James Durbin Kicks Off Tour at the Viper Room (VIDEO)

After performing at the American Idol results show Thursday night, Season 10 alum, James Durbin, headed over to the Viper Room to kick off his tour in support of the rocker’s debut album, Memories of a Beautiful Disaster.

Check out James performing his latest single, “Higher Than Heaven”.

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  • Anonymous

    Great tour kick-off for James. The Idol performance rawwwwwked. I’m glad he brought out the vodaphpone (did I spell that right) to give his voice that metal edge. His Memories of a Beautiful Disaster shot up to #5 on itunes rock and remains there today and Higher Than Heaven also shot up to the top #5 for rock songs and remains there. The prior night he presented at the Revolver Golden God awards and got major props from artists in his chosen genre. Good for him.

  • http://twitter.com/CanadianLady2 CanadianLady

    Good choice for his next single. 

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR5SLj4_ykw How to Improve Vision

    Great performance!

  • http://twitter.com/ceresmwa Mónica Werner

    Great performance by James, the presentation was pure fun rock, a lot of energy, I like how it interacts with his fans, this girl has a great future is to continue supporting him. But the sound was not up to the artist.

  • Anonymous

    LULZ roarpen!  Vodaphone is a european mobile service provider :P  I think you meant vocoder :)  But yes, great kick off to the tour.  I stayed up til 3 AM watching the live feed.  Sure was not an “Idol” type performance – it rocked for real.  Loved the Idol performance too BTW.  The imagery created by the entrance on Idol is pure genius.  Based on some of the comments on the performance, seems it escaped a lot of people lol. Wish I could claim I discovered it but I didn’t.  However, once pointed out it was sooo obvious.  James is one talented and creative dude.  Love him and MOABD!

  • Anonymous

    Doesn’t seem much of a kick off with a small 250 audience.

  • http://twitter.com/LisaDavis46 Lisa Davis

    This tour of James Durbin is now kicked into high gear, performing Higher Than Heaven kick started what was already a great album Memories Of A Beautiful Disaster out more to the consciousness of the music listener. In the Viper Room James had the audience in his the palm of his much like he did the American Idol audience and although I wasn’t there I watched it on tv  and I could hear the screams of the crowd as he brought killer vocals and a stage that only enhanced the song itself. Knowing he was singing it for his wife Heidi and that she was there in the audience made the singing of Higher Than Heaven all that much sweeter. 

  • Anonymous

    I don’t usually like this style of music, but I love this song.  I wasn’t a fan of James’ last season, I thought that he was a poseur, because the hot ac style of songs seemed to fit him better, and he came off as someone who had studied AI very well, and was doing everything he could to advance.  But, I have to admit that his album is believable.  The songs suit him, and they sound like the type of music that he should be making.  

    I’m glad that he was able to follow his passion, and didn’t sell out, and become the type of artist that Jimmy Iovine or I thought that he was.

  • Anonymous

    LMAO – vocoder!! OK, dummy here does not know the meaning of the imagery.
    ETA – I get the white tunnel of light to heaven part, but was there an additional meaning with the kabuki drop?

  • Anonymous

    I think that’s the break through – the final crossing over the threshold :)  Kind of like the transition from Idol to metal :)

  • Anonymous

    Took a couple of songs for him and his band to warm up but once they did, wow! I’m really impressed with Tyler and Blake, I hope he can keep this group together for a long time.  ‘Liberate’ to me is even better than ‘Higher Than Heaven’ and he did a really good job on ‘Back For More’, you know, all those great bonus songs that I have no idea were not on the regular album.

  • Anonymous

     I’m kind of a literal person – thanks for the interpretation. I do believe you are right. Miss densehead here needs a little help sometimes – LMAO!
    Very cool imagery now that you have straightened me out. Heaven, crossing the threshold – I like it!

  • steph6449

    Still getting used to the new look for James. I like it better than the floppy/spiky hair with bandana thing-y he had on Idol, but it is a big change — almost hard to recognize him.  

    I tuned in on AI last week to the last part of his song. It wasn’t until he was done and Ryan spoke to him by name that I realized it was James, lol.

  • Anonymous

    Hey, I didn’t get the light and heaven part (that was pointed out) but was able to come up with the threshold – what does that say other than I miss the obvious lol.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    Here’s a playlist of the entire set list from the Viper Room:

    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFE608A14345C5972&feature=plcp

  • http://twitter.com/Durbin8r Nancy?Revelle

    I WAS THERE – you can actually see me in the camera pan. This whole set SERIOUSLY ROCKED!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    James is on his way to fullfilling all of his dreams-I am so excited for him.
    Great interview with the hollywood reporter-Idol hangover on another post
    he was so relax and so appreciative of all his success also talked about being on idol & talking to the contestants-having a blast-loving life! 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    I wasn’t surprised they took a while to warm up, due to all those radio gigs where James could only take Dylan and Blake with him they haven’t had much time to practice as a band, but they still sound amazing together. We’ll see how the rest of the tour goes, but those guys once they have gelled and have written their own stuff have the potential to kick major ass.

  • Anonymous

    The warm up was really just technical stuff, a little feedback, that’s a tough room acoustically, but they worked it out and destroyed the set.   The groundswell is there for James and his guys right now, thanks to his Idol appearance and a few other happenings. 

  • Anonymous

    Not fan of James music , but i like that he really put in the market what he promised on the show , is not like happen too often , specially with the idol rockers. so best wishes for him. :)

  • Anonymous

    James you go with your bad self. I love all this excitement.

  • justmefornow

    I’ve watched all the Viper Room videos, and GOD how I wish I was there!!
    I’ve seen James live twice. Once on the tour and once at one of those acoustic radio promo performances. But I can’t wait to see the whole band live!!
     
    I really think if anyone can break the Idol stigma and make it in the rock/metal world, my money is on James. He’s the real deal.

    Good luck on the tour, boys. I hope to see you again at one of the stops near me.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks, tibitibis,

    Just wanted to say how much I appreciate what you said. :)

  • Anonymous

    Love this tweet. :)

    Archer Nation ? @ArcherNation
    Ladies & gentleman, the Rolling Stones.

    http://pic.twitter.com/OpeYz680

  • Anonymous

    I love James’ and the guys in the band’s sense of humor.  They can be really funny guys sometimes and they keep a sense of humor about themselves too, instead of taking everything so seriously.  They are the first to poke fun at themselves and each other and seem like such good friends and like they are just having a blast with the whole thing.

    Also…I thought it was really funny when James said in the one interview that now that his album sold 100,000 copies it’s certified aluminum.  It made me laugh.  Leave it to James.

  • Anonymous

     I missed him saying that his album was certified aluminum – LULZ. Oh James, never change. I love the self-deprecating sense of humor that he and his bandmates have.

    He and the guys are totally going about everything the right way now. They blasted their raaaawk music on Idol, not some HAC song. They are paying their dues touring as a back-up band. And lucky them, that van is not an expensive tour bus but it’s a Cadillac compared to how most new rock bands tour. As much as his fans think that James deserves a platinum album right now, it would only cause backlash in his genre. He has to work his way up, and he has to write songs with his band, which they will undoubtedly do on tour. I can’t wait to hear about the summer tour and hope they come my way. In the meantime, there go the rolling stones – lol!

    PS – Oh how I wish the camera had panned to Steven Tyler during James’ Idol performance so we could see the faces he was making at James to crack him up. I would pay for that!!

  • http://twitter.com/ladymctech ladymctech

    I wasn’t a big fan of James during his Idol run, but I have to admit that I enjoyed his Idol performance last week and really like the video from the Viper Room. It’s good to see him enjoying success.

  • Anonymous

    This is high school level of performing and utter amateurism. Apologies to all amazing and real talented high school bands.

  • shamrock

    I missed him saying that his album was certified aluminum – LULZ. Oh
    James, never change. I love the self-deprecating sense of humor that he
    and his bandmates have.

    I love his sense of humour, too, though not everybody seems to get it all the time. ;)

    I had to think at the bing lounge where he said, that with his previous they never really had an audience to play to, so he never realized how much he liked talking to/with the crowd. And in the interview with Shirley (or was it another from these days), he said the bing set was supposed to be 20 minutes and got to be over an hour because he couldn’t stop talking. ROTFL

    At the moment I am watching the Viper room videos – I love how James always puts so much energy into his performances and give 100 % no matter if he plays for 250 people, or a 20 Mio. TV audience.

    I am so excited for them to hit the road, they will have so much fun and just become better and better.

    Btw. despite dropping some places, I think he holds still remarkably well on itunes almost 2 days later – MOAB 30 overall, HTH 204 overall (don’t know how to call up only the rock charts), on amazon he is 43 overall, 33 in rock and 15 in alt rock – go James!!!!!! O/

    ETA:
    James has found a new way to “avoid” LMB, he lets the audience sing it. ROTFL

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Frances-Hamilton/100000713861178 Frances Hamilton

    I am sooo proud of James and just love his rocking, super-talented new band boys!  They are having a great time with James living all of their dreams.  I heard Steven Tyler say in an interview that playing the small gigs around the country is the way to hone your craft in the metal music world , build a solid fan base and that is exactly what James is doing!  Anyone that has seen him live is immediately captivated by his awesome talent and stage presence and at how nice and genuine he and all of the members of the band are!!  I wish them great success on their first tour!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    LOL I don’t recall any high school bands sharing a stage with Judas Priest & Zakk Wylde or touring with Black Label Society or playing at Ozzfest or opening for Poison.

  • justmefornow

    itunes right now:
    Album and single are both at #5 in Rock
    Album overall, up slightly to #29

  • justmefornow

    I like James’ band combined pedigree:)

  • Anonymous

    LULZ – and how many hs bands are certified aluminum?

    OK let’s get this straight, guitarist Dylan has done a couple European tours with Zakk Wylde and Black Label Society, Blake (rhythm guitarist) and drummer Jeff played Ozzfest with In This Moment. Did they open for Poison too? Or did Ty Molinaro open for Poison with Dirty Penny? If I had a decent memory I could recall what guitar maker Dylan’s father owns/and or is president of. But with that pedigree he was likely playing guitar while he was still in diapers. (interesting visual) It’s perfect that they are such close home town friends and are now touring together. I’ve read that Dylan’s father provided scholarships for James to attend music programs. Nice story of friendship and a full circle moment for their friendship as it’s James that is providing the music education right now!

    One thing for sure, that band really raaawked.

  • http://twitter.com/MoriaPolonius Moria Polonius

    He really can’t sing live.

    Pity, because Higher Than Heaven from the CD is a pretty great song.

  • Anonymous

     Yes, it is a great song, and he really sings it great LIVE.

  • Anonymous

    Dylan’s father is a big shot (not sure of his title) at Epiphone Guitars. Or do they make amps, I’m not sure.  Dylan tweeted a congratulations to his dad a few days ago for his 20th anniversary with the company.

  • justmefornow

    Dirty Penny opened for Poison and Dylan’s father is a big wig at Epiphone, (not sure if he’s president or owner).

    Oh, and not everyone can appreciate live, raw, visceral rock, just saying.

  • justmefornow

    Epiphone makes guitars.
    My son has an Epiphone Gibson. It really Rocks! :)

  • justmefornow

    Oh, and speaking of live versions, I think I like this one the best from Thurs. night.
    You can actually see the beginnings of a rock star….
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMWGmwnLt7Q..

  • http://twitter.com/Loretta31 Loretta

    Loved James on Idol. (except for the blond hair) These Viper Room Videos are also really good.  James is certainly enjoying himself. 

  • Anonymous

    I wish the best for James.  I will never regret my support of him during his season.  He’s not perfect, but few are perfect vocalists.  Rock on James!!!

  • Anonymous

    I definitely think James should go back to having brown hair.  It suits him better. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/masewallace Mase Wallace

    if jimmy got his hands on james he’d have tryed to turn him into some daughtry tribute act or word nerd lite,good for james on sticking to his guns,practically giving jimmy the finger

  • justmefornow

    You are 100% correct. He might have sold more albums out of the gate with Jimmy and Interscope, but he never would have been happy pretending to be something he’s not.
    It takes a lot of guts to what he did.
    Not many would have.

  • Anonymous

    LOL!  Idiot Jimmy would have turned James into a lite-rock w/hip-hop complete poseur clown (or maybe even adult contemporary).  Dude is ego-maniacal, thinks he’s the last word on music, that’s why I can’t watch Idol anymore.

    And justformenow, James will get the last laugh, he’s totally in his element with metal and is likely going to have a long career because of it.  How many Idols now have peaked and are on the downside of their sales and popularity?  Mostly because of the poor direction given them.

  • DragonFly

    Taken from an article about The Viper Room performance:   Shrills of excitement rippled through the crowd at the Viper Room in Hollywood, Calif. as soon as the crowd feasted its eyes upon American Idol season 10 finalist James Durbin. Mere hours after performing on the show that made him a household name, he popped into the venue nonchalantly and under the velvet curtain to set up for the first show of his two-month tour. And what a rocking kck-off it was……. Next paragraph states “the capacity for the place was 250″.
    Shrills of excitement rippled through the crowd at the Viper Room in Hollywood, Calif. as soon as the crowd feasted its eyes upon American Idol season 10 finalist James Durbin. Mere hours after performing on the show that made him a household name, he popped into the venue nonchalantly and under the velvet curtain to set up for the first show of his two-month tour. And what a rocking kck-off it was.
    …… Next paragraph states “the capacity for the place was 250″.

    –with all James events last week (AI alone) doing another set somewhere else in addition that same night imo was probably stressful enough–commendable & amazing. 

  • Anonymous

    I haven’t really liked what I saw of James previously, but I like this and his Idol performance. The song is pretty good too.

  • Anonymous

     Well, his label gave it a try to with LMB as the lead single. I’m so glad he got to sing HTH on Idol. It was so authentically him.

  • shamrock

    I just love this song, and James kills it everytime. O/

    Don’t get me wrong, I am happy that HTH hopefully will be his next single, as it much more current (and seeing the push it got by his AI performane, it seems there were quite some people starving for a piece of organic real rock with guitar riffs, drums and killer vocals), but I just love the thowback vibe of LIR and James’ vocals really shine on it.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XDQP2Y46M5B3OHOKALDDGDHQCM Leandro

    The performance was pretty good, considering it was more like an intimate performance, almost early garage (he was playing without inner ears and probably couldn’t hear anything ). He can pass a lot of energy for the audience and in a rock perofrmance it’s almost as important as perfect pitch.

    For people who say he can’t sing, better watch Amy Lee’s (Evanescence) performance in the Golden Gods Awards, minutes before she won the prize of best rock vocalist – 15 minutes of a complete trainwreck out of tune performance.He’s missing the high notes and he needs to sing more relaxed, otherwise he’ll lose his voice soon. A good vocal coach for one year would help him a lot. Plus, don’t they have roadies? others fans can tell me?

  • shamrock

    No James is not perfect (in many ways, he is still a raw diamond, but IMO he is the real deal, and I hope Wind-Up realizes what gem they have snatched with James), but he will only get better with time and experience (and even seasoned pros have clunker notes every now and then). Remerber, except for the Idol tour and the “accoustic thunder” ;) he has no touring experience.

    But he has proven time and again that he is a fast learner, just think of his first steps promoting LMB and MOAB, how arkward he was at interviews and how rusty his vocals and how relaxed he’s become and lets shine his personality in spoken and singing voice. That brings me back to RBY of the Shirley-Halperin-Interview, I am still so enamored by this rendition <3, and as much as I love hard-rocking energetic James, I hope he will always find opportunities in the future to show his vulnerable side and pure vocals.

    I was so mad at Shirley for the Colton-incident interview (though I still stand by the opinion that James shouldn't have given the first place) but now I am almost enclined to forgive her. ;) Btw. do you rememder the tweet of James where he claimed he said things differently that got deleted later? Okay, I don't have any proof, ist just speculation on my part, but I believe it wasn't deleted because James was wrong claiming that he was misquoted/misinterpreted but that his management thought it's not worth to get on Shirley's bad side…

    Ontunes overall, he's still in 32. YAY! (waiting for justfornow's rock update ;)). And on twitter he gathered in total over 2'000 new followers in the day before an two days after the AI performance.

    Speaking of twitter (from the twitter party the day before Idol):

    One showing his sweet side:
    Stephen Louthan
    ?
    @SMLouthan

    JAMES…on a side note…My nephew, Cole Kwapich STILL considers you his Idol and talks about you ALL the time and MISSES you

    James Durbin
    ?
    @DurbinRock@SMLouthan Yeah! I miss Cole too!! Did he get our Christmas presents???(Cole is the little boy from the "Make a wish" foundation who was with James during Idol's movie week)And one his humour:M e G a N JLOVE!R
    ?
    @JLOved4ever  Will you perform on idol maybe?

    James Durbin
    ?
    @DurbinRock

    @JLOved4ever Maybe tomorrow! But only because you asked so politely!ROTFLOkay, I stop rambling now…. :sneaks out:

  • shamrock

    The performance was pretty good, considering it was more like an
    intimate performance, almost early garage (he was playing without inner
    ears and probably couldn’t hear anything ). He conveys great energy for
    the audience and in a rock perofrmance it’s almost as important as
    perfect pitch.

    Yes, he said in the Shirley-interview the next day, that he couldn’t hear himself, and they had no time for a soundcheck, they came from idol, set up their instrument and basically started playing. He loved the raw energy of it.

    And he really has the audience in his pawn. He is so enganged with them and they with him, when you think of LBM, just hearing it, it’s a complete trainwreck, but I bet everybody being live there probably had the time of their life because during ist, because it was so much fun.

    He’s missing the high notes and he needs to sing more relaxed, otherwise
    he’ll lose his voice soon. A good vocal coach for one year would help
    him a lot.

    Does anybody know if he’s been taking lessons? I would favour it, there is no shame in it. I just wonder because he became so much better in the accoustic sessions over the last 5 months, either he is a good autoditact or he found a good tutor. Of course, he now needs some “ajustments” to go back to his true love, full-electric.

  • Anonymous

    Not understanding the complaints about Durbin’s pitch, watching the live feed, which had much better audio but lousy visual, I didn’t detect many pitch problems.  People that record Durbin with camera phones close up don’t do him any favors, in this case, the camera phone’s mic was constantly getting saturated, that’s what happens when you’re just a few feet away from the sound source.  There are dozens of videos on u-tube that are nicely recorded and James sounds in perfect pitch.  Not saying a little vocal coaching won’t help him though, but experience is what counts the most, by the end of year, he’ll have a great sense of his limitations and capabilities.  Vocally though, he ranges everywhere and takes a lot of risks, which is a quality that sets him apart.  It’s metal too, not the opera, so people shouldn’t stress so much about it.  I saw a video of Sammy Hagar singing ‘Heavy Metal’ and it was horribly pitchy, James sang it so much better.

  • http://twitter.com/HaleysShindig HaleysShindig

    EH, Haley wrote 13 of 14 songs and had complete creative control of her album. The “Interscope” woulda made James be something he is not” is a dead and tired meme. She has a Rock song, a Reggae song and a Psycadelic-Funk song all coming out on her Album, designed her own video and had input on every part of this roll-out. The truth is he and Jimmy couldn’t get along, more of a personality conflict than an Artistic direction conflict IMO. 
    Wind-up is a good label for him, be happy with that, but the excuse needs to stop in light of the evidence now available, IMO.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F3XJE5GRAUMYR7Y5RYZUW7SC4U md

    Good for James. Though I think the best he can hope for is more appearances like this:  http://stubbsaustin.com/events/evanescence/

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    LOL in my experience no one cares about pitch as much as the Idol bubble.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JKPGOWSHLKLHHRL7DORPZXZ2NI Valarie

    That is not such a bad thing.  When I saw that James and Evanescence would be playing at Stubbs BBQ.  I had flashbacks to the ‘Roadhouse’ movie with Jeff Healy behind a chain link beer bottle catching screen. 

    A little Googling replaced that image with one of a remodeled and expanded modern concert venue with a standing capacity of 4,000.  It also serves late night food (hence the bbq in the name). 

    So, if that is the best that James can do until he gets a radio hit, I am more than OK with that.

  • justmefornow

    I love that James is opening for Evanescence on Tues. Their new CD is amazing! I couldn’t care less where it is. I’m hoping someone posts video of this performance too!

    Oh and Shamrock, sorry it’s late ;), but right now on itunes MOABD is still #5 in Rock and Higher Than Heaven is at #10 in Rock. Pretty good.

  • Anonymous

    Um ya. Out of pitch singing physically hurts my head, so I don’t like to listen to it. Even if I know that there can be several reasons for pitch problems. I’m a great lover of rock wails, one of my favorite songs is Child in Time by Deep Purple (not much known in America, but their best known song in Europe) and it consists purely from wails. It’s not a deep song ;)
    If I would hear that song live out of pitch, I can assure you I would walk out.

    This extents to any type of singing, could be in church. I once saw a show of someone who is always perfectly on pitch; he sang a song off pitch, and it was terrible. (Nobody seems to remember, but unfortunately I can’t forget!)

    Anyway, I like James’ CD, and the songs sound great, but I don’t think I’ll go to a live show.

  • http://twitter.com/CanadianLady2 CanadianLady

    You sound like my husband. He goes crazy with even a tiny little pitch problem. Drives me crazy. And by the way, he says Hollie does have pitch issues. I wouldn’t know. I can catch the obvious ones, but not the subtle ones. (On the other hand, I didn’t used to be able to watch Taylor Swift sing on TV. I think she’s improved.) I did catch the messed-up scream at the end on Idol – more out of breath than anything, I think.

  • Anonymous

    lol, yes, if I were a judge, in many cases I would not have a problem finding something to criticize. It’s a visceral reaction, and I physically cringe if I hear pitchyness. And since I’m also a singer, I might walk out on myself sometimes as well!

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like a fun place to me – the concerts are usually held outside I believe, no seats, standing room only up to 4,000 people. Evanescence is a great rock band and a label mate, and James and fans are thrilled he’s opening for them.

    Oh, and I hear the bbq inside is fantastic! :)

  • Anonymous

    Here’s a link to Child in Time 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OorZcOzNcgE I just said it’s not known much in America, so it would be handy to see/hear what I’m talking about. 
    The audience is interesting.

  • http://twitter.com/HaleysShindig HaleysShindig

    Have to agree, thats a pretty killer gig and if he is doing gigs with Evanescence, the sky is the limit with the venue they can play at. 

  • shamrock

     

    EH, Haley wrote 13 of 14 songs and had complete creative control of her
    album. The “Interscope woulda made James be something he is not” is a
    dead and tired meme.

    The truth is, IMO, he and Jimmy couldn’t get along, more of a
    personality conflict than an Artistic direction conflict IMO.

    Great for Haley, I wish her well, as I like her.

    It’s always easy (or at least easier ;)) to give someone creative
    control if you agree uppon the general direction. With the success of
    singers like Amy Winehouse and Adele, Jimmy seems to believe that with
    retro-soul money can be made.

    He didn’t believe in James’ favourte genre, for him metal was dead and
    buried and should remain as such. He was a fan of James’ voice but not
    of his direction.

    If he was right or wrong with one or both or none remains to be seen.

    Of course, we don’t know with absolute certainty but there were very
    strong indications that James was supposed to be signed by Interscope
    (reserved urls, before the tour rehearsals, James was in L.A. a couple
    of days earlier than the other Idols, James enthusiastically announcing
    big news via twitter never to come, etc.). So after working with him for
    almost 3 months during Idol, Jimmy seemed to have been thinking, they
    could get along well enough to offer him a record deal.

    And then something must have happened during these (final) negotiations.
    And for me the most believable is, that they couldn’t agree uppon the
    artistic direction. Maybe James should have just signed the dotted line
    and then started fighting, but we all know that dipomacy is not James’
    strongest suit. ;)

    Well, in the end, it’s all water under the brigde, James has signed with
    Wind-Up, he seems to be happy and it seems to be a good fit. I am not
    saying he didn’t have to (learn to) comprimise, but they seem to have
    offered him enough in return like being able to choose metal guys as his
    bandmembers, touring with hardrock bands etc. to satisfy him.

    The real test IMO of how supportive they are, will come when MOAB is
    nearing the end of its circle. Are they happy with the sales-numbers so
    far? Will he be given a second album? Are they interested in a long-term
    but slow(er) success or just in the quick buck? Are they ready to
    support and introduce him as a new artist trying to make a dent in the
    (hard)rock world?

    The answer is, I don’t know (yet), but I see the chances as higher than with a label like Interscope.

  • Trina

    I agree with so much of this. The funny thing is he really didnt even make a metal album. James was saying post AI the album would sound like Hardcore Superstar. Since Interscope contacted Howard Benson about James during the season I strongly suspect HB would have been his producer anyway and the sound wouldnt have been all that different. I think Wind-up is a good label so it doesnt make a difference now anyway, but IMO they messed up by making the mediocre LMB his first single.

  • justmefornow

    Thanks for link. I loved the vocals and yes that would be painful out of tune. 
    Oh and yeah, I see what you mean about the audience. lol. 

  • justmefornow

    I agree the album isn’t metal. I think they wanted to appeal to such a wide audience, Idol fans to rock/metal fans so they included all types of songs. But that in a way is why the album is so great, everything sounds different and his voice is amazing on all of it.

    If he’s writing now with this band, who btw I don’t think he would have had with Interscope, this one is going to be a lot heavier and more true to the artist he is.

    I hope he’s able to get it out towards the end of the year like he mentioned.

  • Anonymous

    Shamrock, I couldn’t agree more with your post.  I will correct 1 point however.  The URLs are reserved for all the finalists at the outset but they are held by 19E.  Scotty, Lauren, James and Haley’s were TRANSFERRED FROM 19 TO UMG immediately after the finale.  Pia’s URL was only transferred near the end of June.  I infer from this that Pia was officially signed when James fell through, could be wrong but the interpretation fits.

    Jimmy was anything BUT supportive of James’ desire to do any metal, even a metal lite song like “Heavy Metal”.  He said in the pre-package of “Uprising” that James is “more than that metal guy”.  To me, that sounds somewhat condescending and definitely disapproving of the genre.  So no, James was not going to get even a hard rock career, much less metal, from Jimmy IMO. And just to be clear, while I like all kinds of rock, most metal is not my thing, especially the screeching screamo stuff.  I still like to hear the words and understand them lol.  Jimmy was going to sign James, of that there is no doubt in my mind.  They could not agree on direction:  That was the only “out” James had available that I have been able to find in the Idol contract.  

    MOABD is accessible to the more mainstream but the material can be amped up big time, as James and the “Outcast Army” or “Electric Thunder” have done in their gigs so far.  That’s the genius of MOABD.  Many songs can go different ways: acoustic, rock, metal.  

    James is doing what makes him happy.  Maybe he’ll never have a platinum record like Scotty but I don’t get the sense that’s important to him.  He’s making a living doing what he loves in the genre he loves, with guys he truly enjoys.  Speaking of the guys … wonder when the band will get a name.  I kinda like James and the Outcast Army or James and Electric Thunder :P

  • Anonymous

    “And just to be clear, while I like all kinds of rock, most metal is not my thing, especially the screeching screamo stuff.  I still like to hear the words and understand them lol.”
    Thanks Kat, that describes me to a tee, and will clarify my previous posts ;) 

  • Anonymous

    Acoustic Thunder is what James called Blake and Dylan (tongue-in-cheek) when they did the radio tour. So, some ace blogger fan of his with a great sense of humor dubbed the whole band Electric Thunder. The Outcast Army is the fans moniker. James seems to have picked up on that moniker as he is calling fans his #outcastarmy lately.

  • Anonymous

    I agree that Jimmy was going to sign James, because after the show – around June – James kept hinting that they were close to signing a deal on a record contract, and he seemed really happy.  And then suddenly something went wrong with that deal.  He said in interviews later after signing with Wind Up that things were going really good, then took a turn for the worse, then everything worked out great when he signed with Wind Up.  At the time, I thought maybe it was because Jimmy did not want James’ friends in his band, and James had promised Dylan the spot of lead guitarist.  We all know what happened with Chris Daughtry when his record label made him hire a whole new band, and I know James would never do that to Dylan because he is his best friend.

  • Anonymous

    Lol, yes I know but they would still make great names for the band, don’t you think.  Better than “the band” right?

  • justmefornow

    Great post Kat. I agree with everything. That Pia timeline is also spot on. His performance time was cut on the tour and Pia was pimped beyond ridiculous!
    Imagine how he must have felt through the entire time. Ugh!

    Anyway, water under the bridge. He’s doing what makes him happy, that’s all that matters now.

    And my vote is for “Outcast Army” ;) 

  • Anonymous

    Absolutely. I think I would dub them “The Outcasts” and call his fans the Outcastarmy. James and Dylan, are you reading mjs today? What do you think? I think it is a riot that they know the usernames of their fans on this blog. I do have to thank mj for posting about James and allowing us a place to comment. I don’t always like what other posters say about James, but I have learned finally how to take it all with a grain of salt.

    Big grats are in order for both Kris Allen and Haley I understand. Great news that they have both entered the top 50 on HAC – Woot Woot! I think Kris is #49 and Haley is #50.

  • justmefornow

    I think you may be right about the disagreement on band members. I love James’ loyality and sticking to convictions. Very admirable qualities.

    I really hope Jimmy saw that performance Thursday night and heard Dylan shredding like a maniac. lol

  • Anonymous

    Dylan is an excellent guitarist.  I mean, seriously good.  I don’t even think he’s truly gotten a chance to show the world what he can do yet.

  • justmefornow

    I agree. They cut his solo in half for time on Thursday, but even that short solo shows he’s a beast!
    I’m so looking forward to the new stuff these guys write!

  • Anonymous

    Well I didn’t mean for that to sound like a put down to Chris Daughtry at all – it’s a huge difference between playing in a band with some guys, and your best friend.  As far as I know, Chris Daughtry wasn’t best friends with the guys in his original band like James is with Dylan.  It would take a real jerk to turn on your very best friend for your own success, but I don’t think that was the case with Chris.

  • DragonFly

    James takes big chances with most of his music–hitting the wails 100% of the time is highly unlikely.  As some point out many lip sync to a recording for a reason–they may get criticized for doing it that way but they don’t get reviewed (& over-reviewed) for their live performances either.   He took chances with his songs on Idol competition–like to see alot of contestants (past & present) go for those notes.  And yes, some may have, & hit them ALL the time (no examples please) but James performs alot so finding an offnote is more probable.  He’s likely disappointed his voice cracked also but MANY/most of his songs find him going for the difficult notes. 

  • Anonymous

    True enough, except that what sticks in my craw is that James was denied joining “Archer”, Dylan’s band.  I guess Dylan couldn’t get the others to agree to it but still … used to bug me.  But James has his own band now so meh, water under the bridge – Dylan is a great addition to the band.

  • justmefornow

    Sorry, I wasn’t implying anything about Chris. All I was saying is James probably would have more say about choosing his band mates on a Rock Indie label. Jimmy would probably have not approved of this bunch of metal guys James seems to love.

    Poor Chris though, aren’t some of his old guys suing him though now?

  • Anonymous

     

    ames is doing what makes him happy.  Maybe he’ll never have a platinum
    record like Scotty but I don’t get the sense that’s important to him. 

    He’s pretty proud to have an ‘aluminum’ record with MOABD. LOL

  • Anonymous

    Yes they are, and I guess that’s the danger of going off in your own direction once fame hits.  I’m sure his original band members must have thought that they would be working with Chris after the show, even if Chris never promised them that, they probably assumed it.  Sad for them and for Chris.  I feel like Chris was pressured into doing that.  It’s so hard for unknown musicians and singers to even get noticed in the music business, let alone to get their big break.  Those guys missed out on their big break I guess.  Stupid record labels! 

  • Anonymous

    First let me say I am a huge Idol fan and watched all 10 seasons and Season 10 is my favorite as each contestant was quite unique and different and I loved them all. Tour was awesome as well and James sure did shine on tour as he was definitely in his element.  I enjoy his CD and have watched his accoustic performances via youtube and this site for the past several months. I must admit, I wasn’t too excited by his singing with the accoustic performances except maybe the Bing Lounge performance.

    While vacationing last month in Florida, I heard on the radio that James was appearing in Ft. Myers at the Stillwater Grille for an accoustic performance radio gig.  I decided to stop by the next day to take a listen as reservations and tickets were not needed.  I arrived early to get a good seat and really didn’t know what to expect.  The restaurant is not entirely closed in as there is an open patio area attached.  I was worried about how the sound would be and actually didn’t know what to expect live.  The radio DJ also said that James was feeling a bit better from his bout with food poisoning the night before but didn’t know how long he would stay and sign after (he signed and took pics with everyone.)  This also concerned me for his singing.

    When he first started singing, I opened my mouth in awe.  I couldn’t believe how incredible he sounded.  His tone, pitch was fantastic.  I went out to the patio to make a phone call and a few people sitting out there asked me who that was singing….they loved his voice!

    I tried to record him but at playback it just didn’t sound right at all.  I am totally convinced that in order to make any strong opinions on anyone’s voice, you really need to hear them live, and take into consideration the setting and equipment, including the recording devices.

    He definitely earned many new fans that day from his performance.  By the way, I do support all of the Idols, and have all their CDs so I enjoy all genres of music.  Looking forward to the CDs dropping in May. Casey James CD is really great.  Seen him live in Feb in RI (yes, I am from RI and Erika has a great voice and is awesome live as well)and was floored again by Casey’s voice and guitar skills. 

    If you can see any of the Idols live, I highly recommend it as you may be really pleasantly surprised!

  • http://twitter.com/MoriaPolonius Moria Polonius

    For people who say he can’t sing, better watch Amy Lee’s (Evanescence) performance in the Golden Gods Awards, minutes before she won the prize of best rock vocalist – 15 minutes of a complete trainwreck out of tune performance.

    What kind of justification is that? How does Amy Lee having a terrible performance excuse James from being able to sing live? It’s OK for him to sound bad because others happen to sound bad too?  

    Geez, and people complain about pop music.

  • Anonymous

    Kath527 I agree with you on seeing James perform live. I saw him at Rock School, his tone and pitch was spot on and I recorded it with a really, really good camera and stereo mike. Upon playing the recording I was like WTH?  It was so different from the live performance.  That was the same for seeing Danny Gokey live, live his voice is so much better than on t.v. or videos.

  • Anonymous

    What happened to the Durbs or Durbinators?  I thought that was the name of his fanbase.

  • Anonymous

     I have no idea. I’m not in charge of fanbase names – lol.

  • Anonymous

    I think there are actually several different groups, I’m not sure because I don’t belong to any of them, but I think there is a facebook group called the Beautiful Disasters, and I think the original fans from the American Idol website were called the Durbinators, but recently I saw the name Outcast Army being used a lot and it seems like James is leaning toward that instead of Durbinators, and again it’s just a guess but I thought it might be because Durbinators sounds like they are only James fans, not the whole band and it seems to me like he is trying to include the band in everything.

  • Anonymous

    I think the outcastarmy is an all-inclusive term rather than the name of a specific group, actually I’m quite sure of that one part. The folks that started using it were not referring to a group, just using a term. Who knows how these things work? It’s usually pretty organic. The other groups have private sites and/or numbers that are issued. Although I think that Durbinators is more a general term than anything. I think it might have started on the AI board with numbers issued etc. but now there is more than one fan site with that name. Anyway, it’s just semantics, they all just mean fan.

  • http://www.facebook.com/masewallace Mase Wallace

    BURNED!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/masewallace Mase Wallace

    AND MELTING JIMMY’S FACE OFF,TOO

  • judes

    Kath that’s the disadvantage of living in another country -that we can’t see most of the idols live here in Australia[apart from Kelly, Daughtry & Carrie & Adam ].I’d love for more idols to be given the opportunity to come here as I think there would be a good response.i would love to see James live as I don’t think the You tube videos do him justice as the sound is distorted a lot but I did enjoy seeing him on idol the other night with our surround sound system-so much better.I wish James & the band well on their tour.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/57KPQ4K7HIGPGR7PDW333QMZJQ Steppen

    I find all the talks about James Durbin’s vocal control and pitch problem ridiculous. James Durbin is not in a singing competition anymore.  I do not believe he has serious vocal control and pitch problem to be NOT marketable out there in the music industry. In fact, his voice is considered extremely powerful and his vocal range incredible. So this type of scrutiny sounds a bit trivial to me.  James is very marketable in fact given his vocal ability, looks, and creativity (especially when it comes to stage production). BTW, I believe he has chosen a band that is very marketable as well. The problem James is facing is that he has chosen a genre that is just not popular right now. The music style people listen to tend to be more polished rather than raw. Also, I believe James fits the best in between pop and metal. So a subtle marketing strategy is required to get him accepted in both worlds (which are two very polarizing worlds by the way), or else be rejected by both. We’ll probably be seeing him jumping back and forth between the two. He needs to stay humble in his role of bringing metal back though. As I said, subtlety is the key. Also, James and his band need to prove that their ability to write/make songs/sounds of their own. I like them. I wish to see more of them in the future.

  • Anonymous

    James Durbin is not in a singing competition
    anymore.  I do not believe he has serious vocal control and pitch
    problem to be NOT marketable out there in the music industry.

    Agree.

    In fact, his voice is considered extremely powerful and his vocal range incredible.

    Yup.

    So this type of scrutiny sounds a bit trivial to me.  James
    is very marketable in fact given his vocal ability, looks, and
    creativity (especially when it comes to stage production).

    Yup.

    BTW, I believe he has chosen a band that is very marketable as well.

    Me, too.

  • Anonymous

    Well Steppen, I agree with all of your post except that James should be marketed jumping back and forth between metal and pop because he fits best between the two worlds.  Personally, I think hard rock songs like Higher Than Heaven, Liberate and Back For More are his best bet in the future with no pop at all.  In my opinion the biggest mistake Wind Up has made with James so far is thinking that everyone who watches American Idol (and therefore his core fanbase) likes pop music.  Don’t they get it?  James was a breath of fresh air to the thousands of people out there who watch Idol, but also love hard rock music (like myself). 

    I think they wasted so much time and money trying so hard to market Love Me Bad to the pop radio stations – that money and time should have been spent marketing him to the rock stations, with an all rock album from the start.  Thank God Wind Up FINALLY listened to his core fan base who never gave up lobbying for Higher Than Heaven to be sang on Idol.  I am sure he would not have had the good response he had if he had sang Love Me Bad on the show.  The people who really liked James when he was on the show liked him for exactly what he said he wanted to be, and didn’t want to see him turn into another soft rock/pop guy.  Not only that, but when James sings stuff like Love Me Bad it just doesn’t sound authentic.  Everyone knows that’s not his first choice of music.  When he sings his harder songs you can tell he’s enjoying every minute.

    Maybe now Wind Up will finally get it…now that they took a chance and listened to the fans and saw the response James got on Idol.

  • Anonymous

    Standing Ovation for thirdtime! Listen to thirdtime WindUP – man up and put your money and support behind what James does best – rock. Don’t just throw it out to the wind. And then release Back for More and Liberate.

  • Anonymous

    thirdtime says, “Dylan is an excellent guitarist.  I mean, seriously good.  I don’t even think he’s truly gotten a chance to show the world what he can do yet.”

    You bring up what may be an interesting scenario, Dylan could end up being a celebrity figure in his own right, which is typical of rock and metal bands.  If James is willing to share the spotlight a little bit, it could only benefit his sales and exposure.  Secondly, he initially said he wanted to go under a band name, I’m sure his label advised him against it, but if he gets firmly established I wonder if he would reconsider doing that out of respect to his bandmates.  I really hope he can keep this group together for awhile.

  • DragonFly

    Various comments on hair color preferences (lol) are as controversial as, from the beginning, what style of music fans want James to write/perform.  Except for “really heavy” (& that’s HIS choice for sure also if he wants that direction)whatever he’s written & sung so far is fine by me… & many other Buyer’s comments from what I’ve seen.  Most compliment the entire album, give or take some who say “softer/heavier”.  As long as “James, You Rock” is the popular shout out I think we’ll be ok for a 2nd album choice of music from him.  He has a good ear for melody & lyrics.

  • Anonymous

    This is the retarded guy that was on Idol a few years ago, right?  I guess he’s judged on a curve.

  • justmefornow

    Classy.