James Durbin – Good Riddance (Time of Your Life) – Song Stream

Listen to James Durbin’s unreleased Idol song, Green Day’s “Good Riddance (Time of Your Life), available on his American Idol Season 10 Highlights EP.  The tune is not only unreleased, but was never performed on Idol!

The rest of the top 4, Scotty McCreery, Lauren Alaina and Haley Reinhart are releasing EPs as well.  Check out clips and links to download at this link.

The set officially comes out on Tuesday, June 28, but you can download it now at Walmart.

  • washpd

    What is this? Was he trying to copy the Green Day version exactly? It doesn’t even sound like James.

  • girlygirl

    He didn’t change this up at all did he? It’s just a straight karaoke version of the song. Maybe that’s why he never performed it on the show.

  • sagi

    Yeah, playing them side by side in different windows you could hardly tell the difference. But James sounds good when he just sings, all his efforts at vocal acrobats is what makes him sound, well, ~bad.

  • Valentin432

    This is bizarre.
    It makes me almost wonder if Mj posted the wrong link and this is the Green Day version. I can’t recognize James voice at all.

  • Barometz02

    They auto-tuned his voice to the point where it doesn’t even sound like him. James should know that a good cover song should not be a carbon copy of the original.

  • girlygirl

    I wonder why they picked this song to put on the CD instead of something that James put a more original spin on. Weird

  • Pam

    That is odd. It doesn’t sound like James much at all.

  • emmuzka

    Good song and good singing, but it sounds exactly like the original. Maybe they have speeded it up slightly, and it’s sung with a slightly more american accent?

    All’n’all, it sounds good but it also sounds like an imitation cover band version. So, basically, it sounds like a joke.

  • Jon

    I suppose if this is the first time anyone listened to the song and not the original, it’s a good recording. But James sound too auto-tune and copy-cat. I know Lauren’s “Wild One” recording is up on youtube if u search for it.

  • bridgette12

    This song sounds just like haley’s, a karaoke version of the original. I wouldn’t pay a dime to hear this song.

  • Chicagolaw

    Whatever they did in the studio, it doesn’t even sound like James. Or, it’s James doing his best Billie Joe Armstrong interpretation.

    After all the metal, “I brought hard rock to Idol,” talk, if this is the direction he ends up going, it will be a little funny. And a little sad.

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ Zsus

    Well, I wouldn’t buy it because I own the original.

    But, listening to it, I was thinking what a great boot song this would be.

  • Desdemona

    I still love James’ voice – wish they had included the studio version of “Without You” because it is so beautiful it gives me chills. Say what you will, the boy can SANG!

  • halo9125

    Imagine how Simon would have crucified this rendition of the song….

    Edit: The more I listen to him, the more I wonder why exactly they signed him. At least with Haley, there is a unique quality and sound to her voice that I can see being very marketable with the right material. With James- not so much.

  • sr4mjc

    I always thought James was an excellent mimic. Even more so with this recording. I still don’t even know who James is or his sound is. His Skid Row was Skid Row, his Green Day is Green Day. Should be interesting to see what sound they give to him to record.

  • Mel1

    Is this really James? Sounds so much like Billie Joe.

  • Trina

    There’s been speculation this song he was supposed to sing Top 3 night, maybe chosen by Jimmy or the judges so they did a quick recording. Regardless, since he didnt perform this on the show I’m guessing either way this was done super fast to get on the EP and there was no time for arrangement changes.

  • katielynne

    Blah – just plain karaoke!

  • daydreaminmeme

    Well, I’m an old fogey and wouldn’t know a Green Day tune if it came up and bit me on my azz, but I like James’ version. I think he sounds great and not at all autotuned & I’m gonna buy his ep.
    So sue me. ;)

  • annie12120

    All AI contestants are mimics to some degree. They have no choice in that until they get to release original material.

    I really like this song and Green Day, so I am pleased to get a James version as well. As a James and Green Day fan, I can hear several differences with both recordings.

    I am looking forward to see what James will perform on tour and any material he puts out.

  • koshka

    katielynne says:
    06/26/2011 at 12:03 pm
    Blah – just plain *autotuned* karaoke!

    Fixed it! ;)

  • musicality

    You probably don’t recognize it because they autotuned his voice. But I agree he is a mimic. He copies. When on the show you could see him mimic. He isn’t original. That’s what Jimmy and several music critics kept telling him. Who is James? He keeps copying others style etc. This is basically a karoke cover. Why not just buy the original and get a better song?

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    Fact:

    James didn’t choose any of the songs on his EP, if he had this song and several others wouldn’t have made the cut.

    Fact:

    James said that he wanted to sing Dio’s Rainbow in the Dark for Top 3, this song is clearly Jimmy Iovine’s choice. It is not a true representation of James in any shape or form. No thanks, Iovine! No, this Durbinator does NOT want James to go in this direction, so just stop it!

    I do not want James to be forced to make over produced cookie cutter pop-rock where his voice becomes unrecognizable. James must just keep pushing for what he wants and insist on doing things his way.

  • jga94

    I don’t think this is autotuned.James sounds great but this sounds just the same as the original.I think James should join a band that has the same musical tastes as he does…otherwise–not unless he writes his own songs—he’ll probably be turned into a pop-rock poser…like what Steven Tyler said to him—don’t go pop…

  • CindyM

    I do not want James to be forced to make over produced cookie cutter pop-rock where his voice becomes unrecognizable. James must just keep pushing for what he wants and insist on doing things his way.

    You’re putting alot of pressure on James there. He doesn’t really have the power to “insist” on anything yet.

    Listened to the song, it sounds like a complete copy of the original.

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    I don’t think this is autotuned.James sounds great but this sounds just the same as the original.I think James should join a band that has the same musical tastes as he does…otherwise–not unless he writes his own songs—he’ll probably be turned into a pop-rock poser…like what Steven Tyler said to him—don’t go pop…

    Thank you! But it is autotuned let’s be real here, every Interscope production is autotuned, that’s how they do things, don’t think for a 2nd that the others aren’t. This recording is exactly how Jimmy wanted it to sound, if the naysayers want to complain they must complain to him not James.

    But here’s what I’ve been saying all along, if James gives in to Jimmy’s demands then he will be turned into just another cookie cutter sounding pop-rocker. This must not happen I do not want him to suffer the same fate Allison did.

  • cmc25

    Somebody made a mistake. This does not sound James at all.

  • smeggingnuts

    DurbNet

    Fact:

    James didn’t choose any of the songs on his EP, if he had this song and several others wouldn’t have made the cut.

    FACT
    We don’t actually know how the songs were choosen or how much input each of the contestants had on the EP’s

    FACT
    When your favorite doesn’t something you may not like people tend to place all the blame on others. But when they do something they love its all the work of their favorite….in reallity its usually a mix of the 2.

    And yes it is kinda autotuned but it sounds like the rest of James studio recordings. If you listen under the mimicry you can hear James voice and it sounds like his voice on his other recordings. The problem is James mimics other singers so sometimes it sounds like they over autotune and others not so much. It kinda depends on how differant the artist James is mimicing sound in comparison to him.

    IMHO and YMMV

  • Trina

    There’s not one single Idol fresh off the show who goes into work with a mainstream label that can “demand” anything. Hell Kelly Clarkson all these years later can’t even win all her RCA battles. James can sit down with the label and make some compromises, but no way will he be demanding or insisting anything.

    James isn’t stupid. When he said he wanted to work with Jimmy and Rock Mafia again there’s no way he believed he was going to get his metal album. When he told Slezak “I can dream” regarding bringing metal back I felt like that was one of the few times he was thinking pretty realistically.

  • Tera2

    I’ve always liked the original of “Time of your life” by Green day and I like James singing it. Its a cover so its gonna be similar to the original. I like how they changed the beats and gave it an Irish music vibe.

    I really like that “Uprising”, “Will you still love me tomorrow”, and “While my guitar gently weep” are on the EP. Instead of “Maybe amazed” I’d have preferd his cover of Bon Jovi’s “I’ll be there for you” or “You got another thing coming” – he was superb on them. But the EP is a good collection of songs. James gave stand out performances on the show and in the studio. James has a special voice and Jimmy Iovine said its voices like his that made him get into music biz

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    FACT
    We don’t actually know how the songs were choosen or how much input each of the contestants had on the EP’s

    Seriously now, Mr. “Give Metal a Chance” wouldn’t have switched the Green Day song for the Dio song or the Paul McCartney song for the Sammy Hagar song?

    FACT
    When your favorite doesn’t something you may not like people tend to place all the blame on others. But when they do something they love its all the work of their favorite….in reallity its usually a mix of the 2.

    Huh?

    And yes it is kinda autotuned but it sounds like the rest of James studio recordings. If you listen under the mimicry you can hear James voice and it sounds like his voice on his other recordings. The problem is James mimics other singers so sometimes it sounds like they over autotune and others not so much. It kinda depends on how differant the artist James is mimicing sound in comparison to him.

    It does not sound like his other recordings. This is the first recording where his voice is barely recognizable, trust me he would’ve sounded different if he performed this live. His recording of Uprising was also over produced but I can still hear that it’s him singing, apart from the missing octave jumps it was almost indentical to the live version.

  • katielynne

    James must just keep pushing for what he wants and insist on doing things his way.

    Hell will freeze over is James gets his own way, because none of the Idols throughout the years has every gotten their own way in their recordings – not even Carrie, Daughtry or Kelly.

  • Daytripper73

    Look, James wanted, practically BEGGED, to get on a major label. James will do what Jimmy Iovine tells him to do, no more and no less. If he’s a good boy, Jimmy might throw him a bone or two and let him sing some throwback metal songs. James doesn’t have the clout to fight anything and if it really mattered to him (moreso than money or fame) he would have made it clear he wanted to go indie and do his own thing.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Somebody made a mistake. This does not sound James at all.

    I agree. It sure doesn’t sound like him at all.

    Listened to the song, it sounds like a complete copy of the original.

    Strange. It does sound the same as the original, without anything to personalize it as a “James Durbin” song.

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    Look, James wanted, practically BEGGED, to get on a major label.

    Practically begged where?

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  • Cindij

    I love James singing Greenday and I love that song
    No matter what style James ends up singing will be fine with me as long as the songs they give him are good songs
    James has the rare quality of putting on a fun stage performance not every artist out there can do that.
    I am sure James will put out good music and have his band in place
    I will be looking forward to seeing him in concert
    Go James Go

  • smeggingnuts

    DurbNet says:
    06/26/2011 at 1:59 pm
    Look, James wanted, practically BEGGED, to get on a major label.

    Practically begged where?

    *cough* Going on American Idol *cough*

  • musicality

    James doesn’t have the clout to fight anything and if it really mattered to him (moreso than money or fame) he would have made it clear he wanted to go indie and do his own thing.

    James made these grandiose statements how he would not sell out his fans and do anything other than metal. He said it several times on radio interviews. Guarantee he will sell out for a shiny new penny.

  • Barometz02

    I think they used auto-tune to lower his usual high-pitched voice. That’s why it doesn’t sound like him.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    James made these grandiose statements how he would not sell out his fans and do anything other than metal. He said it several times on radio interviews. Guarantee he will sell out for a shiny new penny.

    It’s too bad that James kind of got carried away with his boasting and promises. He got his fans all riled up and raised their expectations, and may not be able to deliver what he promised. I thought that he was pretty naive, but hopefully, whatever happens, he should never have to worry about supporting his family again.

  • Buffynut

    James lower register is definitely not his best thing. Autotune was probably necessary for that reason. I do agree, with most of you, does not sound like James at all. However, I never found Jame’s voice that distinctive to begin with (same with Pia’s.)

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    mj says:
    06/26/2011 at 2:06 pm

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    I am deleting posts.

    Posters who refuse to follow the guidelines are put in moderation.

    Nowhere in your guidelines does it say that posters may dis the idols, it says that posters may “criticize” the idols. Dissing is NOT criticism and insulting an idol’s mentality is NOT criticism either! Criticism is meant to be constructive not offensive. If you don’t want anyone to misinterpret the guidelines then clarify that by criticism you mean dissing.

  • koshka

    There’s not one single Idol fresh off the show who goes into work with a mainstream label that can “demand” anything.

    LOL IDK for as much as Crystal drove me nuts all season (and afterwards) she fought pretty hard and seemed to get a lot of concessions.. for good or bad.

  • dinaa68

    I like the song a lot, and I love James, but I have to say that I am disappointed because it doesn’t sound like James. I don’t blame James for that, though. He’s not in a position where he can really have a say about anything at this point. I don’t understand why TPTB (the powers that be) would put something on the EP that is so much like the original. James’ other studio recordings sound like him; this one will stick out like a sore thumb. A nice-sounding sore thumb, but still a sore thumb. Its really sad, because I think there are fans like myself who ordered a copy before mj posted an audio, and now they’re going to say, “Why did I pay nearly $8 for a song that doesn’t even sound like James is singing? They have really done a disservice to James and the fans. He deserves better. He sounds so great on his other studio recordings; why is this one so autotuned, kareoke, or whatever else they did to it?

  • Daytripper73

    I seem to recall James agonizing over the idea of NOT being signed, and it was all over Twitter. He was practically falling apart while having to deal with the wait.

    LOL IDK for as much as Crystal drove me nuts all season (and afterwards) she fought pretty hard and seemed to get a lot of concessions.. for good or bad.

    Crystal came to Jive with a catalog of fully written and conceived songs at a time when Jive knew Sony wasn’t going to continue the relationship with AI. It worked out well for Crystal and her fans, but the turn her tale took had more to do with keeping things cheap, finishing out the obligations to AI, and realizing she was truly an odd duck artistically (in terms of their other artists). The exception to the rule, so to speak. Jimmy Iovine appears to sign people to fill specific roles and if they don’t like it, or there’s not a role for them to fill, they won’t get signed.

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    It’s too bad that James kind of got carried away with his boasting and promises. He got his fans all riled up and raised their expectations, and may not be able to deliver what he promised. I thought that he was pretty naive, but hopefully, whatever happens, he should never have to worry about supporting his family again.

    For the record James’ fans have not misinterpreted his vision for his music. He’s not the most articulate speaker, but his point is he wants to push the boundaries of mainstream rock and create a new sound that will fit him. Yes he wants to go heavier & edgier than anyone else in mainstream rock today. And quite frankly it’s about time someone does. After 5 years the HAC rock/soft-rock/pop-rock sound is getting old and has been dropping in sales since Cook. We’re sick of it now, we want something different.

  • Q3

    All major label recordings are autotuned and sweetened. But usually they leave enough of the vocalist’s own vocal characteristics so you know who was singing. This doesn’t sound like James to me, and there is nothing new about it, it is just a nice cover/copy of the original – so what is the point?

    Regarding how labels work — if an artist can work with their label A&R and management team and convince them that their vision for their album is a commercially successful direction, they can sometimes get a lot of freedom. And even when the label disagrees with the creative direction an artist has taken, sometimes the agree to accept and release an album that is less commercial than they want — like Kelly Clarkson’s “My December”. No matter what people want to say, it is clear that RCA wanted “Breakaway 2″ rather than what they got.

    James says a lot of stuff. One interview he’s talking metal, in another interview he is saying he wants to do music like Muse. I think he doesn’t have a clear vision of how to balance his existing fanbase from Idol with what is selling. It is not an easy problem. And, in the end, he’ll record what they give him to record, and the producers will manipulate the sound to make it “commercial”, and my prediction is that many of his fans who want a metal album will be disappointed.

    He is really young and has a long career ahead of him. If he gets lucky and gets a couple solid pop songs on his first album, and he sells some tracks and albums, he’ll get another album and some more control. (And even talented singer need a lot of luck these days. It is harder than ever to make it.)

  • iluvai

    I think it sounds just like James. Maybe not James live, but there is no mistaking his voice to me. Sounds great!

  • mermichelle

    Somebody made a mistake. This does not sound James at all.

    I totally agree…that sounds nothing like him.

  • smeggingnuts

    Yes he wants to go heavier & edgier than anyone else in mainstream rock today

    I guess if you are listening to HAC stations to listen to rock then yes he is heavier is sound….but if you actually listen to rock stations then no James is doing neither heavier or edgier music.

  • Desdemona

    mermichelle says:

    I totally agree…that sounds nothing like him.

    I think it sounds exactly like him. I’ve bought every single one of his itunes recordings, and this lower register sounds just like James’ lower register. I love it, however “just like the original” it sounds.

    I love his voice – lower register AND upper register. And he has a very distinctive sound to me.

  • Trina

    James got SOME fans hopes up when he made all those statements. There’s some select vocal fans (mostly on the official AI boards) who are set on him making a metal album, some will buy anything, and some wouldn’t mind him going in a more modern pop/rock direction. I fully admit I wish he never said all that or said over and over he was forming a band with his friend because now I’m seeing some questioning how he’s going to record while this guy is busy touring. Some, yes, some are in for a rude awakening.

    Its easy to say as a fan what James should do or say what you want for him, but in the end of the day its not the fans money on the line.

    ETA: I don’t recall James agonizing all over Twitter begging to be signed. There was that one time he said he wa anxious to find out his destiny and wanted fans to cross their fingers. The only other time I recall was some interviews where he flatout said he hoped to work with Jimmy again. Nothing wrong with that IMO.

  • iluvai

    I think it sounds exactly like him. I’ve bought every single one of his itunes recordings, and this lower register sounds just like James’ lower register. I love it, however “just like the original” it sounds.

    I love his voice – lower register AND upper register. And he has a very distinctive sound to me.

    I completely agree!!! And I have all his itunes recordings too. :)

  • XDavidGoliathX

    If this EP is any indication of what we can expect from James in the future, then I expect a lot of milquetoast mush. How come Haley gets to rock out with “You Oughta Know” and James gets a lightweight song like “Time of your Life.” Why not test market him with a metal song instead of more of the same on the EP? -shrug-

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    All major label recordings are autotuned and sweetened. But usually they leave enough of the vocalist’s own vocal characteristics so you know who was singing. This doesn’t sound like James to me, and there is nothing new about it, it is just a nice cover/copy of the original – so what is the point?

    Exactly what is the point? The only point that I can make and I need to actually scream this for some people here is that IT ISN’T HIS FAULT SO DON’T BLAME HIM!

    James says a lot of stuff. One interview he’s talking metal, in another interview he is saying he wants to do music like Muse.

    I’ve never heard James say he wants to do music like Muse, where did you hear this?

  • emmuzka

    I’m kind of intrigued by the fact that no-one has suggested that James would try out in Europe or other countries. (Since rock and metal lives in Europe just fine.) Maybe we tend to still see him “just” and Idol artist, which don’t do well in Europe, or, eventually, just very, very American (like Daughtry, which also don’t tend to sell very well in Europe).

    Personally, I see him just an Idol artist, at least with his first album. He is going to need all the support he can get, as I don’t see him savvy or original enough to hold on his own. This puts him between the rock and the hard place: He needs Idol to stay afloat at this point, but to graduate to a respected name/band on the field that he wants to, he would need the “I don’t give a F***!” attitude. The Used would be a good band for him to seek benchmark.

    Though, if The Used is the bulldog, James is just a golden retriever with a spiked collar.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    For the record James’ fans have not misinterpreted his vision for his music. He’s not the most articulate speaker, but his point is he wants to push the boundaries of mainstream rock and create a new sound that will fit him. Yes he wants to go heavier & edgier than anyone else in mainstream rock today. And quite frankly it’s about time someone does. After 5 years the HAC rock/soft-rock/pop-rock sound is getting old and has been dropping in sales since Cook. We’re sick of it now, we want something different.

    Oh, so all of that public talk from James about “bringing metal back” and “forcing” radio to play those songs didn’t really happen? Just like he denied asking Adam for “one-on-one advice”, while he still had the original tweet posted where he asked Adam for exactly that? OK. LOL! It sounds like James’ fans will accept anything that he records as fitting his “vision” no matter what his sound turns out to be, which is fine, but let’s not rewrite history.

  • Q3

    For the record none of James’ fans have not misinterpreted his vision for his music. He’s not the most articulate speaker, but his point is he wants to push the boundaries of mainstream rock and create a new sound that will fit him. Yes he wants to go heavier & edgier than anyone else in mainstream rock today. And quite frankly it’s about time someone does. After 5 years the HAC rock/soft-rock/pop-rock sound is getting old and has been dropping in sales since Cook. We’re sick of it now, we want something different.

    Post-grunge/soft rock (ala Nickelback) is definitely declining in sales and really seems to have hit a creative end point. Even Nichelback has moved on.

    But there is a lot of music much “heavier and edgier” than that in Mainstream Rock. And the idea that James will “go heavier & edgier than anyone else in mainstream rock today.” seems like an overstatement to me but maybe I have no idea what “mainstream rock is”. There is no chance he is going to put out something heavier than even Deftones “Diamond Eyes” which was #6 on the Billboard 200 so that would make it mainstream in my book. Just because Nu Metal and Industrial and Thrash Rock are not on CHR and HAC stations, doesn’t mean that this music doesn’t exist. It just means that it doesn’t appeal to the 18-39 year old women that radio advertisers are trying to reach.

    We’ll all see soon enough what happens with James but hearing this track does not make me optimistic that he will even be able to put out a rock album — forget about a “heavy & edgy” rock album.

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    I guess if you are listening to HAC stations to listen to rock then yes he is heavier is sound….but if you actually listen to rock stations then no James is doing neither heavier or edgier music.

    Yep but notice that I used the word “mainstream” in my post? The music that is played on rock stations isn’t mainstream.

    If this EP is any indication of what we can expect from James in the future, then I expect a lot of milquetoast mush. How come Haley gets to rock out with “You Oughta Know” and James gets a lightweight song like “Time of your Life.” Why not test market him with a metal song instead of more of the same on the EP? -shrug-

    Exactly what I was thinking!!! They could’ve put “Rainbow in the Dark” or at least “Heavy Metal” on the EP for that exact reason. But they give Haley “You Ougta Know” on hers??? What’s the deal with that?

  • emmuzka

    Desdemona:

    I think it sounds exactly like him. I’ve bought every single one of his itunes recordings, and this lower register sounds just like James’ lower register. I love it, however “just like the original” it sounds.

    Uh huh, Those who learn to love him through his recordings are in to a surprise in his concert! At least those who got to know him through Idol know what kind of live quality to expect.

  • whateverblah

    My guess is that this would have been the judges choice for James, since the “new” song on the other 3 EPs were the judges choices.

    As for the song itself, it’s not really a vocal showcase and it’s pretty much staight up like the original. I doubt it’s autotuned, but it is certainly “over-produced”. None of what I like about James comes through on this. Haley’s was over-produced as well, but I thought that song let more of “Haley” come through to make it worthwhile.

  • yellin

    I too, think it sounds exactly like James ( I had said a long time ago that I could hear him doing this track) and would love to hear it live (maybe on the tour?) just so we could see JUST how much this IS what he would sound like. I LOVE all of the variations in his voice. There is a song he recorded with his earlier band that sounds A LOT like the vocal here. He can sing just about anything. No matter what direction he goes in, he BELONGS on that stage performing. He has inspired so many, and I think it is smart that he is looking for advice from a diverse field of artists/producers/musicians etc. No artist can please everyone. In the end, I hope that HE is happy:)

  • fuzzywuzzy

    The only point that I can make and I need to actually scream this for some people here is that IT ISN’T HIS FAULT SO DON’T BLAME HIM!

    I think that this EP is simply an example of what James has in store when he records his album. From the fan posts here, they feel that he had little/nothing to do with the selection of songs for the EP or the final versions of the songs, so why should his album be any different? After finishing 4th on Idol (and not selling a lot of studio singles), he’s lucky to be signed and isn’t in any position to make demands, and I can see James agreeing to things just to get signed, and then just pretending that it was what he wanted all along. He seems to be able to contradict himself quite readily and expects people to forget about whatever he’s said (even if it happened only hours ago!). I think that James is just a guy with some talent who made a grab for the brass ring by going on Idol, and it looks like he’s been signed and will release an album. Now, he can buy LOTS of diapers. ;)

  • tls62

    Well….wasn’t that just a huge autotuned, mimicked piece of crap. Sorry I wasted my time listening to it. Good luck James. You’re going to need it.

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  • smeggingnuts

    DurbNet
    Yep but notice that I used the word “mainstream” in my post? The music that is played on rock stations isn’t mainstream.

    I think your arguing semantics about how you classify the music genre of ROCK or even “mainstream”.

    Like most music genre’s now aday everything is so broken down into sub genres you can pretty much classify anything anyway you want. What is mainstream….you want a mainstream rock act look at Godsmack…their 5 albums have sold over 9 million copies. They don’t get CHR or HAC radio play because they are not pop/rock. They are rock.

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    I’m kind of intrigued by the fact that no-one has suggested that James would try out in Europe or other countries. (Since rock and metal lives in Europe just fine.) Maybe we tend to still see him “just” and Idol artist, which don’t do well in Europe, or, eventually, just very, very American (like Daughtry, which also don’t tend to sell very well in Europe).

    Some of James favourite bands are Swedish metal bands like Hardcore Superstar, so he’s aware of the European metal maket. Perhaps the thought hasn’t crossed TPTB’s minds but I’m willing to bet it has crossed his mind.

  • koshka

    Exactly what I was thinking!!! They could’ve put “Rainbow in the Dark” or at least “Heavy Metal” on the EP for that exact reason. But they give Haley “You Ougta Know” on hers??? What’s the deal with that?

    hmmmm maybe foreshadowing James’s dive into Pop/Rock?

  • Q3

    I’m kind of intrigued by the fact that no-one has suggested that James would try out in Europe or other countries. (Since rock and metal lives in Europe just fine.) Maybe we tend to still see him “just” and Idol artist, which don’t do well in Europe, or, eventually, just very, very American (like Daughtry, which also don’t tend to sell very well in Europe).

    Actually, Daughtry had pretty good sales in Europe. And rock music sales share is US and EU is about the same.

    Globally, Pop music has been #1 for the past 10 years. (from 2009) In terms of revenue share, pop accounted for 29.2% of global music-retail sales last year, with rock taking a 25.7% share. Link: http://musicandcopyright.wordpress.com/2010/08/11/pop-is-still-king-of-the-world%E2%80%99s-music-genres/

    The difference is that a larger percentage of rock music sales are catalog sales — Beatles, Stones, U2, etc.

    A lot of what UMG paid for with the Idol deal is having albums/tracks from singers who 30+ million American’s know. That is a huge promotional head start — and they will work to leverage the sales from that audience first.

    I just do not see a way for James to build a rock fanbase. James doesn’t have a band and his debut album will be done with studio musicians. He will be give songs to record. He will record them as he is told to do. And the label will push him to record pop music that will get radio airplay so that they can promote sales.

    IF he has some great original material, and IF they let him record it, and IF it happens to be heavy & edgy rock music, and IF rock fans/rock radio/rock festivals decide that James Durbin is the first rock-oriented person from Idol they will embrace, and IF he puts together a great band that is amazing live and IF….

    There are way too many IFs.

    No one from Idol has been successful in rock except the HAC rock guys. I just can’t imagine KoRn fans loving James. But maybe he will break through this barrier — ’cause anything is possible.

  • koshka

    Some of James favourite bands are Swedish metal bands like Hardcore Superstar, so he’s aware of the European metal maket. Perhaps the thought hasn’t crossed TPTB’s minds but I’m willing to bet it has crossed his mind.

    Well if they export James, it would be like breaking a new artist. That doesn’t make much sense. They would be turning their back on all that exposure to the HAC/CHR crowd (aka AI demographic) & that would be like flushing money down a drain. I just don’t know how welcoming european customers would be to a post reality show American trying to do rock when our own rock listeners constantly pan AI.

  • Q3

    Hardcore Superstar’s last album didn’t even chart in Sweden did it. Seriously, the Nordic Metal movement peaked sometime in the late 90’s.

    If that is the direction James heads, then he will be in worse shape than if he puts out the drivel that UMG is likely to foist on him.

    JMHO, James clearly wants to be successful, he is clearly confused about what to do (that can be the only excuse for the tweet to Adam), and he will make concessions to be successful or he will not be successful. My hope is that his fans will be open-minded and passionate enough about him to stick with him and but the inevitable pop album with rock touches that UMG is likely to put out.

  • Desdemona

    Uh huh, Those who learn to love him through his recordings are in to a surprise in his concert! At least those who got to know him through Idol know what kind of live quality to expect.

    LOVED him on Idol – he is the reason I kept tuning in every week, so I have a pretty good idea what his concerts will be like. He lives for performing live and the audience loves it.

  • Kirsten

    My guess is that this would have been the judges choice for James, since the “new” song on the other 3 EPs were the judges choices.

    No, that’s not true. Here are what the extra tracks are:

    Scotty – AYGTKMON – Jimmy’s choice
    Lauren – Wild One – Lauren’s choice
    Haley – YOK – Judge’s choice

    Therefore, we can derive nothing from the other EPs as to who picked that song for James.

    I kind of like the acoustic nature of this track which allows one to hear the actual singing. Of course, I happen to like this song period, so that helps. Although the music on the track sounds like Green Day, I don’t think the singing does.

  • Moria Polonius

    Can anyone tell me, because I don’t remember, what were the best-selling James iTunes recordings from Idol?

  • halo9125

    Bottom line is this- regardless of what we all think of this particular track (it’s decent enough to listen to- it just happens to be almost a carbon copy of the original)- one can’t help but wish the guy luck. Life has not dealt him the easiest of hands, he’s got a child and a loving wife to be- I really hope that he can find his way in the business and hammer out some degree of success and be able to support his family. I truly hope the industry doesn’t chew him up and spit him out.

  • abbysee

    I don’t like it. It doesn’t sound like James at all to me, and I own several of his itunes recordings too. What was the point of this at all?

  • johanna

    Theses EPs are targetting the people going on see the Tour that did not buy the songs on ITunes and I would not be surprised if the songs on them were the songs that they will be singing during the Tour. I don’t take it as anything more than that and certainly not as a indication of what type of music James will put out after the tour. I like James EP and I like Time of Your Life great catchy song and I don’t give a hoot if it sounds like Green Day’s version as I love Green Day.

  • Kirsten

    Theses EPs are targetting the people going on see the Tour that did not buy the songs on ITunes and I would not be surprised if the songs on them were the songs that they will be singing during the Tour.

    Maybe they’ll actually sell them on tour.

    These EPs are meant as souvenirs. They are not meant to introduce James or anybody else to new viewers. The extra track is just to lure the collectors who have already downloaded all the contestants tracks already.

    I think a better sign-post of his direction post-Idol is to see who he is writing/producing with.

  • kmd

    I thought James sounded alright to me. James does have a very good voice.

  • Studio57

    The thing with groups like Godsmack and Daughtry is that they came on the scene when their brand of rock was popular- their fans are sticking/growing old with them to a point out of loyalty. James is not going to change the rock industry by singing Dio type metal. Nothing in his past has showed that he has the potential to bring a new sound to the genre. James is stuck with the few thousand idol fans that got him to 4th place. He isn’t going to pick up any more.

    This watered down version of TOYL is exactly what I expected out of Iovine.

  • Trina

    Did you see Jimmy’s raging hate towards Heavy Metal? The song and the genre? There’s no way he was going to be allowed to put that on this EP.

    I don’t recall James mentioning Muse post Idol but when Jimmy said to him “you leave here, youre recording and this is the perfect modern direction for you” James agreed. When he did 30stM and Jimmy got even more enthusiastic and said this is what he needs to stick with, James agreed “110%” so it will be interesting to see how this goes now.

  • McCreerian

    This watered down version of TOYL is exactly what I expected out of Iovine.

    Iovine, is the guy who produced the current biggest star in the world(Lady Gaga). I would love to have Iovine produce my tracks-if people love Gaga’s stuff, he must be doing something right.

  • Q3

    I wish James luck because I think he both deserves a break and will need some luck.

    This is a tough business but most Idol alums make a nice living after Idol and I am certain that James will make more than most people do and get to do what he loves. If he is lucky he will make a lot more money than that.

    It is part of an Idol fans “job description” to dream big for their Idol. So for the James fans who think he will change the face of popular music as we know it and bring back metal, I say “dream on”. I don’t think anyone has changed music by bringing back something old, the musicians and performers who have changed music have done it be creating something new — even though all the greats stood on the shoulders of the musicians who came before them — and many reclaimed older forms of music.

    So my hope for James is that he can work with people who can help him figure out how to recast the classic metal music and vocal style he loves with some form of contemporary production. That will be a real trick but that would be something new and exciting.

    This pop-light HAC retread track is nothing new, interesting or exciting. And there are many other James performances that IMO were a better showcase for his voice/talent.

    JMHO.

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    I think a better sign-post of his direction post-Idol is to see who he is writing/producing with.

    He just wrote a song with Marti Frederickson & James Michael. James Michael tweeted that the song is “amazing”. But this doesn’t give us much indication of direction as both writers can write anything from heavy metal to pop to country, though they are both excellent. But considering that James was involved in writing this song I’m guessing it’s a rock song, the question is will it be recorded?

  • Desdemona


    Moria Polonius says:
    06/26/2011 at 3:45 pm

    Can anyone tell me, because I don’t remember, what were the best-selling James iTunes recordings from Idol?

    Moria,

    I’m not sure how to find his best-selling recordings from iTunes, but according to the ‘ratings’ on the individual recordings, “Uprising” was the most popular, with 3,129 ratings, followed by “Maybe I’m Amazed” with 2,985, and “Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow” with 2,603. The others all had less than 2,000 ratings.

    I repeat that my favorite of all his recordings is “Without You”, though it’s the one where he was so off key and so emotional, it was heartbreaking to watch.

  • fuzzywuzzy
    This watered down version of TOYL is exactly what I expected out of Iovine.

    Iovine, is the guy who produced the current biggest star in the world(Lady Gaga). I would love to have Iovine produce my tracks-if people love Gaga’s stuff, he must be doing something right.

    Iovine treats different artists differently, depending on their talent, artistry and commercial appeal. There’s no way that he’s regarding James as approaching the same universe as Gaga. I’m sure that James publicly dissing Gaga in a radio interview wasn’t a good way to endear himself to Iovine either.

  • Trina

    One of the tweets said it was a rock song, but how hard? Marti has written some good rock songs in the past but he also wrote some dreck, uh like Steven Tyler’s solo single. How very rawk that is!

  • songsungblue

    his point is he wants to push the boundaries of mainstream rock and create a new sound that will fit him. Yes he wants to go heavier & edgier than anyone else in mainstream rock today. And quite frankly it’s about time someone does. After 5 years the HAC rock/soft-rock/pop-rock sound is getting old and has been dropping in sales since Cook. We’re sick of it now, we want something different.

    I can understand the appeal of Durbin, but pushing the envelope he is NOT. He sounds pretty much like, well, everyone. He’s an endearing guy, and I wish him luck, but I think anyone who believes he’s bound to change the music industry is going to be sorely disappointed. JMHO.

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    I wish James luck because I think he both deserves a break and will need some luck.

    This is a tough business but most Idol alums make a nice living after Idol and I am certain that James will make more than most people do and get to do what he loves. If he is lucky he will make a lot more money than that.

    It is part of an Idol fans “job description” to dream big for their Idol. So for the James fans who think he will change the face of popular music as we know it and bring back metal, I say “dream on”. I don’t think anyone has changed music by bringing back something old, the musicians and performers who have changed music have done it be creating something new — even though all the greats stood on the shoulders of the musicians who came before them — and many reclaimed older forms of music.

    So my hope for James is that he can work with people who can help him figure out how to recast the classic metal music and vocal style he loves with some form of contemporary production. That will be a real trick but that would be something new and exciting.

    This pop-light HAC retread track is nothing new, interesting or exciting. And there are many other James performances that IMO were a better showcase for his voice/talent.

    JMHO.

    I’m in total agreement with this post. Just one thing though it possible to take an old style and make it contemporary. Amy Winehouse, then Duffy, did this with swinging 60s pop-jazz. I’m convinced that this is what James really wants to do with classic hard rock & heavy metal. Nothing’s impossible, it can be done, like you said. I’m also hoping that James manages to recast this classic music & vocal style into a contemporary production, because that would be new and exciting.

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    Iovine, is the guy who produced the current biggest star in the world(Lady Gaga). I would love to have Iovine produce my tracks-if people love Gaga’s stuff, he must be doing something right.

    What is sad is that people actually love Gaga’s stuff. Sure Gaga, Perry & Ke$ha’s music is fun to jam to when you’re shit-faced drunk in a club, but how so many people can actually enjoy listening to such stupid lyrics and such annoying background music for hours on end is beyond me. And I’m not that old, I should be enjoying music like that but I can’t unless totally hammered. That this music sells so much and wins so many awards is truly a travesty because it isn’t real music, same goes with hip hop. Where’s the soul, style and substance? Man I wish this kinda music would be kept in the clubs where it truly belongs and away from the radio. But that’s just me.

  • CindyM

    Iovine, is the guy who produced the current biggest star in the world(Lady Gaga). I would love to have Iovine produce my tracks-if people love Gaga’s stuff, he must be doing something right.

    Iovine doesn’t produce Gaga’s tracks though. Her first album was produced by RedOne, Jeff Fusari primarily. Same for the Fame Monster, except at Ron Fair into the mix. Born this Way was produced by Red One and others, Iovine wasn’t part of the production of those tracks either.

  • koshka

    Iovine, is the guy who produced the current biggest star in the world(Lady Gaga). I would love to have Iovine produce my tracks-if people love Gaga’s stuff, he must be doing something right.

    I might have agreed with you if I hadn’t listened to the tracks that ALL of the idols released this year. All of the production was subpar. If Iovine was that involved.. then he is the one that signed off on all these released or in the least was watching over those that did.

  • Willis

    What is sad is that people actually love Gaga’s stuff. Sure Gaga, Perry & Ke$ha’s music is fun to jam to when you’re shit-faced drunk in a club, but how so many people can actually enjoy listening to such stupid lyrics and such annoying background music for hours on end is beyond me. And I’m not that old, I should be enjoying music like that but I can’t unless totally hammered.

    Lulz. I am totally digging Gaga right this very minute. I find her new album fresh and inventive with some great messages in the lyrics and I’m not even drunk. The day is still young though ;) Love Katy Perry too! I’ll admit my enjoyment of Ke$ha is increased with alcohol.

    I’ll wait to hear an original track from James before I pass full judgment. Never was a huge fan of his and this song was just meh for me. Hope he finds success though.

  • lili_anne7

    That this music sells so much and wins so many awards is truly a travesty because it isn’t real music, same goes with hip hop. Where’s the soul, style and substance? Man I wish this kinda music would be kept in the clubs where it truly belongs and away from the radio. But that’s just me.

    So what is “real music”? Metal or anything James releases? Not all pop music is souless, even Gaga has recorded some pretty good songs throughout her career IMO. Also you would be surprised at how much depth many Hip Hop artists have.

  • Q3

    Iovine, is the guy who produced the current biggest star in the world(Lady Gaga). I would love to have Iovine produce my tracks-if people love Gaga’s stuff, he must be doing something right.

    Iovine signed Lady Gaga — he did not create her or produce her music.

    Whether you love Lady Gaga or hate her or couldn’t care less, she is clearly running the show and is a brilliant business person and promoter. I give Iovine credit for spotting talent but not for creating talent. He didn’t create Eminem or BEPs either.

    The labels do not really bother with artist development anymore, they can’t afford to. They looks for “go to market” artists, not artist development projects.

  • Moria Polonius

    They could’ve put “Rainbow in the Dark” or at least “Heavy Metal” on the EP for that exact reason. But they give Haley “You Ougta Know” on hers??? What’s the deal with that?

    according to the ‘ratings’ on the individual recordings, “Uprising” was the most popular, with 3,129 ratings, followed by “Maybe I’m Amazed” with 2,985, and “Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow” with 2,603. The others all had less than 2,000 ratings.

    These EPs are marketed to Idol watchers and apparently, Idol watchers dig the softer side of James more than the metal one. “Heavy Metal” is pretty far down in these iTunes ratings (thanks, Desdemona, once I knew what I was looking for, it was easy to check) so that’s probably why you get Good Riddance on the EP. If it wasn’t the case, Iovine wouldn’t have steered James towards “Without You”, which Desdemona liked best.

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    So what is “real music”? Metal or anything James releases? Not all pop music is souless, even Gaga has recorded some pretty good songs throughout her career IMO. Also you would be surprised at how much depth many Hip Hop artists have.

    Of course not all pop is souless, Adele is pop and she is certainly not souless and I love her musc.

    I don’t consider all metal real music either. The modern death/thrash variety is nothing but crazy loud buzzing noise and incoherent shouting. I agree with the hardcore US metalheads that that stuff should be kept underground and out of the mainstream because it is just plain awful. And it’s not the kind of metal James likes or would ever consider making, he hates it. James likes the classic stuff, he has good taste in music, if his album ends up being bad it won’t be his fault.

  • Q3

    “Real Music” is not light rock, soft rock, pop-rock, hip hop, rap, pop, or dance music.

    And modern rock is out.

    What does that leave for James?

    Oh, I know — Country! :)

    ETA: I expect that James will end up with some version of pop-rock.

    James likes the classic stuff, he has good taste in music, if his album ends up being bad it won’t be his fault.

    So then logically, if it is good it will not be his “fault” either?

    All major labels exert a lot of control — they should, they are investing a lot of money. But the artists, even the Idols, are not unwitting pawns. They really do have some power and influence.

    Bo Bice wanted to do a Southern Rock album. It was a commercially questionable path. When he finally released “his” album, as his second album, it was a commercial failure. (And it was in 4,000 Walmarts so not a distribution issue.) There was not a big market for classic Southern rock.

    Sometime the label execs actually know what they are doing.

  • Moria Polonius

    James likes the classic stuff, he has good taste in music, if his album ends up being bad it won’t be his fault.

    Oh please.

    I like the classic stuff and have a good taste in music too. Doesn’t mean I would be capable of making a good album.

  • smeggingnuts

    if his album ends up being bad it won’t be his fault.

    So James is just a mindless automaton then?

  • McCreerian

    I might have agreed with you if I hadn’t listened to the tracks that ALL of the idols released this year. All of the production was subpar. If Iovine was that involved.. then he is the one that signed off on all these released or in the least was watching over those that did.

    That was another point I was wanting to make-people were bitching about the quality of the tracks produced this year for the studio versions. They were produced by Interscope and people were questioning their quality. Remember, Interscope has Blink 182, Lady Gaga, One Republic, No Doubt, Enrique Iglesias, U2, Timbaland-all big stars. These people at Interscope know what they are doing with tracks. I don’t think the quality of this season’s tracks were bad, I think they were just different from what people were used to. I know people LOVE to throw the band and sound under the bus, but I loved the tracks produced this year, and Interscope obviously know what they are doing. They got a lot of stars out there, so people obviously enjoy their music and the tracks produced.

  • Reflections On Life

    James vocal tone is EXACTLY the same as the original singer’s. I don’t think I’d even know it wasn’t the original singer, except for the minor inflective changes that James made. Maybe they should have chosen a song where James has a different vocal tone than original. (see: Haley v Alanis). (And the backing track here is tinny too).

  • McCreerian

    if his album ends up being bad it won’t be his fault.

    Then who is to blame? Its not like Interscope is brain dead in how to make an album. They are pretty huge and have a lot of credibility in the music industry.

  • lili_anne7

    And it’s not the kind of metal James likes or would ever consider making, he hates it. James likes the classic stuff, he has good taste in music, if his album ends up being bad it won’t be his fault.

    Isn’t James co-writing with other songwriters right now? Therefore he will have some input in his album. I don’t see James as the kind that just goes along with everything the label wants. So if his album does end up being bad, it will be his fault.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    What is sad is that people actually love Gaga’s stuff. Sure Gaga, Perry & Ke$ha’s music is fun to jam to when you’re shit-faced drunk in a club, but how so many people can actually enjoy listening to such stupid lyrics and such annoying background music for hours on end is beyond me. And I’m not that old, I should be enjoying music like that but I can’t unless totally hammered.

    Well, I’m kinda old and I like SOME of Gaga, Katy and other pop songs, but I wouldn’t listen to anyone’s music for “hours on end”. I can’t generalize when it comes to music – I just enjoy what I enjoy from almost every genre, and often for different reasons. I love the diversity of the different kinds of music that are available, even if I don’t appreciate a lot of it.

    ETA:

    if his album ends up being bad it won’t be his fault.

    And if it’s good, it’s all James’ responsibility despite Interscope’s incompetence? OK. :)

  • JOJOSIE

    James is the only Idol this year that I would actually pay to see in concert. I believe he will be very popular on the tour. Lots of folks want to bring back “good” music and I always wish them luck. Someone posted that by trying out for Idol he was begging for a record deal. Then all my favorites like Adam, Cook, and Taylor, etc. must have all been begging too. Interesting theory, I just feel they are all hoping for one. Hope to me is a very driving emotion. I basically just like James. His voice and he has charisma. Something I think others like Haley, despite being good singers, seem to lack.

  • koshka

    That was another point I was wanting to make-people were bitching about the quality of the tracks produced this year for the studio versions. They were produced by Interscope and people were questioning their quality. Remember, Interscope has Blink 182, Lady Gaga, One Republic, No Doubt, Enrique Iglesias, U2, Timbaland-all big stars.

    I listen to many interscope artist own music from 6 of the 7 you listed.. many others. IMO they either had zero time or didn’t put much effort into producing tracks that would produce big bucks. I tend to think it falls somewhere in between. These are not normal album quality tracks.

  • smeggingnuts

    Something I think others like Haley, despite being good singers, seem to lack.

    I think that basically boils down to personal preferances just like what is “good” music its all personal taste and there isn’t a good or bad.

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    Then who is to blame? Its not like Interscope is brain dead in how to make an album. They are pretty huge and have a lot of credibility in the music industry.

    But rock, especially heavy rock & metal, isn’t their specialty, pop & hip hop is. Roadrunner is the best label for the kind of music James wants to do, they specialize in rock & metal, but it isn’t an option because it isn’t part of UMG.

    What I meant about James album being “bad” is if it ends up being overproduced & generic, like the production of the Green Day song. That’s in additon to the songs being senseless fluff. An album like that can be commercially successful but it isn’t bringing anything new or exciting to the table. This GR (TOYL) cover in no way represents James’ vocal or music style. If James’ album sounds like that it could mean that James will not stand out and will end up drowning in the sea of contemporary rock instead of breaking ground. Even if the sales are decent he’s too good for that. Sure fine he can make contemporary music, I’ll still buy it, but does he have to sound exactly like everyone else?

  • stargazed

    James’ great voice was wasted on that song. Anyone could have sung it.

  • BillyBobJoeBill

    After all the metal, “I brought hard rock to Idol,” talk, if this is the direction he ends up going, it will be a little funny. And a little sad.

    This.
    “Bringin’ metal back” one cover at a time.

    This song is just weird.

  • jinxx315

    I can’t stand this song to begin with, and James kind of sounds like an imitation of the original. I’ll pass!

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    James’ great voice was wasted on that song. Anyone could have sung it.

    That’s excatly it! James needs to make music that will fit and showcase his voice, not monotone generic stuff that practically anyone can sing.

  • sr4mjc

    I don’t drink, but I like a lot of Gaga (well, old Gaga) , Katy and Kesha’s music. I think Katy’s rollout was nothing short of marketing brilliance. No, it’s not Dark Side of the Moon, but it’s fun. That’s what Pop music is to me.

  • smeggingnuts

    Nice to know that James is going change and revolutionalize the music industry just like Crystal did last year and Adam the year before…..hehe or could just let him put out the music he is going to put out without placing the fate of music as we know it on his shoulders.

  • Moria Polonius

    What I meant about James album being “bad” is if it ends up being overproduced & generic, like the production of the Green Day song. That’s in additon to the songs being senseless fluff. An album like that can be commercially successful but it isn’t bringing anything new or exciting to the table.

    Actually, if the album does end up “bad” according to that definition, it will be only James’s fault. Only the artist is capable of making their music non-generic, new and exciting. If James agrees to record senseless fluff, it’s on him.

    Roadrunner is the best label for the kind of music James wants to do, they specialize in rock & metal, but it isn’t an option because it isn’t part of UMG.

    James was the one who made the decision to go on Idol, the pop staple of America. He went to the wrong place if his goal was to be the next metal god. It’s only his fault if he doesn’t end up with the kind of music he wants to make. Idol hopefuls should have learned by now that the only thing Idol will provide them with is a fanbase, not a blessing to do whatever they feel is their artistic calling.

  • chrislongisland

    I disagree that no one from Idol gets to do what they want. Crystal actually got to do exactly what she wanted, and her album (which I LOVE) features 10 songs she wrote of 12 songs total.

  • Montavilla
    That was another point I was wanting to make-people were bitching about the quality of the tracks produced this year for the studio versions. They were produced by Interscope and people were questioning their quality. Remember, Interscope has Blink 182, Lady Gaga, One Republic, No Doubt, Enrique Iglesias, U2, Timbaland-all big stars.

    I listen to many interscope artist own music from 6 of the 7 you listed.. many others. IMO they either had zero time or didn’t put much effort into producing tracks that would produce big bucks. I tend to think it falls somewhere in between. These are not normal album quality tracks.

    I wish I had the sources for you, but I don’t. There was more than one interview with the music producers for Idol this season where they expressed amazement at how fast they had to work in order to get the Itunes songs out on time. I seem to remember someone saying that they would have a day to do stuff that would normally take a week.

    So I think it’s probably mostly time that kept these songs from being as good as they could be. I think, also, it may have a bit to do with the production team being new this year. The previous seasons were different producers, right? And they had gotten used to working fast.

    Another factor might be how creative/assertive/familiar with the material a given Idol is. Michael Slezak kept saying that Seasons 7, 8, and 9 turned into “Song Arrangement Idol” and, if you listen to the Itunes songs from that era, there is a lot of re-arrangement going on. I think it’s more likely to happen in the earlier weeks, when there’s more time to think about the songs. Towards the end of the season, very few of the finalists had the stamina to keep producing inventive musical arrangements.

    So, James has one song that doesn’t say much for his voice or his skills. It’s not like he suddenly turned into a hack. IMO, he was always more about the performance than the vocal and he probably would have killed the song on the show. As for his future recordings, he’ll be as hard as Jimmy lets him be — and probably harder when he sings live. His fans are definitely going to enjoy his concerts.

  • HR

    Every year someone claims an Idol is going to re-invent the musical landscape and bring back a sound from another era into the mainstream. Last year it was Crystal who was supposed to have these millions of music lovers orphaned from modern radio that would descend on her album and make it the best selling hit of the year reviving her style of music.

    It is not going to happen.

    Crystal fought with her label and got the album she wanted except one song that was meant to be her single. She fought them on that too and it wasn’t released. The result of that little adventure is they didn’t support her choice strongly, she sold barely 200,000 and now she’s looking to break in on the edges of the country scene with her future at the label tenuous at best.

    There is no guarentee James will be successful if he pursues a modern rock album but I do know they aren’t going to support a metal album or hard rock album. He won’t be played on rock radio. I think based on his own words that James is open to a modern sound because he wants to put food on the table and finance that child’s education.

    I could see the label allowing him a couple of filler hard rock songs but they’ll never release them to radio.

  • http://emuisemo.pbworks.com eilonwy

    hehe or could just let him put out the music he is going to put out without placing the fate of music as we know it on his shoulders.

    Please! That way, if Durbin does put out something moderately interesting (and he’s got talent, so why not?), those of us who aren’t fans can be pleased and maybe buy it, without feeling we’re wasting our money if it doesn’t revolutionize music.

    There’s plenty of room on my hard drive for songs that are well-produced, show a compelling point of view, and offer some interesting musical or lyrical features — and that’s how most musicians make a living. (And to be fair, that’s how I’d characterize the work of the Idol alum of whom I’m most obviously a fan.) It’s really okay not to lead the revolution — and very practical to ask oneself how one’s sound is going to fit with contemporary radio and marketing.

  • Moria Polonius

    I disagree that no one from Idol gets to do what they want. Crystal actually got to do exactly what she wanted, and her album (which I LOVE) features 10 songs she wrote of 12 songs total.

    Generally, I think they can get to do what they want as long as what they want is what the label wants. In the case of Crystal, Daytripper73 explained much better than I could:

    Daytripper73 says:
    06/26/2011 at 2:30 pm

    Crystal came to Jive with a catalog of fully written and conceived songs at a time when Jive knew Sony wasn’t going to continue the relationship with AI. It worked out well for Crystal and her fans, but the turn her tale took had more to do with keeping things cheap, finishing out the obligations to AI, and realizing she was truly an odd duck artistically (in terms of their other artists). The exception to the rule, so to speak. Jimmy Iovine appears to sign people to fill specific roles and if they don’t like it, or there’s not a role for them to fill, they won’t get signed.

  • Elliegrll

    After all the metal, “I brought hard rock to Idol,” talk, if this is the direction he ends up going, it will be a little funny. And a little sad.

    More than likely this is one of the songs that James would have performed during top three week, and has nothing to do with any music that will appear on his debut album.

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    So, James has one song that doesn’t say much for his voice or his skills. It’s not like he suddenly turned into a hack. IMO, he was always more about the performance than the vocal and he probably would have killed the song on the show. As for his future recordings, he’ll be as hard as Jimmy lets him be — and probably harder when he sings live. His fans are definitely going to enjoy his concerts.

    That is a great point indeed. James like most rockers are better onstage than in the studio. And he most certainly will be heavier live even Daughtry is heavier live. And his concerts will totally rock, he’s the only S10 contestant I’ll ever pay to see live.

    And I also believe he would’ve killed that song on the show and would’ve probably rocked it hard.

  • http://youtube.com/user/ConcertCameraCat Sparkles

    I’m a Green Day fan & I didn’t mind James’ version. He sounds a lot like Billie Joe on this song which is alright by me. For his CD, I hope he does some original songs similar to this or to my fave “Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow” as I prefer it to the hair metal stuff. Although, I will admit that I want to see fire & explosions and hear screaming metal on the tour.
    All of the early Idol recordings are crap if you ask me. The debut CD’s are almost all crap except for maybe a few songs here & there. It’s hard to predict which Idol, if any, will have a best selling CD. I wish them all luck though & maybe one of them will actually surprise me with a quality recording…one can hope!

  • Montavilla

    James like most rockers are better onstage than in the studio. And he most certainly will be heavier live even Daughtry is heavier live. And his concerts will totally rock, he’s the only S10 contestant I’ll ever pay to see live.

    I know that my favorite Idol changes up his songs when he sings them live. I consider it getting double value, since I can enjoy the original produced tracks or the live ones. (I like them both in different ways.)

    I think you’re right about James killing that song live. He wouldn’t be the only Idol this season who did a studio track and then changed the arrangement before the live show.

  • koshka

    I wish I had the sources for you, but I don’t. There was more than one interview with the music producers for Idol this season where they expressed amazement at how fast they had to work in order to get the Itunes songs out on time. I seem to remember someone saying that they would have a day to do stuff that would normally take a week.

    I’m pretty sure we’ve both been around more than a season to know their timing is tight. Some how this has winded away from my original point that

    1) The production sucks on this track, but they all seem to suck.

    2) I think to my tastes these are one notch worse than the steaming mess RCA used to produce – which doesn’t say much.

    3) Someone way early in this thread spoke about how important this season is to Interscope. Which I didn’t necessarily agree since the track quality didn’t seem to take priority.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Every single Idol fan says that their favorite is an amazing live performer. Every one.

    ETA:

    3) Someone way early in this thread spoke about how important this season is to Interscope. Which I didn’t necessarily agree since the track quality didn’t seem to take priority.

    Interscope knows that Idol fans aren’t fussy buyers. They become invested in their favorites and will buy regardless of any production values, so Interscope can save money.

  • Trina

    There was never a single indication Roadrunner had any interest in James so I wouldn’t say RR not being part of UMG is the problem there. Let’s say 19/UMG decided not to sign James. Should he have waited around hoping RR or some other rock label would offer him something? Or turned down the deal he did get to wait? He’s got a LONG way to go to gain that kind of rock acceptance. Having people like Rob Halford and Zakk Wylde support him isn’t a bad thing but I can’t see a full on rock label signing someone right off AI.

    Oh and I LOVE Katy Perry’s albums. Can’t stand Gaga, but I got hooked on KP the last couple of months. Her songs are good, catchy fun. Some of my favorite artists range from No Doubt to Adele to Michael Jackson to the Stones so I’m pretty diverse and don’t just listen to current fluff.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    James makes me smile. I enjoyed this. :-)

  • http://emuisemo.pbworks.com eilonwy

    Every single Idol fan says that their favorite is an amazing live performer.

    Well, when they perform dead, they’re kinda… stiff, y’know? Live is so much better.

  • Montavilla

    Every single Idol fan says that their favorite is an amazing live performer.

    There’s probably a very good reason for that. :)

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    @Trina

    I wouldn’t say RR had no interest in James, they published articles on Blabbermouth regularly, they followed his Idol journey.

  • fuzzywuzzy
    Every single Idol fan says that their favorite is an amazing live performer.

    There’s probably a very good reason for that. :)

    Of course. It’s because they’re fans. To them, their favorite is an amazing performer, live. They all are. Every single one.

  • JoCeeisme

    Well I didn’t have any trouble recognising James’ voice, did I love the track no, but I enjoyed it, I enjoy whatever James does. I doubt very much that James had a choice of what to put on the EP, if he had I’m sure Heavy Metal would have been there and that would have pleased me as it is one of my favourites. As far as the direction James goes in, who knows, he can’t dictate what he want, he can only hope to get what he wants but I am sure James would not put out an album of songs like ‘Good Riddance’ I have faith and until proven wrong I think James will have a good album as far as he is able.

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    OK I just listened to the snippet of this song on Walmart’s website and it doesn’t sound the same! The one on Walmart’s site is definitely James singing, I recognized his voice immediately. The one on YouTube linked to this blog is a fake! It’s in the same key, but sounds like a lower voice, with different pronunciation and inflections. Listen & compare: http://www.walmart.com/ip/16878292?findingMethod=rr

  • songsungblue

    Sounds the same to me. But every computer sounds different. I guess?

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    I listened through headphones, it does not sound the same.

  • Moria Polonius

    Listened to both: the same. If there’s a difference, it’s probably due to compression quality.

  • ross

    Every single Idol fan says that their favorite is an amazing live performer. Every one.

    It’s because they’re fans. To them, their favorite is an amazing performer, live. They all are. Every single one.

    Of course, fans are biased towards their favorites, but that doesn’t mean you have to throw out the baby with the bathwater. I’ve never seen an instance of someone who is usually described as “amazing live” who isn’t, in fact, pretty amazing, live. Idol or otherwise.

    And twitter has shown me that a lot of people seeing my favorite for the first time can, and do, say he’s amazing, live. They’re not Idol fans.

    You know, the idols usually are great live performers. That’s why they were chosen for the TV show in the first place.

    When most of us first saw our Idol favorites, they were performing live on TV. We didn’t discover them on recordings or radio. I think it follows that people who are good on live TV, in 90-second snippets, are going to be much, much better than good, when you see them in a real concert setting.

    YMMV, of course.

  • koshka

    Moria Polonius says:
    06/26/2011 at 8:41 pm
    Listened to both: the same. If there’s a difference, it’s probably due to compression quality.

    My thought on both counts.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Of course, fans are biased towards their favorites, but that doesn’t mean you have to throw out the baby with the bathwater. I’ve never seen an instance of someone who a great many people say is amazing, live, who isn’t, in fact, pretty amazing, live.

    I disagree, and it’s not just Idol fans. Performers like Taylor Swift and Katy Perry who don’t sing well live are loved by millions. Some of the more recent Idols were frequently pitchy on the show (Lee), yet their fans talk about how wonderful they are live. My point is that fans will always say that their favorite is a great performer live. Always. It’s subjective, and that’s great for those fans, but it doesn’t make it a fact.

  • mada23

    Sounds the same. It’s just the compression. Same thing with Haley’s. The compression changes when you actually open the video up in youtube site. But it’s the same voice…

  • ross

    I disagree, and it’s not just Idol fans. Performers like Taylor Swift and Katy Perry who don’t sing well live are loved by millions.
    Some of the more recent Idols were frequently pitchy on the show (Lee), yet their fans talk about how wonderful they are live. My point is that fans will always say that their favorite is a great performer live. Always. It’s subjective, and that’s great for those fans, but it doesn’t make it a fact.

    And nothing will make it a fact. It’s always subjective.

    You can’t prove someone is an amazing performer. Live, or otherwise. It’s not provable. It’s not objective. It’s just an opinion.

    I’m sure there are millions who think Katy and Taylor are amazing, live. If you happen to think they aren’t, that’s your subjective opinion. Good luck trying to prove to those fans that it’s a fact.

    I understand what you were saying, originally, I was just trying to point out a fan’s opinion is as valid as anyone else’s opinion.

  • Suzanne

    I thought this sounded great.

    What’s the story behind the recording? Was it going to be the judges choice or Jimmy’s?

  • chessguy99

    What’s the story behind the recording? Was it going to be the judges choice or Jimmy’s?

    This has to be Jimmy’s pick. I can see Jimmy steering James into a Green Day path, catchy/edgy rock. The song is well suited for his voice, yet challenges him; similar to the picks Jimmy made for the other three.

  • SajiNoKami

    … 146 comments… o.o

    I enjoyed this one, he sounds so different, almost a different person, but it does comes off as believable to me.
    One thing that is odd, James sounds younger. He normally he seems to just go through this part of his voice to hit the higher, but he is in it for the whole thing, so he sounds young. Really a different area in his voice. Also another thing that became noticeable because the song it self is steady, the way James annunciates words stands out, quirky.

    This does not sound auto tuned at all, because he is just straight on singing with no vocal acrobatic attempts, it does not need it. I do really think the pitch issues on stage come from him either getting too excited or emotional because when he is just calm and sings, he sounds great. All the quirky elements are still in his voice.

    Jimmy’s Picks really seemed to show the positives and negatives in the voices.

    Either way, buying the kid’s album, it was his studio of Uprising that got me to even watch the show and vote this year.

  • TurkeyIdol

    Oh My…this is soooo Karaoke!!! I mean if they aren’t going to change it up just a little at least, why not just buy Green Days version as it is way better! I guess Jimmy Iovine was correct when he told James “Can’t Find the pitch” Durbin, that he was destined for HAC. Give metal a chance….I guess not? I would guess that the realities of marketing and successfully selling a Metal Album in 2012, as hit James as just a pipe dream! :)

  • eyelinerandcigarettes

    What the heck. This does not sound like him at all.

  • adolf_hipster

    Nice karaoke version. It’s a great song and James sounds almost exactly like the original.

    Hopefully James’s a good songwriter, because he’s gonna have credibility issues anyway, so singing other people’s songs could be career killer in rock (assuming that they’re gonna market him to rock audience).

    Anyway it’s gonna be interesting to see his post-idol career, especially if UMG is gonna be able to get him rock airplay or not.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    And nothing will make it a fact. It’s always subjective.

    You can’t prove someone is an amazing performer. Live, or otherwise. It’s not provable. It’s not objective. It’s just an opinion.

    I’m sure there are millions who think Katy and Taylor are amazing, live. If you happen to think they aren’t, that’s your subjective opinion. Good luck trying to prove to those fans that it’s a fact.

    I understand what you were saying, originally, I was just trying to point out a fan’s opinion is as valid as anyone else’s opinion.

    All true. What I’m saying is that certain qualities that some/most would expect from singers (especially Idol singers – singing in tune, not lip synching) aren’t often qualities that fans expect from their favorites (especially since technology can “fix” intonation in the studio). I guess that I just find it sort of pointless for people to use “he/she is a great performer live!” as a way to persuade people that their favorite is wonderful. Fans will always feel that way. It all depends on what qualities a person thinks that a singer should have when performing live.

    ETA:

    You can’t prove someone is an amazing performer. Live, or otherwise. It’s not provable. It’s not objective. It’s just an opinion.

    Certain qualities are “provable”. Like pitchiness. That’s a fact, not an opinion.

  • ituneit

    Certain qualities are “provable”. Like pitchiness. That’s a fact, not an opinion.

    Very true and something Durbin struggles with greatly live. His performances can be so pitchy as to make them unpleasant. This is a reason I would never see him live or buy his music.

  • Montavilla

    I guess that I just find it sort of pointless for people to use “he/she is a great performer live!” as a way to persuade people that their favorite is wonderful. Fans will always feel that way. It all depends on what qualities a person thinks that a singer should have when performing live.

    Just to clarify: When I spoke about my favorite performing live, my point wasn’t about the amazingness of it It was that he performed substantially different than the songs were recorded. As in, sometimes completely different arrangements, tempo, mood, etc.

    And I said my “favorite” because that’s the one I know about. I’m sure that everyone makes changes in live performances. I know they do, if only because they can’t lug Bandzilla along with them to Regis and Kelly — or to that gig at Lake Tahoe.

    The point of that being that there’s no reason that, even if James needs to record songs that are less metal and more pop/rock, it doesn’t mean he can’t change things up when he performs. After all, he turned “Love Potion #9″ into a rock song.

    In that way, James might be able to satisfy both Jimmy and his fans. That is, assuming that Jimmy isn’t going to have James take the metal rock route to begin with.

    I’m not really expecting James to put a band together before he records his first cd. It doesn’t seem logistically possible — unless James is developed like Casey James is and his first cd is held off for a year. But I am expecting that when the Durbinator starts touring, he’ll be able to put together a group and start to jell with the live performances.

    But, you know, all this angst could be for naught. Maybe they will take more time with James. Maybe they’ll even have him start touring before he starts recording. After all, with four other Idols signed from Season 10, there’s less pressure to get his cd out.

  • fuzzywuzzy
    Certain qualities are “provable”. Like pitchiness. That’s a fact, not an opinion.

    Very true and something Durbin struggles with greatly live. His performances can be so pitchy as to make them unpleasant. This is a reason I would never see him live or buy his music.

    I agree. For me, if a performer is pitchy, then I’m not going to enjoy seeing them live, no matter how many bells and whistles they have.

    Just to clarify: When I spoke about my favorite performing live, my point wasn’t about the amazingness of it It was that he performed substantially different than the songs were recorded. As in, sometimes completely different arrangements, tempo, mood, etc.

    I understood that, but it’s all part of the “—- is AMAZING live!!” opinion. I just think that those opinions are so universal, that they pretty much are standard PR from fans of anyone. I know that those fans are being honest and genuine, but since it’s said about everyone, it tends to lose impact. It all depends on what people want/like in a performer. :)

  • tinawina

    This sounds so much like the Green Day version it’s a little eerie. I don’t think I’ve ever heard James’ voice sound like this before.

    Oh well. Bring on the original music!

  • NatalijaS

    It sounds basically identical to the original…all the intonations are the same as is the vocal tone. It’s like he’s impersonating Billie Joe Armstrong.

  • SajiNoKami

    Been listening to it in the car and I still like it, idk, maybe I just have a soft spot for James… I just really like this guy, but I don’t expect everyone to, do hope radio gives him a chance. It is like pulling teeth to get the radio to play idols around her, except the country station for some reason. The thing that is getting me… one song, 156 comments.. 75% negative though. I am perplexed why James is getting more comments than the Haley track. She seems to be popular on these blogs.

  • Tess

    This sounds so much like the Green Day version it’s a little eerie.

    Maybe this is my hang-up with James. Other than his rocker wails he seems, to me, to mimic rather than interpret songs. I think he has a good ear but I don’t know if he has the “guts” to make a song truly his own. Guess I’ll wait and see, though I think it might be a while before we hear his album.

  • Tera2

    I think the voice is still like James. James has a special voice that has a wide range and can reach dolphin’s level — that’s why I like his voice. (he used dolphin range in part of Bon Jovi’s “I’ll be there for you” studio version) His voice also fits 1960’s music – and that “Time of your life’ has that retro 60s to early 70’s vibe, and subdue style of singing. (Which is partly why Jimmy Iovine loves his voice) James is singing in his mid register on that song like he did in “Will you still love me tomorrow” — if you listen to that and “Time of your life” you see its James’s voice in similar register.

    What makes people think his voice is too much like the original Green Day guy is cause his mid range maybe similar, and James sang the song exactly like the original without changing the melody or putting his spin on it. (it wasnt covered on the show like others and probably rushed) The only difference is they changed the beats a bit and gave it an Irish vibe like I said in my previous post. I think his mid register in “Will you still love me tomorrow” is his most natural register — but he can go low and high and wail when he sings hard rock, and that’s what people tend to judge his voice by or expects. But there is more to his voice. That’s why Jimmy said he got into music biz cause of voices like James.

    listen to clip of him singing “will you still love me tomorrow” and “Time of your life” here – you see its similar, and they are both subdue style singing. http://mp3.walmart.com/store/artist?albumId=106125523

  • koshka

    Maybe this is my hang-up with James. Other than his rocker wails he seems, to me, to mimic rather than interpret songs. I think he has a good ear but I don’t know if he has the “guts” to make a song truly his own. Guess I’ll wait and see, though I think it might be a while before we hear his album.

    Well thats my rub since about after the first 1/2 of the season. Usually a contestant has a certain style that they are drawn to then select songs or have them rearranged to fit their style. I heard a lot of imitation, but I never knew what his style was. Is it heavy metal, Rock with pop influences, Pop Rock. I don’t think its a good thing to have people (and fans) wondering what vein of music he is going to go into.. that leads me to believe he didn’t clearly define his path during the season or have his talking points approved by 19. ;)

  • ituneit

    Well, you guys are saying exactly what all the music bloggers all well as Jimmy Iovine has been saying. Durbin copies. He doesn’t have a style of his own. He simply lifts others peoples styles. Plus there is something very unpleasant about his voice live. When I saw him do the talk show circuit his singing made me cringe.

  • tinawina

    I think he has a good ear but I don’t know if he has the “guts” to make a song truly his own. Guess I’ll wait and see, though

    I agree he does have mimic tendencies sometimes, but I do want to give him a shot to see what he does with his own material.

    I think James has a real flair for theatrical visuals and knows how to put on a show. If he can work out the whole developing a distinctive vocal style thing, I think he could carve a nice career for himself. Good luck to him.

  • Milly21

    of course James could put on a good show on IDOL. he had all the money in the world thrown at him. you think he’s gonna get all those bells and whistles in real life as a brand new artist? Hell no! Lololol Personally i feel he really lacks without the pyro to hide his vocal pitchiness. and yes i agree he needs to find his own sound and vocal style instead of mimicking the vocals of others as in this recording

  • Montavilla

    of course James could put on a good show on IDOL. he had all the money in the world thrown at him. you think he’s gonna get all those bells and whistles in real life as a brand new artist? Hell no!

    If he ever gets that lunch with Adam, he should ask for advice on how to do a visually-oriented tour on a tight budget.

  • Desdemona

    Just an observation about MJ’s – not being a fan site or blog – is that every year there seems to be one idol, more than all the rest, that sorta dominates the threads:

    Taylor Season 5, Blake (I think) Season 6, Cookie Season 7, Adam Season 8, Crystal Season 9, and Haley Season 10.

    I was on board with Season 5, 7, and 9, but ‘the ones’ for 6, 8, and 10 are 3 of my LEAST favorites of the idols. Funny how we are so turned on by some and so turned off by others. What makes the world go round, huh. :)

  • SajiNoKami

    was on board with Season 5, 7, and 9, but ‘the ones’ for 6, 8, and 10 are 3 of my LEAST favorites of the idols.

    I still just surprised how many post this thread has for people not liking james very much.

  • Desdemona

    I still just surprised how many post this thread has for people not liking james very much.

    I know. Kinda sad, isn’t it, that so many people here feel that way. And some have to say it so many times! LOL

  • http://MJO judes

    He wouldn’t be the only Idol this season who did a studio track and then changed the arrangement before the live show.

    …. and on every season of idol. I remember being disappointed many times listening to the stiudio versions of several idols over the seasons as their live version was so good [more their own style] whereas the studio versions are more what the producers want.
    For me I quite like the way James is singing TOYL -its the backing that’s a bit ho hum .
    I feel the difference between idols doing their own live shows & album tracks is massive as by then they have their own band or musicians who tend to play the song the way the idol wants whereas on the idol’s first album at least , they have to use session musicians- that to me makes a world of difference & I am sure for James this will be the same .

  • JoCeeisme

    I don’t think there are a lot of people here that don’t like James, I think it is just a group of people that have to say the same thing over and over and over again, and that is kind of sad isn’t it. “We hate some persons because we do not know them and we will not know them because we hate them” – Charles Colton.