Kris Allen Interview with Ryan Seacrest, Plus More Co-Writes!

I am so excited about that Jonathan Foreman – Kris Allen collaboration. Switchfoot is awesome!!!

I’m glad you agree, mj. The interview did sorta suck a lot. BUT at least it got Kris’s name out to more ppl and they played his song, amidst the dreck. And why didn’t Kris mention any of his collaborators???

I have a feeling that Kris’s album will also be entitled KRIS ALLEN, tho Jordin’s wasn’t (was it?).

Mike Elizondo also co-wrote Carrie’s new single “Cowboy Casanova”. He is also the guy in the leaked studio pic of Kris and Chris Daughtry.

That interview was bad, not a good promo for Kris at all.

The whole cover story was made worse because Kris didn’t acknowledge at first than tried to downplay it “B side in Germany”. The problem in saying that is that it also a bad publicity for the track.

And yes, the “what did you write about last night” part was awkward too, Kris clearly doesn’t know how to promote himself, it doesn’t mean he needs to change who he is, just come a little more prepared to these interviews.

Ryan’s questions didnt suck, Kris’s answers did

I am so excited about that Jonathan Foreman ‘“ Kris Allen collaboration. Switchfoot is awesome!!!

and i thought i’m the only one whose excited!!!!!!!! i love switchfoot to death…my all time favourites…i love most of their songs cos they are soo meaningful, and though i’m not a christian and switchfoot also has officially said they are not a christian band, i love the meaning in their songs. just listen to these two! they are absolute favourites!

Learning to Breathe! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUtQYYLSPU

Dare you to move http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQX9krZ23B0

maybe kris remembers ryan’s diss…that he will only rank somewhere above taylor hicks in the terms of successful AI Champs

i normally listen to Ryan on the way to work, and trust me, his interviews are normally awkward and (sometimes) obnoxious. after all, this is the guy that gets geeked up over the Hills and reads excerpts from the Twilight series like a 12yr old girl. kinda reminds me of why i dont like watching him on the redcarpet….his questions are always off and sometimes the banter is embarassing.

Ryan interrupted the interview to talk with the fans of MJ, because Kris couldn’t give him anything. He was extremely tired and inarticulate, maybe sleepy. I listened all Kris’s interviews with Seacrest, and he never sounded so lost and boring. It’s a shame, really, because Ryan’s show is a biggest platform on the radio.
As for questions, they were pretty predictable – also unusual for Seacrest. But I think the main problem were answers, not questions.

Ryan, your questions kinda sucked, and what was with the interruption to talk with fans waiting for Michael Jackson tickets?

I swear… lot of time I found Ryan’s so rude to people he interviewed. And he thinks he’s funny and that’s okay to be rude. I am just so glad he didn’t win that Emmy last week.

Wasn’t it Simon who dissed him and not Ryan? I thought Ryan just chortled along like usual. I could be misremembering though.

When Ryan asked, he couldn’t remember what he wrote in a songwriting session last night Duh!)

LOL MJ, he said “i dont know” as in ” i cant describe it”….he did continue on to say what it was about “life” etc. if anything, he didnt seem eager to discuss it. writing songs is like writing in a journal, its a personal process. nobody I know that writes, creates music or art is that specific and positive about their work immediately after they have ” finished” it. the boy was just brainstorming last nite, you cant expect anyone to put into concise words a feeling just mere hours after the fact.

maybe kris remembers ryan’s diss’ ¦that he will only rank somewhere above taylor hicks in the terms of successful AI Champs

With all due respect, Ryan’s show is a huge platform on the radio. And it’s in Kris’s best interest to be good on the radio and to prove them (Ryan including, although Ryan always liked him on the show, even too much) wrong. But it definitely didn’t worked.
As for Ryan, he has a very sarcastic sense of humour, many things he does on the radio are absolutely tongue-in-cheek. But he was clearly tired during this interview – and Kris didn’t give him anything to get excited about.

Ryan’s an ass.

Ryan’s an ass.

…and a huge tool!

That interview was pretty bad. He has no presence and I can’t imagine anyone listening to this and being interested in his music. Kris was my favorite throughout the competition, but now that time has passed my love for him has worn off a lot. I think he was interesting compared to his competition, but I now think that has more to do with a super weak batch of contestants. Kris has no charisma like this interview shows, Allison is missing the right spark to be a big star, and Adam is the most irritating contestant since Taylor Hicks and will fail like all gimmicks. There are no Kellys, Carries, Daughteries, or even Davids or Jordins in this batch. Bring on Season 9!

Does anybody really think listeners are thinking about that interview right now? Geez! they probably enjoyed the song and are on their computers buying now . I bet we are the only ones concerned.
Anyway, I’m just happy for Kris and pray he does well which I’m positive he will.
Who says Kris couldn’t give him anything? And what was that question about what he was writing about yesterday?
Ryan has always been like that and frankly, people buying the sng don’t care about any interview.

Ryan’s questions didnt suck, Kris’s answers did

As much as I really like Kris, I have to agree with this. Kris just seemed off in this interview, and I guess the grueling schedule and lack of sleep could be the cause. Idk…

The interview wasn’t good on either end. Thank god for twitter, because that’s where we’ve learned more about who Kris is working with. And he sounds more excited in his tweets — the one he posted about Jonathan Foreman & Mike Elizondo was very excited and upbeat.

Kris is writing with a lot of talented, successful people…which is a big reason why I didn’t believe Rickey’s blog about the album being “a mess”.

LLWD is doing very well on ITunes right now – #19 on the Pop chart. Not bad considering it was only released about 12 hours ago…

I just don’t get what the BFD is about this interview. I thought Ryan came across like typical Ryan, and Kris came across like typical Kris. I can’t fathom what has everybody so worked up.

I’m neither a fan nor foe of Kris’s… but I absolutely have to agree with vanjess38

Wasn’t it Simon who dissed him and not Ryan? I thought Ryan just chortled along like usual.

they both dissed him..ryan tried to get a rise out of simon, simon called his bluff and asked him to rank kris….ryan agreed that he wasn the best idol or even the top tier. so yeah, it came off as diss from both the host and the main judge. ouchy

Wasn’t it Simon who dissed him and not Ryan? I thought Ryan just chortled along like usual. I could be misremembering though.

Ryan was extremely supportive of Kris on the show. I was annoyed by that sometimes, because I don’t like when people on the show play favorites. He praised Kris a lot on the radio. As for this interview with Simon, Cowell asked him how he would rate Kris among other winners, and Ryan said in the middle (and let’s be honest, it does make sense), above Taylor and Ruben – and then him and Simon started to joke about how they couldn’t remember who else won the show.

the interview sucked

he should have spent his time working on his other songs in london. what a waste of his time!

I bet we are the only ones concerned.

what?!!? us, AI nerds overthinking and overtalking the smallest, misc detail possible? ive never heard of such a thing!

I really like “Dare you to move” a lot!

and what was with the interruption to talk with fans waiting for Michael Jackson tickets?

In boxing terms, I think Seacrest was trying to give the kid an opportunity to stagger to his corner and let his “cut man” work on him. This was right after the kid said he didn’t know how much was left on the album and couldn’t remember what he wrote about last night.

Seacrest probably figured the guy needed to regroup. This isn’t Ryan’s first interview. I’m sure he’s had guests who were too stoned to string three coherent words together in a row and gone to a break to give them an opportunity to pull it together.

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Kris has a lot of charisma…go look at his recent interviews with Slezak and Cantiello. Or any interview he has done with Allison and/or Adam. Or that interview with Maxwell from the Columbus tour spot. Very funny and charming in all of those interviews. He was probably dead tired this morning and Ryan didn’t work very hard to make the interview interesting.

Kris isn’t a guy who seems comfortable tooting his own horn. Everything he says is “we” not “I”. So he will struggle at times with his interviews. But he is a very likable guy with a dry, snarky sense of humor who can be a very good interview at times. Hopefully once his album drops and he has a little more leeway about giving details he will eventually open up a little more about his work — it seems like the label might have told him not to give out too many details — and that combined with Kris’ natural laid-back reticence can result in some bad interviews.

EDIT – But I don’t think any of this matters all that much to anyone other than the most diehard AI fans. Non-AI fans likely only care about whether they liked the single.

I love that Kris is working with Mike Elizondo! I love a lot of the songs that he works on, especially Maroon 5 and Fiona Apple.

I didn’t want to comment on the other thread till I heard the interview and it’s not as bad as I thought. From the comments u wld think Ryan was extremely rude to kris or something… it’s typical Ryan down to the talking to the MJ fans. He does it to other celebs as well . I used to think his phone interviews were recorded cos they keep them on and divert to something else, then commercials etc and the person is still there.

That cover question had to be asked at some point. Problem is the response kris gave sounded unprepared. Did Jive/kris think no one wld ask? The other questions were routine, what are u working on, what did u write last night, what do u think of paula?. all open questions no “gotcha” question there.

Kris has no charisma like this interview shows, Allison is missing the right spark to be a big star, and Adam is the most irritating contestant since Taylor Hicks and will fail like all gimmicks.

Well, now…I hope all three of them prove you 100 percent wrong. And I think they will.

A lot of ppl (well, most ppl) don’t listen to Ryan (I mean, if you aren’t in the idol bubble, and you don’t live in the LA area, you may–lots of stations pick him up–but I sure don’t). I don’t buy music based on interviews but on recommendations (e.g., Muse). So I don’t think *this* particular interview will have much bearing on Kris’s successful (in fact, it won’t). But it’s a lot more fun watching an interview where the person being interviewed is up and excited than one where he/she is kind of…boring. I think Kris is exhausted and also will do better as interviews go on. And if you already think he’s doing fine, then he will continue to do fine. I don’t want Kris to change; I just want him to *sound* more enthused. We know he is.

(Ha. It’ll probably end up self-titled like most Idol albums). — MJ

I prefer that than, for example, THE REAL THING — bo bice. Paula kept calling Bo the real thing and I guess they thought it would make for a snappy title. Kinda embarrassing.

Ryan tries to “outcool” all his guests or kisses up to the ones that he thinks are big in the biz. He comes off phoney to me. I think he is a genuine guy, but not when he’s wearing his DJ- TV host- hats. It’s all just a big game. I don’t know if Kris will ever play it. But nothing is stopping him from winning on his own terms. He’s done it so far.

It wasn’t great. Kris probably did need some coffee before the interview. I don’t think, on the other hand, it was a total trainwreck. Kris does seem to have a habit, though, of shutting down with people he’s not comfortable with. I don’t think he completely lacks charisma, as some people are saying. But he should either work on making himself more comfortable in interviews or learn how to get around that.

Kris is writing with a lot of talented, successful people’ ¦which is a big reason why I didn’t believe Rickey’s blog about the album being ‘a mess’ .

The AI tour is over and maybe.. just maybe Rickey’s losing lots of viewers/readers, so he needs to create “things” to make Kris’ /Idol fans visit his website again …. just maybe, IDK.

Seacrest probably figured the guy needed to regroup

yeah, thats it…Seacrest was sooooooo concerned for his victim, i mean guest, that he wanted to give him a chance to come back swinging. ah, the seacrest i listen to each morning, makes ALL interviews uncomfortable. i recall when he kept harrasing Gerald Butler to admit he’s a man whore (LOL, yes) and all Gerald (who is normally witty) could do is give awkward laughs with long pauses. Classic Ryan.

The only thing that matters is that Ryan played the song.

Kris was fine. He was sleepy. MJ’s right about the coffee need. Or mainline the Red Bulls before those early morning interviews. He got better at the end. The rest sounded like a 24-year-old laid back guy. Lots of singers sound just like that in interviews. Probably other 24-year-old guys think he sounded good, man. And women of all ages who saw Kris live or on TV probably remember how he looked. And only hardcore fans who know how funny he is would know — or care — what’s missing. And they’re all at iTunes watching the ranking feed anyway.

And even if Kris had been on his coolest, driest, funniest A-game, it would have made minimal difference to whether the drive time audience for that show buys the song. That audience knows AI. Knows Kris. And so would be interested to hear what he did for his single.

And on a show that had some guy named Fat Daniel talking about no shower, Michael Jackson movie tickets, and Britney Spears, it’s possible Shakespearean responses would have been lost.

Kris tends to respond genuinely instead of with prepared answers. Eventually he’ll learn that prepared answers can be genuine. The preparation helps you convey fuller real feelings, not forget stuff.

And repeat: The only thing that matters is that Ryan played the song. Now the only other thing that matters is that Ryan plays it again and again.

To me, one of the most interesting? problematic? answers was this one:

Ryan: how far along are you [on the album]?

Kris: to be honest, man, I really don’t know … we have a lot of songs, but, ah, we’re still writing stuff … writing pretty much every day until … we got like until October 15th to finish.

How does one interpret this? This coupled with the Rickey info from the other day makes me worry that things are a little disorganized in the Kris/Jive camp. I guess I might have expected (hoped for) something along the lines of “we’ve got our core songs in place and we’re trying to fill in a few spots” or “we’ve got a ton of songs, the tough job will be to whittle them down” or “we’re finetuning stuff and continuing to write some new stuff.”

I know it’s a near impossible task to put out an album while in the midst of a 52-city tour and it makes sense to utilize every available week, day, minute to keep working on it AND I know Kris is not the best communicator so there’s an inherent risk in overanalyzing his words … but still, there’s something about the tone here that’s unsettling and if these words had come out of Adam’s mouth, believe me, I’d be feeling the same thing.

Maybe it’s the fact that his deadline is only three weeks away and he sounded completely sincere when he said he really didn’t know how far along they were. Is that because they’re not happy with the stuff they have and are hoping better songs will be coming through the pipeline? Or maybe there’s stuff that Kris likes and wants on the album but he hasn’t quite persuaded the record folks yet (or vice versa). All speculation (hey, it’s what we do here!) but still unsettling.

he should have spent his time working on his other songs in london. what a waste of his time!

A waste of his time? To get an interview on the top rated morning drive show on the top pop station in one of the two biggest markets i the country, interviewed by a national TV star and syndicated radio host?

If that’s a waste of his time, I guarantee there are thousands of hungry young musicans around the country who would cut off their right arm to waste some of their time like that.

Seacrest was sooooooo concerned for his victim, i mean guest

I think Ryan is a tool… but no one is a victim here. I’d like to assume this was an exaggeration to make a point.

I thought Ryan came across like typical Ryan,

I think, when it comes down to it, I don’t like Ryan much as an interviewer.

They both seemed off ot me – Ryan is usually so hyper and it wasn’t there and Kris sounded like he was asleep – I was kind of hoping for a reference to Kris and Katy’s anniversary which is tomorrow

I seriously don’t think that interview will make or break his career. I can’t imagine that, hypothetically, a listener outside the AI bubble will hear the song and enjoy it and would purchase it under any other circumstances, but changes his/her mind because of his hemming and hawing on a morning show.

I’ve definitely heard Kris give better AM drive radio interviews, and no, Adam wasn’t with him, so that’s not the reason. Not sure what was going on today. I don’t entirely blame Seacrest since an interview is a two way street, but I was kind of annoyed that he implied that the song would be too fast for him to sing live.

maybe kris remembers ryan’s diss’ ¦that he will only rank somewhere above taylor hicks in the terms of successful AI Champs

Haha, or this

the interview sucked

he should have spent his time working on his other songs in london. what a waste of his time!

I think the interview goes under the heading of — There’s no such thing as bad publicity.

A lot of people heard that Kris has a new song out. He sounded like the nice, maybe kind of sleepy, laid-back guy that he is. His speaking voice is nice to listen to!

Having heard him on the show and been told there’s a new song out, some folks will give it a listen and maybe buy it. That’s all you need from publicity like this. And you really can’t pass up publicity like this, especially when it happens on a radio station with a huge audience in a huge city!

Lots of Kris tweets today. I mean, LOTS OF THEM. But this is my favorite, and it’s in relation to his single:

YO THE SCRIPT, I’M HAPPY FOR YOU AND I’MMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT I HAVE THE BEST VERSION OF LIVE LIKE WE’RE DYING OF ALL TIME!3 minutes ago from web

ROTFL

This coupled with the Rickey info from the other day makes me worry that things are a little disorganized in the Kris/Jive camp.

Forget the Rickey information–it was exaggerated 3rd hand information. Trust me on this one.

I think Ryan is a tool’ ¦ but no one is a victim here. I’d like to assume this was an exaggeration to make a point.

assumption is correct. it was more an effort to poke fun at ryan, regardless of who he is interviewing, he always tends to mess up the moment. on the radio and on the redcarpet. in a way, its kinda funny to watch the trainwreck.

what FifthHouseSun said

just want to add a thanks to Ryan for mentioning that the single is up on Itunes.

yeah, thats it’ ¦Seacrest was sooooooo concerned for his victim, i mean guest, that he wanted to give him a chance to come back swinging.

Seacrest is number one radio person in the country (in music and pop-culture), and many actors, and musicians, and producers, and politicians are happy to be on his show to promote their projects. It’s not his fault Kris was out of his depth this morning. I downloaded and listened interview again – and I just didn’t heard any rude or dissmissing comments. His questions were predictable, but not rude. And yes, questions about cover is a legitimate one. And he asked him about changing this song, because that’s what Kris is famous for – he changes songs to fit his style.

YO THE SCRIPT, I’M HAPPY FOR YOU AND I’MMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT I HAVE THE BEST VERSION OF LIVE LIKE WE’RE DYING OF ALL TIME!3 minutes ago from web

hehehe! love kris to have a sense of humour despite all the apparent negativity about the song being a cover! goo kris!

@Mark: Good point.

That interview didn’t do Kris any good, but people don’t love Kris because he is great in interviews — it’s about the music.

That said, even for Kris this wasn’t a good interview — and that wasn’t Ryan’s fault. Kris sounded tired, and wasn’t giving Ryan anything to work with.

Finally, Ryan has never dissed Kris — he gave an assessment that seems reasonable — that Kris would be in the middle of the Idol pack, above Taylor and Ruben. That is not a dis, Ruben had a #1 album that sold 1.8 million units (US). Adjusted for the current market’s deflated sales units, that sales share would be about 1 million units.

A waste of his time? To get an interview on the top rated morning drive show on the top pop station in one of the two biggest markets i the country, interviewed by a national TV star and syndicated radio host?

If that’s a waste of his time, I guarantee there are thousands of hungry young musicans around the country who would cut off their right arm to waste some of their time like that.

I’ve got to agree with hwc. Ryan’s show is a monster in L.A. (do not ask me why), but he was even doing a phone interview with his competition the other day (Kevin and Bean at KROQ) and they were mocking the hell out of themselves because they are OWNED by Ryan ratings-wise. He dominates over some pretty formidable competition.

L.A. is the second largest media market in the country. Morning drive is prime time. And there are A LOT more people driving in the L.A. market than the N.Y. market, so I would say this is probably about the biggest radio gig as anyone’s going to get.

Excuse me, but Seacrest is number one radio person in the country (in music and pop-culture), and many actors, and musicians, and producers, and politicians are happy to be on his show to promote their projects

Everyone except Angelina Jolie – she his nemesis

I think that, to be fair to the kid, we need to say that his interview was a heck of a lot better than this classic radio band interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJWS6qyy7bw

This one’s so good, it even got a skit on SNL.

SarahP:

YO THE SCRIPT, I’M HAPPY FOR YOU AND I’MMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT I HAVE THE BEST VERSION OF LIVE LIKE WE’RE DYING OF ALL TIME!3 minutes ago from web

hehehe! love kris to have a sense of humour despite all the apparent negativity about the song being a cover! goo kris!

That is not on Twitter — from Kris or anyone I can find. Where is it from?

Ryan: how far along are you [on the album]?

Kris: to be honest, man, I really don’t know ‘ ¦ we have a lot of songs, but, ah, we’re still writing stuff ‘ ¦ writing pretty much every day until ‘ ¦ we got like until October 15th to finish.

How does one interpret this? This coupled with the Rickey info from the other day makes me worry that things are a little disorganized in the Kris/Jive camp. I guess I might have expected (hoped for) something along the lines of ‘we’ve got our core songs in place and we’re trying to fill in a few spots’  or ‘we’ve got a ton of songs, the tough job will be to whittle them down’  or ‘we’re finetuning stuff and continuing to write some new stuff.’ 

Actually, I think this is the way it is with many albums at this point in the process. You churn out lots and lots of songs. And the actual direction the album will finally take and what songs make the cut tend not to be decided on until the last minute — *and* there’s always hope (often realized) that that final song you write in the final frenzy when you’re all heated up will be a masterpiece that *will* make the cut, make the whole thing fall together, show you what direction you’ve actually been going in, etc.

I think this was just an honest answer that’s not at all unusual or alarming in any way, frankly. They’re in the last throes of creating and decision making. And that’s hardly ever a clearcut process that you actually understand while you’re in the middle of it.

That said, it might be a good thing if, over time, Kris learns to be a little bit less honest and spur-of-the-moment and rehearse some nice, self-promotional sound bites to spit out as he’s answering questions like this. Doing that’s just part of being in the public eye.

Everyone except Angelina Jolie ‘“ she his nemesis

LOL! I remember Ryan having a hissy fit when Brangelina snubbed him.

Learning to Breathe! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUtQYYLSPU

Dare you to move http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQX9krZ23B0

hmmm I was totally confusing Switchfoot with Finger Eleven, but I like them both so it’s all good.

I think that, to be fair to the kid, we need to say that his interview was a heck of a lot better than this classic radio band interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJWS6qyy7bw

This one’s so good, it even got a skit on SNL.

OMFG I have not laughed so hard in a long time. Where they stoned or just idiots?

I think, when it comes down to it, I don’t like Ryan much as an interviewer.

He’s extremely energetic, and he’s very LA, and sometimes he comes out with absolutely unpredictable and insane questions, but it’s his style – you either love it or not. It’s better than generic and boring questions from most interviewers. But yeah, I understand why people sometimes don’t get him.

I think that, to be fair to the kid, we need to say that his interview was a heck of a lot better than this classic radio band interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJWS6qyy7bw

This one’s so good, it even got a skit on SNL.

OMFG I have not laughed so hard in a long time. Where they stoned or just idiots?

God, I forgot about that. One of my former interns is doing the Boxmasters’ PR (I think she started after this, poor thing). She was killing herself to get a job for so long after graduating college and landed this great gig, but if this is what she has to contend with, I feel soooo sorry for her.

With all due respect, Ryan’s show is a huge platform on the radio. And it’s in Kris’s best interest to be good on the radio and to prove them (Ryan including, although Ryan always liked him on the show, even too much) wrong. But it definitely didn’t worked.

with all due respect? LOL it was a J O K E. i was being sarcastic. guess the smiley face i inserted in my original sentence failed me

I honestly don’t think it matters much if Kris comes across as a poor interviewee. As has been mentioned, not many people outside the bubble are going to dissect the interview or even think twice about it. My guess is that most listeners have probably forgotten it by now and only remember the song, whether they liked it or not. So, I don’t really think a bad interview is going to hurt him much but I don’t think it’s going to help him much either – it will probably be more like it never happened.

However, I definitely think he could use some interview-coaching. Because even if bad interviews don’t hurt you, good interviews can definitely help you. If you sound enthusiastic and are able to bring your point across, excite the interviewer and make the audience feel like you’re speaking to them it will increase the chance of more people looking out for new material from you and being willing to check that out. Being a good interviewee is just a much better way to recruit new fans.

All of the above is of course just my opinion.

Everyone except Angelina Jolie ‘“ she his nemesis

Well, she’s probably the only one (even Brad talked to him) – he has a lot of stars on his show. Like him or not, but he gave Kris a favour when he invited him on his show. And to diss him because Kris wasn’t very good – well, it’s pretty weird. And maybe it’s me – but I just don’t see how he was rude or assy to Kris.

Wow still asking about Paula? Couldn’t think of anything better? At least he mentioned it’s on iTunes, but didn’t ask WHY on a Friday which seemed at least as obvious as asking about the “cover.” And, hey, the song got played. The interruptions and repeated name dropping of Britney Spears were OTT. Seacrest is really more of a Seamonster.

I think any Kris is good Kris. I love that he doesn’t “front” but I also know that people, especially younger music buying types, respond favorably to that kind of bragging.

Edit: I see he’s up to #43 on iTunes! Go Kris!

However, I definitely think he could use some interview-coaching. Because even if bad interviews don’t hurt you, good interviews can definitely help you. If you sound enthusiastic and are able to bring your point across, excite the interviewer and make the audience feel like you’re speaking to them it will increase the chance of more people looking out for new material from you and being willing to check that out. Being a good interviewee is just a much better way to recruit new fans.

This is exactly what I was thinking.

ETA: In my world getting excited and talking about your art does not = bragging. The audience is generally drawn to artist that speak passionately about their work.. whether it is music, writing or drawing, etc. People want to be drawn into the artist’s world, they want to have a view into how the artist sees the world.

Lots of Kris tweets today. I mean, LOTS OF THEM. But this is my favorite, and it’s in relation to his single:

YO THE SCRIPT, I’M HAPPY FOR YOU AND I’MMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT I HAVE THE BEST VERSION OF LIVE LIKE WE’RE DYING OF ALL TIME!3 minutes ago from web

ROTFL

Is there a fake KrisAllen4Real Twitter Account with only 5 followers?

http://bit.ly/5R36W

That tweet came from this fake account.

I think, when it comes down to it, I don’t like Ryan much as an interviewer.

ditto

Sorry, I was wrong about Kris tweet. Must have been from one of his poseurs or something. I thought that there were too many tweets from him in one day.

Well, his single just keeps climbing. Guess he didn’t need the iTunes pass or album for LLWD to fly up the charts!

And I want Kris to stay Kris, just a little bit more…okay, not knowledgeable. Just more up with people. And you’re right, it does depend on the interviewer but ALSO on the visuals. He did much better with Cantiello and Slezak b/c it wasn’t just audio, IMO.

I think, when it comes down to it, I don’t like Ryan much as an interviewer.

I think, when it does down to it, Kris was not very prepared for that interview. It’s just like Jive has thrown him out there with no prep — and Kris really need help with how to position himself.

And to waste an interview with Ryan on the day his song goes on sale was just sad to see. I haven’t seen anything about what kind of team Jive/19R has put together for Kris, but they should fire whoever is working PR.

Regarding the album — the collaborator list is looking pretty good to me. And with another Christian/crossover songwriter, I am expecting to see Kris’ album marketed in the Christian market — like Jive did so well with Jordin’s album. IMO it would be a smart Marketing move to push Kris in the Christian/Inspirational market.

And maybe it’s me ‘“ but I just don’t see how he was rude or assy to Kris.

He wasnt!

Ryan’s show is a monster in L.A. (do not ask me why),

its the only station in LA that plays pop music. you will find pop, r&b, lite rap, and some rock…all mainstream songs. while power 106 has hip hop and kroq does rock, kiss plays all the genres. and morning shows are the most popular by nature bc of the morning commute ….before Ryan took over the show from Rick Dees, Kiss was still the number 1 morning show in LA. its not ryan as much as the radio format.

God, I forgot about that. One of my former interns is doing the Boxmasters’ PR (I think she started after this, poor thing). She was killing herself to get a job for so long after graduating college and landed this great gig, but if this is what she has to contend with, I feel soooo sorry for her.

Oh, the poor thing. I can just picture it. Fresh out of college. Landed that great job. Never having a clue that the last 17 public relations people for the Boxmasters slit their wrists!

I am a huge Billy Bob fan. I think Slingblade is one of the best movies ever made, but wow was he a jerk in this interview.

Some of his answers did remind me of the kid this morning.

“So, tell me how the album is coming along?”

“I don’t know what you are talking about…

I guess I might have expected (hoped for) something along the lines of ‘we’ve got our core songs in place and we’re trying to fill in a few spots’  or ‘we’ve got a ton of songs, the tough job will be to whittle them down’  or ‘we’re finetuning stuff and continuing to write some new stuff.’ 

That’s the kind of answers that you could expect come from Adam. HA

It’s just like Jive has thrown him out there with no prep ‘” and Kris really need help with how to position himself.

I don’t believe this at all. To me, this interview was no different than MOnday’s (it was just monday, right?) interview. He shouldn’t have needed any additional prep to answer the same questions.

Wow still asking about Paula? Couldn’t think of anything better?

He asked him better questions – about his single, his album, his lyrics, and Kris struggled with answers every single time.

I think that, to be fair to the kid, we need to say that his interview was a heck of a lot better than this classic radio band interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJWS6qyy7bw

This one’s so good, it even got a skit on SNL.

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!!

Actually, I think this is the way it is with many albums at this point in the process. You churn out lots and lots of songs. And the actual direction the album will finally take and what songs make the cut tend not to be decided on until the last minute ‘” *and* there’s always hope (often realized) that that final song you write in the final frenzy when you’re all heated up will be a masterpiece that *will* make the cut, make the whole thing fall together, show you what direction you’ve actually been going in, etc.

Well, certainly there have been examples of albums that have been years in the making that have bombed and songs written on cocktail napkins that have gone on to become mega-hits, so I hope you’re right about last minute album frenzy being more the norm. The next three weeks will be an intense time for Kris for sure.

And maybe it’s me ‘“ but I just don’t see how he was rude or assy to Kris.

he wasnt rude to kris. ryan is just a tool and tends to be rude/inapprorpriate/obnoxious in general. not specifically in this interivew. most people here are expressing that they dont like ryan as an interviewer, period. and sometimes his vibe or persona, gives his his audience a bad vibe.

I am a huge Billy Bob fan. I think Slingblade is one of the best movies ever made, but wow was he a jerk in this interview.

Some of his answers did remind me of the kid this morning.

‘So, tell me how the album is coming along?’ 

‘I don’t know what you are talking about’ ¦

ha, classic.

its the only station in LA that plays pop music.

As for Rick Dees, his ratings on KIIS were horrible – that’s why he was replaced with Ryan, who improved situation. Even his competitors – Kevin and Bean from another LA station – talked to him recently and praised his incredible ratings.
And another thing – out of curiosity, I downloaded interviews with Gerard Butler, and I guess you joked again.

I think Kris was being honest in not knowing exactly how far things are in that there are likely a lot of songs that he has worked and will be workig on and then once that is done they have to make decisions as to which songs will go on the album. And therefore it’s difficult to know who much there is left to do because there is the issue of timing so he might now be sure how many more songs he will be working on that have the potential to be on the album.

And his response about what he was doing last night – well he’s been very reluctant until recently to give up information about what he’s working on so he might have just been trying to sidestep the question.

Q3
September 25, 2009 at 2:03 pm
I think, when it does down to it, Kris was not very prepared for that interview. It’s just like Jive has thrown him out there with no prep ‘” and Kris really need help with how to position himself.

And to waste an interview with Ryan on the day his song goes on sale was just sad to see. I haven’t seen anything about what kind of team Jive/19R has put together for Kris, but they should fire whoever is working PR.

THIS. Thank you, Q3.

Maybe Kris prefered doing this to having to do another interview…

ClarkDennis: Idol winner @krisallen4real is in the green room playing Rock Band! He’ll be on next with @ryanseacrest!

Personally, I’m going with the “7 a.m. is too damn early to try and talk intelligently about stuff” theory. I know I personally just grunt at people when I have my one early morning shift at work — complete sentences don’t come until a few hours (and a few cups of caffeine) later…

As of 11:15 L.A. time, LLWD is at #35 on the overall ITunes chart and #17 on the ITunes Pop chart

girlygirl, normally I’d agree about 7 am being too early to talk…but it’s his debut single on a major syndicated radio show. If it was me, I’d have been up all night anyway.

That’s the kind of answers that you could expect come from Adam. HA

I think I actually borrowed #2 from Adam.

I see a few Kris fans tweeting ryan seacreat complaining abt the interview. I don’t think that is necessary. He just did his job.for instance

RockinAllenFan: @RyanSeacrest Not pleased with you at all. You basically interrogated Kris abut his Single. Good job on NOT promoting Kris in the right way.
17 minutes ago from web

MissouriGalDeb: @RyanSeacrest your interview with @krisAllen4real was awful kris is funny and quick wit and you attacked him don’t you both work for 19E
27 minutes ago from web

ryan is just a tool and tends to be rude/inapprorpriate/obnoxious in general.

You don’t like him. I get it. But it’s your opinion, not a fact. He was respectful with Kris, he asked him legitimate questions, he gave him a chance to promote his music on the most popular radio show in LA – it’s not his fault Kris was sleepy.

I see a few Kris fans tweeting ryan seacreat complaining abt the interview. I don’t think that is necessary. He just did his job.for instance

I swear Idol has the most ‘dramatic’ fans.

Ryan Seacrest’s most recent tweet – and if only this had been on the air it would have been a good LOL moment

Today Kris allen told me his wife has to drop him off and pick him up at work now because they only have one car in LA
9 minutes ago from UberTwitter

I cannot believe these tweeters attacking Seacrest. Ryan tried to draw Kris out but Kris couldn’t cut it. The questions were not that difficult and he blew a terrific opportunity to get people other than his diehard fans excited about his album. I am not crazy about Ryan but this was a fail for Kris and his PR team for not being better prepared.

I wish Kris would of learned from Adam, how to promote himself more. He neeeds to be a salesman, and generate excitement. I can’t remember and I don’t know just doesn’t cut it.

Kris I love you but you’ve got to sell it baby.

Ryan for his part didn’t help the situation. It’s a cover and how did you change it- what a goof. Then the Paula/Ellen questions how lame.

its the only station in LA that plays pop music. you will find pop, r&b, lite rap, and some rock’ ¦all mainstream songs. while power 106 has hip hop and kroq does rock, kiss plays all the genres. and morning shows are the most popular by nature bc of the morning commute ‘ ¦.before Ryan took over the show from Rick Dees, Kiss was still the number 1 morning show in LA. its not ryan as much as the radio format.

IDK, wand3rful, maybe I’m not familiar with the classification breakdowns, but KIIS sounds very urban to me. Every time I go there, it’s rap or hard hip hop (I have no problem with BEPs-style Hip Hop – love it), but most songs I’ve never heard before. I would say MY-FM is more Pop.

I listen to Mark & Brian (classic rock, KLOS), then rotate between JACK, MY-FM, KOST, KROQ and KIIS during commercials. Valentine’s an idiot on MY-FM, but the music is okay and they play all the Idols. I can’t take Ryan’s callers (or Ryan most of the time) or the music they play, so I rapidly switch off.

maybe kris remembers ryan’s diss’ ¦that he will only rank somewhere above taylor hicks in the terms of successful AI Champs

Does not matter if your interviewer does not like you or has dissed you in the past. You have to put on you A game at all times. Kris never was very good at interviews no matter what type of questions he’s been asked.

Anovich

Ryan Seacrest’s most recent tweet ‘“ and if only this had been on the air it would have been a good LOL moment

Today Kris allen told me his wife has to drop him off and pick him up at work now because they only have one car in LA
9 minutes ago from UberTwitter

Um, what? Doesn’t Jive/19 provide a car to take Kris to his promotional things and to the recording studio? I can see Kris driving himself around on non-work related stuff, but it seems a little weird that Jive/19 would have made Kris get himself to this interview. I’m sure Katy really appreciated getting up so early to take him, huh?

And people shouldn’t be tweeting Ryan to complain. I thought Ryan could have done a better job with the interview, but it’s not worth yelling at him. It’s not his job to promote Kris on the radio — that is a totally separate gig from his role as AI host.

98.7 FM in another L.A. station that plays pop music — although it will play more alternative rock (or pop/rock) and doesn’t play much that would be considered straight “pop”. I could see them playing LLWD…

yeah i agree girlgirl. that’s not something fans should ever do.some people are really crazy fans.

An artist can be extremely exuberant about an album or single during an interview, but if I don’t like the music, I ain’t buying it. My recent Itunes purchases include Skillet, Jay Brannan, NeedtoBreathe and Hawk Nelson and were bought because of the snippets. I don’t even know how these artists look like unless the album covers show their pictures. It’s all about the music.

Personally, I’m going with the ’7 a.m. is too damn early to try and talk intelligently about stuff’  theory. I know I personally just grunt at people when I have my one early morning shift at work ‘” complete sentences don’t come until a few hours (and a few cups of caffeine) later’ ¦

Unfortunately, this is the time of day you have to do most radio interviews! And *sing* your songs *live* and *acoustic*!! It;s drive time, and the radio stations want to be especially entertaining at the moments they get the most listeners — and your label wants this too.

Honestly, they do get used to it. Elliott, for example, is really really really not a morning person. But he now routinely does 8 am interviews after flying from California to the east coast (i.e., 5 am interviews), relaxed and laughing and cracking the interviewers up, then singing gorgeous acoustic versions of songs that sound as if they could *never* be performed well acoustically. If he can learn to do this, so can Kris. (although luckily for Kris, as a major-label artist, he’ll need to do less of it, probably) It’s just part of the job description, really.

Um, what? Doesn’t Jive/19 provide a car to take Kris to his promotional things and to the recording studio? I can see Kris driving himself around on non-work related stuff, but it seems a little weird that Jive/19 would have made Kris get himself to this interview. I’m sure Katy really appreciated getting up so early to take him, huh?

I think the days of having escorts & cars are mostly over. The PR rep may have met him there, especially if they were coming from opposite directions in terms of traffic. Traffic is brutal in LA.

However, I definitely think he could use some interview-coaching. Because even if bad interviews don’t hurt you, good interviews can definitely help you.

I agree. Case in point: I listened to a Lady Gaga interview on my way into work today. At first, she kind of sounded like a moron. But when she started talking about the method behind the madness of her style (helping out friends who are young designers) and what she is planning on doing during her tour with Kanye, she totally sold me. The first thing I did when I got into work was look up tour tickets. It sounded really cool.

She also ended the interview by offering to help with the radio station’s local charity event. She got big props from listeners, and the interviewers literally tripped all over themselves after she hung up stating how awesome they thought she was. So, I think good interviews matter.

Kris actually sounded much more engaged on Monday in New York – and I think he would actually know Ryan better than he did Elvis Duran from Z100 or Scott and Todd from WPLJ. So something about this interview just seems really off.

Ryan tried to draw Kris out but Kris couldn’t cut it.

I disagree on that point. Ryan started off by saying after singing everyone elses songs you must be happy to do you own material. Then he goes into the your 1st single is a cover and you changed it alot? Those questions don’t seem very innocent to me. I wonder if he asked David Cook if his first single was a cover?

I agree. Case in point: I listened to a Lady Gaga interview on my way into work today. At first, she kind of sounded like a moron. But when she started talking the method behind the madness of her style (helping out friends who are designers) and what she is planning on doing during her tour with Kanye, she totally sold me. The first thing I did when I got into work was look up tour tickets. It sounded really cool.

The same thing happened to me with Lady Gaga. I thought she was nuts until I watch 2 of her interviews on YT. Once I understood her approach and what she was trying to accomplish, then a light bulb went on in my head. Even when I watched her on the VMAs, I looked a little deeper into her performance to try and understand what she was trying to convey. Despite the shock factor, I could see her artistry.

I wonder if he asked David Cook if his first single was a cover?

Was it? I didn’t know.

I wonder if he asked David Cook if his first single was a cover?

I don’t think David Cook’s song was a cover, was it?? It was written by someone else, but did they record and release it too?

I wonder if he asked David Cook if his first single was a cover?

Was it? I didn’t know.

It wasn’t.

David didn’t *write* it. But he was the first person to record it, I’m sure.

So … not a cover. Question wouldn’t have made any sense.

Koshka

I know all about L.A. traffic, as I live there. My blood pressure would be a lot lower if I didnt have to deal with L.A. traffic — took me over an hour to go the 23 miles from home to work yesterday…

Still think it’s weird Jive/19 isn’t providing a car. I drive past LAX on my way to work, and I always see a bunch of limos coming out of there going up Sepulveda Blvd — and they all have license plates with the word “music” spelled out in some shape or fom on them, which makes me think they are contracted out to various labels/studios. And Kris and Katy aren’t from L.A. — they’ve lived out here how long? It would be way too easy for them to get lost. Hope they have GPS (and/or a Thomas Guide) in their car!!!

So ‘ ¦ not a cover. Question wouldn’t have made any sense.

Thank you for answer.

And Kris and Katy aren’t from L.A. ‘” they’ve lived out here how long?

Katy was out there the entire show – and who knows that they don’t enjoy the morning together, etc. Kris is so busy and they might just like the extra time together and it might just make them feel “normal” after the craziness of this past year.

As far as I know about recording contracts, any expense is added to the debt to the label that is paid out of the record sales, and this includes travel expenses.
It is not necessarily in Kris interest to overspend if he can avoid it.

Anovich

Maybe. Kris tweeted the other day about how happy he was to be doing something normal like doing dishes. But I really hope they have GPS — I’ve lived in L.A. for years, and I still get lost if I’m not going somewhere I’m familiar with. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve ended up on the wrong freeway late at night because I can’t see the signs clearly in time. One time I tried to take the back streets to avoid traffic and ended up totally lost in Santa Monica. Hopefully Katy has a better sense of direction than I do!

I know all about L.A. traffic, as I live there. My blood pressure would be a lot lower if I didnt have to deal with L.A. traffic ‘” took me over an hour to go the 23 miles from home to work yesterday’ ¦

LOL. That’s one of the complaints I’m seeing about Flashforward. The kid’s mom could never have died in accident on the 405 (or whatever it was) because traffic never gets going more than 5 miles per hour. Cars would have just slowly drifted into each other. And, hello, freakin planes fly on autopilot except when landing and taking off. Jeeze. They’ve had pilots of small jets die in flight and fly for hours. 817 planes down is a little unreasonable. We can suspend disbelief only so far.

Still think it’s weird Jive/19 isn’t providing a car.

Eh. Kris would have to pay for it in the end anyway. Save that money, Kris. Remember those kids from “Different Strokes”? It’s never to soon to be a little frugal.

girlygirl
I know all about L.A. traffic, as I live there. My blood pressure would be a lot lower if I didnt have to deal with L.A. traffic ‘” took me over an hour to go the 23 miles from home to work yesterday’ ¦

Oh boy the traffic is a b*tch isn’t it? I was born and raised in LA & left about 7 years ago to another high traffic metro area (DC). DC has nothing on LA.

I think our idols are small potatoes. Maybe she didn’t drop him at the station, but where ever his “people” are.

ETA: As a side comment.. what married couple only has one car in LA. J/K

The whole cover story was made worse because Kris didn’t acknowledge at first than tried to downplay it ‘B side in Germany’ .

“Cover story” definition: A false story intended to deceive or mislead.

LOL MJ, he said ‘i dont know’  as in ‘  i cant describe it’ ’ ¦.he did continue on to say what it was about ‘life’  etc.

Ummm. . .what song isn’t about “life”?

“And you changed the arrangement. . .”

“No, not really, we loved it, so. . .”

Awwwkward!

Kris tends to respond genuinely instead of with prepared answers. Eventually he’ll learn that prepared answers can be genuine.

Well he certainly has a prepared answer to the Paula/Ellen question — I’ve heard him give the same answer verbatim about ten times already.

LisaE
September 25, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Case in point: I listened to a Lady Gaga interview on my way into work today. At first, she kind of sounded like a moron. But when she started talking about the method behind the madness of her style (helping out friends who are young designers) and what she is planning on doing during her tour with Kanye, she totally sold me. The first thing I did when I got into work was look up tour tickets. It sounded really cool.

What a great post, LisaE. I’m impressed that her interview turned your thinking around so that you were looking up tour tix! I mean, that’s where the money is – someone buys an album once but may go to many shows. Thanks for commenting on this. I’ve never heard any of her interviews, I’ll keep an eye out for them now.

So yes, not so good interviews may not hurt, but clearly good interviews HELP.

Did Clay and Ruben get asked the cover questions? I remember someone memtioning they recorded covers and if flying without wings is what song I think it is then it was not some obscure unknown song but a big hit in Europe.

Maybe it is brought up because of the image Kris is giving off as a sing and songwriter.

Very nice Billboard review of LLWD. Billboard is usually positive but the positivity differs in degrees and IMO there are real compliments to Kris’s performance.

“”American Idol” winner Kris Allen has wisely chosen to scrap his Kara DioGuardi-penned coronation song, “No Boundaries,” in favor of this impressive new single about seizing the day. “We only got 864 hundred seconds in a day/To turn it all around or to throw it all away/Gotta tell ‘em that we love ‘em while we got the chance to say,” he sings. “Live Like We’re Dying” was originally intended for Irish band the Script, but Allen improves on the unreleased version with a nuanced vocal and a nimble, rhythmic delivery. The tongue-twister verses work in spite of themselves, and even when Allen does his best Bob Dylan impression on the bridge, he emerges safely on the other side. It seems Allen is still emboldened by the risks he took on “Idol,” and those who voted for the singer/songwriter in May should be feeling the same after hearing the first track from his Nov. 17 debut.’”Monica Herrera “

Still think it’s weird Jive/19 isn’t providing a car

Didn’t he win a car from Ford?

I see a few Kris fans tweeting ryan seacreat complaining abt the interview. I don’t think that is necessary. He just did his job.for instance

RockinAllenFan: @RyanSeacrest Not pleased with you at all. You basically interrogated Kris abut his Single. Good job on NOT promoting Kris in the right way.
17 minutes ago from web

Yeah, it’s like trying to move a BIG rock, he won’t budge at all, he’s probably LOL @ those twits and coz it’s not his job promoting Kris. Doesn’t he only play songs base on request?

Did Clay and Ruben get asked the cover questions? I remember someone metioning they recorded covers and if flying without wings is what song I think it is then it was not some obscure unknown song nut a big hit in Europe.

Maybe it is brought up because of the image Kris is giving off as a sing and songwriter.

In Season 2, I think everybody was still thinking of Idol as a karaoke contest that was giving very young pop singers their very first big break. So nobody was thinking that it would be weird for them to do covers at all. What would have been weird would have been suggesting that they play instruments on their albums or co-write the songs or the like! … I don’t know that that stuff was even really dreamed of by anybody, inside or outside AI, until at least Season Four, when they had their first rocker, Bo, and rockers are expected to do stuff like that — and expect to. Even in Season Four, didn’t they actually have Carrie doing a cover of a song that had been originally (maybe) recorded by one of the Australian idols or something? I could be hallucinating this particular event, but I believe that something like this happened at some point. … Beginning with increasing the age in Season Four and then looking outside of pop for the performers and allowing instruments and such in the later seasons *plus* having the old karaoke Idol thing just become too ho-hum, the expectations of everybody for these kids have just really changed over the past five years, I thihk. I mean, this year many many people have said that Adam, for example, flat out didn’t deserve the win because he is just a singer, rather than a musician with a wider array of pursuits. In Season Two, nobody would even have understood that comment!

‘Live Like We’re Dying’  was originally intended for Irish band the Script, but Allen improves on the unreleased version with a nuanced vocal and a nimble, rhythmic delivery.

Billboard is, of course, flat-out wrong calling it “unreleased.”

Frankly, I think Kris was thrown off by Ryan asking about the song being a cover. He didn’t EXPECT Ryan to ask him that.
That was the whole issue. And Ryan was ass to have asked him that. He could have asked him for instance, who the writer was and who produced it and even about why he chose the song whether it had something to do with the message. That cover question was not necessary. I didn’t see any good promotional question he asked. Was it the one about what he wrote yesterday? I may have done better than Ryan, and Jim asked better questions than Ryan.
Ryan likes to fuel controversies, he did the sme to Adam when he interviewed them together .

@happygolucky: of course the music is what matters ultimately but if you are presented with an interview by a new and coming artist whom you have never heard from before, wouldn’t a good interview increase the chance of you actually checking out what said artist had to offer?

Frankly, I think Kris was thrown off by Ryan asking about the song being a cover. He didn’t EXPECT Ryan to ask him that.
That was the whole issue. And Ryan was ass to have asked him that. He could have asked him for instance, who the writer was and who produced it. That cover question was not necessary.
Ryan likes to fuel controversies, he did the sme to Adam when he interviewed them together .

I think you’re right that he likes to look into controversies, but I also am about 100 percent sure that that’s what they pay him for.

As a radio host or dj, if you don’t wade into every controversy, then I believe you won’t keep your job for very long. You especially won’t keep it at a huge station. That’s his job description, plain and simple.

If Kris truly didn’t expect the question, then somebody owes it to him to give him an immediate, informative course on media 101. They’re not doing their job if they haven’t done this.

will
September 25, 2009 at 3:16 pm
‘Billboard is, of course, flat-out wrong calling it ‘unreleased.’ 

They should have qualified it with “in the US.” Sloppy journalism.

Will,
does it matter at all? Ughh!

And Ryan was ass to have asked him that. He could have asked him for instance, who the writer was and who produced it. That cover question was not necessary.
Ryan likes to fuel controversies, he did the sme to Adam when he interviewed them together .

I don’t like Ryan when he’s interviewing either and yes he did the same thing to Adam, but Kris should prepared himself, because this is not the first time he’s interviewed by Ryan.
Yikes! I hope Adam prepares and is ready for his promotion weeks.

Good grief, I was expecting much worse by reading all of these comments. I agree with the idea of better training and a double shot of caffiene (although what he really needs is probably some sleep), but I love Kris in interviews. I totally disagree that Kris is bad in interviews.

Most of the comments that people have been suggesting would turn me off from Kris and explains why I am annoyed with the majority of celebrity interviews. I hate shallow, self-promotional ramblings that seems to be the norm and I prefer Kris for being the opposite. I tune out rambling, so I get less information when people talk too much. I remember more of what Kris actually says. As for music, I pretty much judge music independently, and either the music itself excites me on it’s own or it doesn’t.

I happen to love that Kris is natural and down to earth. Kris is relaxing to me and I feel like I am hanging out with an old friend when listening to Kris. I am a too honest type myself and I love Kris’s honesty.

Kris’s explanations made sense to me and felt like I still got a lot out of this interview. I just want to see Kris be trained to be a better presentation of Kris and for Kris to get more sleep, but please don’t change what I love about Kris’s interview style.

vanjess38
September 25, 2009 at 3:23 pm

Will,
does it matter at all? Ughh!

Well, Billboard is a very old, respected journalism operation. So if they want to maintain their credibility, simple accuracy about recorded *music* — their only beat!!! — is pretty much required. If they can’t be bothered to check the facts, then there’s not much reason to give any of their stats or statements much credence. I’m sure they don’t want that.

All I know is this song will do well because it’s great. I just want to know why his PR person is not prepping him for these kinds of questions. Of course, the whole cover thing was going to come up. People do not understand how the music industry works. It would have been a great chance for Kris to put to rest all the BS out there. Last time I checked it was #16 at itunes top pop song list. Yeah Kris!!!

American Idol’  winner Kris Allen has wisely chosen to scrap his Kara DioGuardi-penned coronation song, ‘No Boundaries,’  in favor of this impressive new single about seizing the day

How exactly did he scrap NB in favor of this song? All of the winners release their cheesy, sappy coronation songs, and then they release the first single off of their debut albums a few months later. How is their second song a replacement for their first?

Even with the mistake about The Script’s version being unreleased, that is a terrific review from Billboard

How exactly did he scrap NB in favor of this song? All of the winners release their cheesy, sappy coronation songs, and then they release the first single off of their debut albums a few months later. How is their second song a replacement for their first?

In the sense that writer Monica Herrera is the kind of “reporter” who makes crap up because it sounds good rather than writing, reporting, and fact-checking carefully???

Very annoying, because it is a nice review, yet it opens with this obviously wrong, stupid, meaningless lead and then includes the erroneous information that The Script never released the song. Very annoying.

Very nice Billboard review of LLWD.

That is a pretty good review. Nice to get them from the biggies (as opposed to Random Joe’s Blog – no offense intended towards the random Joes out there)

Well, Billboard is a very old, respected journalism operation. So if they want to maintain their credibility, simple accuracy about recorded *music* ‘” their only beat!!! ‘” is pretty much required.

LOL. If the paper of record, the NYT can survive publishing that Arkansas voter crap, I think Billboard can survive this scandal.

Besides, I think they are talking “unreleased” as in “released to radio”. AFAIK, they never released it to radio anywhere. Certainly not in NA where Mediabase has no record of it being played (as of Tuesday when I checked).

I’m sure there are a few Idol fans that will “set them straight”.

ETA: Even Billboard hears the Bob Dylanesque phrasing. I am vindicated!!!!!!!!!
ETA2: Maybe somebody should let Billboard know that they need a pretty serious disclaimer added to that review.

girlygirl
September 25, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Even with the mistake about The Script’s version being unreleased, that is a terrific review from Billboard

Agreed! And hey, didn’t some of the posters here mention a Bob Dylan vibe? Billboard caught it too. (I didn’t. But I’m not a big Dylan fan.)

ETA: Kirsten, were you one of those posters? Couldn’t remember, but I know there were a few! Congrats on vindication!

I took “unreleased” to refer to the fact that The Script’s original of the song was neither released to radio nor included in the main release of their album. I can see why someone would call a B-side something that was “unreleased”. It’s semantics I guess but I didn’t think Billboard was necessarily in the wrong saying that.

It was actually the scrapping NB for LLWD part that made me raise my eyebrows. It’s like the reviewer mashed up the story about Kris dropping NB from his tour set list with the release of his real lead single. The 2 had nothing to do with each other.

I prefer reviewers to have their facts straight too but even if they slip once in a while that’s got nothing to do with the validity of their musical observations IMO.

I just want to know why his PR person is not prepping him for these kinds of questions.

I find it difficult to believe that the PR person didn’t prep Kris. If Kris comes off poorly on an interview it is not just the PR person’s fault. Beside, didn’t this exact same question come up on Monday? (someone correct me if I am wrong)

Even with the mistake about The Script’s version being unreleased, that is a terrific review from Billboard

I agree….if Kris continues to get some good reviews in some credible magazines and newspapers, it doesn’t matter if he gets a few bad reviews here or there.

LOL. If the paper of record, the NYT can survive publishing that Arkansas voter crap, I think Billboard can survive this scandel.

Did the NYT’s run a correction? If they didn’t, it means they believe that the story was not incorrect. Let me take a peek and see if I can find it. Billboard could run a correction/clarification if the writer/editor is made aware of the error.

Kirsten
September 25, 2009 at 3:37 pm

Very nice Billboard review of LLWD.

That is a pretty good review. Nice to get them from the biggies (as opposed to Random Joe’s Blog ‘“ no offense intended towards the random Joes out there)

Well, Billboard is a very old, respected journalism operation. So if they want to maintain their credibility, simple accuracy about recorded *music* ‘” their only beat!!! ‘” is pretty much required.

LOL. If the paper of record, the NYT can survive publishing that Arkansas voter crap, I think Billboard can survive this scandel.

Well, here’s the thing, Kirsten. I’m a journalist.

And this kind of thing drives me absolutely nuts because, yes, while publications *do* survive making errors, the making of repeated errors on your own danged beat gradually erodes the credibility of all journalism operations.

That may not seem to matter, to most people, but when you’re in the business and care about the business and believe that it’s an important business — because, really, where else do we have even a ghost of a prayer of getting supposedly fact-checked information — it does matter.

If I were Kris and Jive, I would be very excited to quote this review. But if Billboard were to repeatedly make little mis-statements of fact such as the two fairly big ones in this tiny tiny article, wouldn’t that ultimately damage the credibility of their reviews in *everyone’s* eyes over time??

If this woman never checked or reasoned enough to find out that, no, this song is not somehow a replacement of “No Boundaries,” and, no, LLWD is *not* an “unreleased” Script track, then why should I believe that she actually likes Kris’ LLWD or even listened to it? Her level of mistake-making in a one-paragraph article doesn’t tell me that she has a very high regard for truth or facts. So why is her review credible?

That probably sounds like crap to you. But over time that’s how we judge credibility or the lack of it, isn’t it?

IDK, wand3rful, maybe I’m not familiar with the classification breakdowns, but KIIS sounds very urban to me. Every time I go there, it’s rap or hard hip hop (I have no problem with BEPs-style Hip Hop ‘“ love it), but most songs I’ve never heard before. I would say MY-FM is more Pop.

I listen to Mark & Brian (classic rock, KLOS), then rotate between JACK, MY-FM, KOST, KROQ and KIIS during commercials. Valentine’s an idiot on MY-FM, but the music is okay and they play all the Idols. I can’t take Ryan’s callers (or Ryan most of the time) or the music they play, so I rapidly switch off.

That is why I listen to 2 Ventura County radio stations and my #1 is in Santa Barbara. I only turn on JACK-FM or KROQ in L.A. but it has been less and less of those 2 lately. I

@happygolucky: of course the music is what matters ultimately but if you are presented with an interview by a new and coming artist whom you have never heard from before, wouldn’t a good interview increase the chance of you actually checking out what said artist had to offer?

A sucky interview wouldn’t prevent me from buying the album or single either if I like the music. Kanye has been a major douche but I just bought tickets to see Lady Gaga and Kanye here in Sacramento. I don’t care about the interviewing or presenting skills of the artists at all. I just care about the music.

Excuse me, but bwahahaha! As for Rick Dees, his ratings on KIIS were horrible ‘“ that’s why he was replaced with Ryan, who improved situation. Even his competitors ‘“ Kevin and Bean from another LA station ‘“ talked to him recently and praised his incredible ratings.
And another thing ‘“ out of curiosity, I downloaded interviews with Gerard Butler, and I guess you joked again.

huh?? kiss is the only pop radio station. please do list the others. as a la native for x amount of yrs, i would love to learn about my city. kiss has always had good ratings. rick was getting old, and ry had success w. star 98.7, hence them moving him over. but kiss was been a successful morning show way before ry ry.

Beside, didn’t this exact same question come up on Monday? (someone correct me if I am wrong)

If you’re referring to the cover question, it was not broached at all on Monday. I believe this is the first time Kris has addressed it.

I don’t think it matters at all if what she wrote was true or not, she liked the song, simple as that, and that is what people will remember from her article.

I don’t really get this hang-up on the cover thing and I don’t think it is anything to be ashamed of or something that needs to be hidden. It just is what it is. Kris and his team liked the song, they were able to use it, great for them! And it IS a good single for him, it has both a pop feeling and an acoustic feeling. Two in one!

Wooooah.can’t.read this right now:( but I want to know what was kris’s answer to the cover question?!
personally 4 most music I like I don’t listen to interviews with the artists and that DEFINETLY does not impact me buying their music…jmo…

I LOVE LOVE LOVE Jon Foreman!

Did the NYT’s run a correction? If they didn’t, it means they believe that the story was not incorrect

Not to get into that, but there was no research at all done on that article. They just repeated internet rumours which should have been beneath them.

And this kind of thing drives me absolutely nuts because, yes, while publications *do* survive making errors, the making of repeated errors on your own danged beat gradually erodes the credibility of all journalism operations.

Everybody I know says that whenever one reads an article about something we know something about, there is at least one glaring mistake. Sadly, it’s not a rare thing (and television is even worse than print). I remember when I sent an e-mail to a journalist who had made several glaring mistakes in his article he had obviously done no fact checking on, he just said that those kind of mistakes happen when one has a deadline. But it was the basis for his entire article!! No retraction was printed.

So, Billboards imprecise wording does not bother me in the least (I still think they are refering to “released to radio”). Especially in an op-ed piece.

Her level of mistake-making in a one-paragraph article doesn’t tell me that she has a very high regard for truth or facts. So why is her review credible?

Because the interesting thing in a review is the opinion of the song. The rest is just background material. When I read a film review, it’s interesting to know that it was filmed in Vancouver, but I’m not going to discount the review if I happen to know that it was actually filmed in Richmond (a city right next to Vancouver). Sure, the reviewer is wrong on the precise facts, but is the film worth seeing?

ETA: Even Billboard hears the Bob Dylanesque phrasing. I am vindicated!!!!!!!!!
ETA2: Maybe somebody should let Billboard know that they need a pretty serious disclaimer added to that review

LOL

Good grief, I was expecting much worse by reading all of these comments. I agree with the idea of better training and a double shot of caffiene (although what he really needs is probably some sleep), but I love Kris in interviews.

I’m thinking that he was probably just stoned. He and his wife probably toked up in the car on the way over to the station this morning. That’s the only thing I can figure.

This is why I’m saying Ryan is being an ass. All the interviews Kris had on monday never brought up the cover issue. Ryan was just trying to be an ass and he laughed about it too. I don’t blame him!

ETA: As a side comment.. what married couple only has one car in LA. J/K

Unless you live close to the subway or the Metrolink that actually goes where you want to go you need one car per adult person in the L.A. area.

Kris is the second Idol winner to release a cover as the lead single from his freshman album. But the fact that it is a cover isn’t what people are commenting on, it’s that fact that it is a cover with the same arrangement and the same producers as the original recording. That is quite unusual. I am unaware of any other major recording artist who has done this for a lead single for a new record in the past decade.

The other “first single = cover song” is Ruben’s first single, “Flying Without Wings”. It was a cover of the hit song by Westlife, from their self-titled debut album, but it did was a new, different arrangement and different producers.

The only other notable finalist with a first single cover was Clay whose first single was a double A-side with “This Is The Night” and “Bridge Over Troubled Water” (so an original song and a cover).

As long as we are going with the Dylan comparisons, maybe we should look at how Mr. Dylan handled press interviews when he was 24 years old. Here he is “responding” to questions from “Mr. Jones” of Time Magazine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR8YuIGqWi4

And the infamous “I think of myself as a song and dance man” press conference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVbLKj0DSM0&NR=1&feature=fvwp

huh?? kiss is the only pop radio station. please do list the others.

AMP – one of the examples. I heard it’s a very popular station.
Yes, KIIS had a successful morning show, but Rick Dees was losing in ratings badly, that’s why he was replaced. You make it sound like any person could do this show and still be first in the ratings. It’s not true, obviously.
You can dislike Seacrest all you want, but he helped KIIS a lot in war for ratings. Even his haters can’t argue with that.

Kris interview I haven’t seen before..Yay!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ons2x8BnGIs&feature=channel

I find it amazing that so many people are shrugging off glaring errors in a mainstream magazine article just because the overall opinion of the reviewer is positive.

Spin is one thing, but sloppy or non-existent fact checking is an embarrassment. As someone who writes and does PR, the acceptance of this trend (which is more and more prevalent with the immediacy of the internet) is deeply disturbing.

ETA: don’t mean to be cranky. Guess I’m a stick-in-the-mud, but it kinda hurts the profession, as Lucy said earlier.

McD
A lot of these writers don’t have a clue what they’re talking about. It doesn’t really matter though because they liked the new single. “Good comments always feel good” KA

As someone who writes and does PR, the acceptance of this trend (which is more and more prevalent with the immediacy of the internet) is deeply disturbing.

I agree. In addition to the immediacy of the internet, cost-cutting pressures have also reduced the number of copy editors (thereby fueling even more errors getting released).

Not to get into that, but there was no research at all done on that article. They just repeated internet rumours which should have been beneath them

I think they may have pulled some of their facts from the local Arkansas newspaper which interviewed local people about the AT&T stuff. I actually read the Arkansas story and it had quite of few on the record locals talking about it. I don’t recall however, the NYT mentioning the 38 million which was something difficult to get on the record after it was retracted.

So, Billboards imprecise wording does not bother me in the least (I still think they are refering to ‘released to radio’ ). Especially in an op-ed piece.

It doesn’t bother me either. I still think it is a great review. As a former newspaper reporter who would get thrown stories at the last minute, I can understand how errors are made. I also think the Billboard reporter may have gotten some of the misinformation from a 19 press release. It is in 19′s best interest to make the Script song sound as obscure as possible. NOBO, I believe, is a misundertanding by the reporter. She probably heard Kris scrapped it for the tour and got confused.

I personally think if Kris had changed the arrangement of the song, it would have been horrible.
Does anyone remember what he did to ASWTDID on idol, and got whipped for it? Nah! the melody of the song isn’t change-worthy.

Does anyone remember what he did to ASWTDID on idol, and got whipped for it? Nah! the melody of the song isn’t change-worthy.

I remember how he changed She works hard for the money and Heartless and Aint no Sunshine – and he was praised.

It doesn’t bother me either. I still think it is a great review. As a former newspaper reporter who would get thrown stories at the last minute, I can understand how errors are made. I also think the Billboard reporter may have gotten some of the misinformation from a 19 press release.

I understand how errors are made, too!

But, honestly, it’s one thing to make an error when you’re running for the deadline because you *have* to get the report on the five-alarm fire or the last-minute congressional vote into this edition of a print publication whose presses are ready to roll. ….

And quite another to make the errors when you’re writing a *review* — hardly something that *must* be finished now rather than an hour from now, after you’ve checked! — to be posted *online* — where there *is* no press deadline!!

I find it amazing that so many people are shrugging off glaring errors in a mainstream magazine article just because the overall opinion of the reviewer is positive.

I find it amazing that you are saying the reason we are shrugging it off is because the overall opinion of the reviewer is positive. I see no evidence of that.

I happen to think that op-ed pieces are held to a lower standard of fact checking. I also happen to think she is refering to radio releases.

I would also like to present as evidence that I did not dismiss reviews TRASHING my favourite from season 5 simply because they said he got 65 million votes (or however many) or that more people voted for him than voted for the president. Both were patently false claims that were repeated over and over and over and over and over again in the press and in press releases. The vote total quoted was for the total votes (including those for Kat) and people can vote more than once. So, I take the good with the bad.

Let’s not even get started on the certification vs sold debate that the press almost always gets wrong.

halfie
September 25, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I agree. In addition to the immediacy of the internet, cost-cutting pressures have also reduced the number of copy editors (thereby fueling even more errors getting released).

Most folks I know don’t even have copy editors anymore. Checking your own work is very risky. You know, fresh eyes and all are so helpful, especially detached from the authorship/ownership. *sigh* but that’s a whole ‘nuther kettle of fish, eh?

I LOVE LOVE LOVE Jon Foreman!

mj, can we pls start a jon foreman thread here! looks like we got ourselves some fans here!

and all those who want to check out switchfoot and jon foreman in twitter, here r the links

http://twitter.com/switchfoot

http://twitter.com/jonathanforeman

Congratulations to Kris for making it to #30 in iTunes in less than 12 hours! I’m excited to see what the rest of the weekend brings!

Of course, once word gets out about the huge scandal related to whether or not Kris acknowledged that his single was a cover or not, I’m sure everyone will demand their money back, the single will tank, and Kris will be dropped from his label. Or maybe it just depends on what the definition of “is” is. Wasn’t Bill Clinton from Arkansas also? Obviously those Arkansans cannot be trusted.

Kirsten, I am also feeling vindicated about the Dylan vibe, JSYK!

vanjess38: I personally think if Kris had changed the arrangement of the song, it would have been horrible.
Does anyone remember what he did to ASWTDID on idol, and got whipped for it? Nah! the melody of the song isn’t change-worthy.

This song will be a hit. And that is great.

BUT I have said consistently that IMO it is a branding mistake for Jive/19R to release a cover that was essential a copy of an existing recording of a current act as Kris’ lead single for his album. It does not support his image as an artist, actively engaged in the creative process. Instead this positions him as another Idol karaoke singer — it will just make it harder for Kris to establish himself as an artist in his own right.

If Kris was going to do a cover, he should have found another Heartless — a hit song that he could bring a new perspective to.

Frankly, they should have been able to find something for Kris that would be a single that wasn’t released yet. There are a least a dozen people writing for this album, they must have something.

And regarding Billboard, there is no justification for such sloppy reporting — none. Hopefully, they will correct this error. I am certain that “The Script” team and/or fans will get them the right info.

Not to rain on your parade, Kirsten, but there were many many peeps (including me!) who remarked upon the Dylan “vibe” in the bridge of LLWD, so many in fact that MJ got fed up and said “Enough! We get it, he sounds like Dylan, let’s move on!” (or words to that effect).

I’m not calling people out, I’m making a general statement based on what I read. But there are definitely comments that say the accuracy does not matter. IMO, it does.

Now, I also agreed upthread that it was a good review for Kris. I am not dissing him. I am objectively commenting on lack of fact-checking in a major trade publication. Op-ed or not, the standards, to me, are to present information with journalistic integrity. My opinion on that isn’t going to change, regardless of who the article is about.

Just like there are certain bloggers out there (cough*perez*cough) who are irresponsible and print bs without checking the facts just to “be first” to break the news. It is bad form, plain and simple. To dismiss it is encouraging it to continue. I just hate to see that become the norm, that’s all.

And quite another to make the errors when you’re writing a *review* ‘” hardly something that *must* be finished now rather than an hour from now, after you’ve checked! ‘” to be posted *online* ‘” where there *is* no press deadline!!

Perhaps there was a deadline. Who knows? Yes, I agree, reporters shouldn’t make errors. I think what some of us are saying is that the errors do not take away from the reviewer’s opinion that the single is good. She heard the single and she liked it.

So something about this interview just seems really off.

Oh I can clear that up for you real quick…it was Ryan Seacrest. The song is good and will do well, imo. Didn’t he (Ryan) do an interview with Simon after the finale where they both agreed Kris wouldn’t do very well. He couldn’t find anything wrong with the single so he had to go in with the whole “cover” issue in a sneak attack. I was disgusted with him going to the MJ thing and ignoring Kris completely during his interview.
I mentioned this in the other thread re: the single, but I see Ryan as a bully on the playground that has to make himself feel better by bullying others.

Well he certainly has a prepared answer to the Paula/Ellen question ‘” I’ve heard him give the same answer verbatim about ten times already.

Why not answer a question that’s been asked over and over the same way? Shame on Ryan for not coming up with better questions.

‘Cover story’  definition: A false story intended to deceive or mislead.

Yeah, I’ve always seen Kris as a deceiver. I’m thinking that he’s honestly never “seen” this song as a cover. Many don’t. Since the whole issue has been discussed over and over again, it’s now seen as a cover. It’s ultimately a moot point. This is now Kris’s song. No one else has ever made it well known before. (For those who want to be pedantic *tm someone else* about it this, the song has never before been in the top 50 on itunes before. And as far as I know never been played on the radio before.)

As far as what he was writing about last night, Kris probably felt as if he had been hit by a train by someone he *considered* a friend, he may have well had still processing this whole thing.

Overall, I thought Kris handled himself just fine in the interview considering the interviewer.

jammbasich, I guess since others want to make an issue of the cover thing, yeah, his PR peeps need to prep him. For some reason the media wants to make a nice, guileless, easy-going person look bad.

*hops off soap box*

I personally think if Kris had changed the arrangement of the song, it would have been horrible.

I am not so sure… but I am glad he kept the “edgy” guitar.

BUT I have said consistently that IMO it is a branding mistake for Jive/19R to release a cover that was essential a copy of an existing recording of a current act as Kris’ lead single for his album.

Not sure about this either. I mean, it is really important that he gets radio play, so he needs a song that will work for that. Also, it is really important that he doesn’t alienate his current fans that loved his acoustic feel. I think they found both in this song, it’s a win-win situation. Also, maybe he really loves the song?

As for writing his own songs and co-writing, it seems he didn’t really hit it off with the first people he wrote with, that probably wasn’t much into his style, but he seems to feel more positive about Alex Band, that other guy he twittered about duing tour and now the latest two. Kris might be good at writing songs but is he good at writing hits? Isn’t it good decision by the label to go for a safe single?

Instead this positions him as another Idol karaoke singer

I don’t consider is karaoke when the “cover” is better than the original.

Not to rain on your parade, Kirsten, but there were many many peeps (including me!) who remarked upon the Dylan ‘vibe’  in the bridge of LLWD, so many in fact that MJ got fed up and said ‘Enough! We get it, he sounds like Dylan, let’s move on!’ 

LOL. I know. My Dylan post was in response to somebody else posting it first. I just didn’t want to speak for us all when I said that I had been vindicated. But, yes, we were all vindicated!!!!!!11!!ELEVENTY-ONE!!!!

A sucky interview wouldn’t prevent me from buying the album or single either if I like the music. Kanye has been a major douche but I just bought tickets to see Lady Gaga and Kanye here in Sacramento. I don’t care about the interviewing or presenting skills of the artists at all. I just care about the music.

No, and it shouldn’t (in reference to my earlier post: bad interviews won’t hurt you but good interviews can help you). As I acknowledge, the music is ultimately what matters. But in terms of getting to that music I truly believe that good interviews can pave the way for novel interest to a much greater extent than bad interviews can. Say you’re driving to work while listening to a radio interview by a new artist whose music you do not know – you’ve never heard about this person before. However, just as they finish up and get ready to play the new song you’re at your destination and turn off your car – thus you don’t get to hear the song at this point. Are you then saying that the interview would have no bearing on whether or not you’d remember this new artist and check out the material at a later, more convenient time? If so, then fair enough.
For me, however, the interview would have to be memorable and make me interested in said artist’s music, otherwise I’d forget it within a very short time and never bother to check it out. YMMV

Re hiding/omitting/misinforming in regard to the cover situation:

I really don’t see a problem with the first single being a cover. The song is very Kris and I even understand why they didn’t change it up.

However, the problem (as I see it) with not coming out right away and saying that the song is a cover, originally released as a B-side to a single by the Script (yada, yada, yada … great band, happy to be able to record it and all that jazz) is that people who know better are going to point that out. This increases the chance of it becoming a controversial story, which eventually could turn out to be a big embarrassment for Kris and his team.

Same goes for publishing wrong information in a review – someone WILL point it out and thus bring attention to the fact.

My point is that by announcing everything up front, chances are that any criticism will blow over fairly quickly (and never get noticed by anyone outside the bubble) and focus will be on what actually matters, namely the music. However, the larger the controversy, the greater the chance of “outsiders” picking up on it.

Again JMO.

Yes, I agree, reporters shouldn’t make errors. I think what some of us are saying is that the errors do not take away from the reviewer’s opinion that the single is good. She heard the single and she liked it.

Yes. I agree. No mistakes is best, but I won’t dismiss a review because they got some facts wrong. I’m interested in the opinion.

Fact checking in the modern press is abysmal and mistakes are rampant. Mistakes in news stories are much more serious, IMO, because of the real world implications. I’ll save my ire for that.

Geez how many ppl will actually hear this interview??!!! and of those ppl do a lot of them actually care about kris’s answer to one question???!! it’s just a question.bug friggin deal.to ppl that dont like that it’s a cover kris’s answer won’t change their mind-duh. Ppl that don’t give. Shit about it being a cover(raises hand) won’t have their opinion changed either.NOT a big deal…

the fact that people for some reason blame everything on Seacrest.

I don’t blame Seacrest. I always blame Bruce.

Erm……

Someone at Jive needs to light a fire under him or maybe just wake him up. And for God’s sake just admit it’s a cover. No point trying to hedge on that one.

I don’t blame Seacrest. I always blame Bruce.

Who is Bruce?

It’s better than generic and boring questions from most interviewers.

I prefer interviews where I’m going to actually learn something about the subject–not be shocked or titillated by the answers. But, Ryan is in drive time, he’s competing with all those zany morning zoos and what not. He has to go with the flow, I suppose.

WRT the importance of interviews, my take is (stepping outside AI bubble for a moment) if the interview is AMAZINGLY good or ATTROCIOUSLY bad, it could have an impact on how people perceive the artist.

If neither of these things happens, as in Kris’s case – it probably won’t really matter much at all.

“Rock journalism is people who can’t write, interviewing people who can’t talk, for people who can’t read.”
Frank Zappa

Gotta love Frank Zappa. LOL

I think the journalist for Billboard may have meant unreleased radio single. I’m not a music journalist, but I’m sure she must know about the song’s history. I’m not saying it was never played on the radio as many have said they’ve heard it in the UK. Many reported fans of The Script who commented on Kris’ version were happy the song would be getting the recognition it deserved and appreciated Kris’ version.

As far as credbility in journalism, I’m personally more concerned about it in world affairs and politics. Not one to get apoplectic over a Billboard music review, especially if it’s a good one for Kris Allen. : )

Again for those who may not be getting it: The Script is well aware of Kris Allen using this song for his first single. They are getting paid for it. They are getting publicity because of it. People are saying, hey this song is good, I wonder what The Script sounds like, maybe I’ll check them out.

The Script and their team are not going to go on a rampage accusing Billboard of shoddy journalism. They are pleased their name has been mentionedn in Billboard. This is NOT a bad thing for them. It’s very simple to understand.

Okay, perhaps I do get a little apoplectic. ::facepalm::

Who is Bruce?

Only the best director in live television…American Idol’s Emmy Award winning, Bruce Gowers. Nobody does it better, according to the Academy.

I think the reason it matters whether or not Kris is a “good” or “bad” interview subject is that, while it may not hurt him immediately, it will affect his career in the long run.

There is fierce competition when it comes to getting an artist on a talk show, as a subject for TV or print news, or to appear on a show like SNL. The field of artists is crowded and the media and bookers can pick and choose.

I know from experience that in selecting a guest, the ones passed over quickly are the ones who have a rep as being “boring” or unprepared or inarticulate– someone who doesn’t bring anything special to the table isn’t likely to be invited more than once.

Kris is in danger of “aw shucksing” himself into PR oblivion.

If he doesn’t really care about the publicity part of his business, if he isn’t willing to or can’t step up his game, he’ll find himself less in demand. He has a small window to make an impact. Maybe that’s okay with him. If it is, it’s okay with me, too.

AMP ‘“ one of the examples. I heard it’s a very popular station.

AMP is new (good) edition to the area. But it was a rock station for ages, then talk radio. it JUST become AMP this year (now playing top 40 hits).

thank god for ipod adapters, thats all im saying! LOL

btw, somebody mentioned MyFM…yeah, they also changed their format recently to compete w. Kiss’ audience. Including the hiring of Valentine from Kiss. they are now playing more pop/current songs. man, before, it was very AC overdose…nickleback and old Whitney Houston hits.

And unless Kiss stars playing Angie Stone, its isnt a real RB Station. and Kiss’s rap tunes are the same lite, lame songs you find on the iTunes Top 20. Emphasis on “lite”. They aren’t playing John Legend and Nas.

Kiss is just that’ ¦..a Pop station as in Popular, Mainstream Songs. They even play Carrie U and nobody would classify them as “country”. its whatever is out there that sells ….regardless of genre. Which means a bigger, widder audience.

So yes, Ryan (due to his TV success and good following from star 98.7) did help Kiss. But generally, its the only (big) station in LA with the mainstream crappy songs that the MTV crowd loves. (ah , MTV…remember the good ol days of when that word was a compliment? LOL)

prefer interviews where I’m going to actually learn something about the subject’“not be shocked or titillated by the answers. But, Ryan is in drive time, he’s competing with all those zany morning zoos and what not. He has to go with the flow, I suppose.

in his defense, he was more entertaining and less obnoxious prior to Kiss. his afternoon show with Lisa Foxx on 98.7 was a riot. and his charm was what got him the Kiss gig in the first place. now, he’s trying to hard to be “that” guy….ugh, its so fake and OTT, that it makes him look like a tool.

Also– for everyone criticizing Seacrest as an interviewer… I listened to the interview twice to make sure I was giving Kris a fair shake. Seacrest may not be the smoothest interviewer in the world but he was doing his job and it was up to Kris to take whatever was thrown to him and run with it.

Remember the annoying twerp who peppered Adam w questions about writing his own songs? Adam basically turned that interview around. I bring this up not to flame fan wars but to illustrate that a celebrity has to develop the knack of handling the friendly and not-so-friendly questioners– and the with equal panache.
There are more bad interviewers out there than good.
It’s not easy, but it’s a good skill to acquire.

You know, it’s fun to joke around about a crappy interview, but I doubt the poo-bahs at 19E and Jive are laughin’. They are about to spend somewhere north of half a million dollars pushing this kid’s single to radio. If he is unwilling (or unable) to show up at one of the country’s top two FM stations and put a little enthusiasm into promoting his single, they have to wonder whether that will be money well-spent.

This is, for me, the most entertaining Idol post-season ever – and it’s only September. I can’t wait for the numbers to start rolling in.

kris, buddy, do us and yourself a favor, double shot of espresso next time. thanks

That’s what I was saying earlier evenjane. I never heard of them until I heard Kris was doing there cover. I didn’t want to hear there verison of LLWD so I ask someone on her and they put a link up of a couple of other songs they did,and I feel in love with the songs. So I bought one of there albums throw i-tunes. And am even followling them on twitterto see what there up to. I still haven’t heard there verison of the song thou. I think maybe this weekend i’ll go on i-tunes and listen to there verison. I know it was there song first but to me it’s Kris’s now. And I think it fits him so well. I can see how he would have feel in love with it, after he did nearly die.

Great review for “Live Like We’re Dying” from Billboard!! Thanks for passing it along. I hope they will add the review to KAO.

The song was never released to radio anywhere. It has never charted. It’s not even on the U.S. version of their album. The US released EP that includes the song is not even available on iTunes. The Script also apparently do not play it in concert since there are no live versions of the song on YouTube.

I don’t think calling The Script’s version “unreleased” is the modern day equivalent of “Dewey Beats Truman.”

This is, for me, the most entertaining Idol post-season ever ‘“ and it’s only September. I can’t wait for the numbers to start rolling in.

And Adam hasn’t even released anything yet. If this is how much controversy and hoopla we have over Kris, I can only imagine…

(already ducking and hiding )

I figured out the problem with the Billboard review. Monica Herrera didn’t have time to do proper research because her days are so short! To quote her review, “We only got 864 hundred seconds in a day, …”
That’s a pretty short day! LOL!

Regarding the Ryan interview, I think Ryan cover question was OK but the follow-up on changing the arrangement was evil. Roughly here’s what was said (not intended to be a perfect transcript):

Ryan: The single, ‘Live Like We’re Dying’  is this is a cover isn’t it?

Kris: Ummm, no no no, ah, well I mean, a ah The Script did it but it was like a B side in Germany or something.

Ryan: No one’s heard it. (laughter)

Ryan: So you changed the arrangement?

Kris: No, not really. But we loved it so.

Why couldn’t Kris’ PR people have prepped him to say something like “Yes, The Script recorded it but it was not widely released. When I heard it in May, it really expessed how I felt about life — blah, blah, blah.”

And when Ryan asked about changing the arrangement, couldn’t Kris think of anything he did differently in his recording? (Granted that was an evil question from Ryan because he had to know it was the original arrangement. But Kris should have been prepped to handle these questions)

NOTE: I am not criticizing Kris, I think that Jive/19R have screwed him and I am criticizing them. I am glad that so many other Kris fans are happy with what they are doing for him. I am still optimistic that Kris’ album will be good and have some quality original materal. But right now I am really angry and disappointed with Jive/19R. And yes, many of the more experienced MJ commentors warned me about this.

Seacrest IS a bit weird as an interviewer. Remember a few months ago, when interviewing Kris and Adam, Seacrest started bombarding both of the guys about how it was for a straight and a gay to live together. Wouldn’t give up on it until finally Adam said something to the effect: “Hey, I sing too.”

Not to rain on your parade, Kirsten, but there were many many peeps (including me!) who remarked upon the Dylan ‘vibe’  in the bridge of LLWD, so many in fact that MJ got fed up and said ‘Enough! We get it, he sounds like Dylan, let’s move on!’  (or words to that effect).

I didn’t stop the conversation until the mocking started. I believe it was a handful of people who noticed the Dylan vibe. Kirsten was one of the first.

I am of two minds on the interview by Ryan with Kris. One I think Ryan was asking questions basically that any interviewer would ask. The only questionable thing I have is that Ryan ask the questions as if he never heard the single prior or knew if it was a cover or not. Ryan has been in the business long enough and I would think he would “prepare” himself by listening to the song a least once prior (at least a snippet) and had some background info on it. (He does work with some of the same people at 19 so not too hard to get) I got the impression Kris was not too sure what he was aloud to discuss or not. ( I blame his manager ) The part where he did not remember what he was writing about the night before was not pretty but I don’t think he actually forgot, he just was not sure what he could reveal. I think he should have just said I can’t tell you I am not aloud. I think it was more of a issue of being unprepared. I don’t think it hurt him that much. I believe he just came across as a novice. Someone new to the whole music industry experience. Most people I believe will see it that way and overlook it.

And when Ryan asked about changing the arrangement, couldn’t Kris think of anything he did differently in his recording?

That’s the thing – Ryan didn’t heard this song before. He heard Kris’s version when it premiered, with his listeners – and of course he never heard original version. He asked this question because he always knew that Kris is good at changing songs to fit his style. He expected different answer.

I said it and I’ll not stop saying it. Ryan was an ass today. All he did today was intentional.
He could have asked about the writer of the song, the producers and maybe why Kris loved it. People are talking as if Kris has not had a serious interview before. Ryan should go and watch the idolatry interview he did with Sleazak after the show and see how Kris answered questions into depth about his music choices and others.
And that out of line question about what he wrote yesterday. At least ask him about the song in promtion not what he scribbled and is still unfinished.
He is a tool that’s all.

No, and it shouldn’t (in reference to my earlier post: bad interviews won’t hurt you but good interviews can help you). As I acknowledge, the music is ultimately what matters. But in terms of getting to that music I truly believe that good interviews can pave the way for novel interest to a much greater extent than bad interviews can. Say you’re driving to work while listening to a radio interview by a new artist whose music you do not know ‘“ you’ve never heard about this person before. However, just as they finish up and get ready to play the new song you’re at your destination and turn off your car ‘“ thus you don’t get to hear the song at this point. Are you then saying that the interview would have no bearing on whether or not you’d remember this new artist and check out the material at a later, more convenient time? If so, then fair enough.
For me, however, the interview would have to be memorable and make me interested in said artist’s music, otherwise I’d forget it within a very short time and never bother to check it out. YMMV

I don’t listen to interviews and commercials, thank God for XM radio. I also have my Iphone and FM transmitter handy so I can use Pandora once in a while. I’m able to hear snippets of new releases via Itunes. My son and I make it a point to listen to new releases every Friday, something we look forward to and call Download Friday.

If bad interviews and controversies affect you, lob, then don’t buy the single or the album. But they don’t have the same effects on me.

Kirsten, it was in response to my post about Kris giving a Dylan vibe to it. I, too, feel vindicated. I know my Dylan. His son Jakob uses the same vocal inflections, but he can at least carry a tune, unlike his daddy.

My son and I debate music all the time. I was listening to the Kings of Leon CD and there are songs on it that I feel are more hard rock than Top 40. He did agree with me, but still called them mainstream. I countered claiming they really didn’t sound mainstream. He replied back, they’re popular, they’re being played on Top 40 mainstream radio, therefore, they’re mainstream. I merely mention this because “mainstream” seems to carry a bad connotation for people who turn their noses up at mainstream music. Now they’ll be a million people who will respond saying they hate the KoL and they’ve sold out. I live with a music snob and he’s only 16.

Why is it a bad thing when a band, singer, artist can connect with the majority of the population? I’m still wondering how Kings of Leon was able to break the barrier. I still consider some of the music on KoL’s CD as hard rock. My son did say that because they added electronic elements with the guitar it changes the music classification, meaning it no longer is hard rock. I think he’s nitpicking here, but what do I know.

Not being a stellar interviewee will not make or break an artist. Not many artists are stellar interviewees nor are many actors. This one interview will not make or break Kris Allen’s career. He will get better at it just as Carrie Underwood did. I really don’t think it was a bad interview.

Perhaps, Ryan asked Kris what the songs were about, knowing the message of a song was important to Kris. I do think Kris was overly tired and might have worked into the wee hours and I also think Kris is better with the written word and making music than he is with the interview process. But, I’m not buying his interviews, I’m buying his music which speaks for itself, albeit good or bad depending on your musical tastes.

As far as Kris’s music crossing over to Christian radio, it’s possible. I mentioned before that I felt Kris had strong crossover potential. He is a hot commodity and Jive knows it whether or not his interviews knock it out of the park. It all seems a bit OTT in my opinion.

ok so i finally got to my office, caught up on the thread and listened to the interview….and I had to LOL at all the sturm und drang….Ryan was fine, Kris was fine…perfectly unobjectionable interview…Kris needs to up his enthusiasm level a bit, but he gave relatively straightforward answers to relatively straightforward questions…Ryan did nothing wrong in asking if it was a cover — it has been in the news that the song was originally done by the script, kris is a new artist, it is not unusual to ask who wrote a song/where it came from/what was inspiration for it etc….I didn’t think Ryan was trying to “get” Kris — the whole thing sounded perfectly amiable to me….the song was played, mention was made that it was on itunes…did Kris do a hit it out of the park interview that the average listener (as opposed to all of us) will remember and talk about for days? no, but he got publicity for his single and that is the purpose of the interview….

Kris definitely has to put in the effort with the interviews, but so does the interviewer. There are a lot of lazy people who don’t seem interested in coming up with challenging, interesting or even NEW questions — instead they recycle the same old shit. At this point in the game, there is no need to ask Kris or Adam about what they thik about Ellen/Paula, or about how they felt when Kris won/Adam lost. Stick to what is relevant going forward — the single, the album. MAYBE ask about the end of the Idol tour. Ask about how Kris is adjusting to be living in L.A., or about what his schedule is like now that he’s gone for being out on the road to recording and promoting his own stuff. Or about who he is working with and what he’s writing about.

These kind of questions won’t necessarily get great answers out of Kris, but he’d likely be more engaged in an interview that focuses on the present and future, rather than what has happened in the past or on questions that he’s already answered a zillion times. It would also help if the interviewer seemed interested in the conversation, rather than just doing it because he was assigned the task.

Interviews work best when both parties are interested in what is being asked and in the answers. If onyl one party, or neither party, puts in much of an effort, then there’s gonna be a problem.

Haha!! That’s why I’m glad I could rant here! But yeah, still believe Ryan totally sucked as an interviewer this morning. I’ve never been impressed with him, or many dj’s for that matter, as an interviewer. LOL.

I’m just happy with Kris’s solid single and the fact that it seems to have legs at this point. Again one of the *best* a winner has put out there regardless of who first sang this song.

Since when did an American Idol’s cheesy songs become some big state secret that they are not allowed to talk about? Sheesh.

There have been alot of comments regarding how Kris comes off in interviews (including this Ryan interview).

For example: “…don’t think it matters much if Kris comes across as a poor interviewee…most listeners have probably forgotten it by now and only remember the song…”.
or the flip side;
“…Kris needs a PR tutorial…or coaching…”

My take- Kris needs a little coaching – OUTSIDE the AI bubble is EXACTLY what these interviews are for – introduction of Kris to non-AI watchers. He really needs to nail these radio and TV spots so interest goes beyond the single and people jump to Facebook or twitter and become a Kris fan.
Not everyone is off-the-cuff great at interviewing (like some other idols) but it is a skill that can be learned.

I do find it disturbing that Ryan was less a mentor than a shark during the interview. 19E should be using each interview/appearance as a continuation of the key learnings they received via the show.

Come on Kris – take the advice and come up with something interesting to say – you are going to be ALONE at millions of these opportunities and to waste even one is a shame. We love you but we need you to ‘engage’ new listeners so they come to love you too.

He could have asked about the writer of the song, the producers and maybe why Kris loved it.

Well, I can imagine that – Question about writers? How dare he mention that Kris wasn’t the one who wrote this song! Question about producers? Oh, it’s sneaky attack to say people that Kris used same producers as original performers.
I mean, cmon. He basically asked those things. What his album going to be about, how he prepared this album, when it’s going to be ready. All normal questions.

Oooh! And I will say that this morning’s interview, when Ryan asked Kris what he wrote about last night, reminded me a lot of Top 7 week, when Ryan was trying to get Kris to explain why he chose She Works Hard for the Money. Kris was like, well, he liked the story the song told…it was about a woman…but he really couldn’t articulate exactly why he picked that song.

and Ryan broke in with something like …who works hard for the money. Then laughed and thanked Kris for clearing that up for everyone. It was a little awkward, but I don’t think Ryan was being mean to Kris then and I don’t think he was being mean to him today. From all accounts, the two of them like each other and get along just fine.

Since when did an American Idol’s cheesy songs become some big state secret that they are not allowed to talk about? Sheesh.

LOL at this! ITA – I get that Kris wants to be secretive and mysterious and not say much about the album, but with so little time till the album drops, you’d think he’d give a LITTLE at least.

Simply as a point of reference, has Adam talked in anything more than in vague terms about the songs that will be on his album? I have heard him describe them in general terms of style, and of course he’s raved a lot about who he’s working with, but I don’t think I’ve heard/seen him actually talk about what the songs are actually about. as anyone seen anything yet where Adam goes into any kind of real detail about what any of the songs he’s recording are about?

re: the “unreleased song” bit in the review, yes it was unreleased. artists usually only release 3-5 songs from an album. doing a quick search, it appears that the script has released 5 songs from their album so far (the album where LLWD is not included)

music terminology. blah.

As a person who’s major radio listening happens during drive time, the interview is important. Ryan may be an ass, but millions of listeners have chosen to tune in and listen to this ass everyday. He is the constant. What he does, thinks and says is already accepted otherwise he wouldn’t have a job.

The person being interviewed is a guest. The listeners expect to be learn something about the person, their interests and their music. Listeners don’t like it when the interview is awkward and strained.

Even worse, if the DJ/Interviewer thinks that the guest is really bad, they make jokes about it once the interview is over. In Houston, a bad Heath Ledger interview resulted in him never being on again. He was savaged after the interview.

Yes, performance can make up for a bad interview, but why put yourself in a hole.

The DJ has a large fan base. They can sway the listening audience.

Even worse, if the DJ/Interviewer thinks that the guest is really bad, they make jokes about it once the interview is over.

By the way, Ryan praised Kris and his song after the interview. For example, podcast of interview with Randy Jackson is a proof.

Even worse, if the DJ/Interviewer thinks that the guest is really bad, they make jokes about it once the interview is over.

By the way, Ryan praised Kris and his song after the interview. For example, podcast of interview with Randy Jackson is a proof.

BTW, I don’t think Kris’ interview was bad. It was awkward at times but it wasn’t a train wreck.

I said it and I’ll not stop saying it. Ryan was an ass today. All he did today was intentional.
He could have asked about the writer of the song, the producers and maybe why Kris loved it. People are talking as if Kris has not had a serious interview before. Ryan should go and watch the idolatry interview he did with Sleazak after the show and see how Kris answered questions into depth about his music choices and others.

That would not have been a good question for Kris. The song was written by two of The Script bandmembers and two of The Script album producers. No, Kris needs to have a great anwser for why he chose this song as his first single — if it is a fantasy that he chose it. And, for me, “We justed loved it.” doesn’t cut it. PR people/management are supposed to have their clients ready for these kind of questions. And they have had plenty of time to get their act together on this one.

Simply as a point of reference, has Adam talked in anything more than in vague terms about the songs that will be on his album? I have heard him describe them in general terms of style, and of course he’s raved a lot about who he’s working with, but I don’t think I’ve heard/seen him actually talk about what the songs are actually about. as anyone seen anything yet where Adam goes into any kind of real detail about what any of the songs he’s recording are about?

Does anyone doubt that when Adam releases his first single, we will believe that he selected it, he loves it and he had reasons for why he’s excited about it. If Adam says anything about his first single like, “When we heard it we just loved it.” I will throw up.

That said, manager are supposed to help clients with the things they need help with. For Adam that isn’t PR, it’s knowing when to rein it in — Adam wanted to have flaming hair. For Kris, it is clearly PR and self-promotion. This isn’t new for Kris and they should have put together some PR/promo support for him. But since it appears that there is a 19R winners’ cookie-cutter PR program (with minor adjustment), I guess Kris is expected to know how to do an interview — without any prep. Because he doesn’t sound like he’s being properly prepped.

If bad interviews and controversies affect you, lob, then don’t buy the single or the album. But they don’t have the same effects on me.

Apparently, I’m not making myself clear – bad interviews do not affect me but good ones may – and I don’t think I’m the only one who feels that way (I believe there are examples upthread).

As for controversy, it depends on the situation. If I hear about some sort of controversy I’d want to check out the story behind. If it turned out that A was outright lying about B’s contribution (not saying that’s the case here, work with me please), my initial impression of A would be negative and like it or not, an initially negative impression is harder to overcome even if A’s work is actually good (at least I keep hearing something to that effect). However, a lot of people might just hear about the controversy and not check out the facts but instead make up their mind based on rumours and possible preconceived notions and that’s never good.

Anyways, I applaud you for your Friday night ritual of checking out new releases. That is definitely a good way of being introduced to new music without all the bias and hoopla but, personally, I don’t know anyone who does that and therefore cannot begin to guess how many people do that. Admirable nonetheless.

Well, I’m off to bed now – it’s almost midnight here and Kris’s single is currently the no 29 most downloaded single on the I-tunes chart. Congrats.

ETA:

My take- Kris needs a little coaching ‘“ OUTSIDE the AI bubble is EXACTLY what these interviews are for ‘“ introduction of Kris to non-AI watchers. He really needs to nail these radio and TV spots so interest goes beyond the single and people jump to Facebook or twitter and become a Kris fan.

IA

Haven’t read all of the posts, but I think Kris is excellent in interview generally. I loved him on many of the late night talk shows. He was funny, articulate, and natural. I love his speaking voice almost as much as his singing voice. The interviewer directs the interview. If he/she has done their research and really cares about the topic the interview can go well even with a pure speaker. Kris is not a poor speaker. He is immensely likeable and knowledgable about music. If this was not a good interview, I would have to lay the blame on Ryan’s shoulders.

Wasn’t “we just loved it” something David Cook said about his first release, too? I don’t get why that is a bad answer. Makes sense to me.

He also said, not only that they loved it, but also that they thought it would be a good introduction to the rest of the album. By that I assume he meant it was kind of similar to other songs we will hear on the album.

jtoms: re: the ‘unreleased song’  bit in the review, yes it was unreleased. artists usually only release 3-5 songs from an album. doing a quick search, it appears that the script has released 5 songs from their album so far (the album where LLWD is not included)

In the music industry, a song is “released” when it is offered for sale. LLWD was offered for sale, it was released. The best one could say is that is was offered in a “limited release” but since LLWD was actually sold in Germany, UK and Japan — plus the US and Canada as an import, I don’t know how limited that really is.

And LLWD was on some versions of the album, and it was released as a B-side on a single. That is released.

From all accounts, the two of them like each other and get along just fine.

Oh, no you didn’t! Now, you are starting rumors about the kid and Ryan? Wait til that juicy story hits the tabloids.

readon

I also don’t think so. It was normal interview. And Ryan, to be honest, is a big softball. If THIS is too hard for Kris, I don’t even know how he’s going to handle this business (although I think it’s just a fake hysteria, and Kris couldn’t care less himself).

Kris is not the best speaker. I downloaded his interview with Elvis Duran, and stopped listening after five or six minutes. (considering the fact that Elvis laughed at him few days later, I guess he also wasn’t impressed). But I also heard great interviews with Kris – including interviews he did with Ryan, where he was adorable.
But he was off today – and it’s worst timing imaginable.

I don’t see how “We just loved it” is a bad answer. Should he have made something up? Thrown in a few really reallys and super amazings? Is there a word quota he needs to reach in order for it to be a good answer?

so are we officially calling this “ryangate?”……not to be confused with “ryan’sgay”

Thanks hwc for the dylan interviews. the man’s music spoke for itself, no need to sell himself to the media.

Just listening to the song again and I have to say it really does kind of get into your head and stick there. I love the chorus and I love the message. I think that is important to him, that the song says something and I love what this one has to say. I wonder if he is the one playing the guitar in the intro. There is a little bit of Bob Dylan at work there as someone else mentioned. Okay. It is official. I love this song.

Ligeya, I guess it is all in the eyes of the beholder. I didn’t think he blew the interview at all and most importantly the song is really, really good. I hope it does well.

not to be confused with ‘ryan’sgay’ 

Didn’t you hear? Now, there are whispers about Ryan and that kid who won Idol being a little … ahem …. “friendly”. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

I just finally listened to the interview. From everyone’s reaction here, I thought he would be answering in caveman-style grunts or something! Instead, the interview sounded like a couple of acquaintances who haven’t seen each other lately who are catching up with each other, which is what Kris and Ryan essentially are. Kris’ answers sounded fine, and I doubt that the average radio listener is going to analyze every sentence anyway. It accomplished it’s purpose, which was to introduce LA to LLYD, and remind them that Kris will have an album out soon. That’s all that matters!

People are just beating on every little thig Kris says and read too much into it. Aaaaahhhh! If he says “they just loved it”, is there something wrong with that?
God, the guy is just telling it as it is and I think this is Kris’ power that draws people to him. He needs not craft answers, no he needs not.
If he’s doing anything Jive doesn’t like, we would have seen big changes but so far, the only change I see is him getting more comfortable during the interviews.
Maybe that’s Jive’s strategy who knows? Marketing him as raw but talented and it seems to work so far. Not trying too much and just being who he is. Well, I may be wrong.

Wasn’t it like a week ago or something that Jason C. tweeted he was getting PR coaching since he was getting ready to go out on a PR blitz? Maybe it wasnt him but i remember some past idol talking about it recently. Anyway, surely Jive can see that Kris needs some help. This is not the first time Kris has been criticized for an interview or PR (Disney Commercial was first of several).

ShariG

It’s just… I expected different for Kris. I think this song doesn’t show his talent, and it’s not his style. I think producers are still “whatever” about Kris. I hope song going to be a hit, and Kris will be able to do what he really wants with his music.
People bash Ryan for asking about this song being cover – I think they should bash producers for picking obscure, already used song from second-rate band and using it for Kris without any changes. They spend all their money on Adam, and that’s what Kris is getting?

Didn’t you hear? Now, there are whispers about Ryan and that kid who won Idol being a little ‘ ¦ ahem ‘ ¦. ‘friendly’ .

yes, that is the word on the streets ………..(somewhere adam is crying his mascara out )

Q3
September 25, 2009 at 6:06 pm

In the music industry, a song is ‘released’  when it is offered for sale. LLWD was offered for sale, it was released. The best one could say is that is was offered in a ‘limited release’  but since LLWD was actually sold in Germany, UK and Japan ‘” plus the US and Canada as an import, I don’t know how limited that really is.

And LLWD was on some versions of the album, and it was released as a B-side on a single. That is released.

as i understand it, there are two definitions.

1. the event at which an album or single is first offered for sale
2. covering the many different formats music can be released in (i.e. radio), and different forms of pieces (i.e. singles, eps)

in a nutshell: can’t definitively say which the author was referring to.

Ligeya
September 25, 2009 at 6:10 pm

Kris is not the best speaker. I downloaded his interview with Elvis Duran, and stopped listening after five or six minutes. (considering the fact that Elvis laughed at him few days later, I guess he also wasn’t impressed). But I also heard great interviews with Kris ‘“ including interviews he did with Ryan, where he was adorable.
But he was off today ‘“ and it’s worst timing imaginable.

really, what’d elvis say?

also, as usual, this interview has been blown out of proportion and put under the unfavorable magnification of the idolverse. but what’s new, right?

Joe King of the Fray? Oh hell, I’ll give the collab a chance but not a fan of The Fray.

Elizondo who produced Em, Dre and Alanis sounds promising, as does Daughtry.

I listened to the clip after I read the comments. Ryan seemed excited and supportive. He asked the questions everyone else is going to ask. Unfortunately, the fact that this is a “cover” seems to be included in most reviews. Also, the Script’s version is displayed on most websites along with Kris’s. (For the record, I don’t think it’s a big deal.) However, Kris is going to be asked the “cover” question again…probably several times. He needs to come up with an answer. Does he have a PR person?
The same type of questions about his album and what he is currently working on are going to be asked again, also. He doesn’t have to spill national secrets. haha He can just name a few writers and people he’s been working with. He could say he’s really excited about the direction they are going in or he is honored to be working with such amazing writers and musicians. This is the first of many of these types of interviews.

jtoms

really, what’d elvis say?

They had rising teeny star on the show – Justin Bieber, or whatever – and mentioned Kris in some context. He asked “Who’s Kris Allen?”, and as I heard, everybody laughed. I hope it’s fake, because I just can’t make myself to listen this interview.

Ligeya
September 25, 2009 at 6:26 pm

They had rising teeny star on the show ‘“ Justin Bieber, or whatever ‘“ and mentioned Kris in some context. He asked ‘Who’s Kris Allen?’ , and as I heard, everybody laughed. I hope it’s fake, because I just can’t make myself to listen this interview.

yeah i’d have to hear the context in which it was said in, but i’d hardly classify that as laughing at him. it could have been a tongue-in-cheek moment, an exaggeration of not knowing who he was despite him winning idol and elvis just interviewing him, etc.

ok. I just listened to the interview for the first time. I don’t think it was bad at all. But then again, I am not someone who is looking for things to put him down about..

Here’s the interview with Justin Bieber where they brought up Kris:

http://tinyurl.com/yb5akzv

Well, I can imagine that ‘“ Question about writers? How dare he mention that Kris wasn’t the one who wrote this song! Question about producers? Oh, it’s sneaky attack to say people that Kris used same producers as original performers.
I mean, cmon. He basically asked those things. What his album going to be about, how he prepared this album, when it’s going to be ready. All normal questions.

Noooo, I’m sorry those questions would be completely different. When I listened to the interview the way he asked about the song being a cover was a ‘sneaky’ way. Not only that, but he made it sound like a ‘big deal’ that the album is still unnamed. *At least to my ears it did*. I kept meaning to mention this, but kept forgetting.

BTW, I don’t think Kris’ interview was bad. It was awkward at times but it wasn’t a train wreck.

IA with this. However, I don’t think it was awkward because of Kris. He handled himself quite well.

ETA: So there is a podcast with Randy after Kris’s interview this morning? If so I’ll have to listen. It may make me feel a little better…:D

I listened to the clip after I read the comments. Ryan seemed excited and supportive. He asked the questions everyone else is going to ask. Unfortunately, the fact that this is a ‘cover’  seems to be included in most reviews. Also, the Script’s version is displayed on most websites along with Kris’s. (For the record, I don’t think it’s a big deal.) However, Kris is going to be asked the ‘cover’  question again’ ¦probably several times. He needs to come up with an answer. Does he have a PR person?
The same type of questions about his album and what he is currently working on are going to be asked again, also. He doesn’t have to spill national secrets. haha He can just name a few writers and people he’s been working with. He could say he’s really excited about the direction they are going in or he is honored to be working with such amazing writers and musicians. This is the first of many of these types of interviews.

This was my feeling. Ryan isn’t Einstein. He asked the obvious questions and probably many other interviewers will too. I don’t know why Kris seemed a little unprepared for the obvious.

This explanation doesn’t make sense to me, but I thought I would pass it on:

Regarding the Billboard review calling LLWD “unreleased”, I emailed a comment about it to Monica Herrera (the author) and her explanation was that it was only released as a B Side and not on an LP, thus, it is “unreleased”.

So my understanding is that since LLWD was released as “bonus” track some album versions and as a B-side on a single CD — Billboard classifies it as “unreleased”. That make no sense to me since Billboard will chart a B-side lead single from an album and a B-side single that is not on an album. And on Billboard other B-sides are listed with release dates and referred to as “released”.

They had rising teeny star on the show ‘“ Justin Bieber, or whatever ‘“

Helps to understand Kris’s single’s environment, and music today, to know:

Justin Bieber, almost 5 million views on this one video alone

And here he is with Usher who “discovered” him.

Actually this manager (link to Billboard article, Braun is first listing) saw his homemade video on YouTube and went and signed him. (And guess it was with the blessing of some kind of parent who also had to sign. And let him put videos on YouTube.)

No child exploitation here. And the music business is not in trouble.

I was out of town this week driving a car that wasn’t mine. First exposure to Top 40 in a long time. The plan to make sure the radio listening audience continues to flee in droves is working out well from what I heard.

Ryan has always been like that and frankly, people buying the sng don’t care about any interview.

This I agree with but it just wasn’t cool on Ryan’s part. Casual listeners hear that and it plants a seed…of course if the music is great then it’s all a mute point anyway.

Ligeya: People bash Ryan for asking about this song being cover ‘“ I think they should bash producers for picking obscure, already used song from second-rate band and using it for Kris without any changes. They spend all their money on Adam, and that’s what Kris is getting?

I can agree with you about thinking that it was foolish, short-sighted or just plain stupid to have Kris record a song that was already recorded and use the same producers that did the original recording.

But The Script is not a second-rate band. They are very talented and some of the songs they’ve written are quite good.

And Adam isn’t on the same label as Kris, they don’t share a budget, what happens with Adam’s album has nothing to do with Kris’ album and vice versa. We do know that a lot is being spent on Kris’ album. He has A-list collaborators and lots of studio time. He’s also getting amazing PR opportunities that any new recording artist would do almost anything to get.

LOL at this! ITA ‘“ I get that Kris wants to be secretive and mysterious and not say much about the album, but with so little time till the album drops, you’d think he’d give a LITTLE at least.

I disagree that Kris is being secretive and mysterious. I’ve heard this excuse so many times and I think it’s just a cop out. Kris is not comfortable with the title and lacks confidence in himself. It comes through in many of his interviews. He knows they didn’t want him to win and sees all the praise being lavished on Adam and all that has got to be making him feel like he’s destined for failure. He probably doesn’t feel like tooting his own horn and is just going through the motions until it is all over. Even though I do want Adam to be very successful because he deserves it, I do feel great sympathy for Kris being in the position he is in. I don’t think blaming Ryan for that interview is the answer either. Kris needs to take responsibility for the way his life is going right now and take charge of the situation, as shitty as it may be because he does have an opportunity not many people in the world get. He’s got to get more aggressive and promote himself because no one else seems to want to do it and this will be his only chance.

Kris doesn’t need to change. His fans love him the way he is – that is part of his broad appeal. New fans will love him for his music and who he is, not for how he answers particular questions in a ridiculous radio station interview. Kris: DO NOT CHANGE.

I haven’t posted in a while. Have been overwhelmed by the intense analysis of each event.

I love, love Kris’s song. Heard the Dylan-like sound right away but decided I didn’t want to get into the fray of discussion about it. However for those who hear it, I’m with ya.

The song is so catchy and has a great message, and I think it’s gonna do just fine. It makes me happy.

As far as the Ryan interview goes – I listened to it after reading some of the comments here. Others have done the same and had the same reaction – I expected it to be awful, but it wasn’t awful. Both Ryan and Kris could have done better. Regarding the intense analysis, I’m thinking of a quote: “it aint that deep man.”

Kris has been in LA three days and he and Katy have only one car??? Oh no! They are not yet living like LA residents with one car per adult? Wow, how long can it take to get life running smoothly when you arrive at your new home after a year of tumltuous (albiet thrilling) change?

Maybe someone already said this – so sorry if I’m repeating – but if I’m Katy I’m very happy to be driving Kris anywhere – given that’s probably some of the best togther times I can get right now.

One more thing: I love, love, love Jon Foreman.

Kris has been in LA three days and he and Katy have only one car??? Oh no! They are not yet living like LA residents with one car per adult? Wow, how long can it take to get life running smoothly when you arrive at your new home after a year of tumltuous (albiet thrilling) change?

MJ should start a pool on when Kris and Katy buy the second car. My bet is that they won’t last 2 months with one car — so I say 11/24/09. I hope it’s a Ford.

But The Script is not a second-rate band. They are very talented and some of the songs they’ve written are quite good.

I agree. The Script is well known in the UK and they’re not second rate at all.

Theyhave LLWD tweening on twitter. It just started just now.

OK. Just got home from work, went right to iTunes and bought me some Kris Allen. Go bb!! Good interview or not, sloppy journalism or not, I like the darn song.

There seems to be an assumption by some of those that find Kris to be boring/bad at interviews that everyone else thinks Kris is boring/bad. Kris’s career is in trouble because he is boring…but what if Kris is actually appealing to some people with his aw shucks down to earth, straight to the point demeaner. I grasp the fact that not everyone loves Kris’s interview style as much as I do, but every interview style is not going to appeal to everyone.

There is something about Kris doing interviews that really cuts through all of the blah blah blah B.S blah that I constantly hear, it is like wow, Kris comes across a real person. I feel like I am just hanging out with an old buddy. Hard to explain, but Kris grabs my attention where as I tune out most interviews. Kris is doing something right if I connect to him.

I remember the first AI interview with him at top 36 and was like OMG, Kris is actually answering the questions and is not sprewing out some pc package crap. I also loved that Kris interacted with Jesse. I prefer a more laid back, mellow, conversational interview style and Kris has that interview style.

Q3

MJ should start a pool on when Kris and Katy buy the second car. My bet is that they won’t last 2 months with one car ‘” so I say 11/24/09. I hope it’s a Ford.

Funny. Be careful what you wish for…massive analysis would ensue…including a debate about whether Ford would be the best career move for Kris…

#livelikeweredying is a trending topic at #2 spot. hope it translates to sales.

Yeah that why I love Kris his not trying to be who he isn’t. I do think he needs a PR person to help him. Am just afraid then he’ll chance and be a different person. His someone that kind of sneaks up on you. When he first came on idol I didn’t really notice him to me I was a big Danny fan. But I don’t even remember when I really notice him exactly. Probably around the time he sang ANSS. But totally when he sang FS. He makes me laugh and I don’t want that to change.

But The Script is not a second-rate band. They are very talented and some of the songs they’ve written are quite good.

I agree. The Script is well known in the UK and they’re not second rate at all.

I agree (again) I think anyone who scores a tour with both Sir Paul and U2 ( and David Cook of course) is not second rate.

I can’t get iTunes to function properly on my computer but I am wondering what effect ( if any) Kris’ release is having on Script music.

And in a somewhat related note I just posted the link for an overlapped production of both versions on today’s other Kris thread. They are identical.

#LiveLikeWereDying is currently the #2 trend on twitter!

MJ should start a pool on when Kris and Katy buy the second car. My bet is that they won’t last 2 months with one car ‘” so I say 11/24/09. I hope it’s a Ford.

I seriously don’t see them lasting more than 6 weeks. I’ll toss in a $20 for 11/10/09. Haven’t you heard?

“Walkin’ in L.A., Walkin’ in L.A., nobody walks in L.A.”

Q3

MJ should start a pool on when Kris and Katy buy the second car. My bet is that they won’t last 2 months with one car ‘” so I say 11/24/09. I hope it’s a Ford.

Well supposedly Kris gave Katy the Ford Fusion, right? So I was thinking that if they are worried about money, they could sell that and just buy 2 cheaper cars…

Seriously, they do need two cars…especially if Katy is serious about pursuing an acting career. She’s going to be going to classes and trying to get an agent, auditions — she won’t have time to drive Kris around once that stuff starts happening for her.

I’ll say they last 2 weeks…so that would be 10/9/09

richie10, that is not how i read Kris At All! I also think Kris handled the interview just fine, but with no help from Ryan.

I don’t necessarily blame Ryan either, that’s just how he is…*shrugs*. If I feel sorry for anyone, tbh, it’s Ryan. I called Ryan a bully earlier on, bullies tend to not be happy with themselves. Career success aside.

ETA: One car Allen family is not a bad thing, imo. Hubby and I survive with on and we have two kids! Gasp!

Richie10

Totally disagree with you. Kris does not lack confidence in himself. If he did, there’s no way he ever would have won Idol — he got very little support from the judges or the producers during the run of that show. And he has said he’s very happy with the songs they have for the album. You appear to be mistaking laid back for lacking confidence.

This is a very cute tweet:

AnOldRockerDude: want to know how many seconds in a day? listen to @krisallen4real #livelikeweredying and find out- you’ll find out the song is great too

As long as Kris doesn’t come across as an entitled douche (see Constantine), I think he’ll be okay even if he is a little boring. Kris is that cute underdog guy. If the interviews don’t go well, he should do tons of photo shoots in tabloid mags because Kris is cute. Not putting his pic on that single was pretty stupid.

So much analysis of a Ryan Seacrest interview seems almost comical to me. Ryan’s job is silly celebrity interviews that you forget immediately after he does them.

girlygirl, on the issue of 19 calling a car for Kris – Why couldn’t Kris just call his own if Katy had to play chauffeur? Why should 19 have to call for him? If 19 did call for him, the chargeback would have been more than the cost of the ride.

hwcThank you, thank you, thank you for you links to the Dylan interviews. I’ve seen them before and I’m glad you’ve pointed others to see how unlike Kris is to Dylan. In my opinion, he is unlike Dylan in any shape or form.

hwc, I also loved your post pointing out that Kris needs to step up to the plate on his enthusiasm when being part of the Sony family.

And for my own two cents, I think Ryan was doing his job by asking about the cover. It’s a question that everyone has been talking about and everyone wants to know. Ryan would be foolish not to bring it up. Kris should have known that was coming.

hums to self: Johnny’s in the basement, mixin’ up the medicine, I’m on the pavement, thinkin’ bout the government. Man in the trench coat…

There are a lot of lazy people who don’t seem interested in coming up with challenging, interesting or even NEW questions

This is the American Idol we are talking about. The winner of a cheezy reality TV singing contest! Nobody is going to ask challenging, interesting, or even new questions. It’s like interviewing the winner of the Miss USA pagent. Don’t expect too much in-depth discussion of world hunger!

Randy Jackson just said on Seacrest Radio that, “Kris’ New Single has a lil Barenaked Ladies in it. His genre is like poppurri.” Yes Sir!!!2 minutes ago from mobile web

It seems Allen is still emboldened by the risks he took on ‘Idol,’  and those who voted for the singer/songwriter in May should be feeling the same after hearing the first track from his Nov. 17 debut

For some reason it bothers me when Kris is referred to as “singer/songwriter”…I know that is the vibe he is supposedly going for, but as of yet, I don’t think he has really earned the “songwriter” title any more than say Adam or Sarver for that matter. Just my opinion.

hwc
September 25, 2009 at 7:55 pm
There are a lot of lazy people who don’t seem interested in coming up with challenging, interesting or even NEW questions

This is the American Idol we are talking about. The winner of a cheezy reality TV singing contest! Nobody is going to ask challenging, interesting, or even new questions. It’s like interviewing the winner of the Miss USA pagent. Don’t expect too much in-depth discussion of world hunger!

Agreed (yet again). And if the interviewer is interesting and/or is capable of leading the interview, an interivew can become enlightening or entertaining even with the same old routine start.

Well I remember last year people criticizing Archie’s interviews saying he came across as autistic or mentally challenged. So Kris being criticized for being boring or lacking confidence actually ain’t that bad.

not comfortable with the title and lacks confidence in himself. It comes through in many of his interviews. He knows they didn’t want him to win and sees all the praise being lavished on Adam and all that has got to be making him feel like he’s destined for failure. He probably doesn’t feel like tooting his own horn and is just going through the motions until it is all over.

So what you are saying is that the weight of that American Idol crown weighs heavy on his head?

I agree. I’ve felt that way all along. The worst outcome for the poor kid was winning. It put all the pressure — of being the superstar, of carrying the PR load, of headlining the tour, of expectations — on his head. Pressure that he was not and is not ready to handle.

Randy Jackson just said on Seacrest Radio that, ‘Kris’ New Single has a lil Barenaked Ladies in it. His genre is like poppurri.’  Yes Sir!!!2 minutes ago from mobile web

Was it Randy that typed poppurri instead of potpourri?

I listened to the interview. Kris was fine if not fascinating. Have you ever heard Carrie or Taylor being interviewed? One’s robotic and one’s weird. But Kris def doesn’t have the big personality of Adam or Danny.

On the other hand, his music will sell him not his persona. The only deal breaker seems to be coming across as a douche which Kris isn’t.

I agree. I’ve felt that way all along. The worst outcome for the poor kid was winning. It put all the pressure ‘” of being the superstar, of carrying the PR load, of headlining the tour, of expectations ‘” on his head. Pressure that he was not and is not ready to handle.

I have said this for weeks and not as a bitter Adam fan. Fact is, Kris would have been the rising breakout star without all the pressure. I will always beleive he would have done better as a runner up whether it was to Danny or Adam as the winner. It fits his personality better. Look at Allison. She is having a blast and seems to have NO pressure.

Well I remember last year people criticizing Archie’s interviews saying he came across as autistic or mentally challenged. So Kris being criticized for being boring or lacking confidence actually ain’t that bad.

We are just trying to be nice and not get into the short bus jokes.

jpfan
September 25, 2009 at 8:03 pm

Well I remember last year people criticizing Archie’s interviews saying he came across as autistic or mentally challenged. So Kris being criticized for being boring or lacking confidence actually ain’t that bad.

Yeah, but when he started talking about music he positively LIT UP. At least Archie was a happy and enthusiastic ‘tard.

I listened to the interview. Kris was fine if not fascinating. Have you ever heard Carrie or Taylor being interviewed? One’s robotic and one’s weird. But Kris def doesn’t have the big personality of Adam or Danny.

Daughty is nothing to write home about either … understatement understatement. I’ve heard him make Carrie and Taylor look great, actually. Hasn’t hurt his sales at all.

And when Ryan asked about changing the arrangement, couldn’t Kris think of anything he did differently in his recording? (Granted that was an evil question from Ryan because he had to know it was the original arrangement. But Kris should have been prepped to handle these questions)

He wasn’t being evil IMO. I really doubt that Ryan has listened to the original Script track. Granted I don’t live in L.A. and haven’t heard much of his radio show, but where is this idea that Ryan is out to make his guests look bad coming from? He actually has a vested interest in making Kris look good, since Kris is The American Idol and to ridicule him would be to tarnish the reputation of the franchise that’s making Ryan a gazillionaire.

I’s say Kris and Daughtry are about even in their interviewing skills. Although Daughtry probably comes across as arrogant while Kris is clearly a nice guy. And Carrie being boring hasn’t hurt her much either.

Archie is much smarter than all the folks who thought he was “slow.” Bottom line: I don’t think interviewing skills will make or break them.

Although I’m kinda sorry Danny didn’t win. He’d really keep the Idol PR folks on their toes.

jpfan
September 25, 2009 at 8:29 pm

I’s say Kris and Daughtry are about even in their interviewing skills. Although Daughtry probably comes across as arrogant while Kris is clearly a nice guy. And Carrie being boring hasn’t hurt her much either.

Don’t know about Daughtry (didn’t really follow him); but with Carrie – I’m sure being a hot single blond helped her a LOOOOOT.

Although I’m kinda sorry Danny didn’t win. He’d really keep the Idol PR folks on their toes.

That’s the understatement of the day!

HI !!!! Just gob back.catching up on three.I’m debating whether to fake sick on monday I’m case dam’s single leaks….hmmmm….my mom’s a doctor though:/,,,. Trying to buy llwd but iTunes won’t open;(( tears up)

re: the ‘unreleased song’  bit in the review, yes it was unreleased. artists usually only release 3-5 songs from an album. doing a quick search, it appears that the script has released 5 songs from their album so far (the album where LLWD is not included)

So any song that’s on an album but not released as a single is correctly labeled “unreleased”? I didn’t know that.

ETA: Q3 I just read you 6:44 pm post, addressing this issue. That explanation by the reviewer seems very odd indeed.

I have said this for weeks and not as a bitter Adam fan. Fact is, Kris would have been the rising breakout star without all the pressure. I will always beleive he would have done better as a runner up whether it was to Danny or Adam as the winner. It fits his personality better. Look at Allison. She is having a blast and seems to have NO pressure.

I disagree, Kris is being Kris–no matter how he placed on Idol. The win did not change who he is as a person. It just gave him an extremely busy schedule. Nothing really seems to bother Kris, and Kris has handled the win extremely well. Personally, I would have crashed and burned. Kris is just going with the flow, and while really tired, I am sure Kris is enjoying the chance to live his dreams. I think he is better off having won (a gut feeling).

The perception of how a winner is supposed to act is the difference between winner and runner-up, and frankly I don’t get it. Supposely, the winner is supposed to be the center of attention, do most of the talking, and act like a winnner by being cocky. I don’t agree with any of these winner perceptions and I really like having a laid-back, share the win with the rest of the finalists spirit, who comes across as a real person. Kris is my first favorite to win, and while I don’t think it matters in the long run, I think Kris was helped by winning.

Kris has a catchy single and his single is rising on the charts. I think this interview served it’s basic purpose of promotion. I look forward to more Kris interviews in the future.

So any song that’s on an album but not released as a single is correctly labeled ‘unreleased’ ? I didn’t know that.

I don’t think that is true. I think the woman at Billboard is trying to justify her post. Not all the Beatles songs were released as singles but if you hear someone sing a song from any of their albums you think “oh, someone’s covering the Beatles”. I think the majority of media folks who are calling it a cover are correct. ( especially when its really an exact duplicate of the original)

(The Billboard writer is paying a game of semantics. I also find her phrasing “intended for the Scripts” to be odd. Yes, when the song is written and recorded by the group I think it is safe to say they intended to have it).

Although I’m kinda sorry Danny didn’t win. He’d really keep the Idol PR folks on their toes.

lol. But that would be the only reason for Danny to win.

For some reason it bothers me when Kris is referred to as ‘singer/songwriter’ ’ ¦I know that is the vibe he is supposedly going for, but as of yet, I don’t think he has really earned the ‘songwriter’  title any more than say Adam or Sarver for that matter. Just my opinion.

Sarver and Adam and Scott and probably others all wrote songs pre-idol, yet Kris is the one that gets called a singer/songwriter. Maybe this is used as an adjective to describe his vibe.

So any song that’s on an album but not released as a single is correctly labeled ‘unreleased’ ? I didn’t know that.

It could be considered unreleased as not released to the radio as a single. I think these terms mean something entirely different to people currently involved in the music industry versus music fans. I think we are overanalyzing this demo/cover/single/unreleased material to death. I don’t think the reviewer made any true errors in her review because these are terms that apparently people don’t agree on entirely.

Also I don’t think she said anything truly uncorrect when she said NoBo was switched out for LLWD. I don’t think the reviewer was thinking about the tour, but was stating that LLWD was better NoBo and nothing really more to it than that.

Also I noticed that Jive was stating that LLWD was the lead single in something I read, but I thinking that wasn’t technically NoBo the lead single if NoBo is on Kris’s album. I was thinking about LLWD being switched out for NoBo as the lead single for the album when I read that and the reviewer could have been thinking along those terms as well.

Well since Kris wrote all the songs on BNS, technically he could be called a singer/songwriter. But I think they refer to him like that in the same way they like to refer to him as an acoustic rocker, even though only a couple of his performances on the show or on tour were really acoustic. It’s an easy label to give Kris. It’s still TBD whether that label will be accurate description of what he does as a solo artist

Kris is a laid back person and that is part of his charm to me.

As I said, I have a feeling it’s a strategy Jive is using. The aw-shucks, raw and talented kid who is also handsome with a charming personality.
Go ask Lyndsey Parker and Jambajim.
It is a strategy and it’s working for them. ALL this rant about cover as first single, interview,and all does not make any sense to me. The aim is to put out something to catch some audience outside idol bubble and so far it’s working. People have been flailing on twitter since 11pm last night. Is it not what we all want ? For Kris’ name to be out there till the real album drops?
Whatever! Off to jam once more to LLWD!
I DON’T AGREE WITH THE PERSON WHO SAID THE SONG DOESN’T FIT KRIS’ STYLE. Kris didn’t show one style on idol and tour. Randy even deacribed him today as a potpourri of musical styles, and I totally agree with him.

#LiveLikeWereDying made it to #1 on twitter trends

kris needs to work on his “presence”, not confidence IMO. he’s seems pretty sure of himself and his talent. he’s just not the most dynamic personality that comands attention…which could be an issue during the PR campaign. (as some have pointed out) . i enjoy laid back personalities, with a bit of snark thrown in. however, i do get the point that for his first album, in order to build buzz outside the AI bubble, he’ll have to step up his game. no harm, no foul folks. everyone has a valid point……but yeah, seacrest still sucks LOL

Thank you hwc for that link on Dylan interviews. Man, i didnt know he was that horrible to the press people during his time and was able to get away with it. They still seem to respect him despite of his attitude. Maybe, because of the musical GENIUS behind that asshole persona?

In that aspect, I see the difference between him and Kris. Kris, on all the press interviews I’ve seen of him, was always nice, cordial, gives expected statements most of the time. It’s hard to hate Kris because he is soooo nice but after listening to him, I always feel like I didnt learn anything interesting or new at all.

I think he’ll come around when the album drops. Every thing is like in the works now so there’s not so much to talk about. When the album drops ther will be a lot to talk about. At least he has shown in some interviews how good he is when talking about the music.

True, Kris isn’t the most confident person in the world, but geez, the guy said himself that he likes to surprise people. Him being secretive and vague is most likely part of that. It’s not an excuse, it’s who he is. He doesn’t have to change who he is for anybody. Wouldn’t help to be a little more confident, but I prefer natural Kris over confidence.

The aw-shucks, raw and talented kid who is also handsome with a charming personality.
Go ask Lyndsey Parker and Jambajim.

totally. however, in this specific interview with Ryan, he was just distant and a bit “cold”. like MJ said, maybe he was tired? who knows.

and LLWD is Kris style…soft rockish with an urban flare. its a bit more upbeat, commercial than people would have assumed his first single to be….but then again, we all have our own expectations of what he should do. he cant please us all. with only a cpl of months to put together an album (while touring!), i think this is a solid single.

i take it back. not cold, just not as enthused as he has been with Jimbo, Lyndsey, Slezak, etc.

Totally disagree with you. Kris does not lack confidence in himself. If he did, there’s no way he ever would have won Idol ‘” he got very little support from the judges or the producers during the run of that show. And he has said he’s very happy with the songs they have for the album. You appear to be mistaking laid back for lacking confidence.

No, I’m not mistaking the two. I know he’s laid back, maybe too much, but his lack of confidence has been shown time and again in the show and in interviews. Also, he won idol without the confidence, among other things for reasons we are not allowed to get into so I’ll leave it at that. I’m not hating on Kris. If anything, I’d like to see him find success in the business because otherwise, what is he going to do?

#LiveLikeWereDying made it to #1 on twitter trends

Really that is cool.

He says it all the time himself that whilst everyone is flipping, jumping up and down and going all out there, he flies under the radar and peep once and say hi, I’m around. Is that not what he said? Maybe a stealth Ninja? Hahahaah. That is Kris as he describes himself. I accept!

It seems people love the message in the song and they are tweeting about it a lot besides the trending thing. I’m glad they get it!

Kris was okay in this interview…who really wants to talk to (let alone look at) Ryan Seacrest that early in the morning anyway? lol

Kris apparently does not consider the song a cover. If you watch this interview (which very few people will actually see) at 0:53 he says:

“It’s not a cover anymore, it’s my stuff.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ons2x8BnGIs&feature=channel

I would take more issue with that response because “my stuff” could be easily misconstrued. Ryan’s question about “the cover issue” raised the point.

Again, fortunately, not many people will see this interview to misinterpret what he meant. But I believe he needs to have solid answers prepared for the questions he will inevitably be asked.

I adore Kris – even if I don’t like this song. I want to see him do well, and his management needs to prepare him better for what he’s going to encounter in the media.

lucky you that you could buy the single. Not yet avalaible on Canadian Itunes… sigh.. hope it will tomorrow!

‘It’s not a cover anymore, it’s my stuff.’ 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ons2×8BnGIs&feature=channel

I would take more issue with that response because ‘my stuff’  could be easily misconstrued. Ryan’s question about ‘the cover issue’  raised the point.

Yes, answers like that could get him into trouble because he didn’t add anything new or original to his take on The Script music. I think this is an issue he needs to address before he is asked again.

Thank you hwc for that link on Dylan interviews. Man, i didnt know he was that horrible to the press people during his time and was able to get away with it. They still seem to respect him despite of his attitude. Maybe, because of the musical GENIUS behind that asshole persona?

It was the press that were the assholes. Dylan pointed out their bias when he said he wouldn’t read Time or Newsweek if he wanted to know the truth as they had no vested interest in publishing it. The sixties were a time of change, and young people would not go along with the ways of the “establishment”.

The point of that interview, however, was to show the difference between Kris and Dylan in regards to how Dylan took over the interview and didn’t let the press walk over him.

‘It’s not a cover anymore, it’s my stuff.’ 

Ouch.

Um how did krislet the press walk all over him??!! I don’t think he did anything wrong.If you read a review of llwd most mention it’s a cover.big friggin deal

Um how did krislet the press walk all over him?

Kris was like a limp biscuit. No enthusiasm. Unprepared and unable to improvise.

but where is this idea that Ryan is out to make his guests look bad coming from? He actually has a vested interest in making Kris look good, since Kris is The American Idol and to ridicule him would be to tarnish the reputation of the franchise that’s making Ryan a gazillionaire.

Are you serious? His franchise did not want Kris to win last year.

Ok who is this Tyler Ward with the acoustic version of LLWD? My son just had me listen to it! Now that is awesome! That is really what I expected Kris to do with the song. I want his version downloaded.

It was great exposure for Kris’s single. I don’t think much music would sell if it was based on personalities. Many artisits out there today are just asshats. When good people come along I take notice, most people do too. Kris has already established that he’s good people.

The music is the selling point, not an artist’s conversational skills. The concern for Kris is appreciated, but at this point I don’t think it’s warranted.

leaundra,
He wasn’t refering to the single. listen to it again. The guy said some few months back, he was refered to as Kris ALLEN of American idol but today, he’s releasing his single which will say just Kris ALLEN.
and kris said yes, now it wouldn’t be covers anymore but his own stuff, meaning he wouldn’t be doing peoples songs but his own.
That is how I understood it. A nd even if he said that, is it not the truth? The script will have nothing to do with it anymore. I heard it has never been aired on radio before and they’ve not even performed it live before. Just stop bothering Kris about this. It is beginning to look more like something I don’t want to talk about.

I want that acoustic version of Kris’s song, too.

I think those of us that want more OOMPH from Kris say that b/c he has been HYSTERICAL in interviews w/ Slezak and Cantiello. But as I said about 9 hours ago, those were VIDEO interviews. I think his personality really shows when you can see the smile, the subtleties that don’t come across nearly as well in audio interviews.

And will it matter? Not now. Maybe later. But he will get lots of shots on TV (remember how good he was w/ Jimmy Fallon), so I think we will see him shine there. It clearly does NOT matter re: the single, but might re: the album or even a Tour afterwards.

alaadam
September 25, 2009 at 9:59 pm

Ok who is this Tyler Ward with the acoustic version of LLWD? My son just had me listen to it! Now that is awesome! That is really what I expected Kris to do with the song. I want his version downloaded.

the problem is that a mellow, folksy version of that song has less of a chance to hit on Top 40 radio, which is what they’re aiming for after all. i’m sure an acoustic version will pop up soon once kris does a show.

i still think tyler’s version falls apart at the chorus. he just butchers it, and i think kris will have the same problem unless he slows it down a bit.

I’m late and I just listened to the interview. And all I have to say is well…that was awkward. By now I’m convinced that Kris will never be particularly good at interviews. And that’s okay. While it’s good to have interviews and promotional SNL type things working for you, it’s an extra. Kris shouldn’t waste time trying to go from weak to decent at interviewing, since it’s only *really good* that makes a difference. It’s good if you have that skill but since Kris doesn’t, he should just focus on the music, and get his PR person to prepare him a few better stock answers. It’s the music that’s the crux of it, not the extras.

and kris said yes, now it wouldn’t be covers anymore but his own stuff, meaning he wouldn’t be doing peoples songs but his own.

Okay, now I am confused because, clearly with his first single, it isn’t his stuff. Surely Kris knows his song is an exact replica of the original. He probably did just need some coffee, but he does need to think in these situations.

I am like the others who don’t think this interview was terrible on either Ryan’s or Kris’ part. Ryan was perfectly within his rights to ask about the cover issue. Kris was perfectly free to answer anyway he saw fit.

The only thing I would point out is that getting a rep as an engaging, witty or intelligent guest usually results in getting you invited back more often. There is nothing that electronic media folks like less than crickets! (Dead air and awkward pauses).

Um how did krislet the press walk all over him??!! I don’t think he did anything wrong.If you read a review of llwd most mention it’s a cover.big friggin deal

Hi luv. Correct me if I’m wrong, luv, but I think what you’re saying is that you didn’t experience Kris’ interview(s) as though he’s being walked all over. Neither do I.

It seems to me that many places – clearly not this thread – but many places – the general consensus about Kris’ interviews adds up to he’s “adorable” and he’s impossible not to like.

“Adorable” and “impossible not to like” plus a really fun song imho adds up to Kris being in a good place right now.

I really think the cover issue is ambiguous. When I was telling my husband about this interview today and mentioned that Ryan asked about the song being a cover, he said, “what?”

My husband sings covers. He never thought this song was a cover. I understand in the purist sense of the term it is…,however, if you were to ask the average American about the song “Live Like We’re Dying”, they may ask about the Tim McGraw song, but be completely unaware of any other song. (No, I’m not talking about hardcore The Script fans).

Question, how many peeps here knew this song by The Script, before researched and linked here last week? Also, if the song wasn’t linked here, how many of you would have said, Oh, that’s a Script song?

I’m not asking how many knew about The Script, I’m asking about the song.

I now consider this song a Kris Allen song, just as I would consider The Dance a Garth Brooks song.

If you’re not okay with what Kris said today, don’t buy the single or album. It’s that simple. It’s really your choice…it’s just music.

But The Script is not a second-rate band. They are very talented and some of the songs they’ve written are quite good.

In this case, it’s even worse. So they take an original song from quite well known and respected band, and made Kris sing it without changing anything. What’s the point? To prove Idol is really only karaoke after all?

Kris was okay in this interview’ ¦who really wants to talk to (let alone look at) Ryan Seacrest that early in the morning anyway? lol

Poor Kris – invited to promote his song on the most popular radio show in America. How cruel and mean.

But The Script is not a second-rate band. They are very talented and some of the songs they’ve written are quite good.

In this case, it’s even worse. So they take an original song from quite well known and respected band, and made Kris sing it without changing anything. What’s the point? To prove Idol is really only karaoke after all?

I’ll take the simple answer. Out of Kris’ finished songs, they felt LLWD was the one most likely to get airplay and sell singles. And they thought that the advantages of having a successful single outweighed the disadvantages (controversy over it being a cover).

vanjess38
September 25, 2009 at 10:18 pm

leaundra,
He wasn’t refering to the single. listen to it again. The guy said some few months back, he was refered to as Kris ALLEN of American idol but today, he’s releasing his single which will say just Kris ALLEN.
and kris said yes, now it wouldn’t be covers anymore but his own stuff, meaning he wouldn’t be doing peoples songs but his own.
That is how I understood it. A nd even if he said that, is it not the truth? The script will have nothing to do with it anymore. I heard it has never been aired on radio before and they’ve not even performed it live before. Just stop bothering Kris about this. It is beginning to look more like something I don’t want to talk about.

I did listen to it several times before I made my first post. I used the phrase “could be” and the word (in bold print) misconstrued to describe the quote. Each individual hears what they hear. I heard Kris talking about hearing his first “Kris Allen” single for the first time. You heard something different. If the media wanted to soundbyte that, it’s right there for the taking and could even include a bit of context.

I adore Kris, but he has to be careful how he says things to the media (ETA: and that is his management’s fault). That quote, had it been widely disseminated, could present a problem. Fortunately, it likely won’t be seen by many people who aren’t searching for Kris on youtube.

Are you serious? His franchise did not want Kris to win last year.

But he DID win, and now he’s holding franchise in his hands. His failure- Idol’s failure.

Out of Kris’ finished songs, they felt LLWD was the one most likely to get airplay and sell singles

Well, I hope it’s not truth, because it means Kris’s original songs are not good enough (at least in opinion of the producers and his recording company).

hwc
September 25, 2009 at 3:58 pm

As long as we are going with the Dylan comparisons, maybe we should look at how Mr. Dylan handled press interviews when he was 24 years old. Here he is ‘responding’  to questions from ‘Mr. Jones’  of Time Magazine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR8YuIGqWi4

And the infamous ‘I think of myself as a song and dance man’  press conference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVbLKj0DSM0&NR=1&feature=fvwp

hwc, those Bob Dylan interviews are priceless. I’ve always loved his music and lyrics but never heard/watched any of his interviews before. He really messes around with the interviewers lol.

YAY!!!! JUST BOUGHT LLWD!!!!! Awesome!!! No homies,but there’s a part thats kinda rappy;)

Man, Kris may not have been at his very best, but this was far from a trainwreck.

I agree with the poster earlier who said that Kris does best with interviews on video. He has such an expressive face, sometimes he even manages to joke with his interviewer without ever saying a word, he just makes a snarky face. I think there were probably a few of those moments in this interview, and we completely missed them since it was radio only, sadly.

So I’ve got a good feeling about the album press tour of talk shows, I think that’s where he’ll really excel.

I think, more than video vs. audio, that Kris does better when the interview is longer and more fluid (as opposed to the rapid-fire approach of talk radio).

hwc
September 25, 2009 at 3:58 pm

As long as we are going with the Dylan comparisons, maybe we should look at how Mr. Dylan handled press interviews when he was 24 years old. Here he is ‘responding’  to questions from ‘Mr. Jones’  of Time Magazine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR8YuIGqWi4

And the infamous ‘I think of myself as a song and dance man’  press conference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVbLKj0DSM0&NR=1&feature=fvwp

hwc!! You’re a treasure trove today. These interviews are fantastic.

If this turkey of a song is the best that Kris’ debut disc has to offer then it will be dying rather quickly. Nobody I’ve played it for has cared for it.

Maybe Kris should have said this in his interview with Ryan…

Kris is comparing L.A. traffic to jelly bellies!!

KrisAllen4real

If LA traffic was a jelly belly it would be buttered popcorn… There’s only four people in the world that don’t mind eating it
41 minutes ago from Echofon

I don’t think it was a disaster, and cover/no cover not a big deal to the average buyer. Kris does better when he can play off of someone (hello, Adam) or when he is on camera to show his facial expressions. He’s usually so funny!

I think it is interesting that if you are at all familiar with the Script, this song sounds like them, and Kris’s voice seems fairly similar to their singer. I think that this is actually where Kris sees himself, as an alt rock/pop sound. It seems a little strange as a first single, unless he’s doing an album more in this vein than a standard pop album.

CRB

You and your friends seem to be in the minority — LLWD is selling well so farand the reviews from both the media and the general public have been heavily positive.

But he DID win, and now he’s holding franchise in his hands. His failure- Idol’s failure.

Umm, no. Idol’s failure is on them and how they (19) choose to promote someone with tons of, imo, talent. How they choose to come up behind him and give him the best opportunity. Also, how they decide whether or not they are going to treat him as a winner. Idol’s failure is not Kris’s failure. But honestly the final ultimate question is, What is failure and what is success? If five yrs. down the road Kris is doing what he loves in life, he, imo is successful.

This is a great single, again imo…. how will they proceed with it?

If Ryan has anything to do with this franchise and their success and it depends on Kris, then perhaps he should have handled the interview differently. JMO. He has more experience in these things than Kris.

P.S. I’m so glad people were saying that Kris interviews like Bob Dylan. Oh wait, they weren’t. LOL!

It’s a bit more than just a cover …. it’s the exact way The Script did it.
This is Kris and The Script overlapped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJzpoql0JWE

The whole season I kept hearing how great Kris was at making a song his own. I am really disappointed in his first song.

cwg509: I don’t think it was a disaster, and cover/no cover not a big deal to the average buyer. Kris does better when he can play off of someone (hello, Adam) or when he is on camera to show his facial expressions. He’s usually so funny!

I think it is interesting that if you are at all familiar with the Script, this song sounds like them, and Kris’s voice seems fairly similar to their singer. I think that this is actually where Kris sees himself, as an alt rock/pop sound. It seems a little strange as a first single, unless he’s doing an album more in this vein than a standard pop album.

A lot of people are familiar with the Script. They were the #8 selling act in the UK last year, their debut album charted in 14 countries #1 in the UK and IRE, their concerts in the UK, IRE, Australian and the US are packed, they opened for Paul McCartney in NY, and for U2 and for David Cook, Danny O’Donoghue and Mark Sheehan write some pretty good songs and are respected producers, and Danny O’Donoghue is a really good vocalist and musician. And they are really good live.

This song sounds like The Script because they wrote it, it was produced by their producers and Kris’ recording is a dead on copy of The Script recording. The fact that it is a “carbon copy” of someone else’s recording may not be a problem to the “average buyer” but it has the potential to be a problem for Kris. And it is a problem for at least one Kris fan — me. I really expected more from Jive/19R and think that Kris deserved much better treatment than this.

Poor Kris ‘“ invited to promote his song on the most popular radio show in America. How cruel and mean.

Ryan has the most popular radio show in America? That’s scary considering that he wouldn’t know how to do a decent interview if his life depended on it.

cookcricket

If Ryan has anything to do with this franchise and their success and it depends on Kris, then perhaps he should have handled the interview differently.

He did this interview (and it’s big for a starting artist – his show is a big promotion), his questions were soft and kind, he tried to talk about his music, about his album, about his lyrics – and Kris gave him awkward and inarticulate answers for every question.
Only one relatively hard question – about the cover, and this song IS cover, i found original song and Kris version is a copy of the original, nothing more – and Kris blew it again. I think Ryan did everything he could for him. He gave him chance to talk about his album. He gave him chance to clear the controversy. It’s not his fault that Kris wasn’t prepared for this interview. He’s not his handler, or manager, or mother.

OMG. I may kill myself by December.

Reminder:

By the way, I’m deleting and editing posts that violate my guidelines.

clearone

Ryan has the most popular radio show in America? That’s scary considering that he wouldn’t know how to do a decent interview if his life depended on it.

I download his interviews, and he’s good, engaging, unpredictable interviewer. Sometimes he annoys me, but he’s good – but even he can’t save every interview. Kris was poorly prepared.

I don’t care if it’s arranged like the Script version. It tells me that a for a fresh song well wriiten, Kris loves it as is and I agree with him; it takes intelligence and humility to do so. And besides, we all know how Kris is able in song arrangment so it’s very not the point of him lacking originality. We’ll see with his other songs on the album how it goes and i’m sure we’ll be pleasantly surprised. Even though i’m not a big fan of NoBo, I tought his take was really great on it!

Well, I hope it’s not truth, because it means Kris’s original songs are not good enough (at least in opinion of the producers and his recording company).

No, it doesn’t mean that at all. There are many excellent, well written, well performed songs that would NOT make good radio singles. The criteria for picking a single is more than just how good he song is, it has to do with how well the song fits into the format, if it’s got a strong hook, if it tests well.

I still buy albums, and I find singles are typically NOT the best songs on any album. Definitely not the most interesting to listen to….

My hubby has said over and over again, that manufacturing artists is just so contrary to the history of rock and roll. He is all about the originality and personality of the artists. (Song writing… blah blah blah).

I however I liked Kris’s song. And I think Adam has originality too.

But I haven’t been following the whole thread, so I’m probably out of line.

Sorry.

It’s a bit more than just a cover ‘ ¦. it’s the exact way The Script did it.
This is Kris and The Script overlapped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJzpoql0JWE

Wow. I’m struck by two things:

A) Kris’ vocal is an exact carbon copy of the Script singer’s vocal, down to even the minutest inflections. That is really something I’ve never heard a singer do before.

B) I don’t think they even recorded a new backing track for Kris, it sounds like they used the Script’s instrumental track with Kris’ vocal stripped in. It will be interesting to see if the album liner notes list the musicians.

I’m really quite dumbfounded by this. I always knew the two versions sounded very much alike, but this takes it to a whole other level.

zzatrms
September 25, 2009 at 11:26 pm

It’s a bit more than just a cover ‘ ¦. it’s the exact way The Script did it.
This is Kris and The Script overlapped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJzpoql0JWE

The whole season I kept hearing how great Kris was at making a song his own. I am really disappointed in his first song.

Wow! That is pure karaoke.

I remember back after season five one of the regulars here at MJs that was an industry insider, whose name escapes me at the moment, said these Idol albums, especially the debuts, were purely having the Idol sing the demo track and laying that vocal into a mildly polished up demo recording. I know that is clearly how Kristie Lee Cook could make an album in two (or was it three?) days of studio time but this debut single by Kris Allen just might be the most egregious example of this practice to date.

He added nothing to that song…zero.

Sometimes he annoys me, but he’s good ‘“ but even he can’t save every interview. Kris was poorly prepared.

He’s good? In your opinion perhaps.

He did this interview (and it’s big for a starting artist ‘“ his show is a big promotion), his questions were soft and kind, he tried to talk about his music, about his album, about his lyrics ‘“ and Kris gave him awkward and inarticulate answers for every question.

I just don’t agree with you about Ryan. Sorry. Kris did fine with this interview in spite of Ryan. He ended on a great note re: Ellen and Paula. The only thing Ryan asked about the single was the cover “issue” and that’s all. I thought this interview was to promote the single, which was not done. Oh, it was played, so I’m happy there. Of course, JMO.

mj

There are many excellent, well written, well performed songs that would NOT make good radio singles.

And if it’s true, all this good, well written and performed songs going to be overshadowed by the fact that he (his recording company) used somebody else’s song to sell his album. Is it fair? I think he was screwed by his company.

Also, after this interview was over, Ryan praised Kris AND the song. Which in the long run, is more important to the success of LLWD and to Kris himself than how Kris did in a 3-minute interview…

Q3

I agree that lots of people know about The Script — however how many mainstream record buyers in the US know much about them? To date, the Script’s success has been overseas — they are very much a cult act in the US right now. While it would have been better not to do (basically) a carbon copy of the song, it’s not like millions of people in the US known The Script’s version of LLWD.

Kris’ long-term success isn’t going to rest on just this single. But the fact that a lot of people like it, irregardless of whether they know the Script’s original version of the song, at least gets his career off to a decent commercial start. If the original songs on his album are good, who is really going to care that his first song was a cover of a relatively obscure (in this country) song?

clearone

He’s good? In your opinion perhaps.

Yes, he is good. In my opinion, and also in opinion of little obscure people like Larry King, Anderson Cooper, Ben Stiller and so on. And his listeners as well.

Ligeya

No, one single is NOT going to sell Kris’ album — it will be the OVERALL STRENGTH of the album that determines how well that sells.

If Kris’ album is ALL or MOSTLY covers, that’s a problem. But if LLWD is the only cover on it, pretty much no one will give a hoot

No, one single is NOT going to sell Kris’ album ‘” it will be the OVERALL STRENGTH of the album that determines how well that sells.

I disagree. It will be LLWD and Kris’ subsequent singles that sell the album, not the other tracks, since they’ll only be heard by people who’ve already bought the album. Now, when it comes to RETAINING fans, the overall strength of the album will play into it. But when it comes to getting NEW fans, the singles are crucial, and it’s very likely that LLWD will be the most successful (and therefore heard by the most people) single of the album.

LLWD’s status as a cover doesn’t really matter though, I agree.

Listened to those switchfoot youtube videos. Altho not exactly my cuppa, I can see it fit Kris’ vibe. Actually the lead singer sounds very like Kris.

girlygirl

I think in current state of the industry, single, especially the first one, is extremely important. People rarely buy albums these days.
Maybe it’s the only weak link on deep, artistic, brilliant album – but most people going to hear this weak link, and ignore the album.

It’s a bit more than just a cover ‘ ¦. it’s the exact way The Script did it.
This is Kris and The Script overlapped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJzpoql0JWE

Holy crap. Is this real? No manips to make them match up?

If Ryan has anything to do with this franchise and their success and it depends on Kris, then perhaps he should have handled the interview differently.

Ryan is not Kris’ keeper. Kris is a big boy now.

It’s a bit more than just a cover ‘ ¦. it’s the exact way The Script did it.
This is Kris and The Script overlapped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJzpoql0JWE

Holy crap. Is this real? No manips to make them match up?

I know, its shocking itsn’t it? We’ve been talking about it on the other Kris thread for a while now.

Q3 also posted an interesting theory there. That Kris’ iTunes sales were moved up to to day because The Script release their new single in the U.S. next week.

Holy crap. Is this real? No manips to make them match up?

Yes, this is real life. I did a side-by-side comparison just to make sure, and it is all too real.

I know, its shocking itsn’t it? We’ve been talking about it on the other Kris thread for a while now.

Q3 also posted an interesting theory there. That Kris’ iTunes sales were moved up to to day because The Script release their new single in the U.S. next week.

Thanks. I’ll go look. Will I have to wade through hundreds of posts?

I know, its shocking itsn’t it? We’ve been talking about it on the other Kris thread for a while now.

You mean there is another Kris thread going on simultaneously? LOL — no wonder MJ is issuing a cry for help.

Is this really that much worse than previous years MJ? Or have you just finally reached your limit?

Kris went on a TV show and sang in front of millions of people, I think he has plenty of confidence.

Part of the reason his fans like him is because he’s quiet, laid back and unassuming. He’s never done well with interviews. There’s nothing new here. Kris was just being Kris today….Ryan was being Ryan.

Kris seems to be very happy with his single and so far it seems to be doing well.

Much ado about nothing.

Thanks. I’ll go look. Will I have to wade through hundreds of posts?

No, most folks have been on this thread. Just a handful have been there. I posted the link in the other thread earlier and didn’t think I should repeat myself here.

B) I don’t think they even recorded a new backing track for Kris, it sounds like they used the Script’s instrumental track with Kris’ vocal stripped in. It will be interesting to see if the album liner notes list the musicians.

I think they just set the kid up with headphones listening to the Script’s version and recorded his vocal singing along. Then, slapped that vocal track on the orginal instrumental track and — voila — that the kid’s first single.

It is rather amazing. I’m no pollyanna. I know how recording a song from another artist’s demo works. In most cases, though, you would expect the artist to at least rerecord the song. This is like moving your couch into a mobile home and saying that you built the house yourself.

I feel sorry for the kid. He seems like a good kid. He’s got some talent, but he needs some time and some mentoring. He’s not prepared to handle his situation and his talents are ill-matched to this kind of approach to an album.

He probably feels like I did when I got on that roller coaster with my teenage daugther that I shouldn’t have gotten on and had to endure five minutes of pure terror until the end of the ride. I had no business being on that ride.

dhunken
September 26, 2009 at 12:02 am

mj
September 25, 2009 at 11:42 pm

OMG. I may kill myself by December.

Umm people’ ¦.I re posted this because I think MJ is trying to tell us something!

Don’t worry I’ve forwarded her IP to the ‘right people’ and help is on the way. Just keep her on the computer for another thirty minutes or so.

MJ, SORRY YOU CAN DELETE IT. I’M ANGRY!

edit: not only am I going to delete it, I’m going to put you in moderation. Sorry, if you can’t hold your temper, I’m going to have to moderate your posts

1) Imo, Kris’s cover is not Karaoke, it ‘s better than the original.

2) This song was not known before the whole issue of Kris’s single came to the for front.

If the intention of Jive/19 was to simply throw something at Kris, once again he amazes. This is a good, solid single. One of this best produced by an AI winner.

My hubby has said over and over again, that manufacturing artists is just so contrary to the history of rock and roll. He is all about the originality and personality of the artists.

Unfortunately, this is not what AI is about…their bottom line is the almighty buck. Again, if Kris is doing what he loves to do in five years, that success to me, I care more about him than AI.

This is Kris and The Script overlapped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJzpoql0JWE

Wow, I just listened to this. It was difficult to distinguish them apart. The lead singer is cuter than Kris too:).

Very nice Billboard review of LLWD. Billboard is usually positive but the positivity differs in degrees and IMO there are real compliments to Kris’s performance.

” American Idol’  winner Kris Allen has wisely chosen to scrap his Kara DioGuardi-penned coronation song, ‘No Boundaries,’  in favor of this impressive new single about seizing the day. ‘We only got 864 hundred seconds in a day/To turn it all around or to throw it all away/Gotta tell ‘em that we love ‘em while we got the chance to say,’  he sings. ‘Live Like We’re Dying’  was originally intended for Irish band the Script, but Allen improves on the unreleased version with a nuanced vocal and a nimble, rhythmic delivery. The tongue-twister verses work in spite of themselves, and even when Allen does his best Bob Dylan impression on the bridge, he emerges safely on the other side. It seems Allen is still emboldened by the risks he took on ‘Idol,’  and those who voted for the singer/songwriter in May should be feeling the same after hearing the first track from his Nov. 17 debut.’”Monica Herrera ‘

Someone should send Monica Herrera the Script-Kris overlapped video and Tyler Ward’s acoustic cover. Then hopefully she will know what improvement/twist and taking risk mean.

Well maybe some of the posters are correct in their theory. Maybe this will bring notoriety to the Scripts-it already has. But, to lay vocals on a track that is note for note, word for word, diflection for diflection is wrong (and claim it is not a cover) whether the general public knows it or not. i am very suprised the media is not pointing this out-maybe that is why Ryan said something this morning. I feel bad for Kris but I think he is just naive to the music industry. Still this plummets credibility to those who care. Also, how can fans say one or the other is better when they are EXACTLY the same!!

Speaking of’ ¦The Script is dropping a new single, Breakeven, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bp13TeFNrw, on Top 40 radio on Sept. 29 (Kris Allen’s, LLWD drops Oct. 13).

Okay, I’ve gone to the other thread…. agree that Q3 has hit on something. And I agree with her– REALLY angry for Kris.

I also agree with hwc– I feel sorry for the kid. Jive basically f****d up.

I also have concluded from listening to Breakeven and the Scripts version of LLYD– that I really like the Script.

1) Imo, Kris’s cover is not Karaoke, it ‘s better than the original.

How can it be better or worse when it’s exactly the same?

cookcricket
September 26, 2009 at 12:24 am
“1) Imo, Kris’s cover is not Karaoke, it ‘s better than the original.”

But nooooo, it is word for word, note for note, inflection for inflection, the EXACT same as the original by The Script. Listen to the attached TY video and you’ll see that they’re IDENTICAL. So much for artistry on behalf of Kris, or believing in Kris’ vision on behalf of his record/management company. If this is the best they can put out for his huge, all-important debut then, well, I’m not sure what to say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJzpoql0JWE

You don’t smell any of that stuff from me. No envy or hatred here. Just bewilderment that the American Idol would be treated this way. And that he would agree to be treated this way.

You’re presuming he has any say in the matter…….

vanjess38

I agree…..it’s mind blowing…I never started off as a Kris fan either..yet he coverted me

1) Imo, Kris’s cover is not Karaoke, it ‘s better than the original.

It’s only better if you like the timbre of Kris’ voice better, which many people might. Otherwise, there’s no difference.

but honestly, what can you ask about it in this situation? Every question is a dangerous one.

How about, “Why did you love this single from the start?” I think this could have taken a fair amount of this interview. “Why do you think this single defines your album?” Some how capitalize on things Kris has already said. Even, “What makes you think this is a good single.” There are three good questions and I’m not even an interviewer.

Oh yeah, and how do you feel about your single coming out on itunes/Amazon today? Did you dream something like this would ever happen to you? What makes a *good* song in your opinion? Music, lyrics, the beat?

What would you say to people about this song?

clearone
September 26, 2009 at 12:35 am
You don’t smell any of that stuff from me. No envy or hatred here. Just bewilderment that the American Idol would be treated this way. And that he would agree to be treated this way.

You’re presuming he has any say in the matter’ ¦’ ¦.

True, clearone. One cannot know what went on behind the scenes.

You’re presuming he has any say in the matter’ ¦’ ¦.

True, clearone. One cannot know what went on behind the scenes.

So AI winners just sit there and take whatever is dished out even if it ruins them in the eyes of some people?

cookcricket

‘Why did you love this single from the start?’ 

Presuming he loves this single, which I’m not so sure about.

‘Why do you think this single defines your album?’ 

Why do you think this single defines his album? Why Ryan supposed to think so? I hope it’s not the case, because this single is a rip-off.

‘What makes you think this is a good single.’ 

It’s generic question. No different from Ryan’s questions.

What would you say to people about this song?

I’m glad Ryan didn’t ask that, because Kris is a honest guy.

Lets see kris says on ryan’s radio show that the script released it on the b side and ryan said but no one heard it.Why are peeps saying things like kris is not saying so.Ryan’s show would be “media” the truth was told buy it or don’t.I just laugh my ass off at what people say.I guess some just post and never it the play button above.Heartless did real well and that was a well known song.I don’t think jive or kris is to worried about it.

I find all of this fussing and indignation very amusing. Live Like We’re Dying seems to be doing fine on the sales chart (especially for a song released on Friday that hasn’t had a lot of airplay yet) and has gotten good reviews.

Yep, it’s a cover. Yep, it’s pretty much the same. So? Jive legally bought the song. Kris sang the song. The radio stations aren’t likely to play the Script version, and it’s not released for sale here in the States.

And honestly, if eight years hasn’t gotten rid of the “karaoke singer” criticism from Idol winners, whether or not LLWD is a cover isn’t really going to change that.

It’s a cute, likeable song sung by a cute and likeable singer. Can Kris do better? Sure, and I hope we get to see that with the album. But the song’ll do its job, which is get Kris’s name, voice, and likely style out onto the radio waves.

As scandals go, this whole deal wouldn’t even make the National Enquirer.

I don’t think there is anything wrong with Kris doing this cover. Kris, IMO, should answer the cover question like this

“My goal is to put out music that I connect with. That is what I am hoping for on this album. I love this Scripts’ song. I wish I had written it myself. It didn’t get any airplay when it was released as a B side, so I hope I can introduce the song to a larger audience. I love the positive message of the song. The rest of the album will all be new material, which I think will fit nicely with the vibe of the Scripts song.”

It’s only better if you like the timbre of Kris’ voice better, which many people might. Otherwise, there’s no difference.

Bingo!!!

No, it doesn’t mean that at all. There are many excellent, well written, well performed songs that would NOT make good radio singles. The criteria for picking a single is more than just how good he song is, it has to do with how well the song fits into the format, if it’s got a strong hook, if it tests well.

I still buy albums, and I find singles are typically NOT the best songs on any album. Definitely not the most interesting to listen to’ ¦.

ITA, mj. I bought the new Muse album. It’s a concept album and I LOVE it. But aside from the first couple of tracks–one is already being used in the promo of V on ABC–I don’t think these would air on the radio. Same with Radiohead: you primarily hear them on college radio (maybe internationally? I don’t know), and that doesn’t detract from the strength of the album. GaGa is very radio friendly, but I find her songs fairly catchy but VERY SHALLOW. I won’t remember them in another year, but I will remember Muse.

I also think about Kelly Clarkson–My December was probably her strongest album, and her darkest, and it did reasonably well, but not in the eyes of her label. This one is much more radio-friendly, and I like it, but I’m not sure *she* does, and I think her next one will be more indie. I think she released one single from that album. She is on #3 from this one.

I rarely download singles. I love U2 but I don’t like what I’ve heard of the album, so I didn’t buy it (tho the tour was great). Same w/ Coldplay, and I have their other albums.

Love the single, love Kris. I’m so happy it’s selling so well and getting such glowing reviews. Thrilled #LiveLikeWereDying trended to #1 tonight, thanks to Slezak & Cantiello getting in on the twitter act!

I’m excited to see what the charts show tomorrow and in the coming days, and can hardly wait for the album to drop.

Ligeya, you asked, I answered and there is apparently nothing else to say since we don’t agree.

Ligeya

Um, how can LLWD be a weak link if it is getting PRAISED? People LIKE IT. Billboard gave it a great review. Slezak, Lyndsey Parker and Jim Cantiello all liked it.

You might not like it the single yourself, but in general, the reviews have been very good. The radio stations that have played it are getting good listener feedback from it. The listener comments on the LLWD Itunes page are very good. Last I looked they gave it 5 stars!

Right now, it looks like LLWD is going to be a hit.

So

suebrody

Groups like Muse and Radiohead – they worked very hard for many years to be where they are now. And they had huge commercial success – Creep was extremely big hit for rock band. Of course, now they don’t need radio play and interviews and strong promotion because they proved everything to everybody (especially Radiohead, my favorite band).

Kris is not even near that level.

Those buying the single are posting review on itunes and they all acknowledge the melody is the samebut they love Kris voice and phrasing on the song.
Nobody is saying Kris changed the song? The Billboard article pretty much summed it all up. I think the flipping out is too much.

girlygirl

I’m okey with not liking the song (and yes, I don’t really like it), but I’m really angry with the situation. I think what they did to Kris is disrespectful. This is pure karaoke. He deserves better and he could do better. Kris was my favorite this season, he’s artistic person, and he has a great vision and his songs on the show were pure, brilliant and unique.
And now he left the show, after victory – and all they can do for him is a karaoke?

alaadam
September 26, 2009 at 12:42 am

So AI winners just sit there and take whatever is dished out even if it ruins them in the eyes of some people?

I am going to ask MJ to briefly recount her philosophy of AI peeps’ first recordings. IIRC, it will address this question – and I think MJ needs to vent – for her own health.

undercooked
September 26, 2009 at 12:55 am
I don’t think there is anything wrong with Kris doing this cover. Kris, IMO, should answer the cover question like this:

‘My goal is to put out music that I connect with. That is what I am hoping for on this album. I love this Scripts’ song. I wish I had written it myself. It didn’t get any airplay when it was released as a B side, so I hope I can introduce the song to a larger audience. I love the positive message of the song. The rest of the album will all be new material, which I think will fit nicely with the vibe of the Scripts song.’ 

Excepppptttt … he isn’t nearly articulate enough to have done that. So some random fan over the Internet (you) had to do it. (Fantastic!) So the world is experiencing a collective gasp, wondering WFT he meant to REALLY say about his own CD, with his own songs, communicating his own sound. He can’t say, so we don’t know. WFT?

Excepppptttt ‘ ¦ he isn’t nearly articulate enough to have done that.

He was put on the spot. Next time, hopefully, he’ll know better, and will have a response prepared.

When someone is coming out from a tv show about covers, you’re just anxious to know how the original music of the artist sounds like, or how the music that it’s created for them sounds like. And yes, the album will come out and we’ll hear the sound, but still I find it anti-climatic for a first single, specially for the winner.

1) The song is a cover
a) it is a cover of an obscure song that Mr/Mrs Average won’t know

2) The studio laid Kris’s vocals over the original instrumentals
a) They wanted to hurry up and put something out that they knew would sell.
b) They did not consider the possibility that people with too much times on their hands would superimpose the performances in an attempt to make someone whom they’ve never met, and most likely never will, look foolish in the eyes of others who share their opinions on the internet.

3) It is not the first or last cover released as an Idol’s debut single.
a) this hasn’t been an issue in the past…what’s changed?

4) If Adam or Allison or Joe effin’ Schmoe releases a cover on their albums, are some of you gonna go apeshit and spend all day searching youtube for past performances to superimpose?????

6) Kris should’ve said it was a cover.
a) yes, he actually did backtrack and say it. He probably didn’t consider that it would cause a shitstorm of epic proportions.

edited

Well said Undercooked and Josielord. If we look at it as objectively as we can, we can all probably agree Jive may not be doing Kris right. NB was ditched (well, it sucked) but Kris was put at a disadvantage b/c he got no airtime or plays, tour reviews were mixed but not stellar, his first release is a cover (word for word) but everyone like Kris the artist/singer/songwriter on the show, the cover of the song doesn’t have his pic, it got released on a Friday (tuesday is normal), and they didn’t prep him for interviews. Did I miss anything? I think Jive is making it harder for him.

If Adam or Allison or Joe effin’ Schmoe releases a cover on their albums, are some of you gonna go apeshit and spend all day searching youtube for past performances to superimpose?????

Adam already said he might have one cover on his album. We want ROF! But, I hope whatever cover he does is not his debut single. I luvvvvvvvvv Adam but I would be disappointed if he took that route too.

GUYS, KRIS HAS GOT THIS. Kris fans – don’t freak out or worry or let non-Kris fans upset you. The single is doing well, the reviews have been 95% fantastic, the listener comments to radio stations have been very positive. Slezak wasn’t worried about all this other nonsense, and I’m certainly not. It’s not a secret it’s a Script song – NO ONE CARES ABOUT THAT except for a few non-fans who aren’t going to buy a Kris single anyway.

BeckyMD
September 26, 2009 at 12:27 am

Someone should send Monica Herrera the Script-Kris overlapped video and Tyler Ward’s acoustic cover -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9jP38sYZNU. Then hopefully she will know what improvement/twist and taking risk mean.

When the title of the song leaked I was hoping (if it was The Script’s song) that Kris would have been given the chance to rework the song significantly. Tyler Ward’s acoustic version is better than the original, IMO, but I still don’t like the song itself.

I am more like MJ – I buy albums. My favorite radio station plays albums sides (or half CDs today) during morning drive – best format ever, IMO. Kris’ single may not be the best (in my opinion) but so very often the best songs on an album don’t get radio play.

I am curious, based on some of the writers he’s working with, what his sound is really going to be like when the album is released.

If Adam or Allison or Joe effin’ Schmoe releases a cover on their albums, are some of you gonna go apeshit and spend all day searching youtube for past performances to superimpose?????

Adam already said he might have one cover on his album. We want ROF! But, I hope whatever cover he does is not his debut single. I luvvvvvvvvv Adam but I would be disappointed if he took that route too.

ROF? Just my 2 cents, but as an Adam fan, I think it’s time to move on.

I personally would be very disappointed if his 1st single was a cover even if it was from a song I didn’t know. I want to know how the Adam Lambert music sounds like, and I wanted to know the same about Kris Allen with his single.

This will make Kris fans happy. Ryan talks to Randy Jackson about Kris’s single. Very upbeat sincere feedback. and Ryan spins the song again. It’s at the end of the interview.

I hope it works

Ugly link:
http://www.kiisfm.com/cc-common/mediaplayer/player.html?redir=yes&mps=ryan.php&mid=http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/LOSANGELES-CA/KIIS-FM/randyjackson092509.mp3?CPROG=PCAST?CCOMRRMID&CPROG=RICHMEDIA&MARKET=LOSANGELES-CA&NG_FORMAT=chrrhythmic&NG_ID=kiis102fm&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&OWNER=&SERVER_NAME=www.kiisfm.com&SITE_ID=842&STATION_ID=KIIS-FM&TRACK=

deez
They did not consider the possibility that people with too much times on their hands would superimpose the performances in an attempt to make someone whom they’ve never met, and most likely never will, look foolish in the eyes of others who share their opinions on the internet.

To be a little more specific, I think who they underestimated were The Script fans. If you look at the at the channel of the person who created and uploaded that overlay video, they’ve got a collection of over 80 vids, most of which are The Script performances. And the links in the video description take you to The Script street team sites.

I’m an Adam fan, and I bought LLWD off iTunes first thing this morning. I like it. Maybe it’s because this kind of expectation hasn’t really been stressed for my own fave, but I really don’t need Kris to create from whole cloth or reinvent the song in order to enjoy it.

From all the vehement comments here, it seemed like some people were assuming that the overlay vid was created by an Adam fan to stir up trouble. But that really doesn’t seem to be the case. Lots of us like both Adam and Kris, or at the very least wish Kris well.

“alaadam
September 26, 2009 at 1:29 am
If Adam or Allison or Joe effin’ Schmoe releases a cover on their albums, are some of you gonna go apeshit and spend all day searching youtube for past performances to superimpose?????

Adam already said he might have one cover on his album. We want ROF! But, I hope whatever cover he does is not his debut single. I luvvvvvvvvv Adam but I would be disappointed if he took that route too.”

Ugggghhhhh. I sincerely hope he doesn’t as well. I don’t want round 2 of this!!!!!!!! (I loved RoF BTW) The cover aspect doesn’t really bother me. If it’s good it is, if you don’t like it, you don’t. I just seriously don’t get what’s going on here tonight.

Umm… wow. I listened to the interview and while it was boring, I don’t think it’s a career buster or anything. I also like the song well enough to buy it. I’m not sure how it’s much different to have other people write your songs (for the most part… let’s be real here Ahem) than to cover a song that wasn’t released to radio in the US. Casual fans will not make the distinction. Only Idol fans will.

ETA: I also don’t care if Allison or Adam have a cover or two on their albums. Some of my favorite versions of songs are covers. Think Johnny Cash. “Hurt” was way better than the original, and I love me some NIN.

And yes, Kris’ version is faithful to the original. So what? I liked the original and it isn’t well known here.

If a handful of fans of The Script are upset then they’re not getting it at all. Chris Cornell knew the value of Idol promotion, along with Collective Soul and Raine Maida who actually is now a close friend of David Cook. RCA is helping The Script. There is no need for damage control because there is not an issue to handle. I don’t understand all the vehemence and as my late great Mother would say, “this too shall pass.”

Kris was my favorite this season, he’s artistic person, and he has a great vision and his songs on the show were pure, brilliant and unique.
And now he left the show, after victory ‘“ and all they can do for him is a karaoke?

I’m sorry you feel this way and you’re completely entitled to it. DC was my fav last yr. I still love this guy! When LO first came out I was completely disappointed. Didn’t like it. It’s grown on me since.

When I heard LLWD, I loved the “cheesy” lyrics and thought, that’s a hit! My first impression of this song was good compared to last year. I believe Kris has tons of talent that hasn’t yet been tapped, but I’m very, very happy with his single. Kris is only beginning his career, more is yet to come. This album probably won’t be the best Kris has to offer, but I’m hoping for some goodness. I want it to do well enough for him to continue with his career. I thought I’d have to ‘settle’ for an okay single, instead, I love something that isn’t even my style of music. I’m thrilled!

This may not be how you see it, but it’s how I see it.

Now, I’ve gotta go to bed.

I bought the new Muse album. It’s a concept album and I LOVE it. But aside from the first couple of tracks’“one is already being used in the promo of V on ABC’“I don’t think these would air on the radio.

The Muse song “I Belong to You” will be on the Twilight New Moon soundtrack which would probably make it super popular because of the movie (similar to what happened to Supermassive Blackhole last year).

I can’t wait for Kris’ album! I’m sure it’ll be great!

When I heard LLWD, I loved the ‘cheesy’  lyrics and thought, that’s a hit! My first impression of this song was good compared to last year.

This. I’m afraid anyone who believed he would be writing his own songs exclusively has not been paying attention to Idol. I think Jive did him a favor with this song. I guess time will tell.

I still buy albums, and I find singles are typically NOT the best songs on any album. Definitely not the most interesting to listen to’ ¦.

Absolutely, tell U2 and “Get on Your Boots” about it! With 11 songs on the album, they had to release the worst one as a single. Even them, a legendary band. Unfortunately, I think it did affect their sales.

BTW, I don’t think this is the same as Kris’ situation, LLWD is a catchy song, I still believe it will sell very well.

So AI winners just sit there and take whatever is dished out even if it ruins them in the eyes of some people?

Yep. And so does the runner-up, or anybody signed by 19 straight off of AI. These kids have no track record. They don’t get a say.

Having said that, I think the sturm and drang about this song is way overblown. I hardly think Kris is “ruined” at this point.

Is this really that much worse than previous years MJ?

In a word? Yes. And I didn’t think anything could top Season 5.

In a word? Yes. And I didn’t think anything could top Season 5

I can’t imagine reading through every comment and having to mod this, MJ. You totally rock.

I’m not going to predict much about Kris’ album until I hear it. I do think the single is catchy and radio friendly. That’s what Jive does.

Then, slapped that vocal track on the orginal instrumental track and ‘” voila ‘” that the kid’s first single.

No. Listen to both of them. It’s almost exactly the same, but there were some changes made to Kris’s version. For instance, there are strings in the original version, but not in Kris’s.

mj
September 26, 2009 at 2:26 am
Then, slapped that vocal track on the orginal instrumental track and ‘” voila ‘” that the kid’s first single.

No. Listen to both of them. It’s almost exactly the same, but there were some changes made to Kris’s version. For instance, there are strings in the original version, but not in Kris’s.

Some posted without even hearing the radio interview.Do you really think they listened to both versions?

mj
Listen to both of them. It’s almost exactly t