Kelly Clarkson To Clive Davis: I Refuse to Be Bullied (Liar Liar Pants on Fire)

Kelly Clarkson FIRES BACK at Clive Davis. Check out what she wrote on her WhoSay page in response to Clive’s account of the My December fiasco:

ETA: WOW.  No wonder Kelly is pissed. The story Clive tells in his book is DRAMATICALLY different than Kelly’s version. For instance he denies ever rejecting the song “Because of You”–a story Kelly has told to the press on many occasions over the years.   “I loved the song from first listen and felt that it delivered on the promise that Kelly could indeed write hits.”  Clive wrote, “It is well known that we trumpeted it to everyone in [the record company] promotion [department].” Oh really Clive?

ABC News Radio has a point by point analysis of the differences between the two stories.  Click to read it here.  Also, The Hollywood Reporter has transcribed passages from the book that relate to Kelly.

So I just heard Clive Davis is releasing a memoir and spreading false information about me and my music. I refuse to be bullied and I just have to clear up his memory lapses and misinformation for myself and for my fans. It feels like a violation. Growing up is awesome because you learn you don’t have to cower to anyone – even Clive Davis.

First, he says I burst into “hysterical sobbing” in his office when he demanded Since You Been Gone be on my album. Not true at all. His stories and songs are mixed up. I did want more guitars added to the original demo and Clive did not. Max, Luke and I still fought for the bigger sound and we prevailed and I couldn’t be more proud of the life of that song. I resent him dampening that song in any way.

But, yes, I did cry in his office once. I cried after I played him a song I had written about my life called “Because Of You.” I cried because he hated it and told me verbatim that I was a “sh*tty writer who should be grateful for the gifts that he bestows upon me.” He continued on about how the song didn’t rhyme and how I should just shut up and sing. This was devastating coming from a man who I, as a young girl, considered a musical hero and was so honored to work with.

But I continued to fight for the song and the label relented. And it became a worldwide hit. He didn’t include that in the book.

He also goes on to say My December wasn’t successful because I co-penned the album and it didn’t have “pop hits”. Well, first let me say, I’ve co-penned many of my “pop hits.” Secondly, My December went platinum (It sold 20,000 less than All I Ever Wanted which followed My December.) Hardly a huge failure. Never Again, the ONLY single they released in the US from that record was a Top 10 hit. I am very proud of that and I have my fans to thank. But, again, what’s most interesting about his story is what he leaves out: He doesn’t mention how he stood up in front of his company at a convention and belittled me and my music and completely sabotaged the entire project. It never had a chance to reach it’s full potential. My December was an album I needed to make for myself for many reasons and the fact that I was so completely disregarded and disrespected was so disheartening, there really aren’t words to explain….

Anyway, I love my job. I love my music. I love my fans. I love my label and all of my professional relationships… now. And I am grateful for Clive for teaching me to know the difference.

Cheers to another amazing year! And, as always, thanks for listening!

KC

Kudos to Kelly for speaking truth to power.  I never doubted that Clive, out of spite, did everything he could to spike My December, whether it was out of spite, or to just teach Kelly and her team a lesson. If Clive were a thoughtful guy, he’d be taking at least SOME responsibility for the failure of My December.  But instead, he proceeded to belittle and attempted to humiliate Kelly all over again.  It takes a lot of guts to stand up to a guy who is so revered (and feared) in the record industry.  I really admire Kelly for standing up for herself.

Kelly survived that difficult experience and continues to THRIVE.  That’s why she’s QUEEN KELLY y’all.

And as a side note:  Clive’s account that Kelly did not want “Since U Been Gone” on her album? Does that EVEN pass the smell test?

GO KELLY GO KELLY #TEAMKELLY.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VFHRUD5RUD5Q3YXK32TVBMBF4A Souza

    Go girl. team Kelly. I believe all her words over his bs.

  • TLB

    YES! So happy and proud of Kelly for this. 

    “Legends” don’t have the right to treat other people poorly.

  • http://twitter.com/INIatali NatterTV

    Of course I believe Kelly over this money hungry asshole. This is the same story she told when the whole mess of MD happened. She never changed it. He did. Case closed. Kelly wins. 

  • http://twitter.com/PFlowerstone Peg

    Wow!  She’s definitely not afraid of the Dark Lord.

  • http://www.facebook.com/crazyrunninglady Lara Kondor

    Good for her!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7XWQYID5YZWLTPFE5RUAO5RZAU David??[08-09????]

    Wow, this was very powerful to read. Good on yea, girl!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IDXVM7NCMXZVHX4M2RFBYOTYDA Robert

    That is what you call taking someone behind the verbal woodshed.

    Good for Kelly.

  • tierbee

    Good for her. And very well-written, to boot :)

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    I love Kelly.  With the exception of her Greatest Hits I own pretty much everything she’s released since Idol, including My December.  Also, to me she once again proves there is a way to stand up for yourself, but still keep it classy.  Well written and to the point.  

  • Niall

    I believe every word of Kelly’s response. I already respected her and now even moreso. It takes guts to publicly smack Clive.

  • waitingforthe1

    If I weren’t already a fan this lashing she just gave Clive Davis would make me a fan.

    He’s an a-hole who treated not only her and many other idols like total crap.  He thought he was doing them a favor by “allowing” them to be on RCA when in fact they were doing him the favor. 

  • http://twitter.com/bluinjewin Landon Cox

    She’d better werq

  • http://twitter.com/IkeMendes Henrique Mendes

    Team Kelly! She remembers all the details very clearly‚ and Clive changed his tune. That proves that he is full of bs.

    Also I don’t understand the concept of telling an artist who makes millions for him‚ and has music talent pouring out of her‚ that she is a failure. 
    She sold those albums! 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7JTO2ZWH7CHEUP7DI5ZAQLDTW4 kcfan

    Just when you thought you couldn’t love KC anymore. :)

  • bestmusic

    You go girl! He is such a slime and I believe other Idols probably have stories they could share as well. 

  • Goodvibes27

    I couldn’t be prouder of Kelly for standing up to that ogre. I guess this means she’s not working with Clive anymore LOL.

  • http://twitter.com/KatiesUVULA Katie’s Uvula

    WERK IT KELLY BABY. <3 I love Kelly for speaking her mind and not fearing about what "legends" or big names have to say. I DOUBT Kelly would cry like a baby for having Since U Been Gone on her album like that TROLLFACED Clive said

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S3ZGXZCUE2YYOS7QV6QSTKM4SA buffynut2001

    Love her! You go girl!! The tweets, in support of her, are quite entertaining right now!

  • heartly

    I’m going to go out on a limb here and say in the future she won’t be attending any of the pre-grammy bashes he throws.

    damn.

  • http://twitter.com/lufflyness Jenna

    Yessssss drag him Kelly!!!

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Not only is Clive an asshole. He’s a lying asshole.

  • mtlfan2

    I’m so team Kelly!!! Go Kelly!!!
    Clive is an asshole or he’s senile or both

  • tigervixxxen

    I think that ship sailed long ago lol.

    Good for Kelly. Maybe some other Idols will eventually have the courage to speak out.

  • HermeticallySealed

    Meh, I’m more likely to believe the truth lies somewhere in between both of their accounts than some mythical Angel vs the Lord of Evil scenario.

  • fuzzywuzzy
  • heartly

    Oh, I know. She’s always has something come up on that night. lol I think she’s only been to two of them, maybe three, in all these years.

  • Triskel4

    You go, Kelly.  What a strong, confident woman she is.  Can’t help but admire her.

  • rayni

    Team Kelly here!!!

    And just for the beauty of her response, I’m gonna go buy My December right NOW!!!!

  • Mateja Praznik

    I will just say that My December is Kelly’s worst album and I’m glad the label gave her a lesson.

  • http://twitter.com/IkeMendes Henrique Mendes

    lol I am sure she will be crying about that 

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

     For Clive being such a lying asshole, he has gotten pretty far in his life lol. Worked with Janis Joplin, Whitney Houston and even more musical superstars. He is getting up there in age though, so maybe he has it a little blurry. Kelly should be careful though, she might make the wrong enemies in the industry and end up blacklisted like Michael Jackson was.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I will never forget Clive telling Bo Bice they were going to make a very special record together, and then forcing him to produce dreck and calling it “The Real Thing.”

    Go Team Kelly.

    As for his sexuality, no shocker there. Not exactly a secret. Who cares?

  • Abner4President

    Yeah… because talking back to a record label executive was Michael Jackson’s undoing.

  • Holden17C

    I haven’t read the book. I’ve only seen random quotes from it, and I don’t want to interpret them out of their complete context.

    Kelly & Clive disagreed then, so they aren’t likely to suddenly agree now. That’s ok. Kelly views music from an artistic perspective, whereas Clive views it from an A&R perspective. As a music fan, I like “My December,” but I admit it isn’t necessarily “Clear Channel radio friendly.” I can understand why they butted heads. In the end, Kelly’s name went on that album, so she was right to fight for her musical identity.

  • fantoo1

    Wow Clive sounds like a bully. Can you imagine your boss saying things like that to you?

    Have any of the other idols had any battles with him? I’m sure there’s always disagreements, but anything big?

  • abbysee

    #Kelly! Crypt keeper Clive is never going to get over himself, when it comes to Kelly. He’s a bully, but she isn’t one to be trifled with!

  • Valentin432

    Nothing really new, I had already read about the different problems concerning SUBG, Because Of You and My December.

    I’m a little surprised Clive needs to use this to sell his biography, the guy must have tousands of interesting anecdotes about the industry to tell.

  • irockhard

    If I remember correctly MJ and Qunicy Jones butted heads over Billie Jean. Quincy didn’t want it on Thriller, MJ fought for it and got his way, and Thriller didn’t really take off until Billie Jean became a single.

  • standtotheright

    I will just say that My December is Kelly’s worst album and I’m glad the label gave her a lesson.

    Yes, because smart corporate executives always put punishing the creative talent ahead of coordinating on projects that could turn a profit. She’s going to win the court of public opinion, and rightly so. He wasn’t just vindictive, he was stupid.

  • b_james

    You tell that mummy!  GO KELLY!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7JTO2ZWH7CHEUP7DI5ZAQLDTW4 kcfan

    Yeah, but what he did to Kelly was wrong. He was a bully.

  • windmills

    I’m not gonna lie, I was really enjoying the lack of drama in Kellyland. And I honestly didn’t think people were going to take Clive’s take on the My December drama all that seriously. He can’t touch her now. She’s survived that chapter in her life and she’s thrived from everything she’s learned from it. 

    But at the same time what this ultimately boils down to, and the thing that I’m really glad Kelly pointed out in her statement, is that Clive wasn’t there for Kelly when she needed him to understand her. He was worse than not there for her. It was a failure of record label management topped off by a failure of Kelly’s actual management. For him to try to rewrite that history even a little (and this is more than a little) speaks to his inability to acknowledge his own failure to nurture the talent on his roster. 

    Kelly had to speak up again now because of what this represents to her. I hope that after the initial rush of #teamkelly, people get that. And I hope this doesn’t get turned into some “he said/she said”/feud thing by the media. I can buy the idea that maybe we’ll never know what really went down in all these battles. But, there’s a reason those battles were personal for Kelly and Clive’s continued failure to understand that says a lot about his limitations as a music executive, especially in this day and age.

  • abbysee

    Nobody is saying any of that, but check the archives, most of this has been discussed ad nauseum. The truth, is the truth.

  • Goodvibes27

    Have any of the other idols had any battles with him? I’m sure there’s always disagreements, but anything big?

    Clive never liked Taylor Hicks. They never got along and clashed while making the album. So Clive decided to release Taylor’s album without an advance single or promoting any single to radio. He never made a video for any of Taylor’s songs. And then in his bizarre 2007 finale “State of the idols” speech, he opted to belittle Taylor’s sales instead of presenting him with his gold single or platinum album award . Taylor has alluded to all this, but never flat out and said it like Kelly has…and Kelly’s still on the label!

  • HermeticallySealed

     The truth is frankly something I doubt anyone who wasn’t there in person is going to know. ::Shrug:: I have no horse in this race, as Clive is known to be pushy and obstinate, and Kelly always comes off as overly defensive.  Short of actual video, I’m more likely to believe the “truth” lies in between both of their recollections.

  • jan

     Team Kelly on this. I love an artist who isn’t a pushover. Kelly has proven herself in more ways than one.

  • Hazehel

    I’m wondering why Kelly is still with RCA.  I thought her contract is for 5 albums, and she has done 5 albums with them.  She complained a few times about not being allow to do what she wanted to do, so shouldn’t she just go to another label that’s more amenable? 

  • mad1son

    Have any of the other idols had any battles with him?

    Almost all of them. No one has been as public about it as Kelly just was, but there have always been stories and rumors about Clive bulldozing idols into putting out music they didn’t want, treating them crap, wringing as much quick money from them as he could and then tossing them aside. I think if people like Justin, Diana, Bo, Taylor, Blake, etc. ever spill, the stories will curl our hair. Idol fans didn’t nickname him Our Dread Lord for nothing!

  • http://twitter.com/lufflyness Jenna

    Of course we won’t know “the truth” because we weren’t there, but history tells us that there has long been an issue between major label artists and their label heads that gets swept under the rug because one is in a position of power and influence behind the scenes. I’m glad Kelly is shedding light on that. 

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Have any of the other idols had any battles with him? I’m sure there’s always disagreements, but anything big?”

    I don’t know how “big” this is, but Ruben wrote on an online chat that he had wanted to record a Luther-esque album right after Idol, and Clive pushed him to record an album that wasn’t him. At the time, Luther Vandross had suffered a debilitating stroke and Barry White has just passed, so there was a gap in their kind of smooth r&b music that Ruben could have filled very well.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7JTO2ZWH7CHEUP7DI5ZAQLDTW4 kcfan

    They changed it to six years ago. So she has one more to make with them. 

  • HermeticallySealed

    Of course there has been.  There was never any doubt about that, and certainly others besides Kelly have said as much. However, that doesn’t mean it’s all black and white, she’s all right, he’s all wrong.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Lots of super successful people are lying assholes. lol I don’t know anything about Clive’s interactions with any of the mega-stars who he discovered, but I do think that he regarded anyone from Idol as in a different category than a “real” artist and may have treated them differently as a result. That still doesn’t excuse how he tried to destroy Kelly (or any artist who he is charged with nurturing and developing).

  • usedtobelucy

    “For Clive being such a lying asshole, he has gotten pretty far in his life lol. ”

    Because lying assholes never meet with success? Not so sure of that. heh

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

     When it came down to making decisions about his music it was.

  • irockhard

    Hehe, MTV decided to bring this old vid up again: http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/157600/kelly-clarksons-new-lp-reviewed-in-60-seconds.jhtml

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I tend to believe Kelly on this for a couple of reasons.  Clive dealt with many artists so the notion that he could have mixed up the songs or incidents isn’t all that unrealistic, even if  he wasn’t old. But he is.  On the other hand, Kelly was fighting for HER songs, so I would think her memory would be a little better.  

    It’s not like Kelly is doing this for headlines or to get press.  She’s doing great as it is.

  • irockhard

    Plenty of people get very far in their lives by lying, cheating, stealing and stabbing people in the back, or doing even worse things.

  • mjsbigblog

    Clive made it 2007 all over again, smearing Kelly and attempting to humiliate her. She HAD to stand up for herself. He kind of forced her hand.

    The guy seems to have no ability to self reflect with any honesty. ITA, Clive wasn’t there for her. Even if he didn’t like the record, he should have done all he could to support it–even if only from a business perspective. But still, a record exec has the responsibility to have the back of his artists. Just…shame on him.

    Let’s not even start about how he dragged Whitney Houston back into the spotlight before she was ready. Or insisted on carrying on with his stupid Grammy party, even as her cold dead body still lay in her room upstairs. But I digress.

    I’m guessing the book is self-congratulatory and full of hubris. Somebody I know who has read it told me there is an entire chapter on Idol.

    I’m going to have to read it now, I guess.

  • mjsbigblog

    There is an ENTIRELY different team at RCA now. When she made her last record, she had nothing but good things to say about the label.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Check it out from the library so you don’t give his ass a penny!

  • jobeob987

    I agree.  If “My December” wasn’t as successful as it should have been, it’s due to Clive trying to sabotage it before it was ever released.  He made every effort to distance himself from that project.

    Love Kelly and her fieriness!
     

  • breakdown

    I dunno why Clive felt it necessary to recount this hurtful time between he and Kelly. I have always had mixed feelings about him. Music is a business afterall and record labels foot the bill so they should have a pretty big say in what goes on the album, especially for the “newer” artists.

  • wonderings

    Right on Kelly!  You tell ‘em.  So bold, and so awesome.  

    Seems straight out of “Catch My Breath” too:”I’ve spent most of my life
    Riding waves, playing acrobat
    Shadowboxing the other half
    Learning how to react
    I’ve spent most of my time

    Catching my breath, letting it go
    Turning my cheek for the sake of the show
    Now that you know this is my life
    I won’t be told what’s supposed to be rightCatch my breathNo one can hold me back, I ain’t got time for that
    Catch my breathWon’t let them get me down, it’s all so simple now…”

  • http://twitter.com/lufflyness Jenna

    I get where you are coming from but by going with this PC stance you are almost belittling Kelly’s argument which is one that I see as a completely valid one in the music industry that deserves far more insight than it has gotten in the past. I don’t believe Clive to be this penultimate villain and Kelly some heroic savior, but I do think the situation represents a textbook case of what is wrong with the music industry regardless of who’s story you find more accurate.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Clive trying to drum up additional sales.

  • HermeticallySealed

    ‘PC stance?’  Okay . . . . Didn’t think realistic thinking was PC now.

  • justhoo1

    Good for Kelly for speaking up and sharing her side of the story. At least she is in a position of power and can do this without facing major repercussions from her label since she is at the end of her contract.  It is amazes me that she didn’t buy out her contract and leave RCA after the My December debacle.  She certainly had made a fortune during the Breakaway era and could have afforded to so this.  She seems to have an independent artist mind on a hit requiring label.  Sometimes the two clash in a bad way.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I think she’s getting good advice from her management. Didn’t she change management right around the time of My December? I think Blackstock and Reba and her new fiance have her back. Blake Shelton, too.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7JTO2ZWH7CHEUP7DI5ZAQLDTW4 kcfan

    IIRC she did try to get out of contract but with even having the best lawyers she couldn’t get out of it. 

  • http://twitter.com/lufflyness Jenna

    Meh, maybe that wasn’t the best phrase for it, but basically this “realistic” thinking doesn’t really say anything. Of course there is a grey area, there will always be a grey area. But at some point it is appropriate to seriously consider the points someone is trying to make against someone else’s.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “He doesn’t mention how he stood up in front of his company at a convention and belittled me and my music and completely sabotaged the entire project.”

    I found this report on a message board that supports this:

    Word out of the SonyBMG Conference is that at the J-Arista Presentation, Clive announced to all attendees that Kelly Clarkson told him she no longer needs his help in finding songs for her as she will write all the tunes for her new album.Clive then proceeded to play each of her first four singles in order introducing each saying “Remember, we’re all family here and this project is worth hundreds of millions of dollars and does this sound like a Number One single to you?”From the audience, Rolf Schmidt-Holz jumped up and sent Goldstuck on-stage to stop Clive and that was the extent of the Arista presentation. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7JTO2ZWH7CHEUP7DI5ZAQLDTW4 kcfan

    Yes, right after My December was released she fired Jeff Kwatinetz and like a week later signed with Narvel & Starstruck.

  • HermeticallySealed

     I didn’t think that Clive being a controlling stubborn, self-centered individual was really unclear to be honest.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    The good thing is that she obviously feels comfortable in her professional and personal relationships now.  She can defend herself without worrying about career backlash.

  • girlygirltoo

    Totally #TeamKelly on this. You go, girl!

  • http://www.facebook.com/beaugard.stevens Beaugard Stevens

    Yes, why would she cry over “since U been gone”- I think people like Clive think of the truth like a business- it doesn’t matter what you say or if it really happened, if it looks good in the book, that’s what you write- because it’s not about the truth- it’s just about putting out a book that people buy

  • ST7

    I think I just gained more respect for Kelly than any other artist. I live her even more. Sometimes I say people have diff perceptions of the save event.. But thus is way off. I do believe Kelly. Just wish all these talk shows who interview Clive contact kellys team for a statement if he mentions her. I assume she’s on a diff label than his these days. So sad..right when he was gonna be labeled a gay hero. But also that’s how big execs talk..had mY share w BB ,JP,HEM and others at Warner brothers. Her story just rings true.. and I still listen to never again ,Judas, one minute …. good cardio songs. I do remember the album never being promoted and Kelly being upset about that.. These days she couldn’t tweeted up a storm herself… She never was findsmatch breakaways major ssucces.. and because of you is a fave of many. Start hasheesh #TEAMKELLY

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I know that she fired her manager, Jeff Kwatinetz, at The Firm at the height of the MD chaos, but I’m not sure how quickly after that she became a client of Narvel’s, but it was pretty soon. This article from early July, 2007, announced that Kelly had signed with Narvel’s Starstruck Entertainment.

    http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/kelly-clarkson-signs-with-reba-mcentire-management-company-5446.php

    ETA: My December was released on June 26, 1007, so it sounds like Kelly signed with Narvel right around then.

    http://www.amazon.com/My-December-Kelly-Clarkson/dp/B000QFAJ7S/ref=sr_1_7?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1361312954&sr=1-7&keywords=kelly+clarkson

  • http://twitter.com/lufflyness Jenna

    I’m not really sure what the issue is then =P

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Thanks for that article. I especially like what Reba had to say in the last paragraph.

  • mjsbigblog

    Here’s an item that was written up for the blog in June 2007. It’s a comprehensive timeline of the “My December” saga, via clips from the media:

     http://mjsbigblog.staging.wpengine.com/a-comprehensive-kelly-timeline.htm

  • tripp_ncwy

    The Hollywood Reporter posted actual excepts from the book;

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/idol-worship/kelly-clarkson-slams-clive-davis-422397

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “I especially like what Reba had to say in the last paragraph.”

    Excerpt from that article:

    McEntire was also vocal in her support for Clarkson throughout the young singer’s feud with Davis. “It’s pretty heavy, what happened to her.  She was thrown into the ocean without a life preserver. And she handled it. I don’t know that I could have,” said McEntire in Elle magazine’s July 2007 issue. “Back in the day, female artists were told to perform and then go sit in the corner.  Thank God for people like Dolly Parton who took charge. Kelly is the same way. She knows what she wants. She’s had a rough go of it in the music business. People think she just won Idol and everything else was easy. Not so. She’s had to fight.” 

    Reba is a old pro in the music business and if she says that what Kelly went through was “pretty heavy” and that she didn’t know that she would have been able to handle it, then I believe that Clive put Kelly through h*ll.

  • parsenip

    And just like that I love Kelly Clarkson once again.  Wow.  She’s didn’t just fall off the turnip truck either so she must have some idea that this could cost her.  Good on you Kelly.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Li-Wright/100001622678180 Li Wright

    Guess who’s not getting an invite to the next Pre-grammy party?

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I’m guessing that it isn’t the hippest party to attend. I’m also guessing she doesn’t give a #$%#

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Wow. Clive is just making up sh*t, and as I expected, making himself look like a sweet, caring kind of fatherly type of guy. lol Methinks that Clive’s memoirs are more fiction than fact. 

    N.B. When a book is categorized as a “memoir”, there’s really no verification done and the standards for accuracy are much lower than a book categorized as an “autobiography”. For example, James Frey wrote the memoir “A Million Little Pieces” and was exposed for lying by Oprah. His publisher appeared with him and indicated that they were not culpable for checking the accuracy of Frey’s book prior to publishing because it was a “memoir” and not an “autobiography”.

  • http://twitter.com/KobeAnd8 Kevin

    Adding to what pj said, Kelly herself have never liked going to parties anyway. Who the f*** wants to go to a party hosted by a lying prick. And by the way, having a party before the Grammys is just plain stupid. I would rather go to an after party hosted by some other person or label than go to that pre-Grammy party.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bug-Menot/100003601718986 Bug Menot

    Excerpts from a good article written in 2007:

    ———————————-

    While Davis might not be a big fan of the musical material written by
    Clarkson, it was recently recognized by the American Society of
    Composers, Authors, and Publishers (ASCAP), which presented Clarkson
    with its 2007 song of the year award for “Because of You,” a “Breakaway”
    single that she wrote when she was 16-years-old.

    “The label didn’t even acknowledge her ASCAP awards,” Clarkson’s manager Jeff Kwatinetz told Elle.
    “It’s upsetting. They don’t want her to be a songwriter. They just want
    her to shut up and sing. They want her to stay their little American Idol.”

    ———————————-

    Clarkson says she even had to fight over her appearance on Idol Gives Back, the sixth-season charity event
    that raised money to support organizations that provide relief to
    children and young people living in poverty in Africa and America.

    “My label wanted me to sing ‘Never Again,'” Clarkson told Elle,
    referring to the first single from “My December.” “And I was like, ‘To
    promote yourself on a charity event is beyond crass.’ People are
    starving and dying and I’m up there singing some bitter pop song? And
    believe me, everyone wanted me to sing it. Because they are jaded and
    they have no soul. Imagine sitting in a room full of people totally
    against you. Can’t they hear themselves speaking? Capitalize on AIDS?
    Are you kidding? Insulting an entire nation of people? I just refused.”

    ———————————-

    http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/original-idol-kelly-clarkson-could-give-crap-about-being-star-5317.php

  • tripp_ncwy

    Kelly has attended/performed at Clive’s pre-grammy party in the past.  I was  always under the assumption that Clive’s party was the premier invite to get Grammy week.

  • MV007

    I’m not even sure Kelly could attend the party.  She might be a little busy rehearsing for a performance on the actual show or writing another acceptance speech.

  • wycheb

    If it’s Mr. Davis’ memoir it is subjective to what he remembers and perhaps he has a little dementia. And who is going to read it anyway? I am an avid reader but that book is not on my list of must reads. And havent most Idol winners and runners up had to fight to be noticed? (I said “most” not all.)

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

    First off, I do agree that the song Because of You sounds like it was written by a 16 year old. Secondly, Kelly comes off very self centered about what song to sing at a Idol Gives Back, again making it all about herself lol. She really comes of Diva’ish there IMO. She could have performed the song to help promote the album, which I believe from what I have read, the label didn’t like to begin with. Kill two birds with one stone, perform for charity, which is what she was asked to do, AND promote and album.

  • MV007

    I’m not sure how Kelly is the one that comes off self-centered in that Idol Gives Back situation.  In fact, if you believe her, she was actively trying not to make it about herself.  Charity events like that are not the time to promote music.  You didn’t see Taylor Swift sing “Love Story” during the event for Haiti.  From Kelly’s account she comes off as the self-less one.  It would have been selfish to use that opportunity for personal gain.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TP6FDKZWZZOESHA5DCZVTU24T4 JasonG

    Why would she want to sing a single to promote her album on IDOL Gives Back… a CHARITY event. That is wrong and Kelly knew it too. I’m glad she didn’t sing Never Again, a bitter pop song, on what is supposed to be an inspiring episode of Idol. 

  • Chicagolaw

    LOVE that she’s not afraid to speak up and defend herself!

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I do think that Clive’s memory is very faulty and it only makes me wonder how many other stories he’s messed up and “misremembered”. lol

  • http://twitter.com/KobeAnd8 Kevin

    WOW, so you would want Kelly to perform a bitter pop song on a charity event dedicated to the people of Africa who are dying and kids are starving? If that’s the case, you should be hired as Clive Davis’ assistant. You guys would get along great together.

  • Goodvibes27

    Clive’s ruthlessness was well known long before the idol era. He deep sixed Gino Vanelli’s recording career. But I feel Clive doesn’t have enough power anymore to affect Kelly’s career. He was demoted a few years ago to nothing more than a figurehead. The most damage she might suffer from this is not being able to get into his Grammy party. But since she was at the actual Grammys singing and winning, I doubt she will be upset at a no-invite to an afterparty.

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

    Do you really think Kelly went on just for charity? She is a celebrity and ultimately is out to promote herself. I doubt her main goal was being altruistic, which is obvious by her being a brat about what song to sing. She should have went out there, sang her RECENT song, and been a professional.

  • quickjessie

     Pretty damn good song no matter what age the writer was.  Took this 59 year old woman back to her days of being abused before the second verse.  I still tear up when I hear it.

    The Hope for Haiti concert had nothing but top stars and not a one of them sang anything remotely promotional.  Charity concerts are the one venue where promoting yourself is the 100% wrong thing to do and would probably result in pretty negative backlash.  Kelly was right.  Again. 

  • http://twitter.com/KobeAnd8 Kevin

    Yes, I really think Kelly went on Idol Gives Back for the charity. The fact that she decided to sing a song for the purpose of the charity event instead of singing her own song that didn’t fit the purpose, shows that she did go there for the purpose of the charity event.

  • http://twitter.com/HighTensions Jake W.

    Go Kelly. Smack that douche.

  • Abner4President

    At this point it’s like your hatred prevents you from making any sense whatsoever.

    She should have performed a more opportunistic choice like “Never Again” because performing on Idol Gives Back is not altruistic which is proven by her not performing “Never Again” but instead something that is more appropriate for the occasion? What?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    Let’s see, after reading her comments about not wanting to promote her album on a charity show, you say didn’t go on for charity but only to promote herself.  Then you call her a brat for not singing a song that would promote her album. 

    Your argument contains no logic. 

    You clearly don’t follow Kelly, as she is a very sweet and giving person and is not all about the money and fame.

  • http://twitter.com/lufflyness Jenna

    You’re kind of losing me… Is the fact that she DIDN’T sing her recent single and chose a completely different song that she felt was more appropriate to the cause not indicative that she wasn’t out there to promote herself?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I couldn’t disagree with you more. Using a charity event to specifically promote our latest “product” IS tacky. Of course, these events have stars on to attract donations, but in the context of a charity event, singing inspirational/appropriate songs is the way to go.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

     Yes, but that’s logical and shows Kelly to be a caring person.

  • abbysee

    Seriously? Self promotion on a show promoted to giving back? Oh yeah, sounds like a self absorbed diva to me. Shut up and sing indeed! Kelly is definitely the one wearing the halo on this one.

  • abbysee

    Wow, tell Clive check received! Lol. Yes, I think it was mainly altruistic. If it were not, she would have sung the inappropriate song. There is some serious spinning here to make her selfish for doing the right thing. #teamkellyredux.

  • http://twitter.com/JoMartinezMusic Joe Martinez

    hahah she spilled the true tea!! Go Kelly you are amazing, I loved My December (bought it on release week) and kudos for standing up for yourself! #TeamKelly

  • http://twitter.com/Ricky_Rob Ricky Rob

    I think Roger Friedman is still on Clive’s payroll….or is he the one hes been dating for years? ;) http://www.showbiz411.com/2013/02/19/kelly-clarkson-still-doesnt-get-it-and-attacks-clive-daviss-memory

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ENXWTPQX7WDUGFKDMOUHAWCQMY Van

    Funny, that Clive said Max and Luke were “one of the world’s top producing teams” when Kelly had a problem with them. He really is trying to re-write history. SUBG was the first time Luke and Max ever collaborated!! That was Luke’s first single. He was still just a guitarist on Saturday Night Live when that song was released.

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

    Hatred? lol I don’t hate Kelly at all. I just find her music redundant and amateurish. Mr Know It All wasn’t that bad, though. I am just giving my opinion on the topic and see it differently than others.

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

     I did say she should kill two birds with one stone. I am sure Kelly realizes that being on any type of performing platform might result in…SALES. I don’t think that was her reason for doing it though.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7LS7KC5AHEOV5R27XD7GCWBHFU J

    Does this bring to mind “You Can’t Win”. 

    “If you’re happy, why are you so selfish?
    If you’re sad, what’s your problem?”

    Kind of like….

    “If you sing your single, you’re a selfish Diva
    If you don’t, you’re a spoiled brat”

    Kelly hit the nail on the head with that song.  Love her always seeing through people and calling it like it is.

  • heartly

    fuzzywuzzy: “He doesn’t mention how he stood up in front of his company at a convention and belittled me and my music and completely sabotaged the entire project.”

    I found this report on a message board that supports this:

    Word out of the SonyBMG Conference is that at the J-Arista Presentation, Clive announced to all attendees that Kelly Clarkson told him she no longer needs his help in finding songs for her as she will write all the tunes for her new album.Clive then proceeded to play each of her first four singles in order introducing each saying “Remember, we’re all family here and this project is worth hundreds of millions of dollars and does this sound like a Number One single to you?”From the audience, Rolf Schmidt-Holz jumped up and sent Goldstuck on-stage to stop Clive and that was the extent of the Arista presentation.

    http://www.tiwaryent.com/forum

    This post is actually what took the feud public. I used to frequent that forum before it went to crap and watched this whole thing explode once that post went up. At that time, there were many inside the industry that posted/lurked there. Right after that, Kelly had been interviewed by EW in a cover story regarding MD and they asked her about this. It wasn’t common knowledge at that point that Clive had done that so it seemed like Kelly was lashing out. It all snowballed from there and now we’re at this point.

    fuzzywuzzy:Reba is a old pro in the music business and if she says that what Kelly
    went through was “pretty heavy” and that she didn’t know that she would
    have been able to handle it, then I believe that Clive put Kelly through h*ll.

    Should be noted that the relationships are quite a bit more entangled now (too put it mildly) between Kelly and Reba but at that time, they had really just started their tight friendship and it was very much a mentorship then so she wasn’t only speaking as concerned friend.  I will always be thankful that they connected the way they did and at the time they did because I don’t think Kelly would still be doing this today if they hadn’t.

    Li Wright:Guess who’s not getting an invite to the next Pre-grammy party?

    Guess who’s not getting a wedding invite?  haha

  • fuzzywuzzy

    If you are being objective in your opinion, then I assume that you expect any artist to sing their latest single on a charity event (no matter how inappropriate to the charity), and if they don’t and choose to sing a more appropriate song, then they aren’t being a professional and are being a diva and selfish? OK, then. lol

  • http://twitter.com/KobeAnd8 Kevin

    Yes, she is a celebrity music artist and performing on any type of platform might result in sales but there are celebrities that uses their celebrity status to shine light on good causes like charity instead of just promoting themselves because those celebrities actually cares about what’s going on in the world and other people rather than just themselves. It’s called being SELFLESS because she’s trying to help others through the charity. You may not like her music but you can’t say she’s spoiled, a brat, or diva-ish for trying to do the right thing by singing a song on Idol Gives Back that actually fits the purpose of the charity event and what it is all about. The song “Never Again” had no relevance to what Idol Give Back is all about and people would’ve just said “wtf” with 1 eyebrow raised. She would’ve been criticized because it would be very obvious that she went on there for the reason to promote herself rather than to promote the cause of the event.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NDYOWBIIPZU6PBRHGOPT2ZZJXQ sweetmm

    Well Kelly managed to give free promotion to the book, I bet now more people going to read it due to curiosity.

  • http://twitter.com/ladymctech ladymctech

    Just what I always wanted to read…Clive Davis’s life story.

  • standtotheright

    She should have went out there, sang her RECENT song, and been a professional.

    Yeah, like that time that Taylor Swift sang WANEGBT on the Stand Up to Cancer benefit instead of a cowrite with a grieving mother where all the profits went to charity! Oh, wait.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    What would be the point? It’s clear that Clive has blatantly lied about Kelly and her music, and I expect that he would do the same in the rest of the book with other artists and their music, and about other aspects of his life. As expected, Clive just wants to make himself look good. Waste of time.

  • 1rollbounce2

    Alzhei-moir?  He’s a disgusting pig but I’m glad in some ways that he’s in his ivory tower throwing stones – I get to see Kelly firin’ back and that’s always a treat!

    She came to Clive without puppet strings attached and I like that in her!

  • windmills

    Currently lost in the Never Again/Idol Gives Back debate is the fact that Kelly subsequently performed Never Again at the Idol finale later that same season (the s6 finale in 2007).

    I don’t have to think Kelly was mistake-free during the My December battles to be able to a) sympathize with her state of mind at the time, b) believe she has still earned the lion’s share of the benefit of the doubt, and c) believe those battles shaped her for the better today. As far as Clive, I’m just not interested.

    mjsbigblog: Let’s not even start about how he dragged Whitney Houston back into the spotlight before she was ready.

    Yeah, that.

  • julesb2183

    If what Kelly said is true, Clive was in the wrong, but I agree that MD was by far the worst album she made. She could have compromised a bit and put some of the worse songs aside on the album (You can’t tell me that “Yeah” was so artistically important it HAD to be on the album). That might have helped her situation to put one or two label sanctioned hits on the record, especially since Breakaway was so successful. 

  • CB40

    God I love Kelly and always will appreciate her HONESTY.

  • Incipit

    It’s not so much that Clive forgets the facts and misremembers, and it’s not so much that he lies, which he does.

    It’s the fact that he mis-remembers the facts into a whole new story because he forgets the lies he previously told, that make the unverified “Memoirs” a waste of time. 

    I really hope Kelly just ignores any further comment. Her position is clearly stated, and her story hasn’t changed. IMO.

  • HighOnElliott

    Besides the fact that Kelly can sing literally anything (and live, no less), I think my absolute favorite thing about her is that she isn’t a FemBot……She’s got stellar natural ability that isn’t manufactured on the assembly line, and deals with the media as a human, and not a programmed machine….. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/maribassig Mari Bassig

    This feud sort of reminds me of the powerplay between Motolla and Mariah Carey in the 90’s with the former also sabotaging the latter. These old record execs will really do anything to bring anyone down so I am a bit worried for Kelly. But I also doubt Davis would still have enough clout in the music industry to bring Kelly down especially after a successful past two years with Stronger. She has a good ground to once again prove Davis wrong. 

  • heartly

    With her coming out and saying that his recollection of some of these
    events that occurred don’t exact jive with hers, I wonder how many other
    things in the book aren’t exactly factually sound? I’m not going to give the man any of my money, but it does make me wonder. I also wonder if there’s a chapter on Hall & Oates in there? Daryl Hall also had a major run-in with Clive back in the day and he walked away and they were released.

    I’ve been observing something interesting on the internet today, not many are coming out with support on Clive’s side (so far) outside of Roger Friedman who claims Kelly still doesn’t get it except he’s not understanding what Kelly was getting at today but, I digress… there have been many voicing support for Kelly. Clive has had many successes but he’s also crossed a lot of people in his time, yet not many have stood up and voiced it. Kelly has and I think there are a lot in the industry that are applauding her for doing this, it takes guts to speak up against someone that has held the power he has. Several of these people have had run-ins with the man themselves and I bet they wished they had a platform at the time to say something.

    On a sidenote, I’d hate to be her publicist and manager today. But I would’ve loved to have seen her phone and the messages she received.  lol

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/F7VXHJVKHMRZ7GGUJOZXBAXZ3I matthew t

    Celebrity? What celebrity antics has this woman shown? The only times I’ve seen any controversy about her was in 2007, when this debacle began, Halo vs. Already Gone, and right now with Clive smearing and changing his tune to what actually happened. All incidents are music related. You never hear her with diva-like antics and making outlandish demands. You never see her at the Hollywood hotspots. She stays in Nashville and/or Texas (I can’t remember). If she was out to promote herself, she would have. Her label apparently gave her the go so if she was truly out to promote herself on the show that jumpstarted her career, she could have. But she didn’t! She sang a rousing rendition of Up To The Mountain, which arguably put the song on the map and probably did more to help the charity than her single would have ever done. It doesn’t make sense that you’re arguing that she is out to promote herself and yet she didn’t.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “With her coming out and saying that his recollection of some of these events that occurred don’t exact jive with hers, I wonder how many other things in the book aren’t exactly factually sound?”

    Exactly. If Clive’s recounting of Kelly’s events are so off, then I suspect that his “recollection” of other events and artists is also similarly off.

    Incipit wrote:

    “It’s not so much that Clive forgets the facts and misremembers, and it’s not so much that he lies, which he does.

    It’s the fact that he mis-remembers the facts into a whole new story because he forgets the lies he previously told, that make the unverified “Memoirs” a waste of time. ”

    Yep. A person has to be really smart to be a great liar, because you have to remember all of the lies that you’ve told to whom and when. Most charitably, Clive probably “remembers” a lot of events (not just Kelly’s) very differently from how they really happened (despite having 5 “independent individuals” verify his every move lol ).

  • Jae

    #teamkelly!

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    Clive never liked Taylor Hicks. They never got along and clashed while making the album. So Clive decided to release Taylor’s album without an advance single or promoting any single to radio

    I remember hearing about it at the time.  American Idol and Clive David never gave Taylor Hicks the respect he deserved.  His sales would have been higher if a single was released and the album promoted.  What a jerk.

    #Team Kelly

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    Kelly handled this situation well.  She has viewed her opinion of what Clive wrote, now it is time to move on.

    I am curious to know what he said about Janis Joplin who isn’t here to disagree.

  • suenigma

    I agree that what Clive and Idol did to Taylor was appalling, and what he did to Bo Bice’s career (who he liked!) was even worse.

  • Incipit

     I also wonder if there’s a chapter on Hall & Oates in there? Daryl Hall also had a major run-in with Clive back in the day and he walked away and they were released.

    I’m wondering if there is a chapter, or even a mention of Milli Vanilli, heartly, that whole fiasco. Not that I wouldn’t expect it to be Spin City, if there were one, but perhaps the Teflon is wearing off the Dark Lord?

    So many of these incidents that involved run-ins are from “back in the day” – no wonder it’s the re-smear of Kelly he went for to get relevant publicity for his book. She’s in the news right now. He doesn’t need the money – he’s looking for a Permanent Record that slants in his favor, I’m thinking. Was it Kirsten or Windmills who said “Mary Sue”??

    Cracked me right up – The Dark Lord of the Sith sees himself as a Mary Sue – Robbie Burns was so right. Heh.

    Ah well, there goes his wedding invitation. Heh. , because I doubt his name was ever near the guest list, even before he started spinning his story. IMO. Of Course.

  • CB40

    Kelly is too far along in her amazing 10-year, 5-album, perform for the President career for anything like this to bring her down.

  • irockhard

    Worth noting: While Clarkson says that after “Never Again,” there were no more singles released off that album, and Davis says there were three more — neither statement is a correct. “Sober” was the second and only other U.S. single, charting at No. 110.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/idol-worship/kelly-clarkson-slams-clive-davis-422397

    This is probably a matter of semantics but IMO there’s a difference between releasing a song and releasing a single. Sober was released and sent to radio but it was not supported, they just threw it out there and let it die.

  • ANNIEBA

    A little late to this, but good for Kelly for putting her side out there! I love her spunk and honesty!

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    Publicity stunt.