James Arthur: Heading For a Career Suicide?

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James records a homophobic rap …

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James Arthur continues with the sabotage of his own career and pissing off his management and label.

After Matt Cardle, boybands and their fans and many others, James started a rap feud with unsigned UK rapper Micky Worthless. I posted Mickey’s rap yesterday in the Headlines thread, it contains strong language.

STAY IN YOUR LANE, JAMES (NSFW)

JAMES ARTHUR – HEY MICKEY – MICKY WORTHLESS DISS REPLY (NSFW)

http://youtu.be/Ic_xJD1-6y4

James Arthur responded with his own rap and posted it on Soundcloud, but he deleted it afterwards. That rap contained some homophobic stuff. Openly gay comedian Matt Lucas got really upset, James has already issued an apology.

UnrealityTV blog has a good recap of everything that happened on twitter.

James Arthur in yet ANOTHER Twitter row! This time it’s with rapper Micky Worthless #HeadingForCareerSuicide?

X Factor’s James Arthur apologises to Matt Lucas for homophobic rant!

MusicWeek: James Arthur apologises after ‘f**cking queer’ lyric angers listeners

So, the apology goes like this:

My my, Syco and James’ management must be totally pissed. His debut album only dropped on November 4 – not even two weeks ago.

 
  • Oldhag

    He sure does a good job of keeping his name in the news.

  • CaioF

    Well, at least hes not assuming himself as a homophobic, caliing his gay friends etc. But this really brings again the question about the content on some rap lyrics.

  • Candy

    It’s ironic that his excuse is that these ‘homophobic slurs’ in rap aren’t really homophobic, when the opposite (that the rap world is used to using homophobic slurs in their culture) is probably the truth. The good news is that an incident like this can bring that dichotomy to light, and hopefully make rap artists think twice about furthering that usage.

  • HermeticallySealed

    Gods, I am sick of these idiot rappers and their “Oh, I didn’t meant these anti-gay slurs to refer to gays.” Seriously, it’s disingenuous and frankly not very believable.

  • Karen C

    Wow, that was not a good idea at all. I’m sure the label won’t be happy with this, unless they like even negative press. Even so I’m sure the show won’t be happy.

  • Face

    idiot

  • Porfivor Nixon

    I think it will depend on whether he does it again. I mean, he seemed to sincerely apologize and as someone being gay, I can accept apologies like that and move on. I mean, not long ago, people wouldn’t even apologize for things like this, at least it’s good we’ve gotten to the point where they know it’s wrong. But I think it will be okay as long as he doesn’t do it again. I mean, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

  • Larc

    It’s funny how often people who diss Gays claim to have Gay friends, just as those who diss Blacks will claim to have Black friends or Jewish friends if they’ve dissed Jews. As if that somehow proves they are basically really pure of heart and meant no disrespect. But it’s a cheap attempt at camouflage of their true nature that doesn’t work. It almost makes them worse if they would diss those they claim as friends.

  • No Thanks

    He’s and idiot. Forever talking shit about someone. This isn’t the first time he’s stuck his foot in his mouth. Another artist who deems himself “credible” and thus more worthy of success than other pop acts like One Direction. The Matt Cardle is strong in this one.

    Why can’t these stuck up music snobs just focus on THEIR music and THEIR careers instead of worrying about others?

  • Incipit

    “The Matt Cardle is strong in this one.”

    Very succinct explanation – pretty much covers it.

  • Montavilla

    All I can say these British pop stars don’t mess around. This puts any AI “feud” to shame. :)

  • Ronnie D

    I can’t stand it when people use the excuse “well in my culture it’s ok to say it.” These people need to friggen grow up.

  • kcostell

    It’s a shame. He has talent, and his winner’s single was a great launching point. But he seems so obsessed with proving that he’s somehow “better” or “cooler” than the X-Factor that he’s well on his way to throwing it all away.

  • Max

    Just like Alec Baldwin trotting out his gay hairstylist. Homophobic may not be the right word to use in a lot of situations. People assign different meanings to it. Literally, it can be interpreted as fear of gay people vs prejudice. A lot of people just are used to using gay as a derogatory slam at someone and they don’t realize that is offensive. Alec does it all the time. First he denied he said the F gay slur (although pretty much everyone agrees he did) but then refused to realize that calling a man a c–ksucker is obviously trying to denigrate him…You’re either trying to say being gay is bad or you’re trying to say he’s a girl. Either is wrong, but he might have thought he was calling him a weak girl – not a gay man

  • Max

    Sadly rappers like Eminem continue to get away with homophobic slurs. Why don’t we hear people bringing more attention to Eminem’s new album. I don’t listen to his music but heard he again has used a lot of anti-gay language in them

  • HermeticallySealed

    Are you kidding? There has been a lot of bitching about that. Sia (who sang on one of his songs) is donating her profits from it to charity after people called her out for working with him on the album.

  • Candy

    The primary demo for rap music is young men, which also happens to be the population most fearful of being thought gay, at the early stages of their sexual development. Unfortunately the common response to something you fear is to call it out first, hoping to deflect any attention or claim from yourself.

  • Miz

    I had no idea that ‘c…s……’ was another word for girl, or gay.

  • Miz

    I have no clue who either of these people are. Of course, I don’t listen to or like rap.

  • Candy

    For homophobes, alluding to a guy in female terms is the same as calling him gay. Women are weak, gays are weak – that’s the thinking behind this. It’s why you often hear the insult in a locker-room where the coach calls the big burly men ‘ladies’.

  • wordnerdarchie

    What a loser.

  • elliegrll

    James Arthur isn’t a rapper. He is a WGWG songwriter who won the last season of the X Factor. Unfortunately, like too many recent reality show contestants who don’t want to be seen as pop singers, he’s also full of himself, thinks he’s better than the show that launched his so called career, and is not as good as he thinks he is.

    He won because he was given credit for rearranging covers of famous songs, but he hasn’t proven that he can write, or get people to buy his original music. Until he gets to that point he needs to get off of his high horse, and calm the heck down.

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  • breakdown

    I guess I’m glad I’ve never heard of him!

  • Blackbeat

    Possibly a publicity stunt but anyways what was he thinking? His debut album isn’t selling well and then he resorts to this?

  • Bugme Nomor

    “James Arthur @JamesArthur23
    6h
    #LOVE to my fans but I’m coming off twitter for good. HQ will be doing all my tweets from now on. PEACE!”

  • LongKissGoodnight

    Ok , so where are pitchforks and torches for Micky Worthless who written a diss rap to James that starts with invitation to “loop up your ass course Louis and Simone are gonna to slip you one at the same time” repeatedly calling him faggot and has “you sucked Simone’s bell and Louis too” for a hook?
    No one seems to care when rapper does it, correct?
    I see inequality all right, and James who attempted to talk with his opponent with the same language that was used on him is obviously not the main perpetrator. Poor thing did not seem to realize that rappers are granted immunity on all kinds of derogatory language, but using their slang even as retort can lead to ass backboards accusations like this one.
    It’s the same bullshit like a recent scandal when white female celebrity dared to sing along “nigger” at a rappers concert. A fan repeating the words of the song after their idol??? Shocker!

    P.S. Oh, by the way have you seen how I used derogatory gay and racial slang in this post. Am I going to be called a homophobic racist now?
    Because under this king of logic, I should.

  • kcostell

    In other words “Okay, the barn door’s closed. Hopefully the horses will come back sooner or later”.

  • wayne strong

    The hey micky song is actually alright for british stuff. I kinda like it. This hypersensitive shit has to stop. The people walking around getting offended by everything lead sad pathetic lives.

  • Karen C

    He’s more hip hop but I think he did put some rap in his songs even on the show.

  • elliegrll

    The excuse that doing something wrong is excusable, because someone else also did it usually doesn’t hold up when five year olds try to use it as a defense, and it doesn’t hold up when adults try to use it either. As the saying goes, two wrongs don’t make a right.

    Adults take responsibility for their actions, and should know right from wrong. Trying to make it seem like it’s alright to be racist or homophobic just because others are is a lazy cop out. People should just be honest and admit that they feel that they have a right to spout ignorant slurs, and stop trying to hide behind the excuse that it is alright because other people use the slurs too.

  • Not fit to print

    If the world was only as large as your example, you might have a point but it isn’t.

    Do you think that no penalty is paid for the lowered cultural expectations that society applies to rappers like MC Worthless? Try and be an average African American male looking for work. The image that cultivates street cred for high-profile rappers is paid for every day by these young men when they walk into a job interview.

    In the scheme of things, a rapper’s exclusive cultural appropriation of the word “nigger” is a small prize when compared to the passes society gives many other cultural groups.

    When right-wing religious factions claim religious immunity on the matter of homosexuality, they get respectful in-court hearings that barely ruffle their public image (or self-image) as pillars of community rectitude. When young men facing charges of date-rape are protected by TBTB, society reinforces their conviction that it’s okay for boys to be boys and football is more important than justice.

    Life isn’t far and it never will be. Society will mainly take the path of least resistance. That doesn’t mean that individually people shouldn’t be held accountable for their actions.

    The fact that MC Worthless is an a-hole doesn’t make James Arthur any less of one.

  • Not fit to print

    Eminem gets away with it because it’s his “persona” speaking. So technically does MC Worthless, who is just living up to his name. It is complete bullshit, though. (The annoying thing about Eminem is that he quite talented.)

  • LongKissGoodnight

    Sigh…

    Do you understand the concept of subculture?

    That is operating with certain language. The language you are learning to speak when you enter it.

    I don’t’ give a flying fuck about James Arthur but you either have to fight the good fight against subculture and it’s language AS a WHOLE. For example take on the #1 selling artist Eminem. Go ahead…

    Or have a clarity of mind to understand that using the go-to fraise that is considered perfectly acceptable diss within the subculture to rebuttal the challenge that was issued by the insider does not automatically makes James a homophobe (Maybe he is, but this instance does not paint the picture). It makes him guilty of understanding the rules of rap too well and the rules of publicity wars too little.

    That punk rapper is right. If he wants to insult semi-pop dude he has the license to do so, because when the semi-pop dude makes attempt to cross into his artistic field and use the language and rules under which the challenge was issued the VERY SAME WORDS THAT EVERY RAPPER USES are coming out with neon lights inviting happy-to-ignore-the-context-and-get-insulted-for-the-sake-of-flashy-headline media like a siren. While punk rapper is getting off scot free.

    The deep rooted hypocrisy of it all just makes me sick.

  • shell29

    That might be your best bet James. He seems to always be in some sort of Twitter beef with some group or rapper, etc-and he can’t seem to keep his foot out of his mouth.

  • shell29

    At the rate he’s going I think he’s going to outdo Matt Cardle in that regard.

    I liked his performances last season on X Factor but I did think the over the top pimping and praise he got was a bit much. They acted like James was the second coming and I think some of that has definitely gone to his head. He needs to calm down.

  • Not fit to print

    He’s getting off scot-free in part because James’s decision to use MC Worthless’s language not only highlighted how inappropriate the VERY SAME WORDS THAT EVERY RAPPER USES were, they made him James look like a first class homophobic idiot who has no sense of his own place in the culture at large.

    Being a clear-minded student of subcultures, I am sure that you can at least consider elliegirl’s earlier suggestion that James’s rap response may have been a clumsy attempt to shed his “reality show” image before he had de-constructed and reinvented it into something substantial enough to bear the weight of his response to “MC Worthless”.

  • elliegrll

    What does this have to do with cooking strawberries? Just kidding.

    I like a lot of rap music, and have followed the careers of a lot of rappers, and it’s pretty lazy to boil the music and culture down to just the use of homophobic or racist language. In fact, it pretty much ignores the use of those words in the music, as well as the meaning. I think it’s those who don’t understand the culture who just want to write it off as uneducated rappers, who are all homophobic, and who just spout four letter words.

    No rapper made it to the top just because they used those words, and those who rely too heavily on just dissing others look lazy. James considers himself to be a writer, and it would have made more sense if he came up with a creative diss song instead of just falling back on the same homophobic cliches.

  • Damien Roberts

    I’m guessing you’re a white, straight, Christian male? Its generally the people who have never been discriminated against that think people getting offended by things are being sensitive.

  • Damien Roberts

    And what I think needs to stop and is pathetic is the lack of vocabulary skills these late 20-somethings have.

  • Damien Roberts

    Gay slurs are things that teenagers say and (as a gay man) I can acknowledge that they don’t mean the same thing as what the words connotation is, THAT SAID there is an expectation that as these teenagers grow up and become adults that they realize the context of the words they are saying and then stop saying them. Its time for these people, James Arthur, Micky Worthless, and Eminem, to realize that they’re words hold weight and consequences.

  • Eric Ascher

    See, I don’t buy that Matt was EVER this bad. He never engaged in a fan war with anyone – except 1D and even that’s debatable. He might have distanced himself from X Factor, but he still tweets Leona and many other people who were associated with the show. James on the other hand tweets nice things to his two friends from season 9 and insults everyone else. Matt’s engaging with James was solely to protect his own reputation. James engaging with Matt was to be a dick.

  • wayne strong

    My ancestors were toasted alive by hitler. But thanks for exercising your ‘gay privilege’ by bringing up supposed color, sexuality and religion while still getting thumbed up.

  • LongKissGoodnight

    >>They made him James look like a first class homophobic idiot who has no sense of his own place in the culture at large.

    Thank you for highlighting my point.

    There is a class (A.) and then there is class (B.)

    And the fury is that James had the audacity to forget what class he belongs to (per societal division of music and cultural leanings) and use the ammunition allowed for use only to the other class.

    A critical mistake of someone forgetting his place.

    I will say last thing and peace out.
    When there is two set of rules for “Us” and “Them” and people are scolded not for having shitty rules per se, but for using “other team” guide book, well the equality in the name of witch the rules are set have not even slept here.

  • Not fit to print

    So were a lot of homosexuals, which is why some people get “hypersensitive” about homophobic, racist and anti-Semitic comments.

  • Karen C

    The reason the punk rapper isn’t getting the kind of press that James Arthur is getting is because he got famous from a mainstream talent show, not as a rapper. He is well known and is getting press from those outside of the subculture.

  • Face

    reading that Arthur has quit Twitter… post his ‘war of words’ with controversial Scottish ‘comedian’ Frankie Boyle… re: this incident…

  • Not fit to print

    Sigh….

    Do you understand the concept of personal responsibility?

    There’s a big difference between “forgetting his place” and failing to speak from a real place. Clarity of mind……

  • Not fit to print

    THIS. “Some of my best friends are _______”. Right before the zinger.

  • http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ mjsbigblog

    Wow. James has over 2 million twitter followers. WTF? Is that what behaving badly gets an artist?

  • Not fit to print

    Every artist has a following which they ignore at their own peril.

  • Face

    shame (for him and Syco) that only 3% of them bothered to buy his album last week…

  • Mateja Praznik

    James didn’t delete his twitter. I think Syco or his management told him to hand over his twitter account to them. They are now posting updates. But obviously that’s not the same.

  • No Thanks

    This debate doesn’t change the fact that James has become a PR nightmare for his management and label and is killing any goodwill he has with the public at large.

  • Jae

    Who is he?

  • Damien Roberts

    So then the question is would you find it as pathetic if he were making anti-semitic remarks? My point is people need to stop blaming people for being sensitive and start holding ADULTS accountable for their own actions and word choices. I find it funny that we’ve created so much legislation around work place discrimination, yet people jump to defend someone who’s making millions.

  • wayne strong

    People need to be mentally tough, If a word or group of words can destroy you, it says alot.

    Now sometimes, I may not like or endorse the anti-semitism that goes on in this world, but it doesn’t cut deep into my soul or ruin my day especially if its not directed towards me (as would be the case in this rap diss between to individuals). Who doesn’t like a good jew joke every now and then?

    As far as growing legislation, I take a libertarian view on many things including discrimination. Gov’t discrimination = bad, but individuals/businesses should be able to discriminate against anyone, for any reason, at any time. Its not going to be popular around here, but it is what it is.

  • wordnerdarchie

    He won X-Factor UK in 2012.

  • Not fit to print

    Except it isn’t. Thank goodness.

  • Eric Ascher

    James posted this on FB today. Obviously prompted by management but I do believe he wrote it himself. And I hope to god he really did learn his lesson because he is too talented to be destroyed by his mouth.

    “Hey all! This is my very last rant I promise! Lol..
    It’s kinda bugging me how many people are saying Frankie Boyle succeeded in embarrassing me and he is why I left twitter when I really don’t think he did nor is that insignificant troll in anyway affecting me with his bullying. If we are going by moral code the guy is disgusting! Yet he has so many fans that are prepared to send me death threats and say how he embarrassed me. If you think that picking on someone’s appearances and being hypocritical is how you win an argument you must change you’re outlook on life because that is very negative. I love all you fans who are supporting me and buying the record and if you are relating to my messages of overcoming struggle with mental illnesses etc then I hope you are enlightened and I thank you for feeling my music because that is why I am here. Not to be a comedian or a social commentator. From now on I will be keeping my mouth shut and letting my music speak for itself as that is something I truly believe in. love to you all x”

  • Damien Roberts

    People often muddle their rights as if they’re more important than other peoples rights. You have a right to your beliefs and to freedom of speech, but in this country one of our pillar rights is the ability to pursue happiness and liberty. Thus your belief that people or businesses should be able to discriminate makes no sense in the fact that in order to pursue these things there needs to be legislation to protect individuals in order for them to get there.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Chris Brown has over 13,200,000 followers. Like anyone though, a celeb’s actions shape their following.

  • Not fit to print

    Remember how quickly Charlie Sheen accumulated 2 million followers during his meltdown.