Kris Allen on Live Like We’re Dying: “We kind of just fell in love with it. Everyone did.” Plus, it Hits iTunes 09/29

That’s a pity. I’m hoping most of his album doesn’t sound like “Live Like We’re Dying.”
Then again LLWD sounds commercial so maybe this is good for him.

If they really love the song as early as May, why did it take this long to release it? Its that the best they can come up with in almost 5 months? Yikes.

I am cool with Kris, but disappointed that the first single is a cover song that sounds like the original. What is behind that strategy?

Now who can now say that 19E is ignoring Kris. It seems that they have a lot in store for him. I guess he now learns that he cannot only work with one producer.

Are we now expecting an eclectic album from him now that he is working with different producers? I recall him saying that his album will also have different sounds with him at the center (Actually, I’ve heard this line before).

I FLIVE LLWD.now I have to go back to the boring world of inequalities…yaaay:( ttyl

I fell in love with the song too! Hooray for Kris! It’ll be a hit!

I wasn’t a fan of the band singing it however I knew Kris could turn the song around just like he did with Heartless. Maybe everything Kris touches will turn to platinum. It is catchy and I think the Jason Mraz type fans will like it.

@jambajim Jive told me today Live Like We’re Dying will hit iTunes NEXT Tues. Also, Extra was at Z-100 w/ Kris today. Set your TiVos 4 tonite!
10 minutes ago from web

Yeah I guess it’s just not my cuppa tea, I’m kinda bummed too that his first single is a cover. Kris sounds good vocally just not my type of song.

Well we learned, that as expected, Kris ended up working with several producers, he had talked about possibly working with one for the album, but that wasn’t realistic with the time he had, imho.

And we learn that he’s working with them some more to make more tunes. And not related, but we learn the name of another song of Kris’s, one he wrote “I Need To Know.” Which I can totally see as being more him than this song, yes, just from the song title.

So finally some information from Kris’s upcoming album, yay!

ETA: And iTunes sale info, cool. I am sure this is going to be a very downloaded song. Will be interested to hear the numbers.

Why a whole week until the ITune release? Won’t that encourage people to download illegally in the meantime? I remember when Uprising first debuted on BBC radio 1, it was available as a torrent literally an hour later.

The song is cute, should do ok I think, way better as a first single than all the sappy ones sung previously.. so that is a step in the right direction!! I will be ok with listening to it on the Radio..

@jambajim Jive told me today Live Like We’re Dying will hit iTunes NEXT Tues. Also, Extra was at Z-100 w/ Kris today. Set your TiVos 4 tonite!
10 minutes ago from web

I don’t know who Kris’s manager or publicist is – of if he even has anyone yet. But I think he should just fire them and let Jim take over. I’m only being partly facetious.

Glad to finally have some info on his producer(s). I figured Kris did not get his wish to have a sole producer after a name never leaked. I don’t think it really matters one way or another. But these two guys resumes do not thrill me very much.

So far, Kris’s first single is from another Sony/BMG act and two of his producers have a deal with Sony/ BMG. And it just so happens these two producers worked with the act that originally recorded his first single.

I’d love to stick my head in the sand. But it seems that TopIdol’s blog post from the other day about Kris is right on the money unfortunately.

Why a whole week until the ITune release? Won’t that encourage people to download illegally in the meantime? I remember when Uprising first debuted on BBC radio 1, it was available as a torrent literally an hour later.

Same for DC last year.

If they love the song so much (Kris’s team/19) why didn’t they just have The Script release it—they are with RCA, right?, and are going to be opening for Cook—and have Kris release something else? They had to have loved LLYD in it’s original form because they didn’t have Kris change up anything from the instrumentation to the phrasing; the vocal itself sounds so much like the lead singer of The Script. Maybe they were hoping for some kind of cross-promotion, lol; and, if so, it worked because I have now checked out this “new” band and I actually like a lot of their stuff, including at least one track that I recognize as it is getting decent radio play on my HAC station.

This will probably be a nice hit song for Kris, but the whole situation is not what I would have expected.

Well I hope what is happening with Kris prepares people for what might happen with Adam. I’m not setting my sights too high for him either.

With this CD it’s all about being heard….and I think this song will be heard LOTS.

Correction needed on MJ’s OP: Andrew Frampton and Steve Kipner, helped to write and produce the Natasha Bedingfield ALBUM, ‘Unwritten’ , not the SINGLE, “Unwritten”. The song was written by Bedingfield, Brisebois and Rodriguez and produced by Brisebois.

So you can say the song was ‘unwritten” by those 2 men. LOL.

This is my first time getting to hear his single. I love it. It seems to be very radio friendly to me. I am very happy to hear that I will be able to purchase it next week!

HHMMM! Kinda bummed on this one. Even though the song is some what catchy, it certainly is not memorable or something you can sing along to, or even hum the hook line… and it took five months to come up with this? I woud have thought that Kris and 19 would have come up with a much stronger tune to whet the interest for the album! Like, “oh boy, that was sooo hot, I can’t wait to hear the rest!”…. does not make it for me. The sad part is, I REALLY like Kris! So I hope that the album has a lot of really stronger tunes on it… unfortunately I fear this one will just fade away quickly! SO sorry Kris! <3

The song was written by Bedingfield, Brisebois and Rodriguez and produced by Brisebois.

Hm. And I actually knew that Archie’s niece helped write that song (you have to be old to get that reference. I’m not talking about David A. lol)

Reminder:

We’re not getting into bullsh*t fan wars over crap that’s offtopic. Posts deleted.

i wonder too why a whole week before we can download it from Itunes..

i wonder too why a whole week before we can download it from Itunes..

Theres no big reason for it, it happens all the time. The same thing happened with Kelly first single (off her latest album), Carrie new single is being released on iTunes on Tuesday after being out for a week or 2.

im sure there is a reason for the iTunes “delay”….maybe the competition that week isnt as stiff as this upcoming Tuesday? or maybe that was in the label’s contract w. iTunes. whateverz, this is always the case w. albums or singles. its coming out soon and thats what matters. And they now have a week to generate some buzz.

re: one producer versus many. i think in the end, it could benefit kris to have multiple inputs since he is aming for an album w. diff sounds.

so far, so good.

I was disappointed the other day when I heard the “leaked” clip that this isn’t the type of song that made me fall in love with Kris’ voice and musical ability. I do think it’s catchy, though, and that non-AI fans will possibly take notice of Kris after hearing this. For AI watchers who are Kris fans, I’m confident that the CD will NOT be a letdown, and that we will hear more of that beautiful, rich voice that we love so. This song is fun, and it makes me feel good, and for now, that’s enough for me!

to me it sounds a whole lot like Maroon Five…which is good, since they are pretty popular.

Seems like a week between the radio and/or streaming debut of a song (or album) and when it’s available on iTunes is pretty standard.

I’ve just finally had a chance to really listen to the song. Not bad. I love The Script, and have been listening to their album since last spring. Seems like all Idol 1st singles copy some popular sound, so I’m more than okay with Kris sounding like The Script. I was really afraid that he would end up sounding like Nick Lachey, New Kids on the Block, or some other boy band dreck. Hopefully the rest of the album will have a more unique, recognizably “Kris” sound, but this isn’t a bad start. I still can’t stand Light On, and think it’s the worst song on an otherwise good album. I’ll feel much better about rooting for the success of LLYD.

Okay, I am officially old- i got the Archies niece reference

FYI for those that didn’t know, she ( Brisebois)was in the group New Radicals, singers of that great One Hit Wonder “Get What You Give”

Best wishes. Song is good.

Hm. And I actually knew that Archie’s niece helped write that song (you have to be old to get that reference. I’m not talking about David A. lol)

Oh crap. I did get that reference. Thanks, MJ. Is it really Danielle Brisebois?

I know nothing about the recording industry, but my guess would be that they want to give the single some time on the airwaves and build a wider audience before releasing it outright.

As much as the hardcore fans have been following the news religiously this past summer, I’d bet a good chunk of the AI viewing base has not. It might not hurt to take a few days of airplay to remind them of what they’ve been missing.

(Edited to add: Or it’s just customary. )

I think the song grows on me the more I listen to it. I’ve just listened to it for the 3rd time, and I think I’ve got the melody, and the phrasing, imprinted on me already. That being said, I think it will appeal to college peeps and those in their 20s & early 30s. As for tweens, well, I guess they’ll also like it because the wordiness will be a challenge for them, and they’ll start listening to it to get the lyrics right, until they can’t stop singing and playing the song. Hehe. Again, I wish Kris the best of luck!

okaaaay I actually thought or was David a u were talking about LOL no more hw!!! yay my guess 4 the iTunes date was right!!!

Tbh I don’t think it will grow on Tweens….it’s hard 4 AI ppl to do that….archie was AMAAAZING with crush,Tweens like Kelly clarkaon.some like carrie.Of course I’m just STRANGE;)

Why is there so much surprise over it hitting iTunes next week? I don’t know many songs that hit iTunes the second they hit radio. Cowboy Casanova has been out longer and its still not on iTunes. Light On and Crush went on sale the following week too.

If they love the song so much (Kris’s team/19) why didn’t they just have The Script release it’”they are with RCA, right?, and are going to be opening for Cook’”and have Kris release something else?

That would be far too simple..

I have no problem with the song itself. As I’ve said I do like it and think it’s catchy but they had to release it as his FIRST single? They couldn’t have waited until his 2nd like Kelly did with IDNHU?

Kris was on Access Hollywood today too.

My 13 year old daughter lovesssssssss PINK.. I am soooo glad.. if she like Carrie I might have to shoot myself..lol

If they love the song so much (Kris’s team/19) why didn’t they just have The Script release it’”they are with RCA, right?, and are going to be opening for Cook’”and have Kris release something else?

Probably has something to do with the fact that this song is not on their album. Singles are released to promote albums.

Yay! This is the first time I’ve been able to listen to it! I think Kris and his team were right to fall in love with it! From what I can tell, I think it should be a hit, but I don’t know too much about top 40. His vocals sound amazing and I really think it sounds different than the original. The lead singer on the original had a nasal sound in at least some of the lyrics and Kris’s lyrics are much more crisp.

I hope someone has a vid from Extra. By the time I read that they were there today, it was over.

I’m a little concerned about the use of more than one producer, but will wait to see what the final product sounds like. In the mean time great single!!! Woot! It will be on my ipod next Tuesday.

I love it! I don’t care that his version and the Script’s version are similar. I would never have bought theirs but will definitely buy Kris’ because I love his voice and it’s a great song. They didn’t like it enough to include it on their album and Kris will make it a hit. Publicity for them and a hit single for Kris. Everyone wins.

Kris also sang a great acoustic MITM on that same show:

http://randomizeme.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/kris-allen-acoustic-man-in-the-mirror-95-5-plj-new-york-radio/

Access Hollywood link

http://www.accesshollywood.com/kris-allen-living-his-dream-of-releasing-first-single_video_1159377

ETA: couldn’t find a youtube link

I don’t know why I can’t worry about Kris. With my idol artists I always worry a lot, fashion style, single airplay, album producers, media image, etc., but not for Kris.

I mean yeah during the competition I worry every week that he will go, but not anymore since he win. Just weird.

I like it. It’s definately going to be a hit. Congrats to Kris and his fans.

Where did they film that Access Hollywood spot — somewhere in the middle of Central Park?

Is he on both Access Hollywood and Extra tonight, then?

Oh, look — they asked him about Adam…I’m shocked! And they asked him about Ellen as the new judge. Again, I’m shocked! Is it so hard to come up with a handful of questions that just focus on Kris and his music?

Oh well, any publicity is good publicity. And he did get to talk a little bit about his single. Oh, and hey — new t-shirt! I think…

It’s better to release it next week (or maybe it would be even better in two weeks) because the song can gain some airplay, and more airplay means more ears and more ears translate into more sales. Better sales can also mean better position on Hot100.
Those who want it illegaly will get it illegaly, no matter when it’s released. And those who want to buy it will buy it.

I think it was starting to get obvious at this point that Kris wasn’t going to have only one producer. But good to have a confirmation.

If they really love the song as early as May, why did it take this long to release it?

To time it so that it peaks right before his album is released.

Also to add that I’ve seen mixed responses from various internet outlets. Many comments have problems with the whole cover thing. I say if you know it’s a cover, you are already likely to be an invested AI fans. Invested AI fans buy albums and singles, more of a stance to support their idol contestants than out of music taste. I can’t imagine anyone hearing this song from radio first has a problem that it’s a cover.

to me it sounds a whole lot like Maroon Five’ ¦which is good, since they are pretty popular.

This is killing me, which songs of Maroon 5?

And as to why they didn’t release LLWD as a single before now if they were in love with it…(a) we don’t know how long ago Kris actually recorded it. Just because it was submitted in May doesn’t mean they recorded it back then; (b) they don’t usually release Idol winners singles before the end of tour, do they (aside from the coronation songs, that is); and (c) there may have been other songs besides this one that they were considering releasing as the first single, and just decided that LLWD was the best way to go.

Oops, and (d) singles usually don’t get released way in advance of the album dropping. This is nearly 2 months in advance of the album’s release date — which is probably about as far in advance as is comfortable.

Wow I don’t think I ever saw more than 38 people online at Kris Allen Official and right now there are 455 people on-line. See what a little publicity on the biggest radio station will do?

Lulwut

Maybe you can’t worry about Kris because he never seems to be worried. That chill attitude of his has worked for him just fine, so far.

Access Hollywood link

http://www.accesshollywood.com/kris-allen-living-his-dream-of-releasing-first-single_video_1159377

Thanks Squirrely! Do you know if Kris was on the show itself or just the website? I thought this was a really good Kris interview. He is definitely improving in that regard.

It’s nice to know that the general public won’t know it’s a cover. I’m just trying to figure out why every website that has the story (or hoopla) is telling everyone its a cover and putting the links of both versions on their sites.

I still don’t get why Kris said “I Need to Know” is his favorite song on the album. Maybe it is, and that’s fine, but why don’t you promote *this* song when it is just being released and you’re doing promo for *this* song? Where’s Jive?! Kris seems to be an honest and earnest guy, but self-promotion is not his strongest suit, IMO. And “strummy and sing-songy”? What, is this for tweens? I wouldn’t call Falling Slowly strummy and sing-along, and I think that and Heartless (which I believe are his favorite songs from Idol, tho I could be wrong) are earnest and heartfelt. I like earnest and heartfelt, especially from Kris.

As much as I want to love Live Like We’re Dying, I can’t. It’s just too BNL for me (I can’t stand BNL, tho Steven Page is releasing a solo album, I believe, and I liked what I heard). It’s better than NoBo, yes. but it reminds me of NoBo. I hope INTK is less poppy and more groovy than this. (BTW, I lurrrve Maroon Five. This does not sound like Maroon Five to me. And it sure doesn’t sound like Gavin DeGraw.) I’m bummed out; I wanted to love it and I hope it does really, really well, but if it weren’t part of the iTunes pass, I wouldn’t download it.

Squirrely
September 21, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Access Hollywood link

http://www.accesshollywood.com/kris-allen-living-his-dream-of-releasing-first-single_video_1159377

I don’t care for Kris’s interviews– I think he needs to step it up a little. However, I do like Kris and I think this interview pretty much sucks.

Why, on his big day, bring up Adam?
And why ask AGAIN about Ellen?

The first is just plain rude, the second is lazy and definitely old news.

It’s nice to know that the general public won’t know it’s a cover. I’m just trying to figure out why every website that has the story (or hoopla) is telling everyone its a cover and putting the links of both versions on their sites.

Because it’s interesting info and it sparks conversation, which means more people pay attention to the article. Without that piece of info, all they’d have is “Kris Allen, winner of American Idol, has a new single out and it’s nice.” Where’s the drama in that?

Hm. And I actually knew that Archie’s niece helped write that song (you have to be old to get that reference. I’m not talking about David A. lol)

Gee thanks, MJ. I got the reference..lol.

This is killing me, which songs of Maroon 5?

Interesting comparison. Overall, I don’t think so but there’s a bit of similarity with the beginning of Maroon 5‘s Sunday Morning.

Maroon 5 – Sunday Morning

I say if you know it’s a cover, you are already likely to be an invested AI fans.

I don’t have anything against it being a cover. I don’t even really consider it a cover, I know technically it is, but I always think of a cover as the redoing of a well-known song.

However, more people than invested AI fans will know it’s a cover because of the references on EOnline, EW, USAToday and MTV. I don’t see why it’s a big deal though. I’d never heard the Script’s version until I heard it on this site. But, tbh, I really don’t hear that much difference between Kris’s version and the Script version. I played them for my sister, and she didn’t recognize it as Kris’s voice at first. She thought it wasn’t much different from the Script.

I like it though, that chorus is an earworm and I think it will really do well. It’s different from the usual AI single and I think that’s great!

I think it is a mediocre song; however, I checked with my 13 yoa daughter for reference and she loved it and assured me it would be a big hit! That’s great!

The Script was originally a boy band called My Town:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG3SUHO2_Tc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1oju-53-1Q

I skimmed the thread and didn’t see this so …

from the New York Post. They compare Kris to The Script and prefer Kris!

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/popwrap/kris_allen_first_single_is_un_scripted_GyzsMCQpRyYvOGFyuL1FRP

Oh know foiled again!! *screams, running and covering head* I’m not aloud to flove this song because it was originally recorded by a group that was once upon a time a ‘boy band’!!!! Help me! Help me! I might as well though all of my taste in music out the window now!!!! LOL.

Aww, congrats Kris! He sounds very happy and relieved to have this day here and also almost over with. *g*

I like this version of the song — RemusL, “Sunday Morning” was exactly the song I thought of too, when I heard The Script version.

I’m not wild about what Kris does with the bridge on this version — like, at all, though hopefully I’ll get used to it — but I like what he does after the bridge a lot. That’s the Allen twist I was hoping for.

I’ll buy it!

ETA: zomg, girlygirl that video is hysterical.

Kris just tweeted that the single will be on ITunes on Friday:

Hey everyone. I’m glad you guys like the single. It should be on iTunes on fri. Thanks everyone.

Is the boy misinformed?

If they love the song so much (Kris’s team/19) why didn’t they just have The Script release it’”they are with RCA, right?, and are going to be opening for Cook’”and have Kris release something else?

It was the B-Side to the Script’s demo EP. The Script producers decided to go with the A-Side single from the EP, We Cry, on the album. It’s the same song — wordy, half-spoken/half-sung, Macarena melody. We Cry is the stronger of the two.

I’m sure the producers had the a verison of Live Like You are Dying in the can for the album released last fall. When it didn’t make the cut, they just stripped out the Script’s vocal tracks and e-mailed the song over here for the Idol to add his vocal track. Instant single.

ETA: There’s actually another song on the Script’s CD that is very similar, too – Before the Worst. Same kind of talking verses followed by an “anthemic” chorus.

Sunn
September 21, 2009 at 9:28 pm

Kris just tweeted that the single will be on ITunes on Friday:

Hey everyone. I’m glad you guys like the single. It should be on iTunes on fri. Thanks everyone.

Is the boy misinformed?

He must be. Poor guy. He must be so tired he probably doesn’t know which way is up anymore.

idk.goodnight.FYI my cousin(13) knew live like we’re dying and she’s not a script fan..,.

Either Kris is confused or Jive told Jim C the wrong information (or they changed the iTunes release date after they talked to Jim C)

Or maybe Friday is when it will be released to the people who bought Kris’ Itunes Pass?

Hey everyone. I’m glad you guys like the single. It should be on iTunes on fri. Thanks everyone.

Is the boy misinformed?

What? I’ve been away for a few hours. Was it universally panned in less than a day? Not possible. Please can somebody catch me up.

The Script was originally a boy band called My Town:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG3SUHO2_Tc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1oju-53-1Q

Oh My – they reinvented themselves – good for them.

ETA: The Script version LLWD sounds more like Maroon 5 to me, the lead singer sounds like Adam Levine.

What? I’ve been away for a few hours. Was it universally panned in less than a day? Not possible. Please can somebody catch me up.

Why assume universally panned from an earlier ITunes release?

On second listen…..I think the single is a winner! Just catchy as all get-out, with cool guitar hooks and that passionate vocal. I also like that it says something — a little clicheed, sure, but very positive sentiment expressed.

curious about “I Need to Know” — which happens to share a title with my very favorite Marc Antony song – fun clip of him singing it live a few months ago at Madison Square Garden. (remember when Blake sang it?) I know it’s off topic but Marc Antony is one of the most exciting live performers I’ve ever seen — and his band is MUY CALIENTE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sZoVV7rvDc

I couldn’t care less that it’s a cover….

Still feel like SHIT.goodnight

NewFan–I think the gals think the “boy is misinformed” as to the iTunes release date. Based on my reading, the reviews are still mixed–trending towards possible HIT! So I think the iTunes release date’s the point of contention/confusion…

NewFan

Jive supposedly said LLWD will be available on iTunes next Tuesday. Kris tweeted that it will be available this coming Friday. That’s why we are wondering whether Kris has been misinformed. Nothing to do with reviews…

The reviews about the single have been mostly positive from the actual media types, but mixed among the fans. However, even among the fans it seems like there are more people leaning tord LLWD having a good chance of being a hit.

Leza ………….

THANK YOU!
GEEZ THAT WAS WORRYING…………

Hi Sunn. ”
The comment went from …
Kris saying … “I’m glad you guys like the single” …
to … “Is the boy misinformed?”

For myself, I happen to love the single (yay) and I wasn’t assuming anything. How am I supposed to know that the release date is wrong?

And why does Luv feel like shit?

Luv. Are you still out there? Why do you feel like shit?

Ahhh. Shocks to the system! Now I need a soothing quart of ice cream!

And Kris tweeting about people liking his single is in response to the people who @ replied him — I would think that pretty much everyone who tweeted Kris about their response to the single told him they liked/loved it

Thanks girlygirl

You can’t go out into RL for even a few hours without things getting away from you.

BTW I’d share my ice cream with you if I could

Was anyone ever able to find a download of Man in the mirror from today? I found the one that was the interview, MITM, and LLYWD – but I’m hoping for just MITM. I found one version of it, but the first several seconds are missing.

I sat through Extra and Access Hollywood — no sign of Kris, just lots of Emmys stuff. So I guess his interviews were for the web only?

Finally got a chance to listen to the single. I like it! To my ears it sounds more like something that would have been a Top 40 hit about 10 years ago – don’t know if that translates into a hit today. (I do hear the Barenaked Ladies similarities.) But I also hear the Mrazy-ness and the production style does remind of Natasha Bedingfield’s singles a bit, which to me is not a bad thing and about as palatable as pure pop can get. So I’m hopeful it will do well on the charts.

looking forward to a live version now

I’m sure the producers had the a verison of Live Like You are Dying in the can for the album released last fall. When it didn’t make the cut, they just stripped out the Script’s vocal tracks and e-mailed the song over here for the Idol to add his vocal track. Instant single.

It wasn’t just in the can, it was released before their album was released. The Script released “Live Like We’re Dying” on their digital CD sing “We Cry” April 28, 2008. They did not put LLWD on their album, “The Script”, which was released on UK, IRE: August 8, 2008; Europe Sept 2008; US: March 17, 2009.

“The Script” album was #1 UK & IRE; peaked at #91 on the Billboard 200 on 4 April 2009 but hit #14 on the US iTunes chart.

RCA is working on re-reinventing The Script to try can crack the US market — since they failed so far. The current plan is to record their next album in the US (due out in 2010-2011).

The Script was originally a boy band called My Town:

WHAT???????? LOL> Funny, they don’t mention this on their website.

I can promise you that when I saw them last month they were all firmly secured to an instrument

Here’s their side of the story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-lu_yb6Ijw&feature=related&pvpos=5

This is how it is laid out on their website
http://www.thescriptmusic.com/gb/biography/

The Script was originally a boy band called My Town:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG3SUHO2_Tc

Thank goodness they grew up and figured out how to make real music, LOL!

RCA is working on re-reinventing The Script to try can crack the US market ‘” since they failed so far. The current plan is to record their next album in the US (due out in 2010-2011).

They seem to really be tying Kris in with them, dontcha think? This song, working with the same producers of the Script album and isn’t Kris going to be in a concert with the Script also performing after him??

Seems weird to be tied so closely with them.

RCA is working on re-reinventing The Script to try can crack the US market ‘” since they failed so far. The current plan is to record their next album in the US (due out in 2010-2011).

Touring with U2 and Sir Paul doesn’t exactly make you a star on top 40. I love their album. I hope they find success over here, but we’re not always the best judges…

Also am enjoying Kris’ first single. It’s gonna be a hit.

Was anyone ever able to find a download of Man in the mirror from today? I found the one that was the interview, MITM, and LLYWD ‘“ but I’m hoping for just MITM. I found one version of it, but the first several seconds are missing.

Yup, right here – http://randomizeme.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/kris-allen-acoustic-man-in-the-mirror-95-5-plj-new-york-radio/

Full with intro guitar

Q3:

What I’m wondering is whether they did a remix of “We Cry” and Live “Like We’re Dying” for the album release? If so, they had a fresh mix on the shelf, unused, that they could just add Idol vocals. That’s the great thing about buying factory-made producer-recorded songs. As long as the backing tracks are already in the can, you just have to change the vocals. It does sound like they probably added the acoustic guitar to make it more “strummy”.

leeann you are my hero! Thank you

girlygirl
September 21, 2009 at 11:04 pm

I sat through Extra and Access Hollywood ‘” no sign of Kris, just lots of Emmys stuff. So I guess his interviews were for the web only?

I saw both shows too and there was nothing. Extra goes to air early here, so it may be on tomorrow. Don’t know about AH since it is on their site.

WHAT???????? LOL> Funny, they don’t mention this on their website.

I think it’s called, re-branding. Sounds to me like The Script is positioned as U2-lite.

Stuff like Breakeven and Rusty Halo sounds like a U2 vibe to me, but with pretty boyband vocals and harmonies. At the end of the day, I’m not sure it adds up to much more than an easy-listening album, although it’s certainly better than what passes for pop on this side of the pond.

RCA is working on re-reinventing The Script to try can crack the US market ‘” since they failed so far. The current plan is to record their next album in the US (due out in 2010-2011).

Touring with U2 and Sir Paul doesn’t exactly make you a star on top 40. I love their album. I hope they find success over here, but we’re not always the best judges’ ¦

But I would not say that touring with Sir Paul and U2 would be classified as a failure either. No, they weren’t overnight sensations here, but most groups aren’t. They seem to be building a loyal fanbase in much the same way David Cook is; working hard and touring.

The release of the Kris’ single has revealed to me a number of friends and colleagues who already knew ( and liked ) The Script. As I said before I logged onto a music blog today to find the folks there in a three page and growing discussion of The Script’s music. And that was before I told them Kris’ new song was a Script song.

They seem to really be tying Kris in with them, dontcha think? This song, working with the same producers of the Script album and isn’t Kris going to be in a concert with the Script also performing after him??

Seems weird to be tied so closely with them.

I hadn’t heard of Kris being in concert with the Script. Is this new? They are supposed to open for David Cook in November I think.

But I would not say that touring with Sir Paul and U2 would be classified as a failure either. No, they weren’t overnight sensations here, but most groups aren’t. They seem to be building a loyal fanbase in much the same way David Cookis; working hard and touring.

Yeah, I meant that it’s not on our top 40. Not that it isn’t a huge compliment. I know a ton of musicians that would rather tour with Sir Paul and U2 than get played on KSS FM.

ksgirlfordc, Kris is playing at an event in Cincinnati in October that the Script is headlining.

Bosom Ball

It wasn’t just in the can, it was released before their album was released. The Script released ‘Live Like We’re Dying’  on their digital CD sing ‘We Cry’  April 28, 2008. They did not put LLWD on their album, ‘The Script’ , which was released on UK, IRE: August 8, 2008; Europe Sept 2008; US: March 17, 2009.

Someone in an earlier thread — who seemed to know what they were talking about — said the “digital CD” or EP or whatever it’s called was released AFTER the album. But as always, Q3, I trust you when it comes to these matters.

So my contention in that thread that LLWD was rejected for the band’s album after it had been given a test run was accurate after all.

Not that it isn’t a huge compliment. I know a ton of musicians that would rather tour with Sir Paul and U2 than get played on KSS FM.

Any artist with half a brain would take opening for McCartney or U2 any day. Or they should. Absolute best case scenario for the top40 route is two albums before reinvention into an adult act. A good band getting the stamp of approval from legends can build that into a sustainable following. In many ways, top 40 is fool’s gold.

playing at an event in Cincinnati in October that the Script is headlining.

These are payola “concerts”. It is illegal for the label to write a check in exchange for spins, so this is how the money is laundered. The radio station puts on a charity “concert”. The record companies pick up the expenses, supply the acts for free, and gives the tickets to the radio station. The radio station turns the tickets into ad dollars by using them for promo giveaways for advertisers. Money laundered. Spins purchased.

The cost comes completely out of the artists pocket. DAUGHTRY’s entire summer “tour” was freebie payola concerts in exchange for spins of the new album.

Where is Kris’ PR team? I don’t understand what they are doing at all. If Kris’ single is going to go on sale in a week, why isn’t the info about iTune release date on his official Website? Why isn’t someone prepping interviewers with questions? And why isn’t someone coaching Kris on how to promote his new single? How could they let the Extra interview be so wasted? Kris gave this reporter nothing newsworthy at all — just seems like there is no focus on promoting Kris.

Is Jive always this useless on promotion? Or is it “special” for Kris?

hwc: What I’m wondering is whether they did a remix of ‘We Cry’  and Live ‘Like We’re Dying’  for the album release? If so, they had a fresh mix on the shelf, unused, that they could just add Idol vocals. That’s the great thing about buying factory-made producer-recorded songs. As long as the backing tracks are already in the can, you just have to change the vocals. It does sound like they probably added the acoustic guitar to make it more ‘strummy’ .

Oh, I missed your point completely. Since The Script “LLWD” and the Kris cover are so similar, I don’t think a remix was needed to pitch the song. JMHO.

ksgirlfordc, Kris is playing at an event in Cincinnati in October that the Script is headlining.

The concert billing is odd.

1. Kris is the second act on a 4 act bill, with lower billing than Parachute? Why doesn’t he have second billing? Sorry, but Kris has sold more iTunes units than Parachute.

2. He’s a pre-opening act for The Script? Why are they tieing Kris to The Script? Do they want to emphasize that his single is a The Script cover?

I’m sorry to be so negative, but this whole thing isn’t playing out like an “Idol winner” promotion/treatment to me. I really think Kris deserves better.

High-quality rip of LLWD single leaked out

http://community.livejournal.com/ontd_ai/2384783.html

mj please delete it if it’s not allowed here.

Aw, Kris’ dad tweeted about the single debuting today:

nballen
@# WOW ‘“ my sons first single on the radio. I can’t really express how proud I am. Rock on son, rock ON!about 4 hours ago from txt

And so did his brother’ ¦

# @KrisAllen4Real . I’m just wicked stoked right now! My bro got his dream today! How’d it feel man? ‘Live Like We’re Dying’..every1 loves it!about 13 hours ago from web

# Just off the phone with Kris! He’s pumpd bout the single! ‘ ¦ Looks like Napa Valley/Vineyards is next vacation!about 9 hours ago from Sidekick

I love the entire Allen family. They are so adorable and supportive and sweet and’ ¦gah’ ¦.!

I hope Kris fans will still buy the single even if they are downloading these MP3′s. Need to support Kris by getting him on the charts — and can’t do that by just downloading the stuff people are ripping off the radio broadcasts…

I think it’s called, re-branding. Sounds to me like The Script is positioned as U2-lite.

LOL again hwc, I’ve called them U2 Lite before. The band even so much as says that in one of the interivews I’ve seen recently.

And its only two of the three members that were part of the boy band; ;

Yeah, I meant that it’s not on our top 40. Not that it isn’t a huge compliment. I know a ton of musicians that would rather tour with Sir Paul and U2 than get played on KSS FM.

I agree with you, it is the person that called them a failure so far in the States that I disagreed with.

Someone in an earlier thread ‘” who seemed to know what they were talking about ‘” said the ‘digital CD’  or EP or whatever it’s called was released AFTER the album. But as always, Q3, I trust you when it comes to these matters.

That person was me, and I got the onfo off a website. I think I linked to it at the time. But as we all know, a website can be faulty sometimes. I apologized the other night for stating that The Script CD would be released on Nov. 17, 2009. I said I must have been mistaken when someone said it was released in March (and it was) but here I find the info I first stated on the American pages of The Script website

Before The Worst

Part of The Script’s debut album, to be released Nov 17th, 2009.
http://www.thescriptmusic.com/us/music/songs/

Breakeven
Part of The Script’s debut album, to be released Nov 17th, 2009.
http://www.thescriptmusic.com/us/music/songs/breakeven/

and so on.

I too bow to Q3′s knowledge. I am sure she has a link to a more reliable source.

Q3
September 22, 2009 at 1:06 am

Where is Kris’ PR team? I don’t understand what they are doing at all. If Kris’ single is going to go on sale in a week, why isn’t the info about iTune release date on his official Website? Why isn’t someone prepping interviewers with questions? And why isn’t someone coaching Kris on how to promote his new single? How could they let the Extra interview be so wasted? Kris gave this reporter nothing newsworthy at all ‘” just seems like there is no focus on promoting Kris.

Is Jive always this useless on promotion? Or is it ‘special’  for Kris?

ksgirlfordc: Kris is playing at an event in Cincinnati in October that the Script is headlining.

The concert billing is odd.

1. Kris is the second act on a 4 act bill, with lower billing than Parachute? Why doesn’t he have second billing? Sorry, but Kris has sold more iTunes units than Parachute.

2. He’s a pre-opening act for The Script? Why are they tieing Kris to The Script? Do they want to emphasize that his single is a The Script cover?

I’m sorry to be so negative, but this whole thing isn’t playing out like an ‘Idol winner’  promotion/treatment to me. I really think Kris deserves better.

Did you see something on Extra that I didn’t, Q3? I saw the Access Hollywood video on the web, but nothing on Extra today (or on the web). It does seem as thought Kris was not prepped well for pressing his single release and didn’t seem to have publicity support there handling the interview.

The line-up for the Bosom Ball does strike me as unusual that Kris is a warm-up for a regional band – and the Ball is in Kentucky, not Ohio.

These are payola ‘concerts’ . It is illegal for the label to write a check in exchange for spins, so this is how the money is laundered

hwc: Is that what the “pool party” mini-concert was? This all makes sense now.

As for interviews, I really don’t think the kid gets it. He doesn’t seem to grasp that the purpose is not for him to just sit there and answer questions, but rather to use those media opportunities to market himself…or at least say something interesting. Or give ‘em a little banter. Or claim to be more popular than the baby Jesus… or something. He promoted the hell out of Chick Fil’et, though.

What’s the Twitter name of Kris’ brother? I want to follow him too LOL!

hwc: Is that what the ‘pool party’  mini-concert was? This all makes sense now.

Yep. But, on a small scale. The concerts are usually things like he Q93 Summer Fling or the Z102 Christmas Jam or whatever. Three or four bands. This Cincinatti thing is a perfect example. I think they do them at the halfshell on the Charles River in Boston in the summer — I remember my daughter going to one in junior high school.

These things were really turnkey operations when Clear Channel owned the radio stations and the Live Nation venues (like House of Blues), and the concert promotors.

It’s just the cost of top-40 airplay. That’s the game. It’s all pay for play. And the cost comes off the top of the artist’s cut of the CD royalties. A smart artist has to take a cold, sober look at whether he has a realistic shot of increasing sales enough to recoup all that. People complain about the promotion of Taylor Hicks, but I suspect Taylor correctly assessed that he had no shot at top 40 and refused to do the payola tours and pay for videos and pus singles to top 40 radio. He might well have calculated that he would just be burning money. He never did the freebie concerts. He had a real tour, that played to pretty full houses. He poured the money back into the band, so I doubt he made a killing, but that first tour was profitable.

Aw @ Kris’ dad. But he’s right, we’re all proud of him. This is a awesome single! I’ve been listening to it all day. I should calm it down a little though, so it will still be kinda fresh when the album drops on Nov 17. Cannot wait!! GO KRIS

girlygirl
September 22, 2009 at 1:32 am
I hope Kris fans will still buy the single even if they are downloading these MP3′s. Need to support Kris by getting him on the charts ‘” and can’t do that by just downloading the stuff people are ripping off the radio broadcasts’ ¦

Agreed and always the challenge in our digital age.

ETA: and by that I mean all of those that have dowloaded it and/or are listening to it like a single. I myself used the link like a radi one, did I like it? yes or no. Would I buy it? No to both, but I maintain that Kris is still going to be successful with this song without my .99.

And btw I cannot care any LESS about how this song is a so-called “cover”. It was never known unless people looked into it so much. SO WHAT?! It’s Kris Allen’s first single now, and it’s awesome, that’s all I cared about. (Well if you don’t like the song in the first place then that’s a different story-.-)
Gotta live~like we’re dying

As for interviews, I really don’t think the kid gets it. He doesn’t seem to grasp that the purpose is not for him to just sit there and answer questions, but rather to use those media opportunities to market himself’ ¦or at least say something interesting. Or give ‘em a little banter. Or claim to be more popular than the baby Jesus’ ¦ or something. He promoted the hell out of Chick Fil’et, though.

He’s a 24 year old man, not a kid. He won American Idol, so I’d say he gets it. I’m sorry, but it’s you who doesn’t get it. He’s a charming, funny, genuine guy who has the ability to make almost everyone like him, and that is what marketing yourself is all about. Kris’s charms obviously escape you, hwc, but I’m afraid your’e in the minority. You make a big mistake selling him short.

Here’s an example of a payola concert: the Z100 Jingle Ball last Christmas in New York City. This is a big one, held in Madison Square Garden. Being a major market, they get the top-of the line top-40 acts ponying up:

http://jingleball08.z100.com/pages/main/

Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Ne Yo, Kanye West, Rhianna, Chris Brown, Nick Lachey, and so forth

The same deal plays out in smaller markets with correspondingly lesser acts.

Kris’s charms obviously escape you, hwc, but I’m afraid your’e in the minority. You make a big mistake selling him short.

I’m hardly selllin’ the kid short. I’ve already said that he’s way better than Bob Dylan.

He sucks at interviews. 19E is going to run into shows that just won’t book him for interviews because it’s like dead air. I mean, who answers the question about food you miss back in Arkansas by saying “Chick Fil’et”?

I’m a bit confused. Is there some food that would be a better answer to “What food do you miss from Arkansas?”

He sucks at interviews.

I wouldn’t say he sucks at interviews because he is pretty genuine and forthright. He doesn’t know how to capitalize on them by directing the interview instead of letting the interviewer completely drive it. People blast me for saying he needs interview coaching – this is one part of interviewing technique he isn’t skilled in and there are other areas he still needs to learn.

Example: I just watched his Access Hollywood interview again. He is asked about the single dropping today. That was his opportunity to at least get the title of the song and availability date in there – he did not – not once. The opportunities were there. Humble is sweet and good, but he still has a single to sell.

I am not Kris bashing (I really do like him), but there is some merit to the comments that say he does not capitalize on his interview opportunities.

leeaundra
September 22, 2009 at 3:24 am

He sucks at interviews.

I wouldn’t say he sucks at interviews because he is pretty genuine and forthright. He doesn’t know how to capitalize on them by directing the interview instead of letting the interviewer completely drive it. People blast me for saying he needs interview coaching ‘“ this is one part of interviewing technique he isn’t skilled in and there are other areas he still needs to learn.

Example: I just watched his Access Hollywood interview again. He is asked about the single dropping today. That was his opportunity to at least get the title of the song and availability date in there ‘“ he did not ‘“ not once. The opportunities were there. Humble is sweet and good, but he still has a single to sell.

I am not Kris bashing (I really do like him), but there is some merit to the comments that say he does not capitalize on his interview opportunities.

I agree with you and hwc, Kris has to promote himself, hands down. Being humble and sweet with get you dead air.

Of the top 4 Kris is the weakest link as far as interviews go.

The one thing I am not worried about Gokey is that he will capitalize on his interviews – he will undoubtedly stick his foot in his mouth but at least he will promote the hell out of his new song, the foundation, himself, etc. Allison she may be a quick study. We know she can talk if she feels comfortable with the interviewer but she is still 17. I have seen her in more and more interviews starting to promote herself more.

I like Kris, he is a sweet guy. But… first impressions are so important in this business. He is wasting opportunities to give vital information and to promote his music most of the time when he is interviewed alone. Kris has traveled, he’s done missionary work, he has to have better communication skills in there some where. Damn man, talk why don’t you?

He sucks at interviews. 19E is going to run into shows that just won’t book him for interviews because it’s like dead air. I mean, who answers the question about food you miss back in Arkansas by saying ‘Chick Fil’et’ ?

The Chick A Fil corporation, that’s who! And I really think you’re selling Kris short in his interviews. He’s not David Cook, but he’s a smart guy with a nice chill vibe and he generally has a really dry, funny sense of humor that most of the time I really enjoy. Plus he’s sweet, nice and charming, he’s going to do fine on the interview circuit. Granted he won’t always be my favourite to listen to and yes, sometimes he might slightly bore me. On the other hand, he also won’t put his foot in his mouth and make me facepalm like Adam, Allison and Gokey can all do much more than he does.

I think Kris does fine with his interviews. He comes across as personable and real. I hope he doesn’t change, especially because of comments from non-fans.

first impressions are so important in this business

ITA

to me Kris is chill, sweet and genuine.

I think that’s why some people insist on liking him despite that he will probably never land a job on some TV shopping channel

jmom376
September 22, 2009 at 5:30 am

I hope he doesn’t change, especially because of comments from non-fans.

BTW: I still think it is extremely funny that the same 5 or 6 people insist on spamming Kris’s articles. We get you don’t like him and nothing Kris does will be good enough. Yup, I know, this is a blog and you all are allowed to say what you want. Just really funny this is how you choose to spend your time.

I like Kris – a lot. He’s one of my three favorites this season. I don’t see how leveling constructive criticism is in any way spamming. Kris can still be real and personable while utilizing good interview technique.

Basically, Kris has to become like Scott during his interviews? Because I can’t think about someone more obnoxious but he sure promotes himself a lot.

Valentin432
September 22, 2009 at 5:42 am

Basically, Kris has to become like Scott during his interviews? Because I can’t think about someone more obnoxious but he sure promotes himself a lot.

Kris doesn’t need to change who he is and become someone else to give a more effective interview. Technique is what he is lacking (and Scott is the opposite extreme in bad technique).

I edited my post Leeandra and I wasn’t talking about you or anyone else who provides a couple of posts with constructive feedback.

Of the top 4 Kris is the weakest link as far as interviews go.

You’re kidding, right? I seem to recall Idolatry interviews that paint a different picture.

Kris is doing fine in his interviews. He has come a long way since his early interviews on Idol and he will continue to improve over time.

girlygirl
September 22, 2009 at 1:32 am
I hope Kris fans will still buy the single even if they are downloading these MP3′s. Need to support Kris by getting him on the charts ‘” and can’t do that by just downloading the stuff people are ripping off the radio broadcasts’ ¦

I hope so to girlygirl!

Hey everyone. I’m glad you guys like the single. It should be on iTunes on fri. Thanks everyone.about 9 hours ago from Echofon
KrisAllen4Real

Hope Kris, instead of Jim, is correct on the release date!
I can’t wait for this Friday!!!

RemusL
September 22, 2009 at 5:59 am
Of the top 4 Kris is the weakest link as far as interviews go.

You’re kidding, right? I seem to recall Idolatry interviews that paint a different picture.

I don’t think you can equate Idolatry interviews with interviews to sell your CD. Idolatry interviews are done by a fan of American Idol already. They’re about the journey on the show, not selling a product. I think Kris is a fun interview, he’s cute, he’s personable, he’s got a quick wit about him and he’s very likeable. I just think he needs a bit of coaching to sell himself and his music. When the subject is non-music, he’s funny as hell. When it comes to selling himself, he gets a little shy and quiet and loses the enthusiasm. He’s probably uncomfortable touting himself, but it’s necessary these days to sell CD’s outside the AI bubble where we’ve gotten to know what a cool guy he is though our exposure to him from the show. It’s the outside people that count now, that’s who he has to reach and in order to do that, he’s got to generate some enthusiasm about himself and his product.

Kris tweeted – KrisAllen4RealHey everyone. I’m glad you guys like the single. It should be on iTunes on fri. Thanks everyone.

I agree that Kris can learn from Taylor Hicks. Kris, do the EXACT OPPOSITE of everything Taylor Hicks did and you’ll be fine. Good start by playing radio gigs so they have some incentive to, you know, play your music.

I think it’s a sign of our corporate consumerism times that people think that an artist must “promote” themselves, as if they are salesmen selling a product, rather than artists expressing something within themselves.

Do artists like Jason Mraz, Jack Johnson, go around promoting themselves? No, they make their music.

Many artists hate interviews and would like their art to speak for itself.

Kris isn’t a salesman, and doesn’t need to be. He should show up for interviews and be natural. Be himself. And make his music.

I really hate this talk these days of artists being brands. I don’t buy it. Corporations have taken over our culture but nobody has to let them.

I don’t even see Chris Daughtry doing a lot of interviews, he doesn’t seem to be that good at them, but he’s selling millions. Because people like his music. It’s the music that matters. So wait and see what Kris does musically.

sometimes he might slightly bore me. On the other hand, he also won’t put his foot in his mouth and make me facepalm like Adam, Allison and Gokey can all do much more than he does.

Problem is, though, it’s the facepalming ones that keep people talking and listening (especially if the occasional facepalming is accompanied by other, non-cringeworthy interesting stuff).

Kris is a sweetie, and obviously a nice, thoughtful, intelligent guy with a dry wit. But I’m pretty sure that I like him as much as I do in large part because I got to know him over the course of the AI season and tour. If I hadn’t had that experience, I’m not sure his interviews would register on my radar screen.

When he does interviews now, he has to reel in interest from people who haven’t gradually learned to know what a great guy he is. I really do think he would be well served to push the envelope more when he’s talking. Make a little effort to let his deeper and rougher and more imaginative sides show, give more details when he answers a question, etc. Just like a song, an interview needs a hook, I think. And Kris very often doesn’t provide one.

I know Chris D doesn’t do very many interviews and isn’t very good at interviews. But I think his grumpy-ass stage persona and the kind of aggressive silent sexiness that exudes from him sort of make up the difference there, making him more intriguing to people. Kris’s very-nice-guy vibe may not have the same effect, I’m thinking.

That said, though, since he does have major-label promotion and payola behind him, plus their incentive to sell him since he’s the Idol, it’ll be the music that plays the biggest role in making or breaking him, I’m sure.

Alot of musicians are bad at interviews. I’d say the majority in fact. And outside of the Idol bubble, people don’t buy music based on the personality of the artist. They buy music because they like it. So I don’t think Kris’ personality works against him. That said, I find that Kris has a dry sense of humor but he is kind of boring. So I’m rarely tempted to click on his interviews. But they all end up repeating themselves, so I’m not sure how interesting anyone’s interview is after you’ve heard one or two. You really have to be a huge fan to listen to the same questions and answers after awhile.

Good advice Lucy but I can’t see Kris saying anything too controversial ever.

Really, of the top four, only Adam is reasonably polished at interviews. Allison is way too stream-of-consciousness and sounds more 15 than 17. Still, she could be fun on a talk show with a decent interviewer. Danny is mostly incoherent, speaking in “ums” and “ahs” and “know what I’m sayin’?” Plus, he suffers the same problem as Kris, being uncomfortable promoting his work (Sophia’s Heart notwithstanding).

They will all get better with time and Kris and Danny, especially, are light years better now than they were six months ago.

think it’s a sign of our corporate consumerism times that people think that an artist must ‘promote’  themselves, as if they are salesmen selling a product, rather than artists expressing something within themselves.

Sure, but Kris ain’t giving away his album for free, is he? If he wants to make money in the business, he either needs to play the game or be such an extraordinary breakthrough talent that he doesn’t have to.

In other words, he needs to play the game.

It occurred to me that Kris may really have fallen in love with this song when he first heard it. He himself nearly died earlier, (when he was very ill while doing the missionary work), and I’m sure that this song has very personal meaning to him now. So, while all the business arrangements have been discussed on why he ended up with this song, I’m thinking that he really does love the song, too.

Well, If Kris needs to sell himself, and he’s got the backing of some huge entertainment machine, don’t they provide coaching and feedback? Surely he’s not just winging it. They don’t expect that some laid-back college kid from Arkansas is going to be media savvy without a little constructive criticism, do they? I would think there is someone looking over his interviews and telling him what he needs to work on, at least, I’d think so…..surely they’ve had this come up before.

If they are unhappy with the way he operates, surely, they’d let him know (and would’ve done it before now!).

I was on twiter and read that Kris was at Snug Harbor CCBG yesterday,doing a photo shot for his album. So it looks like there finally getting the album going.

Chris D…….the kind of aggressive silent sexiness that exudes from him

ROFLMAO. Eye of the beholder and all. TO ME, Kris wins this battle hands down.

I do, however, agree that Kris needs to up his game a little on the interview front. It never hurts to put out good music AND be able to sell it.

Good advice Lucy but I can’t see Kris saying anything too controversial ever.

Yes, I think you’re right!

Still, it shouldn’t be beyond him to give a little more detail in his answers. I interview people for a living, and, really, to get quoted you don’t necessarily have to spark controversy or be “edgy” or whatever. You just have to put a little depth and detail into your answers rather than stating mainly generalities. Anybody as bright as Kris should be able to do that.

Still, I don’t know that it matters. If his songs take off, noone will care. And if his songs don’t take off right away, then being a good interviewee may help you keep a bit of the spotlight because people will enjoy talking to you, but whether it actually helps your music get played ultimately, I have no idea.

yinyang wrote:

“It occurred to me that Kris may really have fallen in love with this song when he first heard it. He himself nearly died earlier, (when he was very ill while doing the missionary work), and I’m sure that this song has very personal meaning to him now. So, while all the business arrangements have been discussed on why he ended up with this song, I’m thinking that he really does love the song, too.”

And, boy, if this were the case, it’s really what we’re talking about, isn’t it? If he’d said just a tiny bit about this — just communicated a bit of a personal resonance he felt with this song — then that would make his interviews zing like heck.

Or if it’s something else — like he really liked the guitar arrangements and the hook because it reminded him of song x by person y that he loves — then that, too, would make an interview zing at least a little.

It’s a detail thing, a going into some depth thing. Kris probably has very little controversy in him, but I’m sure he has depth and specific personal references and experiences. And if he *does* want to play the fame game — and I’m not saying he has to — he could use those and up his fame-game skills immensely just by doing it.

Chris D’ ¦’ ¦.the kind of aggressive silent sexiness that exudes from him

ROFLMAO. Eye of the beholder and all. TO ME, Kris wins this battle hands down.

For the record, I don’t find Chris particularly sexy either! But I’ve heard that this is how he strikes some people. And I do see that he projects a kind of silent aggression that some folks apparently find quite hot! And, I suspect, its being pretty silent and kind of mysterious and therefore perhaps bad-boy and edgy (even though I don’t think he’s this way in real life at *all*) that gives him a little pr zing (which it’s hard to deny he’s got, based on those album sales!)

Honestly, I don’t find Kris A particularly sexy either (though cute as a button). But for those who do, isn’t it a sort of straightforward, very-nice, cute-guy sexiness? And if it is, then it probably doesn’t provide a whole lot of pr points because a-little-mysterious and possibly-nasty seem to be, in general, way bigger sellers with most of the public than extremely-nice-guy goodlooking ever has been.

ilovekrisallen39
September 22, 2009 at 9:35 am
I was on twiter and read that Kris was at Snug Harbor CCBG yesterday,doing a photo shot for his album. So it looks like there finally getting the album going.

Is that the old house where he did the “Access Hollywood” interview by any chance? I was wondering why they were there! I’m liking where my minds’ going with this…

Kris does just fine in interviews and comes across as the charming, witty person he his. I’m not interested in him trying to sell me a used car or shove his single down my throat. His job is to be likable, which he does extremely well.

I don’t think it matters if he doesn’t please people who aren’t going to buy his music anyway.

I don’t think it matters if he doesn’t please people who aren’t going to buy his music anyway.

I don’t really think this conversation is about that, though. Not from my perspective, anyway. The talent of being a good interviewee doesn’t sell your music to audiences, of course.

But it can make you a person that tv hosts and djs and press interviewers want to talk to. And that gets and keeps your name out there.

That won’t matter at all if your music on its own is really selling itself to a large majority of the people who find it to their taste. But if you’re having any trouble at all reaching all those people at any point, then it certainly doesn’t hurt to be a person whom djs, tv hosts, and press interviewers are really eager to book because they know they’ll have a fun and interesting conversation with you. Never hurts to give somebody in radio or the media a reason to bring you on their show once the hardcore label payola wanes a bit between albums.

From what I’ve seen of Kris over time, I’m sure that he could turn from a good interview into a *great* interview, which is why I want him to, I guess. When I hear or read his interviews, I keep wanting to ask followup questions that will draw him out just a *little* bit more so that his answer goes from good to great. That’s just the reporter in me, I guess.

Still, it shouldn’t be beyond him to give a little more detail in his answers. I interview people for a living, and, really, to get quoted you don’t necessarily have to spark controversy or be ‘edgy’  or whatever. You just have to put a little depth and detail into your answers rather than stating mainly generalities. Anybody as bright as Kris should be able to do that.

First, I’m sorry but I have to disagree that Kris is not good at interviews.

These are entertainment-show interviews and publicity interviews we’re talking about, and he does just great, in my opinion. He makes a positive impression, and as I’ve said before that is far, far more important than being a great wit or being able to rattle off a lot of b.s.

I think if I were managing him I would be delighted. He’s both personable and cool. I doubt anyone who interviews him ends up disliking him, and it’s smart to have interviewers and entertainment reporters in your corner (and he already has a few important ones on his side).

These are morning radio interviews on pop radio stations. They are not in-depth interviews. The style is friendly conversation. The artist just tries to go with the tone set by the DJs and be personable, to roll with their humor. And what they ask, you answer. The whole idea is to be likeable. That’s all, really. And let your music speak for itself. When the interview is a bit more indepth (Slezak), Kris knows how to play that game, also.

I don’t know why people keep thinking Kris needs to tell things about his personal life. If he did, I wouldn’t be surprised if the people who want him to do that end up criticizing him for being mawkish or sentimental, or feeling sorry for himself. Look at Danny as an example of how likeable you are when you talk about stuff like that. Kris isn’t all about himself, that’s all.

That’s what some people are thinking Cookbunny. Over on twitter. I’M really looking forward to his album.

Alot of musicians are bad at interviews. I’d say the majority in fact. And outside of the Idol bubble, people don’t buy music based on the personality of the artist. They buy music because they like it. So I don’t think Kris’ personality works against him. That said, I find that Kris has a dry sense of humor but he is kind of boring. So I’m rarely tempted to click on his interviews. But they all end up repeating themselves, so I’m not sure how interesting anyone’s interview is after you’ve heard one or two. You really have to be a huge fan to listen to the same questions and answers after awhile.

Insightful post, jpfan. I too find Kris’s interviews rather boring – those few I’ve seen or read. I don’t click on them, but he’s not trying to be an actor or entertainer, he’s trying to be a singer. Singers sing, and I’ll be looking forward to his single and his cd, to see if I like it enough to buy it, end of story. Life’s too short for me to focus on a lot of interviews. I listen to music and that’s what I’m looking for, music to listen to. Even with David Cook, whose mind intrigues me as well as his music, I only click on occasional interviews. Who has time?

Sure Kris can improve in doing interviews, and no doubt he will. But that’s not what will make or break his career. Only Idol fans, as you say jpfan, care about this. There are a zillion musicians and singers out there to choose from. Nobody has time to obsess about Kris or his interviews. I mean, when Bob Dylan does an interview I read it, because he has a lot to say, after decades in the business and a sharp intellect, having written hundreds of good songs. But most singers I am interested in their music.

I don’t know why people keep thinking Kris needs to tell things about his personal life.

Actually, I’d like to hear him say a little more about his *musical* life! You can speak with depth and detail without saying a single thing about your personal life!

Nevertheless, in the end you’re absolutely right that the thing that matters by far the most is whether his music resonates with radio pds and the public, and what he says about it comes in a very distant second in importance.

He’s not a big talker. Don’t expect that, because it ain’t gonna happen.

I just don’t think he’s the type. Some, like Bruce Springsteen, just aren’t big talkers.

I think Kris is already better at the game than that, though, and he’s just starting. But I think, mainly, there are all types. Granted, not everyone likes his type. But he can’t be anything else.

In short, be yourself and hopefully the public will come to accept you as you are, and even like you for some of these things that seem like shortcomings at first. It’s smarter than trying to be what you’re not.

I love Kris just the way he is, I dont want him to change at all. I think his really funny and charming. And really down to earth. I could listen to him talk all day. Espically when he does talk about his music his whole face just light’s up. When we saw the clip when he first heard his song on the radio,he was looking like he was in heaven. I love his song also,I think it fits him to a T. On some radio station they played Kris single today and said that the single was a good choice or something like that because the guy there knew about how Kris almost died. And mention it. He also did say that at first when he heardit, the song wasn’t what he was excepting t to. But he really seemed like he really liked the song. The lady on there seemed to like it alot to. But also said it wasn’t what s was excepting either.

He’s not a big talker. Don’t expect that, because it ain’t gonna happen.

Absolutely true, most likely.

He’s very young and inexperienced yet, though. People do change and develop in surprising ways over time. It wouldn’t completely surprise me if, 10 years from now, Kris was a talky artist who gave profound, in-depth interviews about his art and philosophy. Much stranger things have happened!

But I’m one of those who likes to listen to people talk about their crafts. Love Inside the Actors Studio, which I realize makes me an idiot in many people’s opinion!

With Kris — Well, suffice it to say that I kind of believe he’s a person with lots to say …. even though currently he doesn’t say much of it in public!

If he keeps on saying nothing, though, that’s fine with me, too. I buy lots of music from people who say nothing!

I have to agree with you, lucy, I would love to hear Kris talk in depth about his creative processes, etc. I like Inside The Actor’s Studio, myself. If Kris is ever on an interview show of that type, I’m sure he would end up talking about a lot of things that probably don’t fit in with the sort of interview he’s been doing. (He’s still just introducing himself, and I tend to think the main thing right now is to make a good first impression, and little else.) And that type of interview also requires a good, in-depth interviewer. Which is not what morning DJs and Access Hollywood are about.

But for those who do, isn’t it a sort of straightforward, very-nice, cute-guy sexiness?

I don’t see him as being all that straightforward. If anything, he’s withholding. Mystery is appealing. Also, he seems sort of sly and playful, like he’s not quite as nice as he seems. Chicks dig that. Guys seem to dig it, too, as he has many admirers.

He’s not a big talker. Don’t expect that, because it ain’t gonna happen.

If he could be a “big talker with Slezak”, then he could do it at other times. He is going to be expected to show his personality more than other singers out there because he was the AI winner. It is a “singing contest” where people also make judgements on and vote on personalities. You can be humble, but still believe in and promote your music. There is nothing boastful about giving information about your single or music.
If Kris doesn’t want to talk about his private life at all, that’s fine. However, it would help him if he gave a little more concerning his music. I know we hear the same interviews over and over, but what about the potential fans outside the bubble. I’m not saying they will run out and buy the cd just because of an interview, but it could spark enough interest for them to go give it a listen.
You need to strike when the iron is hot. As the winner of AI, Kris is going to be given media opportunities over the next month that most singers would kill for. That’s the beauty of American Idol. The media attention isn’t in direct proportion to music sales. It’s all hype and potential right now. He should take advantage of it.

You need to strike when the iron is hot. As the winner of AI, Kris is going to be given media opportunities over the next month that most singers would kill for. That’s the beauty of American Idol. The media attention isn’t in direct proportion to music sales. It’s all hype and potential right now. He should take advantage of it.

ITA – I’m gonna be a little harsh, but I really believe Kris has got to step it up when it comes to the media handling. He’s a sweet, quiet, keeps to himself kinda guy, but he’s gotta give a little to get back (that is, get people interested in him, create the buzz right now before the album drops, etc.)

He shouldn’t compromise who he is by turning all-Adam in interviews or anything, but he needs to strike that balance between staying true to himself, but giving a little bit back to the media. JMO, of course

I’m gonna be a little harsh, but I really believe Kris has got to step it up when it comes to the media handling. He’s a sweet, quiet, keeps to himself kinda guy, but he’s gotta give a little to get back (that is, get people interested in him, create the buzz right now before the album drops, etc.)

He shouldn’t compromise who he is by turning all-Adam in interviews or anything, but he needs to strike that balance between staying true to himself, but giving a little bit back to the media. JMO, of course

I believe this is what press agents are for?

hmm, he seemed to open up about his creative strategy/outlook with Slezak and the LA Times. guess it depends on the interviewer and if they vibe well w. kris. he does light up/joke around those people he likes. he’s not much of a poker face….if he isn’t feeling the interview or interviewer, he’ll just shut down and give PC answers. Like ross said, publicist and agent are supposed to take care of any PR issues…not the celebrity on his own.

however, I cant scrutinize everything about the guy….there are many people in the industry I love that aren’t big on interviews and don’t create much media buzz (beck, coldplay – sans the Hollywood marriage, kings of leon, radiohead, muse etc). i never look at radiohead and dissect everything about their pr moves, thus why would i do that to a newbie like Kris?

I believe this is what press agents are for?

Yeah, if he wants a talking head speaking for him all the time – which he neither needs, nor, imo, should want.

I’m standing by the argument that he needs to brand himself, whether he wants to or not – that means making the media interested in you – at least at first – to build the buzz, etc.

I’ve listened to this song 3 times now, and love it more each time. I’m very interested to know how it does when it hits radio. Personally, I think it’s a hit, and if it is, that’s all that matters right now. He just needs to keep moving along the path he’s already on. Now, back to the song!!!

When exactly does it “hit” radio? Does it have an official add date? I know stations can play it before that if they want to.

I really love the song. I was listening to it earlier today while making me lunch, and just singing along to it. The chorus just really get’s stick into my head.

Kris does just fine in interviews and comes across as the charming, witty person he his. I’m not interested in him trying to sell me a used car or shove his single down my throat. His job is to be likable, which he does extremely well.
I don’t think it matters if he doesn’t please people who aren’t going to buy his music anyway.

He doesn’t need to come across like a used car salesman, but can still take better advantage of the interviews he’s doing. Mentioning the name of the single isn’t shoving it down our throats. Sounding excited about it, and talking about his music more isn’t being a used car salesman.

For those who already are set on buying Kris’s music, it doesn’t matter. For those who are sure that they won’t buy Kris’s music, it doesn’t matter.

But for those of us who are on the fence about it, and for those who don’t know who Kris is, (he’s now getting exposure outside of AI), he needs to step up his game a little.

If you didn’t know who Kris was, and found his interview boring, the only thing that you might remember when you run across his album for sale is that he was nice, but bland and boring, and that might cause you to think that the album is also bland. (I personally like Kris’s dry wit, but a lot of people aren’t going to get it, and he doesn’t always show his wit in interviews.)

I like Kris, and threw some votes his way. But, he doesn’t hold my attention in an interview, and that tends to make me forget about him. Not a good thing if you want me to remember to buy your music.

I’m probably kind of like Kris, personality-wise. But, when I talk about my work, I get a lot more animated and talkative, because I love what I’m doing. I want to see that in Kris, who should be thrilled that he won AI, and now has this amazing opportunity that he before could only dream about. He doesn’t need to talk about his personal life. He doesn’t need to rattle off a sales pitch. But, he can talk about music, about how excited he is to have this opportunity, about the tour and being in a recording studio, and, oh yeah, mention the name of his new single.

Whether he has a PR person or not, he’s out doing interviews himself right now, and how he comes across in those interviews WILL have some impact on sales, IMO. I’d like to see him be successful, but even as someone cheering him on, I’m not sure I’ll buy his music. I think he could easily sway me, though, by showing more enthusiasm for what he’s doing. If he’s not excited about it, (or doesn’t convey that he is, anyway), why should I be excited about it?

Damn, I checked this thread out on my cell phone while still at work, and you all prompted me to go down the block to the library during lunch so I could type a proper reply. Unlike Kris, I have written a rambling bunch of words.

Similiar to needing a few vocal lessons and conditioning to help Kris better showcase his raw talent, I agree that Kris needs some minor help with interviewing technique and to remember to promote his album more frequently. However Kris is an absolute natural for eventually being great at interviews with time and proper training, but you can’t please everyone, so Kris will never be able to appeal to everyone. Similiar to musical style, not everyone should have the same interview style. Kris is refreshing different to me.

This is going to sound OTT and nuts, but out of everyone who has ever been on Idol, and I have numerous favorites, hands down Kris is my favorite Idol contestant of all time when it comes to interviews. I respect that others disagree, but I just wish critics realized that some of us love Kris’s interviews the way that he is, just being himself. Have no problem with constructive criticism, but Kris is naturally likable and genuine.

I just naturally connect with what Kris is saying, appreciate that he can get to the point, and that he often takes the time to give a thoughtful answer. Also, Kris adapts to the person that is doing the interviewer, so Kris’s interviews vary widely and they do depend on the interviewer. I love that listening to Kris is like sitting down and having a normal conversation with a person, and I can tell that Kris really loves people.

I normally hate celebrity interviews and tune out most rambling self-promotion types, but I can’t get enough of Kris interviews. I pay attention to Idol interviews from time to time, but Kris is only one of two Idol contestants that I have made the effort to listen (or read) every interview that he does, and being the winner, Kris is hard to keep up with. My only constructive criticism is that since I listen/read every interview, that I can piece and string along information from several interviews together so I am filling in gaps. The casual person will not have listened/read multiple interviews. However this is a fixable thing.

I don’t even know how Kris knows which way is up, he has been so busy constantly going from place to place in a whirlwind, and Kris himself may not be fully aware of what is going on in his own career to better promote himself. I also get the impression that his publicity people are more used to the opposite of Kris, because Kris has mentioned that he is not supposed to say benches because it sounded like bitches, that he is not supposed to mention anything before it is official, that he is not supposed to mention this or that. Instead of helping Kris talk more, I have the image of his PR people running around in constant damage mode telling Kris what he is not supposed to say.

I’m probably kind of like Kris, personality-wise. But, when I talk about my work, I get a lot more animated and talkative, because I love what I’m doing. I want to see that in Kris, who should be thrilled that he won AI, and now has this amazing opportunity that he before could only dream about.

ITA – Yinyang, with the whole post! But this especially jumped out at me! Sure, Adam may talk a little TOO much about the album from time to time, but you can’t deny he gets super excited and happy about discussing it whenever the subject comes up.

Us fans love it, but more importantly, when he starts doing these shpeels in front of other media outlets, showing that enthusiasm and excitement, even if you’re selling crap, you are going to get people more excited for the material. It’s like going in for a job interview, you gotta make yourself come across as the best thing since sliced bread (without getting arrogant, of course ) Kris can show that enthusiam without seeming arrogant.

I think he naturally tends to minimize his accomplishments, though, sometimes to the detriment of trying to sell himself (and yes, as someone in the music biz, he will ALWAYS have to sell himself, some way or another, as everyone in the biz does – from Beyonce all the way down to Michael Sarver).

As a fan, I would rather see Kris continue to do his interviews in his easy laid back style than try to be something he’s not. I realize no one is asking him to be a car salesman, but it almost seems as if some are looking for something, I don’t know, non-Kris? (Maybe, maybe not…) I guess I could go on and on about how all idols should do their interviews, (because I believe some talk too much) but perhaps in the same way some like different music, various interview styles appeal to different people.

Soapbox, I agree so much with all you said about Kris and his interview style. Especially this:

However Kris is an absolute natural for eventually being great at interviews with time and proper training,

I’m not even so sure training is needed as much as experience and perhaps some constructive suggestions here and there that can really click with who he is.

Meanwhile, this song continues to grow on me. I lurve the ending with the bridge and how it goes into the chorus. I can’t wait to hear it on the radio!!!

ETA: Since Adam’s excitement was brought up, I guess I don’t always see it as genuine…nothing against his, I like the guy.

I listened to the song once yesterday afternoon (twice if you count The Script’s version), and all I have to say is, it’s definitely extremely catchy. Since then, I did a ton of homework (listening to my iPod the whole time), gave two piano lessons, and practiced piano, and it was still stuck in my head all day today! I just listened to it again and I still really like it. Can’t wait until it’s released on iTunes!

Jim Cantiello seems to feel sort of the same way I do, lol:

Okay, apparently I will never ever develop the knack of putting links on this blog. However, at least when you click on any paragraph in the quote, it seems to take you to the article. Geez. Sorry about that.

Don’t worry about it Lucy, I think that huge swath of purple is pretty!

I heard when people are around Kris they find him so comfortable and friendly they just like hanging out with him and as Jim put it “shooting the ____”. I think that is why there are so many Kr—–s (Kradam, Krillison, Kratt..etc).

I never read interviews of singers EVER until I started watching Idol. I mean, like NOT EVER. So I find it hard to believe that his whole career is going to be hanging on whether he can dredge up a more loquacious interviewing style. Frankly, I find some idols’ tendencies to yammer on and on and on to be annoying, but I wasn’t going to buy their music anyway.

I like the song. I think it will be fine.

Adam tweets;

Go listen to @KrisAllen4Real ‘s single, Live Like We’re Dying http://bit.ly/pCuAk Go Kris!!!

Adam is such a good friend to Kris.

Adam is supporting his friend. <3 Adam.

I drained a pot of spaghetti yesterday that exhibited more personality than Kris Allen did in this all important Z100 interview. Maybe somebody there should have sauced him and added meatballs.

CRB ^^^^ that, is funny -

I drained a pot of spaghetti yesterday that exhibited more personality than Kris Allen did in this all important Z100 interview. Maybe somebody there should have sauced him and added meatballs.

I enjoyed Kris’s interview and love his mellow, natural genuine likable personality. Not everybody appeals to everybody, but as someone who normally hates celebrity interviews, I am thankful that Kris is Kris.

“He’s not a big talker. ”

A lot has to do with the interviewer and how they handle the situation. The interviewer should always do some research on the person they are interviewing. If they know the person is not a big talker, it is up to them to elicit more information by asking leading questions the will require a response and not a one word answer. Then ask follow-up questions along the same line to get more detail. Most people in my experience who are non-talkers will open up more the more they talk. So, once you get them started, sometimes it is hard to get them to stop. This could be hard in a 5 minute interview so you have to take any opportunity before the interview to light the match. Sometimes it even helps to give them the heads up on the questions and tell them up front what you would like them to do. From some of the interviews with Kris I have seen it is the interviewer who is stale and make the interview way to formal. If they would relax, Kris will relax and give you what you want.