Lee DeWyze - "Live it Up" Digital - $3.99 at Amazon

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Been thinking about purchasing the new Lee DeWyze album, Live it Up? Now is your chance to get it at a great deal.

Amazon.com is offering the digital version of Live it Up for only $3.99.  What a deal!

Download Live it Up from Amazon for only $3.99.

 
  • koshka

    What a deal!

    You can say that again!

  • cristististi

    Awesome!! I love hearing about LIU being gifted (including to cancer patients, doesn’t get more heart-warming than that) and given a chance. I hope it encourages people to buy it if they weren’t willing or unable to spend more money on it :)

  • MalwareDie

    I am pretty sure that Soundscan does not count purchases below 50% of the original price. Whatever extra numbers he get won’t be reflected on the BB200, and Live It Up should drop out of the BB200 soon.

  • tigervixxxen

    It is nice there is this deal for Lee. At this price point it is easier for people to check out the album and offer a little bit of support. Amazon tweeted about it earlier today and the album is up to #9 in mp3 albums and #2 in pop. So far so good!

    There was an article about Taylor Swift’s $3.99 albums counting from Amazon. So that myth has been debunked. http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_display/industry/news/e3i5094e406e415c280a12d8a06b875f74f

  • artemis

    I’m happy Amazon is doing this-hopefully it will help Lee’s sales during the January sales drop.
    Thank you MJ for making a thread for this sale.
    This is great deal when you consider that a lot of stores are selling the album for $13.99.

  • jumpstart

    I am pretty sure that Soundscan does not count purchases below 50% of the original price. Whatever extra numbers he get won’t be reflected on the BB200, and Live It Up should drop out of the BB200 soon.

    Interesting …

  • MalwareDie

    This won’t help his sales very much at all, and won’t be reflected in the BB200 due to the extent of the price cut. Even huge 300K debuts from big acts can only muster 20K from Amazon, which accounts for only a very small portion of the market. This might result in an extra 300 units being sold, that Soundscan will not count.

  • kvwicks13

    Hopefully this will give Live it Up a boost, I gifted a few to family members and friends. Great way to get Lee’s music out there. And gifting to cancer patients, what a wonderful idea!

  • tigervixxxen

    I completely understand Amazon is a small portion of the market and none of us are expecting thousands upon thousands of sales. Soundscan will absolutely count the sales and even if there is a 300 or 1000 increase that is more than there would have been prior to the sale. Nobody here is looking to impress the skeptics with numbers and vast proclamations of superiority. We just want more people to enjoy and have exposure to Lee’s music so even if one person is affected by the sale then it is cause for happiness.

  • artemis

    MalwareDie-I remember this being argued about last year, don’t know if it was ever settled, Whatever the deal is with Soundscan, I’m sure RCA will know whatever he sells on Amazon and be pleased with the increase.
    This sale was all over twitter this weekend and today Amazon, which has 1.5 million followers on twitter, sent out a tweet about it. I’m sure he has already sold a lot more than 300 extra units.

  • MalwareDie

    Was Live It Up sold for $7.99 on the first day? I think the lowest price from any vendor counts as the original price, and that would make $3.99 valid.

  • cristististi

    Yep, gotta love twitter. It’s fun to see how fans are spreading the word and creating new fans everyday. The sales are just a number, but hearing stories of how music touches people is much more important.

  • tigervixxxen

    Amazon sold the physical copy of the CD for $7.99 when it was first released, yes.

  • kvwicks13

    It was sold for $7.99. Originally price was set at $12.99 when I ordered it but price was cut to $7.99 the day it came out.

  • standtotheright

    Was Live It Up sold for $7.99 on the first day? I think the lowest price from any vendor counts as the original price, and that would make $3.99 valid.

    The rumor, as I understand it, was that it was <50 percent of the MSRP, not the vendor price.

    But regardless, it's been debunked. Swift, Arcade Fire, Kanye West, etc.: all of them have done the $3.99 promotion and those sales have counted towards SS totals. It is a dead parrot.

    I'm not an LD fan, and as there was maybe one song I liked on the album even $3.99 was too much to pay, but I think it's a perfectly legitimate strategy. Now that Amazon MP3 allows for gifting, core fans can gift it to other people who were casual fans during the show without breaking the bank, Amazon gets more people who are aware of their mp3 promotions, and RCA still gets their normal wholesale cut (don't have the link, but it's been documented that Amazon takes the loss). The question is still outstanding if it's a long-term win for Amazon, but it's certainly a win for LD and RCA.

  • Allison

    I am pretty sure that Soundscan does not count purchases below 50% of the original price.

    I am 99% sure that’s not true. A sale at any price is a sale.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    And gifting to cancer patients, what a wonderful idea!

    Only if they want the CD.

  • wjmtv

    standtotheright:

    It is a dead parrot.

    Hee hee. :)

  • kvwicks13

    Only if they want the CD.

    Actually I’ve heard after hearing Beautiful Like You, many are requesting the CD.

  • wjmtv

    kvwicks13:
    01/10/2011 at 3:35 pm

    Only if they want the CD.

    Actually I’ve heard after hearing Beautiful Like You, many are requesting the CD.

    Can’t blame ‘em. :D

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Actually I’ve heard after hearing Beautiful Like You, many are requesting the CD.

    What an interesting promotional strategy.

  • Elliegrll

    I am 99% sure that’s not true. A sale at any price is a sale.

    Bon Jovi’s last regular cd made the top ten based on the Amazon deal. The label is still getting their regular share, and Amazon is the only one taking a loss on the deal.

    But, the deal only helps if 1. People know about it, and 2. there is a demand for the cd.

  • roccosrevolution

    Actually I’ve heard after hearing Beautiful Like You, many are requesting the CD.

    What an interesting promotional strategy.

    What’s the difference what the promotional strategy is??? Music is music and if people are donating it to people who need to smile… I think that’s great. Any kind of music is an escape for some people. I’m sure those poor ppl don’t care how many albums were sold or at what price point…. it takes their mind off of things.

  • tigervixxxen

    Also, 1,000 sales is the difference between 150 and 200 on the BB 200 album chart. So even at small variances in sales the chart impact is recognized.

  • superfudge

    People are buying Lee’s album and donating it to people who already have cancer?? Haven’t they suffered enough?? At least donate a decent album people would actually listen to.

    I hate when people do this kind of thing with the Idols. It’s disgusting to me. These people aren’t donating to help cancer patients or soldiers, they’re doing it to increase their favorites sales. If people really cared then send them an iTunes card or something. Let them have what THEY want. Ugh.

  • googletot

    I can’t see that buying any CD for a cancer patient would be beneficial (except to add to sales) unless that person actually liked the performer. Just like a gift — buy something for somebody that you know the person enjoys.

  • bmms

    Amazon Digital sale… I want this for Crystal’s album!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Nevermind Lee.

  • artemis

    The MP3s donated are obviously only for the patients who request them. I don’t know how you could give one to a patient who didn’t want one-they are digital.

  • standtotheright

    I can’t see that buying any CD for a cancer patient would be beneficial (except to add to sales) unless that person actually liked the performer. Just like a gift — buy something for somebody that you know the person enjoys.

    This is why I said I hoped core fans were buying for casual fans. If a cancer patient is one of those casual fans, and the core fan knows this, then it’s nice that someone is giving the patient a CD to cheer them up. But mass donations to strangers, who have their own tastes and interests, should be about them. I would never presume to give music to people without having a good handle on their taste. I agree that gift cards are a good way to go.

    I don’t know how you could give one to a patient who didn’t want one-they are digital.

    Email it to oneself or to others involved in the project and then have those people burn it to CD.

    I’m not saying that’s what’s happening, but it’s hardly implausible given how these campaigns have worked in the past. (I’m not picking on LD fans: like some others, I just really dislike donation campaigns.)

  • cristististi

    It’s not about shoving music down people’s throats, and it most certainly is NOT about driving up sales. These are people who can use anything to cheer them up. Music is perfectly capable of doing that. LIU is a happy, upbeat album with a positive message. If that has a chance to touch someone’s life, why not try?

    This is from my friend Krista, she’s responsible for starting this donation drive:

    I gave my niece Live it up for christmas, for the song Beautiful Like You, She just battled ovarian cancer at the age of 23. The song touched her because she Thought it was perfect for people going through what she did. No one could convince her she was still Beautiful, She chose not to believe it. The song brought tears to her eyes and helped her cope. The CD is now her favorite..Now Because of this great price people are donating to cancer centers, to help others cope..Wonderful!!..It is not how many people you touch with your music, But HOW you touch them..

  • Silent Screams

    Been thinking about purchasing the new Lee DeWyze album, Live it Up?

    Nope.

  • heat914

    On Monday 10th January 2011, @packgirl12 said:

    I gave my niece Live it up for christmas, for the song Beautiful like you, She just battled ovarian cancer at the age of 23. The song touched her because she Thought it was perfect for people going through what she did. No one could convince her she was still Beautiful, She chose not to believe it. The song brought tears to her eyes and helped her cope. The CD is now her favorite..Now Because of this great price people are donating to cancer centers, to help others cope..Wonderful!!..It is not how many people you touch with your music, But HOW you touch them..

  • heat914

    The above post is what inspired Lee fans to donate to this worthy cause.

  • artemis

    The cancer treatment center we are sending them to because of Krista’s niece said there are more patients than donations-they will all be used. Nobody is forcing anything on anybody-the center was glad to get them.

  • standtotheright

    Nobody is forcing anything on anybody-the center was glad to get them.

    This is what usually gets said about CD donations to soldiers, too. Doesn’t change my objection then, either, because it still ignores that there are alternatives that they’d be even MORE glad to get, like gift cards for iTunes, etc.

    I’m really glad that that woman knows her niece well enough to know that a particular song could touch her. But I’ve seen people struggle with cancer in my own life, and I know they would have also preferred to have the agency to choose a gift of the songs that they would want in a very personal time of trial if someone was going to take the time to make a donation. They would have tried to be grateful, of course, but getting something they really wanted would have meant they didn’t have to try. If that means that patients would choose LIU, more power to everyone. If they’d choose Melissa Etheridge, or Bach, or T.I. instead, then that preference should be equally valid.

  • superfudge

    It’s not about shoving music down people’s throats, and it most certainly is NOT about driving up sales.

    Nothing in the world will ever make me believe that. If someone is a hardcore fan taking part in these Idol album donations to patients/soldiers you will never convince me that there isn’t a little voice in the back of their head that says, “Hey, and also this will help his/her sales too”.

  • sma11ie

    (I’m not picking on LD fans: like some others, I just really dislike donation campaigns.)

    I’m not a fan of donation campaigns either, cuz it often seems CDs get shoved to people who never asked for them, but if it’s going to a treatment center that is “glad to get them”, then I’m assuming the donated albums are going to people who want them. In that case, good for them.

  • poster

    But I’ve seen people struggle with cancer in my own life, and I know they would have also preferred to have the agency to choose a gift of the songs that they would want in a very personal time of trial if someone was going to take the time to make a donation. They’d try to be grateful, of course, but getting something they really want means they don’t have to try. If that means that they choose LIU, more power to everyone

    But they might not even know about LIU. What’s the harm? If they don’t like it, listen once and never again. If they like it, bonus! I think it’s not about shoving stuff down cancer victims throats, but it’s about trying to touch them with music that touches others. No harm in that. It’s not like it’s going to send them into remission or anything. Personally, I think that’s a more thoughtful gift than a $3.99 I-Tunes Gift Card. JMHO.

  • standtotheright

    Personally, I think that’s a more thoughtful gift than a $3.99 I-Tunes Gift Card. JMHO.

    Why not send the gift card with a suggestion, then? Maybe even a handwritten note to explain the reason while still allowing them the choice to sample for themselves before they buy? Isn’t that personal?

    Sure, LIU is only $3.99 for today, but it’s not like it’s going to be $2,000 tomorrow.

  • progression

    Personally, I think that’s a more thoughtful gift than a $3.99 I-Tunes Gift Card. JMHO

    A gift card is much more thoughtful, it allows the recipient to select what they value, as opposed to what the “giver” likes. Economics 101. That said this happens every.single.year. Only the contestants names change. So, carry on.

  • poster

    Why not send the gift card with a suggestion, then? Maybe even a handwritten note to explain the reason while still allowing them the choice to sample for themselves before they buy? Isn’t that personal?

    I supposed it’s the same as buying someone a book. You take a chance they might not like it, but if you really think the person you’re buying the book for might enjoy it, it’s a thoughtful gift, in my opinion. If I were going to make a generic donation to a cancer center, I’d just give money. Then they can use it for whatever the need may be.

    There’s a certain book I’ve bought for several of my friends, and to a man they’ve all thanked me and said they loved the book, but would have never thought to buy it themselves. Sort of the same scenario, I guess.

  • Kitwana

    Even if the cancer victims and the soldiers don’t really want the CDs, what is the harm if the act of donating the CD makes the donor happy. People get joy from many things – including supporting their Idol by gifting and gifting. What’s wrong with this? At least with the $3.99 deal, the gifting won’t hurt the donor’s pocketbook as much. And if it can keep Lee in the BB200 for one more week, so much the better. Who is really harmed?

  • jacquesthedog

    I find the negativity about “donation” campaigns quite amusing, considering the ASPCA does it, the American Cancer Society does it, Red Cross does it, Girl Scouts of American does it, on and on..I mean if fans of Lee want to make a donation of his CD to some cancer patients, great. Furthermore, I would like to know what is the difference between getting the gift of music for a Hannukah, Christmas, Qwanza, or Festivus (For the Rest of Us)from a friend (even if you DON’T know or like the artist) and donating a CD during the holidays? None. Will it boost its sales? Sure! Any purchase you make of ANY product will boost it sales, music or otherwise. Perhaps we should just not buy any product as a gift or donate anything to anyone, because it would be misconstrued as “shoving it” down the throats of the giftee!! Clearly, this is an exaggeration, but I really fail to see the difference. Gift or Donation, of any product will get said products name out whether it be a Best Selling Book, Music, Electronics, etc.

  • Ever_wonder_why

    I think it is wonderful that a few people are making donations of LIU available to a few cancer centers. They are not being forced on the patients, but offered to them. If it’s not their cuppa tea then they can pass on accepting it.

    If one person feels a little better about their situation due to that one song..Beautiful Like You …then more power to them and to the person who chose to make a donation.

    Not every copy being sold for $3.99 was for donation purposes! It started moving up the Amazon sales chart AFTER RCA and Amazon sent out tweets and an email from LDO this afternoon! Most of the donation buzz was over the weekend. :/

  • artemis

    Live It Up is currently the #1 mp3 album on Amazon. His mp3 sales are up 4000%. Goes to show what a sale price and a few promo tweets can do when you have a good album. I wouldn’t download an album for free if I didn’t like the music.

  • Brook52

    I bought several of the $3.99 mp3s for friends and I bought one for a cancer patient. I did that because everyone I have played the album for has come away feeling uplifted. I remember that when my mother was ill in the hospital for 3 months, music, many kinds of music, was a part of the healing process. She loved classical music and she loved artists like James Taylor. She would have loved this album.

  • Tess

    I personally wouldn’t “gift” a digital song or album to anyone for any reason. I may, if I knew someone’s taste itimately, give them a hard copy CD (which they could return if they so desired). Of course the amount of “gifted” music never makes a real dent in musical sales (Unless you are buying for the tween set – and we all know how it is said that Grandparents and Parents keep the disney Artists and Swift and Bieber on the top of the sales charts). How people spend their money is no concern of mine as long as they don’t guilt others into spending money they can little afford.

  • standtotheright

    There’s a certain book I’ve bought for several of my friends, and to a man they’ve all thanked me and said they loved the book, but would have never thought to buy it themselves.

    See, the difference is that you know your friends. You know what they like and dislike, and you proceeded accordingly. You didn’t decide that guy you see in the Starbucks every day reading the paper should get a gift of the book, too, because you don’t really know him.

    As I’ve said, giving music to friends or family when one understands their taste and can make an educated guess as to whether or not they will like an album is great. Giving it to strangers, who may have a completely different view of what constitutes inspirational and uplifting material, is more about self-gratification (feeling good about giving more than meeting the needs of the recipient). And the reason that it bugs me when it’s done “for” soldiers or cancer patients is that those are the people who are least able to return it or exchange it for something they’d prefer if they don’t like it. So it may just go to waste, and there is invariably a little harm in that.

    For the record, I’m assuming most of the sales today are not donations, but self-purchases or gifts of the kind I described above. I hope the people who do get the album today (and in the future) enjoy it.

  • Kitwana

    Giving it to strangers, who may have a completely different view of what constitutes inspirational and uplifting material, is more about self-gratification.

    And what exactly is the harm of obtaining some self-gratification? I truly believe that there are some Idol fans who gain happiness from seeing their favorites sell lots of CD’s and ranking high on the Billboard 200. If it makes these people happy to buy in bulk or gift in bulk in order to support their Idol, there is no harm, especially if the CD costs only $3.99, i.e. 10 CDs only sets you back $39.

    Unwanted CD’s are never wasted at my house. They make great coasters and pretty nifty Christmas tree ornaments.

  • competitivebynature

    Still $3.99 too much.

  • googletot

    Goes to show what a sale price and a few promo tweets can do when you have a good album.

    We don’t know if it’s new people buying the album or the fanatics buying more to boost Lee’s sales on an album that is not selling well.

  • superfudge

    I find the negativity about “donation” campaigns quite amusing, considering the ASPCA does it, the American Cancer Society does it, Red Cross does it, Girl Scouts of American does it, on and on..I mean if fans of Lee want to make a donation of his CD to some cancer patients, great.

    It’s just tacky IMHO because there’s clearly an ulterior motive. If someone is going to donate something do it for them, not just to prolong the obscurity of Lee.

  • wordnerdarchie

    I am 99% sure that’s not true. A sale at any price is a sale.

    There is a scenario where CD’s (physical copies) sold at less than 50 % of MSR price are not counted. It is listed in this document: Soundscan US Venue Sales Procedure I pulled the following quote:

    Product that is sold at 50% below manufacturer’s list price at a venue will not be processed

    The 50% rule here refers to sales of physical CDs that you can buy at the merch table before/during/after a concert, since they are being sold directly by the label/artist. (There are also other places, such as malls, schools, etc. where sales are not counted.) It does not refer to physical stores or online stores. At least that’s my interpretation.

  • swish5

    My father died of cancer in 1996. I still miss him. That is why I bought a second LIU CD so I could give music to a cancer patient that I personally think would bring them some happiness. It is of course their choice to listen to it or pass it on to someone else. Molly

  • glamertitis

    I hope all his fans are buying the most with that 3.99 sale and giving the digital mp3 to every stranger they come across and any charity they can think of! Tweet the hell out of it and give, give give! WTG Lee fans! Don’t forget your family and friends too!
    Nothing works better for success than notoriety, word of mouth and free stuff! :)-ETA I see Lee is #1across the board over at Amazon – good job everyone

  • kvwicks13

    Congrats to Lee for hitting #1 on Amazon Movers and Shakers, Hot New Releases and Best Sellers!

  • ItsMyT1me

    Worked late tonight, but have been following Live It Up’s success on twitter. Don’t know if this has been posted yet, but it’s not on this page.

    Sales up 4100% What?! That’s crazy. Maybe someone who knows more about this chart can tell me what this means. Amazon’s site says this version of the CD (mp3) has been in the top 100 for the last 9 days, so we know it was selling before the sale was announced by RCA and Amazon today. It also says this percentage is updated hourly. So does Amazon change the % sold based on each hour of sales or is it cumulative over some period of time and just updated hourly? If the latter, does anyone know what the time period is? Thanks.

  • Dlynne

    It’s just tacky because there’s clearly an ulterior motive. If someone is going to donate something do it for them, not just to prolong the obscurity of Lee.

    I don’t think it’s in the least bit tacky. Companies give away free products all of the time and people gladly accept them whether it’s something they actually pined for or not. It’s a great way to introduce something new to consumers; otherwise, it wouldn’t be done to the degree it is.

    When I’m given something free and I don’t like it or have a use for it, I give it to someone who does. It’s a win/win for everyone. Who doesn’t like to get free stuff?

    ETA: It looks like the sale paid off. Way to go, Lee! #1 looks good on you!

  • aprilfoolish

    Cost IS a factor for many people these days and the discounted price helps. I gifted a few to people I know but certainly think donating is a fine idea. As a fan, I want people to listen to his music. That is why getting radio adds and spins and that ai number is for, right? When Lee did tailgate party, I heard they gave random people his album. Maybe some would have prefered the 8 dollar beer but if they gave it a listen or gave it to the kid that does their lawn, then maybe Lee gains a new fan. I feel the same about the donating, it is an unsolicited gift that gives people who might not have had a chance to hear his music. About the same as giving a collection of uplifting books to a hospital waiting room, where people can read, or not read. I happen to think Lee’s album is wonderful, so of course I’d want to promote it. If I was at the market where they had a product they wanted me to sample, should I say I was offended because I don’t like what they were offering? I most likely might give it a try, and might or might not like it, but I wouldn’t have tried it if I had to buy the ingredients. Anyhow, all things seem to point to Lee going slow and steady, and I can’t wait for each next step.

  • webster

    Companies give away free products all of the time and people gladly accept them whether it’s something they actually pined for or not. It’s a great way to introduce something new to consumers; otherwise, it wouldn’t be done to the degree it is.

    Excellent way to promote one’s own product, and probably provides some sort of tax write-off or something. And nothing wrong with it as long as the accounting clearly shows to investors (or whoever else cares about the popularity of the product) that these were promotional give aways, not sales that indicate brand strength.

    I haven’t read the beginning of this thread, but if Lee is giving his CDs to cancer patients, more power to him. If fans are buying to give, then the analogy to corporate donations fails, IMO. Worse, (1) the fan purchases create sales numbers which in turn gives potential investors erroneous info about Lee’s brand strength, and (2) targeting cancer patients (or soldiers, or whatever) is less like trying to do market research and more like capitalizing on some sitting-duck population. I’m sure on some level people mean well, but these things always sound like: think of what the artist needs first, and then concoct a way to make that sound virtuous.

  • superfudge

    Anyhow, all things seem to point to Lee going slow and steady, and I can’t wait for each next step.

    I don’t care for Lee but being completely unbiased the truth is that if Lee doesn’t have a hit single by now then he’s following in the footsteps of Taylor Hicks unless he grabs a role in a Dream Girls remake to make him relevant again. It’s just how it is. Fortunately for someone like David Cook who has been working on another album for quite a while, he has TOML, Light On, and even CBTM that went gold so he’s still fairly memorable.

  • Dlynne

    I haven’t read the beginning of this thread, but if Lee is giving his CDs to cancer patients, more power to him.

    Just to clear this up, fans are donating CDs.

    ETA: I apologize. I knew it was MP3s that are being donated. I mistyped CDs instead.

  • ItsMyT1me

    And even though Light On went platinum, it was deemed a major failure on this board in its first two months as well, so perhaps a different comparison if the attempt is to say Sweet Serendipity is somehow a failure after such a short time. But that’s off topic anyway.

    So how about that 4100% huh?
    And #1 on Best Sellers MP3
    And #1 on Pop MP3
    And #1 on Hot New Releases MP3
    And #1 on Movers & Shakers

    Does anyone think that the 180 copies that were gifted equate to those sales? But then again, weren’t the charity donations yesterday? These numbers are from today, the last 3 hours or so. If I did the math right, and LIU sold 5 copies before the sale started then a 4100% increase would be just over 200 copies. But LIU was in the top 100 for 9 days previously so it had to have sold more than 5 copies before the sale. Well, I guess the 180 charity copies aren’t the whole reason why LIU is #1 on all the mp3 charts and has increased sales by 4100%. Hmmm. So much to ponder.

  • glamertitis

    I disagree about the “marketing research perspective” – marketing knows this is what fans do. Of course fans are going to buy when the cd is on sale. So are new fans and people who purposely wait until the cd goes on sale. Whether a fan buys 1 copy or 10, the bottom line is how many cds sell. It’s called profit and investers take the profit however it comes.

  • tigervixxxen

    It is too bad Lee doesn’t have the support of a certain doctor from Alaska who will buy thousands of CDs on his behalf.

  • Dlynne

    I don’t care for Lee but being completely unbiased the truth is that if Lee doesn’t have a hit single by now then he’s following in the footsteps of Taylor Hicks unless he grabs a role in a Dream Girls remake to make him relevant again. It’s just how it is. Fortunately for someone like David Cook who has been working on another album for quite a while, he has TOML, Light On, and even CBTM that went gold so he’s still fairly memorable.

    Little Lion Man was released in September 2009 and began charting a couple of months ago. The song and the album has been a very slow burn and has since received Grammy noms.

    The Dog Days are Over was released in the US in December 2008. Same scenario as Little Lion Man.

    Hey Soul Sister was on the charts for 16 weeks, hovering around #23, before it shot up to #7. We all know how that story goes. 5 million copies sold.

    Use Somebody was released in December 2008 and didn’t reach peak position until late 2009.

    I could list more.

    ETA: These songs had radio play on AAA or HAC stations for months before they charted on Top 40.

  • superfudge

    And even though Light On went platinum, it was deemed a major failure on this board in its first two months as well, so perhaps a different comparison if the attempt is to say Sweet Serendipity is somehow a failure after such a short time. But that’s off topic anyway.

    Light On sold close to 110,000 downloads in it’s first week. SS has sold 18,000 total since October. SS is a failure, tbh. RCA should’ve recalled SS and released a different single.

    Little Lion Man was released in September 2009 and began charting a couple of months ago. The song and the album has been a very slow burn and has since received Grammy noms.

    The Dog Days are Over was released in the US in December 2008. Same scenario as Little Lion Man.

    Hey Soul Sister was on the charts for 16 weeks, hovering around #23, before it shot up to #7. We all know how that story goes. 5 million copies sold.

    Use Somebody was released in December 2008 and didn’t reach peak position until late 2009.

    I could list more.

    Those people didn’t just come off the biggest talent show in the world. They are legitimate artists who have to work to promote their music. Lee had the biggest promo tool (Idol) in the world and his single still flopped. Your first post-idol single should be a fairly easy sell as long as it’s decent. RCA knew they messed it up with FYE and fixed it for Adam which was smart.

  • tigervixxxen

    hmm, wonder where the nickname of Platinum Boat Anchor came from. I have no idea???? When LO was compared to Crush people were deeming it a failure.

    A single is not a failure because it hasn’t lived up to the inflated expectations of Idol fans. SS has charted and is still gaining spins and adds. If it never hits #1 or #10 or whatever it still will not be a failure. Not everyone has to be Carrie Underwood or Lady Gaga to have a career. Taylor Hicks never had mainstream radio play. But guess what, even he has a career.

  • kvwicks13

    Your first post-idol single should be a fairly easy sell.

    We all know that Season 9 did not have as many viewers as previous years, millions less, I believe. So anyone who won this year was not going to have the numbers that previous winners and runnerups had. Its not a fair comparison.

  • Dlynne

    Light On sold close to 110,000 downloads in it’s first week. SS has sold 18,000 total since October. SS is a failure, tbh. RCA should’ve recalled SS and released a different single.

    We shall see, won’t we?

  • glamertitis

    Light On sold close to 110,000 downloads in it’s first week.

    Considering Cook came off the largest watched reality show in the world as well, that amount of sales isn’t that great either when you think about the millions who should have bought.
    I think most coming off this show will have to take the slow climb. I doubt anyone is going to sell big off this show anymore.

  • superfudge

    We all know that Season 9 did not have as many viewers as previous years, millions less, I believe. So anyone who won this year was not going to have the numbers that previous winners and runnerups had. Its not a fair comparison.

    Regardless, if you look at the dynamics that idol has at least 20 million viewers and Lee’s first single has sold 18,000 copies since October it makes you wonder where all the people that voted for him went. Especially since he did extremely well in iTunes sales during the season. It’s normal for people to gradually lose interest but man.

    Considering Cook came off the largest watched reality show in the world as well, that amount of sales isn’t that great either when you think about the millions who should have bought.

    Considering it was his first week with no promotion that’s actually pretty good. Light On wasn’t really a “pop” mainstream kinda song so it was never expected it to be at the top of the iTunes top 100 or anything but SS was clearly designed as a poppy fun single and it’s just tanked.

  • Dlynne

    Those people didn’t just come off the biggest talent show in the world. They are legitimate artists who have to work to promote their music. Lee had the biggest promo tool (Idol) in the world and his single still flopped. Your first post-idol single should be a fairly easy sell as long as it’s decent. RCA knew they messed it up with FYE and fixed it for Adam which was smart.

    Are you saying that the winners of AI are not legitimate artists?

  • ItsMyT1me

    I don’t want anyone to misconstrue my comment. I FLOVE David Cook. I was merely regurgitating (yes, I chose that word carefully) the sentiment on THIS board when Light On was released which was that it was a failure that was going to sink David Cook’s career. It went on to sell over a million. Dlynne offered a whole bunch of other examples of slow burns that have made tons of money.

    Attempting to spin Sweet Serendipity as a failure is illogical because all indicators point otherwise. Spins are up, major markets have been added, chart position is up, VH1 video is up. It goes for CHR adds in two weeks. RCA obviously doesn’t agree with a poster at MJs if they are willing to pay for CHR promo.

    But anyway, back to the topic of the thread.
    So how about that 4100% increase?
    Oh, that’s right. I already said that.

  • everything

    We all know that Season 9 did not have as many viewers as previous years, millions less, I believe. So anyone who won this year was not going to have the numbers that previous winners and runnerups had. Its not a fair comparison.

    Even though ratings were down, Season 9 still had a huge audience. And the reason most given as to why the ratings were down – the lack of talent that Season 9 had to offer. And Lee Dewyze was part of that group. And Crystal is selling better than Lee.

    There is nothing unique or special about Lee that will make him competitive. He is a mediocre talent at best. His album and video are mediocre. And in the most important time of his professional life, he has put on a lot of weight, which just makes him even look shorter.

    He most likely will be dropped by RCA by the time they announce the new Idol for Season 10.

  • kvwicks13

    it makes you wonder where all the people that voted for him went.

    I think that many people still don’t know that his CD and even Crystal’s are out. Many coworkers and friends of mine watched idol during the year we talked about it every Tuesday and Wednesday. When I recently brought up did you buy Lee or Crystal’s CD, almost all of them said they didn’t even know the CDs were out.

    By the way, Season 9 was my favorite of all the 9 seasons of idol!

  • Elliegrll

    it makes you wonder where all the people that voted for him went.

    Just because someone votes for a contestant that doesn’t mean that they will buy the cd. Most viewers can separate the show from what they do in their real lives. I voted four hours straight for Cook on the night of the finale, but I only purchased the coronation song and Light On, because those were the only two songs of his that I like.

    And Crystal is selling better than Lee.

    Not really. They are selling about the same, and Crystal was just as much a part of the problems of season 9 as Lee, which is why her numbers are pretty much the same as Lee’s.

  • aprilfoolish

    I think that many people still don’t know that his CD and even Crystal’s are out. Many coworkers and friends of mine watched idol during the year we talked about it every Tuesday and Wednesday. When I recently brought up did you buy Lee or Crystal’s CD, almost all of them said they didn’t even know the CDs were out.

    ita, before season nine I was semi casual fan of the show, (since season 5) and picked my favorites, voted half heartedly, and then sort of forgot about it. When I’d hear idol music I was totally not really looking for it. But I wouldn’t have known about it if I hadn’t HEARD the music. People have commented here that chr is where you get more spins, which many were surprized RCA didn’t push SS there like they’ve done for others. Some said maybe RCA is going for long term and not blowing the whole wad on promotion until Lee builds up his beyond idol fan base. So I am going to be pleased by ALL things positive that happen for Lee and not fret too much. Lee knows he has to work hard, and I think he has fine work ethic. So three months out of the gate I don’t see why so many are ready to pull the plug. They don’t have anything invested, like his fans do, or RCA does, or Lee does, so the future is still an unwritten book.

  • jennyl

    For all those reading the future what are next weeks lotto numbers? Could use some cash! Whatever happens with Lee I will always be a fan!
    Im really happy to see Live it up # 1!

    Lol! I could too. Lee is a tough cookie and so are his fans. Whatevers happens to Lee, come hail,storm, doom and gloom I will always support him because he is talented and I think I can speak for all his other fans. I’m loving LIU at #1 too!.

  • Tess

    People ARE NOT purchasing $3.99 CDS..they are purchasing MP3 files that need to be transferred to a disk, a hand held device, or a computer. I just think MP3s are more restrictive and cumbersome, by nature, and would assume that gifting would be a bit more desirable if an actual CD was involved…these recipients could exchange, or donate to a CD library, or pass on to someone else it they themselves didn’t enjoy the content.

    On the issue that peeps don’t know Lee and Crystal have albums out and that that is a contributing factor in poor sales…just nope! Lee and Crystal have had exactly the same promo that 8 earlier seasons of Idol finalists have had and for 8 seasons purchasers have known when an Idol album has come out and have purchased it. To say that this season AI viewers aren’t “aware” is ludicrous. Why would this year be an anomoly?

  • gangreen29

    I wonder if the comments on donating to charity would have been the same if the CD in question is not a Lee DeWyze CD but a CD by some other popular singers.

    I have seen the same comments about every single idol fanbase that has tried this in the past, so yes they would be the same.

  • glamertitis

    I just think MP3s are more restrictive and cumbersome, by nature, and would

    not for most teenagers and major music buyers – they rarely buy the physical CD anymore. Everything goes on ipads and iphone so why do they want the actual cd?

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    I am pretty sure that Soundscan does not count purchases below 50% of the original price.

    THEY DO COUNT.

    This silly myth has been debunked over and over and over again. I’m going to start moderating people who insist on arguing otherwise.

  • http://twitter.com/maxsmom61 CathyMK

    I just think MP3s are more restrictive and cumbersome, by nature, and would assume that gifting would be a bit more desirable if an actual CD was involved…these recipients could exchange, or donate to a CD library, or pass on to someone else it they themselves didn’t enjoy the content.

    This is ludicrous. The music industry is being brought down by file sharing because it’s so much simpler to get and share mp3s than physical CDs. People can exchange or gift or donate mp3s instantaneously with people who are on the other side of the world. I’m sure the cancer center these are being donated to is living in the 21st century and knows how to distribute mp3s. If someone accidentally gets one they don’t want, they can hit the delete button and it’s gone. No messy CDs cluttering up a small hospital room or being used as coasters or whatever.

    I can’t wait to see what Lee’s sales are for this week. I’ve always wondered how much those Amazon sales really sell. Should be interesting to compare last week’s sales to this week’s.

  • TheOther

    On the issue that peeps don’t know Lee and Crystal have albums out and that that is a contributing factor in poor sales…just nope! Lee and Crystal have had exactly the same promo that 8 earlier seasons of Idol finalists have had and for 8 seasons purchasers have known when an Idol album has come out and have purchased it. To say that this season AI viewers aren’t “aware” is ludicrous. Why would this year be an anomoly?

    I agree. Also most people in this day and age have access to the internet. And if they don’t, they likely know someone who does. So it doesn’t make any sense that those who follow Lee and Crystal on the show, have no idea they have albums out. All they need to do is a quick internet search – that’s if they were actually fans of their music.

    A more likely scenario to what happened to those people who voted for Lee and Crystal? The reviews and word of mouth to their CD’s were so weak that a lot of people just weren’t interested and have moved on.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Attempting to spin Sweet Serendipity as a failure is illogical because all indicators point otherwise. Spins are up, major markets have been added, chart position is up, VH1 video is up. It goes for CHR adds in two weeks. RCA obviously doesn’t agree with a poster at MJs if they are willing to pay for CHR promo.

    Album & Single sales are way down.
    SS spins are up but he is still hundreds of spins behind #20.
    SS has no top 10 market adds on HAC
    VH1 video is up but moving at a snails pace compared to other idol videos. With some major artists releasing music and videos soon it will need to have a major jump real soon.
    It’s too soon to know if RCA will put promo dollars behind SS. Just because it has an add date means nothing at this point.

  • ItsMyT1me

    Let’s see, all indicators are up, so how can we make it look like its a failure.

    Hmmm. Think. Think. How to make positive movement look negative? (scratches head)

    Oh, I’ve got it! Let’s say the positive movement is not positive enough! Yeah, that will do it. Failure!

  • Brook52

    I think that those of us who post here are the people who use the internet… a lot. There is a whole other world out there! Many people whom I know- are not as tech savy. Every year the school where I work has a parent night that has coincided with the last night of American Idol, by some weird happenstance, and people are always upset about this. So you would think that these people who can’t miss the ending would be the people who would know about buying the CDs. Right? No! I have never bought a CD from any season before- and when I mentioned that Lee’s and Crystal’s CDs were available the parents were surprised. We live in the idol bubble here. I do not know what kind of promotion other idols got because I have never paid attention before- But the stores around me- that would help with impulse buying or letting those people know that the albums were out- had Lees and then Crystals- but now have not restocked. In Borders there use to be a huge music section and now that has basically gone away. So for the fans of the show who might have picked up a CD because they saw it at the store- that does not happen much anymore. I actually asked my local Walmart if they could get a few more and they basically said they would ask their supplier and it did not happen. So I went online and bought them as gifts for people who were fans of both but not the type to buy online. And they love the albums. I gave the mp3′s to the “younger” people in my family who never ever buy CDs anymore- all of their music is on their ipods. I know that I will be a fan of Lee Dewyze’s music forever. And so selfishly I am happy when sales are up because then I know it means that it is more likely that I will get to hear more from Lee as an artist.

  • Niall

    Well with an amazing 445,345.23% increase, as well as the new fan developed “terminally ill” demographic, I’ll bet that gold album certification is merely days away. ;) Oh Lordy, gotta love idol fans, bless their lil hearts…

  • BeachBum

    Man, I’m ready for season 10. Not because I didn’t like season 9. Actually, S9 was my favorite season EVER and the only season I every voted… and only season I purchased the album of any of the contestants (Crystal’s CD and a couple of Lee’s singles not named SS). It’s just kind of sad that people have to put any of these contestants down. I’ve even heard rumors and innuendo about some fans “rearranging” CD’s in music and department stores in order to either affect the sales of their favorite in a positive way or another contestant in a negative way. Anyone who does anything like that is a pathetic human being. Lee, Crystal or any new artist has a tough enough time trying to “make it” in today’s music industry without being sabotaged by fantards of any contestant. I also have no problem with anyone using their money to purchase ANYTHING for ANY reason (gift, used for a drink coaster, wipe your nose or butt, wear as a hat, sex toy etc.) It’s called capitalism and it’s your right and my right to use money to purchase any goods or services for any legal reason. To me, season 9 ended about 1 week after the finale. Yes, it took me a little time to get over Lee “beating” Crystal, but it’s been OVER since May and time to let it go and move on. I look forward to arguing… I mean discussing next season’s contestants and letting Lee, Crystal, David, Adam, Casey, Kris, Katie, Siobhan and all other former AI contestants fight like HELL to have a successful career in the music or entertainment industry. As far as this thread goes, I wish Lee the best and BRING ON SEASON 10!! Oh yeah, and ROCK ON!!!!

  • Kitwana

    The $3.99 MP3 sale is now a pretty common part of Amazon’s marketing strategy. Not all $3.99 MP3′s go to #1. Lee reaching #1 is a real achievement.

  • ItsMyT1me

    Niall,

    Oops. Decimal’s in the wrong place. It’s only 4,100% but thanks for the recognition.

    And your good will towards the terminally ill is really touching. You have quite a generous heart :)

  • karenc

    This is terrific for Lee. I think, although Lee and Crystal were on Idol, the audience was much smaller than in the past. If their albums and singles are going to do well they will follow the path closer to other new artists who had not been on the show. Both albums have sold about the same, which could even out over time. It sounds like there is some interest in Lee’s cd if it sold that much on sale. Maybe part of the reason for low cd sales overall is in part economics if the sale made that much of a difference. But one or the other can really take off if they have a hit.

    And just about every Idol viewer I know in real life does not buy the albums when they come out. I have spoken to some that did not even know they had albums out even though they were their favorites on the show. Even for ones that have been out for a couple of years and were extremly popular. Maybe sales for idols would be better if they did more promotion of the cds to idol viewers.

  • karenc

    Itsmytime:

    Let’s see, all indicators are up, so how can we make it look like its a failure.

    Hmmm. Think. Think. How to make positive movement look negative? (scratches head)

    Oh, I’ve got it! Let’s say the positive movement is not positive enough! Yeah, that will do it. Failure!

    That’s exactly what I’m seeing too. And for some more than others.

  • MonochromaticFriend

    everything: There is nothing unique or special about Lee that will make him competitive. He is a mediocre talent at best. His album and video are mediocre.

    I disagree with that, but I doubt that would be a fruitful argument. I will say this: his singles have the potential to make him competitive. I personally think SS isn’t his biggest chance for a hit on the radio, although it could end up doing well for him in the long run. No one can say at this point whether SS’s slow trajectory upward is due to lack of enthusiasm for the song, or simply a modest push from the label.

    And, I don’t see why other slow growers from non-AI artists can’t be used as an examples. Yes, there’s a link between fanbase size coming off the show and how much $$ your label is willing to pour into you. There is not necessarily a link between fanbase size coming off the show and how radio-friendly your singles are. I agree, there’s not a magical sign from….I dunno, the radio gods?..that RCA/19 are going to pour a ton of $$ into SS. But the thing’s not dead.

    And, cool about LIU reaching #1 on Amazon’s MP3 chart. It’s not huge numbers, but cool nonetheless.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    If fans are buying to give, then the analogy to corporate donations fails, IMO. Worse, (1) the fan purchases create sales numbers which in turn gives potential investors erroneous info about Lee’s brand strength, and (2) targeting cancer patients (or soldiers, or whatever) is less like trying to do market research and more like capitalizing on some sitting-duck population. I’m sure on some level people mean well, but these things always sound like: think of what the artist needs first, and then concoct a way to make that sound virtuous.

    Yes, this describes my objection to these donations, although for me it’s less about (1) and much more about (2).

    It’s just tacky IMHO because there’s clearly an ulterior motive. If someone is going to donate something do it for them, not just to prolong the obscurity of Lee.

    I agree, and not just for Lee, but anyone. If fans want to help people who are ill or the troops or whomever, find out what THEY want, then give it to them. I disagree with padding sales of anyone for these donations, then trying to represent it as a selfless, charitable act. It is what it is.

    I wonder if the comments on donating to charity would have been the same if the CD in question is not a Lee DeWyze CD but a CD by some other popular singers.

    I don’t care who it is, I feel the same way. IMO, it’s even worse coming from fans of someone who desperately needs CD sales and is not a popular singer, because it appears that there’s more of a promotional motive involved. Some fans are so blinded by their love for a singer that they can’t fathom how anyone wouldn’t love a gift of their favorite’s music. In reality, if they truly want to help ill people (or others), they would provide what they want, including any requests for music (e.g. gift them an iTunes card).

  • fuzzywuzzy

    And Crystal is selling better than Lee.
    —–
    Not really. They are selling about the same, and Crystal was just as much a part of the problems of season 9 as Lee, which is why her numbers are pretty much the same as Lee’s.

    I agree, both are selling far less than should be expected from an Idol winner and runner-up, and the difference doesn’t warrant any claims to Crystal selling better.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I’ve even heard rumors and innuendo about some fans “rearranging” CD’s in music and department stores in order to either affect the sales of their favorite in a positive way or another contestant in a negative way. Anyone who does anything like that is a pathetic human being.

    That’s old news and has been happening since the beginning of Idol, every single year.

    I also have no problem with anyone using their money to purchase ANYTHING for ANY reason (gift, used for a drink coaster, wipe your nose or butt, wear as a hat, sex toy etc.) It’s called capitalism and it’s your right and my right to use money to purchase any goods or services for any legal reason.

    I agree. My objection is when CD donations are represented as selfless, charitable acts when there is clearly an ulterior motive. It is what it is.

  • poster

    (2) targeting cancer patients (or soldiers, or whatever) is less like trying to do market research and more like capitalizing on some sitting-duck population.

    Whoa, harsh.

    If the MP3 people are donating cost $10, I can maybe see the argument of giving them a choice. But it’s $3.99 today…thus the reason for donating. People can afford to donate..and they get 10 songs for that amount. It’s a bargain. A $3.99 Itunes gift card or Amazon gift card would maybe get them 3 songs, at best.

    The hospital I work at has a Cancer Center. In the lobby is a beautiful baby grand piano that volunteers can sign up to play for 1 hour or so. Each person who plays has a different type of music: some play variety, some play classical, there’s even a wonderful lady who plays ragtime music which is very entertaining. And the patients and their families love it! Do they all have ragtime music on their ipods-my guess would be not. But they enjoy the music-even though it’s what the performer likes, not what the patients necessarily like. It’s all good.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Especially since he did extremely well in iTunes sales during the season.

    Sales of Idol songs during the season aren’t normally disclosed. Were Lee’s iTunes sales from the show posted somewhere? How well is “extremely well”?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    If the MP3 people are donating cost $10, I can maybe see the argument of giving them a choice. But it’s $3.99 today…thus the reason for donating. People can afford to donate..and they get 10 songs for that amount. It’s a bargain. A $3.99 Itunes gift card or Amazon gift card would maybe get them 3 songs, at best.

    I guarantee that people would rather have 3 songs that they want to listen to rather than 10 songs that they dislike. I know that I would. Regardless, it’s still all about boosting Lee’s sales, right?

    The hospital I work at has a Cancer Center. In the lobby is a beautiful baby grand piano that volunteers can sign up to play for 1 hour or so. Each person who plays has a different type of music: some play variety, some play classical, there’s even a wonderful lady who plays ragtime music which is very entertaining. And the patients and their families love it! Do they all have ragtime music on their ipods-my guess would be not. But they enjoy the music-even though it’s what the performer likes, not what the patients necessarily like. It’s all good.

    Not an analogous situation. Buying and donating CDs/mp3s primarily to boost the sales of a singer, without regard for the wishes of the recipients, then representing it as a selfless act is entirely different.

  • jennyl

    Its amazing when a simple act of giving to share needs to be analysed, questioned and construe as selfish. The songs were bought with hard earned money and were given to cancer patients because the message of one of its songs had helped inspired a patient. Nobody claimed that it was given not to help the singer. It was also given with good intentions to help the patients.

  • koshka

    jennyl:
    01/11/2011 at 6:49 am
    Its amazing when a simple act of giving to share needs to be analysed, questioned and construe as selfish. The songs were bought with hard earned money and were given to cancer patients because the message of one of its songs had helped inspired a patient. Nobody claimed that it was not given to help the singer but it was also given with good intentions to help the patients. Would that be so impossible to believe?

    IDK Inspiration can come from many different places. The question to me is, how would you feel having one of the following artist donated to you? Lady Gaga, Ke$ha, The Black Keys, Beiber, The Big Time Rush or the Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs. For most people, if its not music to their ears then the CD becomes a coaster & a waste of money.

  • jennyl

    IDK Inspiration can come from many different places. The question to me is, how would you feel having one of the following artist donated to you? Lady Gaga, Ke$ha, The Black Keys, Beiber, The Big Time Rush or the Yeah, Yeah, Yeahs. For most people, if its not music to their ears then the CD becomes a coaster & a waste of money.

    Frankly, I would just appreciate the thought that the giver had was to help cheer and inspire me and I would thank them for it even if the music was not to my taste.

  • Brook52

    I would say thank you very much, and do you also have something that speaks to my soul and makes me feel uplifted everytime I hear the songs?..hmmm like Lee Dewyze. I mentioned my mom being in the hospital for a while- but I was also on bedrest in the hospital for 2 weeks once – and they would come around with a cart of magazines, books, etc. My husband had set up a tape recorder with headphones for me so that I could listen to classical music, James Taylor, etc.- I would have loved the offer of..Lee Dewyze.

  • kvwicks13

    Just so you all know, if you receive a gifted music download from Amazon, you can exchange it for Amazon store credit. So if someone receives an album they did not want, Amazon gives you the option to trade it in. It tells you this duruing the download process as well. This avoids people forcing music down other peoples throats as some of you have referred to.

  • jennyl

    Just so you all know, if you receive a gifted music download from Amazon, you can exchange it for Amazon store credit. So if someone receives an album they did not want, Amazon gives you the option to trade it in. It tells you this duruing the download process as well. This avoids people forcing music down other peoples throats as some of you have referred to.

    lol! I didn’t know that. I would have also liked to donate however I can’t cause I don’t live in the US.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Its amazing when a simple act of giving to share needs to be analysed, questioned and construe as selfish. The songs were bought with hard earned money and were given to cancer patients because the message of one of its songs had helped inspired a patient. Nobody claimed that it was given not to help the singer. It was also given with good intentions to help the patients.

    Please. It’s hardly a “simple of act of giving” when the primary motivation for buying the CD in the first place was to boost sales (I don’t think that anyone should deny this). A simple act of giving would be to give something that the patients want/need or give them a choice. I’m sorry, but when fans start claiming that giving Lee’s discounted album to cancer patients was so “heartwarming”, clearly an attempt was being made to obscure the motivation for buying and donating in the first place and represent the act as selfless and charitable. I find that objectionable and distasteful.

  • J9BT

    jennyl:
    01/11/2011 at 6:49 am
    Its amazing when a simple act of giving to share needs to be analysed, questioned and construe as selfish.

    This seems to happen every season in IDOL fandom. Followed by an argument over sales numbers.

  • jennyl

    Please. It’s hardly a “simple of act of giving” when the primary motivation for buying the CD in the first place was to boost sales (I don’t think that anyone should deny this). A simple act of giving would be to give something that the patients want/need or give them a choice. I’m sorry, but when fans start claiming that giving Lee’s discounted album to cancer patients was so “heartwarming”, clearly an attempt was being made to obscure the motivation for buying and donating in the first place and represent the act as selfless and charitable. I find that objectionable and distasteful.

    As posted above, the patients had a choice.

  • ItsMyT1me

    Totally off topic, but thank you poster, for sharing the story of your hospital. What a beautiful idea. :)

  • Allison

    Many coworkers and friends of mine watched idol during the year we talked about it every Tuesday and Wednesday. When I recently brought up did you buy Lee or Crystal’s CD, almost all of them said they didn’t even know the CDs were out.

    By the way, Season 9 was my favorite of all the 9 seasons of idol!

    I can’t say I’ve had an enthusiastic, positive, conversation with other adults about Idol since Season 5.

    Maybe sales for idols would be better if they did more promotion of the cds to idol viewers.

    Like a commercial during Idol, esp. after an ex-Idol performs. Or if that’s too expensive for the record label, have Ryan hold up the album and he says “Now available on Amazon (or I-Tunes) for $X.XX. “. IMO That would move product.

  • Tess

    Well, it will be interesting to see the numbers next week. Since Lee is now #1 on Amazon (Digital) his numbers should soar and he should be flying back into the top 50 of the Billboard 200. I, personally, don’t think this will happen because I haven’t seen any wide spread indication that Lee is “catching on” with the general public and the media…and I looked up Lee “news” on google before I keyboarded this and the only news that I found for Lee is that Crystal is winning the numbers race for Season 9.

    Unless Lee can find a way to get people interested in him as a person he has little chance of immediate success. Reviews for his album have not been steller and he hasn’t found a radio station to “champion” him yet, and his audience impression on his single is very low for a song that has been out for over 2 months.

  • jpfan

    Gifting music is a constant in Idol world. At least this doesn’t seem as insane (to me) as the fan who supposedly spending $12,000 buying (and I assume gifting) music from various S8 Idols.

    Being #1 on Amazon Movers and Shakers or Digital isn’t the same as being #1 on the BB200 (obviously). ;)

  • Landmd

    Lee fans know its not going to add a ton to his sales. It just fun seeing LIU at number 1!

  • artemis

    jpfan-I know mp3s on Amazon don’t sell huge numbers, but Lee was #1 in mp3 albums yesterday after Amazon tweeted about the sale, and I just checked and he’s still #1 -I love typing that :) and Live It Up is still on sale for $3.99-I guess Amazon decided to extend the sale because Lee is selling so well.
    When I heard about the sale the past weekend, I bought a few extra, not to compete with Crystal fans in a sales competition, but to help Lee. In addition to all the other factors bringing music sales down, Lee comes from Chicago, which has a huge music and entertainment scene. He didn’t get the home area sales boost that Idols from smaller cities get.
    Packgirl12 is a friend of mine and a regular poster here at MJs. She had told me about her niece’s struggle with cancer and her reaction to “Beautiful Like You” some time ago and I was very moved. When she told me the cancer center wanted the mp3s to offer to patients who wanted them, I sent my extras to them.In no way do I think this makes me some kind of humanitarian. I’m just glad to share Lee’s music with people who want it.

  • ldjfan

    Since hanging out with Lee fans I have come to realize that Lee seems to attract many warm, thoughtful and generous people. I cant speak for all of those who donated but I am sure most of these donations were made because we enjoy Lee’s music so much and it makes us ‘feel’ so good that we believe that it really may bring a little happiness to some of these cancer victims. The last count for these donations that I heard was 181. None of us believe that number will make any difference for LIU sales totals. But if it helps a even a few people feel a little better, we can feel proud that we were a part of it.

  • rivermaya

    My husband is a cancer survivor ( 11 years cancer free now).
    Since then we have both been advocates and supporter of the American Cancer Society.
    When I learned of Packgirls’ cancer project and the story behind it, I did not hesitate to sign up for it.
    Not only am I supporting my charity of choice ( not ACS but still for the same cause) but also supporting my favorite artist, Lee DeWyze.

    As much as I am passionate in helping my favorite charity, I am definitely as passionate in helping Lee.
    Now how many chances do I get to kill two birds with one stone. So why not?

  • poster

    Not an analogous situation. Buying and donating CDs/mp3s primarily to boost the sales of a singer, without regard for the wishes of the recipients, then representing it as a selfless act is entirely different

    fuzzywuzzy: I was just trying to show you the view from the patient’s side. I personally did not donate any mp3′s to these patients, but I can bet the vast majority were very happy to get them. You probably have a point that there is an ulterior motive to the donations (ie: boost album sales), but that part isn’t really a concern to a patient with cancer. I’m glad for people like Lee’s fans and their donations, however they may come about.

  • tigervixxxen

    Lee fans know its not going to add a ton to his sales

    Exactly, we are not stupid and we understand Amazon is a small share of the market and Amazon digital is an even smaller share. This isn’t an effort to “boost sales” like the efforts by other fanbases to get their favorite to platinum and so on. Yes, any sales increase is positive but we know the fans don’t have that much power to spurn hundreds of thousands worth of sales. The whole point is to spread Lee’s music so when there is a deep discount like the one we experienced it was an opportunity to spread that music much further than we were able to prior to the sale. Nobody that I’m aware of bought a bunch of copies for themselves, they were all given to someone. Maybe non fans don’t understand this but we are not supporting Lee to see his name up in lights as a superstar or are waiting around for his huge numbers to arrive someday and have outside fans and media validate us. We support Lee because we believe in him and the music and that some other people will enjoy the music if they just had the chance to. I really don’t think that is too far fetched of a concept.

  • Landmd

    Well said Tigervixxxen thank you!! For those still lurking LIU MP3′s are now priced at 6.99.

  • karenc

    Tigervixxen:

    . Maybe non fans don’t understand this but we are not supporting Lee to see his name up in lights as a superstar or are waiting around for his huge numbers to arrive someday and have outside fans and media validate us. We support Lee because we believe in him and the music and that some other people will enjoy the music if they just had the chance to. I really don’t think that is too far fetched of a concept.

    Well said. I think Lee is doing well for a new artist. He might not be the biggest star to come out of Idol, but I don’t think that should matter, his success shouldn’t be gauged upon others from the show. He has his own fans that really like him and hopefully he could build upon that. And I realize not everyone likes him, but that’s true for all singers.