Idol Related Sales Numbers after the jump (Billboard issue date 11/15/08)

Digital Download Numbers
15 David Archuleta “Crush” 56,065 (1%; lw 55,314) Total: 861,391 (15)
43 Jordin Sparks “One Step at a Time” 26,966 (-18%; lw 32,833) Total: 930,907 (38)
53 David Archuleta “Angels” 23,619 (NEW) Total: 23619 (NEW)
60 Jennifer Hudson “Spotlight” 20,350 (11%; lw 18,369) Total: 260,280 (67)
66 David Cook “Light On” 19,469 (-42%; lw 33,598) Total: 208,151 (35)
68 Carrie Underwood “Just a Dream” 18K (-5%) Tota: 328K (65)
108 Jordin Sparks “No Air” 11K (0%) Total: 2.55M (108)
112 David Cook “Time of My Life” 10K (-24%) Total: 980k
113 Daughtry “What About Now” 10K (-32%) Total: 451K (79)

Album Numbers
14 Jennifer Hudson “Jennifer Hudson” 32K (10%) Total: 387K (9)
49 Carrie Underwod “Carnival Ride” 11K (-11%) Total: 2.40M (37)
78 Kellie Pickler “Kellie Pickler” 7K (-17%) Total: 86K (59)
102 Daughtry “Daughtry” 5k (-16%) Total: 4.27M (81)*
146 Jordin Sparks “Jordin Sparks” 4K (-11%) Total: 945K (127)

*Daughtry may go to the catalogue chart. As I understand it, if you have been out for more than 18 months and slip below 100, you go to catalogue. That’s what happened to Nickelback a few weeks ago when they slipped down to 101. Jordin has been out less than 12 months, so her album should stick around. They keep changing the rules, though.

Off Chart Albums:
Carrie Underwood “Some Hearts” 4K (lw 3.9K) Total: 6.57M
Bucky Covington “Bucky Covington” 2K (lw 1.8K) Total: 378K
Kelly Clarkson “Breakaway” 1K (lw 1K) Total: 6.02M
Kristy Lee Cook “Why Wait” 800 (lw 1K) Total: 21K
Kellie Pickler “Small Town Girl” 700 (lw 700) Total: 793K
Josh Gracin 500 (lw 400) Total: 68K
Elliott Yamin “My Kind of Holiday” 500 (lw 500) Total: 1.9K
Kelly Clarkson “Thankful” 300 (lw 300) Total: 2.71M
Kelly Clarkson “My December” 300 (lw 300) Total: 777K
Elliott Yamin “Elliott Yamin” 200 (lw 100) Total: 517K
Clay Aiken “On My Way Here” 200 (lw 200) Total: 154K
Mandisa 200 (lw 200) Total: 98K
Fantasia “Fantasia” 100 (lw 200) Total: 518K
Katharine McPhee “Katharine McPhee” 100 (lw 100) Total: 373K
Blake Lewis “Audio Day Dream” 100 (lw 100) Total: 303K
Bo Bice 100 (lw 100) Total: 61K
Brooke 100 (lw 100) Total: 10K
Ace Young 100 (lw 100) Total: 9K
Paris Bennet “A Royal Christmas” Total: 100

Rounded numbers from Ken Barnes over at Idol Chatter

Please post numbers as you find them. Thanks.

 
  • Kirsten

    Please note that the above numbers are the Top 50 song from the download charts plus a few extra songs that have made à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“interestingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  gains in the top 200. Later today, Ken Barnes at Idol Chatter (USA Today) will come out with the full list of Idols in the top 200. We get data as it dribbles out.

    Here is some of the airplay chart (this is a differential from last week so the numbers in brackets are gains or losses in millions of audience impressions since last week). Before recurrents are removed:

    No. 12 – Jennifer Hudson (-2.4 million) lw 11
    No. 42 – David Archuleta ( 0.3 million) lw 41
    No. 241 – David Cook ( 1.6 million) lw 330

    Jennifer is number 2 on the R&B airplay chart.

  • ptslittlecomment

    Looks like DC took a hit. Very sorry to see that. The guy is so talented. I hope the video and album help get the word out about him. Maybe they will follow Archie’s marketers’ example and release another single soon.

  • MJack

    I see platinium coming, way to go Crush. :)

  • Kirsten

    Maybe they will follow Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s marketersà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ example and release another single soon.

    Well, I’m not sure that’s Archie’s marketer’s example. It seems to be the way of the new albums these days. Taylor Swift is releasing a new single every week leading up to her album release (same day as Archie) and they keep doing well (she’s number 1 on i-Tunes already with her release yesterday and she was number 1 for most of last week with her song released last Tuesday). FOB, Nickelback, TI, etc are doing the same sort of thing.

    I don’t know. LO just doesn’t seem to have legs. They can bump it up with banner ads, but it keeps falling back down again. It’s not setting the airwaves on fire. His SNL bump was miniscule compared to other unknown songs like Adele’s. It’s a hard song to sing and it will be rough on his voice to sing it live several times a day during promo period.

    Normally, I would say, give it a chance. It is still early. It might still find its footing, but the album promo period is coming up and it’s a great chance to try to release a new single that doesn’t require quite so much work. It seems from the comments from the previews that there are a lot of songs on the album that people like more than LO. Well, this is what his marketing team gets paid to think about, so we shall see. If they switched singles, I wouldn’t criticize them.

  • ggdoorsfan

    WOW…. Crush , once again, is impressive in its staying power and consistently strong sales. Angels didn’t do too shabby either…. When does the sales week run? Sun-Thur, Sat-Wed? lol…. I ask because I thought the SNL appearance would have increased downloads of LO…. or would sales from that appearance be reported in next week’s numbers?

    Proud of all the Idols who are representing on the charts – most especially David A… PLATINUM is right round the bend!

  • poporange

    I think David Cook is very photogenic and good looking the problem with “Lights ON” for me at least it is just ok he could do better. That is only one song and it is early.
    I can see in the future David A capture the tween audiance plus possible singing a more mature cd to capture the older ones.

    I know off subject but I liked Joshias songs and hope Ai will quit being jerks and let him release them….

  • Kirsten

    When does the sales week run? Sun-Thur, Sat-Wed? lolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. I ask because I thought the SNL appearance would have increased downloads of LOà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. or would sales from that appearance be reported in next weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s numbers?

    The sales week runs from Monday morning to Sunday night. So, the SNL appearance only had one day to move units for that week (though, the bounce can linger into the next week). It did see a bounce for a while (I don’t recall where it was, but it went up the 40s after SNL). Adele went to number 1 on iTunes the next day (and saw a 217% increase over the previous week seemingly based on that 1 day’s worth of sales). Coldplay didn’t see as much of a bounce, but it is an older song (and they didn’t apparently do that good a job). So, if you consider LO a well known song, it got a very good bounce. If you think it hasn’t gotten very much exposure, it’s bounce wasn’t great. But it was still a bounce (and a huge coup for his marketing team to get him on there).

  • ptslittlecomment

    I guess you are right Poporange. But I think Light On is a good effort. Certainly one that should get him respect for its difficulty in singing at least. Yet, I think his team should have gone for something with a broader appeal from the CD. It does seem like folks like some of the other material better and I am sure that they test marketed the songs before releasing anything. I’d like to know why they went with LO over some of the other selections that DC himself prefers. I truly think DC is very talented and deserves a career here. But I also know talent and success don’t always go hand in hand. Popularity wins the day!
    I think Archie’s career challenge will come in the transition from teen sensation to a more mature audience. Right now he seems to have a built in fan base in the age group most likely to download singles and CD’s. But teen fans are harder to retain when the “next best thing” comes along.
    I wish them both well.

  • ggdoorsfan

    Wow Kristen.. Adele w/ a 217% increase? And you’re right – getting on SNL was a great coup for DC and team this early in his career…. didn’t realize how much of an impact SNL could have on sales…

  • tinawina

    I remember Blake Lewis saying that they got results from testing singles back after Brake Anotha has already been picked as a single, so RCA may not have done that before LO was chosen. I bet if he consistently sings the same second song when he performs we’ll know which one won in the testing. LOL. Expect them to switch it in January.

  • snuffles

    Anyone know what Josiah’s sales numbers were?

  • ggdoorsfan

    David A’s “mature” base (I’m not all that old, but I can be considered mature, haha) has been downloading the singles and CD’s on Itunes as steadily as the tweeners…… :smile1_tb: No doubt there will be unseen challenges as he matures as an artist, and begins to expand, but I do think he has the potential to retain a good chunk of the current teens and tweeners, and fold them into his “mature” base if he continues to play his cards right… that’s what’s going to be exciting to watch – his growth, and how well he retains and/or continues to acquire new fans…

  • sma11ie

    I don’t think they’ll release a new single prior to the release of the album– they *just* came out with the LO video, and it’s not even for sale yet. I think the song needs time to build audience impression still.

    I think the problem with DC’s SNL sales bump was that the timing of the appearance wasn’t ideal–the album is only available for presale, and folks checking out David Cook on iTunes after SNL might have had that borderline reaction of, LO was good, but Declaration was awesome– wait, not for sale yet? I guess I’ll wait til the the rest of the album drops so I can check out the rest of the guys stuff and cherry pick singles I like. (At least, that’s what I would do for a new artist).

    Kirsten, I recall Adele’s album shooting to and staying at #1 on iTunes for a while after SNL– did her single go to #1 as well? The 217% increase was for the song?

  • 123abc456

    I think I am correct but it was not Adele’s song that took a bounce but her album so comparing her album to Light On is not a good comparison. David’s album took a bounce after the show but of course we do not know the numbers so we cannot compare bounces. We just have to wait and see.

  • E

    I’m not sure about other artists, but David A is very good at keeping in touch with his fans, at least a blog each week, voice mail, pictures. If he keeps this up, I see him retaining a good chunk of his fanbase while gaining new ones as time goes by. It will be interesting to watch.

  • cheese

    I’m more surprised by Jennifer’s singles sales than David’s. She’s #12 on the overall airplay chart and isn’t really doing any better in sales.

    There were definitely much, much better choices available for David’s single, but I never expected him to sell singles like Archie will. Jive seems to be the label to be on if you want major Top 40 airplay from the outset. However, Light On has sold more than “Human,” which was also performed on SNL and currently has more airplay, so I don’t really know how to feel about it. It’s sales aren’t too far off the Fall Out Boy single either, and the Killers and FOB both have their videos out. Huh.

    I think there are definitely songs on the album that have the potential to appeal to all those people who are buying songs like “Fall For You” and “Shattered.” I can’t see them dropping LO for the upcoming appearances since the shiny new expensive video just came out, but I have to hope that they won’t hold onto it for too long. If they never give him a second single with so many songs to choose from, then they’re crazy, but nothing really surprises me when it comes to how the labels treat the Idols. I think his album sales will be fine through the holidays regardless.

  • sma11ie

    However, Light On has sold more than à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Human,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  which was also performed on SNL and currently has more airplay, so I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really know how to feel about it. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s sales arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t too far off the Fall Out Boy single either, and the Killers and FOB both have their videos out. Huh.

    Thanks for that context. And btw, I love Human, (and I heart Brandon Flowers even though he’s getting too skinny, but that’s neither here nor there). The video’s kinda cool looking as well. I wish it were doing better. Anyway, I’d say the timing of their SNL appearance wasn’t ideal either. The album *just* went for pre-sale, like a month after their SNL appearance. Incidentally, pre-ordering the album gives you a new single, Spaceman right away, not Human. I find it interesting that RCA decided not to go that route of giving fans a different single for the pre-order… does that mean they’re *really* behind LO, or just a timing issue?

  • FolkFan

    My interpretation of them providing LO as the “preorder-get-this-song-immediately” is that the label would rather give up some sales of LO in order to get more record sales. Some of the sales that LO has had in the last couple of weeks will be deducted from DC’s totals once the preorders are downloaded.

    Just my interpretation.

  • Kirsten

    I think I am correct but it was not Adeleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s song that took a bounce but her album so comparing her album to Light On is not a good comparison.

    Both saw a bounce. Adele’s song “Chasing Pavement” went up 217% the week that she was on SNL (I would presume based mainly on that one day of sales) and another 72% the following week. Colplay’s song Viva La Vida only saw a 1% increase the week they were on SNL (it had been losing sales the week before) and a 16% increase the following week.

    For albums, Adele’s album sales increased 145% the week that she was on SNL (from #129 to #46) and saw an increase of 131% the following week (up to #11). Colplay’s album drop 11% the week they were on SNL (the 1 day didn’t help, but we’ll see have to wait and see if they went up the following week).

  • 123abc456

    Did Adeles song go to # 1 on itunes? Do you know her original sales numbers before that 217% bounce? I think that is all relevant because the 217% is based on her sales is it not? If her original numbers were low than that increase is not as significant as it appears. It is to her of course but I mean if you are comparing the sales to other artists.

  • Tony

    Whoa. “Light On” took a major hit even after having been performed on SNL? The song just isn’t connecting. And I don’t really see it doing any better next week since it’s still hanging around the 60s right now on iTunes.

    “Crush” seems to be doing pretty well.

  • FolkFan

    Only one day of the chart week was after SNL. And the “hit” probably reflects that some of LO’s sales from the prior week were connected to the new preorder on itunes.

  • IndyMuse

    I suspect that the sales bump from SNL will hit when the album becomes physically available. I suspect his appeal is to the album-buying public, more so than to downloaders. While SNL got him huge exposure due to the timing, it was a double-edged sword. Not having a physical album out there probably prevented the full effect from being apparent until later. Many may not want to buy until they can hear more of the songs. I don’t think you can understate the impact of having the better song totally unavailable.

  • frogcooke

    The highest I saw LO get after snl was up to 48 at one point. mostly around 50-52 though. It went to about 50… dropped a bit.. then up to 48 and back down again. I think the tiny bouce up to 48 may have been after the sales week on monday.

  • sma11ie

    Did Adeles song go to # 1 on itunes? Do you know her original sales numbers before that 217% bounce?

    Okay, so I was really curious, and felt bad about always demanding so many stats from Kirsten, so I looked this up: according to the 10/22 Hot Digital chart (SNL was on 10/18), the Adele’s single sold 14,486 that week, up from 4,565 previously. So, looking at units, not %, we see she went up 10K units. So of the 15 million viewers from that Palin episode, 10K bought her single, if we are to assume the whole increase was due to SNL. That is pretty impressive.

    LO sales last week were buoyed by the pre-order, so its sales were on the way down this week before SNL happened. But it’s hard to guess if any of that 19K sold came from the 12 million viewers from the McCain episode. I think it’s safe to say that it’s much less than 10K, because LO couldn’t have dropped to 9K without SNL (it was at 15K the week prior to the preorder). SO, it seems DC didn’t get an Adele-sized bump no matter how you slice it. But I do think it got a medium-sized bump. Chasing Pavements sold 25,023 the following week (10/26), so it seems the SNL bump was mostly captured in the second week (again, if we’re looking at units added, not % change from the previous weeks). I’m really curious to see next week’s sales for LO– one would expect a drop because there aren’t any big impact promotions going on this week, and the video isn’t for sale yet, but I’m guessing the SNL bump tempered it?

  • Kirsten

    Do you know her original sales numbers before that 217% bounce? I think that is all relevant because the 217% is based on her sales is it not? If her original numbers were low than that increase is not as significant as it appears. It is to her of course but I mean if you are comparing the sales to other artists.

    I’ve always maintained that it’s hard to compare artists/songs to each other because there are so many factors that allow one to say “but this is a special case”. It’s all apples to oranges. There is always an excuse for a song doing poorly or to discredit another song from doing well (please note that I’m just doing this as an opening caveat and not to pick on the OP).

    I simply think that, taken as a whole (putting all the information together), LO is not doing all that well out of the gate and it might be a good idea to switch horses given that there will be so many opportunities to set up a different single in the next few weeks. A single that might do a better job of moving units. A single that might be a better representation of Cook and the album. A single that might not cost as much to promote compared to what it brings in.

    Shows like Leno typically only allow the artist to sing one song. Why shouldn’t that song be the song that will benefit the most from the exposure? Beyonce and Gwen on their last albums ditched their first singles because they didn’t get traction. It happens all the time. Nothing wrong with the fact that the whoever picked the wrong song for release. Who remembers remembers what Beyonce’s first two singles were rom her last album? Most people probably recognize the third one that moved all those unites (“Irreplaceable”).

    Now, to answer your questions about Adele’s album song. Yes, she was virtually unheard of before appearing on SNL. That’s why it was a coup for her marketing team to get her on the show and that’s why the show proved to be a good marketing opportunity for her. Most of the audience already knew Coldplay and their song, so I think that performance was more about solidifying the status of the band/song. It’s always a feather in one’s cap to be on SNL, but I was under the impression that it was also a marketing opportunity for Cook. It didn’t work out so well. Some have argued because the better song was not available for sale, well, then, if that is the only reason he didn’t move units, that was a marketing error, IMO. People will have largely forgotten the SNL appearance in 3 weeks. iTunes songs cost 99 cents. I think that there is a lot of impulse buying going on there. And, if he only gets to sing one song on Leno, why shouldn’t that be the better song? If people didn’t buy the album/song because they didn’t like LO well enough on SNL (and prefered the other single), why not have him sing a song people might like?

    Anyway, numbers:
    Adele “Chasing Pavements” SNL-1: 4,565 (Off Chart)
    Adele “Chasing Pavements” SNL: 14,486 (82, 217%) 9,921
    Adele “Chasing Pavements” SNLplus1: 25,023 (51, 73%) 10,537
    Total Downloads Sold as of SNLplus1: 175,742 (23% sold since SNL week)

    Adele “19″ SNL-1: 4,407 (129,-8%)
    Adele “19″ SNL: 10,783 (46, 145%) 6,367
    Adele 19 SNLplus1: 24,926 (11, 131%) 14,143
    Total Albums Sold as of SNLplus1: 179,822 (20% sold since SNL week)

    Coldplay “Viva La Vida” SNL-1: 38,755 (31, -1%)
    Coldplay “Viva La Vida” SNL: 39,288 (26, 1%) 533
    Coldplay “Viva La Vida” SNLplus1: 45,500 (20, 16%) 5,712
    Total Downloads Sold as of SNLplus1: 2,558,524 (3% sold since SNL Week)

    Coldplay “Viva La Vida” Album SNL-1: 18,575 (23, 9%)
    Coldplay “Viva La Vida” Album SNL: 17,103 (22, -8%%) -1,472
    Total Albums Sold as of SNL: 1,828,647 (1% sold since SNL week)

    David Cook “Light On” SNL-1: 33,598 (35, 123%)
    David Cook “Light On” SNL: 19469 (66, -42%) -14,129
    Total Singles Sold as of SNL: 208,151 (8% sold since SNL week)

  • 123abc456

    Thanks for the numbers, I do appreciate it. I don’t want to beat a dead horse but I will make one last point. David’s CD premiered on itunes the week before SNL so he had higher numbers that week because of the CD. I do not believe that Viva La Vida or Adele 19 premiered the week before SNL. I agree when you say it is like comparing apples and oranges. I also must admit that I don’t put much stock in single sales because I am an album buyer myself and I think his album will do well. I also happen to love Light On. Just for full disclosure. But some exciting stuff out there and I am loving what I am seeing so far when it comes to the record David is putting out.

  • jpfan

    So many numbers. LO is slowly moving up in radio play but the downloads can’t seem to stabilize. Unless it gets major promo like SNL the song starts to fade quickly on iTunes.

    As long as Cook has strong pre-sales I think they stick with LO plus they sunk tons of $ into a brand new video. It’s not a disaster like Break Anotha which really put the end to Blake’s career with 19. Cook performing LO live won’t be disastrous. On the other hand if the goal is album sales, why not just starting doing Declaration at all the gigs instead of LO? And then quickly release that as a single in January.

  • Kirsten

    On the other hand if the goal is album sales, why not just starting doing Declaration at all the gigs instead of LO? And then quickly release that as a single in January.

    That’s a good idea. When he gets two songs, sing LO and Declaration. When he gets one song, mostly sing Declaration. If he’s doing a lot of same type shows (e.g. Regis and Kelly followed by Ellen which may share a lot of viewers, mix it up. Sing Declaration on Ellen and LO on Regis or something. If he gets on the View, sing a soggy song. Those viewers seem to appreciate a song that makes them cry).

    I know a lot of people like LO and that’s great. So, maybe I’m all wrong (long time readers of MJs know my predictive powers are not always the best and no record label has offered me a job, so they clearly don’t think much of my mad marketing skillz)

  • ianamy

    Go Crush!

    I think Cook will sell a lot of albums regardless LO because of the rock genre. Maybe RCA should stick to the no single release before album formula for Daughtry. They sure spent plenty of Cook’s future profit for promotion by now.

  • sma11ie

    Kirsten, I totally get what you’re saying, and agree with you that it seems LO didn’t get a good SNL bump compared to Adele. But I’m still not convinced this means the single isn’t connecting, or that the label needs to push out another single now.

    I found it interesting to look at the sales of Human after the Killers appeared on SNL. Human debuted the week of their SNL appearance, so it’s impossible to extrapolate sales bumps; nonetheless, their sales since SNL leads me to think that getting an Adele-sized sales bump from SNL might be an anomaly rather than something to be expected:

    Human dropped 9/30, The Killers went on SNL on 10/4, and the single’s first week sales were 70,091. IIRC, I do remember the Killers moving up on the iTunes Top 100 on Sunday after SNL. The week after, they dropped to 41,812, which seems like a normal drop to me, making me conjecture that they also didn’t get a very good SNL bump. Human’s sales since were 31,186 and 24,588, (can’t find this week’s) but it seems to be increasing in airplay, so I do feel like it’s a good single for them, despite not getting an obvious bump from SNL. ON THE OTHER HAND, they’ve dropped their second single on iTunes with the preorder, so maybe their label felt that Human wasn’t connecting and switched strategies like you’re suggesting for DC? But I kind of feel like that ship sailed for RCA when they decided to make LO the pre-order single rather than using the opportunity to drop the second single, like with the Killers.

    I don’t know though. It might also be a timeline thing. Day & Age went up for preorder 2 weeks after DC’s album, so this gave Human 2 more weeks before the second single went on sale. I’ve also heard Human’s AI # is higher than LO’s, even though they’ve been out the same amount of time, and Human had its big TV opportunity early on, while LO just kicked the big promo stuff in earnest (looking at DC’s schedule, it doesn’t seem to be ramping up until mid-month), so in a sense, LO hasn’t really been given a full shot yet, so I don’t think it’s a mistake for RCA to stick with it, at least until after the album releases.

  • Kirsten

    while LO just kicked the big promo stuff in earnest (looking at DCà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s schedule, it doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t seem to be ramping up until mid-month), so in a sense, LO hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really been given a full shot yet, so I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a mistake for RCA to stick with it, at least until after the album releases.

    But that’s a little backward. The single is supposed to be advertising for the album. The promo tour on album drop is supposed to be “Hey, you know that song you’ve heard a bunch of times and really like, well this is the album it’s from. Buy it!”. Using the promo tour to raise the profile of the single is like taking out an ad to get people to check out your ad. If the single can’t even move itself, how is it supposed to move an album? Then, you throw in the assessment of many fans that LO is not representative of the album and it’s one of their least favourite songs on the album, then I start to wonder what’s up with this single?

    Now, I will grant you that Rock moves fewer singles than Pop, but I’m not seeing this song have a big impact on the Rock charts. So, how are those rock fans supposed to find this song? I would suggest that SNL has a huge rock fan base, but again, they didn’t bite. When he sang his song about “Magic Rainbows” over the closing credits of AI in front of an audience of 33M (or whatever), he moved more than 200M units. When he sang a properly introduced Light On in front of 17M he moved 20K. Eh?

    I know Cook can move units (I’ve seen his post-Idol stats), so I’ve got to blame the song. I know he can get a stupid song about Rainbows to do well on a bunch of radio formats, so when a song in his genre limps up one chart, I’ve got to blame the song.

    If Cook waits until after all his November promo is over and LO still has no legs, he’s going to have a tougher time getting promo for his second song. Is Leno/Ellen/Sesame Street/Whoever going to want him back on their shows two weeks later if the first song he sang wasn’t popular? He’ll have to wait a couple months before hoping for another invite. So, he can go with LO, and I may be dead wrong about LO, but there seems to be better options out there. To me.

    And just watch, LO will go on to become the biggest song on the planet. Oops.

  • shell29

    I still think it’s too early to stick a fork in LO, and I doubt that RCA is even thinking about pulling the plug right now. The video just came out this week, and Monday was the first time anyone would have been able to hear sample snippets from the album. When I consider purchasing the album of a recording artist/band I’m not familiar with, I like to at least hear the album snippets or hear the album in full (when possible) before I decide to buy.

    I think by the middle of next month we’ll have a better idea of whether LO was indeed the wrong choice for a lead single. By that point, the album will have been out for about a month, the airplay should be up quite a bit from its current levels, and Cook will have performed this song several times while making the promotional rounds. If the single sales don’t improve and the album sales drop considerably following the initial Idol fanbase buying rush, then I think RCA will quickly move on to single #2.

  • sma11ie

    Kirsten, you make very valid points. The single is supposed to move the album– but if radio play is what’s supposed to move the single, why hasn’t DC been one radio tours this whole past month? That baffles me. And personally, I think it’d be a *great* idea if RCA heeded your suggestion and allowed DC to sing a different song for at least some of his 1-song TV gigs this month, but I’m not sure it will happen.

    Not to compare, but since you bring up the timing of 2nd invitations on talk shows, what was the timeline of Jive’s release of No Air after Tattoo and Jordin’s album didn’t take off? Just wondering if Jordin made the rounds promoting No Air soon after the initial press or not… I mean, as much as I have higher hopes for DC than Jordin, I’m curious about her marketing.

    ETA: Congrats to Magic Rainbow– looks like 2-3 more weeks to platinum!

  • Michelle

    sma11ie — (pbi) Jordin’s Tattoo was given a lot of time to grow…released late August and single #2 (No Air) wasn’t out till early February. So that’s 5 and a half months.

    Tattoo did get a Z100 premiere but I don’t know if she did massive amounts of press, and I seem to remember Tattoo took its time to really build up into a hit. It didn’t “smash” the way No Air did.

    Interestingly, even though No Air was really her breakthrough single (imo), they gave it less time, only about 4 months. Single #3, One Step At A Time was debuted at the AI7 finale (May) and released in early June and is still going (at 5 months now.)

  • poporange

    Yes I get keyboard in mouth disease often I ment no disrespect towards DC. Oh by “mature” did not mean age,I am no spring chicken by any accounts, what I ment different “song style” maybe sort of ballads josh Groban like or extra…Yes I think both have good carreers ahead of them .

    pts you make allt more sence than I will ever do keep blogging.

  • Kirsten

    sma11ie à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  (pbi) Jordinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Tattoo was given a lot of time to grow

    “Tattoo” was nurtured for a long time. Jive is kind of famous for doing that. One of the reasons they speculated that Barry got Clive’s job is that Barry had done a good job of creating hits with very little money. Clive is about throwing lots of money around and making a big splash. Sometimes the artist floats after the splash, sometimes they sink. He counts on those that survive earning enough to cover the costs of those that sank to the bottom. That was deemed to risky in this market because even big hits are smaller than they once were (so less money to cover the failures). That’s why RCA doesn’t have a reputation as being as patient as Jive.

    I think that Jive stuck with “Tattoo” because it was steadily growing. As long as it was growing, there was a hope that it would become a hit and it did (IIRC, it has the record for the Idol song with the largest number of downloads in a single week. Post Christmas sales on iTune are HUGE). “No Air” was the primary single for less time because it hit right out of the gate (due to the success of “Tattoo” and Chris Brown didn’t hurt either). So, there didn’t be that long growing phase.

    Light On is growing slowly on HAC, but that format doesn’t sell things all that well. The single has been up and down in sales. Up when there is a lot of promo, dropping like a stone as soon as the promo is pulled. It doesn’t seem to be able to float on its own very well.

  • frogcooke

    Hot 100:
    20 20 DAVID ARCHULETA CRUSH
    24 25 HUDSON*JENNIFER SPOTLIGHT-REMIXES
    27 35 JORDIN SPARKS ONE STEP AT A TIME
    34 36 CARRIE UNDERWOOD JUST A DREAM

    interesting moves:
    – 89 DAVID ARCHULETA ANGELS

    R&B 100
    2 2 HUDSON*JENNIFER SPOTLIGHT-REMIXES

  • soundscene

    ^^ Dang frog! You keep doing this to me! lol. I’m keeping mine up anyway. Heh.

    Billboard Hot 100:

    lw TW Artist Title
    20 20 DAVID ARCHULETA CRUSH
    24 25 HUDSON*JENNIFER SPOTLIGHT-REMIXES
    27 35 JORDIN SPARKS ONE STEP AT A TIME
    34 36 CARRIE UNDERWOOD JUST A DREAM
    – 89 DAVID ARCHULETA ANGELS

    R&B Hot 100
    2 2 HUDSON*JENNIFER SPOTLIGHT-REMIXES

    Light On could be in the Hot 100 somewhere, but it’s out of the top 50 and not listed as an interesting debut or mover. Angels charted with 23K sold and no airplay. Cook as 19K sold, and if LO’s airplay is over 4, then he should be somewhere in 50-100.

    Love the double Hot 100 smashes for Archie. I’m sure that will last all of this week, but it’s nice that Angels charted, especially since there’s pretty much no chance it’ll be a single.

  • ozarka

    Love the double Hot 100 smashes for Archie. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure that will last all of this week, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s nice that Angels charted, especially since thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pretty much no chance ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be a single.

    Please explain the definition of a “single.” I was under the impression that if you can buy the song singly by itself, then it’s a single. However, the comment above suggests that there is more to being a “single” than merely its availability for purchase separately from the rest of the album.

  • soundscene

    Please explain the definition of a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“single.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  I was under the impression that if you can buy the song singly by itself, then ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a single. However, the comment above suggests that there is more to being a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“singleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  than merely its availability for purchase separately from the rest of the album.

    By single I mean one released to radio or promoted otherwise on its own. Jive merely allowed people to purchase Angels ahead of time while pre-ordering David’s album. It’s basically an advance on David’s album. You could, technically, purchase Angels by itself without pre-ordering, but that was never the purpose of making it available.

  • ozarka

    Thanks so much for explaining that, Soundscene. Angels’ low position in the iTunes totem pole had me worried. I feel a lot better now. LOL!

  • undecided

    Clay Aiken à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“On My Way Hereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  200 (lw 200) Total: 145K

    I know his sales are low on this one but its 154k not 145k.

  • Kirsten

    I know his sales are low on this one but its 154k not 145k.

    Oops! Transcription error. Fixed now. Thanks for catching that.

  • ozarka

    duplicate

  • ozarka

    Crush Numbers

    lw TW Chart
    20 20 Hot 100
    41 42 Hot 100 Airplay
    16 14 Pop 100
    15 18 Pop 100 Airplay
    13 13 Mainstream Top 40
    14 13 Hot AC Tracks
    21 18 Hot Adult Top 40 Tracks
    16 15 Hot Digital Tracks
    16 15 Hot Digital Songs
    18 18 Canadian Hot 100
    23 24 Hot Canadian Digital Singles