Idols In Concert – Stats – 03/22/12

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Tour results from American Idol, Canadian Idol, America’s Got Talent and The Voice. This is the daily numbers thread. Please post numbers when you find them. Thanks!

16 Hedley, Classified, Anjulie, My Name is Kay
Montreal, Quebec; Bell Centre
March 12, 2012
$427,706; 8,565 of 9,732 (88%); Ticket Prices: $49.94

31 Jackie Evancho, Josh Page
Indio, Calif.; Fantasy Springs Casino
Jan. 28, 2012
$222,929; 2,996 of 3,449 (87%); Ticket Prices: $89, $49

40 Kelly Clarkson, Matt Nathanson
Johnstown, Pa.; Cambria County War Memorial Arena
Jan. 28, 2012
$148,576; 3,299 of 4,243 (78%); Ticket Prices: $75, $49, $39

124 Xenia, Jamie Bendell, Rory Sullivan and the Second Season
Brooklyn, N.Y.; Knitting Factory
Nov. 9, 2011
$750; 75 of 300 (25%); Ticket Prices: $10

 
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  • Indigobunting

    I agree I am disappointed with that prediction- I had been hoping for 30k for Casey J if he didn’t get an Idol performance, based on his radio AI (anything over 10k sells albums doesn’t it?), his active fan base (much as I dislike the video, I’m sure I’m not the only one voting for it since his Idol base has kept him near the top 10 at GAC most of the time (of course no where near Scotty and Lauren, but still) who realistically- it has only been one more year after country Idols put out their CDS-and there is a lot of country interest after last year; I think that will help CJ.

    But I think there is no way he will only sell 12-15k! I’m sure he will do better than other newbies with his Idol base, the album is cheap ($7.99), they are giving away his single on the front page of iTunes (I think HDD must be under-predicting the sales for that-it must be helping album sales), he has Today show and Ellen this week, as well as his hometown party, where he should sell another 1k easy.

    12-15k must be from Brick and mortar stores; I think they will under-predict. I hope so for CJ, and also I will owe some margaritas on bets ;)

  • Anonymous

    I just bought my first country album.  Thanks Casey for expanding my musical taste with this great album.

  • steph6449

    I don’t think they were expecting crazy high sales numbers, but still 12-15k seems disappointing for CJ given typical results for either an AI alum or a reasonably well-promoted country newbie (of which CJ qualifies IMO as both).

    My predictions haven’t been doing too well for S9 (I way underestimated Crystal, for one). But I was thinking maybe his album would debut somewhere in the 15-25k range. Maybe it will still come in a little higher than they are showing.

    It will be interesting how things unfold if that’s the result and then presumably his follow-on sales will continue to be modest unless he throws out a huge breakout hit this next time up a la the Easton Corbin or Jerrod Niemann examples. I haven’t heard any of CJ’s songs that strike me as having the type of potential of Easton’s A Little More Country Than That (the success of which I 1000% understood), or Jerrod’s Lover Lover (the success of which I was totally baffled by, lol).

    If CJ’s second song doesn’t break out more dramatically than his first, it will be interesting how much promotion he will get. The track record doesn’t seem to be very good with the newcomer AI grads in that regard if they don’t put themselves somewhat quickly on a path to reach an appealing financial picture with their record contracts. I know the conventional wisdom of some CJ followers is that his record deal is special and allows him some specially elongated time to develop. But even for just a plain country newbie they don’t always get all the time in the world before enough revenue-friendly results come through for the label to justify continued singles and follow-on albums.

    ETA: just in context, on the Easton and Jerrod cases, while their overall album sales did climb over time a lot higher than their debut week, they both debuted considerably higher than typical newbies that year. Danny was an anomaly coming off AI, but a lot of the newbies were debuting with 15-20k first week sales. Easton had 45k his first week, and pretty sure Jerrod was +/- 30k his first week out so triple / double the norm if you want to look at it that way. CJ currently seems to be slightly below the norm for a new country act that has some name recognition and promotion backing them up. To propel their sales (and probably in part due to their sales/radio results), Easton and Jerrod both also had award nominations, and Easton performed on the ACAs that year if I’m recalling accurately. It will be a tough road for CJ to follow that path.

  • LVD

    I don’t think they were expecting crazy high sales numbers, but still 12-15k seems disappointing for CJ given typical results for either an AI alum or a reasonably well-promoted country newbie (of which CJ qualifies IMO as both). 

    No we were not expecting crazy first week sales, I ve been saying for a while now I expect 10k – 20k. You just had to look at Casey’s first week sales for LDCIAN to realize that he doesn’t have a big idol fanbase. You are not suddenly going to jump from 5k to 25k – 30k after even more time, without a no. 1 hit or something. 
    But this isn’t out of the norm, I read Craig Morgan sold 12k last week (which was his first week sales), and he is very well known in country and his single is in the top 20.  

    No one said Casey is special he is just taking the same route as normal new artists would. Like other new artists his album sales will depend on his singles and the radio play he gets. This isn’t something that can be determined in a week it is a long process. 
    BNA obviously didn’t expect big numbers, as they shipped a low amount of copies, his album is already sold out in a lot of places. 

  • LVD

      My main concern with CaseyJ’s singles is wanting BNA go a little edgy with the next single and not get too caught up with the idea of following a romantic/sexy single with another romantic single. 

    Yes, this is my main concern right now.And speaking of which I am surprised Love the way you miss me is the best selling song on the album so far, and So Sweet are also starting to appear, people are buying all of the ballads. But then again perhaps even more surprising is the fact LDCIAN is selling when can get it for free. lol 

  • Anonymous

    And speaking of which I am surprised Love the way you miss me is the best selling song on the album so far, and So Sweet are also starting to appear, people are buying all of the ballads. But then again perhaps even more surprising is the fact LDCIAN is selling when can get it for free. lol  

    It’s not too surprising, since the people who are buying the singles are more than likely Casey’s AI fans, who would demographically speaking more than likely be more interested in the ballads.  We’ve seen the same thing with Lauren, and people buying Dirt Road Prayer, when her album was released,  The Truth from Kris Allen, and Scars from Allison’s.  

  • Indigobunting

    I’m not surprised by that…the album isn’t really what I expected from him- it is more ‘countrified’ easy listening  than I thought it would be.  And the best song by far in that vein is Love The Way You Miss Me. A couple people pointed to the album didn’t buy it, but did like that song.  But it shouldn’t be the next single, IMO-too much like LDCIAN in tone.

  • Anonymous

    Casey James is looking at 12-15k in first-week sales for his self-titled debut.  Maybe he should not have waited this long, although his singles sales aren’t bad.  

    We always pay attention to the first week numbers, but the album isn’t out for just one week.  What’s the point of capitalizing off of big first week numbers by selling the album to AI fans, if Casey doesn’t do anything to establish himself in his genre, so that he can sell music beyond just one album?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYFK77IYLRQIVATQ2MJKSW2J7Y Pam

    From HDD:

    Universal Republic’s The Hunger Games soundtrack will be the first non-Columbia title in 12 weeks to top the chart as the album appears on track for an opening just shy of 200k. With the film opening tomorrow, a strong weekend box office could potentially help drive sales even higher. UMG will also score the #1 album in the following two weeks as Madonna and Nicki Minaj will both debut on top. Columbia will have five of the Top Six albums next week and although Adele’s 21 is no longer #1, it has sold a whopping 2.4 million albums this year alone and will repeat as 2012′s best selling album. Here’s how it looks headed into the weekend:

    *The Hunger Games (Universal Republic) 180-200k
    Adele 21 (XL/Columbia) 125-135k
    *The Shins (Columbia) 70-75k
    One Direction (Columbia) 55-60k
    *Odd Future (Columbia/RED) 40-45k
    Bruce Springsteen (Columbia) 35-40k
    Whitney Houston (RCA) 28-32k
    *Melanie Fiona (SRC/Universal Republic) 27-30k
    Now 41 (Capitol/EMI) 24-27k
    fun. (Fueled by Ramen/Atlantic) 21-24k
    Gotye (Fairfax/Universal Republic) 20-23k
    *Diggy (Atlantic) 20-23k
    *Esperanza Spaulding (Concord) 20-23k
    Adele 19 (XL/Columbia) 18-21k
    Luke Bryan (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 17-20k
    Rihanna (Def Jam/IDJ) 17-20k
    Kelly Clarkson (19/RCA) 17-20k

    *Debuts (3/22p)

  • Anonymous

    Even if one was not expecting crazy sales it is disingenuousto say that first week sales do not matter. This is not a Disney movie were the meme “its not  where you start, but where you finish”. Week after week we discuss, despair and bemoan how bad someones first week sales are or were.  Less than 20k is not good when you consider the name recognition (there is an ad on the American Idol.com, so he is not forgotten),  national TV,  print adds, blog coverage …

    I have seen  lots of posts everywhere that state that the next single will help sell the song, maybe but it will be 20 weeks before another song makes any kind of impression and by then this album have to find a long road back.

    If I do the math correctly the typical second week drop is 50-70 percent which takes us to 7-10k, a 25 % drop the next week 5-7k and so on. This is the reality  and since many like to use Hunter as an example of low first week sales , we can see that with a total of 92,000 sold in 7 months even increased airplay cant overcome low initial interest.

  • aidancash1

    David nail sold 12000 copies his first week. Just last week craig morgan sold 12000 and he is a established star with hits. One single and first week sales dont make or break an artist. A great second single will be very important. More then ldcian was. This was just a song to get out there so casey could get his music out. Even Casey said he has better material on his album. Casey isnt on the idol scedule any more. He is a new artist. Come back in two years and we will see where he is at not after one week. I do think those numbers are a little unde estimated

  • Anonymous

    Casey James is looking at 12-15k in first-week sales for his self-titled debut. Maybe he should not have waited this long, although his singles sales aren’t bad.

    Hey, he has a shot of being the top selling alumni from that season.

  • http://twitter.com/capsuleneo Neo

    Do you know Casey’s single sales figures?

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