Monday Ratings: The Voice Down Vs Last Spring, On Par with Idol

The Voice 6 premiere is down vs last spring’s installment. Also, just for comparison’s sake: American Idol XIII premier held its own at 4.6 and 14.99 viewers (adjusted up to 4.7 and 15.20 viewers).

Via TVByTheNumbers

On NBC, The Voice returned to a 4.7 adults 18-49 rating, down a tenth from last spring’s premiere, which earned a 4.8 adults 18-49 rating.

On ABC, The Bachelor earned a 2.4, up two tenths from last week’s series low 2.2 adults 18-49

8:00PM

NBC The Voice (8-10PM) 4.7 13 15.73
CBS How I Met Your Mother 3.6 11 9.25
ABC The Bachelor (8-10PM) 2.4 7 8.14
FOX Almost Human 1.6 5 5.70
CW Star Crossed 0.3 1 1.12

8:30PM

CBS 2 Broke Girls 2.5 7 7.90

9:00PM

CBS Mike & Molly 2.1 5 8.12
FOX The Following 1.6 4 4.58
CW Beauty And The Beast -R 0.2 0 0.57
9:30PM CBS Mom 1.9 5 7.20

10:00PM

NBC The Blacklist 3.1 9 11.28
ABC Castle 1.7 5 8.74
CBS Intelligence 1.2 3 5.35

Half Hour breakdown via Marc Berman

8:00 p.m.

ABC – The Bachelor
Viewers: 8.25 million (#3), A18-49: 2.3/ 7 (#3)

CBS – How I Met Your Mother
Viewers: 9.25 million (#2), A18-49: 3.6/11 (#1)

NBC – The Voice (spring season premiere)
Viewers: 13.93 million (#1), A18-49: 3.9/11 (#1)

Fox – Almost Human
Viewers: 5.87 million (#4), A18-49: 1.7/ 5 (#4)

CW – Star-Crossed
Viewers: 1.22 million (#5), A18-49: 0.3/ 1 (#5)

———-

8:30 p.m.

ABC – The Bachelor
Viewers: 8.02 million (#2), A18-49: 2.5/ 7 (#2t)

CBS – 2 Broke Girls
Viewers: 7.90 million (#3), A18-49: 2.5/ 7 (#2t)

NBC – The Voice (spring season premiere)
Viewers: 15.68 million (#1), A18-49: 4.6/13 (#1)

Fox – Almost Human
Viewers: 5.52 million (#4), A18-49: 1.5/ 4 (#4)

CW – Star-Crossed
Viewers: 1.03 million (#5), A18-49: 0.3/ 1 (#5)

———-

9:00 p.m.

ABC – The Bachelor
Viewers: 7.98 million (#3), A18-49: 2.5/ 6 (#2)

CBS – Mike & Molly
Viewers: 8.12 million (#2), A18-49: 2.1/ 5 (#3)

NBC – The Voice (spring season premiere)
Viewers: 16.50 million (#1), A18-49: 5.0/13 (#1)

Fox – The Following
Viewers: 4.65 million (#4), A18-49: 1.6/ 4 (#4)

CW – Beauty and the Beast (R)
Viewers: 573,000 (#3), A18-49: 0.2/ 0 (#5)

———-

9:30 p.m.

ABC – The Bachelor
Viewers: 8.32 million (#2), A18-49: 2.5/ 6 (#2)

CBS – Mom
Viewers: 7.20 million (#3), A18-49: 1.9/ 5 (#3)

NBC – The Voice (spring season premiere)
Viewers: 16.82 million (#1), A18-49: 5.2/13 (#1)

Fox – The Following
Viewers: 5.62 million (#4), A18-49: 1.6/ 4 (#4)

CW – Beauty and the Beast (R)
Viewers: 556,000 (#3), A18-49: 0.2/ 0 (#5)

———-

10:00 p.m.

ABC – Castle
Viewers: 8.80 million (#2), A18-49: 1.8/ 5 (#2)

CBS – Intelligence
Viewers: 5.68 million (#3), A18-49: 1.3/ 3 (#3)

NBC – The Blacklist
Viewers: 12.28 million (#1), A18-49: 3.5/ 9 (#1)

———-

10:30 p.m.

ABC – Castle
Viewers: 8.67 million (#2), A18-49: 1.7/ 5 (#2)

CBS – Intelligence
Viewers: 5.01 million (#3), A18-49: 1.1/ 3 (#3)

NBC – The Blacklist
Viewers: 10.28 million (#1), A18-49: 2.8/ 8 (#1)

Source: Nielsen Media Research

  • JTN

    Last night’s premiere was disappointing. So much for The Voice slaughtering Idol, LOL. Where’s everyone predicting a doomsday for The Voice?

  • twodollars

    Let’s wait until the ratings are adjusted before we crow about how American Idol did versus The Voice. Seriously.

  • Call_girl

    wow thats not surprising at all. I will be watching this season of the Voice for Christina Grimmie….LOL

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    If its adjusted up, it’s not going to be by much. And basically, this is as good as it’s going to get for The Voice. The Blinds are the highest rated phase of the show.

    Anyway, The Voice has never “crushed” Idol. It’s done a bit better, which in itself–that the ratings would be higher, even by a little bit–was considered a big deal.

  • bridgette12

    Because The Voice has Adam, Shakira, Blake and Usher, which automatically make it better than the borefest of JLo, Keith and Harry.

  • bridgette12

    Good ratings, can’t wait to see tonight’s show.

  • bridgette12

    But that other show is boring and the audience and the media are enjoying The Voice. Great judges, talented contestants and a show that has some excitement is a winning combo.

  • girlygirl

    On the one hand The Voice won its time slot, and its ratings were probably way better than whatever show NBC had in that time slot prior to the Olympics. So NBC is probably relatively happy looking at these numbers.

    On the other hand, this shows — again — that The Voice is not some ratings juggernaut that crushes Idol, as the show’s p.r. and some media like to claim. The shows are basically on par when it comes to the ratings.

  • jan

    Once again – boring is in this case an opinion. You find JLo, Keith, and Harry boring – I don’t. Incidentally, in this case, most of the TV critics agree with me.

  • ptebwwong

    I like both shows. But the problem with what you posted is these shows are supposed to be about the contestants & finding good talent. Even if the judges and show are entertaining, it doesn’t matter if there’s not talent there.

  • bridgette12

    those sinking ratings are making a bigger statement than a few tv critics.

  • Birdiex

    Great judges, talented contestants and a show that has some excitement is a winning combo.

    That sounds like Idol too.

  • Stooch

    Basically the day of singing show dominance is gone, the best any of these show’s can do is probably a 5.0 in demo. The retention of the demo over the course of the year is what will be telling about how people view the shows

  • bridgette12

    Both shows has talent, but the problem is song selection and old themes has doomed one of these shows.

  • bridgette12

    Maybe Idol from several years ago.

  • TheMooncircus .

    At the end both Idol and The Voice will pretty much get the same ratings, staying at mid 3´s on good nights going into 2´s on bad nights. Not only we have Idol on our tv for 13 years, but now we have the voice twice a year plus we had the damm X Factor the last couple years, so its all going down. The only thing is that since Idol was the number 1 show at TV, people will claim that only Idol is going down, while for The Voice any ratings above the 2´s is allright, its all good, its better than most of NBC´s shows. Double standards, but at the end, neither really wins on the ratings battle for the most watched tv show.

  • Birdiex

    Even though the premiere ratings were the same as The Voice?

  • Birdiex

    Or this year. Critics have loved JLo, Keith, and Harry. Especially Harry.

  • Amy Beth

    The Voice isn’t going to crush Idol. It’s winning the “buzz” war by a landslide though.

    At this point, if the Voice maintains demo ratings in the 3s, it will win the season.

  • TheMooncircus .

    Its not gonna be easy (apart from mondays were they usually dont have enough competition). Specially once the knock out rounds/live shows starts.

  • Birdiex

    Even though most of the semi finalists performed contemporary and new songs?

  • abbysee

    Funny how it’s all about the number until the numbers don’t jibe, then It’s about buzz. Buzz doesn’t make the sponsors happy.

  • iani

    nvm

  • jan

    What will be really interesting is tonight. It is going against NCIS, the Bachelor Finale, and Glee.

  • Mason

    Yay can’t wait for them to crown another talented R&B dude like Jermaine Paul or country girl!

  • ptebwwong

    Both shows do have talent. I’m just saying that even if TV has a entertaining panel (which they do) there has to be interesting contestants, buzz & good performances that people care to watch any of these talent shows. If the talent, performances, & buzz is not there IMO the ratings will eventually decline for any talent show.

  • jpfan2

    I sure hope Idol gets back the missing 5-6 million viewers it lost during Olympics week. I think The Voice will edge Idol out as the #1 singing show but I also don’t think The Voice will be around for 13 years. At a certain point, the bromance/rivalry between coaches for talent is going to get old.

  • jan

    THIS!! It isn’t the judges – it isn’t the contestants – it is the twilight of the singing shows.

  • czt

    Comparing Idol and Voice are like comparing Apples and Oranges. Idol is about finding a diamond in the rough and trying to make that singer a star. The Voice is all about the judges and not the contestants. On Idol, I love watching the transformation of raw talent into confident performers. Obviously most seasons don’t produces a “star”, but each season does introduce new performers and provides many of them the chance to make a good living from singing. I’ve watched The Voice a few times and have enjoyed the interaction of the judges. We don’t compare sitcoms, reality shows or dramas, so why the constant comparison of Idol and the Voice?

  • Birdiex

    I personally haven’t seen much online buzz for the Voice this year. Actually, more people on my timeline on twitter talked about Idol compared to The Voice.

  • bridgette12

    At least there is some variance from WGWG.

  • bridgette12

    If it get’s old and stale, The Voice will fall just like Idol has.

  • MrTemecula

    In 2013, The Voice’s finale beat Idol’s finale 4.4 to 3.6 in the demo ratings. That’s a little over 18%. That’s a beating.

    This year, it will probably be the same. Idol is just stale. There is so much more energy on the Voice during the audition stage as compared to Idol’s auditions. It’s about the same when both shows hit the live rounds except the Voice has a smidge better production value. The Voice, however, carries a larger audience than Idol from the auditions to the finale.

  • bridgette12

    Idol hasn’t had buzz in years.

  • http://anibundel.wordpress.com/ anibundel

    So The Voice has settled into twilight years Idol-like numbers without ever having the crushing ratings dominance that idol enjoyed in it’s heyday.

    Also–The Voice is NBC’s one dependable hit–and it’s only making twilight Idol like numbers. Says a lot right there.

  • jpfan2

    I prefer Idol to the Voice but it’s perfectly possible to like both shows. The Voice’s success doesn’t mean Idol has to fail (and vice versa.) Idol is a dinosaur compared to The Voice but that doesn’t mean it’s 100% dead. ;0

  • Birdiex

    Not true, but w/e.

  • bridgette12

    As far I see when it comes to the Voice, they have a entertaining panel, good contestants and a buzz, so it’s doing good.

  • Birdiex

    So does Idol.

  • Amy Beth

    It’s not the Bachelor Finale. There are still 3 girls left. (Please shoot me for knowing this.)

  • Stooch

    Well I think the judges and contestants can be the difference between 2’s and 3’s in the demo. Both shows should be close in ratings there’s a finite number of casual viewers who care about singing shows anymore

  • jpfan2

    The audience watching Idol is enjoying it. Otherwise they’ll tune out. Ditto for The Voice. I’ll bet the two audiences overlap a lot. People who are into one are probably into the other.

  • Mason

    Yay no chance for WGWG to win the Voice! Only R&B dudes need apply!

  • bridgette12

    If you believe that and there are millions like you that do, then Idol won’t have any problems.

  • ptebwwong

    They have an entertaining panel. We don’t know yet about good contestants since it’s only had one show. Also, while it has buzz I’ve noticed it had less buzz coming into this season than previous seasons. IMO that’s partially due to the Olympics.

  • Birdiex

    Me too, I have actually seen more buzz for Idol this season, even though neither have had that much.

  • Amy Beth

    I meant media buzz.

  • bridgette12

    I would take a show with some buzz over a show that’s on it’s last leg with no buzz.

  • Birdiex

    Even with media buzz I haven’t seen much. Neither have had that much buzz this season, but I have seen more for idol and the Voice isn’t winning it by a “landslide.”

  • jpfan2

    IThe show is in its 13th year and opened with ratings similiar to The Voice. Idol had some glory years and I don’t think the fact that it’s in a ratings decline means its “failed.”

  • Amy Beth

    This was discussed on a prior thread. Types of shows go in and out of style, and it’s better for them all when they all do well.

  • perfectstorm

    That variance has not lead to any kind of commercial success.

  • shell29

    Yep.

  • Amy Beth

    FALL not FAIL

  • Birdiex

    So idol is on its last leg and The Voice isn’t, even though their premiere ratings were about the same? Does not compute.

  • bridgette12

    Not too worried about their commercial success because I watch the show to be entertained, what they do afterwards is not my problem.

  • Marko

    The Voice has no ambition to be nothing more than a game show and blatant promotion platform for the “coaches”. Therefore I don’t think it can ever evolve into a better show.
    Idol, in theory, has much better concept. Their problem is the execution.

  • Ronnie D

    I watched the voice off and on for a while now but never really got into it as much as I do Idol. One thing that really made me laugh was when I read that the judges, I believe, were going to sing each others songs. If that’s not being all about the judges then I don’t know what is. I never understood the draw to this show, and am surprised it has lasted this long. Maybe they will start the revolving judges thing like Idol did. We see where that got them. lol

  • ptebwwong

    That’s true. But what does it say when a show with all those 3 things has similar ratings than a show that’s in it’s 13th season? I just think that people don’t care to watch talent shows as much as previously despite how good a show is. IMO the talent show genre is too over-saturated that the public has started to not care.

  • Birdiex

    Its also worth noting that its down from the Season 5 premiere ratings of 5.1.

  • bridgette12

    FALL, it will fall if it get’s old and stale.

  • jpfan2

    Got you! Fall and fail are kind of similiar though.
    Falling ratings=failure to get on the air.

  • perfectstorm

    what they do afterwards is not my problem.

    That’s probably the general consensus of most Voice viewers.
    While Cook, Allen, McCreery, Phillips have all sold Platinum.

  • Buba

    I think the “two seasons a year” thing ended hurting The Voice. I mean, it feels like Tessanne won yesterday. Give us some time to breath, otherwise the show gets tiring.

  • iani

    nvm

  • jpfan2

    I think Glee won’t factor much. The show’s glory days are way, way over.

  • Mason

    Isn’t it more entertaining to watch a real sitcom than the stale bromance of Adam Levine and Blake Shelton?

  • bridgette12

    Like I said, what they do afterwards is not my problem, whether it’s Idol or The Voice. I just want to be entertained.

  • jan

    Yes, I think 2 seasons a year will lead to a more rapid decline. Then again – maybe NBC was just taking advantage of the idea that singing shows are still semi-hot – knowing that a decline was inevitable eventually any way.

  • bridgette12

    If I have a choice between a stale bromance and a stale show, I’ll take the bromance.

  • carola99

    I think The Voice ratings will definitely be more steady than Idol.
    Idol is in the 2´s now and The Voice will never get so low..

    Overall IMO The Voice is a much better show and the chemistry between the judges is way more entertaining and fun than on Idol. People enjoy that.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    This year, it will probably be the same.

    Last year is NOT a good comparison. The Voice finished up in THE SUMMER when there was virtually no competition.

    Also, The Voice December finale numbers were not all that. They only scored a 4.0

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    Reminder:

    When a commenter reiterates the same extremely negative point over and over again in a thread? It borders on trolling. Please calm down.

  • Birdiex

    The Voice is more stale than Idol this year. Its just the same ol’ same ol. At least idol is changing some things this year(although Rush week was a fail).

  • Birdiex

    Idol didn’t get into the 2’s until the Olympics, lets see what happens in the next few weeks. To me the Voice feels like a cheaper version of Idol. Its hard to explain.

  • bridgette12

    I think Voice fans enjoy the fact that it’s a competition, but the show feels relaxed and free flowing, not tense and over manipulated.

  • Birdiex

    And its already fell.

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    Yay can’t wait for them to crown another talented R&B dude like Jermaine Paul or country girl!

    I know Tesanne Chin’s not an R&B dude, unless I missed an announcement that henceforth she will be known as Terence Chin. Is she country?

    Honestly, due to the two-season-a-year thing, I keep forgetting Chin even happened. I remember more about XFUSA and The Sing-Off from this past fall.

  • bridgette12

    Then Idol and the Voice have another thing in common.

  • bridgette12

    Then I will watch stale Voice, you will watch stale Idol and some people will watch both stale shows.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    Those are your words, not mine. Please don’t assume my motives.

  • elliegrll

    It’s a game show, and people accept that. There’s really no reason why they should try to change. When they stray from the game show format, the ratings fall.

  • Mason

    Oh okay. Didn’t know that people watch a singing contest show for a stale bromance

  • Marko

    That’s my biggest problem with The Voice. I can’t remember any of the contestants, even the most talented ones.

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    That variance has not lead to any kind of commercial success.

    To be fair, the record on commercial success is a lot more positive than it was after Voice S2. Cassadee Pope’s lead single peaked at #10 on country radio and is gold, with platinum within reach. Danielle Bradbery’s lead single looks to peak at #12.

    This isn’t success on the scope we used to see with Idol, but it’s not the plummet into obscurity that we saw with Javier Colon or Jermaine Paul (or XFUSA winners Melanie Amaro and Tate Stevens). Newbie female country artists would love to get that much radio play.

  • carola99

    Exactly..

  • Roimeister

    both shows, and all shows on TV, are about entertaining an audience enough to retain them or grow in numbers… contestants and talent and making stars is a very distant second

  • Birdiex

    The Battle Rounds and Knockout Rounds aren’t “tense” and “manipulated?”

  • perfectstorm

    Idol has been on 13 seasons. The Voice 6. The Voice is not attracting the kind of big numbers of Seasons 1- 6 of Idol.

  • Birdiex

    What makes The Voice so much more entertaining than Idol?

  • Marko

    Yes, and I find it entertaining. But that’s why there’s no comparison between two shows
    IMO.

  • Amy Beth

    That’s a tall order. When people get out of the habit of doing something, it’s really hard to go back.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    That’s actually worse. Again, please don’t assume motives or lecture commenters.

  • bridgette12

    Plus it’s fun and it has a younger vibe to it. What I also like about it is that you see right away if the audience are liking their performances by buying their download on itunes. That’s something Idol should think about doing. It creates a little competition among the contestants, the judges and the fans.

  • Birdiex

    It creates a little competition among the contestants, the judges

    Competition between the judges is why I can never get into the show.

  • bridgette12

    For some reason, I’m not upset about that, because Idol and The Voice ratings are the problem of the show, I just watch to be entertained.

  • perfectstorm

    The Voice has made it about The Adam Show. The Blake Show. Both of them have more success from appearing on The Voice than any contestant from the show.

  • bridgette12

    That’s easy to answer, The Voice feels fast paced, a younger vibe, more contemporary songs, great chemistry among the judges and I love their stage and how close they can get to the audience.

  • Birdiex

    I keep forgetting about Tessanne.

  • bridgette12

    I’m not too worried about it, I think Adam and Blake play a big part in this show, the same way Simon use to on Idol.

  • Birdiex

    The Voice feels fast paced

    So does idol.

    a younger vibe, more contemporary songs,

    Most of the songs this year on Idol have been contemporary.

    great chemistry among the judges

    So does idol this year. And it doesn’t feel forced like the Voice.

    I love their stage and how close they can get to the audience.

    Cool

  • bridgette12

    I appreciate the competition because it helps drive the competition among the contestants.

  • Marko

    Lol

  • PinkClouds20

    I only watch The Voice when there’s nothing else better on. Too much emphasis on the coaches and not enough on the contestants. Feels too much like a game show, therefore, not a serious competition. As long as the The Bachelor is on, will not be watching The Voice.

  • Jordana33

    Also, because the coaches are driven to have the best team possible, they don’t waste any spaces on fodder or joke contestants

  • Roimeister

    with some, you can’t like both… you have to choose… for me, they could be on at the same time and I’d still watch both

  • shell29

    Plus they don’t care that much if they ever produce a huge star-as long as they’re getting decent ratings they’re happy. It’s a TV show first and foremost. Speaking for myself, I don’t care whether the Voice ever produces a superstar or that Idol has launched several successful careers-the day either show ceases to entertain me as a viewer, I’m done.

  • perfectstorm

    But the focus of the show should be about the contestants first, not the judges. Even with Simon, Idol still produced very successful contestants.

  • bridgette12

    I have to disagree on one point, there has been some fodder that’s been let through, but overall the fodder hasn’t been the joke/crazy kind

  • Birdiex

    I think when people think of The Voice, they think of Adam and Blake. When they think of Idol, they think of Carrie Underwood, Chris Daughtry, or Kelly Clarkson.

  • Marko

    The Voice: “Our celebrity judges will entertain you while some people are singing in the background”.
    Idol: “We will tell you who will be the next superstar and you will vote for him/her”.

  • Roimeister

    pretty funny on both counts

  • Sassycatz

    Or you will not vote for him/her in order to stick it to “the man!” ;-)

  • Jordana33

    Eh,.. practically every show is down in ratings compared to prior years…and that trend will continue. I love the quality of the contestants on the Voice, and I like the fact that the contestants are treated like respected artists. Also, the camaraderie of the judges doesn’t get old for me. But obviously taste differs. Everyone said that the show would suffer by happening twice a year, but relatively speaking, it hasn’t suffered that much. I also thought I’d get tired of seeing it this often but I haven’t, so as long as it’s around, I’ll keep watching.

    Even with slightly lowever ratings, I think The Voice has been a huge asset to NBC,especially when you look at the positive impact it has also had on shows that get aired after it. So, even though there might be some viewer fatigue, I think that NBC and a number of its shows continue to benefit tremendously from it. The Blacklist, Revolutions and Chicago Fire were all significantly helped at some point, I don’t see why people who don’t watch the show enjoy dumping on it, just because its ratings drop by a tenth. For those of us who really enjoy it, I think it would actually suck if it failed!

  • Guest

    So true about The Voice while they show the hand of the coaches to hit or not to hit or their facial expressions or whatever… all while someone is singing in the background.

  • Birdiex

    I like the fact that the contestants are treated like respected artists.

    Until the coaches get a hold of them and turn them into something they aren’t. Christina ruined Matthew last year and then Blake turned Cassadee into something she’s not.

  • taylor

    So, The Voice won its timeslot and once adjusted up, it will match its premiere last spring. Good, steady ratings for a singing show that runs two seasons at viewers every year! This show also has the buzz going for it. Every radio morning show I changed to this a.m. was talking about it.

  • elliegrll

    The Voice will never get so low

    I wouldn’t say never. The lowest ratings for the fall season were around 3.0. It’s normal for this show to drop 2 points as the season progresses, so while it’s unlikely that it will reach into the low 2s, a 2.6-2.9 isn’t out of the question.

  • Sassycatz

    I think the fact that The Voice is much more like a game show between regular star panelists than a true talent search helps it to sustain itself despite having two seasons a year. You can’t rely on always having good contestants, so it’s all on the “team leaders/judges” and their star appeal.

    For Idol, the contestants are so much more important. They are the main entertainers — not the judges — and so if the right mix is not there and there isn’t a few stand-outs that grab the audience to the end, people have nothing else to focus on. That’s actually why I like the show because we are truly finding out if any of these amateur contestants can carry a show and, perhaps, sustain a career. It’s on them. Not on Harry, JLo, or Keith to sing songs and compete with each other.

  • Jordana33

    The coaches have to convince the contestants to work with them and they also end up spending a lot of time with the contestants, which ends up breaking down the barriers between coach and contestant. This is why so many artists see it as prestigious to be on the show. To be in a situation where a famous artist takes you under their wing, is a big deal to these contestants. I get a very positive vibe from contestants interviewed after being on the Voice (even if they don’t make the lives) and they always gush about how well they are treated by everyone. They seem genuine to me. I’ve just never picked up that vibe from other shows. So despite the fact that they haven’t made a star, I do think that a lot of these contestants benefit a lot from the exposure. I definitely think Idol has it’s advantages, but I’m just saying that these are the things I like about The Voice.

  • Jordana33

    I’ve always felt that the contestants were very important on the Voice too. They drive the show just as much as the judges, IMO.

  • Birdiex

    The lowest it got last year was a 2.5.

  • Sassycatz

    If they were as important, I think they would’ve done better once off the show. The fact that many of them have something of a career already tells you that something is missing and that may be the star power to carry a career to the next level.

  • Marko

    If you ask me to name past winners my answer will be: Adam Levine in seasons 1, 5 and Blake Shelton in seasons 2, 3, 4.

  • shell29

    I initially thought that The Voice would flame out a while back (especially when they decided to air the show twice a year). I thought the novelty of the ‘blind auditions’ would wear off. Doesn’t seem like that’s happening so far. Even though the ratings for the opening night are down vs. last season it’s still a pretty decent number. I’m not sure that they’ll manage to last as long as Idol but I don’t think The Voice is going anywhere anytime soon.

    Idol was for much of its existence THE singing competition show; up until recently they’ve never had any real threats to knock it off it’s throne. The Voice is the new kid trying to knock Idol off it’s perch. Obviously it will be difficult for TV to match Idol’s accomplishments for that reason. Even if The Voice never matches the longevity of Idol I think they’d still be pleased. They’ve already lasted longer than many people may have thought.

  • Birdiex

    It will be interesting to see what happens when the live shows start- that is when the ratings usually go crashing down.

  • Marko

    “Treated like respected artists”, in the words of infamous Simon Cowell “patronizing”.

  • Stooch

    “Blake turned Cassadee into something she’s not”

    What an artist with a Platinum single, how dare he! lol

  • Birdiex

    Its not platinum yet.

  • http://www.holyhomo.com/ Rand

    And lack of solid winners will be the doom for the other.

  • Stooch

    ha ha that’s you comeback it’s like 20 K away and selling over a 1K a day

  • Jordana33

    I see it differently. It’s not just about how the winner gets treated after the show it’s also about how the non-winners get treated. I think a lot of serious musical artists see the Voice as a better format to advance their career, and I can see why. I think success comes in many ways. But we’ll agree to disagree! I have a lot of issues with Idol’s system of manufacturing stars afterwards. But that’s just me.

  • elliegrll

    I didn’t count that, because that episode aired on a Thursday, outside of the show’s normal night.

  • Lexie O’Neill

    And the funny thing is, that’s what the judges say too…when “I” won last year. I’ve even heard radio dj’s talk about Blake’s wins. Strange.

  • elliegrll

    I don’t think that viewers see it as a competition, unless it’s the game show competition between the mentors. That’s why viewers don’t become overly invested in the contestants, like we see with AI.

  • elliegrll

    The two shows have two very different purposes and tones, and when they have tried to copy one another the ratings have fallen, for example AI cutting ten people during last week’s semi final round without having them compete, or the latter rounds of The Voice. That’s one of the reasons why it’s a horrible idea for AI to release Itunes rankings, or even the voting tallies like they did during the first week of voting last year.

  • Birdiex

    I have a lot of issues with Idol’s system of manufacturing stars afterwards.

    At least they have stars.

  • elliegrll

    If that were the case the Voice alums would sell more singles during the week that the show ends.

  • Marko

    I’ve seen some very talented contestants on The Voice being treated just like a props. On the other hand Idol uses random cruelty.

  • bridgette12

    I see it as a competition on The Voice, but the most important thing, I’m not bored and it’s fun to watch. As for Idol, it’s dead and the time when viewers were invested in this show, is in the past.

  • Birdiex

    I am more bored watching judges compete compared to watching contestants compete.

    And since Idol is dead, does that mean The Voice is dead too? Their premiere ratings were onpar with each other.

    I think viewers are just as invested in idol as they are in the Voice. Although on The Voice, more people are invested in the judges as opposed to the contestants like on Idol.

  • deshae78

    Two seasons a year?? I don’t watch it, but seriously I thought it was coming on more than that! It’s way too much. It’s ALWAYS on. I don’t like The Voice & I wish it would go away. Just my opinion.

  • isitoveryet

    Just on viewership you wouldn’t think they would cancel the show.. but it all depends on production costs. Same with Idol. IDK the numbers, its just something to consider in the big equation.

  • ptebwwong

    While entertainment obviously is an important factor, so is the talent and level of interest. I doubt Idol would’ve lasted 13 seasons if the talent was a small factor. IMO if no contestants was successful in the history of the show there’s no way the show would’ve survived just on entertainment as the main factor to watch.

  • bridgette12

    It helps to have some contestants that catch the audience attention and make you look forward to their next performance.

  • Trent

    False comparison…almost nothing on network TV in 2014 approaches the big ratings of ten years ago. Especially reality and competition shows. “New Girl,” which I still hear people calling a “hit,” pulled 2.9 million viewers and a 1.3 in the demo in its last outing. It’s a very different TV landscape now, and The Voice is doing just fine.

  • Roimeister

    One might argue that AI hasn’t had a “star” since Carrie, so it’s lasted quite a while since then… because it’s entertaining, IMO

  • PinkClouds20

    For me, the problem with Idol is audience manipulation. The sad back stories gets old after a while. The obvious manipulation to get a female winner last year didn’t help the show.

  • september21

    I see the dead horse is reborn in the AI vs Voice boxing match. Has there been a comparison of Cee LO and Xtina vs Usher and Shakira? More, less, or equal for viewership? Anyone know????

  • Roimeister

    you already know the answer… either that or welcome to any old singing competition reality show forum…

  • buffyloverlori43

    I only watch it once in awhile as well. Usually for the turn around rounds, than I usually get really bored. The last one was the longest I watched. I got to around top 6 and than I quit watching it.

  • DragonFly

    Lots I’m against re Idol’s production/results & I haven’t invested in the show (like many others it seems) in the last cple yrs.
    THIS statement “It helps to have some contestants that catch the audience attention and make you look forward to their next performance.” is not one fairly thrown at Idol for many seasons prior. There were some seasons where you could not wait for next performances from some the next week–AMEN!. Idol found good people many times.
    The judge panel for Idol this yr. is as fine a panel as any imo—there’s no such thing as perfect responses to please everyone. They needed to get back to level-heads on this show. Talent & good contestants are essential–has Idol done it this yr? Not sure. At friends house that tuned in the first 2 audition shows, I gave a listen & found no one I could agree w/the judges passing to Hollywood. THAT was painful.

  • imozone

    I was having this debate with a co-worker. I referred to the Voice as Survivor (Recording Artist Edition), because I felt the Voice was more about which Star Judge had the last team member standing. I also asked him who won the last two years and was willing to bet he said Adam and Blake.
    I like both shows and do enjoy the 4-chair turnaround auditions of The Voice, but Idol is my choice overall.

  • ptebwwong

    The thing is many of these winners did great “right out of the gate.” You never know what happens after the debut album. I remember people thinking during the successes of their debut album that Jordin, David Cook, etc. were “stars.”

  • LeoCS

    The same arguments over the last 3 years are being repeated and the only thing I know is that The Voice is the only show that’s keeping its ratings steady.

  • Damien Roberts

    I’m just over people comparing the two as if Idol isn’t doing well…its doing fine.

  • Birdiex

    There was NO adjustment for The Voice. The Bachelor was adjusted up a tenth.

    http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/02/25/monday-final-tv-ratings-the-bachelor-adjusted-up-no-adjustment-for-almost-human-or-star-crossed/239884/

    So the shining show tied with a 13 year old “dinosaur” lol.

  • Birdiex

    So, The Voice won its timeslot and once adjusted up, it will match its premiere last spring.

    There was no adjustment, so it matched Idol.

  • Montavilla

    One might also argue that it’s had four or five since then. But I agree that the show is entertaining. It’s got a nice mix (IMO) of story to performance quality. Even without the backstory, I feel that the contestants go through a storyline each year, which is pleasing to watch.

    And, yes, it’s manipulative. Sometimes the manipulation is heavy-handed, but there’s manipulation on every show, including The Voice.

  • Mason

    Oh I forgot about the Jamaican idol. Is she still up on her feet career wise or Tumbling Down?

  • bridgette12

    Idol is not doing fine, it’s on life support.

  • Birdiex

    Then based on the ratings, the Voice is too.

  • bridgette12

    The Voice should be around for several more years.

  • JTN

    I just saw that. I thought it’d be adjusted up. Looks like old Grandpa Idol can still pull in as many people as the new hot show, The Voice.

  • JTN

    The minute Blake or Adam decide they’ve had enough of having to attend The Voice tapings every waking hour of their day and jump ship, The Voice will be dead.

  • Birdiex

    Then idol should be.

  • bridgette12

    You do know that these judges don’t spend every minute of their day on the Voice. It’s tv show, it’s not a sweat shop.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    It usually adjusts up. I was fully expecting it to. Interesting.

  • JTN

    It’s odd that there haven’t been many adjustments for Idol this year, either. I’m ecstatic that The Voice stayed the same, though. Love that Idol held its own this year.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    The Idol premiere adjusted up 1/10. Basically, The Idol and Voice premieres tied, with Voice having slightly more viewers.

  • Tom22

    I like your Game show analogy Jordana . I do think that all of these shows could be looked at that way . I know many of the contestants really would love to be star musicians but there are so few seats at that table that if even one or two performers had success each year across all of the shows it would be pretty impressive. Even Mega Stars don’t have much of a guarantee that the public will make their new albums a success.. Marriah can have her songs get a full press promotion and while that might make them chart initially it’s not going to keep them there without the public taking a fancy to them.

  • Tom22

    haha marko… I can’t entirely disagree with you except to say that….like Jordana’s suggestion, they’re not quite props but game show contestants. They’re treated well in that regard…. I wouldn’t expect much more if I were on the price is right or something. Any performer should be happy to get some air time. … and they get that on both shows. Ironically the cruelty and the ability to cope with cruelty and a meat grinder schedule and Machiavellian interview clips , and a focus on personality probably does a better job at selecting the traits necessary for commercial success than a show focused far more on the music alone.

  • Tom22

    It is a variety show. I don’t consider any of the shows musical competitions. They are exhibitions of amateur talent over the lenghth of a seriies of shows with a bunch of elements to them where the amateurs who the auidence likes a little more get to perform a few more weeks. All good fun and a chance for viewers to enjoy hearing people sing and bands play etc.

  • september21

    I mean number wise – has there been a comparison to the 4 judge panel differences. lol.
    I know the horses get good and dead on here! :)

  • Damien Roberts

    Did you not just read the article? The Voice did just as well as Idols premiere…and Idol is still Fox’s number one show. It drives me crazy that people can be this naive.

  • babyspock

    Last spring the ratings for Idol’s premiere were 25% higher than TV’s, but in the end it got beat in the ratings. Idol’s ratings this season have fallen even faster than it did last season.

  • Birdiex

    Only because The Voice didn’t count half of their seasons ratings, due to airing in the summer. This year it premiered a month earlier, so we will see what will happen. It depends on how much each of them fall over the season. Last years ratings drops were a disaster.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    The lowest ratings of The Voice season didn’t count, because it aired in the summer. Their numbers were artificially inflated.

    This season will end within May sweeps. I expect their average will be lower than last spring. Although, they could still beat Idol.

  • R de Leon

    American idol fails because of quality and (lowest common denominator) format. Not just the quality of the singers but that of the judges. In the current season, all three are talented but Harry C is the only one who’s not intellectually challenged. On the Voice, even the judges’ rivalry is witty and amusing and appears to be based on mutual respect. I tuned in to AI13 last night and couldn’t bear to watch after three songs. I turned it off and, while it remains in this format, will never be tempted to watch it again.