Michael Jackson Dermatologist Reportedly the Biological Father of Prince and Paris, Plus Public Viewing Scheduled at Neverland For Friday

MJ sold 300,000 units between albums and singles in the UK in the fist 2 days after his death, according to BBC. That is astonishing!

It hasn’t even been a full week yet, I’m afraid to hear what’s coming next.

It hasn’t even been a full week yet, I’m afraid to hear what’s coming next.

I feel the same way.

It hasn’t even been a full week yet, I’m afraid to hear what’s coming next.

I know it. It’s like every day there is something new… I’m afraid it is going to get so much worse before the man will honestly ever rest in peace.

They are going to dig everything up on this man like they did when he was a live.

The media can be such vultures sometimes.

I try to take everything with a grain a salt, because Michael will always be an amazing musician to me and I try to remember him like that, not otherwise.

Ugh, this is quite a mess, isn’t it?

Anyway, those album sales are really impressive!

Michael Jackson’s body to have a public viewing on Friday at Neverland Ranch. According to CNN.

It’ll be Chaos.

In another related story, apparently MJ fans are committing suicide. Can anyone say WTF!!!

http://thisis50.com/profiles/blogs/seven-michael-jackson-fans

*sigh* here we go again with more rumors/accusations. Some people just want to “prove” those kids aren’t biologically MJ’s. As I said before when all of those other reports came out untrue, unless it comes from a coroner, doctor, or judge, I don’t believe it.

Regarding the Will, I’m glad there is one. I think it will clear a lot of stuff up. I knew something was strange when Jackson’s parents said all too quickly there wasn’t a Will. I do think Katherine and Joe will contest the Will, but Jackson rehired his attorney just 3 weeks ago to update it, so thats going to be hard to say it isn’t valid. I hope the court honors the Will.

Michael Jackson’s body to have a public viewing on Friday at Neverland Ranch. According to CNN.

Whoa!! MJ was such a private man. I have a feeling he wouldn’t want this.

Whoa!! MJ was such a private man. I have a feeling he wouldn’t want this.

my thoughts exactly

Whoa!! MJ was such a private man. I have a feeling he wouldn’t want this.

ITA.

In another related story, apparently MJ fans are committing suicide. Can anyone say WTF!!!

That’s crazy. I mean, I understand being sad he’s gone, but seriously?

Michael Jackson’s body to have a public viewing on Friday at Neverland Ranch. According to CNN.

Sick motherf&ckers……must have their pound of flesh. Dammit….. just wrong, on so many counts…..If this was Joseph’s idea, you sick bastard!

unique28v, I could see Joe contesting the will, but why do you think Katherine would? She is named in it.

SUICIDE! I love him and I am sad but not that sad.

People did this when Kurt Cobain died too, I believe. I can’t imagine being that into a celebrity, someone I only know from afar.

Interesting about the kids.

Of course it was Joseph’s idea. Joseph was the person who announced the funeral would be open to the public as well – he says because Michael would want it that way.

I’m not so sure about that, but then I’m not so sure how much Joseph knew his son anyway. He certainly had no idea his daughter was at the BET awards. Access Hollywood had an interview with him backstage saying how he was the only Jackson family member in attendance.

abbysee
Jun 30th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Michael Jackson’s body to have a public viewing on Friday at Neverland Ranch. According to CNN.

Sick motherf&ckers’ ¦’ ¦must have their pound of flesh. Dammit’ ¦.. just wrong, on so many counts’ ¦..If this was Joseph’s idea, you sick bastard!

If you read the CNN story you’ll see that the Mayor of Gary Indiana is begging the Jackson family to allow Michael’s body to “Lie In State” in Gary!!! Even hometowns are clamoring for the Caching!

Poor Michael, it seems his death will be very much like his life… abused for the benefit of other.

Public viewing of the body? That is so morbid and sick. What a circus this whole thing has become. And then there are fan suicides. Unbelievable..

And while it’s awesome to see his albums selling so well, I have a feeling they will use this opportunity to cash in on his death even more by releasing more extra stuff.

On June 5th, as I was purchasing music for a dance party, I saw stacks of MJ’s “Number Ones” CD in Wal-Mart’s bargain section on sale for $5.00. Went to Wal-Mart yesterday and there were two left, back at their original price (A least the $5.00 sticker had been removed). Sorry I passed on June 5th now.

unique28v, I could see Joe contesting the will, but why do you think Katherine would? She is named in it.

Yes, but she isn’t named as executer over MJ’s estate or at this point the children where the bulk of the money will go. And Joe’s name isn’t mentioned (so far) on anything, so he doesn’t have any money to promote his record company once the free press is over. I think they will contest being over the entire estate and the children’s inheritance. Katerine to me is a puppet, and Joe is pulling her strings. I hope I’m wrong, but history is proving me right about this one. I mean, she let him abuse her children (emotionally & physically) for years and said nothing. I think they are still married too… but i’m not 100% sure…..

And while it’s awesome to see his albums selling so well, I have a feeling they will use this opportunity to cash in on his death even more by releasing more extra stuff.

For sure. Its sad, but MJ will be worth more dead than alive. Just like Elvis was.

Public viewing of the body? That is so morbid and sick. What a circus this whole thing has become.

I”m not surprised. As soon as I saw Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson with Joe Jackson I knew this was going to turn into a big circus. Why won’t those 2 go on vacation or get a real job?

*sigh* here we go again with more rumors/accusations. Some people just want to ‘prove’  those kids aren’t biologically MJ’s. As I said before when all of those other reports came out untrue, unless it comes from a coroner, doctor, or judge, I don’t believe it.

It’s so sad. Like why does it matter to the public???? It shouldn’t. Like you, I’ll believe whatever comes from an official source and that doesn’t include Joseph Jackson’s lacky attorney.

There must be a serious split in the family if Joseph didn’t know Janet was at the BET Awards. I wonder if they saw his ‘performance’ on the red carpet and had Janet hightail it over there to give the speech. It’s pitiful.

And a public viewing????????? Dear God.

My guess is that the Jackson family and advisors will take cues from how things were handled with Elvis, and yes, there was a viewing of Elvis’s body at Graceland for the fans after he died. And we know how they handled Graceland, making it a tourist site. I am guessing that Neverland will be handled similarly, and that things are being planned so that Michael Jackson as a brand earns millions every year just like Elvis Presley as a brand earns millions.

Wait till the tabloids start running the stories with “Michael Jackson sightings” and try to say he isn’t really dead. Some people still believe that Elvis did not really die.

Didn’t Michael own rights to a big portion of the Beatles catalogue of music or did he sell that to raise money?

By the way, guess who manages Graceland now? CKX, who also owns 19 Entertainment. Now what is it that 19 E does?

If Debbie Rowe was sworn to keep the paternity a secret why is she talking not even a week after MJ’s death? No one can be trusted, I have such sorrow for Michael.

And a public viewing????????? Dear God.

Can you imagine all the sickos taking pictures of MJ’s corpse and then selling them to sleazy magazines to make money??? I don’t even want to think about it.

It’s so sad. Like why does it matter to the public???? It shouldn’t. Like you, I’ll believe whatever comes from an official source and that doesn’t include Joseph Jackson’s lacky attorney.

And those poor kids. I hope they keep them away from internet blogs, newspapers, the tv, etc. Can you imagine just losing your father, and then reading somewhere that he might not be your “biological” dad???? Come on now…. Society has really gone down the toilet.

Some people just want to ‘prove’  those kids aren’t biologically MJ’s. As I said before when all of those other reports came out untrue, unless it comes from a coroner, doctor, or judge, I don’t believe it.

I never believed that those kids were his biologically. If you look at MJ as a boy, he is a black kid. He looks nothing like he did later.

These two kids were simply too white looking to be his.

And what about the third child, “blanket”, the one he dangled over the balcony? Where is that child from? Noone seems to include him too much.

Didn’t Michael own rights to a big portion of the Beatles catalogue of music or did he sell that to raise money?

He has a loan against the cataglogue but he still owns it.

My guess is that the Jackson family and advisors will take cues from how things were handled with Elvis, and yes, there was a viewing of Elvis’s body at Graceland for the fans after he died.

Yes, and Elvis’s cousin took a picture of his body laying in the casket, and it was sold to the National Inquierer. I really don’t want to see MJ laying in a casket on the front page of US Weekly, OK! Magainze, or People. He’s helpless right now. Let’s give his body some respect.

I do agree they are going to turn his “brand” into an Elvis type though, which is why everyone is waiting to see where he will be buried. Gary, Indiana doesn’t care about MJ. He hasn’t lived there since he was like 10…. they just care about all the tourists he will bring to their little town.

we know how they handled Graceland, making it a tourist site. I am guessing that Neverland will be handled similarly,

That’s impossible, Neverland can never become a touristic business due to zoning laws. It would require a change in the property incorporation laws of the area, which his very influential neighbors will fight tooth and nail against.

I never believed that those kids were his biologically. If you look at MJ as a boy, he is a black kid. He looks nothing like he did later. These two kids were simply too white looking to be his.

Believing something and having absolute scientific proof (DNA test, blood test, etc) are two different things.

Sunn Jun 30th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

we know how they handled Graceland, making it a tourist site. I am guessing that Neverland will be handled similarly,

That’s impossible, Neverland can never become a touristic business due to zoning laws. It would require a change in the property incorporation laws of the area, which his very influential neighbors will fight tooth and nail against.

Interesting. My guess is they will do something…if they can not have tourists there then they may make a memorial book with exclusive photos from inside Neverland or something like that.

The list of things that are sold that are related to Elvis is stunning. You could even buy a replica of his first single with Sun records–it was a foam like disc. I’m guessing there will be Michael J clothes (jackets with epaulets, for example), Michael J greeting cards, etc., etc. It’s only beginning with the viewing of the body. Wonder how many years it will be before CKX bids to become the manager of Michael’s brand.

Interesting. My guess is they will do something’ ¦if they can not have tourists there then they may make a memorial book with exclusive photos if inside Neverland or something like that.

The list of things that are sold that are related to Elvis is stunning. You could even buy a replica of his first single with Sun records’“it was a foam like disc. I’m guessing there will be Michael L clothes (jackets with epaulets, for example), Michael J greeting cards, etc., etc. It’s only beginning with the viewing of the body. Wonder how many years it will be before CKX bids to become the manager of Michael’s brand.

Sure. But the biggest money maker for the Elvis estate is Graceland. That can never be the case for Michael, other merchandizing will bring in money ofcourse, but no way near what a Neverland memorial & theme park would have produced.

other merchandizing will bring in money ofcourse, but no way near what a Neverland memorial & theme park would have produced.

Very true. Thats probably why they are looking to do something in Gary, Indiana.

These were Michael’s kids no matter what. He was their dad. Article: Michael Jackson’s children ask to see father’s body

These were Michael’s kids no matter what. He was their dad.

Yep.

That’s impossible, Neverland can never become a touristic business due to zoning laws. It would require a change in the property incorporation laws of the area, which his very influential neighbors will fight tooth and nail against.

True, but the city may sacrifice their votes in order to become a tourist mecca. Money often talks.

The problem for the Jackson Clan is that Michael sold Neverland so it is out of their control. Therefore, I suspect that Joe and Co would be reluctant to add cache to a site that they don’t get any money from. Maybe they’ll do something horrid like agree to bury Michael there for some slice of the profits.

I find this all quite unseemly. It’s like jackals fighting over the corpse. The Mayor of Gary should be doubly ashamed.

Wait till the tabloids start running the stories with ‘Michael Jackson sightings’  and try to say he isn’t really dead.

It’s already started. I read an article this morning on mediatakeout.

Sunn “That’s impossible, Neverland can never become a touristic business due to zoning laws. It would require a change in the property incorporation laws of the area, which his very influential neighbors will fight tooth and nail against.”

Hmm, Money vs. Money. Should be interesting. Only time will tell.

Sure. But the biggest money maker for the Elvis estate is Graceland. That can never be the case for Michael, other merchandizing will bring in money ofcourse, but no way near what a Neverland memorial & theme park would have produced.

If they are thwarted from having tourists at Neverland, then they might choose to build a replica in a theme park setting and move Michael’s body there. Have you read what CKX’s plans are for Graceland? They want to have the annual tourism for it rival Disneyland.

Anyway, enough speculation from me. Just guessing that Michael J will be (already is to some extent) a huge brand that earns millions year in and year out. I think some of the comments being made now by some family/friends are designed to be sure he is seen as THE superstar.

According to Radar: Debbie Rowe IS biological mother of MJ’s children, says her lawyer. http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/06/exclusive-debbie-rowe-biological-mom-says-lawyer

Don’t know where to post this but according to this man, who hired Paula Abdul to choreograph the Jackson 5, Paula taught MJ how to moonwalk! WOW! hmy_tb:

I never for a second believed those kids were biologically his. There are some things that just happen genetically when you have a black father and a white mother. The kids are clearly 100% caucasian. I doubt even the kids believed they were his biologically and for all we know he was upfront with them about it. Being a dad is much more than biology anyway so if the kids loved him and were loved by him it doesn’t diminish his importance in their lives.

Whoa!! MJ was such a private man. I have a feeling he wouldn’t want this.

If that was the case he shouldn’t have done so many strange things that people would finally want the real deal about after his passing.

I knew there were going to be multiple wills….oops more accurately I should say the report that there are multiple wills is not surprising to me.

Once MJ is dead all those confidentiality agreements I imagine die with him. Let’s hope he was upfront with his children.

Now I figured out why Joe Jackson is so nonchalant about the children, not related to him biologically and standing in the way of his getting at Michael’s money.

Was there any dispute that Rowe was the biological mother, she provided the eggs, but she was essentially a womb for hire. I think the comment about detachment was if you were married to someone and you had children together, if it it was artificial would you not seem more attached to the children then again not sure if her contract with MJ and his shutting her out allowed her to get close if that was something she even wanted.

The problem for the Jackson Clan is that Michael sold Neverland so it is out of their control.

I’m not 100% certain about that one. There was some kind of funky partnership put in place that the ranch was deeded to. And, I think Michael may have still been one of the partners. I don’t believe he’s the majority owner anymore – but I think he might still have a piece of it.

Whoa!! MJ was such a private man. I have a feeling he wouldn’t want this.

Of course he wouldn’t. The thing he hated most about his life was being the freak on display. This is all Joe. And, didn’t Michael convert to Islam? Doesn’t that religion have one of those bury immediately kind of rules that would make this whole circus against Michael’s religious beliefs?

Either way – you can expect to find Joe Jackson at the memorial service behind a very large merchandise counter.

unique28v, I could see Joe contesting the will, but why do you think Katherine would? She is named in it.

Because Joe obviously doesn’t think he gave her a big enough piece, and Katherine always does exactly what Joe says. Also – I’m guessing that any legitimate wills do not name Katherine or Joe as executors, and Joe just won’t be having anyone else getting control over the situation.

I don’t know how he would actually feel about the public viewing, he always loved a spectacle and he had moments where he craved the spotlight. After all it sounds like the kind of public viewing that you would accord to heads of state and I think Michael always fancied himself as someone at that level of stature. Like some kind of global ambassador for music. For all we know he already planned his funeral or at least made his wishes known and those wishes are being respected. A lot of people preplan their funeral these days and put it in writing because they don’t trust the family to respect their wishes.

Sunn beat me to to on why Neverland likely cannot become a Graceland.

If Debbie Rowe’s confidentiality agreement was with Michael Jackson, he dies, the agreement is no longer in effect I would guess.

If Debbie Rowe was sworn to keep the paternity a secret why is she talking not even a week after MJ’s death? No one can be trusted, I have such sorrow for Michael.

From the Radaronline link posted above by Sunn, it looks like Debbie is the mother. I guess she did keep her word. It makes more logical sense if she is the biological mother. I mean, why not? KNX News radio in Los Angeles reported this morning the “Debbie Rowe isn’t the biological mother” story. There will be alot of corrections run this afternoon.

The problem for the Jackson Clan is that Michael sold Neverland so it is out of their control.

Neverland was never sold.

wow this gets crazier every day. I hope the rumor is true that Joe Jackson gets nothing from Michael. Also, I am afraid if his mom Katherine gets custody of the kids, there is still going to be Joe jackson in the house – who is an ABUSER. I dont want those kids getting abused by Joe jackson.

What a mess about this whole situation. every day more and more stuff comes out in the open. people dont realize they are going to die soon and then their legal affairs and family matters dont get taken care of properly.

They could of course replicate Neverland or move it….there are ways if you are greedy enough and/or imaginative enough.

Do we know what MJ’s religious beliefs were when he died – just as much confusion on that issue as any other in his life.

From the Radaronline link posted above by Sunn, it looks like Debbie is the mother.

I think it might be kind of a moot point. Whether or not Debbie used her own egg for the insemination, she was their legal mother I think. If her name went on their birth certificates without contest (which I assume it did since she was an interested party in the custody hearings), then, she’s their legal mother. Regardless of biology. If she has not legally given up her parental rights (which, who knows with this woman, she may have) then she is still their mother.

This is the two faces of the fame game and you can’t just blame the press. Just as Lady Diana used and manipulated the press to her own ends, don’t be surprised if then the media bites you back. Michael Jackson was not a completely private man or we wouldn’t be talking about him at all or if he had been totally open about all the bizarre facets of his life there wouldn’t be as much fascination. But he used the media to his own devices when and if it suited him – however the media will always bit you back. So when you court the media and come to rely on it too much, you do it at your own risk.

I just read that AEG is very cleverly telling ticket holders that instead of a refund, ticket buyers can request to be sent the tickets to keep as souvenirs.

Sick motherf&ckers’ ¦’ ¦must have their pound of flesh. Dammit’ ¦.. just wrong, on so many counts’ ¦..If this was Joseph’s idea, you sick bastard!

Agree… Just think – it will give Joseph Jackson yet another opportunity to get in front of the cameras and promote his record label… it’s beyond sickening.

Paternity is dictated by state law. My experience with CA law is that if the couple is married, and uses donor sperm (from a sperm bank with signed donation papers), then the children are by law, the issue of the mother and father stated on the birth certificate regardless of biology.

Regardless of biology. If she has not legally given up her parental rights (which, who knows with this woman, she may have) then she is still their mother.

Agreed, but to me it feels better for the kids that Michael was married to their biological mom. Now that both biological parents are known, the mother, the dermatologist, it gives the kids a chance to know a bit more about where they came from. (and in a practical sense, for medical reasons, it is nice for them to know who their their genetic relatives are).

Also, didn’t Debbie surface when the abuse charges were brought up and she was considering custody? My memory is just a bit fuzzy.

If this gets ugly, I wouldn’t be surprised if she does try to get custody.

AP is reporting that “a person with knowledge of Michael Jackson’s will” says that MJ awarded custody of the kids to his mother and names two executors for his estate. He wanted a trust fund set up for the children.

http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=418226

Michael Jackson was not a completely private man or we wouldn’t be talking about him at all or if he had been totally open about all the bizarre facets of his life there wouldn’t be as much fascination.

What bizarre facts? You mean the ones that the media made up, which is about 95% of their coverage. this isn’t just MJ, but in general now. Reports over the weekend was that George Clooney and Britney Spears died. Who can believe the media nowadays? MJ hasn’t toured, done any interviews, etc for years. In fact, people didn’t even know where he was until he announced this tour. You don’t see him at red carpets, restaurants, etc. He always stayed away form the media and did very few interviews his entire life.

So now Rowe is the biological mother … truthfully, in the most recent picture I saw of the oldest son, he did bear a physical resemblance to her.

Strange disconnect is putting it mildly. I can’t even begin to wrap my mind around this woman’s behavior. Now that the only parent her children have ever known is gone, she still wants nothing to do with them? She was just a womb? Bizarre.

I was truly hoping Janet would step up to take the kids because the grandmother is too old and Joe is too ____ (fill in the blank – greedy, dishonest, manipulative, abusive, etc.) So sad.

Word is that neither were the bio parents. The mother only carried the children. And to add more fuel to the fire, it was reported earlier that Jacko never legally filed for adoption for the children.

DNA is coming. What a freaking circus. I hope Katherine has security, ’cause I’d be scared ole Joe would have me knocked off. If you look up “dysfunctional” in the dictionary, it would surely show the Jackson family.

This is why it makes me nervous when people speak of creating Super Stars from our Idols. I’m 63, and there have only been 2 major Super Stars in my lifetime, in America, and look how they ended up. Frank Sinatra was huge; but not in my generation.

Oh well, it will take years to sort this out.

Another thing, I didn’t want anyone to think I even thought these kids were his bio kids. It’s obvious they aren’t. They are snow white. He is black. Enuff said.

In matters like this I don’t know who to believe when reading interviews about Michael J. However, I read this interview tonight and this fellow is a Rabbi who has been on Oprah talking with families who were stressed from divorce or other issues. He seemed then to be a caring man, who was thoughtful as well as a straight shooter.

Here’s a good article about his friendship with Michael, how he tried to talk straight with Michael, what Michael thought about his parents, etc.– lots of things covered in this interview:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/30/jackson.rabbi/index.html?iref=mpstoryview