Miley Cyrus Gets Naked for Rolling Stone, Drops "23" Music Video

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Here’s something different. Miley Cyrus is naked again. This time for the cover of Rolling Stone magazine. She was so excited about her first cover that she had “Rolling Stone” tattooed on her feet. I’m not even joking.

Also, the “23″ video debuted today. A collaboration with rapper, MikeWillMadeIt, Miley sticks her tongue out, shakes her ass, drops the F bomb and smokes pot while dressed in skintight high-school sports regalia.

Miley was not kidding at all when she sang “We Can’t Stop.” Way beyond the point that WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU’RE NOT HANNAH MONTANA ANYMORE–OMG YES WE GET IT–she’s still out to prove…something.

 
  • Bugme Nomor

    All these headlines for her singing and songwriting talent! She’s the next Adele, no doubt!

  • nycguy

    Is she incapable of leaving her tongue in her mouth?

  • Miss Blue

    Any young men in the audience? If so, can you please tell me if you find this photo attractive? Because I do not get it.

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    Flehman response (known to cat owners as “the thing the cat does with poking its tongue out”):

    The flehmen response (/?fle?m?n/; German: [?fle?m?n]), also called the flehmen position, flehmen reaction, flehming, or flehmening, is a behaviour whereby an animal curls back its upper lips exposing its front teeth, inhales with the nostrils usually closed and then often holds this position for several seconds. It may be performed over a site or substance of particular interest to the animal (e.g. urine or faeces) or may be performed with the neck stretched and the head held high in the air.

  • elliegrll

    It might just be me, but I don’t think that she’s going for sexy. At least not the the type of sexy that we associate with people like Rihanna, Britney, Christina, etc. I think she’s trying to appeal to the club crowd, and looks like the typical club or rave kid.

  • thedeviledadvocate

    Someone once told Miley she was tongue tied and overdressed. Since then, she has been trying to prove she isn’t tongue tied, nor overdressed at every available opportunity.

    It is somewhat ironic, that when these young stars go out of their way to prove they are no longer children, they seem to act far more childish than when they were actually children.

  • nycguy

    I’m a young (ish) man. And no, she is not sexy in the least. The girl who played her best friend on Hannah Montana is way sexier than she’ll ever be.

  • HermeticallySealed

    Sadly for her, all the club kids I know think she’s a joke.

  • Jake W.

    She has catchy songs, but she isn’t talented in the slightest.

  • BonnieDee

    I don’t think it’s about trying to prove something anymore. I have two theories. 1. She’s realized that she’s not much of a singer and is going for shock value so she can continue her “career.” or 2. There are drug/alcohol or mental health issues. I’m not sure which it is.

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    I’m going to vote “careerism,” largely because I don’t want my default position to be that it’s a sign of a disorder when a woman gets raunchy. So if Cyrus turns out to have problems, I apologize in advance for my insensitivity.

  • JimReed
  • elliegrll

    I think that her first song has resonated with a lot of club kids, especially the first one. Based on her sales, there is no need to feel sorry for her.

  • usedtobelucy

    Honestly, it’s really the tongue that I just don’t get. It doesn’t seem as if it could possibly feel sensual to her to have it sticking way way out like that over and over again. It’s got to be a *strain,* for crap’s sake.

    That being the case, what is it but an advertisement of her availability to do a lot of indiscriminate fellating? How sensual, pleasant and empowering is that for the supposedly empowered and sensual 20-year-old woman? It just seems like objectifying herself into some kind of pornographic caricature of something that would be solely for other people’s pleasure. ….

    I guess I just don’t understand millennial sexuality, or something. Although I suppose there are fantasizing-themselves-as-recipients among the audience who find it as enticing as all such pornography, though.

  • Guest

    Maybe she’s trying to appeal to the canine crowd?

  • jobeob987

    Okay, I couldn’t even make it to the two-minute mark. I read an interview today with Miley where she said she wasn’t trying to go for sexy on the VMAs. She also said if she wanted to dance well, then she would have. The way things stood, she wasn’t trying to dance well (???). Obviously, she’s been reading all the negative comments. I’ve gotta agree, though. What Miley’s putting out there isn’t sexy at all so I began to wonder, why do this at all? To prove she isn’t Hannah Montana? It’s almost like she’s being bratty on purpose. On the VMAs, she wore a one-piece romper, wore her hair like a toddler, danced with stuffed animals and repeatedly stuck out her tongue like a grown brat. If that’s your thing, Miley, have at it. It just doesn’t make much sense to me. Sexy, I could understand. Bratty is pretty asinine, imo.

  • jobeob987

    I’ll choose door #2.

  • Bugme Nomor

    I’ve begun to love the tongue because she looks so ridiculous when she does it.

  • HermeticallySealed

    Not to disappoint you, but there is little in this world that could ever make me feel sorry for Miley. High sales don’t tell us who are actually buying, so yeah I’ll take the real people I know who are in the scene over guess work.

  • usedtobelucy

    Well, you definitely have a point there.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    *yawn* Waste of time.

  • No Thanks

    ***Sigh*** I’m sure the naive “yoof” of America are getting a kick out of Miley freakin’ out the “adults” of America and her whole “Hannah Montana Gone Wild Routine.” It’s clearly paying off in the short term. But I have no doubt a few years from now once this shock schtick grows old, Miley will want to be taken seriously as an “artist” and will be shit out of luck.

  • tomr

    The nudity and tongue don’t hide the ugly. She is disgusting!

  • supersonic

    Why does she always have that tongue hanging out her mouth? Does she think that’s cute or something? It’s not. It just makes it look like there is something wrong with her.

  • lkingcorn

    We have an 18 year old in the house. He thinks Miley just trying to find herself. I get the feeling the more adult negative response the more her fans and most young people will defend it. It’s called the generation gap and this particular gap is thin. I’ve heard people in their twenties wondering if she’s gone to far. As a long time RS subscriber I am not pleased that they are going along on this sleaze ride. I guess money still talks.

  • Miz

    lol

  • Miz

    Can she just go away now?

  • SaSa8

    I’m so tired of seeing her and her craziness.

  • Bugme Nomor

    As far as I’m concerned, if you have an underarm tattoo there’s no need to bother shaving your underarms.

  • suenigma

    Eh, I like her first two songs well enough. This one, not so much.

    Miley’s new style isn’t sexy to me, but as other have said, I’m not sure that that is the point. Her look and actions don’t repulse, offend or shock me – they merely amuse. Stylewise she is clearly a student of the great female punk bands of the 80′s and/or the Riot Grrrl movement of the 90′s. I wish her music dared to be that edgy though – maybe the next album, huh Miley? There is nothing new under the sun, and she is eating the public’s outrage and disgust for breakfast.

  • Billy Bob™

    Now that Britney is hot and Miley is not.

  • HKfan

    I actually like this photo, apart from the tongue of course, if she’d kept that in her mouth she’d look really good here.
    Don’t like the song (it seems she’s releasing a song every week at the moment), but in the video when she’s in the Glee outfit with the paler makeup she looks gorgeous…….not something I’d ever really thought I’d say about Miley.

  • Ethan

    mess

  • Anny_nanny

    Sorry, I thought this guy from Prodigy on the pic. *shy*

  • Anny_nanny

    After a year, Britney and Kevin were married. It looks like Miley missed all period career of Britney till the moment of the famous visit to hairdressers. OK, she is almost shaved head, so it seems, and this period skip too.

  • usedtobelucy

    “Stylewise she is clearly a student of the great female punk bands of the
    80′s and/or the Riot Grrrl movement of the 90′s. I wish her music dared
    to be that edgy though – maybe the next album, huh Miley?”

    This is exactly what bugs me about it, actually.

    Yeah, I agree that stylewise this is what she’s showing. But, to me, the details of how it’s being done completely turn these movements on their heads.

    She’s got the haircut and the skinniness and the tattoos and nakedness and the working-man’s shoes and all that. But when you add the tongue and some of her other visuals — plus the fact that the music is, in fact, only faux edgy highly manufactured pop — to me her cooption of these styles is really a betrayal of them that comes off as stylistically just off and confused.

    Maybe I’m letting my feminist principles corrupt my memory of grrrl music too much, but as far as I know punk women have never gone around eternally offering to fellate every man in sight or offering their asses to Robin Thicke for the-old-man-gets-all-the-pleasure-from-the-nubile-woman sex.

    She’s coupling a style that was largely about women’s empowerment, pleasure, sex, rage and strength with old-fashioned commercial objectified-woman lite-porn imagery, looks like to me….. And it’s not like she’s doing it in some thoughtful or ironic or stylish way. And there are discordant elements that make it come across as unconvincing to me.

    (Now, if she does put out that actually edgy album some day, more power to her, But I’m not holding my breath.)

    The way this is being done — and the fact that she’s long been a big-money property that her handlers would clearly like to see continue being a big-money property — suggests to me that, for all her protestations about how she’s expressing her soul, this whole schtick was probably dreamed up as much in the corporate boardroom as in her mind: Take the power from female empowerment music while leaving the “style”; Add in a side of old-fashioned tongue porn and twitching her ass at an old guy; Mix in some faux-edgy pop music that’ll sell because it isn’t *really* edgy. Kind of like Disney for 20 year olds.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Yep. All phony and totally calculated.

  • HermeticallySealed

    What’s funny is, there really isn’t anything all that shocking about anything she has done, well, except how bad it is. None of the adults I know have been outraged or incredulous at her antics. They’ve all either laughed at the train wreck or rolled their eyes at how much of a poser she comes off as.

    Are there some who are offended? Sure, but they are the same segment that were all offended by Madonna rolling around on stage on national television, or Twisted Sister’s make up, or Divinyls’ “Touch Myself.” Miley needs an education on the subject if she thinks she is doing anything “new and edgy” with all of this.

    For all of her attempts to imply otherwise, her brand of “edgy” is every bit as commercial as she accused Guetta of being.

  • waitingforthe1

    The difference between Miley and Britney is that Britney pretended to be all virginal and innocent and Miley owns her choices without apology. Is she sexy? I think so in a badgirl kind of way. I like her FU attitude.

    The people who don’t like it aren’t who Miley is attempting to appeal to anyway so no loss for her.

    Miley is clearly winning this battle. She has songs that are selling like crazy. Songs that are hits on radio and now her first rolling stone cover and blogs that can’t stop talking about her.

    I say keep doing what you’re doing Miley because it’s working.

  • geekygirl

    lol, I was just going to leave a reply saying put that away!

  • usedtobelucy

    “What’s funny is, there really isn’t anything all that shocking about
    anything she has done, well, except how bad it is. None of the adults I
    know have been outraged or incredulous at her antics. They’ve all either
    laughed at the train wreck or rolled their eyes at how much of a poser
    she comes off as.”

    That’s my experience, too.

  • Tinawina

    I’m bored by Miley. I mean, all the female pop stars are naked these days, that’s nothing new. All they ever do is get find new ways to be naked.

    That’s not edgy or original anymore to me.

  • elliegrll

    The difference between Miley and Britney is that Britney pretended to be all virginal and innocent and Miley owns her choices without apology.

    That’s a big difference. I think that Britney had people in her life he sexualized her from the start, even when she was just 15 years old. There’s a disturbing quote from Jive’s Jeff Fenster where he pretty much admits that.

    Unlike with Britney, Miley seems to be in charge. She’s not putting herself in a subservient position to anyone, and as I said yesterday, it doesn’t seem like she’s doing this to promote the same type of sexy image that Rihanna, Britney and others have.

  • Aaron

    14:59:59…. just passed. How soon before she is no longer relevant?

  • No Thanks

    No, she’s not doing anything new. BUT – with Miley, her previous image as Hannah Montana was SO strong and SO pervasive, that watching her destroy it has attracted tons of attention.

    I’m convinced that when her and her people came up with a promotional strategy for this album, KILL HANNAH MONTANA was the first thing they wrote on the white board. Honestly, I predict her next music video will be of new Miley stalking old Miley/Hannah with the new Miley shoving Hannah into a wood chipper.

    But what happens when the novelty of that wears off? What’s the next stage? Did she even think that far in advance? I personally don’t think that she has. She’s going to have a hard time after this era. Because after Hannah Montana is purged from her system, she will be right back to being a dime a dozen wanna be.

  • helo23

    I get second hand embarrassment every time she does something what she thinks is “Grown up” or “edgy”. Or what she wants us to think as “ZOMG She’s not Hannah Montana anymore, yall!”. It’s like some sort of initiation for female pop stars these days. Or any celeb that started out as a child star. I think it’s a bit harder for celebs in music.

    Britney did it. And so did Christina. That goes for Leann Rimes and many others I can’t recall. But the way Miley is doing the “I a woman” act, or what she’s trying to go for is almost like a parody of what Britney and Christina kinda did and succeeded at doing. Well, maybe not Christina because she was kinda embarrassing doing the whole “I’m now a free, legal and sexual WOMAN…hear me roar” phase when she came out with “Dirrrty” in 02′.

    All in all, the “I’m now a woman” phase female pop stars do in order to make the transgression into “Adulthood” with their careers is tiring and kinda embarrassing. What’s wrong with just having talent and a good song?

    ETA: I don’t know if she’s trying to go for Pink’ look circa 2001-2002 with the hair and her “don’t give a f***” tude’. Nothing is original anymore. Been there. Done that.

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    All in all, the “I’m now a woman” phase female pop stars do in order to make the transgression into “Adulthood” with their careers is tiring and kinda embarrassing. What’s wrong with just having talent and a good song?

    Thinking back to being 18-ish (which was long post-sexual-revolution), sex was certainly a topic of interest to me… but y’know, there were other things on my mind as well. Politics. Interesting stuff from my college courses. Fears and aspirations about future career. Feelings about potentially escaping my hometown. Experiences with going new places and trying new things more adventurously than I’d been able to before. Discovering that my parents had a life when I wasn’t home. (Who knew!) Trying to figure out what I wanted in life.

    If somebody had asked me then “what makes you an adult?”, I don’t think my first response would have been “it’s legal to f**k, I know what bars won’t card me — here, let me take my clothes off and prove I am WOMAN.” Responsibility for my own level of intimacy with interesting other people was one element among a great many important things happening then. Some might actually have made decent song topics if I knew how to write songs.

  • taylor

    Keep looking at that watch, it’s going to be a while.

  • taylor

    It really doesn’t matter. Pop music is about the here and the now. She can ride this good girl gone bad train for a couple of years with the hit songs she’s getting. After that, who knows? People have been saying that Bieber’s and Swift’s “15 minutes are up” for years now. If she has the songs to back up her next era, she will continue to have a pop career. It really is that simple.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    Here today and gone tomorrow.

    Madonna used to successfully reinvent herself every couple of years. We’ll see if Miley and her handlers are that clever.

    I read the article and the word that came to mind was…vapid.

  • taylor

    Here today and tomorrow is unpredictable and completely unknown.

    Katy Perry and Gaga are doing the same, different looks and vibes for different eras. This is a common practice for pop acts, even for the guys.

    You aren’t her target audience.

  • No Thanks

    THIS. Madonna is whip smart. Always has been. Yes, Madonna changed her image constantly, but she never proclaimed “This is the REAL me!” with every single change. She was very clear that she was essentially just playing dress up and having fun with it. Come to think about it, I can say the same about Katy Perry, Pink, Britney Christina… they all approached their image changes as just playing a part and having fun with it.

    I have NO PROBLEM with people changing their images and trying something new. But Miley’s approach just SCREAMS desperation (and resentment towards Hannah Montana and her father).

  • No Thanks

    I never thought that about Swifty. Sure, she’s suffering from over exposure at the moment, but her success has always been firmly based in her song writing ability. When it comes to that, she has my respect.

    Bieber, ugh….he can go either way. He’s having some serious growing pains right now. I actually think he’s quite talented, but, much like Miley, he’s so desperate to change his image, he’s coming across as a pathetic poser.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    You aren’t her target audience.

    What does that have to do with the point I’m making?

    Katy hasn’t really needed to change it up all that much over the years. She has always been like the girl next door, relatable to the average young girl. I’m not surprised she’s popular.

    And Gaga has changed it up, but always with a very clear and distinct artistic vision.

    Miley seems to be just throwing shit at the wall. Like I said, we’ll see if she’ll be able to successfully switch gears (which she’ll inevitably have to do) and sustain a pop career.

  • elliegrll

    I just can’t deal with the idea that Miley is doing something that Madonna, Cher, Britney, Christina, etc. didn’t do. Madonna kissing Britney at the VMAs was a level of desperation that Miley can’t even fathom. Christina’s Dirty era, a blatant attempt to get some of the popularity that Britney had, even though she had a voice that could have brought her greater recognition, was so pathetic that it wound up hurting her career. Cher’s fishnet body suit screamed look at me, even though I’m too old to be wearing this, and left her more exposed than some of the things that Miley has worn.

    None of this is new. Miley is doing the same things that these women did, the only difference is that in the case of Britney and Christina it was men who came up with their looks, and who wanted to make them look like sexual objects instead of strong women.

  • elliegrll

    Vapid is the word that usually came to mind for me in reference to Madonna. While she can still tour, mostly based on her catalog, the performance of her last few albums would indicate that people are no longer buying into her characters, especially since those characters still dress just like Miley does.

  • elliegrll

    No, she’s not doing anything new. BUT – with Miley, her previous image as Hannah Montana was SO strong and SO pervasive, that watching her destroy it has attracted tons of attention.

    That image was a television character. Even then Miley managed to separate her real personality from the character. The things that she’s doing now aren’t new for her.

    There may be some people who can’t separate the real person from the character, but that’s not Miley’s problem.

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    I just can’t deal with the idea that Miley is doing something that Madonna, Cher, Britney, Christina, etc. didn’t do.

    Well, there’s the teensy issue that when Madonna, Cher, Britney, and Christina dance 90% naked, they’re not deliberately dancing badly, while Miley Cyrus claims to be.

    The other women named always seemed to be making a sincere try at doing a good job at whatever and in having something to say. It didn’t necessarily all come off well (I might even question whether Madonna is becoming self-parody), but…

    With Miley Cyrus, it’s like “I’ll throw whatever random ‘shocking’ shit at the wall, performing as ineptly as possible, because I know audiences are soooooo stewpid that this is what they’ll buy.”

    I suppose this can be defended as a daring postmodern statement on the meaning of entertainment, but I’d believe she’s a John Waters fan before I’d believe she reads Baudrillard and Lacan.

    When it comes to “strong women,” I’ll buy that from Madonna’s, Cher’s, and Christina’s performances (not from Britney’s, as she obviously has serious mental health issues being treated), as they often portray themselves as in charge of their own sexuality. Miley Cyrus portrays herself as out of control and not quite understanding what she’s doing.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    I’m talking about Miley. And how she comes across in that interview. Vapid.

    While she can still tour, mostly based on her catalog, the performance of her last few albums would indicate that people are no longer buying into her characters

    Madonna is in her 50s. Her pop career is pretty much over. But she kept a vibrant career going for 25+ years. Let’s see if Miley can accomplish that.

    Also, Madonna was a middle class girl from Detroit. She came up from nothing to make something of herself. Miley is a silly sheltered Hollywood girl, who seems to know very little outside of her world. I suspect it’s why she’s so enamored with thug life, or whatever. She’s a dilettante.

  • taylor

    “What does that have to do with the point I’m making?”

    Everything, as far as your response to the RS article.
    To start off her career, Katy kissed a girl and she liked it, and parents were upset about that song.
    Katy was naked on her single’s cover art and in her videos last era. She wore shaving cream on her naked body as clothes. I still remember the outrage from parents over Teenage Dream. The girl in the song was getting drunk on the beach, begging the guy to put his hands all over her skin tight jeans and wanting to go all the way tonight- with no regrets, just love. Then there was always another song on the album, Peacock:

    Are you brave enough to let me see your peacock?
    Don’t be a chicken boy, stop acting like a bitch
    I’m a peace out if you don’t give me the pay off
    Come on baby let me see
    What you’re hidin’ underneath
    I wanna see your peacock, cock, cock

    Oh my God no exaggeration
    Boy all this time was worth the waiting
    I just shed a tear
    I am so unprepared
    You got the finest architecture
    End of the rainbow looking treasure
    Such a sight to see
    And it’s all for me

    Girl next door? She’s the wild girl next door!

    Everyone can’t have the same image. There are different artists that appeal to different demographics and different subgroups in those demos. Miley is clearly appealing to a particular subgroup, just like Taylor Swift, Kesha, Gaga, etc. appeal to others. Will she successfully switch gears? I don’t know, but I don’t know it about anyone in Pop music at this point. There is no way to predict what will happen three years from now, for any of these artists, not even Katy Perry.

  • No Thanks

    If you want longevity in this business, you sure as hell better think further in advance. But, hell, Miley will always have her Hannah Montana money (despite how much she’s shitting on that image these days), so I guess Miley can afford to be as chaotic and crazy as she wants to be and not worry about the consequences. Bitch will always be rich.

  • elliegrll

    We will have to agree to disagree. I didn’t find anything strong about Christina coming out and saying that she was going to change up her style in order to sell records. I also don’t see how it’s different from Miley doing these things to get attention. Christina has one of the best voices in the industry, so wouldn’t it have been better to rely on that, instead of taking a persona that she didn’t seem to be comfortable in adapting? And one that seemed to diminish the level of her talent?

    Everything that all of the women that I mentioned wore was worn in an attempt to get attention and to shock people. I really doubt that Gaga wore nothing but her panties at the VMAs all night, because it was comfortable.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    Yes I’m old and I’ve seen it all. I’m not outraged, I’m bored. Seriously. YAWN.

    Also, I don’t find kissing a girl, wearing whipped cream strategically (40 years ago, Herb Alpert was all over that. My mom wasn’t outraged either), or making sexual innuendoes in songs all that shocking.

    As for Katy, she can be outrageous, but she’s also down to earth and sincere. That’s what makes her so relatable to girls.

    Again, been there done that. Next. Miley’s slapping it all against the wall willy nilly, hoping to make a stir. She is for now.

  • taylor

    You don’t know that she isn’t. From the RS article:

    “Shortly after she started to record Bangerz, Miley cleaned house. “I basically cut off all ties,” she says. “I got rid of my manager, I got rid of my label. I just started over. I really wanted to stay with my manager, but I feel like this” – her recent evolution – “would have scared them. I just don’t think they would’ve had as much faith in what I’m doing.”

    Miley has figured out a way to stay in the business, in one form or another, since her Hannah Montana days. You don’t know that she won’t come up with something different that will translate to her fans and a new audience 2-3 years from now. You don’t even know how long this current image will work. She’s young, she has time to work this current image for a while yet. Look at how long Taylor Swift has worked the “young girl scorned by the big bad boyfriends of the world” angle. Remember when people were supposed to be tired of her singing those songs? lol Remember when they were saying that on this very site BEFORE she released the highest selling album of the year? lol
    Miley has a target audience and so does Taylor Swift. They are hitting it and selling their music.

  • No Thanks

    None of that said she gave up all of her Hannah Montana money, did it? Like I said, she can afford to act like an idiot.

    P.S. I’m still bored with Taylor Swift’s “scorned girlfriend” angle. I’m over it. Maybe one day Taylor will trust her talent enough not to rely on that schtick. She’s going to have to in order to survive. Miley will too. Giving the finger to Hannah Montana is only going to last for so long.

  • taylor

    “Yes I’m old and I’ve seen it all. I’m not outraged, I’m bored. Seriously. YAWN.”

    Exactly. You aren’t her target audience. There are plenty in her target audience who aren’t in anyway bored and that’s what is important.

    Miley is relatable to some girls/ young women. Not all young girls/women are the same, you know? Some relate to Katy, some to Gaga, some to Taylor Swift and some to Miley. There are some that wouldn’t listen to any Pop diva girl, if you paid them.

    Miley has an audience, like all the rest of the Pop diva girls, and that’s all that matters in pop. They are only as good as their next song, next album, next era. Any one of them could be in this year and out two years from now.
    Now is all that any of them have.

  • taylor

    “I’m still bored with Taylor Swift’s “scorned girlfriend” angle. I’m over it.”
    Yeah, funny how that keeps working though, isn’t it?

  • No Thanks

    This pretty much sums up my opinion on Miley. This guy has her number:

    http://youtu.be/f49kd7ht5cU

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    Exactly. You aren’t her target audience. There are plenty in her target audience who aren’t in anyway bored and that’s what is important.

    Well, obvs, or she wouldn’t be selling a shit ton of records.

    But that wasn’t the point I was making. In my opinion, Katy et al may change it up, but they have created consistent personas that make sense when they change.

  • helo23

    I’m only a couple years older than Miley…and she’s an idiot to say the least lol There are a ton of people in their late teens/early 20s that think she’s a moron and a poser. I do like “We Can’t Stop” as a song but I’m neutral toward Miley and have always (still thinks) thought she was an idiot LMAO!

  • elliegrll

    Why does she have to give up the money that she made playing a fictional character? More importantly, why does she have to pretend that she is that fictional character?

  • No Thanks

    I didn’t say she had to do either. My contention is, Miley can afford to shit all over Hannah Montana because her Hannah Montana money will never go away.

    She doesn’t have to stay like Hannah Montana, but this whole new image she’s created that she SWEARS up and down is the “REAL” her, is as fake as a 3 dollar boll.

    And the only reason why it’s working for her at the moment, is because plenty are people are getting a kick out her kicking the shit out of Hannah Montana (which she continues to profit from).

    I think what I’m trying to say is….she is a hypocrite.

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    I really doubt that Gaga wore nothing but her panties at the VMAs all night, because it was comfortable.

    Totally agree with that and never claimed otherwise. Gaga, however, is a highly competent performer even when her specific choices do nothing for me.

    My key point was that Miley Cyrus deliberately performs badly — she’s said so herself. Her form of “empowerment” is at the expense of the audience — she’s deliberately handing out work she knows is crappy because she believes (correctly, it appears) that people will buy that.

    I wouldn’t find this likable in an artist if she were covered to the neck and wearing a veil — because honestly, nudity is not the issue. Artistic integrity is.

  • HermeticallySealed

    That was awesome. LoL And so very true.

  • elliegrll

    And the character that was created by writers in a studio is the real Miley.

    What Miley is doing is working for two reasons, one: she’s releasing good songs, and two: people keep talking or writing about her.

  • DaisyMagnolia

    I would recommend listening to her version of Jolene. She’s got a decent voice.

  • DaisyMagnolia

    RS has featured plenty of naked people on its cover. Miley is just another on their list.

  • DaisyMagnolia

    Pop music in general is hypocritical. Why give Miley grief over it?

  • DaisyMagnolia

    Britney was fun–until the failed marriages, shaved head, umbrella beating cars, and her dad having consveratorship over her every move. Suddenly, it stopped being a part to play.

  • taylor

    Katy used sex to sell her music, from I Kissed a Girl to California Girls to Teenage Dream. She wasn’t putting whip cream all over her body because she ran out of clothes. She wasn’t really singing about a colorful bird in her Peacock song. Katy did it in a different way than Gaga did or than Miley is doing now, but it’s all the same.
    Taylor works her sweet, virginal girl-scorned image like a pro and people just keep buying it up. Kelly Clarkson worked the pissed off the guy who did her wrong angle for several eras, even though she wasn’t dating anyone for years.
    It’s not real life, it’s pop music. It’s all been done before and it will all be done again.

  • taylor

    There are a ton of people in their late teens/early 20s that don’t feel the same as you about Miley, Taylor, Katy, Bruno, JT, fill-in-the-blank. There isn’t a single artist, past or present, that is going to get everyone to like them or their music. That’s why there are so many options and so many genres. All you need is a few million, though. ;)

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “With Miley Cyrus, it’s like “I’ll throw whatever random ‘shocking’ shit at the wall, performing as ineptly as possible, because I know audiences are soooooo stewpid that this is what they’ll buy.”

    An incredibly cynical and disdainful attitude that shows no self-respect and is totally disrespectful of her fans.

  • DaisyMagnolia

    Miley is essentially the Jackson Pollack of today’s pop scene. There are those who find her music/persona unorganized and random, and therefore meaningless. There are others who find her energetic. Some find her in bad taste. Some don’t care. Some think she’s creating art. Some don’t. It’s up to every individual to take what they will from her.

    The word I use to describe Miley: audacious. It’s like she’s daring us to say something. She doesn’t seem to care what we say, as long as we’re talking. We’ve noticed.

    I think Miley’s gone about certain things the wrong way, but they have nothing to do with her being naked, having a ‘blue’ period, or finding herself. It seems like every female pop star goes through that–Beyonce and Taylor being the two notable exceptions over the past 15 years.

    If you ask Miley to give you a finite definition of her current persona, I doubt she could tell you. She thinks she can, but she can’t. Makes her much like other 20-year-olds. Only difference is she’s doing everything in front of millions, which is of her own accord at this point.

    I don’t find her boring, because she’s moving too fast to be that IMO. She’s racing at max speed, seeing how far she can push whatever moment comes to her. My biggest concern is that she ‘crashes’ head on without warning. Which some will enjoy and cheer for. People love being correct on predicting others’ failings. That’s their right.

    I suppose the biggest gripe I have against her naysayers is the condescending attitude toward this. That so many try to seemingly slut shame Miley into being what they think is appropriate. And no one is in position to do that.

    In the end, she’ll move on to something else, like all pop stars do. And there will be another young starlet ready to take Miley’s spot. And the world keeps spinning. The more things stay the same, the more they don’t change. :-)

  • DaisyMagnolia

    I think Miley is being random in many ways. But I don’t think she’s really thought far enough ahead regarding the audience. I don’t think Miley is nearly as cynical as we’ve made her out to be.

  • elliegrll

    Miley is doing things to get attention. How is this different than Elton John’s outrageous outfits. Madonna kissing Britney Spears. Christina transforming from a sweet teen to a wannabe sex kitten. I could go on. It’s just all the same.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “I suppose the biggest gripe I have against her naysayers is the condescending attitude toward this. That so many try to seemingly slut shame Miley into being what they think is appropriate. And no one is in position to do that.”

    My disdain for Miley has nothing to do with “slut shaming” her. I have contempt for Miley simply because, by her own admission, she is intentionally creating crap and performing badly, and expressing delight that she’s being commercially successful in the process. Pollock never had that attitude in creating his art.

    ETA: Also, IMO, to compare Jackson Pollock to Miley Cyrus is a joke.

  • No Thanks

    Because none of them took those images seriously (well, maybe Britney did, but she has mental health issues). Madonna, Elton, Katie, Christina, etc… they were all having fun and putting on a show. Yeah, they were doing it to get attention, but for life of me I can’t remember any of them saying “Hey man, this is the REAL ME! I’m LEGIT!”

    Miley is taking this shiz WAY too fucking seriously and that’s why she’s coming across as fake and a poser.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Nope, not the same thing at all. When any artist intentionally performs badly, then they are worthy of contempt and don’t deserve respect, whether I like them (or their art) or not.

  • H.A.

    I don’t follow Miley’s career but I frequent one of the biggest music blogs where music critics and artist themselves go and right now Miley is all the talk. You can get a pulse on what the GP is really thinking. There is a lot of mix feelings about her new image but if you ask some of them if they knew 6 months ago that Miley would be kicking their favs butt the answer would be no even among her non fans. There were polls on who had the more iconic career: Miley Cyrus vs. your favorite popstar girl and I was SHOCKED when Miley’s numbers and receipts were compared against them. She beat out a whole lot of popstars including some with Grammys. The consensus is Grammys don’t make you iconic but are you relevant to pop culture.

    Billboard predicted 6 months ago to look out for Miley.

    Miley:
    TIME Magazine’s Most Influential, Forbes and sells out stadiums and arenas worldwide,

    Wonder World Tour(That’s just 1 concert)
    The O2 Arena London 80,679 / 80,679 (100%)$11,081,900

    Dominated not only music, but movies (grossed over $700 million at box office), television, fashion, and had a billion dollar empire to her name at 14.

    Miley: 5 platinum selling albums since 2006 (3 multi platinum)
    Miley Cyrus: Four US #1 albums
    Nine #1 Albums outside the US
    Over 15 million albums sold WW.

    Miley Cyrus Net Worth: $250 million

    Miley earned $48 million in 2010, the year Hannah Montana ended, and $15 million the following year when she did nothing

    Miley can retire today and still collect a 15-20 million dollar paycheck for doing nothing.

    Miley beat out even some of the favorites popstar. There were more receipts backing her not including this era.

    Personally I don’t think Miley is crazy or having a temporaly insanity breakdown. I think she knows exactly what she is doing. I don’t think she’s going away anytime soon.

  • H.A.

    Also you would be shocked which Idol didn’t cut the iconic/pop culture relevancy list. Just a perceptive on what other pop artist fans think.

  • DaisyMagnolia

    I didn’t say anyone here was slut shaming her.

    I was using Pollock as a point of reference, Much of what I wrote about Miley was said about Pollock. I’m not comparing levels of talent. Not sure why my comment would be a joke, since I was being serious about it.

  • DaisyMagnolia

    Everyone grows and matures differently.

  • elliegrll

    I’m still confused. These people did what they did for shock value. Just like Miley. They did what they did to get promo. Just like Miley. None of them were being themselves, they were putting on a character. There’s no difference.

    Besides that, Madonna seemed to buy into her hype, and the same is true for Gaga, which is probably why she has problems accepting the fact that she is one of the top 5 artist in the market today, instead of being number one all by herself.

  • DaisyMagnolia

    Eventually, nearly every pop star buys into their own hype. It’s not exclusive to Miley, not sure why it makes her a phony over the others. They all have an aura of HEAR ME ROAR about them. Madonna is still trying to shake her behind in fishnet stockings–never mind that she has a daughter old enough to do the same thing now.

    All of them put on facades. Some facades work and others don’t, but they all play the part in some way.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I think that it’s a joke because Pollock had a tremendous impact on art and Miley isn’t in the same universe in that regard.

  • usedtobelucy

    “Miley is a silly sheltered Hollywood girl, who seems to know very little
    outside of her world. I suspect it’s why she’s so enamored with thug
    life, or whatever. She’s a dilettante.”

    THIS.. And everything else you said, mj. But especially THIS.

  • usedtobelucy

    “None of this is new. Miley is doing the same things that these women
    did, the only difference is that in the case of Britney and Christina it
    was men who came up with their looks, and who wanted to make them look
    like sexual objects instead of strong women.”

    I completely agree with you that others have done similar things … But how do we know that a strong woman invented Miley’s stuff? Especially given the guy who directed her video; all this tongue stuff, which certainly looks to me as if it could be or likely is male inspired; and the fact that Miley’s always been a manufactured Hollywood comodity and therefore might still be.

    Am I missing something? I may well be, because I certainly haven’t been reading everything. But are there quotes somewhere that tell us that this is all Miley’s personal choice (or the choice of some other woman who’s helping run her career?) …. Not disputing what you say about it being woman-directed. Just wondering where you’re getting that, since just from my observation of it it looks as if it could very easily be just as male-run as the others.

  • usedtobelucy

    “I’m still confused. These people did what they did for shock value.
    Just like Miley. They did what they did to get promo. Just like Miley.
    None of them were being themselves, they were putting on a character.
    There’s no difference.”

    I pretty much completely agree with you about all this.

    My only issue with Miley is that it bothers me that she’s mixing what I see as feminist-empowerment iconography with pure male-objectifying-porn iconography — and doesn’t seem to realize that that’s what she’s doing.

    And I certainly don’t expect this kind of personal literary-criticism objection that I have to have any negative influence on her sales, at least in the short-term short-lived pop-song world! …. It *is* also an additional reason why I think most of her schtick may be way more corporate-inspired than she’s letting on, though, I must say.

  • DaisyMagnolia

    I didn’t say she did. I’m not sure where you picked up that from.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Because you chose Pollock for the comparison, it follows that you are placing Miley on the same level at him – a genius who created a lot of “buzz” and ended up making a huge impact on his chosen field. That’s the joke.

  • suenigma

    The heroines of the Riot Grrrls movement often dressed, sang and danced badly, intentionally at times. It was kind of the point. I honestly think Miley is patterning her current style, if not her music, after these women, not the pop princesses and icons listed. If there is any correlation to be drawn it would be to Gwen Stefani – but Gwen Stefani on crack!

  • Eilonwy_has_an_emu

    I’d be genuinely interested to hear an interviewer ask Cyrus directly what she knows about RiotGrrls, as well as to pursue my theory that she’s secretly a disciple of John Waters.

    “I expect the music-buying public to spend money to listen to me deliberately perform badly” doesn’t sit well with me, no matter how it’s sourced and footnoted, but a frank discussion about her influences would at least be a lively and informative conversation in which she has to talk like a professional performer instead of just bringing the brattiness. I can go for that, even from musicians whose music doesn’t particularly work for me.

  • suenigma

    That would be interesting. I remember watching some entertainment show 5 or 6 years ago (longer?) when Miley was releasing her first non-Disney album and going on her first major tour, and she talked about how she was a major hard rock and punk fan. I was surprised then, but her latest incarnation doesn’t surprise me in the least because of that, I guess.

  • thirdtime

    Miley Cyrus Selling Old Camera on
    eBay, Price Skyrockets from $26 to Over $10000 After Singer’s

    http://www.eonline.com/news/463360/miley-cyrus

    E! Online
    This camera is up to $13,300 now, with 6 days left to go! It amazes me how popular this girl is right now.

  • taylor

    I’ve read some interviews about the WCS video that said the ideas were hers. I’ve also seen an interview about her VMA performance where her manager (I think) was talking about the concept she had and how it made him nervous. lol

    Check the Miley thread at Pulse, where you can find most of the interviews and there you will find direct quotes. I’m sure there is a fan board that would have all this, but I can’t help you with that. I know Gaga’s best fanboard is GGD and Britney’s is Exhale, but I don’t follow Miley to know which fanbord is the best for information.

  • DaisyMagnolia

    Well, it’s a joke without a punchline. I’m not laughing. I sure didn’t mean that way. I’m sorry that I lead you down that road. :-(

  • elliegrll

    It can be empowering for women to use these images. I think that women have done that throughout history, especially in the world of art and music. Artists who people view as strong women have done, for example P!nk. She seems to be someone that people have said that Miley is copying.

    I still think that one of the differences between Miley and artists like Gaga, Britney or Christina is that Miley isn’t using these images to sexually stimulate anyone, or to make herself look subservient to men. There is a feeling that she’s doing it to show how much power she has. It worked at the VMAs, where it she took the spotlight off of Robin Thicke in what should have been his moment. It was very ironic that he said that the women in his video had all of the power, which was a lie, but then Miley came out, almost copying the degrading images of his video, but she really did have all of the power during that performance.

  • Bugme Nomor

    If the Kardashians can stick around as long as they have, I expect Miley to have a nice run as well. Mind you not because she’s a particularly gifted artist or singer. As long as there’s money to be made by others, she’ll be thrust upon us. The fact that she is constantly in the headlines but not that talented will fuel a backlash that will only push her “musical career” forward.

  • elliegrll

    The quality of her songs means that she has something that the Kardashians don’t. She’s not a great singer, but the same can be said about Katy Perry and Rihanna, and has been said about Madonna. But, they all have great songs. They also know how to deliver those songs, and that’s what matters.

  • Bugme Nomor

    Women who are “sexy” have power over men. If they have a brain, they are even more desirable.

    Miley isn’t sexy. Try as hard as she might.

    The only way Miley is showing “how much power she has” is by squandering the power she had accumulated.

    She’s trading on her old persona to generate publicity and her new persona comes across as an unintended caricature of what is sexy.

  • Bugme Nomor

    What matters is someone can make money off of them. They’re a figurehead.

    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/03/26/120326fa_fact_seabrook

  • elliegrll

    Of course Miley has a contract because the label thinks that she’s marketable. The music and her image are the two main components of her marketability.

  • Bugme Nomor

    If Miley wasn’t famous beforehand, she likely wouldn’t have a recording contract. That’s the key component of her “marketability.”

  • elliegrll

    So far, it doesn’t look like Miley is squandering anything. Her sale numbers don’t match up with what you are saying. She’s grown, and she’s not continuing the image that she is a 15 year old television character. It would have been stupid to continue to try and live off of her Hannah Montana fame, especially since that’s not who she is.

  • elliegrll

    Miley signed to RCA in January of this year. She left a label, Hollywood, which is home to a lot of teen or used to be teen stars, who have not been able to make the transition to more mainstream music.

    According to some recent articles, it was Miley’s Wrecking Ball demo that convinced the people at RCA to give her a contract. It was that song that made them believe that she could be marketable as an adult artist, and shed the Hannah Montana phase.

    If it was just about being a famous child actor, other stars turned singers would have found success and a major label deal too.

  • Bugme Nomor

    “Have you ever been to South Street in Philly?…I just started feeling my own vibe. I bought a pair of Doc Martens. I shaved my head. Driving a fucking Ford
    Explorer around.”

    ———————-

    “Her main ride these days is a cream-colored 2014 Maserati Quattroporte, which Miley bought a few weeks ago.”