Miley Cyrus Mentors The American Idol 9 Top 11! Joe Jonas and Demi Lovato Perform

Hells no. This must be a joke – right, MJ? Right?

This must be a joke – right, MJ? Right?

That’s what I thought when I read it.

Right… teen idol mentors and performers left over from the theme change… Good job idol! I hope jaws bites you in the butt.

Oh for the love. Miley is MENTORING? So to Aaron, 4 years in showbiz, from 12-16 is “so much experience”. Okay then. What would he have said about previous legit experienced mentors like Dolly, Mariah, Bon Jovi, etc? Christina Aguilera would’ve been great.

Jeez. Miley will be mentoring Crystal… This is bananas.

I kind of feel bad for Haeley! even worse for Crystal, Casey, and Lee.

Miley Cyrus? You’re kidding? She is mentoring aspiring singers in a singing competition? Now that is rich, considering she can’t sing. Maybe the Idolpowers should rethink this whole mentoring thing, or at least find someone who can actually sing on tune.

Who’s next? Taylor Swift.

Mentoring so they can screech like banshees? This is so wrong!!!!

This is bananas.

Hollaback Girl is now in my head… *thumbs up* lol lol

I eagerly await her fascinating insights.

Ugh. It’s like a Disney takeover week, only they took away the cheesy fun teen idol theme. Has Miley had a #1 single?

Can you put mentor in quotes?

I’m horrified that Miley will “mentor” folks like Crystal. Horrified.

*checks calender* It’s not April 1st yet . . .but this has to be a joke, right? I hope this isn’t Fox’s way of saying “Yeah, we don’t think this season can be saved either.” WOW. So last year they get Slash and this year Miley? Sorry Season 9, however we do have some lovely parting gifts for you.

This has got NO written all over it. Please, tell me this is some early april fools joke -.-”

Awesome! Now if the Idols need to learn how to sing using Auto Tune they have got it made with this Mentor!

:)
This season has to be the strangest one yet.

This is bananas.

Hollaback Girl is now in my head… *thumbs up* lol lol

Post of the day found. Thread over. Heeeeeee.

Wow, talk about an oxymoron – Miley and mentor in the same sentence. Way to reach for new heights, Idol!

Maybe they’ll bring in some of that hot teen demographic AI is looking for. Can this season get any worse?

Poor Crystal. She’s gonna need valium.

This should be hilarious. Can’t wait!

They changed the theme from Teen Idols to Billboard #1s, but kept the sucky teen mentor?

Can you just IMAGINE Miley Cyrus “mentoring” Crystal Bowersox? I cannot WAIT to see that. I hope it involved violence.

Miley and those blank, blank eyes. The horror…..

OMG! This season is a joke! Who came up with this half-brained idea? The shark is circling the ramp!

Jeez. Miley will be mentoring Crystal… This is bananas.

Yes, this is bananas, I do agree, and my groan went even deeper, because I live with a 10-year-old Miley-loving fan, and because I don’t want to hurt her feelings, I will have to reign in my disgust. Gah!

hahahahahaha….but I must say, it will be beyond entertaining to watch miley try to mentor crystal or siobhan

This is bananas.

Hollaback Girl is now in my head… *thumbs up* lol lol

Post of the day found. Thread over. Heeeeeee.

Hee, thanks, that’s actually what I was going for :). Remember how Gwen Stefani was a mentor, and people griped? I didn’t really watch that season, but I’ve heard complaints– well, compared to Miley, Gwen is practically a legend.

sma11ie:
03/22/2010 at 1:58 pm

Jeez. Miley will be mentoring Crystal… This is bananas.

Too funny and sad at the same time. A girl who can’t sing “mentoring” someone who can sing rings around her. What advice is Miley going to give her? “Hey Crystal, you need to loosen up a bit more on stage. Why not forget the guitar this week and try a stripper pole? It worked for me!” Ugh.

Turban may be safe for another week if the teens will be tuning in.

My first thoughts were “OUCH” Idol has definitely lost all credibility but as I re-thought the whole Miley Cyrus thing I said “okay, they’re trying to maintain their ratings” bringing in someone younger maybe. Personally, I don’t care for her nasally singing at all,however, that being said the girl has had success. Though, I feel it’s easier to make it in the “country” music industry than it is in other genres and I haven’t figured out why (maybe it’s a USA thing?). Just look at Danny Gokey, he seems to be doing okay since he turned to the country style (up to that point no one was interested in signing him). However, Miley Cyrus as mentor?? I don’t feel she’s had to struggle to get where she is, just saying. There are so many more “young” artists out there who have been successful, relevant and probably worked harder to get where they are – Avril Lavigne to name just one. I’m sure it’s all good though and she’ll probably do a wonderful job, after all, she’s certainly not shy and has an opinion on everyone and everything. Wish them all well and fun!

Oh my! Season 9 has officially jumped the shark! What has happened to my favorite TV show!!! So sad!

lol I don’t get it.

this is a joke, right.

Someone please tell me this is a joke.

I was really hoping for Ashlee Simpson, but Miley is an even more genius idea. She’ll be a perfect mentor with all of her experience and singing ability. I can’t wait…I’m sure she will mesh well with everybody…WTF???

My daughter has stopped watching AI with me. :( She says it is completely irrelevant and no one watches the show or talks about it in high school anymore.
She is going to laugh her ass off when I tell her Miley is a “mentor”.

The idols should be mentoring them… all of the idols have more talent in their finger then the 3 “teen idols”.

eeeeeewwwww. Seriously?

The more I think about it, the more LULZ it sounds. This is just too ridiculious for words.

Edit: At least Taylor Swift can kind of sort of write a song. What can Miley do, put on a blonde wig and sing about climbing?

auntieaimee:
03/22/2010 at 2:01 pm
I eagerly await her fascinating insights.

Should at least be lol worthy. FB’s to Joe Jonas as judge coming back to me – which means they won’t even have enough viable rehearsal footage to actually show during the show. Ugh, just ugh.

Then again, Tarantino was a mentor too – ngl that I thought that was a bit of a WTF choice too.

All I can say is I am so grateful to have my PVR and the ability to FF through what is becoming the most boring season of American Idol!
I do appreciate that they are trying to get a younger audience, but to alienate the majority viewers is so strange. At least it isn’t Taylor Swift- that would be about as low as the show could get.

People may just tune in to see how the “craziness” plays out. The Idol management may just have it here!

WTF is right! What the hell are they thinking. I mean they had a them change so now the mentors make no sense. Miley isn’t a great singer. I can’t imagine her being able to “teach” them anything. I will stil probably watch but will fast forward thru the mentoring session clips!

To look on the bright side — she can’t possibly be blander and more useless than Joe Jonas when he was a catatonic guest judge. “Yeah.”

I wonder…will more tweens & teens watch this week and what will it mean for the results?

Let’s keep a close eye on who doesn’t sing a teen idol song. Someone had the whole theme change around them.

At least it isn’t Taylor Swift- that would be about as low as the show could get.

Oh, don’t worry – I bet they’re lining her up for a few weeks from now, because every time I think they’ve managed to sink as low as they can go, they manage to dig a deeper trench.

Miley isn’t a great singer. I can’t imagine her being able to “teach” them anything

Exactly – omg, I remember rewatching her performance on S8, and it was so awful – so much bad singing coming out of that mouth. Yikes.

They go from mentors like Stevie Wonder, Barry Manilow, Smokey Robinson and even Peter Noone and Lulu, if you want older teen idols, to Miley Cyrus? This show is quickly becoming a huge joke. Outside of the tweens who watch, and I don’t know how many do these days, do they really expect the audience to take her seriously as a mentor?

Miley isn’t a great singer. I can’t imagine her being able to “teach” them anything.

There’s always pole dancing lessons.

wonderings… stop! LOL Your questions are hurting my brain. I keep running over and over all the possible scenarios in my head and none of them are good. Ugh… well at least I have the DVR to turn on and now I don’t even have to watch the results night.

ETA: I was going to mention the pole dancing too… but I was trying to block the image.

I will stil probably watch but will fast forward thru the mentoring session clips!

I’ve been live streaming in the background this season, and just pick up what sounds interesting on the recaps, really, there hasn’t been much – but for this? I’ll watch the ‘mentoring’ sessions, just in the hope of Comedy Gold!

It would be a horrible crime against humanity if Taylor Swift gets to be a mentor. Sure, her little teens will watch the show, but everybody else will be pissed. She sings worse than any contestant on the show ever. Oh, and Miley has nothing to contribute to the show. Crystal is sure to make a sour face.

You could not pay me to miss this train wreck. Mark my words, it will epic. Can’t wait for the Lee DeWyze and Miley interaction. BWAH!!!!!

Also, Dear Miley, Keep your paws off of Casey. We know you have a penchant for falling for the good looking guys you work with (regardless of age), so just thought we’d give you a heads up now. Paws off!

Demi Lovato…really!?!? Oh, the laughs just keep on coming…

Ok… I’m no huge fan of Crystal.. but what the heck advice can Miley give Crystal. The advice should probably be the other way around.

Don’t you see what’s happening…

Xfactor has no age limit, so they are hoping to bring their older audience over there, and they are trying to rebrand American Idol for the teens and tweens. Having ‘mentors’ like Miley Cyrus will do that for them.

It goes with the magazine too, which is more likely to sell a mag like that to teens and younger audiences.

I’m just afraid they are shooting themselves in the foot. I sure as heck don’t want to watch Miley Cyrus mentor anyone…

Ok… I’m no huge fan of Crystal.. but what the heck advice can Miley give Crystal. The advice should probably be the other way around.

Like someone mentioned earlier-there’s pole dancin lessons! Bring out the pole on the idol set by the piano scene and go at it! LOL

Has Miley had a #1 single?

Depends on how you define it.

“Party in the USA” – #1 BB Pop Songs (aka Mainstream Top 40), #1 BB Hot Digital Songs (226K), #2 BB Hot 100

Eh. Miley will bring in some of the younger audience. Why not? Certainly more appealing than some of the crypt keepers they have had on. Anybody remember what horrific things that Kenny Rogers had done to his face? When did he last have a relevant song? Jennifer Lopez was on a few years ago and she certainly doesn’t bring much more to the table than Miley. This show isn’t all about singing, it’s also about getting people to pay attention to you and Miley has done that. Not every person with a Disney show has gone on to gain such general fame.

I’m puzzled about the change from “Teen Idol”. I guess Miley wants us to take her more seriously. I’ll take her more seriously when she stops singing through her nose.

Miley’s the mentor?? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA. Was Taylor Swift not available?

I also looked at the calendar to see if today was April 1st! No lie.

This is the week that AI officially jumps the shark. They really do want a ‘Taylor Swift’ this year … or at least a teen and they’re bringing out the teen guns to try to assure heavy voting this week. Don’t expect Tim, Katie, or Aaron to leave. Probably not Didi either since she looks like Taylor.

Crystal must really be missing Lilly and Kaetlyn about now – or wishing she went with them. Nobody to do eyerolls with or go home at night and hang out laughing their asses of with. It will be worth watching just for the yucks.

Well, Miley *can* teach them how to gather fans for your “singing” career by first playing a highly-aspirational-to-8-year-olds character on a Saturday morning tv show. …. Obviously, that’s the way to rake in music sales by the millions these days, and none of the ex Idols have caught on to it.

Meanwhile, some of them can teach her how to sing. Sort of Idol Gives Back, for Mentors.

Let’s keep a close eye on who doesn’t sing a teen idol song. Someone had the whole theme change around them.

I’ll bet you’re a million percent correct about this!

Really, the whole ‘mentoring’ thing has always been kind of ridiculous. It’s ‘pimping my new album’ not mentoring.

And next week’s mentor, Usher, will be replaced by Justin Bieber.

I hope Crystal goes, “Yeah, yeah, whatever little girl. Run along, sweetie, and let the grown ups talk.” And then Siobhan will hit a big high note and Miley will say, “No, no, you need to be more screechy, more twang, less in tune — THAT’S what gets you a #1 record.” Aaron will be awestruck and will look at Miley with big puppy dog eyes.

Actually, I wish they had stuck with the Teen Idols theme because I was hoping that Tim would sing “Venus” by Frankie Avalon.

My daughter has stopped watching AI with me. :( She says it is completely irrelevant and no one watches the show or talks about it in high school anymore.

If they are trying to attract teens to the show? This ain’t going to do it. Miley appeals more to pre-teens than teens, I think.

My 16-year old niece left behind the Disney stuff when she was 12 years old.

She’s going to Coachella next month, and can’t wait…

Meanwhile, some of them can teach her how to sing. Sort of Idol Gives Back, for Mentors.

*snort*

Kirsten you have a point. I’d love for them to remove the old folks from the Finale too. Rod Stewart looking like he was going to break a hip of something.

The problem is that in order to truly mentor you need to be in the business a number of years first, hence they skew on the older side. I can’t believe that they can’t find anyone under 25 to mentor that can actually sing. Hell have some of the idol alums on as mentors, but for pete’s sake let them have real talent.

Idol Gives Back To Mentors – hahaha hilarious! Miley Cyrus “mentoring” Crystal would be like Joe Jonas “mentoring” Mick Jagger.

i’m kinda looking forward to this. i know miley cyrus is probably at the bottommest of the bottom of the pile, in fact she is not even in the pile, of possible mentors but i know i’ll have a laugh with her trying to give “advice” to actual singers. i’m sure miley is much much more exciting than say, randy travis. hehe.

Well, Miley can talk to Aaron, Katie and Tim about how they can go about getting cast on a Disney TV show once they get kicked off Idol!

She can also give them some advice on how to handle life on the road. No matter what you think of her talent, no one can argue that she isn’t hugely successful, and she might actually have some advice the S9 kids can use.

As long as she stays away from trying to give any advice about actual singing — because as far as I can tell, girl can;t sing without autotune!

Miley as a mentor has major LUTZ/train wreck potential. I know Idol is trying to appeal to younger viewers, but I could think of a bunch of better current artists to bring in besides Miley, Joe Jonas and Selena — all of whom are Disney bred. Could Idol BE any more white bread?

OMG! I wondered after I saw the talent level of the top 24, if this season could get any worse. Surprise! Surprise!, this season has just entered the twilight zone, in which Miley “princess of the Disney auto-tuned tarts” Cyrus, is now mentor for up and coming singers. What’s next week, the great “Taylor Swift”, will bring her superior vocal abilities to the show and leave the audience with bleeding ears. OMG!, to go from last season with mentors like Slash and Smokey Robinson, to the likes of Miley. I can’t even fathom how pathetic this show has gotten.

I’m sure she could teach Crystal Bowersox sooo much. *eyesroll*

This is comedy gold! The writers of SNL couldn’t have come up with anything more hilarious. I can’t wait!

Wow. So… wow. Miley Cyrus huh? And why did they change it from Teen Idol week then? Because that would have made sense. This, not so much. Though it should be FUNNY AS HELL to see Miley mentor the likes of Sibohan. Heh.

I actually think that Miley Cyrus is closer to the the kind of singer that AI was originally trying to create. A young singer, who appeals to a young audience, who sells platinum, is a Top 40 fixture, and is part of pop culture not only in music but in movies and television. The early Kelly Clarkson was closer to this type of singer than any champion since. Somewhere along the line, AI changed from producing this type of singer to producing Hot AC singers who appeal to 40 year old women [not that there is anything wrong with that].

Yes, Miley is not a great singer but on everything else, she is near the top. Crystal can definitely learn a lot from Miley and can hope to even have 1/4 of her success. No recent winner has come close.

They should bring back an Idol to mentor….how about Kelly or Carrie – instead of Miley….URGGGGGG

Good news is she’s mentoring this year and not last year. :-)

Turban may be safe for another week if the teens will be tuning in.

LOL, Turban…

Miley Cyrus???? Wtf.

I actually think that Miley Cyrus is closer to the the kind of singer that AI was originally trying to create.

You mean the kind who can’t sing?

ETA: Sorry, that was snide, I do take your point in the rest of your post.

They should have tried to get someone like Hayley from Paramore as a mentor — although (to use a bad cliche) she probably wouldn’t touch Idol with a 10-foot pole. She’s young (20 or 21) and her band is very relevant right now. There are a ton of current artists under the age of 30 who are not only relevant, but would attract a younger viewer base, who wouldn’t have the Disney stigma attached to them.

But Idol doesn’t seem to get it. They think people WANT safe, boring Disney types — even though of the Top 2 finishers in S7 and S8, only Archie is anything close to being a Disney type (no, Kris really isn’t a Disney type, despite the way the show tried to portray him)

ok if they are trying to get some teen viewers invested in the show, why not bring in talented young singers on the show? (ok now i’m racking my brain and trying to figure out which of the young singers nowadays actually do sing)….hmmmmm

This is horrifying!

Too funny and sad at the same time. A girl who can’t sing “mentoring” someone who can sing rings around her. What advice is Miley going to give her? “Hey Crystal, you need to loosen up a bit more on stage. Why not forget the guitar this week and try a stripper pole? It worked for me!” Ugh.

Love the stripper pole advice. :) Miley will probably suggest that Crystal dump the guitar and sing through her nose while partially draped in a sheet instead. Is the “nose” considered a legitimate instrument?

Ah ah, people have been complaining for the last few seasons that the themes and mentors are always the same, old and irrelevant.
So they have changed for teen metors.. . I for one, am looking forward to something different..and Miley mentoring will be umm interesting…

Wait till luv hears about this.

If they are trying to attract teens to the show? This ain’t going to do it. Miley appeals more to pre-teens than teens, I think.

My 16-year old niece left behind the Disney stuff when she was 12 years old.

Hannah Montana the show appeals to pre-teens, yeah, but I know plenty of 16-18-year olds who like Miley, JoBros. Heck, a lot of my top 40 loving 20-something friends love Party In the USA. Heck, who am I kidding, as much as I hate her voice, I loved The Climb, and enjoyed the Hannah Montana movie as a cheesy guilty pleasure, and may check out Last Song at some point. I can’t believe I just admitted that.

Miley Cyrus “mentoring” Crystal would be like Joe Jonas “mentoring” Mick Jagger.

LOL. I’d love to see this, actually. Grandpa Joe, meet grandson Mick.

Meanwhile, some of them can teach her how to sing. Sort of Idol Gives Back, for Mentors.

Ha! That is hilarious.

Miley, eh? Ugh. I find listening to her sing to be equatable to frogs croaking.

Don’t you see what’s happening…

Xfactor has no age limit, so they are hoping to bring their older audience over there, and they are trying to rebrand American Idol for the teens and tweens. Having ‘mentors’ like Miley Cyrus will do that for them.

X-Factor has had Miley appear multiple times and last year they used her hit song “The Climb” as the winner’s single (yep, the X-Factor winner always gets to do a cover. And a famous cover at that). So, I don’t think that X-Factor is “too old” for Miley.

I just think that Idol is trying to mix it up a bit.

Let’s look at some past mentors:
Season 5: Stevie Wonder (a legend, but when was his last hit?), David Foster (Mr. Grumpy himself) and Andrea Bocellie (opera dude), Kenny Rogers (or somebody who claimed to be him), Rod Stewart (still able to get the nubile young chicks, but looking a little weathered himself), Queen (amazing artists, but not much recent chart activity), Tommy Motolla (frightens small children and animals with a single glare) and Priscilla Presley (making Kenny’s plastic surgeon look like a genius).

Season 6 featured Bon Jovi and the Bee Gees. Season 7 was a little more hip with Gwen (whose theme ended up being “Songs Gwen Likes”) and Mariah, but did mix in some oldies and goodies (the amazing Miss Parton for one).

Season 8 returned to the dark ages with Randy Travis and Smokey Robinson (amazing talents, but old), Quentin Tarantino (younger, but not a musical artist), Jamie Foxx (now we are skewing younger), and Slash (oops, back to the older generation) whilst also featuring 20+ year old songs on Top Download weeks (never a top download) and Disco.

Is it any surprise that Idol has seen a massive erosion in its younger audience? So, they try to lure a few back. I’m sure they’ll dust somebody off in the Musical Artists of Yore Retirement Home for a future mentor later in the season.

I don’t care for Miley, but she has fans and people who want to see her and I have no problem with Idol mixing up the mentors a bit. If we can only have mega-experienced mentors, we are only going to get people who are mega-old and not relevant to the kiddies today. Sure, the kiddies like The Beatles and The Who and such, but there are some that want to see Miley too.

Guess who was left over from the Teen Idols theme plans???

Now I think I need a really big swig of Pepto-Bismol!

If they are trying to attract teens to the show? This ain’t going to do it. Miley appeals more to pre-teens than teens, I think.

Yeah, Miley appeals to 8 year olds. By 7th grade, most girls have outgrown her. Are 8-10 year olds really the demo AI is looking for? Most parents resent her, rather than enjoying her.

This is definitely “Jump the Shark” territory. No pretense left whatsoever that the mentors are legendary singers training the next generation. Miley can give them advice on using your famous parent to start a career, lip synching, playing yourself and calling it acting, and successful merchandising. She’s the type that’s successful now, but in 10 years she’ll be famous for how many times she’s already been in and out of rehab. Should be fun to watch the multi-talented, older artists in the competition try to keep a straight face listening to her. She sure isn’t going to help AI’s, or any of the contestants’, credibility in the music world.

Hannah Montana the show appeals to pre-teens, yeah, but I know plenty of 16-18-year olds who like Miley, JoBros. Heck, a lot of my top 40 loving 20-something friends love Party In the USA. Heck, who am I kidding, as much as I hate her voice, I loved The Climb, and enjoyed the Hannah Montana movie as a cheesy guilty pleasure, and may check out Last Song at some point. I can’t believe I just admitted that.

*scribbles down in my book* LOL j/k j/k

I do like PITUSA, but homegirl still cant sing.

OMG! I just had a really bad dream!!! Miley Cyrus is mentoring contestants on American Idol while two trains are colliding in the background… and Miley’s on water skis and there’s a SHARK up ahead…

Phew! So glad that’s over and I can forget all about that nightmare…

*facepalm*

Yes, Miley is not a great singer but on everything else, she is near the top.

Last place I would ever put Miley is near the top. She is mediocre schtick at its finest. Mediocre looks, voice, acting ability, common sense, intelligence, wow factor….she is so middle of the road that it is scary. Well, it has been confirmed, to me at least, that Disney is now running the idol machine and has a boatload of power. Guess this is the way that Idol and the Disney experience will get some adverts….

I’m just totally flabbergasted at this season. I only watch about 20 seconds of you tube recaps of each performance and it turns my stomach. Glad that my chosen shows conflict with idol…I would hate to be forced to watch any of real time Idol. Just oh my!!!!!

Miley Cyrus???? Wtf.

Oh dear God.

I actually think that Miley Cyrus is closer to the the kind of singer that AI was originally trying to create. A young singer, who appeals to a young audience, who sells platinum, is a Top 40 fixture, and is part of pop culture not only in music but in movies and television.

The problem is that Miley and many other people who fit this category pick up a lot of their fanbases and sales momentum from having tv roles that expose them to *very* young audiences as an aspirational, sexy figure *first,* and the main music sales come afterward, as this group of fans-created-very-young follows along and buys as their idol/hero gets older.

I’ve always said that the main thing standing between Jordin and the kind of stardom they envision for one of their pop princesses was starring in a Disney sit-com or some other Saturday-morning kiddie show or preteen movie. Since she never got that, she had a much harder time tapping into that market. Pre-teens aren’t really interested in music; they’re interested in role models and crushes; the music buying is just an offshoot of that.

So, as somebody mentioned upthread, if Miley can’t “teach” these guys how to get their own tv shows, they’re out of luck.

Is the “nose” considered a legitimate instrument?

Apparently, nassally is a form of singing (tm Chris Richardson)

Maybe it is a new way to eliminate the contestants. Whoever laughs first during the mentoring sessions goes home first. Maybe they had to do something since peeps were voting as much.

amber alert has been issued for the producers of american idol… they were last seen jumping the shark when the announcement came down miley cyrus would be acting as a guest mentor on s9.

…and there were people concerned and not feeling usher [who imo is infinitely more qualified] as a mentor for these contestants? didn’t cyrus recently state she’s giving up her music career [snort] soon to pursue acting full time? lol, x100.

Miley, eh? Ugh. I find listening to her sing to be equatable to frogs croaking.

Hey, wait a minute! I love frogs!

I detect a bit sarcasm/frustration in Crystal’s latest tweet:

AI9Contestants Crystal Bowersox: Look up “before the music dies.” Incredible documentary. http://bit.ly/c9mPup 24 minutes ago via Facebook

Here’s the page for the documentary:

http://www.beforethemusicdies.com/blog/about-the-film/

ETA: All the other contestants tweeted about doing their iTunes recording today.

Miley as a mentor for AI is a blasphemy.

And cumulus HAC added Adam today-the same day we have the wonderful news about Miley!

Miley, eh? Ugh. I find listening to her sing to be equatable to frogs croaking.

Hey, wait a minute! I love frogs!

I can croak if you want. Can I mentor?

Miley Cyrus as a mentor??
I am speechless..

betther bring Ahsley simpsons..

Miley should respectfully decline the position due to the fact that she is underqualified.

the writers at SNL are up in arms right now, convinced that the Idol team has planted a mole among them to overhear their brainstorming sessions…

I don’t agree that Miley’s demographic are just pre-teens. Not anymore. She had 2 big hits on top 40 radio last year (the climb and party in the usa) and lot of radio listeners started to like her. If she didn’t move from that, she’d be in the same situation like Jonas brothers right now and she clearly isn’t.

This is turing into Disney’s American Idol on Fox show.

I detect a bit sarcasm/frustration in Crystal’s latest tweet:

AI9Contestants Crystal Bowersox: Look up “before the music dies.” Incredible documentary. http://bit.ly/c9mPup 24 minutes ago via Facebook

Here’s the page for the documentary:

http://www.beforethemusicdies.com/blog/about-the-film/

Wow. LMAO!!!!!

Could you imagine the bitchface Lilly would have given Miley Cyrus? Heh.

She is appopriate in one way… she’s also someone who sells records based off popularity obtained through a TV show. So there’s that.

Will she be mentoring as Hannah Montana or Miley?

Miley, eh? Ugh. I find listening to her sing to be equatable to frogs croaking.

Hey, wait a minute! I love frogs!

I can croak if you want. Can I mentor?

That may make you overqualified.

That may make you overqualified.

Darn. They’ll just have to get the toad then.

I don’t agree that Miley’s demographic are just pre-teens. Not anymore. She had 2 big hits on top 40 radio last year (the climb and party in the usa) and lot of radio listeners started to like her.

That’s true, but I still think that it’s unlikely she would have gotten the momentum and the staying power to be where she is on the music charts if she hadn’t gotten the big boost from having such a big pre-teen base in the first place. As they quickly grew up into teens and became music-chart-drivers and music buyers, I think it’s pretty clear that they provided a core group that could sustain her popularity and keep her in the public and radio eye until she put out some songs that others would like, too.

Kind of the same way an Idol fan base has sustained some people until they caught on more generally!

Xfactor has no age limit, so they are hoping to bring their older audience over there, and they are trying to rebrand American Idol for the teens and tweens.

That could make sense actually… I’d like AI to go more current, but not necessarily more “teen”. I hate the teens this year (Katie and Aaron).

Did anyone see this article in Parade magazine. Foot in mouth disease.

“I am screwed up in the mind a little bit because I’m not like other 16- or 17-year-old girls. I have no perspective of who exactly my fans are, to tell you the truth. Teenage girls in general are hard for me. I’m not a girl’s girl.”

Why she’s steering clear of the country scene.
“It scares me, that’s why. It feels contrived on so many levels. Unless you’re wearing a cowboy hat and cowboy boots and singing and whining about your girlfriend or boyfriend leaving you it’s not going to sell. I think that’s why my dad finally got out of it. You have to wear those cowboy boots and be sweet as pie. It makes me nervous, the politics of it all.”

Ummmm Miley, your Dad is a one hit wonder has been, that’s why he “left”.

Link to the entire article. Trust me it gets “better”. Such intelligent words of wisdom to look forward to.

http://www.parade.com/celebrity/celebrity-parade/2010/0317-miley-cyrus-web-exclusive.html

ugh… she is in no way qualified to be a mentor, especially when she’s what, 17? teaching PEOPLE 10 YEARS OLDER THAN HER? And who are better singers than her? wtf? this makes no sense!

If they wanted a really young Disney kid then Taylor Swift is way better than Miley imo.

I truly can wait to watch this show!! It’s going to be so much fun to see Crystal’s eyes filled with tears. Siobhan’s face of “What does that mean?”. Hilarious!!! LOL!!

If they wanted a really young Disney kid then Taylor Swift is way better than Miley imo.

Taller > Miley imo as well.

Judee:
03/22/2010 at 3:06 pm
I don’t agree that Miley’s demographic are just pre-teens. Not anymore. She had 2 big hits on top 40 radio last year (the climb and party in the usa) and lot of radio listeners started to like her. If she didn’t move from that, she’d be in the same situation like Jonas brothers right now and she clearly isn’t.

I totally agree. AI has long since given up finding the “best singer”, if that was EVER the goal. How many times have you heard the term “package artist” on AI? If singing is all that it took, Allison Iraheta would be triple platinum by now as opposed to selling less than 100,000 units. What AI wants to do is produce commercially successful singers — preferably Top 40. Miley can teach them about this.

Conversation I just had with my 14 year old daughter:

Me: “Guess what. Miley Cyrus is the guest mentor this week on American Idol.

Daughter: “O.M.G. What has American Idol come to?!”

My 8 year old grandaughter even thinks Hannah Montana is so 5 minutes ago.

I can’t help wondering if this is to make American Idol more like Survivor, or Fear Factor. The challenge is for the contestants to maintain a straight face, not LOL or cry out in frustration while being “mentored”. Maybe its to discourage some of the older contestants and boost the chances for the kiddies.

I suppose they want to let no integration marketing opportunity between AI and Disney go to waste.

Love Crystal’s tweet. I was wondering what the older contestants were going to say about the mentoring session with Miley.

OMfreakingG!! You have got to be kidding me!! Miley??? Really??? Tons of experience??? All the contestants can sing circles around HER and she’s mentoring THEM? Idol, WTF???

Well, I won’t feel bad at all missing this week.

Ha ha ha ha ha.

Ohhh goddess, so funny.

Excellent choice AI! Miley is like, totally qualified to coach others on how to sing well. And she’s so well-spoken in general, that I’m sure she’ll have some really great insight to give to the kids like, ‘get a weekly show made by and backed by a huge multi-national corporation and not just a few weeks on one. And success may be yours, too!’

And Miley’s talent and skills are why she’ll be a great mentor and in no way are they blatantly try to increase ratings, especially in their eroding younger demo. If that happens of course, well that will just be a by-product to Miley’s awesome mentoring skillz.

What AI wants to do is produce commercially successful singers — preferably Top 40. Miley can teach them about this.

She can teach them about having long-time country songwriters give her songs for a movie and having pop urban songwriters hand her songs for a clothing line even though she doesn’t actually connect to the material?

(Actually, the cynical side of me says that’s not terrible preparation for their post-AI album experience unless they really press hard. Carry on.)

I do feel the need to defend Miley’s non-singing behind just a tad. She sings no worse than J-Lo, who was also a mentor, and she has been in the business since she was what, 12? I mean PAULA ABDUL was a judge people. PAULA ABDUL. Miley can give pointers about performing – which frankly, this crew needs – and she can talk about handling the pressures of fast-paced celebrity life. So there’s that.

I just wish they had kept the theme the same, that would have made this much less WTF.

I’m sure she could teach Crystal Bowersox sooo much. *eyesroll*

I love you MJ! LOL!

She sings no worse than J-Lo, who was also a mentor, and she has been in the business since she was what, 12?

She’s a veteran!

I just told my almost 13 y/o daughter and her reaction was “YES!!!!!” so there must be something that happens between 13 and 14 LOL.

tinawina – ITA. Lee, Aaron, Didi and Casey in particular could use a little loosening up on stage. Katie could absolutely learn something from Miley. I don’t care as much about Tim and Paige, but they certainly could learn a thing or 2 from Miley. It will be funny, though, to see the interaction with Crystal, Siobhan, Andrew and Big Mike. I wonder if Big Mike will hug her to death LOL.

Miley Cyrus to mentor, Joe Jonas and Demi Lovato to perform…

In reverse order, No!, NOOOO!, and NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I detect a bit sarcasm/frustration in Crystal’s latest tweet:

AI9Contestants Crystal Bowersox: Look up “before the music dies.” Incredible documentary. http://bit.ly/c9mPup 24 minutes ago via Facebook

Here’s the page for the documentary:

http://www.beforethemusicdies.com/blog/about-the-film/

Hee hee…I love Crystal!

I’m sure she could teach Crystal Bowersox sooo much. *eyesroll*

She could teach her to be marketable on a large scale. At present, she is not really, she’ll have to come across more fun is she wants to be a majot label artist.

Whoa, who are the AI contestants? How many hit songs do they have? How many arenas have they sold out? Most of them this year have no professional experience, to boot. Tim Urban is too freaking great to be mentored by Miley Cyrus?

I agree it’s like a joke having Miley mentor Crystal or Casey, but whatever else she isn’t, she’s a successful music star, and whatever else they are, they’re not successful music stars — yet.

I guess she can teach them how to make a suggestive song with an almost 50-year old.

tinawina – ITA. Lee, Aaron, Didi and Casey in particular could use a little loosening up on stage.

Yeah, maybe could get them to pole dance on an ice cream truck?

I think Aaron could really rock that.

She can teach them about having long-time country songwriters give her songs for a movie and having pop urban songwriters hand her songs for a clothing line even though she doesn’t actually connect to the material?

But it is not just about the songs. I don’t want to keep using Allison as the example but it really applies. She had Kelly Clarkson’s writers for her album as well as other hitmakers. Neither of her two singles are close to Top 40.

First off, Ross has a point, Miley is way more experienced in the music biz than any of the idol wannabes. That said, LOLOLOLOL!

I just don’t get how Miley could be a good mentor. Yeah, she is Top 40 successful, but how much of that success has really depended on her? She has a good management and Disney does all the rest. I would have preferred any Jonas boy instead of her.

Is this a sign that they truly care about Katie Stevens and Aaron Kelly? Those are the only two contestants that I can see getting an useful advice from that girl.

Idol’s officially jumped the shark for me with such a lousy, unexperienced “mentor”.

Yeah, maybe could get them to pole dance on an ice cream truck?

haha. i am actually imagining casey doing this shirtless. kara would be awed.

well, i know i’m gonna get booed here, but as much as i dont like myley cyrus i love her song The Climb. i think aaron, who sang this in his audition, will be singing it this week.

First off, Ross has a point, Miley is way more experienced in the music biz than any of the idol wannabes. That said, LOLOLOLOL!

HAHA, jersey!!! :)

ross, your point is well taken and no doubt multi-platinum sales is all the incentive the Powers That Be need to bring in Miley as a “mentor”.

Having said that, Miley Cyrus is a product of the Disney machine and a concept that sold the character and the image as much as the music. It’s not going to be the same trajectory for the older competitors on American Idol but maybe Katie and Aaron will get something useful out of it.

Edited to add…

But it is not just about the songs. I don’t want to keep using Allison as the example but it really applies. She had Kelly Clarkson’s writers for her album as well as other hitmakers. Neither of her two singles are close to Top 40.

I think it says a lot about how well Disney develops and promotes its product and how poorly 19Alphabet does by comparison. If AI’s demographics are older than Disney’s they should be finding ways to get Allison and other teen AI finalists on Disney programs.

Miley is way more experienced in the music biz than any of the idol wannabes.

But isn’t that the point of a mentor anyway? I just think that Miley was taken where she is now, being lucky to have a famous dad.

few advice tips miley can give to the contestants:

- how to wear a wig
- how to sing, wearing a wig
- how to act, wearing a wig (or then again, maybe not)
- how to sing, with the help of auto-tune
- how to dance around the stage, wearing hideous outfits, singing off key and looking cheesy, all at the same time

I can’t really get my knickers in a twist over Miley Cyrus “mentoring” the AI contestants, not after all the turkey dung mentors AI has foisted on them before. I like the girl and at least one of her songs (the inspirational one). I don’t think for a minute she is going to critique and advise most of the singers, as that would be disrespectful to her elders, but I do think she might help out Tim Urban and Aaron Kelly. They might appreciate some relaxed peer review.

When Justin Bieber mentors, I leave. And I see no need to watch this week’s result show with Joe Jonas, et al.

WTF?!?!

At some point I thought this season would be great because:
1- it is in the best interest of Idol producers to leave people looking forward to a post X-Factor Idol season; and
2- it is in the best interest of Simon to be likable so that people wanna tune into the X-Factor.

Boy was I wrong!!!

This season is TERRIBLE!!!

Exhibit A: Top 16 eliminations
Exhibit B: Ke$ha
Exhibit C: adding to the mix the flagship of everything that is wrong with today’s music: Miley

Only Crystal, and to a lesser extent Didi (don’t get Siobhan), keep me interested.

Look on thr bright side if she does perform on results night with a stripper pole then maybe when Adam comes back to perform we can get Crawl Thru Fire ;)

Just saw this and I have not read all the comments, but Idol has officially jumped the shark with this move.

I thought the Jonas brother and Avril as judges was useless, but I thought at least they are not mentors and their input is somewhat diluted with the other judges. But now these contestants have scheduled one-one-one time with Miley to help with their songs. Ugh.

I guess it’s good news that they do not have to sing her catalog.

Somewhere Lilly Scott is laughing her head off.

Truthiness – I think you might be onto something. The ratings just might soar this week with all of the speculation about what advice Miley may give this crew! After all, it’s a TV show!

LOL. whoo hooo Miley Cyrus mentoring. I LOVE THIS CHEESY SHOW.

Normally each contestant has a few minutes with the mentor, they sing their song and get a few helpful pointers, hopefully. The mentors aren’t there to give them career counseling, which is what I keep seeing here as the rationalization for having her as a mentor.

Also, as for the comparison with J-Lo (which Jim C. keeps making), granted she is not a great singer either, but she is a consummate performer. I just don’t think the same thing can be said about Miley, although I admit I’ve only seen her perform a couple of times. One was on the VH1 Divas show, and it was not pleasant.

Didn’t Miley’s brother, Trace (from the band Metro Station), go out with Demi Lovato? Just remembered that.

http://ancudeu.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/demi-lovato-and-trace-cyrus.jpg

Miley is truly awful as a live performer and there’s never been a more pre-processed piece of Hollywood software then she, right down to her attempts to follow Britney into the sexy adult category while coyly protecting her teen franchise.

But can we truly say she’s a more inappropriate mentor then Barry Manilow or Gloria Estefan, warhorses who had not been relevant to popular music in 20 to 30 years and whose pop hits had dated so badly that they’d faded even from the dusty corners of Oldies 100?

Another clue tho that they aren’t serious about the male contestants this year though. And maybe not even the female.

Good luck with that Katie Stevens record, 19.

If they’d kept the teen idols theme it would have been funnier. Bowersox coulda done a Melissa Etheridge take on Party in the USA.

ross:
03/22/2010 at 3:38 pm
Whoa, who are the AI contestants? How many hit songs do they have? How many arenas have they sold out? Most of them this year have no professional experience, to boot. Tim Urban is too freaking great to be mentored by Miley Cyrus?

I agree it’s like a joke having Miley mentor Crystal or Casey, but whatever else she isn’t, she’s a successful music star, and whatever else they are, they’re not successful music stars — yet.

Ross I completely get where you are coming from and on the surface I agree with you. In all seriousness, my rub in this whole situation is that the role of a mentor is not to give advice on how to launch a successful career (as Miley has), but how to enhance their vocal performance. Maybe if she worked with them on their stage presence, that would be good. But really, does anyone think that she has useful input in all her ‘years’ to make suggestions about changing the arrangement of a song or how to emphasis certain emotions? I just don’t see it. Boy I’m glad that I’m not the one editing this bit. I have a feeling there will be more than a few awkward moments left on the cutting room floor.

Miley Cyrus = epic failure.. we should just end this season now if the producers are going to make choices like this.

earthy.. I’m telling you. My earlier suggestion is just to draw a name out of a hat.

Lololol. But this could actually be fun in a sad way:)

This should be awesome. I can’t wait to see Miley “mentor” Crystal. Maybe she’ll lend her some skinny jeans, platform sandals, and a wig. And she can help Casey with his wardrobe decisions — so it won’t be a complete waste!

If Casey comes out in a muscle shirt like Miley’s old boyfriend Justin Gaston (who “competed” on Nashville Star when Miley’s dad was the host), then you know she ‘done him right.’

See Justin here with David Cook and a couple of his bandmates about 1:00 in. LULZ:

VIDEO: David Cook Visits The “If I Can Dream” House

you know AI needs viewers if they have Miley Cyrus mentoring. :\ Not that I hate Miley I like several of her songs (and even have a CD of hers.) heh heh. But in no way should she be a mentor. It sounds funny calling her a mentor hahahha!!
Anyone else think she’ll flirt with Tim?
p.s. what’s Joe Jonas going to perform by himself? :/ (yuck)

It will be funny, though, to see the interaction with Crystal, Siobhan, Andrew and Big Mike. I wonder if Big Mike will hug her to death LOL.

Now that I agree with. She ain’t got nothing for them, man.. to quote Flava Flav.

Miley is truly awful as a live performer

I don’t think she’s that bad. She’s not a good live singer but she is a good performer to me. She can also sell a song.

I don’t think Miley is the bestus mentor ever, and I do think there is some epic trainwreck potential here in the most lulz worthy way possible, but I do think the girl is not all bad. She has lots of personality and it should be fun to watch IMO.

Miley Cyrus could give the Idols some advice regarding the business of entertainment — and everyone could benefit from that. Artistically, I don’t know what she might have to offer. It’s hard to believe that Siobahn or Crystal would benefit from her coaching. You never can tell, though. I’ll try to keep my mind open on this one.

There is no rational explanation for this. These kids are getting jipped. Even if Aaron Kelly thinks this is a dream come true he deserves the likes of Stevie Wonder and Dolly Parton. They all do. I am currently listening to Norah Jones –why not someone like her, or Annie Lennox, or Chrissie Hynde.

What is this world coming to?! Miley Cyrus? LMAO

Seriously. TPTB couldn’t find another mentor or nobody wants to have anything to do with this show any more, other than promoting their current singles?

Wait – just realized – why is Joe Jonas performing? Isn’t it Nick who has the solo band project?

p.s. what’s Joe Jonas going to perform by himself? :/ (yuck)

He’s just performing a duet with Lovato, according to the press release.

Lulz. I’m going to watch this just to see the look on Crystal’s face when they find out who their “surprise” “mentor” is!!

If Cyrus is mentoring now, can Bieber be far behind???

Wait – just realized – why is Joe Jonas performing? Isn’t it Nick who has the solo band project?

He’s performing for the same reason Miley is. He and Demi have a movie coming out in a while, and Miley has a movie coming out immediately. ….

As someone else has mentioned, Disney has taken over the enterprise and when it can it’ll just run it as an extended Disney advertising slot, I expect.

BootStar:
03/22/2010 at 4:18 pm
This should be awesome. I can’t wait to see Miley “mentor” Crystal.

THIS! LOL – I want Crystal to make as many snarky faces and comments as possible that completely go over the head of Miley. I’d love that :-)

Oh ugh. Could someone please knock me out cold right before Idol starts this week? On the bright side, maybe Miley will teach Casey how to pole dance.

He’s performing for the same reason Miley is. He and Demi have a movie coming out in a while, and Miley has a movie coming out immediately. ….

As someone else has mentioned, Disney has taken over the enterprise and when it can it’ll just run it as an extended Disney advertising slot, I expect.

Ahh, got it – thanks!

Ross I completely get where you are coming from and on the surface I agree with you. In all seriousness, my rub in this whole situation is that the role of a mentor is not to give advice on how to launch a successful career (as Miley has), but how to enhance their vocal performance. Maybe if she worked with them on their stage presence, that would be good. But really, does anyone think that she has useful input in all her ‘years’ to make suggestions about changing the arrangement of a song or how to emphasis certain emotions? I just don’t see it. Boy I’m glad that I’m not the one editing this bit. I have a feeling there will be more than a few awkward moments left on the cutting room floor.

koshka, you’re right. I don’t think the mentors are there to give career advice. They should be there to give advice on the vocal performances. But then there are mentors like Quentin Tarantino who aren’t qualified to be vocal coaches. (Though as a film director he could be helpful with performance.)

I guess my point about Miley is that she’s what AI says you’re supposed to aspire to be. A successful mainstream recording artist between the ages of 16 and 28, with big hit songs and sold out concerts. So in a way that makes her the perfect AI mentor. As sad as that may be!

I guess my point about Miley is that she’s what AI says you’re supposed to aspire to be. A successful mainstream recording artist between the ages of 16 and 28, with big hit songs and sold out concerts. So in a way that makes her the perfect AI mentor. As sad as that may be!

And I actually think this would be valid mentorship, if I didn’t firmly believe that having the tv show really got Miley where she is.

Any listeners and buyers she picks up will always be on *top* of the mass of little-girls-now-more-grown-up that she’s gathered from the tv show. And so her numbers are always artificially inflated over those of other pop singers — I believe — and the way in which she attained her success corporate-created and thus unobtainable for other people.

I’d have no problem with a pop princess mentoring if she got her pop princess success based on music alone …. Hence, I wouldn’t have a problem with Taylor S mentoring, really, even though she *is* a crappy singer. Different mentors can bring different insights, and they don’t all have to be about vocals. After all, they have a team of top-notch vocal coaches for that.

But, to me, Miley’s success is built pretty much entirely on stuff that has nothing to do with Miley. So she doesn’t provide a usable model, for any of them, as far as I can see.

right down to her attempts to follow Britney into the sexy adult category while coyly protecting her teen franchise.

Britney had way more talent than Miley does now. I don’t even hate Miley (though I really dislike her voice), but heh, I loved Britney…

Mary102:
Wait – just realized – why is Joe Jonas performing? Isn’t it Nick who has the solo band project?

In addition to what lucy said-Joe and Demi sing a song together that’s a song for the new Disney movie “Oceans” which comes out in April.

Miley Cyrus mentoring; a Jonas brother and a Disney actress performing, what a perfectly crappy combination of “talents” for a perfectly crappy American Idol season. Kudos to AI for putting together this crapfest.

and the way in which she attained her success corporate-created and thus unobtainable for other people.

Except Idols, who are also widely seen as corporate-created? LOL

It’s not April 1 yet, is it?

Except Idols, who are also widely seen as corporate-created? LOL

Yeah, I agree. In fact, I mentioned in my earlier post on this subject that the only other people who get that initial tv bounce are the Idols!

However, I think Miley’s bounce is on steroids — and *post*-their-own-Season, Idols have no way of getting the Miley tv bounce …. Maybe Kat McPhee will get one if she gets her own sit-com, though, lol. She still won’t be getting that desirable pre-teen girl market, though — Get an eight-year-old and you have her for life!

brewster:
03/22/2010 at 4:49 pm
Miley Cyrus mentoring; a Jonas brother and a Disney actress performing, what a perfectly crappy combination of “talents” for a perfectly crappy American Idol season. Kudos to AI for putting together this crapfest.

Yeah, just realized that this means I have little to look forward to for Wednesday’s show – except to drink and be extra snarky while watching :-)

Otherwise, at least with almost every other results show we had former, excellent idols performing. Oh, wells.

Can we bring Scott back? Maybe a duet with Megan? Anoop has a single out too…just saying, AI…

Yeah, just realized that this means I have little to look forward to for Wednesday’s show – except to drink and be extra snarky while watching :-)

Come now. This seems like a great deal to look forward to! :)

I think they bring in mentors based on the crop of idols they have.
Last year with two rockers, naturally they brought the man, Slash!
And, Slash agreed from the interviews because he thought S8 was special – thats why he did it for those two(Adam/Allison) in particular. I doubt He’ll show this year as a mentor.
It depends in the year too,

However, I think Miley’s bounce is on steroids — and *post*-their-own-Season, Idols have no way of getting the Miley tv bounce ….

Ah, I see. Good point. Though it should be said that not all Disney products have sold as well as Miley (Hilary Duff, Raven Simone, Selena Gomez, Demi Lovato, etc) so I tend to think Miley herself has something to do with her success. Not that that something has to do with singing. LOL

Ugh… If this isn’t a sign that the producers want a Disneyesque teen pop singer (i.e.: Katie or Aaron) as the winner this year, I don’t know what is. Good luck in keeping an audience of anyone over 16, Idol producers.

Obviously, Miley was brought on as a mentor for “Teen Idols” week, but the theme was then changed. I’m guessing it’s because one (or more) of the producers’ favorites struggled with the original theme, and they needed to add more “adult” songs in order to avoid a bad performance. Quite honestly, I don’t think that many of the contestants will have to change their original song choices (as “teen idol”-types have quite a few #1 hits on the Billboard charts). Thus, we’ll know which performer(s) struggled with the original theme if they choose a song by a more “adult” artist.

I think they bring in mentors based on the crop of idols they have.

You’re depressing me. Let’s try to figure out what mentors will be appropriate to this group. (Just kidding, maybe it could be a good season overall. It depends on which contestants last, I guess.)

Just when I thought there was nothing else they could do to make me like this season less…

And what is up with not having an Idol to come back and perform? They did it every results show last year, and have been doing so this year up to this point…

And what is up with not having an Idol to come back and perform? They did it every results show last year, and have been doing so this year up to this point…

well they also cut out the group number last week…

This will be perfect… Miley will mentor tomorrrow, Tim Urban will be eliminated the day after, and then we can all se how he become the next boy toy living with Miley as her boyfriend … lolol… good tv all around…

Yeah, just realized that this means I have little to look forward to for Wednesday’s show – except to drink and be extra snarky while watching

Come now. This seems like a great deal to look forward to!

NGL – watching the last few weeks of AI while slightly intoxicated has proven to be an excellent decision ;-)

and the way in which she attained her success corporate-created and thus unobtainable for other people.

Except Idols, who are also widely seen as corporate-created? LOL

hi 5 tinawina – type slower, maybe the irony in that sentence will hit home, lolol.. i swear, i have never laughed so much this early in a season. idol is just more or less now a soap opera, with a little singing on the side. girlfriend, i am so glad not to be invested in anyone on the show this year. watching it purely for the lulz and entertainment is more enjoyable :D

Miley…mentor?!

Somehow I think it’s rather insulting to have someone younger than a lot of the contestants being the mentor.

I can’t even see Miley giving good advice when SHE HERSELF CANNOT SING!

Every single person on American Idol, Tim Urban included, has more talent than Miley.

ETA: I get the Miley is successful and maybe that’s what they are aiming for…that success, but honestly out of this bunch….no. And secondly, in all its seasons AI has only produced three contestants that have a super successful status, and they are Kelly, Carrie and Daughtry. Everyone else has probably had success, but not on those terms. So good luck trying to create your Taylor Swift/Miley Cyrus reincarnate, AI. You got the wrong bunch of idols to do it.

Wow, Miley Cyrus. Although Crystal referred everyone to a movie, I think she’s indicating music has died on AI. AI just lost all the music cred it acquired up to last year. Miley is talented and although she is popular she’s still developing. Hmm you think Slash,or Queen will make a reappearance this year….I think not. Plus I doubt Led Zeppling will release rights to any of their songs this year. I read that Usher is mentoring. So who’s next tone deaf Justin Beiber?

I read that Usher is mentoring. So who’s next tone deaf Justin Beiber?

Usher can sing. And perform. And he’s had hits within the last decade. LOL. He’s a good mentor to me.

idol is just more or less now a soap opera, with a little singing on the side.

Hell it was always that ggdoors. LOL! Why else would Jasmine Trias get to 3rd place?

Hell it was always that ggdoors. LOL! Why else would Jasmine Trias get to 3rd place?

dadgum it tinawina you had to go and remind me, lolol… i was f-i-n-e fine! in my delusions about this show for a number of years, but praise jeebus, i seen the light, lol [hugs] u are on fiyah today girl! :D

So not only has Idol jumped the shark, it has taken off in a turbo-powered rocket ship and leapt over two Pacific Oceans-worth of fearsome toothed creatures then catapaulted into the stratosphere, never to return. As horrible and as insulting and as nonsensical as the thought of Miley “mentoring” is, I’ll be tuning in primarily to see whether or not Crystal can suppress her contempt when Miley attempts to impart her musical “wisdom” upon her. Idol has now officially turned into a surreal and grotesque sketch comedy show created by people inhaling crack through every orifice in their body 24 hours a day.

ggdoorsfan:
03/22/2010 at 5:08 pm lolol.. i swear, i have never laughed so much this early in a season. idol is just more or less now a soap opera, with a little singing on the side. girlfriend, i am so glad not to be invested in anyone on the show this year. watching it purely for the lulz and entertainment is more enjoyable

Ditto!! You sure hit the nail on the head. I find the show is an absolute snooze-fest,however, you need to view it to be able to keep up with these boards. Personally for me, here is where I find the real entertainment of Season 9 on these sites, the comments, etc. There are times I’m here chuckling out loud and someone passes by and says “what are you laughing about”. The best ever!

Just when we thought the season couldn’t get worse, Hannah Montana is ‘mentoring’ the idols. Who Miley is qualified to mentor is some wanna be disney star tweens who have famous dads. Thats it. Its insulting to every single person in the top 11, including Tim Urban, to have Miley as a mentor. If Miley were to try out for Idol, I don’t think she’d make the top ten. What would have been a better idea is to bring one of the idol winners back to mentor – perhaps Kelly, Carrie or David. Idol has hit a new low. I hope Crystal rolls her eyes and comes up with a good one liner over Miley’s head. That would be epic!

So not only has Idol jumped the shark, it has taken off in a turbo-powered rocket ship and leapt over two Pacific Oceans-worth of fearsome toothed creatures then catapaulted into the stratosphere, never to return. As horrible and as insulting and as nonsensical as the thought of Miley “mentoring” is, I’ll be tuning in primarily to see whether or not Crystal can suppress her contempt when Miley attempts to impart her musical “wisdom” upon her. Idol has now officially turned into a surreal and grotesque sketch comedy show created by people inhaling crack through every orifice in their body 24 hours a day.

hall of fame comment! :D

Is it any surprise that Idol has seen a massive erosion in its younger audience? So, they try to lure a few back. I’m sure they’ll dust somebody off in the Musical Artists of Yore Retirement Home for a future mentor later in the season.

I think getting Ke$ha to perform targeted teens more than asking Miley to mentor. Miley no longer appeals to the teen/preteen group. You need to go much younger than that- around 5th or 6th grade or younger. Teens would be more interested to see someone like John Mayer or Lady Gaga mentor and perform. Or, as sad as it is, Taylor Swift.
Actually, if AI could get Taylor Lautner to be a mentor- the ratings from girls age 9 to 21 would explode! LOL!

With the incredibly poor quality of singing demonstrated by the contestants this season, I suppose it is appropriate that Ms. Cyrus be asked to mentor the group on the value of Auto-Tune.

I hope Crystal rolls her eyes and comes up with a good one liner over Miley’s head. That would be epic!

This will only happen over Mickey Mouse death body… lol this remaind me of the South Park episode with the Jonas Brothers…

I think getting Ke$ha to perform targeted teens more than asking Miley to mentor. Miley no longer appeals to the teen/preteen group. You need to go much younger than that- around 5th or 6th grade or younger. Teens would be more interested to see someone like John Mayer or Lady Gaga mentor and perform. Or, as sad as it is, Taylor Swift.
Actually, if AI could get Taylor Lautner to be a mentor- the ratings from girls age 9 to 21 would explode! LOL!

Try 2nd grade. I teach 2nd and I tell you, Miley Cyrus has exploded in my classroom. From lunch boxes, to backpacks, coats, clothes, cds, you name it. One of my students saw Miley this November and I heard about it for WEEKS and MONTHS afterwards. By the time, most kids hit 5th and 6th grade they aren’t into Miley. I usually see the interest wane in 5th and by 6th grade they’ve moved on…usually to Twilight.

And next week’s mentor….wait for it…….Bikini Girl!!! :lol:

Try 2nd grade. I teach 2nd and I tell you, Miley Cyrus has exploded in my classroom. From lunch boxes, to backpacks, coats, clothes, cds, you name it. One of my students saw Miley this November and I heard about it for WEEKS and MONTHS afterwards. By the time, most kids hit 5th and 6th grade they aren’t into Miley. I usually see the interest wane in 5th and by 6th grade they’ve moved on…usually to Twilight.

You are probably right. It’s sad when the 9-11 year olds are too cool for you. I agree with the Twilight observation.
Like I said: Taylor Lautner=Rating’s goldmine! LOL

Geez people. You’d think the world was ending. It’s not *that* bad.

LOL. im lurking for 2 years now and my first comment will be from a thread “miley mentors”.. cant believe idol, that was a big news. i mean, mentoring singers who sings better than you. can i thank heavens that kelly, ruben, fantasia, carrie, taylor, jordin, david, & kris (also adam & archie) didn’t have to be exposed on this “life changing experience”. good for them for trying out earlier! i already pity our future champion..

The suggestion that American Idol could just pretend Taylor Lautner is a singer and have him mentor the AI9 contestants is amusing, but don’t give them any ideas — they just might do it. Or the show could claim that he is mentoring them on how to be a star.

On second thought, after Miley Cyrus, they couldn’t have Taylor Lautner on as mentor; he would be too sophisticated.

will:
03/22/2010 at 2:59 pm
I detect a bit sarcasm/frustration in Crystal’s latest tweet:

AI9Contestants Crystal Bowersox: Look up “before the music dies.” Incredible documentary. http://bit.ly/c9mPup 24 minutes ago via Facebook

Here’s the page for the documentary:

http://www.beforethemusicdies.com/blog/about-the-film/

ETA: All the other contestants tweeted about doing their iTunes recording today.

OK, as if she wasn’t already, Crystal has just gone up 50 points as one of the coolest AI contestants of all time. This is an AWESOME documentary. If you haven’t seen it before, you can watch it on Hulu.com. I found it about a year or so ago and was blown away.

can i thank heavens that kelly, ruben, fantasia, carrie, taylor, jordin, david, & kris (also adam & archie) ddn’t have to exposed on this “life changing experience”. good for them for trying out earlier! i already pity our future champion..

my thoughts exactly :D

Well…I have to agree that the show clearly jumped the shark now. Miley F-ing Cyrus as a mentor? Is she going to teach them how to sing poorly? Is she going to get them hooked up to the disney mind control machine that has made it so mediocraties like herself can sell records to 10 year-olds? I think not. I will not watch this creature try to tell anybody how to improve a song. Just when you think the producers can’t sink any lower….

Sorry, but I just had a flashback to previous seasons. Can you imagine Miley “mentoring” contestants like David Cook or Adam Lambert? Watching her give “advice” to them on singing or stage presence would have been priceless. As amusing as tomorrow will be, having her mentor in previous seasons would have been epic.

ETA: Just saw _nyanyanie’s comment — we’re on the same wavelength!

this is actually going to be pretty funny I bet! I bet Siobhan and Miley footage will be priceless ;) Actually Miley & Casey, Miley & Crystal, Miley and all of them will be priceless! Oh! If Katie Stevens sings “Party in the USA” I will for sure die of laughter :D

Just when I thought there was nothing else they could do to make me like this season less…

Agreed. This is so depressing its almost funny. Like a movie thats so bad, its good for a laugh. So, is that what AI is going for? Get the kids viewing, add in some reluctant parents, throw in some folks who have to be intoxicated or in some other way numbed to the pain to tune in, sprinkle with folks who love a good train wreck, and voila, you’ve got a season?

I was going to warn folks to remember to vote for Crystal since she seems like she could get lost in this rush for the teen vote. But really, I’m started to think maybe its better for her to get out while the gettings good, and try to distance herself from with this loser season. I’m not sure that winning over this group is really saying all that much.

Miley Cyrus – as mentor? Really? For one thing, she’s just a kid, younger than most of them. Secondly, she’s not a good singer. The only thing she can teach them is how to fleece the public by first conquering the kid market with a cutesy TV show, and then market yourself as a “singer” to those same kids, and then use a slick marketing campaign that builds from there. Hey, maybe Tim, Aaron or Katie will find that kind of information invaluable. I find Miley so incredibly annoying and distasteful. The best I can say about her is she’s incredibly confident and obviously a savvy business-girl? I can’t even imagine what a good singer, like Crystal, would do with this punk ‘mentoring’ her. Yuck, yuck, yuck.

my least favprite person EVER
EXCUSE ME WHILE I COMMIT SUICIDE

Well you know guys as a protest you could just not watch this week, cuz you know MJ will have the video clips up fast anyway. That way you get the best of both worlds. You can lower the rating for miley’s appearence and then watch here and lol at her. :)

Usher can sing. And perform. And he’s had hits within the last decade. LOL. He’s a good mentor to me.

Yeah, no problem with Usher as mentor.

The suggestion that American Idol could just pretend Taylor Lautner is a singer and have him mentor the AI9 contestants is amusing, but don’t give them any ideas — they just might do it.

Well, what about Kristen Stewart? She’s starring as Cherie Currie in The Runaways bio-pic

Ch-ch-ch-Cherry Bomb! Lol

I was going to warn folks to remember to vote for Crystal since she seems like she could get lost in this rush for the teen vote. But really, I’m started to think maybe its better for her to get out while the gettings good, and try to distance herself from with this loser season. I’m not sure that winning over this group is really saying all that much.

”looks around with shifty eyes”…

lotta word in this statement. idol pimping usually does a single and a cd good, and in the past many have clamored for a performing spot, but i don’t think i’m gonna care if my fave isn’t on this year’s show… the loser stench for this season is beginning to permeate everything. that’s sad, and i never thought i’d feel that way, or say that about idol, but that’s how i’m feeling about this season.

Well, what about Kristen Stewart? She’s starring as Cherie Currie in The Runaways bio-pic

Ch-ch-ch-Cherry Bomb! Lol

Hi, MJ. Kristen Stewart is playing Joan Jett, not Cherie Currie, in The Runaways — but she would still be an “awesome” choice. :)

Well you know guys as a protest you could just not watch this week, cuz you know MJ will have the video clips up fast anyway.

yep, im already thinking about to skip idol this week, then found out the news, i was kinda sure now to pass. i’ll just see mj’s recap..

oh speaking of MJ.. hi MJ! been a lurker for 2 years now.. just wanna say hi to you.. i just registered half an hour ago.

oops, wrong b-qoute! sorry!

luvadamlambert:
03/22/2010 at 5:45 pm
my least favprite person EVER
EXCUSE ME WHILE I COMMIT SUICIDE

Luv, don’t do it! Quick, go back to the Adam kilt thread. It will make you feel better. :)

This will be perfect… Miley will mentor tomorrrow, Tim Urban will be eliminated the day after, and then we can all se how he become the next boy toy living with Miley as her boyfriend … lolol… good tv all around…

LMAOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LindaT

i think i am :)

i ABHOR her ..id rather have glenn beck mentor…once,i actually yelled at disne world that i want to kill hannah montana…i got a glare from the little kids with their hannah montana memorabilia

And she’s mentoring too??!!

this episode will be IMPOSSIBLE to watch!!

@CruzCeleste… you are so right.

hahaha.. so much comments on this post!
it’s really weird that Miley got to mentor this episode. It just shows that they want to bring a younger crowd to AI

I’ll definitely be watching something else this week, anything else. Haven’t decided if I’ll even DVR it, or just come to MJ’s for the clips.

Great movie that Crystal tweeted about! Now, I hope she doesn’t bleed to death biting her tongue, while being mentored.

Oh, BTW, the documentary that Crystal has recommended? In.Cred.I.Ble. I went to an evening with the creators of the film and found the Q&A incredibly revealing as these guys are in the trenches inside the music and radio industry. Veerrry interesting that Crystal chose this week to tweet that message about the video, Before the Music Dies. Miley Cyrus is perfect evidence of the death of music replaced by the elevation of the marketing image. “The reality is that superficiality is in,” says Branford Marsalis. “And depth and quality is kind of out.”

Well, at least Crystal is telling it like it is, although I am left to wonder where that leaves her in the music biz.

What is this world coming to???? Miley as a mentor? I have nothing against her but if there is any mentoring I think she would be the one that needs to be mentored at and not the other way around.

What a wonderful Tuesday night ‘treat’ we’ll have tomorrow!

The real problem I have with Miley is that she probably wouldn’t have gotten the role of Hannah Montana if it weren’t for her dad.

I would rather have Hilary Duff, if we are going to go down that path. Not that Hilary is the best singer, but she’s been around the entertainment business for years and could probably give them some tips on how to sell yourself.

Does this mean that they aren’t bringing back an idol every week or do you think they’ll find three minutes for someone?

Miley Cyrus? AI is really chasing after the kid audience. Don’t they already have that?

Has it been mentioned that the joe jones demi loveto song may be a charity single?

whatev…. everyone, and i mean everyone, is crap this year, including the bowersox girl, she sounds good to some because in slew of horrific people, at least she stinks less…

that being said… miley cyrus? REALLY? REALLY AI? W T F ?
I havent watched since the top 24, i just come here and read MJ’s always concise coverage, than i check out the vids, and kinda hope for some miracle, but i dont see anything really amazing in the future for this group…

MAN, Idol is soooo desperate for the young viewership, that they are dissing the “older” generations. I believe in the end they will lose out. I am not watching either – will use MJs thread instead. And believe me, the younger kids aren’t watching either, because it’s IDOL. Maybe more 9 year olds will tune in. Idk – it’s depressing.

I bet the worsters are having a field day. LOL!! This is just so sad…I can’t help but laugh. And, LOL at Crystal’s status update!!!

Lordy, Lord, Lord. And ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. THe only one who will appreciate this mentor is Katie and what she needs is Alison Iraheta, not Miley Cyrus. Katie needs deprogramming, not reprogramming.

EW’s Annie Barrett weighs in http://bit.ly/bcZ9Vu

Kristen Stewart is playing Joan Jett

Well that’s even better! I’m not sure how I mixed up Kristen Stewart with Dakota Fanning…

movin2thebeat…I hope that puts Crystal in a good position to revive music. She’s not my overall favorite, but I still love her. She’s fantastic.

Here’s my 9 year old’s reaction two minutes ago when I told her Miley was going to be the mentor. “EWWWWW, why did they pick her? She doesn’t know anything about singing!”

But but but wait… Taylor Lautner sings! They can have him on!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbv7X3XHru0

He can even lip sync!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpaXHX7Nd4c

enjoy! LOL

C’mon… some of the contestants are better than Miley… wtf was American Idol thinking?

However, I am dying to know how Miley Cyrus “mentors”

Now I think about it after the initial shock, it’s TPTB’s way of saying “we don’t even care and take the show serious anymore. let’s just throw something at the wall and see what sticks.” It might work ratings-wise, if that’s the only thing they care about. Miley Cyrus certainly doesn’t bring credibility to the table.

In Simon’s words: this is a bit desperate. :-)

Baby Knows Best? Hates Miley Cyrus, Loves Bon Jovi

The suggestion that American Idol could just pretend Taylor Lautner is a singer and have him mentor the AI9 contestants is amusing, but don’t give them any ideas — they just might do it.

True! BTW, I was joking about TL- I really don’t think he should mentor. I do believe it would pull in the preteen/teen viewers…especially if he mentored shirtless. LOL

This will be perfect… Miley will mentor tomorrrow, Tim Urban will be eliminated the day after, and then we can all se how he become the next boy toy living with Miley as her boyfriend … lolol… good tv all around…

No way! Timmy boy is too young for her. Casey is more her speed.

haha will, awesome!

I’m seriously thinking of downloading “Before the Music Dies” to watch tomorrow instead of Idol (Oh but, I’d miss chat though… Gack! Decisions, decisions…) I will of course be checking MJ’s blog to keep track of the contestants who I actually care about.

Either that or I’ll start drinking early and often and make my Idol-watching a Party in the USA.

LOL, I guess we’ll see which one of the 9 contestants who are not Aaron or Katie can act! I sort of hope they gave Crystal a heads-up. Can you imagine if this was last year and the lack of poker face of Kris or Anoop?

I just noticed this. Are they fucking serious? Miley fucking Cyrus. I am going to the damn gym. Screw this show. I can’t believe this at all. Oh yeah….watch out Tim and Casey…..she’s on the prowl, certainly that’s all this can possibly be…..idol speed dating perhaps, cause she can’t teach them a damn thing about singing.

Yeah, I’m gonna need popcorn before I sit down to watch Miley & Casey. That is going to be one for the ages.

MJ really nailed it in what she wrote at the top of the page (I also agree with her 100% on her commentary on this season and its contestants in previous thread headings).

You want to know something? I am looking forward to what MJ and you guys say in this blog. And I will be more interested in what you have to say than I will be in whatever happens on AI Tuesday and Wednesday night.

Because the AI show producers are trying to tell us that the program has jumped the shark. And they are doing it in a way that we can’t ignore, in a way that no one could deny.

How sad. It was such a wonderful and semi-credible show for me.

When they have Taylor Lautner sing, without his shirt on, at some results night show — instead of some deserving AI alum — you will know that the show is on life support.

Well, we have now hit an all time low for this show. Seriously?? Seriously? Miley Cyrus? The girl who can’t sing on pitch to save her life?

All I can say is that I honestly don’t know how some of these young people are going to keep a straight face. I would fall over laughing. Most of them are far better than Miley Cyrus will ever be!

I don’t know if I am up to this.

Who was that guy at about the 2 minute mark on the BTMD’s preview? He looked like Michael Johns…

Thanks! Much more interesting than this week’s Idol….can hear it now. Ryan blasting loudly how accomplished Miley Cyrus is….click, off goes the tv.

i only started watching idol religously during season 7.. but prior seasons, im aware that american idol was super popular and classy even if i dont watch it!! they were like the best reality show ever! and not just a reality show. its like the classiest show & indestructible.. but now, oh my heck (tm archie)! are they clearing the way for Xfactor?

You know, all this being said, I’m not sure I believe any of the “mentors” actually mentor anyone. I suppose some of them may connect with one or two contestants and offer some good advice (maybe Slash with Allison for ex.), but in reality, isn’t this a way to have “oh look at these kids interacting with famous people in cute funny video clips while the famous person talks about them”. It will be telling what they’ve scripted her to say about each contestant.

in Miley’s defense I want to say that one does not have to be a singer to be a mentor to the Idol contestents. see Quentin Tarantino!
However, I believe he understands the business way better.

Taylor Lautner would be good..:)

im still f$&king pissed abput this milley (not a typo,ivr called her that since the lame joke on IGB) shit

And, I suppose that in Aaron Kelly’s 16 year-old world, , Miley Cyrus has “so much experience.” Yikes.

Didn’t she have naked pictures or something? That could be what he means >_>.

Srsly, I almost want to say Aaron lost me as a fan but that’s kinda harsh.

Also, one week we get Ke$ha, then we get Joe Jonas and Demi Lovato. God save the music industry before everybody dies.

AND Miley mentoring? Gawd. That’s like having Justin Bieber lecture on human sexuality.

I hate being a follower of music right now. I dunno, I just might cry myself to sleep tonight and dye my hair black. Nobody understands me except the skinny jeans I got from my sister and my diary. Thanks, music world, for turning me into an unnecessarily emo guy.

*sniffle*

Taylor Lautner would be good..:)

And Taylor Lautner singing without his shirt on just might happen, don’t rule it out, because it would give the show its highest ratings yet this year…I’m thinking at least 27 million viewers.

oh gosh, I just saw these tweets about the miley thing, from some dude:

The people posting about Miley need to STFU. She’s not my fav but she’s a young singer who writes her own music and is succsessful.

Plus think about the people who came out of American and how horrible they are. Miley is better than Archuletta, Barino, Aiken, etc.

Now, yeah shes had some good songs, and I own probably 3 of them, she didnt write them. I am by no means even remotely a fan of fantasia or clay, but at least they can sing.

This is whats wrong with the music industry, where people buy into the autotuned crap put out and real singing doesnt even matter anymore. It’s quite sad.

AND Miley mentoring? Gawd. That’s like having Justin Bieber lecture on human sexuality.

Or Justin Bieber lecturing guys how to shave…:)

and there were people concerned and not feeling usher [who imo is infinitely more qualified] as a mentor for these contestants? didn’t cyrus recently state she’s giving up her music career [snort] soon to pursue acting full time? lol, x100.

Funny how a tide can turn? :) Love’s ya!

I do feel the need to defend Miley’s non-singing behind just a tad. She sings no worse than J-Lo, who was also a mentor, and she has been in the business since she was what, 12? I mean PAULA ABDUL was a judge people. PAULA ABDUL. Miley can give pointers about performing – which frankly, this crew needs – and she can talk about handling the pressures of fast-paced celebrity life. So there’s that.

When Miley has as much longevity in the business as J-Lo, or Paula, who has taught/mentored some of the very best in her field, which makes her wildly capable imho, then we can talk.

I’m sure she could teach Crystal Bowersox sooo much. *eyesroll*

I love you MJ! LOL!

Ditto! See, that just might make me want to tune in…..I do have a perverse sense of humor. Maybe that’s the idea? Shit, they might be geniuses after all!

Whoa, who are the AI contestants? How many hit songs do they have? How many arenas have they sold out? Most of them this year have no professional experience, to boot. Tim Urban is too freaking great to be mentored by Miley Cyrus?

I agree it’s like a joke having Miley mentor Crystal or Casey, but whatever else she isn’t, she’s a successful music star, and whatever else they are, they’re not successful music stars — yet.

I give you two words Hillary Duff, if I recall she too filled stadiums just a few years ago…..shall we sign her up for mentoring as well?

Anyway, I’ve calmed down from my initial shock. This is actually pretty much perfect for this season. I do understand the need/desire to bring in a younger demographic, although I think it’s much too late for that. But this is exactly a commercial for The Disney Channel. I think I get it all now. Too bad we just can’t vote that Jonas guy off and Miley and never have to hear from then again. Now that would get me excited.

imagine how the AI9 idol feels right now..

i saw one of jim’s article that AI9 idols is a bit aware that they arent doing something great yet. and of course, it a pressure to them as well..

but to have miley mentor is like a big slap on the face. i kinda fear that it will lower the current idols self-esteem. like “is this how bad we are?” thing.

Let’s all remember how fabulous Miley was when she performed on Idol Gives Back during S7!

See You Again

One of the Greatest Epic Trainwrecks in the history of guest performers on the show!

Miley’s only being brought in as “mentor” because she has a film and new single out, which seemed to be the case with other past mentors. She’ll probably just give a crooked smile as the contestants go through their staged rehearsal(internally eye-rolling)and then Miley will get a boatload more downloads afterward…then everyone on the show agrees never to speak of it again.

AI cares very little about having appropriate mentors. As with anything, it’s ALL about the money.

WTH?

The message from the AI producers is actually pretty clear. They don’t want more “older” viewers like the Cougars for Cook. They want more younger viewers. I also don’t think it is safe to assume that this show has huge “tween” viewers anymore. Show me the numbers for viewers in this age bracket. I bet they have tumbled in the same way as the 18-49 viewers. The posters on this site may not think much about “tweens” but the reality is that marketers covet them more than older viewers and the producers know this. If the show can’t demonstrate high ratings for this group, this will affect the ad money the show can generate. For this reason also, Miley, Joe Jonas and Demi make total sense. After last week’s ratings disaster, the show desperately needs to prove that it can pull in younger viewers.

AI cares very little about having appropriate mentors. As with anything, it’s ALL about the money.

Right.

Wow, I bet the house on Justin Bieber. Oh well, Miley, ex bf Joe and his current gf Demi will bring some interest among the tweens. Anything to get a ratings boost.

I don’t really have anything to add. I’m not quite sure what pearls Miley has to share.

Eh. Miley will bring in some of the younger audience. Why not? Certainly more appealing than some of the crypt keepers they have had on. Anybody remember what horrific things that Kenny Rogers had done to his face? When did he last have a relevant song? Jennifer Lopez was on a few years ago and she certainly doesn’t bring much more to the table than Miley. This show isn’t all about singing, it’s also about getting people to pay attention to you and Miley has done that.

Yup. The idol producers would have been nuts to turn down Miley appearing. At least she is making music now, but some will always pine for their hall and oates type mentors…

AI cares very little about having appropriate mentors.

Yup, they never have cared; why start now???? And remember all the mentors who were hideous! The mentor who actually mentors has been the exception, not the rule. Mostly a photo-op. This one at least has humor going for it.

I just told my 14 y/o son that Miley Cirus is the guest mentor this week. His response was “She doesn’t have any talent, though. What’s she going to teach them, how to jump around on stage and lip synch?”

I just about spit out my drink on that response.

Hannah Montana the show appeals to pre-teens, yeah, but I know plenty of 16-18-year olds who like Miley, JoBros. Heck, a lot of my top 40 loving 20-something friends love Party In the USA. Heck, who am I kidding, as much as I hate her voice, I loved The Climb, and enjoyed the Hannah Montana movie as a cheesy guilty pleasure, and may check out Last Song at some point. I can’t believe I just admitted that.

Yup, I’m 22 and not afraid to say I saw the Hannah Montana movie as a guilty pleasure (and loved it). Older generations had silly pop they listened to also back in the day.

Miley mentoring makes me wish Lilly were there. I have a feeling things would go disastrous and end up in Lilly’s favor, but it would be at Lilly’s expense…..

They just need to bring Jamie Foxx back but not let him perform unless he does Don’t Let The Sun Go Down (his song, not the Elton John song, both are totally different). The likelihood of this happening is definitely zero but it would be better than Miley….

I want to see what Miley says to Crystal.

I don’t have as much issue with Miley mentoring as I do with Joe performing. He sucks. I dunno, as much as I’m ragging on her there’s the very distinct possibility that she will say something smart.

Yup, I’m 22 and not afraid to say I saw the Hannah Montana movie as a guilty pleasure (and loved it). Older generations had silly pop they listened to also back in the day.

Oh, older generations had worse than that; they had movies like Beach Blanket Bingo where they broke out in song in the the middle. Every generation has a little something to live down. Um, usually more than a little something.

Unfortunately all “the good stuff” will be edited out, probably just end up with a still shot of Miley with Crystal. Can’t wait to see why theme was changed. Usher is fine-just no Beiber please. There will be no group song again this week as all the auto tune equipment is being used by the guests.

Oh, older generations had worse than that; they had movies like Beach Blanket Bingo where they broke out in song in the the middle.

I think they were called musicals…

The message from the AI producers is actually pretty clear. They don’t want more “older” viewers like the Cougars for Cook. They want more younger viewers. I also don’t think it is safe to assume that this show has huge “tween” viewers anymore. Show me the numbers for viewers in this age bracket. I bet they have tumbled in the same way as the 18-49 viewers. The posters on this site may not think much about “tweens” but the reality is that marketers covet them more than older viewers and the producers know this. If the show can’t demonstrate high ratings for this group, this will affect the ad money the show can generate. For this reason also, Miley, Joe Jonas and Demi make total sense. After last week’s ratings disaster, the show desperately needs to prove that it can pull in younger viewers.

I’m inclined to agree that they definitely seem to want a younger audience…but then they’re kinda picking the wrong contestants for the show. I know Katie and Aaron are young, but nothing about them has a “star” written on them. If they want want a younger audience, then pick contestants that you think will appeal to a younger audience.

I’m the first to admit this season is a snooze, but in all honesty I can’t see one of them appealing to a younger crowd. If they want Lady Gaga, Bieber(god why?), or the likes of the guest performances on results night, then the contestants should match that caliber if that’s what they are aiming for. At this rate, the younger audience will tune in to see Demi, Miley and Joe Jonas perform, and promptly tune out. I was a teen once too…and I learned quickly how to cut through the crap to see what I wanted…kinda like what I do with the results show now. :)

I don’t necessarily understand the point of just having guest performers on to raise ratings, because for as quickly as they perform it won’t raise them much. There has to be good contestants to go along with it.

I think they were called musicals…

Damn! Is that what they were?? Deep!!!!!

A lot of teens and tweens hate Miley Cyrus(thays what I noticed at Middle School,bit just among my friends)

A lot of teens and tweens hate Miley Cyrus(thays what I noticed at Middle School,bit just among my friends)

Exactly. I think they tune out at probably 9 or 10. The ones I see into Miley are 9 and under and their prime television viewing is Disney channel and love Hannah Montana.

OK I got it I want Andrew Garcia to do a stripped down slower dark version of “Party in the U.S.A.” so that we can hear the deep lyrics!!! Or Crystal do a cynical version, or Siobhan do a very dark version or Tim do a clueless version…opps that been done. Someone please do this song, but this plea does not go out to the others.

I cannot believe my good fortune, not to have watched a single performance episode this season and now not needing to decide whether this is the week to start. :-)

I want to ask all those complaining, did you have a problem with Quentin Tarantino mentoring, since he isn’t even a singer? Slash is not a vocalist but you all seemed to love him? Considering that, I really don’t think it is the singing thing that really raises peoples ire. I think something about perky cute teen girls makes some people irrationally mad, and I find it fascinating because I have no idea what it is.

Oh, older generations had worse than that; they had movies like Beach Blanket Bingo where they broke out in song in the the middle.

Ha Ha, have you ever seen 42nd Street, The Gold Diggers Of 1933, or Dames? Now THAT’S entertainment!

well, my generation gave the world michael jackson, the clash, the sex pistols,george michael, prince, david bowie, led zeppelin, stevie ray vaughan, whitney houston and tons of other greats sandwiched in with the cheese of the osmonds, leif garret and others, so i think we still have it all over this generation who will grow up thinking the miley cyrus’s of the world are the be and end all of music.

well, my generation gave the world michael jackson, the clash, the sex pistols,george michael, prince, david bowie, led zeppelin, stevie ray vaughan, whitney houston and tons of other greats sandwiched in with the cheese of the osmonds, leif garret and others, so i think we still have it all over this generation who will grow up thinking the miley cyrus’s of the world are the be and end all of music.

Um, the artists you listed were popular in different decades…

hi gangreen – they are of my generation – music that i listened to from an early age, through my teens and young adult years… real musicians, real artists… i’m not a baby, but i’m no old fogey either, so i can lay claim to each of these artists being of my generation… doubtful we will see their like again if the kesha, the miley’s, the gaga’s and others keep being pushed as real music…

If Miley was to perform on the show, I’d probably roll my eyes, then mute the TV, but I woudn’t get that upset. To consider a 17 year old girl who made her ‘fame’ through a lame TV show to be a mentor on the most watched singing competition in the world is a joke and an insult to thinking and music-loving individuals everywhere. She’s been a recording ‘artist’ for less than 4 years! Might as well skip the singing part of this competition altogether, and just get real – it’s how to be an American Star. The singing can be fixed with technology nowadays, as long as you’re in the ball park. Then the mentors could help the contestants on how to project attitude and build a franchise (Miley is great at this), how to deal with paparazzi (get Lindsay Lohan on the phone, pronto!), how to apply makeup (get Adam in there for this), how to work a stage and look like you’re singing (calling on Britney!). If that’s what America wants now, then sure, Miley’s your gal. I do not have to like that that’s what the music industry has come down to, but…as Crystal says, check out the video. Talent is now not nearly valued as image.

Sorry,I meant NOT among my friends

I have no problem with people who can’t sing ( i <3 justin bieber) or perky teenage girls (i like selena gomez).The only person I have a problem with is Miley Cyrus…

If Miley was to perform on the show, I’d probably roll my eyes, then mute the TV, but I woudn’t get that upset. To consider a 17 year old girl who made her ‘fame’ through a lame TV show to be a mentor on the most watched singing competition in the world is a joke and an insult to thinking and music-loving individuals everywhere.

can i get an amen, lol… i consider myself a music fan 1st, an idol fan somewhere down the list, so that’s where the heartburn in this whole deal lies for me.

The only person I have a problem with is Miley Cyrus…

But why luv, she seems nice to me? Did you see the Hannah Montana movie? It will change your opinion of her.

gangreen29:
03/22/2010 at 8:30 pm
I want to ask all those complaining, did you have a problem with Quentin Tarantino mentoring, since he isn’t even a singer? Slash is not a vocalist but you all seemed to love him? Considering that, I really don’t think it is the singing thing that really raises peoples ire. I think something about perky cute teen girls makes some people irrationally mad, and I find it fascinating because I have no idea what it is.

My issue is that neither Quentin nor Slash came on the show presenting themselves as singers.

And gg…don’t be dissin’ the Osmonds. I might have to hit you with a “Gee Your Hair Smells Terrific” shampoo bottle.

hi gangreen – they are of my generation – music that i listened to from an early age, through my teens and young adult years… real musicians, real artists… i’m not a baby, but i’m no old fogey either, so i can lay claim to each of these artists being of my generation… doubtful we will see their like again if the kesha, the miley’s, the gaga’s and others keep being pushed as real music…

But there is great music out there that isn’t cheesy stuff like Kesha and Miley. Were people this angry about Tiffany or New Kids on the Block or Shawn Cassidy? I don’t think the bubblegum stuff should be representative of the whole current music scene.

And gg…don’t be dissin’ the Osmonds. I might have to hit you with a “Gee Your Hair Smells Terrific” shampoo bottle.

lolol… i was a jackson 5 lover, and the osmonds to us were mortal enemies then, lolol… i’ve gotten over most of those feelings for them now, but back then – no love atall for them, hahaha…

Hahaha now I have “The Right Stuff” stuck in my head……lol

I don’t think the bubblegum stuff should be representative of the whole current music scene.

it shouldn’t be, but tell that to some really great singers and artists today who radio ignores, or who don’t get the press they deserve or the respect they deserve because radio and the media are deciding who is hot, who is not and basing that on everything but the music, or real talent. i know life isn’t fair, but there was a time, and not that long ago, when there was room for these young artists, and other types of artists on top 40 radio. autotune or something happened to take the singing and the talent and the real artistry out of what gets heard and the exposure today, making it harder for someone to get a break that doesn’t fit the image or the template of what these people would have us believe is ”hot”, or making music that is ”in”.. i shudder to think what could have been if some great artists and icons we’re aware of now had come along during this age of autotune and a totally image driven recording industry.

I see there is still misinformation circulating about Slash. You may not believe it, but Slash was lead singer on Guns N’Roses’ hit, Civil War.

I don’t expect you to know this, because this took place in the 1980s, before you were born.

This is sad. Miley’s not an artist I have much respect for. Just glad she wasn’t a mentor last year. Most of those contestants could have mentored her.

It’s not that Miley can’t sing, is a manufactured star by Disney, would not be there if not for daddy, etc. (Or that her speaking voice grates on every one of my nerves.) I could handle all those things, if she was just appearing and singing.
But she is “mentoring!” Mentoring! It’s just so wrong on every level! :(

I see there is still misinformation circulating about Slash. You may not believe it, but Slash was lead singer on Guns N’Roses’ hit, Civil War.

Are you sure? I can’t find anything online about this and all the concert videos I just looked at were not Slash singing..Also, if he was this great vocalist then why is he bringing on so many people to sing on his solo album?

Argh! Miley Cyrus, of all people?! NOT looking forward to it. And those people performing on the results shows aren’t much better.

I still wish the theme had remained as ‘Teen Idol’ week.

On the positive side, it has freed up an hour of my time on Wednesday to finish my taxes!

i think ai producers are very creative and def have a clear vision about this season. now i don’t need to debate between watching ai or lost.

I don’t get on the internet for one day and this is what I come to. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! Miley f-ing Cyrus, are you kidding me? If they were going to have all teen stars on the show, why didn’t they keep the theme to Teen Idols week? Out off all the mentors, this is the VERY BEST the producers can come up??? They must be high or something. I can’t believe this crap. I would take Andrew Lloyd Weber any day.

HERE are some mentoring suggestions producers:

1. EX-idols that are successful now, Carrie, Kelly, Daughtry, and J-Hud. They have been though it and I think they can give the contestants the best advice.

2. People I would like to see Madonna, Cyndi Lauper, and anyone with real experience.

3. You want younger then go with someone like Alicia Keys, Beyonce, Justin Timberlake, Usher, Lady Gaga, and for real laughs bring on Kanye and Snoop Dogg. Come on producers, you can do better than that.

LOL, I can’t wait to see the look on all the idols faces. hahahah It’s going to be a train wreck. I can’t believe this crude….

The message from the AI producers is actually pretty clear. They don’t want more “older” viewers like the Cougars for Cook. They want more younger viewers. I also don’t think it is safe to assume that this show has huge “tween” viewers anymore.

ITA- Last year they had Lady GaGa and Katy Perry. I am hoping they continue with this trend. I don’t mind have Miley on because she is a best selling artist right now, but I don’t like her as a mentor. As I said upthread, she is where she is because her dad is a country music star. In fact, I would rather have Joe Jonas as a mentor. I do believe he and his brothers did break into the business without family connections.

Is this the first time they’ve ever had a teen mentor? I think it would be more relevant to have Archie mentor because, although he is not selling records like Miley, he does have AI experience which I think would really be helpful to the contestants. Plus he is an excellent vocalist with years of training and I think he could really give the idols some solid advice.

I would love for them to have somebody like Billy Joe Armstrong as a mentor. Someone whos has years of experience, but still appeals to a younger demographic. He is an idol fan, so, who knows?

Are you sure? I can’t find anything online about this and all the concert videos I just looked at were not Slash singing..Also, if he was this great vocalist then why is he bringing on so many people to sing on his solo album?

It only took me a couple of minutes to find a YouTube video of Slash singing “Civil War”; it’s from an Italian website. Here’s the link:

http://video.aol.fr/video-detail/civil-war-guns-nroses-sott-italiano/2871406192

That is Slash singing from .37 to 1.22. Axl Rose comes in for a verse or two, and then it goes back to Slash and back to Axl again.

Slash is officially listed as the “lead guitarist”, which is true. But he was also the lead singer, not Axl.

I never said Slash was a great vocalist. He would probably disagree with that one too.

I have no idea what is behind his hiring decisions on his solo album.

But to say Slash is not a vocalist is untrue.

it shouldn’t be, but tell that to some really great singers and artists today who radio ignores, or who don’t get the press they deserve or the respect they deserve because radio and the media are deciding who is hot, who is not and basing that on everything but the music, or real talent. i know life isn’t fair, but there was a time, and not that long ago, when there was room for these young artists, and other types of artists on top 40 radio. autotune or something happened to take the singing and the talent and the real artistry out of what gets heard and the exposure today, making it harder for someone to get a break that doesn’t fit the image or the template of what these people would have us believe is ”hot”, or making music that is ”in”.. i shudder to think what could have been if some great artists and icons we’re aware of now had come along during this age of autotune and a totally image driven recording industry.

gg- Amen to this. At least I can stomach Miley more than Beiber!

We need to start choosing the words for the Drinking Game. Because that is going to be critical to surviving the episode. That, and trying to picture the look on Crystal’s face during her mentoring session with Miley.

My suggestions:

“Try hunching your shoulders a little more.”

“Get your daddy to call the Disney people.”

“Have you thought about dancing around a pole?”

“Honey, that artistry stuff is really overrated, lose the guitar.”

“When I want to make something my own, I add a few hair extensions.”

kinda random but i have siobhan’s paint it black on repeat and its amazing

But why luv, she seems nice to me? Did you see the Hannah Montana movie? It will change your opinion of her.

where do i begin?? Ok, at first i loved her,not nearly as much as i love adam,but i REALLY LOVED miley cyrus.I still like some of her music.In 3rd grade,when she started,I wanted to be just like her.Then,I started hating her.A lot.By 5th grade I despised her.She was ..,descipable.I dont’t even know how to describe why i hate her so much..but….to me, without exaggerating, she’s everything that’s wromg with the world.

fanaround:
03/22/2010 at 7:19 pm

You know, all this being said, I’m not sure I believe any of the “mentors” actually mentor anyone. I suppose some of them may connect with one or two contestants and offer some good advice (maybe Slash with Allison for ex.), but in reality, isn’t this a way to have “oh look at these kids interacting with famous people in cute funny video clips while the famous person talks about them”. It will be telling what they’ve scripted her to say about each contestant.

I agree completely, that’s why I am not up in arms because of Miley mentoring.

gangreen29:
03/22/2010 at 9:29 pm

I see there is still misinformation circulating about Slash. You may not believe it, but Slash was lead singer on Guns N’Roses’ hit, Civil War.

Are you sure? I can’t find anything online about this and all the concert videos I just looked at were not Slash singing..Also, if he was this great vocalist then why is he bringing on so many people to sing on his solo album?

Slash never did any lead studio vocals for Guns. The only time Slash sang lead was when Axl was late to a show, I forgot the city(I knew it too) and the song was “Its So Easy.” Full song.

If anybody wants to know anything GnR, let me know. ;
:the wink smiley escapes me: lol

Oh Luv
I just love your posts :)
I would totally kidnap you and have you live with me so we could go see Adam together…if it wernt for those pesky laws about that sorta thing.

GaryJ, Slash isn’t a vocalist, but a backing vocalist. He does some screaming every now and then – like at the beginning of Reckless Life – but never a lead vocalist for any studio release, even for his own album coming out in April.
His First single “By the Sword” kicks ass, and I believe at one point or another Idol may invite him back to promote his own material – last year he was in the middle of putting together his album, thereby doing Alice Cooper for the show.

A light bulb just came on for me as a result of luvadamlambert’s post. Thanks! It’s the old maxim that any PR is good PR. It’s been true on Idol that the most talked about ones appear to stay on the show (for now), regardless if the talk is positive or negative. Clearly Miley is a lightning rod for opinions – love her or hate her. So Idol is just choosing a lightning rod mentor – for ratings. They probably don’t much care if the yack is positive or negative as long as people are talking. After all, watching trips and falls can be entertaining. It’s just too bad its what American Idol has devolved into to. It does look more and more like this season is paving the way for Simon’s X Factor – either that or some mutated version of American Idol thats heavy on the sensationalism, and lighter on the talent. In other words, it’ll be closer to all the other crappy reality shows that people are eating up.

Civil War is all Axl, and that was in the 90′s. I liked Slash alright as a mentor. Maybe he isn’t a singer, but I’m sure the guy has seen all sorts of wannabee stars try and make it over the years. He had some good advice, from what I remember.

I think Miley could be quite entertaining. Maybe a discussion on high notes with Siobhan? I do expect some carefully cut rehearsal video.

Jon Bon Jovi remains my favorite mentor.

…if it wernt for those pesky laws about that sorta thing

:-)

movin2thabeat,i see your point,I think this is the first time in a long time yahoo!, or any other major website has a story on their front pagr about an AI mentor (before the show)

ITA about bon jovi willis

At least I can stomach Miley more than Beiber!

I know fetus(or as I like to call him, 6 year old lesbian) isn’t popular on MJ’s but as far as teen stars go he’s not that bad. He writes a good amount of his own music, plays a shitload of instruments, dances decently, and sings decently(for the most part) IMO I’d rather fetus then someone who cant sing, can’t act, can’t write, and pretty much can’t do anything. JMO though

Actually, I think Miley sings better than “fetus”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZUWMoCihZQ

in Miley’s defense I want to say that one does not have to be a singer to be a mentor to the Idol contestents. see Quentin Tarantino!
However, I believe he understands the business way better.

That’s a defense? Quentin had absolutely no business being a mentor, and I’m sure he knew it. He should have turned that gig down. It was embarrassing.

They probably kept the mentor a “secret” so that 3/4 of the Idol contestants wouldn’t be on suicide watch before the big meet-up. Miley is sort of a genius at singing and acting compared to Joe Jonas, so at least she has that going for her.

i FLIVE justin bieber <3

LK09:
03/22/2010 at 11:03 pm
Actually, I think Miley sings better than “fetus”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZUWMoCihZQ

to qoute myself sings decently (for the most part)

I don’t think the kids a amazing singer but for the most part he sings pretty well. I’m not denying that “no air” was a hot mess. but most of his other perfomances have been good.

and its not that he’s always terrible. These ones are pretty good
baby</ and he can do stipped down perfomances well like this one

agani nothing amazing but decent and better then anything cyrus has ever done IMO. but YMMV

hey, does anybody else call this kid fetus, other than us and Cantiello?
It’d be funny if it catches world wide. lol

Somewhat off=topic, but Casey just tweeted that they are about to record the group song. So that means more lip-synching? Oy vey.

ETA: Or do they record the group song for iTunes? He said they were “heading to Ricky Miners” (meaning Ricky Minor’s) to record it.

Okay that was a epic quote/link fail.

Rub I have heard quite a few people call him the fetus with hair on twitter (sorry luv)

Luv have you seen the video of Beiber and Adam backstage at one of those Z100 jingle ball shows?

fanaround:
03/22/2010 at 7:19 pm

You know, all this being said, I’m not sure I believe any of the “mentors” actually mentor anyone. I suppose some of them may connect with one or two contestants and offer some good advice (maybe Slash with Allison for ex.), but in reality, isn’t this a way to have “oh look at these kids interacting with famous people in cute funny video clips while the famous person talks about them”. It will be telling what they’ve scripted her to say about each contestant.

well, let’s see, I can remember Barry Manillow actually being an incredible mentor. He worked with the key in which they sang, beat, and how to start a song. He was awesome and actually flew back again on his own time.

David Foster, who I can’t stand, did some mentoring. He had Daughtry laying on the floor to help him. I believe it was Foster, it was all the way back in season 5.
Those two stick out in my mind. I’m sure there are more.

How the heck can someone be a mentor who doesn’t know crap about singing or music? Worst singer evah…..well, then there is Taylor Swift and Britney Spears. Hey, have them all on one show and maybe an idea will form between them all.

They probably changed the theme because Miley knows nothing about the great teen idols of yore.

I guess TPTB feel a connection between the Cyrus name and idol since no new country artist -before Gokey- has debuted with higher sales in country since Billy Ray. So blame Danny. LOL, joke of course.

Let’s not forget that not many mentors (at least from what I’ve seen), really mentor.

Personally, I think the whole thing will be pretty interesting. Oh, and maybe Crystal can teach Miley something. :D

I will sit back and enjoy this show tom. through my tween daughter’s eyes. ;)

Among other things, something very sad about AI powers taking this show down the tubes is that it tarnishes the show’s image in ways that can impact the images of some of the wonderful Idols of previous seasons.* Idols who will forever be associated (to one degree or another) with their run — or win — on AI.

AI could choose to be classy but it’s looking increasingly trashy.

*note: and also this season, I guess. Just haven’t seen much wonderful yet.

p.s. Randy, you’re too good for this show. Always my favorite judge.

I can’t believe just yesterday on the previous post I mentioned thank goodness Miley wasn’t the mentor but just performing… Now we have to see a bunch of twenty yr olds nodding along to a 16 yr old pop star,aside from Katie and Aaron who were probably ecstatic to see a legend of their lifetime.
If they were going to have all these teenage stars appear this week, they might as well have left it as Teen idol theme!

Just saw Lacey Brown on Letterman and WOW. She looked and sounded incredible. Susanna Hoffs!!!

Ahhh, I just thought of something amazing. What if the group song was Hoedown Throwdown!

wow, quite the lively thread goin here! i dunno – this show has had barry manilow and burt bachrach, flo rida, and gaga…miley’s young, been in the business, sorta raised by the business. makes for good tv i guess. my only question is – can she use a guitar? that’s all that reallly matters.

hey, does anybody else call this kid fetus, other than us and Cantiello?
It’d be funny if it catches world wide. lol

It’s not just us and Jim, see 1:14 here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pndFUo6dCWQ&feature=player_embedded#

What fresh hell is this? You know how sometimes there’s a voice that hits you like nails on a chalkboard every time it comes on the radio? Go away Miley.

I told my mom about all this stuff and it was the most irritated I’ve seen her lately. It was kinda scary.

Miley Cyrus, huh? Yeesh! First time I ever considered using the word ‘barf’ in a comment (or as a figure of speech at all, come to think of it). Could be worse, I suppose. They could have roped in Britney Spears (with or w/o snake).

Does anyone really think this about providing the performers with insight and wisdom? Or Is it more that the Producers think that Aaron and Tim in the top 12 = an audience under 12? And therefore they’re simply catering to their audience and boosting ratings. Since allot of us have maybe 2 episodes of interest left in these people, it seems kinda smart?

Sorry I know this off topic, but I have to ask, so my niece will zip-it. Do they do this “Who Left Too Soon” poll on their homepage every season? I think her friends are texting her that they may be hinting a twist or something to the Top 10…

Poor thing, she so bored with Lily and Alex gone, she grasping at anything for excitement.

has there ever been a teen idol who adults didn’t rake over the coals during their prime???
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in the non-AI world,
coach = teaches techniques of the craft
mentor = guides in money-related matters
(e.g. i mentor marathon runners in raising funds for charity, but i don’t coach them on running technique).

miley isn’t as good a singer as any of this year’s top 24, but she’s way ahead of them WRT making money in the music industry, and that’s what these kids are on AI for, not to hone their craft (though this is a side benefit).

miley can teach our finalists how to be the offspring of a country one-hit-wonder and land disney deals through daddy’s connections.
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before the music dies is on hulu, in its SXSW collection
http://www.hulu.com/watch/62945/before-the-music-dies

I downloaded Before the Music Dies from iTunes and watched it last night. It’s an excellent documentary and I can’t help wondering if Crystal and at least a few of the others are wondering if they made a mistake coming on the show this season. Unfortunately, the recording industry may be a necessary evil for artists at least to start if the goal is making a living at music, but new technologies are making the old business model obsolete. Honestly, maybe it will be for the best if the real musicians among this season’s cast don’t win.

As for the future of American Idol and X-Factor… I think American Idol gives good exposure to new artists and provides entertainment for the TV audience but it has become a giant commercial or product placement with a little music thrown in. I don’t know how popular X-Factor is in the UK but I wonder if another show about the worst aspects of fabricating a pop star is really going to do that well. Maybe with X-Factor on the horizon, American Idol can become an artists showcase for real next season. I won’t hold my breath waiting for it to happen.

Ahhh, I just thought of something amazing. What if the group song was Hoedown Throwdown!

NGL… I have that song. lol

Miley Cirus cannot sing. Period.

There are lots of teen idols, past and present, that would have done a great job here. I think it would have been interesting to have current and past teen idols appear… one to pull in the young demographic, and another to actually mentor the kids on how to have a real career in the industry beyond idol-dom.

But Miley CANNOT SING!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikes!

I think Idol has achieved its goal of getting us talking about the show. There will be lots of people watching and waiting for a diaster. I bet the producers are jumping for joy.

I think Miley could be quite entertaining. Maybe a discussion on high notes with Siobhan? I do expect some carefully cut rehearsal video.

Oh, you better believe it. I think the contestants have been informed to make up something good to say about Miley. Maybe a script will be provided? Will she sing live?

I think my 6 year-old Granddaughter will be pleased!

I think this is a smart move!!
I watched guest stars like Kesha and Orianthi, and now we’ll have Miley as the mentor. It makes me appreciate the talent of the idols more.
Before this I always compare S9 with S8 & S7, and IMO S9 sucks!
But now I’m comparing the finalists with the Pop Stars who have been all over the chart, sold millions copies of songs and I’d rather hear those idols than kesha or miley or orianthi (but her guitar playing rocks!!!!)
So it’s a good PR move from the producers, no? :)

I think those guest stars prove what good management can bring to ANY person who wants to be a singer. No need to pay your dues.

Ultra-desirable baby demographic not that thrilled with Miley:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/22/baby-hates-miley-cyrus-lo_n_508280.html

Shoot me now, Miley Cyrus as mentor and a Jonas brother? Shudder.

I posted a link to this yesterday, but you guys have to read this. Interview with Parade magazine. The girl is an asshole.

http://www.parade.com/celebrity/celebrity-parade/2010/0317-miley-cyrus-web-exclusive.html

Miley Cyrus: Country Music ‘Feels Contrived On So Many Levels’
by Kevin Sessums

In this week’s issue of PARADE, Miley Cyrus talks to Kevin Sessums about saying farewell to her alter ego Hannah Montana and her new love Liam Hemsworth. In the web exclusive below, the teen queen admits why she’s steering clear of the country music scene, the real reason she quit Twitter and more.

Has her high energy ever been mistaken for ADD or ADHD?
“When I was in middle school I was told I might have one of those and if I were in high school now they would most likely tell me I do have one or both of those and put me on some sort of crazy medication.”

Miley lets her hair down! See exclusive photos from PARADE’s glamorous Cyrus photo shoot

Moving beyond her high-energy reputation.
“When I was eight years old, people were going, ‘Oh, my God. She’s crazy! What’s she going to be like when she’s 17?’ Well I’m 17 now and I’m doing pretty well for whatever it is that I am.”??

Finding unbiased love with Liam Helmsworth.
“[Liam has] become my best friend in the whole wide world. I love him. He really respects me for who I am because coming from Australia, he really didn’t know me as the celebrity I am here. I got to tell him about myself on my own terms and my own way. He had no preconceived notion of who I was supposed to be.”

Tapping into her grandfather’s political legacy.
“My character’s name [in The Last Song] is Ronnie and that is in memory of my grandfather, Ron Cyrus, who died a couple of years ago from lung cancer. He was a politician in Kentucky and served in the state legislature for 21 years. A Democrat. I recently did a concert in Washington D.C. and I met all these people who knew my grandfather and told me what he had meant to them.”??

Did the Obama girls come to the concert?
“Yes. The First Lady brought them. I had met them before because I sang at the inauguration. I think Michelle Obama is the most beautiful person to ever live in the White House. When she came to my concert she was dressed so classy and yet funky. I didn’t feel like I was talking to the First Lady. I just felt like I was talking to a normal person. I think that’s what’s so attractive about that whole family.” ??

Having Dolly Parton as her godmother.
“She is the nicest person in the world. She’s so easy to talk to. She’s awesome. I love her. She always tells me just to do what I love and if I’m not having fun it’s not working. I don’t know how old she is at this point but every time she is on the stage she is smiling from ear to ear.”

What she thinks of music’s latest sensation, Lady Gaga.
“I love her. She’s really smart. I caught her on Oprah and she was really chill. I used to be like, yeah, I guess she’s talented but how much is she really singing. But I’ve become a convert. She has to be smart to come up with all her gags and the stuff she comes up with. She gets it. She knows exactly what she’s doing. It’s like Dolly Parton. Dolly plays up that I’m-a-cute-dumb-blonde but, believe me, she’s not dumb. She’s sitting on a ba-jillion dollars.”??

What she’s watching — and not watching — on TV.
“I am screwed up in the mind a little bit because I’m not like other 16- or 17-year-old girls. I have no perspective of who exactly my fans are, to tell you the truth. Teenage girls in general are hard for me. I’m not a girl’s girl. And I don’t really watch television at all. But there is one show I’m addicted to: RuPaul’s Drag Race. I love me some RuPaul. I love RuPaul’s motto. It goes something like, ‘A real lady is never bitchy, a real lady is sassy.’”? ?

Why she’s steering clear of the country scene.
“It scares me, that’s why. It feels contrived on so many levels. Unless you’re wearing a cowboy hat and cowboy boots and singing and whining about your girlfriend or boyfriend leaving you it’s not going to sell. I think that’s why my dad finally got out of it. You have to wear those cowboy boots and be sweet as pie. It makes me nervous, the politics of it all.

Her relationship with the ever-present paparazzi.
“The other day I felt a little bit in danger for the first time because there were too many photographers following me in too many cars. And I have to ask myself, ‘Why would any other 50-year-old man who was stalking a 17-year-old girl go to jail, but not these guys? I’m not as American as anyone else?’ I mean, they couldn’t sit outside of a high school but they can sit outside my recording studio. It’s creepy.”

Knowing her faith.
“The one thing I’m really strong about regarding my religious beliefs is that you should know a little bit about everything before you define your own beliefs. I think all religions have a good practice in them. Liam and I have been reading about Buddhism lately and it’s all about hope and love. To me, faith is about having a clean slate and a clean start.”

Making mistakes and learning the power of forgiveness.
“You don’t have to say, ‘Well, I’m already a bad person so I might as well go ahead and do this other bad thing.’ It’s about knowing sometime that what you did wasn’t always the best choice but you now have the chance to start over again. That’s the biggest thing to me about my faith: you don’t have to live tallying up all the things you’ve done wrong. It’s all about forgiveness. If God who created the world can forgive you then you can forgive yourself.”

Tweeting up controversy.
“There has been so much controversy sometimes about what I’ve said or done because I believe there are no mistakes because God is the only one who can judge us. That’s the reason I deleted my Twitter account because I said on there that I believed in gay marriage because everyone should have the right to love each other, and I got such hate mail about my being a bad person.”

Ok you guys don’t hate me but I’m kinda sorta in a way looking forward to tonight’s show with Miley. I think it will be all sorts of weird and funny. :)

What she thinks of music’s latest sensation, Lady Gaga.
“I love her. She’s really smart. I caught her on Oprah and she was really chill. I used to be like, yeah, I guess she’s talented but how much is she really singing. But I’ve become a convert. She has to be smart to come up with all her gags and the stuff she comes up with. She gets it. She knows exactly what she’s doing. It’s like Dolly Parton. Dolly plays up that I’m-a-cute-dumb-blonde but, believe me, she’s not dumb. She’s sitting on a ba-jillion dollars.”??

RAGE! Why do I get the feeling she doesn’t get it? Not everything is about the money. I’m sorry but she really sounds like a self absorbed teenager than a *supa star*

Don’t you love how she hates country music, but Dolly is her godmother. And the insinuation that Dolly is old. And her father “got out” of country. More like they kicked him out since he was a one hit wonder. Wasn’t he the MC (and a rather bad one) on a country talent show not too long ago. Yea, he “got out”.

Thoughtful post MaryS-NJ 03/23/2010 at 7:14 am.

AI is so contrived that I don’t trust that even Crystal’s tweet was not part of “the plan.” The Miley thing is to draw attention and get people talking about the show. The producers think that any publicity is a good thing.

I’m especially sorry for some past Idols who stand to lose in the public eye as AI’s image becomes further tarnished.

Whomever has been selecting the cast for this reality show has some weird ideas and insults viewers.

Maybe with X-Factor on the horizon, American Idol can become an artists showcase for real next season.I won’t hold my breath waiting for it to happen.

Would be nice but seems very unlikely. AI as an untainted concept is a neat thing. I won’t be watching X-Factor. I don’t care for Simon C. or the concept. Is the dumb reality tv craze ever gonna end?

Grammie Kari:
03/23/2010 at 7:50 am
I think Idol has achieved its goal of getting us talking about the show. There will be lots of people watching and waiting for a diaster. I bet the producers are jumping for joy.

I must agree here. As you have stated, “lots watching” making for better ratings and that has what the show’s premise has become lately unfortunately. In as much as I don’t care for the girl and feel she’s a very nasally singer, she has had success (give credit where credit is due).Her speaking voice is even annoying, maybe she has a nasal condition (seriously, it could be medical). She’s still not my cuppa.

At any rate, I guess we’ll see tonight how entertained we will all be. Enjoy the show!

RAGE! Why do I get the feeling she doesn’t get it? Not everything is about the money. I’m sorry but she really sounds like a self absorbed teenager than a *supa star*

So you think Lady Gaga isn’t about the money, at all? From where I sit, Miley Cyrus is a pretty smart gal. ;)

I will never, ever believe wanting to be a superstar does not equal money. If not about the money itself, then about the things that money can buy…

I will never, ever believe wanting to be a superstar does not equal money. If not about the money itself, then about the things that money can buy…

Yup, and it is the same reason every single contestant has ever been on idol.

Yup, and it is the same reason every single contestant has ever been on idol.

I actually disagree with this. I don’t think Kris Allen wants to be a super star. However, in the words of George Bailey, (It’s a Wonderful Life)to Clarence re: money, “Well it comes in pretty handy down here bub.” Money as a way to support yourself is one thing, it’s another when it has to do with power/ super stardom. Of course this is JMO.

I’d say the same about Crystal and DC. Perhaps others as well. Of course, I don’t know these people personally, and this is not to say they will always remain this way.

Making enough money to support themselves and getting their music beyond bars in Omaha and Kalamazoo seemed like enough for quite a few of the contestants who have been on idol. For some it seems like a last resort for an opportunity to make a living at their craft.

You know, all this being said, I’m not sure I believe any of the “mentors” actually mentor anyone.

Nevertheless, it’s one thing for them to bring in someone who has the *goods* to do mentoring, but then just craps out and doesn’t bother. And another for them to bring in someone who really only knows how to become a top-selling musician by first starring on a kiddie show. ….

A lot of the mentors have annoyed the heck out of me because I saw them as just going onto I’m-selling-my-record-by-being-on-here autopilot and not caring to impart any of their experience. (But many have not, also. Seems to me that Lulu and Peter Noone and Andrew Lloyd Webber were also among those who really tried to offer what help they could about various aspects of the music world and music careers)

But Miley is one of the few that I would say really doesn’t *have* any relevant experience to impart. She’s not a good singer, and, to me, she isn’t even that great of a stage performer. And while she sells to a bigger audience now, she got so much benefit from her tv-preteen fandom to prop her sales initially that I don’t see that she has anything useful to impart about the business side of music either (she could prove me wrong about this, though; have to wait and see; maybe she’s more savvy than we think).

Anyway, at this point, I would, honestly, prefer to have Justin Bieber or Taylor Swift as mentors over Miley because, to me, they at least *do* have more musical chops in various ways than she does.

Someone asked if Miley was going to sing “live” (personly I think she will lip synch).
I am guessing yes because shortly after it was announced that she was mentoring, Adam Shankman tweeted for everyone to watch the last performance on results night. He also tweet along with that a picture of him and Miley. So I am guessing she will be performing what ever song she has for her new movie which was produced by Shankman.

I will never, ever believe wanting to be a superstar does not equal money. If not about the money itself, then about the things that money can buy…

Yup, and it is the same reason every single contestant has ever been on idol.

If it’s not actually about the money, it’s about the need for attention or the addiction to performing. (or a combination of the three) There’s a reason people go on AI in the first place. The types of lives that those who are signed and are successful are extremely busy and stressful. There has to be something more than money that is keeping you on the road for 150 shows or on promo tours doing day after day of interviews. Your relationships with friends and family are going to be a challenge because they will have to take a back seat. Some of these contestants give up their ability to go out in public like they once did. The excitement of money can keep you going for a while, but something else has to be there to push you to do this long term.
If it was “just about the music”, they could have stayed back in their hometown with their family and friends and performed at gigs on the weekends. They wanted more and there is nothing wrong with that, but all of them have to give up things along the way.

Yes, I asked the question about performing live because last year for Idol, she recorded her song before an empty theater, and the tape was played. All sorts of adjustments can be made to her voice and delivery doing it this way.

(But many have not, also. Seems to me that Lulu and Peter Noone and Andrew Lloyd Webber were also among those who really tried to offer what help they could about various aspects of the music world and music careers)

I had them amongst my favorite mentors, along with Barry Manilow and Dolly Parton.

AI show producers are trying to tell us that the program has jumped the shark.

I thought this at first also but when I mentioned it to a friend they thought it could help on two fronts –
Miley definitely knows about the ‘I’m a product’ side (disney package artist anyone) and the ‘how to handle the red carpet/interview/pop culture shock’ side
and
it gives hope to those that can’t sing i.e. if Miley and Kesha can have hit songs and make money ANYONE can with the right hype, management and handlers…anyone.

Side benefit – when she sings worse than the person that gets voted off in their exit number it will make the idol leaving feel better.