucking more every minute. Sigh.

  • http://myspace.com/saltwatercures pj

    I’m really crossing my fingers the producers aren’t dumb enough to have them sing the same songs. What a snooze fest. The only time anyone wants a reprise is if it was a show stopper, and if any of them were show stoppers, they would have made it through already.

  • NickDaddyo

    Seriously…

    A night of rejects repeating songs = BAD IDEA.

  • http://myspace.com/bigbooty_hoes sarahjean

    remember what happened last year when the show repeated a theme?
    ugh, could you imagine repeating SONGS?
    stupid decision, hopefully they don’t make it.

  • s0x_prisoner

    Same songs? Ugh, that’s not a good idea.

  • Natasha

    The same song? Anyone who was criticized for making a bad song choice is screwed. It’s not like the judges are going to like it any better the second time around. Doesn’t sound like very good TV either.

  • bean99

    Has Felicia had any screen time? I don’t even remember her. I kind of doubt she’ll make to top 12 unless she really brings it and stands out in her group.

    I hope the repeating songs rumor is wrong. If the band during Hollywood week can play for the number of singers they do then why not a different song for the wildcards? A scaled back band for them would be an improvement anyway.

    I just hope that the public doesn’t vote in someone undeserving and leave some of the more talented ones out because I don’t want anyone standing in between Anoop and a wildcard spot. :ohmy_tb:

  • St.Lucia

    Has Felicia had any screen time? I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t even remember her. I kind of doubt sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll make to top 12 unless she really brings it and stands out in her group.

    Probably a grand total of 30 seconds!

    I do worry about Felicia. I like her from earlier videos on youtube and what not, and therefore I’m a fan already. However I worry that her lack of exposure isn’t enough to win over the fans who have no clue who Felicia Barton is.

    She has to NAIL it tomorrow.

  • ozarka

    From the other thread – I think Kirsten might be onto something with the idea of each judge picking a wild card contestant and having a top 13 instead of 12 – because as others said, I remember reading something a while back about a twist on top 12 week. That would definitely qualify as a twist.

    That’s sounds interesting, but how about this possibility: Each of the 4 judges picks his/her contestant. Then near the end of the show, of those 4 selected, Ryan reveals to us which of them received the fewest number of viewer votes, and must therefore be let go, leaving us with the Top 12. That would be an interesting twist, wouldn’t it? Besides, Ryan has always said “top 12″ on the show. There was never any mention of any other number. Plus, this way, it gives the semblance of viewer control on who gets voted in.

  • KrazeeK120

    She has to NAIL it tomorrow.

    She’s on next week’s show.

  • St.Lucia

    Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s on next weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s show.

    Ha. I knew that.

    Okay. She has to NAIL it then. :)

    Thanks.

  • cay

    If they are the “borderline” contestants, then the judges need to hear a different song. How boring to sing the same.

    Anoop’s future is riding on who gets in these next two weeks. If there are more “upsets” then it’s a competition for those slots. Also, I still don’t think they’ll take more than 7 guys.

    With so many talented guys, they should have a top 13 and take 8 guys in my opinion. Then leave it up to us. I REALLY want 8 guys.

  • KrazeeK120

    Okay. She has to NAIL it then. :)

    Thanks.

    No problem!

    And yes, she does. I like the 5 seconds I saw of her and I want her in the top 12 just to stick it to TPTB.

  • cay

    I’d be feeling pretty good if I were a girl. Especially after last week. There is no way they won’t take AT LEAST 5 girls. If, like most people think, only 3 get in the 3 rounds, then 2 wildcards will probably be girls. They will get that second chance to impress. I think the judges will be open (whereas the one wildcard guy will be pretty apparent)

  • judy

    So they set up the three groups of twelve to get the results they want, then they choose the remaining three who go into the final twelve and then they continue to manipulate to get the winner they want.

    Do the votes from the public really matter any more?

  • shruco

    The same songs???

    Can this season get any worse?

  • bruno

    question to anyone who can answer.

    did ryan actually say that anoop was the next highest vote getter. i remember him saying that only 20,000 votes separated anoop from michael but i don’t recall him saying he was the next highest. in theory, tatiana could have placed closer to michael than anoop.

  • dahirsh

    No, he didn’t

  • soundscene

    did ryan actually say that anoop was the next highest vote getter. i remember him saying that only 20,000 votes separated anoop from michael but i donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t recall him saying he was the next highest. in theory, tatiana could have placed closer to michael than anoop.

    He didn’t, but I’d bet he was next highest vote-getter. I’d be pretty shocked if he wasn’t. He is too well-liked, and Tatiana is too polarizing.

    So they set up the three groups of twelve to get the results they want, then they choose the remaining three who go into the final twelve and then they continue to manipulate to get the winner they want.

    Basically, yes. The semis format is a little more manipulated this year, but audience and contestant manipulation is nothing new for Idol.

  • aly

    I think I’m about to BAIL. It’s a BORE.

  • KrazeeK120

    He didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d bet he was next highest vote-getter. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be pretty shocked if he wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t. He is too well-liked, and Tatiana is too polarizing.

    I feel the same way. Plus, out of 20 million votes, 20,000 is actually really close. I’d be surprised if someone else was in between there.

  • bruno

    i have found with ai, that it’s all in how it is worded, i.e. how ryan says something. so if he didn’t explicitly state that anoop was the 4th highest vote getter, then you never know…

  • littlepark

    Do the votes from the public really matter any more?

    I’m wondering what is even point of wild card show if judges are the ones doing the picking…

  • dreamr

    If I remember correctly, that’s how the Season One wildcard was done. They called five contestants back, the five performed, and then the judges picked one to be the 10th finalist. So this isn’t new except to people who didn’t watch the show way back then. lol

  • maturin

    If the rumor is true that they have to sing the same song they’ve already done, what a huge disappointment. I guess I’ll wait to see if it’s confirmed, but if true, I’m hitting the off button.

    They could have had a great show that was really entertaining to the audience, where the contestants got fresh energy off doing a new song and had a chance to breakthrough and charm us, as many contestants have done in prior Top 24, 20 and 16 shows. If they have to do a reprise this early: predict a crappy show, followed by selection of people judges have already made their minds up on. Just go ahead and pick them offscreen if they aren’t allowed a new performance. Jeez, they really don’t care if we ever buy these people’s records, it seems like.

  • http://www.theidolguy.com leo

    Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m wondering what is even point of wild card show if judges are the ones doing the pickingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

    Why, so the judges can have their pick of cannon fodder for their favorites, of course.

  • cookcricket

    I think they won ´t give Randy a choiceà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ what is he going to saidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Anoop you will in tha houseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ dogà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

    Perhaps Randy and Kara will choose together. Randy will choose and Kara will translate. (tm EW).

  • shruco

    If I remember correctly, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s how the Season One wildcard was done. They called five contestants back, the five performed, and then the judges picked one to be the 10th finalist. So this isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t new except to people who didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t watch the show way back then. lol

    No, because at least they allowed those five contestants to sing new songs. According to WNTS, it turned out not to a bad show. It was much higher rated than the three earlier group rounds, anyway. This season’s travesty is going to be a night of repeats leading to three preordained picks, squeezed between 90 minutes of commercials. As I said before: Can this season get any worse?

  • windmills

    You guys know Associated Content isn’t an official news source right? It’s not the Associated Press. Associated Content is just a place for fan articles. It doesn’t do any independent reporting and in fact has accepted at least one submission that was a fake interview with Carrie Underwood that pulled old quotes from different interviews and pieced them together to make them seem new.

  • hypertwink

    I’m just glad that Ricky is going to sing the same song. That was pretty…hopefully, he’ll make it prettier.

  • Kirsten

    Why do I think that they’ve been specifically vague on the details for the Wildcard round so that they can “make it up as they go along”?

    Or maybe they just like us buzzing about the details. If we knew what they were, we’d stop speculating and Idol abhors a lack of buzz.

    Oh, those manipulating producers!

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    You guys know Associated Content isn’t an official news source right?

    That’s why I chose to quote a more reliable source. The Reality TV article I linked to has direct quotes from Ken Warwick. So, it’s a pretty good bet that the information about the next highest vote getter is correct.

    Also, the information about the songs being a reprise did NOT come from Associated Content and are still a rumor.

  • CRB

    I despise reprisals, so I sure hope that part is wrong.

  • chicksineggz

    Seriously, if they’re gonna make them sing the same songs they might as well have just put 4 people through in each group.

  • http://idolstages.com Connie D.

    About reprising the songs:

    I think maybe there is a short list of cut-down songs that the band knows from Hollywood Week, and the kids can choose any of them. These are professional musicians and backup singers, so it’s a no-brainer for them.

    Groups 1 and 2 will already be rehearsed. They will only have to work with the Group 3 wildcard candidates overnight.

    I can’t stand to hear the same songs. grrrrr.

  • http://myspace.com/saltwatercures pj

    Connie, the band has been there forever. No doubt they know a LOT of songs. Surely there are songs they can choose from that aren’t the same as they did before.

  • primeminister

    SO are the contestants allowed to play instruments during the semifinals?

  • dreamr

    No, because at least they allowed those five contestants to sing new songs.

    Um, I wasn’t saying anything about whether or not they got to sing new songs. I know they got to sing new songs. That wasn’t my point. I was simply talking about the judges picking the wildcards and not us by voting.

  • http://myspace.com/saltwatercures pj

    Excellent question, PM. I’m guessing not. I’m beginning to believe these changes are of the “jumping the shark” variety. I miss Nigel. There, I said it.

  • CRB

    I miss Nigel. There, I said it.

    Nigel had a passion for song and dance shows that somebody like Ken Warwick simply doesn’t appear to have. I think a lot of this new change is Simon Cowell’s ideas being realized. He has said in interviews that he wanted more “political incorrectness” and “controversy” and I think that is where this show is headed.

  • sparklesgirl2

    Excellent question, PM. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m guessing not. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m beginning to believe these changes are of the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“jumping the sharkà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  variety. I miss Nigel. There, I said it.

    I think I might miss him too!

    Whatever happened to Superstars of Dance? Is that still even on?

    To those who hope Felicia brings it in a week – I think she just might. Her voice is KILLER. If she sings like she does in that sidewalk YouTube video, I’ve got to think people will take notice. And I think the publicity for being the last “in” and replacing Joanna will do her good, not harm.

  • kat110

    Does anyone think it’s possible they will have a top 16 instead of top 12? I know Ryan has said top 12 but I just have to wonder since they say there will be a twist. Doubtful, I know, but just a thought I had.

  • AC

    Hey! I was just thinking.. what if the twist is that they have to sing acapella? That would make sense if the band doesn’t have time for new arrangement and that would be a better idea than singing the same stupid song again. Also, what if they bring back Emily Hughes? I think they need strong girls, and they need more diversity other than r&b/soul music. After David Cook winning, I was thinking there would be more rock!

  • Joanna S.

    Also, what if they bring back Emily Hughes?

    Not gonna happen. She’s on probation for a DUI and is being forced to wear an alcohol monitoring device. No way are TPTB gonna touch that. If they are going to bring back girls who didn’t make the Top 36, they’d be better off bringing back Leneshe Young or Angela Martin.

  • BlankSlate

    Does anyone else hear the theme from JAWS playing right now?
    Duhm duhm duhm dum dum duhm dumb duhm

    I do believe American Idol has officially Jumped the Shark.

    I know the contestants sign away their rights but this all reeks of rules-bending to me… ie, the judges put their favorites into the mix whether they were high vote-getters or not. The explanation is confusing and murky. Intentionally. ;>

  • Grammie Kari

    As much as I love hearing mjà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s and gwenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s confidence about Anoop, I am very nervous about the WC.

    Please don’t be nervous! I believe someone mentioned the difference between Michael’s votes and Anoop’s was .08%. IMO, he was the THIRD highest vote getter. In addition, Anoop’s Troup are gathering new fans every day; TPTB are well aware of his popularity.

    I may be in the minority, but I have no problem with them singing the same song. The contestants can view their performance and figure out what to do to improve. This will show growth in their development and why they belong in the TOP 12..

    The twist may be a TOP 13 with two leaving the first week of competition, but that seems too easy.

    Nigel would have loved seeing Adam perform. There have been too many dull performances thus far.

  • widz

    In addition, Anoopà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Troup are gathering new fans every day; TPTB are well aware of his popularity.

    Yep, he had around 8000 fans on the Facebook group his friends manage when he performed last week, by Thursday night (a day after his elimination) it had 11,000 members and now it has almost 12,000. LMAO.

    Oh, just wondering; is anyone missing Nigel Lythgoe? I kinda miss him :X

    ETA: just read pj’s and sparkles’ posts..I miss Nigel, too! LOL. Who would’ve thought?

    Off-topic for any Anoop fans:
    Someone on IDF saw Anoop at Chapel Hill watching his old a Capella group’s concert..

  • Grammie Kari

    That’s why I feel he will be in the TOP 12 and also appear on the tour. He is a talented young man!

  • PattyH

    Do we actually know that Anoop was 4th last week? All Ryan said was that 20,000 votes separated him and Michael. How do we know that someone else wasn’t just 10,000 short of Michael? I don’t remember Ryan saying he was 4th.

  • butter

    Maybe Ryan didn’t say Anoop was 4th because he was actually 3rd? It’s entirely possible that Alexis was 4th, but was still the highest girl.

  • http://www.myspace.com/gwendolyndiane GwendolynD

    I’m totally going with Dial Idol. Spot on. Anoop was fourth.

  • hcpoirot

    Hmm, I am sure felicia best hope was to get a wild card even if she nailed the song. cause the top girl vote getter week 3 will be Lil Round. ( And I bet Lil will have the pimp spot too)

    With almost no screen time, its imposibble for her to at least had the third higher votes getter unless she pull out a Latoya.

  • carolincarolina

    So the Wildcard Show will be Thursday March 5? Will it be a live show (wondered about that since we won’t be voting and only the judges will make their decisions) ??

    If it is a live show and Anoop makes the Wildcard I expect him to get very emotional as that is the anniversary date of the murder of his friend from UNC (lots of memorial stuff going on in Chapel Hill that day).

  • Lera

    I cannot see how AI can have the wild card contestants sing again because well that would be unfair advantage…LOL One can hear a contestant sing twice whereas other’s only got to sing once. I think they will say so and so goes through because they got the next highest vote. It will be dragged out for an hour like an elimination show.

  • Duke

    I’m gunna BET that the kids will NOT be singing the same song. Not only will that be totally anti-climatic, but the producers are smarter than that because if they were to sing the same song, the judgement (unless the contestant totally bombs) will probably be based on their first performances- not cool. And ratings wouldnt be nearly as good.

    Having said that, anyone think Casey will get a spot? :lol_tb: