But I feel compelled to contribute to this thread. Maybe, I think it will help in some way for him to achieve the longevity he desires.

Have to say there are some moves that just kill me. When I saw the Tacoma version of WLL I think I had a gasm. I esp liked the ‘come on give it to me’ move.

On the AI show I really enjoyed Ring of Fire overall and I did not like the hand waving over the head too much but there was a very subtle hip and leg swish move that was so hot. I love to re-watch the making of the Mix it Ford video, when he dances, and smiles, and when he gives that sideways sexy look, I just swoon.

I think that is why I am not liking the heavy eyeshadow so much. It detracts from the facial expressions that I fell in love with on the show. I know it’s stadium seating but I was hoping to catch one of those looks on the big screen. I do however like the guyliner and the rhinestones, those are very cool, he wore rstones when he sang with Kiss as well.

I think with Adam, less would definitely be more. He has such magnetism that just that little shake of his shoulders sends shivers down my spine. But I know he likes to have that ‘shock effect.’ It’s a thin, wavy line but I am sure that he will work it out by the time he has his own concert. After all, this is still an AI showboat.

I have watched most of the videos from the concerts and they seem kind of dark, making it difficult to actually see all his moves, the spotlight doesn’t always keep up, and the stage looks crowded. I hope it is just the video quality. But love the change from the tank top to the vest.

And finally, he does not need to be MJ, he is a fiery hot star all on his own.

I love Adam, but I also find some of his moves not too my liking’ ¦ Not sure what it is exactly. I actually find some of what Adam does off-putting, which I am shocked to say, because I really, really like Adam.

Some of Adam’s moves seem too rehearsed … and I hate feeling that way’ ¦.

ITA. The fans come with the territory. My thinking after the Daughtry run in was – hey, buddy – we voted our butts off for you on idol (I bought a freaking go phone for him I was so desperate to get him through!) And celebs of all varieties have to remember that the fans really are what make or break them.
So you gotta kind of show them some love too.

During the concert, he gave a shout out to the fans, but the reaction to them after the show was what made me think that you got to walk the walk if you’re gonna talk the talk.

I have to say I disagree with this. The only thing my favorite artists owe me is to make great music. That’s it. They don’t owe me an autograph, personal photo, a personal shoutout from the stage, or anything other than making music I can groove to.

If they’re happy to do that stuff? BONUS!

I always try to keep in mind that while I’m sure they all appreciate fan support, some people (whether they’re stars or not) have different personal boundaries. Big groups of fans can be overwhelming. Perhaps there have been some really bad experiences with fans grabbing their junk or trying to stick their hands down the star’s pants (have personally witnessed this one and it was VERY uncool).

From different things I’ve read around the web, posted by the fans themselves, it seems to me that some AI fans feel more entitled to a ‘piece’ of the artists because “we voted for hours for you, you owe us!” And having seen these guys on their TVs for a few moths the fans feel like they really know them. We don’t. We only know a small portion of them.

So it would probably be good for them to be as friendly to the fans as they feel they can be, but the fans have to keep in mind that really they are owed nothing but the music. Everything else is gravy.

I flove Adam, but I also find some of his moves not too my liking’ ¦ Not sure what it is exactly. I actually find some of what Adam does off-putting, which I am shocked to say, because I really, really like Adam.

Some of Adam’s moves seem too rehearsed and cheesy to me, and I hate feeling that way’ ¦.

In all honesty, there are a lot of artists out there who make me feel the same way, especially those in music categorized as being a little more “out there” and OTT (and that’s a lot of them, since this IS music, which is often characterized by larger-than-life stage presences).

MJ is a perfect example. Re-watching some of his stuff (brilliant though it is), some of it is (please don’t take this the wrong way) kind of laughably absurd too. The costumes, the outfits, the mannerisms, the OTT gestures and sexualization of things. Watching some of the vids definitely gave me this sense.

But I agree with the comment about Adam appealing to more than just women and gays – that is really essential. With him it’s kind of a double-edged sword, because part of what I love about him is the OTT’ness, the fact that even if I don’t like it completely, I still respect the guttsiness and bravado with which he goes out there and does it. To take that away to sanitize it might take away that allure.

But I do think that getting him in line with some top choreographers will really sharpen his moves. JT, Beyonce – all of them have that kind of talent helping them out. They can take what he has (which is a very maleable body) and put the right choreography on to it.

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…Maybe he throws in too much bump and grind for me’ ¦.
Don’t get me wrong, I like the slinky-stuff, just in moderation’ ¦ I wonder what straight guys think about those moves?

I have no idea what straight guys think about it, as I have not canvassed any (though I’m thinking that might be an interesting social experiment), and JMO of course, but I think what they SHOULD be is envious that he is capable of moving that way and eliciting such a strong response from so many women, LOL. Totally works for me – and I, for the most part, am looking at the technique aspect of the moves and how they mirror/channel/compliment the music & lyrics, rather than the sexual/sensual suggestion of said moves. Most straight guys (at least the ones around ME) couldn’t pull that stuff off to save their lives.

Tess
Nothing is a bigger turnoff for me than the singer who says or presents an attitude of ‘Man, I have to tolerate everyone of you damn fans but I want you to know I hate everything about you’ ¦

ITA as well. And I immediately thought of these lyrics (Ugly Kid Joe) :wink1_tb: :

Some say I’ve got a bad attitude,
but that don’t change the way I feel about you,
and if you think this might be bringing me down,
look again ’cause I ain’t wearing no frown!
—
You think it’s sad,
well that’s too bad,
‘Cause I’m havin’
A ball hatin’
Every little thing about you!
—
And I, hate everything about you!
…everything about you!

Adam is definitely no MJ when it comes to dancing. Adam is used to the bump and grind from his Zodiac shows. I bet once he work with a few choreographers and a few back-up dancers for his solo tours he would be great.

You know, I think you are correct. Maybe he throws in too much bump and grind for me…. Maybe when he has had a chance to watch his performances back he will decide to make some changes… Although judging from the comments here, most everyone likes the “b & g”
Don’t get me wrong, I like the slinky-stuff, just in moderation…

I wonder what straight guys think about those moves?

Maybe I have been comparing Adam’s dance moves to Michael Jackson’s and Adam comes up short.

Adam is definitely no MJ when it comes to dancing. Adam is used to the bump and grind from his Zodiac shows. I bet once he work with a few choreographers and a few back-up dancers for his solo tours he would be great.

In that regard, I think Taylor was definitely the biggest flop. I could never understand the mad love for him his season – to me he was just goofy and not current. But he was HUGELY popular with the fans that year (never in the B3, lots of love from the crowd, etc.)

Now, granted this is when I viewed Idol as nothing more than a TV show and never expected to purchase any of the contestants’ work or follow them afterwards, but I’ve got to say Taylor was enormously entertaining for me. There was no artiface about him. He seemed to take great joy in performing and didn’t appear to be figuratively choreographed at all … let alone literally choreographed. I would get a big smile on my face watching him. So many of the Idols through the years, you can see the wheels turning in their heads as they try and put on a show…. “This is what a rocker should be like; this is what a diva is like; this is what a soul singer is like; etc.” It’s not organic to them. (Not all of them, of course, but many and that’s what the audience sees through.) Taylor, on the other hand, he was unapologetically goofy and joyful. He wasn’t trying to be anything he wasn’t.

The icing on the cake was, Simon couldn’t stand Taylor. That was a real plus for me. Ha!

Nothing is a bigger turnoff for me than the singer who says or presents an attitude of ‘Man, I have to tolerate everyone of you damn fans but I want you to know I hate everything about you’ ¦Now go out and spend your money on a concert ticket and an album but leave me THE HELL ALONE.’ 

ITA. The fans come with the territory. My thinking after the Daughtry run in was – hey, buddy – we voted our butts off for you on idol (I bought a freaking go phone for him I was so desperate to get him through!) And celebs of all varieties have to remember that the fans really are what make or break them.
So you gotta kind of show them some love too.

During the concert, he gave a shout out to the fans, but the reaction to them after the show was what made me think that you got to walk the walk if you’re gonna talk the talk.

Some of Adam’s moves seem too rehearsed and cheesy to me, and I hate feeling that way….
Maybe I have been comparing Adam’s dance moves to Michael Jackson’s and Adam comes up short. Obviously MJ was very rehearsed, but for some reason his dancing just comes across better, not as cheesy. Maybe it is because MJ was truly a dancer, while Adam doesn’t have the same skill level?

All that aside, I will still go see Adam Lambert in a solo concert in a heart beat.