Michael Jackson News Roundup: AEG Releases Rehearsal Footage

Jackson’s brother, Jermaine speaks He says he’d be hurt if it turns out Michael’s death is due to drug abuse

Hurt? I wonder how manslaughter charges against a doctor treating Michael are going to make him feel. We haven’t thought about Michael Jackson as a victim based on his history, the charges that were made against him (and of which he was cleared), but if a doctor was administering a drug that should only be available in a hospital and of which there was no medical necessity and Michael died as a result, that is manslaughter not drug abuse.

Michael doesn’t look freaky to me, but thats just me. Anyways, I agree he doesn’t look close to death. In fact, the CNN clip looked like it was going to be a really good concert. Typical Michael actually. Oh well. It just wasn’t meant to be.

that is manslaughter not drug abuse.

It’s both.

He is really thin. Too damn thin. I guess I should say he was thin…

but if a doctor was administering a drug that should only be available in a hospital and of which there was no medical necessity and Michael died as a result, that is manslaughter not drug abuse.

Unfortuante as it is, doctors are always giving people drugs, even children now. There’s a pill for everything nowadays. We’re one of the few countries that even advertise drugs on tv. Its terrible.

Jermaine’s interview was defintely heartwrenching. You could see the pain in his face, especially when he told how he heard of his brother’s death and seeing him lying there in the hospital. People have to realize that Michael was a human being like the rest of us and has a family that is grieving. All of these tabloid rumors are despictible.

He doesn’t look freaky at all, just thin. MSNBC also said that he was definitely singing not lip-syncing, so that puts to rest that rumour.

I think he sounded great, it would have been a great show.

ETA:

that is manslaughter not drug abuse.

If a doctor did administer the drug the criminal charges could either manslaughter, or depraved indifference . Those are the two death related charges, that I know of, that don’t require intent.

Michael was always very thin. Look at his skinny legs in thriller. The only difference is he was now 50 instead of 22.

he’s actually moving around good, and is very engaged.

He doesn’t look freaky to me either. It wld have been an awesome concert but God giveth and He taketh. so RIP Michael.

He DEFINITELY needed to put on a few pounds, but it looks like it would have been a great show.

Random…I think the blonde guitarist is Orianthi Panagar aka the girl who played with Carrie Underwood at the Grammys.

Judging by that clip I too think it would have been a good concert. Of course it wouldn’t be anything like when he was in his prima and who knows how long a set he would actually do but from what we’re shown there Michael certainly still has the moves and the performance skills.

It’s all just so very sad.

MSNBC also said that he was definitely singing not lip-syncing, so that puts to rest that rumour. I think he sounded great, it would have been a great show.

Yes. CNN confimed he was definitely singing as well. He sounded fantastic!! He sounded like typical Michael, now grant it, he wasn’t dancing exactly the same but he was 50. lol Thats to be expected. And the “he can’t sing due to lung problems rumors”. *sigh* the media loves to just make stuff up about MJ and people just believe it. It boogles the mind!!! I think CNN could say that Michael was born on Mars and people would believe it.

The show would have been amazing. Although, I didn’t recoginze the song they were practicing. Maybe a new one?

but God giveth and He taketh.

Now ain’t that the truth

Debbie Rowe tells NBC LA that she will seek custody of all 3 children. I wonder if this has something to do with being cut out of the will?

Nope. It has to do with the multi-million dollar inheritance those kids are going to get. The oldest child is old enough to decide who he wants to live with. So that will play a big part in where the oldest 2 children end up.

He definitely looks very thin, but not sickly. He sounds A-mazing and the choreography seemed fun…it looks like it would have been a great show.

The Jermaine interview was heartbreaking.

Ugh. I just feel so bad for the kids with the whole custody mess. I had a feeling Debbie Rowe would go from wanting visitation rights and thinking about custody to out right wanting custody after she was intentionally left out of the will.

He doesn’t look too thin to me or like someone about to drop dead, not that that means anything.
Too bad I never got to one of his shows.

That looked great! That made me smile.

that video made me sad and teary all over again. he was still michael jackson. dude still had it. i wish he could’ve played all those sold-out shows.

Nope. It has to do with the multi-million dollar inheritance those kids are going to get.

Err. Yep. That’s what I said. She’s looking at the kids’ inheritance because she’s been cut out of the will. Same difference.

The show would have been amazing. Although, I didn’t recoginze the song they were practicing. Maybe a new one?

Sounded like”They Don’t Care About US” from the History album, so not a new one.

unique28v says

Michael doesn’t look freaky to me, but thats just me.
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He didn’t look freaky to me either.

Anyways, I agree he doesn’t look close to death. In fact, the CNN clip looked like it was going to be a really good concert. Typical Michael actually.
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Yeah I agree!

Oh well. It just wasn’t meant to be.
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saga Jul 2nd, 2009 at 3:36 pm

He is really thin. Too damn thin. I guess I should say he was thin’ ¦

I agree! And doesn’t the camera put on 20 lbs?

I do have to admit the choreography looked really cool and he seemed to be moving well enough.

Rowe increases her chances of cashing in, either she will get the kids and have access to the money, or she will accept an out of court settlement to walk away from the kids. This is a typical, and quite expected move, she doesn’t want these kids, she is just taking her place at the trough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mmjypW_hNw

I love, love, this video of ‘They Don’t Care About Us’

Legally Miss Rowe doesn’t have a leg to stand on. She signed a legally compelling agreement that she was relinquishing all rights to those children. I am sure the agreement was for time in perpetuum and did not dissolve upon Michael’s death. Besides, she would have no legal standing for Blanket regardless since she had no relationship to him. If I was a judge I would tell her to go crawl back into the hole she climbed out of…despicable woman! Besides the will leaves nothing to the children and absolves them of any debt. That is all tied up in the trust.

The show would have been amazing. Although, I didn’t recoginze the song they were practicing. Maybe a new one?

Oh no. It’s called “They don’t care about us” it’s from the History album I believe. And a dance group, MD Showgroup, made up of young kids did an amazing dance routine to the song.

If your interested you can see it here.

The original Michael video is here

Doesn’t look freaky to me either. He looks amazing! I’m 45 and can’t move like that. Sad we can’t see him perform again. He definitely still had it.

but if a doctor was administering a drug that should only be available in a hospital and of which there was no medical necessity and Michael died as a result, that is manslaughter not drug abuse.

If the reports about there being Propofol at his house are accurate and that’s what he was taking then someone is going to be in big, big trouble.

HOT DAMN.

And I had teased my sister about not being sure Michael was up for being “awesome” on tour again. Then after he died I thought it might have been awesome afterall….

Way to prove me wrong.

As for Debbie Rowe wanting the kids, didn’t she NOT want the kids right before the will came out leaving everything to his three children?

Is there actually anything she can legally do if those are his wishes and she’s had no previous relationship with the children and has given them up?

“They don’t really care about us” is such a great song. And it makes me sad to know that this tour wouldn’t have happened. It would have been awesome.

He sounded fantastic!! He sounded like typical Michael, now grant it, he wasn’t dancing exactly the same but he was 50. lol Thats to be expected

^ ^ This.

Re his being thin, hasn’t Michael always been really thin?

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It’s funny, I always gave MJ the benefit of the doubt re those pedophile accusations, I’m not sure why… I guess I was always hoping he would make a come back. :downer_ee:

that video made me sad and teary all over again. he was still michael jackson. dude still had it. i wish he could’ve played all those sold-out shows.

ITA. I thought he looked pretty good and sounded AMAZING! I just wish we could have seen more of the dancing. It looked like the video stopped right when they were about to get it goin’. Sigh… I wish I’d had the chance to see him perform before he died. I’m off to check out the vid Tess posted.

In an interview I saw with Lou Ferrigno today, he said Michael only ate once a day and that he (Lou) had to convince him to gain pound or two. He also said it was very possible that he had lost that weight since they last worked together at the end of May. He said Michael only lifted 2 LB weights because he didn’t want to have big shoulders. (All of this sounds a little anorexic to me, a former anorexic.
I also heard on MSNBC that Michael was trying to get out of performing some of the concerts – not because he didn’t want to perform but that he thought he had only agreed to do 10 instead of 50 shows. (Remember he said in his press conference that he was doing 10 shows). I wasn’t watching the screen so I can’t supply a link for that story.

Michael looks way way too thin. I mean he was always thin but in this Video he is sickly thin. RIP.

Damn, that just broke my heart all over again.

Rest in peace Michael

Legally Miss Rowe doesn’t have a leg to stand on. She signed a legally compelling agreement that she was relinquishing all rights to those children. I am sure the agreement was for time in perpetuum and did not dissolve upon Michael’s death.

According to this MSNBC article, the appeals court overturned that agreement.

Rowe, who was married to Jackson in 1996 and filed for divorce three years later, surrendered her parental rights. An appeals court later found that was done in error, and Rowe and Jackson entered an out-of-court settlement in 2006.

I recall that sometime around his trial, she looked into getting her visitation rights restored. On the stand (under oath) at his trial, she claimed that she got to see the kids 8 hours every 45 days.

Besides, she would have no legal standing for Blanket regardless since she had no relationship to him.

She knows that:

Rowe said she was concerned about splitting up the children. She said she did not expect the court to grant custody of the third child, but added that she would be willing to accept custody.

It may be that she is just a gold-digger, but maybe she is not. She may have been okay with MJ having her kids, but draws the line at Joseph having custody of her kids. I’m sure she has heard the stories (and maybe some from Michael himself). Plus, she’s older now and knows she cannot have anymore kids (complications during childbirth) so maybe her views have changed. I don’t understand why she did what she did, but didn’t she get a nice settlement out of MJ? I’m sure she’s not eating out of garbage cans. So, it is possible that she does have some altruistic reasons.

Look at me being all uncynical today.

As for Debbie Rowe wanting the kids, didn’t she NOT want the kids right before the will came out leaving everything to his three children?

That was made up by the tabloids.

He looks (performance wise) and sounds incredible. He for sure is more skinny then usuual

All kinds of freaky to me. Not even human looking, had waaaay too much work done. A true musical genius in years past….

had waaaay too much work done

I know absolutely nothing about plastic surgery but people that do have said that it is as addictive as smoking, or drinking, or gambling. I would gather that if you have an addictive personality and you “hate” the way you look the “man in the mirror” will always be abhorant to you, so fix it.

I just wish physicians would be more ethical or less money hungry or something…and say enough is enough. But there would always be another guy in line that would do it. Money always has the upper hand…and what is so sad is it is the one thing that has no real value when all is said and done.

Wow. That video looks like it would have been one hell of a concert. Not just a concert but whole spectacular event.

So sad.

Gosh.. that would have been a heck of a show!!
The doctors were surprised at autopsy to find him in such good health!!! For sure, it’s the different medications ( stress) that caused his heart attack

I’m not up on all things Debbie Rowe…but playing devil’s advocate:

Michael would not have his first two children without Debbie.

From what we keep seeing in articles and interviews, Michael would plead for the things he wanted and keep after people to get them. He sounded like a master wheedler.

Michael also dropped anyone from his inner circle with whom he did not agree (immediately) or with whom he no longer agreed (over time). He would freeze them out.

How do we know what part of Debbie’s actions were a result of what Debbie wanted and what part of Debbie’s actions were wanted / orchestrated (manipulated) by Michael?*

Regardless, he appeared to have gotten a lot of pleasure from his children and for that, Debbie was to be appreciated.

*( For example, I read in an article on the Slate site that Michael “snatched” the second child up immediately after birth and took her away right away with blood and placenta still on her, without regard to her safety/potential infection from this action. There is so much that we do not know about the arrangement between Michael and Debbie.)

Wow. That video looks like it would have been one hell of a concert. Not just a concert but whole spectacular event.

So sad.

Yes it does and yes it is.

As for Debbie Rowe, I will not judge her because I haven’t walked in her shoes. None of us know what happened and it’s not our place to decide what is right or wrong, that is up to a judge.

The minute anyone…mother, father, surrogate, what have you take money for their kids, no matter what the circumstance, they have given up their parental rights.

Maybe I’m very narrow minded and unrealistic but I’m just trying to be truthful. Debbie sold her children…she has herself a horse ranch and the money to run it, and wouldn’t have these things unless she had given up her rights. And biology doesn’t a preferable parent or guardian make. Pretty much anyone can figure out how to make a baby….its caring and nurturing and developing the child that makes a parent.

True enough Tess but I can’t imagine that she could be any worse a person than Joe Jackson and if they are with Katherine, Joe will certainly be in the picture even if they haven’t lived together for many years. If not Debbie, then I think the children would be better off with Diana Ross….but it’s not my decision.

If a doctor did administer the drug the criminal charges could either manslaughter, or depraved indifference . Those are the two death related charges, that I know of, that don’t require intent.

I’d call it Criminally Negligent Homicide, where negligence unintentionally leads to death. Manslaughter and murder are really degrees of intent. I doubt Michael’s doctor intended to harm him.

Rs tribute – this sounds like it may be good memorial to Michael from his friends, fans and people who idolized him.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Michael-Jackson/Rolling-Stone-Magazine/e/9781615565009/?

Interesting tid bit – Adam is writing an essay in it as well.

Of the two Idol “winners” this year, I thought Kris was the one who was the major Michael Jackson fan. He sang more than one MJ song, recommended to Allison that she sing “Give In To Me,” etc. Yet Lambert (Winner #2) was awarded the Rolling Stone entry in the commemorative MJ issue of RS?

Just the idea that she tried to give up her parental rights should prevent her from staking a claim on them. The fact that it’s only a premptive against Joseph, or worse, a grab for the money makes me want to scream…..God help those children, but I think she’s far worse than Joseph, at least he didn’t abandon, or sell his children. She’s a bigger monster imho.

Watching Michael do what he so dearly loved just days before he died makes me happy. He sounded wonderful. So much for him being cadaverous or unable to sing. LOL at those who pushed that shit. Sometimes video tape is very rewarding. This is one of those times.

I would love to solely point the finger at the physicians, I have my own issues with the medical community, as they both saved my life, and have endangered it on a few occasions….they are just so ready to peddle their drugs, worse than any school year pusher. I still think that Michael in the end was the most culpable, as he did know better. I am sure that if it is indeed addiction that he didn’t realize how bad it was until it was too late. Sad.

Oh, I wish that Diana would just get together with Katherine and make a joint statement that they will carry out Michael’s wishes. She is a young 65, and I think if she has had any contact with those kids, it’s probably more than Debbie Rowe, and Katherine has been a very hands on grandparent. They are old enough though to be able to speak for themselves, so whatever they want should weigh heavily.

Of the two Idol ‘winners’  this year, I thought Kris was the one who was the major Michael Jackson fan. He sang more than one MJ song, recommended to Allison that she sing ‘Give In To Me,’  etc. Yet Lambert (Winner #2) was awarded the Rolling Stone entry in the commemorative MJ issue of RS?

Does every thread have to have an entry making it seem as if Adam in usurping Kris idol authority? What does Adam’s entry have to do with Kris? Not everything that happens to them since the show ended has anything to do with their idol journey, or must be a benefit of winning the show. They both expressed that Michael was one they looked up to. As did Matt Giraud, etc, etc. Maybe they can’t say that cause Kris won?

ETA: how do we know that kris will be omitted by the way?

I think we’ll be able to see the rehearsal footage from the entire performance in the near future because the entire event was taped. However, since it’s just rehearsal footage, I don’t expect to see Michael dancing full throttle – probably mostly just blocking and going through the basic steps in order to save his energy for the live performance. I believe that’s also the case with this short clip. I’m still looking forward to viewing it though.

BTW, I think Michael looks thin but STRONG and his voice sounds good. The magic was still there.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090702/ap_en_ce/us_michael_jackson_aeg

Randy Phillips, the CEO of concert promoter AEG, says there are over 100 hours of documentary footage of Jackson preparing for his comeback performances in London. He says there’s talk of turning that material into a motion picture or a pay-per-view event.

That was made up by the tabloids.

Nope. History shows us it is fact. If she really wanted her kids, she wouldn’t have given them up in the first place for money. Thats not a mother who has the best interest for their children. Sorry.

Luckily, the oldest children are old enough to say who they want to live with. The courts will take their wishes into consideration, along with Rowe’s past history with her children (if there is one), and of course MJ’s Will. If those two kids say they want to live with Grandma Jackson, I’ll be shocked if the court’s give them over to some stranger. DNA only doesn’t make one a parent.

He says there’s talk of turning that material into a motion picture or a pay-per-view event.

I definitely see an Oscar-worthy motion picture on the life of Michael Jackson in the future like they did with Ray Charles, Mohammad Ali, Johnny Cash, etc. The problem is, I don’t know anyone who could pull it off. lol MJ was such a unique performer.

I can’t get this song out of my head. :jittery_tb:

I’m not going to guess at Ms. Rowe’s thoughts, feelings, or intentions when I know next to nothing about her. I’d like to hear her side of things before I pass judgement or come to any conclusions. I have not walked in her shoes and don’t know her.

She sold her womb….what more is there to know.

Watching Michael do what he so dearly loved just days before he died makes me happy. He sounded wonderful. So much for him being cadaverous or unable to sing. LOL at those who pushed that shit. Sometimes video tape is very rewarding. This is one of those times.

Yes. I would like to play some of this video for those people who were all over my tv at the end of last week saying Michael was unable to perform and had no voice. Wonder what they’d say????

That video clip just makes me want more. If they put this out pay per view, I am sooo there! I can’t get over how great his voice sounded.

This is probably a racist sounding statement, but I’d like the kids to have some sort of upbringing around white people, in addition to Michael’s family. And really, I don’t think the kids were around their paternal grandparents much at all. They were living all over the place, and I question whether they’re all that close to the Jackson clan. I may be off base on this, though. Debbie Rowe had no power to fight for any type of custody, which she probably didn’t want to begin with. But she did step up to the plate a few times and was squashed. Why would she have been included in the will to begin with, since they were divorced? I’m just not ready to condemn her if she really wants custody.

Has anybody seen this?!

EXCLUSIVE: $25 Charge To Attend Michael Jackson Memorial

Fans who wish to attend Michael Jackson’s star-studded memorial service at Staples Center will have to shell out $25 to sit in the stands, RadarOnline.com has learned exclusively.

Read more!

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/exclusive-25-charge-attend-michael-jackson-memorial

I hope this is just lies!!! Altho the circus doesn’t bother me if it’s true. That’s appropriate and I bet Michael would have loved that.

Fans wishing to attend singer Michael Jackson’s memorial service next week will have to register for the 11,000 free tickets, organizers said Thursday. Details on how to register for the 10 a.m. (1 p.m. ET) service at the 20,000-seat Staples Center in Los Angeles, California, Tuesday are to be announced Friday.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/02/jackson.wrap/index.html

P/S: Sonyab, I think that’s you, if not sorry, there is a quote function at the bottom of the comment box

P/S: Sonyab, I think that’s you, if not sorry, there is a quote function at the bottom of the comment box

I hope I am doing this right haininh! And yes it’s SonyaB. Oh shoot I didn’t do it right.

Jermaine was on Larry King for quite awhile throughout the show tonight. The show was from Neverland. Jermaine did a fine job, his sorrow and love for his brother were very evident. Worth seeing the show if you missed it and still have a chance to see it.

Sonyab, you got it right I think haha. Sorry MJ for being off topic .

haininh

Sonyab, you got it right I think haha. Sorry MJ for being off topic .

Hey!! I did the quote right!! Anyway we can get back on topic! I want to see more of that rehearsal!

Jermaine was on Larry King for quite awhile throughout the show tonight. The show was from Neverland. Jermaine did a fine job, his sorrow and love for his brother were very evident. Worth seeing the show if you missed it and still have a chance to see it.

Yes. it was a great show. Jermaine and Michael talked alike. you could tell they were brothers. I also noticed how Jermaine got upset when Anderson Cooper came on talking about all of the “alleged allegations” regarding prescriptions, etc. It must be hard for them to grieve for Michael, and still go through the circus known as the American media circuit.

I definitely see an Oscar-worthy motion picture on the life of Michael Jackson in the future like they did with Ray Charles, Mohammad Ali, Johnny Cash, etc. The problem is, I don’t know anyone who could pull it off. lol MJ was such a unique performer.

Chris Brown or Usher?

I’ve watched this video over and over tonight, and am truly craving more. Morbid as it may seem, I want to see the whole show now. I also watched Jermaine on LKL and it was very touching. He is a lovely man. Jermaine actually hadn’t seen the video and watched it on camera. He was digging it for sure.

In the week that’s passed since Michael’s death, I have watched hours and hours of his videos – kind of like a wake. He was one of a kind and there will never be anyone like him again. I am sadder today than I was a week ago.

If he died as a result of taking this medication, I hope the doctor who gave it to him is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Watching this video, it’s clear that something went very wrong last Thursday morning. Michael Jackson should not be dead, of that I am certain.

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Yeah that… I feel exactly the same way. I’ve watched as many vids as I can find and I, too, feel more sad today than I did last week. After I saw the video of the rehearsal, I just got flat out mad. As you said foxydonna, there is no way MJ should be dead.

Lu

Yeah that’ ¦ I feel exactly the same way. I’ve watched as many vids as I can find and I,

Yeah me too!!! I have watched The Jacksons the american dream, His private home movies, and more! In the home movies he talks about how he writes songs and he saw a boy at a hospital who was sick. He needed a liver or he would die. Michael had his organization look all over for a liver for this boy because he didn’t want him to die! They found a liver for him!!!!!! God bless Michael!!

He was just like a kid in the candy store because he was seeing his vision come alive

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/02/jackson.rehearsals/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

I’m glad I’m not the only person who feels this way. I am mad too, Lu.

This show is supposedly the biggest, most elaborate one AEG ever produced and it’s ready to go. All that’s missing is Michael. Apparently, though, there’s been some talk of doing the entire show as planned only using other artists to sing Michael’s songs. I think that would be the best tribute of all.

In the complete CNN vid:

http://www.examiner.com/x-4819-Cable-TV-Examiner~y2009m7d2-CNN-airs-exclusive-video-of-Michael-Jackson-rehearsal

you here the director at the very end say
“Hold for applause hold for applause slow umbrella – fade out.”

That really got me.

Looks like it’s not only Adam Lambert that Gene Simmons harps on about.

http://inmusic.ca/news_and_features/contentposting_news.aspx?feedname=CP-ENTERTAINMENT&show=False&number=0&showbyline=False&subtitle=&detect=&abc=abc&date=False&newsitemid=023494924

Gene must be freaking out a gay man Adam is popular. An accused yet never proven child molestor popular after death.

He does have a point with Michael though what do Michael’s accusers think of all this? They are supposed victims. Usually sexual abuse victims relieve what traumatized them when an event occurs…Michael’s death would certainly traumatize them all over again. IF this did occur that is.

Of the two Idol ‘winners’  this year, I thought Kris was the one who was the major Michael Jackson fan. He sang more than one MJ song, recommended to Allison that she sing ‘Give In To Me,’  etc. Yet Lambert (Winner #2) was awarded the Rolling Stone entry in the commemorative MJ issue of RS?

Maybe they also asked Kris to contribute. The issue is almost like a book (96 pages) and they only gave an example of the list of contributors. So, I’d wait till the issue is out before I’d get indignant on Kris’ behalf…

Well I fear Jermaine is going to be very sad. And if what we hear is true, I find it hard to believe Jermaine didn’t realize his brother had a problem – understandably the Jackson family don’t want to talk about it. I heard him thanking Allah for the gift of his brother. How many Jacksons converted to Islam? Wonder how that sits with Katherine?

Anderson Cooper had a segment on the fact that Michael had an anesthesiologist on the Victory tour in 1997 and the guy had a mini clinic with him. Some guy named Ratner [any relation to Michael's good buddy director Brett Ratner?] who the CNN team found and asked questions but he would not comment. No kidding. He’ll be on the list the DEA are going to be talking to.

Anderson had on Sanja Gupta and said isn’t it odd to have an anesthesiologist on tour and Sanja said,
very odd, unheard of, he said he was just amazed from a medical point of view all the stuff was coming out or rumours coming out.

The doctor had IV equipment and monitoring equipment according to witnesses, he would stay in the hotel room beside Michael throughout the tour, and he told people that he put Michael to sleep at night and woke him up in the morning, and of course he is alleged to have done this using surgery level sedatives administered by IV – but at least he was monitoring him carefully.

Assuming MJ was still getting this stuff, the last provider of this kind of sedative was either clearly not as diligent or the cumulative effect of doing this for much longer than perhaps was thought along with other prescriptions for a long time all finally caught up to Michael. Maybe Jackson was having trouble finding someone to get this for him and he had to settle for someone less than qualified – can’t understand why he would ask this nurse for that one drug – I can’t imagine a nurse having the ability to score this stuff. Apparently AEG was not happy with MJ hiring Dr. Murray – they said Michael you are going to be in London UK where they have some of the finest doctors in the world, why do you need a doctor 24-7? But Michael insisted so they reluctantly agreed.

That must have been some bad insomnia. The reality is however money can buy even doctors who are risking their medical licenses ergo their livelihood.

I hate to be cyncial too but I imagine maybe Debbie figured MJ was so broke why bother but then she saw those Billboard charts and said, oh cash cow is solvent again.

The reality is the kids are not going to want to be torn apart from their one sibling and the only family they have known to live with a woman who was paid to be their mother. Now she is going to be stressing these kids out unnecessarily along with Mrs. Jackson and other family members.Which is likely why they will pay her off. So the poor kids don’t have to suffer anymore than they are.

Now I am not totally heartless – I think she probably tried to be a part of their lives, she was part of their lives in the beginning but Michael did not allow it once he was finished with her however at the end of the day, you took your money, you agreed to have your rights terminated even if they didn’t quite legally finish that process [apparently that was overturned] but what does say to the children that she was willing to give up her rights for money? You don’t really care about US.

If she only cared about the kids you should have been thrilled the Jacksons said they were willing to reestablish visitation unless she truly feels either Katherine Jackson or Dianna Ross are unfit guardians but I find that hard to believe. Joe Jackson lives in Vegas apparently and not with Katherine so you don’t have to worry about him.

I am sorry – I don’t have much empathy for someone who was willing to agree to a sham marriage and basically be a womb for hire. You play with fire you get burnt.

A contractual arrangement was made, she’s been paid more than once. Contract fulfilled. She is just able to use the law which favours her in spite of the circumstances to get paid one more time. I guess eight million bucks just doesn’t go as far as it used to. I believe that was the last payout she got.

About Michael looking strong – you know though that he is the consummate performer, learned how to push through pain and the rest because the show must go on.

We haven’t seen all the rehearsals – clearly Michael would put on his absolute best game face when he knew the cameras were on, he’s been doing it all his life.

And then get off the stage and collapse into a wheel chair for all we know and there is a photo of him leaving rehearsal in a wheel chair, just saying.

Healthy people don’t need a doctor at their beck and call.

I can’t remember who said it, in the plethora of coverage, but a good friend of Michael’s said they got him into a rehab once for addiction to painkillers, a very long time ago. Clearly that didn’t work.

I’m curious how much footage of that tour rehearsal there is. I love what I’m seeing in this short clip.

In the home movies he talks about how he writes songs and he saw a boy at a hospital who was sick. He needed a liver or he would die. Michael had his organization look all over for a liver for this boy because he didn’t want him to die! They found a liver for him!!!!!!

I have a feeling there are many more stories like this. Sadly, the media seems to want to continue talking about the charges filed against him eventhough he was found not guilty.

I’ll always appreciate the incredible talent of MJ. That’s what I’ll remember about him. It’s a crime that MJ didn’t get to show the world he could still light up the stage so that he could go out on a high note. Obviously, by the looks of this clip, he still had it. I do take some comfort in the fact that people are appreciating his music all over again.

lavender1960

That must have been some bad insomnia.

It must have been!! I guess a sleeping pill didn’t work? *shrug*

Lu

I have a feeling there are many more stories like this. Sadly, the media seems to want to continue talking about the charges filed against him eventhough he was found not guilty.

Yeah they like showing the negative and not the positive. When Michael died (was it channel 13?) showed the Martin Bashere (sp) Michael story again. Now why couldn’t they show Michael’s private home movies?!?!?! That would have been so much better! Something warm and positive!! *sigh*

If the doctor was an enabler and contributed to the death, he should be prosecuted. Just like ANS’s enablers.

At the same time, neither ANS or MJ were victims. They were drug addicts (seems pretty clear now that MJ was for years) and when you are rich and famous you can always find enablers. Enablers get my scorn and disgust, but the addict is ultimately responsible for their choices. With mj’s money, he could have afforded the best therapy and recovery help, the kind that other people couldn’t afford. Addiction is a sad thing and early death is sad but I don’t think it’s right to portray the doctor as the killer and Michael as the innocent victim, when he no doubt actively sought out doctors and nurses who would give him the drugs he needed and wanted. This particular iv drug sounds horrendous though and I’m surprised the police said the doctor was not a suspect. We don’t know he was actually using that iv on Michael but if he was, definitely it is a crime in my mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKBLxh3u0tM&feature=related

Remembering MJ…

Lu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKBLxh3u0tM&feature=related

Remembering MJ’ ¦

Thank you!!!!! Michael Jackson always had the moves!! He knew how to work it!

Make no mistake about it, Debbie Rowe is seeking revenge, not custody. She’s dispicable and I hope she gets nowhere near those kids after coldly and blatantly saying she wanted nothing to do with them many times before.

As for Michael, it’s a week later and still tough to take in that he’s gone. He looked and sounded great in the clip released by CNN. If this was him at rehearsal, I can’t imagine what he would have been like giving his all during the actual concert. He still had it. There’s really no one I can think of that even comes close to his level of talent and entertainment. It’s the end of an era, for sure. I hope he’s finally found some peace in death.

If you haven’t caught the home movies, you should watch them. They’re heart breaking and I think show the real person behind the star.

Part 1 of 11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6IzRz1pD6M

Lexus

If you haven’t caught the home movies, you should watch them. They’re heart breaking and I think show the real person behind the star.

Part 1 of 11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6IzRz1pD6M

Yes!! I have watched it! I just got done watching it yesterday! I love the part where he saved that sick little boy by getting him a liver!!! God bless you Michael!!! I wish I knew about this and other good things a long time ago!

The biggest problem with addiction is there becomes a point when you dont realize you are addicted…ask any alcoholic. Our minds and our bodies don’t always mesh and play in sync with each other. For the few sane ones amongst us they just can’t understand why you don’t stop…and for those that “have a problem” they know that they should stop but they can’t. The mind says stop and the body says no way.

Most everyone has some kind of addiction…it may be as simple as being a shopaholic, or a hoarder, or smoking or drinking or gambling, or over eating, or exercising too much, or watching too much TV or playing video games for hours, or following a TV show or contestant on the internet for hours at a time.

I’m not condoning what Michael did but I can understand. Once the cycle is rolling along it becomes more difficult to stop until the addiction is in control. I’m glad my addictions are minor and that I can still, at times, push myself away…but the desire is pretty much always there, I just work really hard at controlling it. Michael just lost control!

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Very true Tess… and what made it even worse is that some (who are supposed to protect life) were willing to help him stay addicted in order to be close to a celebrity or for the money or both.

Lexus and sonyab – I haven’t checked out the home movies yet but I’ll definitley check them out some time this weekend.

I’m still trying to wrap my head around this whole thing. Honestly, once I watched that rehearsal vid I was even more stunned that he died. What a waste.

Lu

Lexus and sonyab – I haven’t checked out the home movies yet but I’ll definitley check them out some time this weekend.

Yes!! Check it out! There are a lot of funny moments and heart warming moments. They had a Joseph Jackson day. I can understand Michael forgiving his father because he loves him but Joseph Jackson day? I don’t think he deserves that. Michael just had a warm heart. Micheal’s home movies should be on TV now!

I’m still trying to wrap my head around this whole thing. Honestly, once I watched that rehearsal vid I was even more stunned that he died. What a waste.

Yeah his poor family. Michael couldn’t get peace in life but he is now! So thank God for that.

More info about the AEG rehearsal footage – lots of footage and I’m certain it will become available to the public in one form or another.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090703/ap_en_ce/us_michael_jackson_aeg

Phillips said he released the clip because he was tired of seeing the singer negatively portrayed in the media since his death.

“I said let’s grab one piece where we can show people where he was headed,” he said. “He was developing getting his moves together.”

The rehearsal footage, shot in high definition, includes Jackson performing his hits “Thriller” and “Beat It.” Other footage shows production meetings and auditions.

“We have enough audio to make two live albums, and he’s never done a live album,” Phillips said. “This is really the last great work of a 21st century genius.”

The production budget for the 50 London shows, which were set to begin July 13, swelled to more than $25 million, he said.

Part of those costs included 3D technology used to produce what Phillips called “mini-movies” involving “Thriller” and “Earth Song.”

“That’s what’s so compelling,” he said. “Just `Thriller’ is nine minutes of 3D visual insanity.”

Another possibility is a tribute show at The O2 arena in London that would be broadcast worldwide and then sold as a DVD, the promoter said.

AndreaH says Phillips said he released the clip because he was tired of seeing the singer negatively portrayed in the media since his death

SINCE his death? He has been negatively portrayed for years not since his death.

I think Phillips was referring to the rumors about MJ being in poor health.

Did anybody watch the insider today? They had home movies of Micheal’s children singing. They were singing I love my daddy. Please don’t take him away. :glurps_tb: It made me cry.

AndreaH

I think Phillips was referring to the rumors about MJ being in poor health.

Oh.

Here’s the direct link to the Staples Center for free tickets to MJ’s memorial…Please note that there is NO guarantee that you will obtain tickets upon registering.

http://www.staplescenter.com/memorial.php

MommaDuck

Here’s the direct link to the Staples Center for free tickets to MJ’s memorial’ ¦Please note that there is NO guarantee that you will obtain tickets upon registering.

http://www.staplescenter.com/memorial.php

Oh so the tickets are free so it isn’t true that people have to pay! Unless it was true and they changed their mind.

I have to say I have forgotten just how really really good very young Michael was a singer, hearing all the really old stuff, which I grew up with because I am just a little younger than him. Didn’t they have a cartoon like the Beatles used to. If you remember this you are a Boomer because I think the cartoon show started with A-B-C. My dad would tease us every time we were glued to the set watching the Jackson Five on some live appearance. He didn’t get the style of dance shall we say?

Well of course Phillips want to foster an image that MJ was in great health – he has an HUGE insurance policy riding on it.