Idols on the Billboard 2010 Year End Charts

Concert stats are delayed this morning, so let’s make the daily numbers thread the year-end-chart thread? Takes a while to compile all these lists, so please be patient. Apache keeps crashing.

Billboard has published all the 2010 year-end charts on their website.

This is the daily numbers thread.

Billboard Artist of the Year: (100) #1 Lady Gaga
12 Susan Boyle
23 Carrie Underwood
27 Adam Lambert
51 Daughtry
57 Kris Allen
90 Kelly Clarkson

Hot 100 Artists: (100) #1 Ke$ha
23 Glee
31 Adam Lambert
36 Carrie Underwood
48 Kris Allen
65 Kelly Clarkson


Top Billboard 200 Artists:
(100) #1 Taylor Swift
2 Susan Boyle
12 Carrie Underwood
31 Adam Lambert
41 Daughtry
91 Fantasia
97 Kris Allen

Hot Radio Songs (75) #1 Need You Now – Lady Antebellum
46 Adam Lambert “Whataya Want From Me”
51 Kelly Clarkson “Already Gone”
54 Kris Allen “Live Like We’re Dyin’”

Digital Songs: (75) #1 Ke$ha – Tik Tok
55 Adam Lambert “Whataya Want From Me”
57 Kris Allen “Live Like We’re Dyin’”

Hot Digital Song Artists: (50) #1 Ke$ha
13 Glee
33 Adam Lambert
41 Carrie Underwood
49 Kris Allen

Digital Albums (25) #1 Eminem – Recovery
20 Glee – The Music – Journey to Sectionals

Pop Songs (50) #1 Ke$ha – Tik Tok
48 Adam Lambert “Whataya Want From Me”
49 Kris Allen “Live Like We’re Dyin’”

Dance Club Songs (50) #1 Rocket Goldfrapp
#14 Blake Lewis “Heartbreak on Vinyl”

Dance Club Artists (25) #1 Rihanna
#13 Jennifer Lopez
#21 Blake Lewis

Thanks istersay for the R&B categories

Top Hip-Hop and R&B Songs (100) #1 Alicia Keys – Un-thinkable
#22 Fantasia “Bittersweet”

Top Hip-Hop and R&B Albums (100) #1 Eminem – Recovery
#30 Fantasia “Back To Me”

Hot RandB Hip-Hop Songs Artists (50) #1 Usher
#20 Fantasia

Rock Album (50) #1 John Mayer – Battle Studies
#9 Daughtry “Leave This Town”

Rock Album Artists (10) #1 John Mayer
#9 Daughtry

Hot Country Songs (60) #1 Lee Brice – Love You Like Crazy
#25 Carrie Underwood “Temporary Home”
#29 Carrie Underwood “Undo It”

Hot Country Song Artists (30) #1 Lady Antebellum
#3 Carrie Underwood

Top Country Albums (75) #1 Lady Antebellum – Need You Now
#4 Carrie Underwood “Play On”
#35 Danny Gokey “My Best Days”
#60 Kellie Pickler “Kellie Pickler”

Top Country Album Artists (50) #1 Lady Antebellum
#4 Carrie Underwood
#31 Danny Gokey
#34 Kellie Pickler

Christian Songs (50) #1 Mercy Me – All of Creation
#46 Chris Sligh “Only You Can Save”

Pop Catalog Albums (50) #1 Michael Jackson – Number Ones
#17 Daughtry “Daughtry”
#27 Carrie Underwood “Some Hearts”

Soundtracks (25) #1 Michael Jackson – This is It
#2 Glee: Season 1: The Music 1
#3 Glee: Season 1: The Music 2
#6 Glee: The Music 3
#6 Glee: The Music: Journey To…
#13 Glee: The Music: The Power of Madonna
#23 Glee: The Rocky Horror Glee
Also: BTR (18) feature Clay Aiken and Jordin Sparks

No Idols/Blog Related:
Ringtones (20) #1 Need You Now – Lady Antebellum
Digital Album Artists (10) – #1 Eminem
Ringtone Artists (20) – #1 Eminem
Pop Song Artist (10) #1 Ke$ha
Dance/Electronic Album (25) #1 Lady Gaga – The Fame
Dance/Electronic Artist (10) #1 Lady Gaga
Rap Songs (50) #1 B.o.B. – Nothin’ on You
Rap Artists (10) #1 Drake
Rap Albums (50) #1 Eminem – Recovery
Rap Album Artists (10) #1 Eminem
Christian Song Artists (10) #1 TobyMac
Christian Albums (50) #1 Casting Crowns – Until the World Hears
Christian Album Artists (10) #1 Casting Crowns
Gospel Songs (50) #1 Marvin Sapp – Best in Me
Gospel Song Artists (10) #1 Marvin Sapp
Gospel Albums (50) #1 Marvin Sapp – Here I Am
Gospel Album Artists (10) #1 Marvin Sapp
Independent Albums (50) #1 Jason Aldean – Wide Open (Kelly appears on #8 “My Kind of Party”)
Independent Artist (20) #1 Jason Aldean
Pop Catalog Artists (10) #1 Michael Jackson

Apache Tomcat/Page Load Issues:
Hot 100 Songs
Top Billboard 200
AC Songs
AC Artists
Adult Pop Songs
Adult Pop Artists
Top Hip-Hop and R&B Album Artists
Rock Songs
Rock Artists

  • Kirsten

    Billboard Artist of the Year:
    12 Susan Boyle
    23 Carrie Underwood
    27 Adam Lambert
    51 Daughtry
    57 Kris Allen
    90 Kelly Clarkson

  • Kirsten

    Hot 100 Artists:
    23 Glee
    31 Adam Lambert
    36 Carrie Underwood
    48 Kris Allen
    65 Kelly Clarkson

    Top Billboard 200 Artists:
    2 Susan Boyle
    12 Carrie Underwood
    31 Adam Lambert
    41 Daughtry
    91 Fantasia
    97 Kris Allen

  • ladymadonna

    Kirsten you beat me to it. Just running over to post those. I love BB Year End Chart day. It’s like Christmas morning. Can’t wait to peruse the full slate of eleventy-million charts once BB.com’s servers recover from the onslaught of chart nerds this morning.

    Because we know the question will be asked, here are links to mj’s archives for Idols on the Year End and Decade charts in recent years:

    2007 Year End Charts

    2008 Year End Charts

    2009 Year End Charts

    ’00 End of Decade Charts

  • Kirsten

    Digital Songs:
    55 Adam Lambert “Whataya Want From Me”
    57 Kris Allen “Live Like We’re Dyin’”

    Hot Digital Song Artists (50)
    13 Glee
    33 Adam Lambert
    41 Carrie Underwood
    49 Kris Allen

  • Kirsten

    Kirsten you beat me to it. I love BB Year End Chart day. It’s like Christmas morning.

    I forgot we used to do a yearly chart. Maybe I should change the name for today? Or a separate post. I think I’ll keep compiling them here for a bit.

    There are a lot of lists, so if I miss your favourite, it’s not because I hate them. It is because I’m human. Any polite corrections welcome!

  • ladymadonna

    I forgot we used to do a yearly chart. Maybe I should change the name for today? Or a separate post. I think I’ll keep compiling them here for a bit.

    Yeah in past years I think we’ve usually had a running thread (usually started in Headlines) where they get posted as folks dig into the minutia of the charts. Then I think mj has done the heavy lifting of compiling a comprehensive Idol chart for the archives a week or so later. It takes so long to go through them all…

  • bridgette12

    The Idols are well represented and they should be proud of themselves. So a big congrats out to Carrie, Daughtry Adam, Fantasia, Kris and Kelly.

  • istersay

    Top Hip-Hop and RandB Songs
    #22
    BITTERSWEET
    Fantasia
    http://bit.ly/ik3u0l

    #30 Top Hip-Hop and RandB Albums
    BACK TO ME
    Fantasia
    http://bit.ly/elimyS

    #20 Hot RandB Hip-Hop Songs Artists
    Fantasia
    http://bit.ly/guMIUv

  • csprof

    Matt’s song with Jim Brickman finally cracked the Mediabase Top 20 today! They released a Christmas remix version of “Thank You” that is quickly rising on the charts. The song is up from #37 a week ago. I’m hoping it can hang in there at least until Sunday’s official chart.

  • larc

    Susan Boyle and Glee are Idols???

  • Kirsten

    Susan Boyle and Glee are Idols???

    I’m adding in the blog covered topics as well. Glee and the various Simon shows are covered here, so I’m including them.

  • lorismile

    Adam charted higher than I thought he would in some of the categories. :-)

  • certain1

    2010 Country Albums

    #35 My Best Days Danny Gokey

    2010 Country Album Artists

    #31 Danny Gokey

  • Eileen99

    Hee! So many charts! :)

    Lots of Idols showing up – congratulations to all! (and to the fans).
    Is Kris on the BB200 list? You’ve got him in comments but not up top. I hope it’s correct that he is.

    Thanks for the historical links, ladymadonna! (you should be here more often, btw)

  • Kirsten

    Lots of Idols showing up – congratulations to all! (and to the fans).
    Is Kris on the BB200 list? You’ve got him in comments but not up top. I hope it’s correct that he is.

    Cut and paste fail. Thanks for catching that.

  • Kirsten

    Okay, I’ve checked most of the obvious American charts and I need to take a break. I’ll update again tonight.

  • mmb

    I would be surprised if daughtry, Kris and Adam were not on the year end adult top 40 and ac charts. Anyone look at these yet?

  • Indigobunting

    Happy Danny made #31 on the top Country album artists chart! :) and top country albums.

    Idols are represented across most major genres.

  • Kirsten

    I would be surprised if daughtry, Kris and Adam were not on the year end adult top 40 and ac charts. Anyone look at these yet?

    The links are broken. There seems to be some sort of glitch where the same heading appears twice for a bunch of categories. When that happens, the link is wrong. We’ll have to wait for them to fix it.

  • cookbunny

    Oh darn…looks like there won’t be any Idols on DJ Earworm’s end-of-the-year mashup (each year he does a dance remix including parts of the Top 25 Pop Songs, according to Billboard).

    To hear what I’m talking about, here’s the one he did for 2009 (Kelly Clarkson was included in that one): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNzrwh2Z2hQ

  • swish5

    Missing Lee’s band with al of these radio / acoustic appearances

  • girlygirl

    Nice to see so many Idols representing! Congrats to all who have made these year-end charts.

    Have to say I’m surprised LLWD isn’t on the Christian chart — It was on the BB Christian charts for weeks and weeks and it was #1 on the digital Christian chart for a long time.

  • girlygirl

    SS has passed IIHY on the Hot AC chart. I have been wondering why IIHY hasn’t gone recurrent yet — anyone know the answer to this?
    (thanks in advance)

    29 26 LEE DEWYZE Sweet Serendipity 590 31 59 1.849
    26 28 ADAM LAMBERT If I Had You 581 654 -73 3.458

  • Q3

    girlygirl:
    12/09/2010 at 11:26 am

    SS has passed IIHY on the Hot AC chart. I have been wondering why IIHY hasn’t gone recurrent yet — anyone know the answer to this?
    (thanks in advance)

    29 26 LEE DEWYZE Sweet Serendipity 590 31 59 1.849
    26 28 ADAM LAMBERT If I Had You 581 654 -73 3.458

    It hasn’t hit 20 weeks yet — week 19 by my count — so one more week. It was slow to move from Pop to HAC — so it just seems like it has been on the HAC charts forever!

    ETA: Pulse Music has it at 17 weeks on the 11/28 chart — so same count that I have.

  • mmb

    A few more bb rolling in:

    Canada hot 100: wwfm#11; iihy#34
    hot 100 airplay: wwfm #46; #llwd # 54
    hot singles sales: wwfm #37
    bb200: fye#29

    There could be other idol songs in these categories but I got this from pulse and they didn’t post full charts up to 100 in many instances

  • certain1

    Top New Country Artists

    #8 DANNY GOKEY

  • Elliegrll

    SS has passed IIHY on the Hot AC chart. I have been wondering why IIHY hasn’t gone recurrent yet — anyone know the answer to this?
    (thanks in advance)

    According to Radio and Records, which Billboard uses, IIHY has only been in the top 40 for 18 weeks. I think it has to be 20 weeks old before it goes recurrent. http://cclamp.radioandrecords.com/rrwebsite20/Members/Charts.aspx?ChartId=10

  • Indigobunting

    Just learned that the Billboard runs November to November so really happy Danny made it to #31- he only has 7 months on there compared to some with 12 :)

  • girlygirl

    Q3 & Elliegrll

    Thanks! It really does seem like IIHY has been in the Hot AC Top 40 fot longer than that, though, doesn’t it? :)

  • TwigLA

    Very happy to see all the AI artists represented on so many of these Billboard lists. Congrats to them all.

    I’m a little surprised Kris isn’t a little higher on some of these charts (including the Christian chart for LLWD) but I won’t complain.

  • Q3

    girlygirl:
    12/09/2010 at 11:44 am

    Q3 & Elliegrll

    Thanks! It really does seem like IIHY has been in the Hot AC Top 40 fot longer than that, though, doesn’t it? :)

    That may be because it had a Pop impact date of 5/10/10, and really wasn’t present on HAC until it entered the Top 50 on 7/18/10 — and didn’t enter the HAC Top 40 until 8/8/10. SO it seems like forever ago.

    Also, the HAC adds for IIHY have been really spread out — just picked up autoadds in KALC-FM Denver on 11/22/10 and KMYI-FM San Diego on 12/6/10.

    ETA: Just as an FYI — and prob something most people here know but….

    The airplay charts are Mediabase. Usually, they are the same as Nielsen Broadcast Data Systems but not always. The radio panels are different for these two, and the recurrency rules are different for Billboard/R&R vs. Mediabase.

    Radio & Records was acquired in 2006 by Billboard’s parent VNU Media and is now merged into Billboard Information Group (BIG). Since the acquisition both Billboard and R&R use data from Nielsen Broadcast Data Systems. (Prior to the acquisition, R&R used Mediabase.) R&R is now just a brand name for BIG, publication of R&R ceased in 2009.

  • http://twitter.com/kenostroff negativo

    Latest Crystal numbers at Amazon:

    Amazon Bestsellers Rank: #72 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)
    * #18 in Music > Rock
    * #57 in Music > Pop

  • twinkle80

    yey, so happy for all these idols doing well on the year end charts, especially kris!!! :)

    29 26 LEE DEWYZE Sweet Serendipity 590 31 59 1.849

    thanks for posting this, girlygirl! so glad that SS is still going in the right direction. slow & steady, lee :)

  • Q3

    Not much Idol on iTunes — unless I missed something — but a lot of Glee!

    iTunes US….

    Albums:
    #1 Glee Christmas
    #4 Glee Vol 4
    #15 Adam Lambert “Acoustic Live!”
    #48 Susan Boyle “The Gift”
    #88 Jackie Evancho “Oh Holy Night”
    #187 Glee Vol 3
    #199 Glee Vol 1

    Songs:
    #53 Jason Aldean with Kelly Clarkson Don’t You Wanna Stay
    #175 Carrie Underwood “Mama’s Song”
    17 Glee tracks

    Pop Albums
    #1 Glee Vol 4
    #5 Adam Lambert “Acoustic Live!” (Peaked on 12/8/10)
    #32 #4 Glee Vol 3
    #34 Crystal Bowersox “Farmer’s Daughter” (headed up :) )
    #38 Lee DeWyze “Live it Up”
    #50 Glee “Journey to Regionals”
    #58 Now 36 (Adam and Daughtry have tracks on this album)
    #79 Glee “Power of Madonna”
    #128 Carrie Underwood “Some Hearts”
    #133 Adam Lambert FYE Deluxe
    #159 Adam Lambert FYE
    #178 Kelly Clarkson “Breakaway”

    Note: Other Glee albums are classified as Holiday or Soundtracks.

    iTunes Pop Songs: (Kelly is charting and Lee moved up today!)

    #67 Adam Lambert WWFM Acoustic Live!
    #94 Adam Lambert WWFM
    #162 Mad World Acoustic Live!
    #140 Lee DeWyze Sweet Serendipity (it has moved up today :) )
    #178 Kelly Clarkson “My Grown Up Christmas List”
    Plus 23 Glee tracks!!!!

    ETA: Corrected to add Jason and Kelly! Oops!

  • hoosiermama

    I just heard SS on my local unmonitored pop station, U93 for the first time this morning (it’s really more like a HAC station–loves the idols and no rap workday). It must be the Top 30 ranking! I’m sure they’ll spin the crap out of it now. Hope others will do the same. It sounded great!

    Yay for all the Idols on the year end charts!!!

  • tinawina

    The weekly Glee invasion has started anew. LOL

  • Elliegrll

    The airplay charts are Mediabase.

    Maybe you want to rephrase this, since we have a year end chart from Billboard that is posted on this page, which lists the top radio songs of the year, and since BB uses the airplay information that is collected by BDS, Radio and Records, or whatever you want to call them, in the formula that they use to come up with the Hot 100 rankings.

  • girlygirl

    iTunes Albums

    #229 Live It Up

    (my feed doesn’t display pre-orders, so no Crystal on here)

    iTunes songs

    #566 SS

  • Valentin432

    Songs:
    #175 Carrie Underwood
    17 Glee tracks

    #53 Don’t You Wanna Stay (Jason Aldean with Kelly Clarkson)

  • Q3

    Maybe you want to rephrase this, since we have a year end chart from Billboard that is posted on this page, which lists the top radio songs of the year, and since BB uses the airplay information that is collected by BDS, Radio and Records, or whatever you want to call them, in the formula that they use to come up with the Hot 100 rankings.

    I guess I missed the point of your post —

    R&R now uses BDS — and they never collected airplay data. Prior to 2006, they used Mediabase.

    Girlygirl was asking about the recurrency of IIHY and posted the current Mediabase airplay numbers not Hot 100 — it was quoted in your response that used R&R chart info.

    Elliegrll:
    12/09/2010 at 11:40 am

    SS has passed IIHY on the Hot AC chart. I have been wondering why IIHY hasn’t gone recurrent yet — anyone know the answer to this?
    (thanks in advance)

    According to Radio and Records, which Billboard uses, IIHY has only been in the top 40 for 18 weeks. I think it has to be 20 weeks old before it goes recurrent. http://cclamp.radioandrecords.com/rrwebsite20/Members/Charts.aspx?ChartId=10

    Billboard chart recurrency rules are not based on radio airplay — they are based on Billboard chart entry dates. (But recurrency would not apply to the yearend charts, just to the weekly charts.)

    Mediabase recurrency rules are based on radio airplay levels on the radio stations on each format’s panel.

    I thought that people might be confused about the two different sets of recurrency rules.

    As I understand it…..

    Billboard yearend charts have no recurrency rules.
    Billboard Hot 100 recurrent = in Hot 100 over twenty weeks and below #50. (IIHY fell below #50 on week 16.)
    Billboard recurrency rules are based on Billboard chart entry dates.
    Mediabase airplay recurrency rules are based on Mediabase airplay charts and not on R&R which uses the competing Broadcast Data Systems.

    If I am incorrect, please let me know. (It would not be the first time, or the worst crime.) :)

  • Q3

    Valentin432:
    12/09/2010 at 12:48 pm

    Songs:
    #175 Carrie Underwood
    17 Glee tracks

    #53 Don’t You Wanna Stay (Jason Aldean with Kelly Clarkson)

    I keep forgetting to look for that one!! (They should have put Kelly’s name first! Just to make it easy for me. Adding it now.)

  • CindyM

    Great deal on Crystal’s album from Amazon. On sale for $6.99 and it’s not the MP3 version, it’s the actual CD. Use MJ’s links :)

  • Q3

    CindyM:
    12/09/2010 at 1:22 pm

    Great deal on Crystal’s album from Amazon. On sale for $6.99 and it’s not the MP3 version, it’s the actual CD. Use MJ’s links :)

    WOW — that is a great deal!

    First the move Lee’s CD presale to $7.99. Then they move Cystal’s to $6.99. That reprices every presale order they have for “Farmer’s Daughter”.

    I know that they did not do this in the past 2 years. Has Amazon ever done this before on an Idol presale?

    They have discounted MP3 albums on Black Friday — for example, FYE MP3 was only $3.99 for 2 days but that was post release, and KATA MP3 was $5.00 last December for a couple of days.

    ETA: FD is up to #65 on Amazon — it was in the high 90′s yesterday. :)

  • Kirsten

    As I understand it…..

    Billboard yearend charts have no recurrency rules.
    Billboard Hot 100 recurrent = in Hot 100 over twenty weeks and below #50. (IIHY fell below #50 on week 16.)

    Are you sure? I always thought that the year-end charts get nailed by the recurrency rules because they are based on the charts.

    My understanding is that only the time you are on the respective chart counts. So, all the time you are in the BB200 counts towards the Year BB200. All the units you move when you are off do not count. So, you might get bumped down a few spots because you sold 10K when you were off the chart. I admit, though, that I don’t pay a lot of attention to the rules for the year end chart (just the dates when they start and end) and recurrency rules seem to be always changing. I just remember people talking about on Pulse a few years ago.

    Since there are Catalog End-of-Year charts, that’s a nod to the recurrency rules (albums no longer go recurrent, though).

    Anybody know for sure.

  • http://twitter.com/kenostroff negativo

    Crystal’s current Amazon rankings. She’s moving up steadily.

    Amazon Bestsellers Rank: #65 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

    * #16 in Music > Rock
    * #51 in Music > Pop

  • lorismile

    Then they move Cystal’s to $6.99. That reprices every presale order they have for “Farmer’s Daughter”.

    That’s cheap. I’m guessing they didn’t have a lot of preorders for it so they made the move ahead of release.

  • HotHotHot

    Best of 2010
    Top Billboard 200
    Year-End top-selling albums across all genres, ranked by sales data as compiled by Nielsen SoundScan.

    http://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200#/charts-year-end/the-billboard-200?year=2010&begin=1&order=position

    #12 PLAY ON Carrie Underwood
    #29 FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT Adam Lambert
    #59 LEAVE THIS TOWN Daughtry
    #115 KRIS ALLEN Kris Allen

  • sr4mjc

    Amazon is taking the money off every pre-order already placed in hopes the volume of new sales will make up for it? Jive still gets the same amount regardless of purchase price and Amazon takes the loss, is that correct? I don’t remember Idol pre-orders ever dropping this low, but if it works….

  • bridgette12

    HotHotHot:
    12/09/2010 at 3:29 pm
    Best of 2010
    Top Billboard 200
    Year-End top-selling albums across all genres, ranked by sales data as compiled by Nielsen SoundScan.

    http://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200#/charts-year-end/the-billboard-200?year=2010&begin=1&order=position

    #12 PLAY ON Carrie Underwood
    #29 FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT Adam Lambert
    #59 LEAVE THIS TOWN Daughtry

    I thought Daughtry would be higher than #59. That’s seems kind of low.

  • smeggingnuts

    Wow I thought Adam would be lower…lol

  • tinawina

    I thought Daughtry would be higher than #59. That’s seems kind of low.

    Billboard’s calendar year starts in November sometime, so a huge chunk of Daughtry’s sales are not counted.

  • progression

    Amazon is taking the money off every pre-order already placed in hopes the volume of new sales will make up for it?

    They do it as a loss leader, in hopes people will buy other music at full price and/or become regular amazon music customers. Trying to build market share.

  • Q3

    Are you sure? I always thought that the year-end charts get nailed by the recurrency rules because they are based on the charts.

    My understanding is that only the time you are on the respective chart counts. So, all the time you are in the BB200 counts towards the Year BB200. All the units you move when you are off do not count. So, you might get bumped down a few spots because you sold 10K when you were off the chart. I admit, though, that I don’t pay a lot of attention to the rules for the year end chart (just the dates when they start and end) and recurrency rules seem to be always changing. I just remember people talking about on Pulse a few years ago.

    Since there are Catalog End-of-Year charts, that’s a nod to the recurrency rules (albums no longer go recurrent, though).

    Yearend charts:

    Time period – First week of December through last week of November.

    This is a summary from Wiki that is as far as I can determine accurate and matches the info scattered all over Billboard, Soundscan and Nielsen sites.

    After Billboard began obtaining sales and airplay information from Nielsen SoundScan and Nielsen Broadcast Data Systems, the year-end charts are now calculated by a very straightforward cumulative total of yearlong sales (or sales and airplay) points. This gives a more accurate picture of any given year’s most popular titles, as an entry that hypothetically spent nine weeks at number one in March could possibly have earned fewer cumulative points than one spending six weeks at number three in January. Due to this methodology, albums at the peak of their popularity at the time of the November/December chart-year cutoff many times end up ranked lower than one would expect on a year-end tally, yet are ranked on the following year’s chart as well, as their cumulative points are split between the two chart years.

    Sometimes, the best selling album of the year of Billboard is different than best selling album of the year of Nielsen SoundScan, because Billboard calculates the year from December to November and Nielsen calculates the year from January to December.
    Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End

    Billboard started using Soundscan sales data in 1991.
    Billboard started using BDS for airplay data in 1992.

    The points based charts (like Hot 100) are recalculated usually annual cumulative data and the same formula as the week chart.

    Prior to this conversion 1991/1992, year-end charts were calculated based solely on the weekly charts.

    ETA: Wouldn’t it be nice if Billboard just posted the methodology and recurrancy rule where they were easy to find?

  • mmb

    More bb. Ac songs

    #5 already gone
    #10 lay
    #11 no surprise
    #13 llwd
    #14 wwfm
    #29 September

  • mmb

    Adult pop songs. Bb

    #5 lay
    #9 llwd
    #10 wwfm
    #12 sept
    #19 ag
    #40 aiew

  • Q3

    Adult pop songs. Bb

    #5 lay
    #9 llwd
    #10 wwfm
    #12 sept
    #19 ag
    #40 aiew

    That is a great run of songs for Idol!

  • carson

    Adult pop song artists:
    #2 Daughtry

    (link in Kirsten’s post only showed #1-10)

  • Q3

    One more….

    Japan Hot 100 (100)
    #34 Adam Lambert “For Your Entertainment”

  • luly

    Great to see the idols on the year-end chart :D.

    Lee got another add:
    WRMF-FM Pub 0 Hot AC West Palm 19/RMG Palm Beach Radio Broadcasting Inc 47 12/9/2010 11:07:00 AM

  • mmb

    Japan bb hot 100 ( year end)

    #34 FYE

    Canada albums

    #25 FYE

    Canada hot 100 artists

    # 9 Adam lambert

  • jewels

    Top Billboard 200
    #115 KRIS ALLEN Kris Allen

    Top Billboard 200 Artists: (100)
    97 Kris Allen

    Am I the only one seeing a mistake in these numbers? Newer artists tend to drop when bodies of work are figured into the equation, not rise substantially.

    Maybe somebody is trying to throw Kris under the bus again by under reporting album sales or maybe 19/Jive paid to get his name on the artist chart?

  • mmb

    ^^^ huh? I think the reason KATA is lower on the year end bb200 chart than Kris as bb 200 artist is because other artists have more than one album on the year end chart but they only get counted once in the artist chart

  • Indigobunting

    Are you sure? I always thought that the year-end charts get nailed by the recurrency rules because they are based on the charts.

    My understanding is that only the time you are on the respective chart counts. So, all the time you are in the BB200 counts towards the Year BB200. All the units you move when you are off do not count. So, you might get bumped down a few spots because you sold 10K when you were off the chart. I admit, though, that I don’t pay a lot of attention to the rules for the year end chart (just the dates when they start and end) and recurrency rules seem to be always changing. I just remember people talking about on Pulse a few years ago.

    Since there are Catalog End-of-Year charts, that’s a nod to the recurrency rules (albums no longer go recurrent, though).

    Anybody know for sure.

    If this is how the rule is, it seems like it favors artists who release at really slow sales time who can stay on the BB a little longer. That could explain why Jerrod Niemann who is in the 50′s for country album sales rank shows up as #200 on BB200 and Danny who is #35 doesn’t. Doesn’t quite seem fair, but that is numbers for you!

  • Masieta

    This is kind of like deciding how to wash striped towels – in the light or dark loads? I don’t know if this belongs in the numbers thread or headlines and have been going back and forth, but since numbers are involved, here goes. (Also, if this has already been posted and discussed, please just delete.)

    The Mediabase Year End Top 5 song picks for 2010 by various individuals working for labels, radio stations, or radio-related businesses are in. I didn’t look at the country list, just Hot AC and Top 40.

    For Hot AC out of 39 entities picking their top 5 songs, these are the idols and the number of times they are listed:
    Kris: LLWD – 3 times, AWM – 1 time
    Daughtry: LAY – 3 times
    Adam: WWFM – 2 times
    Carrie: UI – 1 time

    http://www.allaccess.com/hot-modern-ac/hot-picks/year-end

    For Top 40 out of 107 entities:
    Adam: WWFM – 2 times
    Kris: LLWD – 1 time
    Daughtry: Sept – 1 time

    It is what it is, and I’m glad to see these idols there, especially Kris and Adam because this is really their first year. However, I would have liked to have seen a little more love from the Top 40.

    http://www.allaccess.com/top40-mainstream/hot-picks/year-end

  • Kirsten

    ^^^ huh? I think the reason KATA is lower on the year end bb200 chart than Kris as bb 200 artist is because other artists have more than one album on the year end chart but they only get counted once in the artist chart

    That’s exactly the reason. If people are suspicious, they need only look at the two charts themselves.

  • Q3

    jewels:
    12/09/2010 at 5:19 pm

    Top Billboard 200
    #115 KRIS ALLEN Kris Allen

    Top Billboard 200 Artists: (100)
    97 Kris Allen

    Am I the only one seeing a mistake in these numbers? Newer artists tend to drop when bodies of work are figured into the equation, not rise substantially.

    Maybe somebody is trying to throw Kris under the bus again by under reporting album sales or maybe 19/Jive paid to get his name on the artist chart?

    The charts are different. Some artists, like The Beatles, didn’t have any albums on the Top 114 (above Kris) but are on the Billboard 200 Artist list (Beatles are #36). Other artists have more than one album that outsold KATA — here are some…

    Justin Bieber 2
    Taylor Swift 3
    Zac Brown Band 2
    Lady Gaga 2
    Susan Boyle 2
    Michael Jackson 2
    Eminem 2
    Trey Songz 2

    And some top selling albums, are multi-artist — outsold KATA but not on Artist list:

    Twilight Soundtrack 2
    Glee 4
    Now 32, 33, 34, 35
    Wow

    So that is the difference for Kris.

    It affected Adam in the opposite way…and Carrie ended up #12 on both charts.

    Top Billboard 200
    12 Carrie Underwood “Play On”
    29 Adam Lambert “For Your Entertainment”

    Top Billboard 200 Artists:
    12 Carrie Underwood
    31 Adam Lambert

  • jewels

    ^^^ huh? I think the reason KATA is lower on the year end bb200 chart than Kris as bb 200 artist is because other artists have more than one album on the year end chart but they only get counted once in the artist chart

    Yes, you are totally right. I was looking at artists at the wrong end of the chart. Thank you Q3 for breaking it down, but I got it from mmb’s comment anyway.

    That’s exactly the reason. If people are suspicious, they need only look at the two charts themselves.

    I wasn’t really suspicious, although I did reallythink it was a mistake. I was just playing the ‘lets jump to silly conclusions’ game. I believe you have partaken yourself once or twice?

  • Q3

    I wasn’t really suspicious, although I did reallythink it was a mistake. I was just playing the ‘lets jump to silly conclusions’ game. I believe you have partaken yourself once or twice?

    It does look backwards at first. There are so many BB charts that it is hard to keep them all straight. I am not sure I really know the difference between Adult Pop and Adult Contemporary anymore. And some of the charts are really regional — we do not have Tropical genre stations in the mid-south. And Regional Mexican is all over the US, and plays a wide range of Latin music.

    And they added a new chart, the Social 50 — which is actually the Next Big Sound chart.

    Interesting info from Next Big Sound — they aggregate social media info (friends, followers, subscribers) on artists…here are their total fans numbers:

    Kelly Clarkson 7,273,633
    Carrie Underwood 5,652,503
    Daughtry 3,447,759
    Adam Lambert 2,557,498
    David Archuleta 2,249,796
    Kris Allen 988,246
    David Cook 854,603
    Crystal Bowersox 197,105
    Lee Dewyze 142,613

    New fans added 11/8/10-12/8/10

    Crystal Bowersox 3,253
    Lee Dewyze 11,663

    Link: http://www.nextbigsound.com

  • koshka

    Q3 – in a previous life I did internet marketing… Next Big Sound stats make me salivate. ;)

  • HotHotHot

    Adam Lambert
    Acoustic Live
    US iTunes

    #5 Pop
    #16 Music

    It’s staying up there pretty well!

  • http://MJO judes

    Great to see so many idols doing well especially Kris & Adam seeing its their first year !!

  • Kirsten

    I wasn’t really suspicious, although I did reallythink it was a mistake. I was just playing the ‘lets jump to silly conclusions’ game. I believe you have partaken yourself once or twice?

    Ah. Sorry sometimes it is difficult to tell tone in a post. Now I understand.

  • jpfan

    Top 25 Tours (Courtesy of Billboard Boxscores)

    1. BON JOVI

    Total Gross: $146,507,388 Number of Shows: 69
    Total Attendance: 1,591,154 Number of Sell-Outs: 69

    2. U2
    Total Gross: $131,502,369 Number of Shows: 22
    Total Attendance: 1,312,784 Number of Sell-Outs: 22

    3. AC/DC
    Total Gross: $122,633,027 Number of Shows: 28
    Total Attendance: 1,155,998 Number of Sell-Outs: 19

    4. LADY GAGA
    Total Gross: $116,227,987 Number of Shows: 122
    Total Attendance: 1,362,993 Number of Sell-Outs: 101

    5. BLACK EYED PEAS
    Total Gross: $81,579,114 Number of Shows: 82
    Total Attendance: 1,263,625 Number of Sell-Outs: 82

    6. JAMES TAYLOR AND CAROL KING
    7. EAGLES
    8. METALLICA
    9. DAVE MATTHEWS BAND
    10. PAUL McCARTNEY
    11. MICHAEL BUBLE
    12. TRANS-SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA
    13. TIM McGRAW
    14. TOM PETTY & THE HEARTBREAKERS
    15. TAYLOR SWIFT
    16. ANDRÉ RIEU
    17. BRAD PAISLEY
    18. GEORGE STRAIT & REBA McENTIRE
    19. JUSTIN BIEBER
    20. NICKELBACK
    21. PHISH
    22. MILEY CYRUS
    23. RASCAL FLATTS
    24. CARRIE UNDERWOOD
    Total Gross: $29,743,522 Number of Shows: 81
    Total Attendance: 608,319 Number of Sell-Outs: 39
    25. TIËSTO

  • http://emuisemo.com eilonwy

    Q3:

    Interesting info from Next Big Sound — they aggregate social media info (friends, followers, subscribers) on artists…here are their total fans numbers

    Color me delighted (pale green with yellow spots) to see real data from NBS’s strange and marvelous algorithm.

    I was so delighted that I couldn’t resist running a basic correlation test on the seven Idols who are reasonably “through” their album cycles (I included Archuleta because TOSOD looks to be out of steam). The correlation of 0.40 tends to bear out my belief that fan counts aren’t terribly predictive of sales. (Yeah, I know — ridiculously small sample size, but still…)

    What’s interesting is that if one divides sales of the most recent album by NBS “fans”, four Idols have sales/fan ratios of ~0.33 (CU, Daughtry, AL, KA), but the outliers are really outliers (Clarkson = 0.12, DA = 0.02, DC = 2.57). If one multiplies DeWyze’s fans by 0.33, one gets sales of 47,062, which he’s already surpassed by 34%. When the rule-of-thumb fails badly on half of the sample, it’s not a good predictor. So I’m not impressed with NBS’s super-sekrit algorithm yet.

    That was immensely fun, though, and I thank you!
    [edited because I had my own ratio backwards -- oops!]

  • HR

    “Pop Catalog Albums (50)#17 Daughtry “Daughtry”
    #27 Carrie Underwood “Some Hearts””

    This goes back to what was being discussed last night. After an album reaches a certain popularty and has a strong recurrency rate for its singles it will continue to sale moderately even years later as retailers keep a few copies in stock at all times. These albums selling better then some new releases from several Idols doesn’t necessarily reflect badly on those releases, it mainly reflects just how popular these albums were.

  • Esqt

    (more on Billboard 2010…)

    Canadian Hot 100 (100) #1 Katy Perry feat Snoop Dogg – California Gurls
    #11 – Adam Lambert “Whataya Want From Me”
    #34 – Adam Lambert “If I Had You”
    #88 – Kelly Clarkson “Already Gone”
    #98 – Adam Lambert “For Your Entertainment”
    #99 – Daughtry “Life After You”

  • loveroftalent

    Adam did amazing in Canada. I’m so happy that the radio loves him here.

  • Eileen99

    Thanks for bringing over the tour numbers, jpfan. Lots of old-timers on that list, aren’t there? I had no idea Bieber’s tour was so successful, basically working off just one album’s worth of material released 12 months ago.

  • Trina

    Those tour numbers..wow. I had no idea Bon Jovi still had that kind of drawing power. That’s true longevity.

  • Q3

    eilonwy: I’ve been looking at the NBS numbers a bit — and it confirms one thing –

    Archie has a sizable. engaged and connected fanbase. The album must have missed the mark on what fans wanted but the activity level remains high. So he fans have not vanished — just chose not to buy OSOD.

    Pull Archie out of the numbers and the correlation between Idols and Sales is much higher.

    Also, there is a clear difference between genres — Country fans are far less likely to be online than pop fans.

    In any case, interesting that BBoard added this chart — my bet is that 2011 will see a BBoard composite chart to match Big Champagne’s Ultimate Chart — a chart that move the internet up in importance beyond the minor component of streaming media in Hot 100.

  • http://emuisemo.com eilonwy

    Q3:

    Pull Archie out of the numbers and the correlation between Idols and Sales is much higher.

    Actually, I tried this, and the correlation barely budged. I wonder if we’re using the same formula.

    Proportionately fewer country fans being online also wouldn’t explain why Carrie Underwood has the same sales/fan ratio as Daughtry, Lambert, and KA; but all four are distinctly different from Kelly Clarkson (“fans” in much larger numbers than album sales) and David Cook (“fans” in much smaller numbers than album sales).

    I agree, though, that it’s interesting that BB feels it has to compete with Big Champagne’s Ultimate Chart. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out longer-term.

  • steph6449

    Congratulations to all of S8′s top 3 for making the BBD end of year charts :)

    I’d been thinking Danny should make the overall country top 50. With so many great country artists having albums out, nice to see that he checked in at #31 (artist) and #35 (album) based on the partial year of reporting from his album release date in March.

  • HR

    JMO, but pop fans seem most active on the internet. Kelly is maybe the purest pop artist Idol has had and she attained the greatest success when you factor in the worldwide popularity of Breakaway. She may retain a number of fans or at least interest because of that period even if they aren’t as fond of her current sound.

    Carrie isn’t a typical country artist. She was on the #1 mainstream pop culture show in the country and has had some crossover success so while her country representation may be lower online her pop fanbase still exists. You can see the correlation in how her singles perform on Itunes. Her more “poppish” singles do far better in sales then singles like Temporary Home or Mama’s Song.

    I would hazard a guess Adult contemporary audiences are similiar to country audiences and less active online. David Cook’s success came mainly in that field. Daughtry while popular in that same genre has had some success in pop so his numbers are higher. Archleta experienced success with the pop crowd when he released “Crush” and ventured onto popular teen related shows.

    Then always time and events change. Just because a person follows someone doesn’t mean they’ll go back and unfollow them if they lose interest. I’ve had several online accounts over the years. I never discontinued them, I just abandoned them.

  • koshka

    When the rule-of-thumb fails badly on half of the sample, it’s not a good predictor. So I’m not impressed with NBS’s super-sekrit algorithm yet.

    The info is still good stuff. Not everything is about album sales. Maybe its how I read it, but I don’t think Q3 was recommending it as a predictor of sales. This info is cool from music and non-music a marketing perspective. It doesn’t necessarily indicate buyers, but potential buyers and a way to profile and access them. It would give you a good indicator of how many people you can contact.

  • kmd

    I think that new chart from the next big sound was very interesting. It makes some sense to me to use it as an indicator of potential buyers.

  • tinawina

    Link: http://www.nextbigsound.com

    AWESOME LINK!! **bookmarks**

    Thanks Q3! :-)

    eliwinoy: I think if you are going to test its corrolation with sales you have to test within genres. Also, these numbers seem to be worldwide, so maybe test worldwide sales?

    Anyway.. still awesome!!!

  • mmb

    Bb top new artists.
    # 7 Adam lambert

  • loveroftalent

    Bb top new artists.
    # 7 Adam lambert

    Where did you find this list. This is great.