Idols In Concert – Stats – 02/21/13

Season 11 American Idol winner, Phillip Phillips, is opening with Matchbox 20 to sold out crowds in states that start with the letter “I”. On the other side of the planet, X-Factor Live (I’m guessing the Australian franchise) held a concert in Sydney.

Meanwhile, Billboard has decided to reformulate the Hot 100 (and related charts like Hot Country songs) to include youtube views within the United States. On the one hand, I think it is about time. If you are going to include relatively rarer streaming, you should include youtube views since that is the way many people chose to listen to music these days (and one of the few ways you get to watch videos). As an added bonus, the artists actually get some money from youtube. On the other hand, it will lead to viral videos and the songs they sometimes randomly feature to dominate the charts. Case in point, “Harlem Shakes” tops the Hot 100 this week. To paraphrase Monica from Friends, that’s not even a SONG. Urgh!

Matchbox Twenty, Phillip Phillips
Feb. 6, 2013: Normal, Ill.; Braden Auditorium; 3,358 of 3,358 (SOLD-OUT): $206,959
Feb. 10, 2013: Des Moines, Iowa; Civic Center of Greater Des Moines; 2,544 of 2,544 (SOLD-OUT): $189,279
Feb. 12, 2013: Fort Wayne, Ind.; Embassy Theatre; 2,339 of 2,339 (SOLD-OUT): $159,915

The X Factor Live
Jan. 18, 2013: Sydney, Australia; Hordern Pavilion; 2,510 of 4,561 (55%): $172,992


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  • Kirsten

    Here is a tweet from Billboard’s Bill Werde clarifying the targeted mix for the Hot 100 formula:

    Bill Werde ?@bwerde
    The new #Hot100 has a target chart
    ratio of sales (35-45%), airplay (30-40%) and streaming (20-30%). These
    change based on platform volume.

  • Jason Scott

    I hate Billboard even more. I get that YouTube should count, but the fact that Harlem Shakes is now #1 proves there are still major flaws in the system. Ugh.

  • Hazehel

    I think it is right that they should make the changes, but they probably need to tweak it a little. I’m not really sure how Harlem Shake gets to #1 when there is barely any radioplay, and it isn’t the #1 in sales, so something is wrong there somewhere.

    It seems they changed it because it looked wrong that Gangnam Style never reached #1, but it is selling more than the one that kept it from #1 for 7 weeks, Maroon 5’s “One More Night” which sold 3,749,000 the week Gangnam Style went 4 million. However Harlem Shake also wasn’t the most popular song last week, so it is wrong for it to be #1.  They should probably adjust it so that sales is given a greater share in the formula.

    “Home” never reached Top 5 in Hot 100 but it also sold more than a few songs that reached #1 the last 6 months.

  • maymay

    The change hurt Home. Although GGG maybe sells well in the future , it could not easily enter in the top 10 on the hot 100 chart. That means the alternative songs won`t do well on this kind of chart anymore. Maybe say goodbye to Fun or whatever.

    But I think the radio chart is the most important because that impacts the single and album sales. So as long as the radio continues to play PP`s song, that is enough.

  • Lexie O’Neill

    Is this the first time we’ve seen P2 and Matchbox 20 numbers (or did I miss them, sorry if so)?  The venues strike me as small compared to other big name artists (or is Matchbox 20 not that big)?  Just curious…

  • Tommyo2000

    Would love to see the stats from jessica’s Manila concert …

  • Eilonwy

    Is this the first time we’ve seen P2 and Matchbox 20 numbers (or did I miss them, sorry if so)?  The venues strike me as small compared to other big name artists (or is Matchbox 20 not that big)?  Just curious…

    Matchbox Twenty was ginormous in the late 1990s (debut album is diamond-certified), which means its nostalgia audience is not so much the affluent Baby Boomers who support arena tours for Madonna and Bon Jovi and much more the financially pounded Gen Xers.

    The band then declined rapidly in popularity — third album More Than You Think You Are sold “only” 1.4 million in 2002, when total album sales were about double what they are today, so while that was good, it wasn’t blockbusting in the context of its time. Then there was the 10-year hiatus between MTYTYA and North, while Rob Thomas did solo projects. I think the result is that M20 is familiar without being huge any more.

  • jpfan2

    HAC39 28 PHILLIP PHILLIPS Gone, Gone, Gone 524 319 205 2.81+20 Spins-12 Bullet+0.048 AI

    #144 on iTunes (slowly moving up to the top 100 songs)

  • ali_359921

     It was close to a sold-out concert … On twitter, They say it was between 10000 to 13000 … The tickets were really expensive otherwise it would be a sold-out .. Also, Jessica has another Concert in the US, Reno (March 30) .I’m not sure if the tickets are open 4 sale .

  • Lexie O’Neill

    Thanks.  As you all probably know, I’m a country fan so don’t know about more pop acts…so, interesting…

  • girlygirltoo

    Matchbox Twenty had not released an album since 2007 before their current album came out late last year. They actually broke up (or took a hiatus) from 2007-2010, during which time Rob Thomas pursued his solo career.

    They are not nearly as popular as they were back in their heyday (late 1990’s-early 2000’s), although as the box score reports show, they still have a very loyal core audience. 

  • girlygirltoo

    I understand BB wants to keep up with the times by adding streaming/You Tube counts, but I think 20-30% is too high a percentage for charting purposes. I would go with something along the lines of 45% sales, 45% radio play and 10% streaming.

  • jpfan2

     38 27 PHILLIP PHILLIPS Gone, Gone, Gone 559 347 212 2.929
    +35 Spins
    + 7 Bullet
    +0.119 AI

    27 20  Gone,Gone, Gone 215 157 58 .656

    #140 iTunes

  • Anny_nanny

    I like these guys. The next step should be a record of illegal downloads in the Internet and this system will reach the peak of idiocy.I’m sorry, but it looks that way.