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		<title>By: girlygirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>girlygirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s from the same moderator who had to lecture some of the posters about the nastiness that was going on in the Kradam forum on the AO site. It&#039;s an official moderator...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s from the same moderator who had to lecture some of the posters about the nastiness that was going on in the Kradam forum on the AO site. It&#8217;s an official moderator&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: FolkFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>FolkFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, there was so much to comment on, and then that post from AO.com came up.

Actually, here&#039;s what&#039;s interesting about the rmged profile:  its creation date?  5/14/2009---which was before AO.com officially came on line.  That&#039;s an official profile---all of the DCO profiles that are that early are official.  I firmly believe that an RCA moderator put up that post.  Whether TPTB at RCA would be happy about everything in that post?  Is another question.  I can&#039;t imagine that the suits want that postscript out there, accurate as it may be.

When I was looking for that RCA post, I also noted that the front page refers to the WWFM as his new single.  Looks like the hypothesizing earlier in the thread may be right?  I guess we&#039;ll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, there was so much to comment on, and then that post from AO.com came up.</p>
<p>Actually, here&#8217;s what&#8217;s interesting about the rmged profile:  its creation date?  5/14/2009&#8212;which was before AO.com officially came on line.  That&#8217;s an official profile&#8212;all of the DCO profiles that are that early are official.  I firmly believe that an RCA moderator put up that post.  Whether TPTB at RCA would be happy about everything in that post?  Is another question.  I can&#8217;t imagine that the suits want that postscript out there, accurate as it may be.</p>
<p>When I was looking for that RCA post, I also noted that the front page refers to the WWFM as his new single.  Looks like the hypothesizing earlier in the thread may be right?  I guess we&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: leome</title>
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		<dc:creator>leome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a real moderator, so yeah, it&#039;s RCA. Unless the account was hacked.

 I think the PS surprises me more than the first part (although, really?! after 8 years you still don&#039;t know better?)
I do remember a mod on Daughtry&#039;s site also pointing the finger to 19 when they released No Surprise, but in this case I don&#039;t even understand what they&#039;re talking about. lol why didn&#039;t they have the single when they wanted? Which apparently would have been a month ago?
Anyway, it just doesn&#039;t sound good. The guy sounds upset. lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a real moderator, so yeah, it&#8217;s RCA. Unless the account was hacked.</p>
<p> I think the PS surprises me more than the first part (although, really?! after 8 years you still don&#8217;t know better?)<br />
I do remember a mod on Daughtry&#8217;s site also pointing the finger to 19 when they released No Surprise, but in this case I don&#8217;t even understand what they&#8217;re talking about. lol why didn&#8217;t they have the single when they wanted? Which apparently would have been a month ago?<br />
Anyway, it just doesn&#8217;t sound good. The guy sounds upset. lol</p>
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		<title>By: alaadam</title>
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		<dc:creator>alaadam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The profile says a fan with 8 posts.</description>
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		<title>By: jun</title>
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		<dc:creator>jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;ETA: someone said it was posted by RCA in the forum at AO. So I kind of doubt it&#039;s really RCA.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oops.. I posted this too quickly.. I couldn&#039;t find it anywhere checking on adamofficial, so not sure which official forum the poster got it from.. I emailed the adamofficial moderator to verify this, and will let you know if I hear back.

&quot;They&#039;re discussing the RCA posting about song requests/spamming on the headline thread too. Here is the link that was posted.

http://www.adamofficial.com/ca/node/938506&quot;

Okay confused  now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>ETA: someone said it was posted by RCA in the forum at AO. So I kind of doubt it&#8217;s really RCA.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oops.. I posted this too quickly.. I couldn&#8217;t find it anywhere checking on adamofficial, so not sure which official forum the poster got it from.. I emailed the adamofficial moderator to verify this, and will let you know if I hear back.</p>
<p>&#8220;They&#8217;re discussing the RCA posting about song requests/spamming on the headline thread too. Here is the link that was posted.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.adamofficial.com/ca/node/938506" rel="nofollow">http://www.adamofficial.com/ca/node/938506</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay confused  now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wordnerdarchie</title>
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		<dc:creator>wordnerdarchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re discussing the RCA posting about song requests/spamming on the headline thread too.  Here is the link that was posted.

http://www.adamofficial.com/ca/node/938506</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re discussing the RCA posting about song requests/spamming on the headline thread too.  Here is the link that was posted.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.adamofficial.com/ca/node/938506" rel="nofollow">http://www.adamofficial.com/ca/node/938506</a></p>
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		<title>By: erinnthered</title>
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		<dc:creator>erinnthered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;there is no way in h-ll that RCA&#039;s counsel would allow them to post something like that on a fan site. I guarantee this is a fake.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Who cares where it came from? It&#039;s good advice. Only call locally. If you really care more about the artist, instead of &quot;winning&quot; you will help him more that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>there is no way in h-ll that RCA&#8217;s counsel would allow them to post something like that on a fan site. I guarantee this is a fake.</p></blockquote>
<p>Who cares where it came from? It&#8217;s good advice. Only call locally. If you really care more about the artist, instead of &#8220;winning&#8221; you will help him more that way.</p>
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		<title>By: lydia</title>
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		<dc:creator>lydia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not being an overly-invested fan of any of the AI8 contestants, I am finding this album roll out of the new idols fascinating in a train wreck kind of way.  Kris seems to be getting a &quot;normal&quot; introduction, Allison (my fave) is getting no promotion that I can see and I&#039;m getting the sense that 19/RCA has completely f##ked up with Adam.

All in all, I think DC had good promotion and a successful debut album cycle--though like many fans, I can&#039;t help thinking what might have happened with better selection of singles.  Cook is still overall in a pretty good position career wise, despite all the early anxiety.  It will be very interesting to see what happens to this crop of Idols.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not being an overly-invested fan of any of the AI8 contestants, I am finding this album roll out of the new idols fascinating in a train wreck kind of way.  Kris seems to be getting a &#8220;normal&#8221; introduction, Allison (my fave) is getting no promotion that I can see and I&#8217;m getting the sense that 19/RCA has completely f##ked up with Adam.</p>
<p>All in all, I think DC had good promotion and a successful debut album cycle&#8211;though like many fans, I can&#8217;t help thinking what might have happened with better selection of singles.  Cook is still overall in a pretty good position career wise, despite all the early anxiety.  It will be very interesting to see what happens to this crop of Idols.</p>
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		<title>By: mama2dasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>mama2dasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the mediabase song analysis, it seems that although FYE hasn&#039;t been added by a lot of stations, a larger percentage of the ones that have added it are actually playing it. There are a lot of check marks under &quot;played today&quot; Baby steps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the mediabase song analysis, it seems that although FYE hasn&#8217;t been added by a lot of stations, a larger percentage of the ones that have added it are actually playing it. There are a lot of check marks under &#8220;played today&#8221; Baby steps?</p>
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		<title>By: girlygirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>girlygirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this has already been mentioned? On Adam&#039;s official site you can buy WWFM for $1.29 and it reads &quot;Download Adam&#039;s NEW SINGLE Whataya Want from Me&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this has already been mentioned? On Adam&#8217;s official site you can buy WWFM for $1.29 and it reads &#8220;Download Adam&#8217;s NEW SINGLE Whataya Want from Me&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: lucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No. I don&#039;t think that&#039;s it. I think the issue is more that many of larger urban Top 40 stations with greater audience impressions are more about rhythmic/hip-hop and don&#039;t play new artists of the Brittney/Lady Gaga elk until they&#039;ve already hit the Top40. It&#039;s up to the smaller stations combined with a few of the larger ones along with audience call-ins because they heard and liked it on their HAC station to get them playing it. Once they&#039;ve embraced an artist, it won&#039;t be as hard to get spins but the new music I&#039;ve heard my Top40 station play does not fall in the FYE/Lady Gaga type thing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, I think that&#039;s it, too. I am just into over-analysis mode today, I guess. 

Honestly, this is the way the songs almost always climb. Small stations pick them up first, and if enough of them do, then they start to get some big stations, and then they take off. As you mention, the big stations are much more conservative about not playing something unless they already *know* that it&#039;s a hit .... Kills me that being large -- which you somehow thinks would make you brave -- actually makes them the biggest weenies, afraid to try anything that somebody else hasn&#039;t already proven works. But I guess that&#039;s what having a lot of money gives you -- the fear of having lots of money to lose.

Of course, if the small stations don&#039;t end up picking it up, I&#039;ll have to go back to overanalyzing .... 
But maybe I can put that off until after Christmas, because from here on in part of the problem for all the songs is definitely going to be those Christmas songs, on HAC particularly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s it. I think the issue is more that many of larger urban Top 40 stations with greater audience impressions are more about rhythmic/hip-hop and don&#8217;t play new artists of the Brittney/Lady Gaga elk until they&#8217;ve already hit the Top40. It&#8217;s up to the smaller stations combined with a few of the larger ones along with audience call-ins because they heard and liked it on their HAC station to get them playing it. Once they&#8217;ve embraced an artist, it won&#8217;t be as hard to get spins but the new music I&#8217;ve heard my Top40 station play does not fall in the FYE/Lady Gaga type thing.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, I think that&#8217;s it, too. I am just into over-analysis mode today, I guess. </p>
<p>Honestly, this is the way the songs almost always climb. Small stations pick them up first, and if enough of them do, then they start to get some big stations, and then they take off. As you mention, the big stations are much more conservative about not playing something unless they already *know* that it&#8217;s a hit &#8230;. Kills me that being large &#8212; which you somehow thinks would make you brave &#8212; actually makes them the biggest weenies, afraid to try anything that somebody else hasn&#8217;t already proven works. But I guess that&#8217;s what having a lot of money gives you &#8212; the fear of having lots of money to lose.</p>
<p>Of course, if the small stations don&#8217;t end up picking it up, I&#8217;ll have to go back to overanalyzing &#8230;.<br />
But maybe I can put that off until after Christmas, because from here on in part of the problem for all the songs is definitely going to be those Christmas songs, on HAC particularly.</p>
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		<title>By: progression</title>
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		<dc:creator>progression</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;jersey 
ETA: someone said it was posted by RCA in the forum at AO. So I kind of doubt it&#039;s really RCA.&lt;/em&gt;
There is a fan created thread in the forum with an OP claiming to quote a RCA moderator, but no actual post from a mod.  Looks like a dose of salt might be in order in regard to this being any sort of official communication.  The advise is good though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>jersey<br />
ETA: someone said it was posted by RCA in the forum at AO. So I kind of doubt it&#8217;s really RCA.</em><br />
There is a fan created thread in the forum with an OP claiming to quote a RCA moderator, but no actual post from a mod.  Looks like a dose of salt might be in order in regard to this being any sort of official communication.  The advise is good though!</p>
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		<title>By: ladymadonna</title>
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		<dc:creator>ladymadonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, yeah, I think you&#039;re right about Taylor, Kirsten.  I think it did come from him &quot;directly&quot; too now that you mention it.  If that message is from one of the RCA webnerds making a random post on some thread at AO, it&#039;s not gong to make an impact.  Maybe it is just a concerned fan.  Still, can things get any weirder out of Adam&#039;s camp?  Yikes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, yeah, I think you&#8217;re right about Taylor, Kirsten.  I think it did come from him &#8220;directly&#8221; too now that you mention it.  If that message is from one of the RCA webnerds making a random post on some thread at AO, it&#8217;s not gong to make an impact.  Maybe it is just a concerned fan.  Still, can things get any weirder out of Adam&#8217;s camp?  Yikes.</p>
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		<title>By: jpfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won&#039;t believe that RCA P.S. until I see a link. They&#039;d never post something like that on a forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t believe that RCA P.S. until I see a link. They&#8217;d never post something like that on a forum.</p>
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		<title>By: LittleAngie</title>
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		<dc:creator>LittleAngie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They called it a web extra</description>
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