Comments on: Idol Sales News – Week Ending 10/05/08 http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm American Idol - I Love This Cheesy Show Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:45:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: cookcricket http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm/comment-page-15/#comment-155427 cookcricket Sun, 12 Oct 2008 03:16:14 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm#comment-155427 <blockquote>David Cook on entertainment tonight is on youtube now. Search à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“David Cook on entertaiment tonightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , you à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹ll find it.</blockquote> YAY!!!!! Whew, that was awesome!!! Thanks for posting! :tongue1_tb:

David Cook on entertainment tonight is on youtube now.

Search à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“David Cook on entertaiment tonightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , you à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹ll find it.

YAY!!!!! Whew, that was awesome!!! Thanks for posting! :tongue1_tb:

]]> By: mj http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm/comment-page-15/#comment-155417 mj Sun, 12 Oct 2008 01:16:41 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm#comment-155417 <blockquote>The ad comes across as desperate, for lack of a better word, with its immediacy following the previous ad and three exclamation marks!!! Are we supposed to believe LO lacks promotion? How much more promotion does it need?</blockquote> Angry, baiting posts will get your posts placed into moderation. Check back, I editing one of your earlier posts. This isn't IDF or the scary boards. Read my guidelines before you post here again: http://mjsbigblog.com/?page_id=1172

The ad comes across as desperate, for lack of a better word, with its immediacy following the previous ad and three exclamation marks!!! Are we supposed to believe LO lacks promotion? How much more promotion does it need?

Angry, baiting posts will get your posts placed into moderation. Check back, I editing one of your earlier posts. This isn’t IDF or the scary boards. Read my guidelines before you post here again:

http://mjsbigblog.com/?page_id=1172

]]> By: dapingguo http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm/comment-page-15/#comment-155414 dapingguo Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:53:32 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm#comment-155414 David Cook on entertainment tonight is on youtube now. Search "David Cook on entertaiment tonight", you 'll find it. David Cook on entertainment tonight is on youtube now.

Search “David Cook on entertaiment tonight”, you ‘ll find it.

]]> By: Trina http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm/comment-page-15/#comment-155413 Trina Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:51:10 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm#comment-155413 RCA also had ads on Mediabase for TOML 2 weeks in a row, and that was to brag about the amount of adds it got and the next was to say it hit top 10 in AC and breaking in pop. They were obviously desperate then as well seeing how TOML was flopping and all. RCA also had ads on Mediabase for TOML 2 weeks in a row, and that was to brag about the amount of adds it got and the next was to say it hit top 10 in AC and breaking in pop. They were obviously desperate then as well seeing how TOML was flopping and all.

]]> By: E http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm/comment-page-15/#comment-155411 E Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:42:40 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm#comment-155411 J Hud's single sale is slow, and yet her album sold over 200k. Cook may do the same. I'm not worried about LO or DC. Just have to be patient that's all. About DA's fan sites, there are so many out there all over the place. Jive better hurry up with making his myspace look decent. When will his official site be ready? J Hud’s single sale is slow, and yet her album sold over 200k. Cook may do the same. I’m not worried about LO or DC. Just have to be patient that’s all.

About DA’s fan sites, there are so many out there all over the place. Jive better hurry up with making his myspace look decent. When will his official site be ready?

]]> By: shell29 http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm/comment-page-15/#comment-155409 shell29 Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:24:38 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm#comment-155409 <blockquote>I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see how LO can be considered an incredible success considering Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s own sales records. He used to have 11 songs in the Hot100 but now his highly anticipated first single struggles to make top 20. He used to top digital downloads but <strong>now only sells 109K</strong> for its first week, even after much à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“desperateà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  promotion as some have commented.</blockquote> Only 109K? :blink_tb: I'd say that's a pretty successful opening week under the circumstances.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see how LO can be considered an incredible success considering Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s own sales records. He used to have 11 songs in the Hot100 but now his highly anticipated first single struggles to make top 20. He used to top digital downloads but now only sells 109K for its first week, even after much à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“desperateà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  promotion as some have commented.

Only 109K? :blink_tb: I’d say that’s a pretty successful opening week under the circumstances.

]]> By: anijsch http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm/comment-page-15/#comment-155407 anijsch Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:17:30 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm#comment-155407 They had an ad timed on the itune release and this ad is timed for the official radio add. In the time between there has been an ad for Crush. They had an ad timed on the itune release and this ad is timed for the official radio add. In the time between there has been an ad for Crush.

]]> By: cruzceleste http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm/comment-page-15/#comment-155406 cruzceleste Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:10:48 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm#comment-155406 ^^ Not an expert but IMHO, as David Archuletas fan, will said that LO hasn ´t being having lots of promotion...I mean he had not being doing interviews, live performances, nor video... maybe once the single gets to the impact day RCA will do more promotion... Right now if I understend how Mediabase works, the promotions is for the media to add his songs to their rotation... not to the general public... ^^ Not an expert but IMHO, as David Archuletas fan, will said that LO hasn ´t being having lots of promotion…I mean he had not being doing interviews, live performances, nor video… maybe once the single gets to the impact day RCA will do more promotion… Right now if I understend how Mediabase works, the promotions is for the media to add his songs to their rotation… not to the general public…

]]> By: daniely http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm/comment-page-15/#comment-155404 daniely Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:58:48 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm#comment-155404 <blockquote>if it wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t for AI and the competitive expectations, everyone would already consider LO an incredible success for a newcomer.</blockquote> I don't see how LO can be considered an incredible success considering Cook's own sales records. He used to have 11 songs in the Hot100 but now his highly anticipated first single struggles to make top 20. He used to top digital downloads but now only sells 109K for its first week, even after much "desperate" promotion as some have commented. RCA put up a second ad (http://mediabase.com/WebLogon/WebLogon.asp) only one week after the first ad was taken down. The ad comes across as desperate, for lack of a better word, with its immediacy following the previous ad and three exclamation marks!!! Are we supposed to believe LO lacks promotion? How much more promotion does it need?

if it wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t for AI and the competitive expectations, everyone would already consider LO an incredible success for a newcomer.

I don’t see how LO can be considered an incredible success considering Cook’s own sales records. He used to have 11 songs in the Hot100 but now his highly anticipated first single struggles to make top 20. He used to top digital downloads but now only sells 109K for its first week, even after much “desperate” promotion as some have commented.

RCA put up a second ad (http://mediabase.com/WebLogon/WebLogon.asp) only one week after the first ad was taken down. The ad comes across as desperate, for lack of a better word, with its immediacy following the previous ad and three exclamation marks!!! Are we supposed to believe LO lacks promotion? How much more promotion does it need?

]]> By: cookcricket http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm/comment-page-15/#comment-155400 cookcricket Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:24:20 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm#comment-155400 For me, the bottom line is that DC can continue to have a career and I have by <strong>no means</strong> given up on that yet. I just want to say that I'm a fairly "typical" person and the way I am generally introduced to a song is on the radio, not online. Perhaps listening to music and discovering new music online is something that will happen more in the future so perhaps RCA wanted to "test the waters" so to speak, and see what kind of effect this would have on LO. I have seen links here on mj's to articles mentioning how the music industry is changing. Rob Cavello <em>seems</em> to me, to be a forward looking person. I also want to mention that even though TOML did not have radio play and sold well, it <strong>was</strong> introduced to a HUGE viewing audience the night of the finale. Sooo.....While I don't want to compare DC and DA's careers, I do want to consider the various approaches to the promotions for their singles/albums when looking at why one may seem to be doing better than the other. To me these comparisons are explanations, not excuses. For me, the bottom line is that DC can continue to have a career and I have by no means given up on that yet.

I just want to say that I’m a fairly “typical” person and the way I am generally introduced to a song is on the radio, not online. Perhaps listening to music and discovering new music online is something that will happen more in the future so perhaps RCA wanted to “test the waters” so to speak, and see what kind of effect this would have on LO.

I have seen links here on mj’s to articles mentioning how the music industry is changing. Rob Cavello seems to me, to be a forward looking person.

I also want to mention that even though TOML did not have radio play and sold well, it was introduced to a HUGE viewing audience the night of the finale.

Sooo…..While I don’t want to compare DC and DA’s careers, I do want to consider the various approaches to the promotions for their singles/albums when looking at why one may seem to be doing better than the other.

To me these comparisons are explanations, not excuses.

]]> By: Trina http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm/comment-page-14/#comment-155399 Trina Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:14:58 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm#comment-155399 This is the last thing I'll say. MySpace has nothing to do with Amazon or iTunes e-mails. The only way you get anything through MySpace is through a bulletin. And there are plenty of people who friend an artist on MySpace but don't get spam e-mails or search out message boards. I'm a Kelly Clarkson fan but no longer frequent her message board, don't belong to a fan club, haven't signed up for e-mail updates. I rely on bulletins for major announcements. And there's no proof "millions" received these spam e-mails. This is the last thing I’ll say. MySpace has nothing to do with Amazon or iTunes e-mails. The only way you get anything through MySpace is through a bulletin. And there are plenty of people who friend an artist on MySpace but don’t get spam e-mails or search out message boards. I’m a Kelly Clarkson fan but no longer frequent her message board, don’t belong to a fan club, haven’t signed up for e-mail updates. I rely on bulletins for major announcements. And there’s no proof “millions” received these spam e-mails.

]]> By: LK08 http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm/comment-page-14/#comment-155398 LK08 Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:07:49 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm#comment-155398 Noctum... Funny thing about DA's fansites. His fansites are just as you say Cook's have been. There are tons and tons of sites for him. Fanblast WAS a popular one, but because of a personel issue during tour, several people made a new website called Fans of David and that has been a more popular one. Several of the Archuleta's family friends post regularly on it. I regularly visit about 5 websites, but there are tons of various websites and people are spread out all over. I don't know about Cook's sites, but many of the DA fansites seem to work with each other. The fans go to many sites and report in their comments about something they saw on another site. People seem to be fine with it, as long as people give credit to where the comments or info came from. The two sites I mentioned above tend to be older 20 fans (averaging in the 30's-40's I think), while most of the posters on the AI forum and some others tend to be tweens and teens. Anyway, they all seem to work on many of the same goals and cooperate, but they cater to different demographics. Tigervixxen- I totally agree, and if it wasn't for AI and the competitive expectations, everyone would already consider LO an incredible success for a newcomer. Noctum… Funny thing about DA’s fansites. His fansites are just as you say Cook’s have been. There are tons and tons of sites for him. Fanblast WAS a popular one, but because of a personel issue during tour, several people made a new website called Fans of David and that has been a more popular one. Several of the Archuleta’s family friends post regularly on it.

I regularly visit about 5 websites, but there are tons of various websites and people are spread out all over. I don’t know about Cook’s sites, but many of the DA fansites seem to work with each other. The fans go to many sites and report in their comments about something they saw on another site. People seem to be fine with it, as long as people give credit to where the comments or info came from.

The two sites I mentioned above tend to be older 20 fans (averaging in the 30′s-40′s I think), while most of the posters on the AI forum and some others tend to be tweens and teens. Anyway, they all seem to work on many of the same goals and cooperate, but they cater to different demographics.

Tigervixxen- I totally agree, and if it wasn’t for AI and the competitive expectations, everyone would already consider LO an incredible success for a newcomer.

]]> By: tigervixxxen http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm/comment-page-14/#comment-155397 tigervixxxen Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:07:10 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm#comment-155397 anijsch, people are talking about a bulletin on myspace thats sent out to everyone. Since DC's myspace sent out a bulletin about his ET appearance then there is some reason they are not pushing the single from there. The way I look at it its ok if Crush is a bigger hit than Light On. David doesn't have to beat Archie in every single statistic to validate his win, does he? If David is supposed to be such a "different" Idol winner then its ok if his path is atypical. A lot about what we are talking about is in reference to playing the pop/Top40/commerical game and so far LO is doing ok, well see if it really takes off like many of us hope it does. But at the end of the day does David have to be considered a huge commerical success to be considered a success? I know he's going to need some commercial viability in order to make money and justify a second album. But if Archie is more commercial of the two does that automatically make David C the loser? anijsch, people are talking about a bulletin on myspace thats sent out to everyone. Since DC’s myspace sent out a bulletin about his ET appearance then there is some reason they are not pushing the single from there.

The way I look at it its ok if Crush is a bigger hit than Light On. David doesn’t have to beat Archie in every single statistic to validate his win, does he? If David is supposed to be such a “different” Idol winner then its ok if his path is atypical. A lot about what we are talking about is in reference to playing the pop/Top40/commerical game and so far LO is doing ok, well see if it really takes off like many of us hope it does. But at the end of the day does David have to be considered a huge commerical success to be considered a success? I know he’s going to need some commercial viability in order to make money and justify a second album. But if Archie is more commercial of the two does that automatically make David C the loser?

]]> By: anijsch http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm/comment-page-14/#comment-155395 anijsch Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:49:13 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm#comment-155395 I don't think myspace give the possibility to sent mail to all your friends. You have to subscribe for a newsletter or the blogs to get an email. And my myspace newsletter email has been in my spam folder and if I hadn't read here that others has received it, I wouldn't have checked. I don’t think myspace give the possibility to sent mail to all your friends. You have to subscribe for a newsletter or the blogs to get an email.
And my myspace newsletter email has been in my spam folder and if I hadn’t read here that others has received it, I wouldn’t have checked.

]]> By: shell29 http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm/comment-page-14/#comment-155393 shell29 Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:32:02 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-sales-news-week-ending-100508.htm#comment-155393 <blockquote>I simply wanted to point out that à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Crushà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  numbers are good in any week. People keep saying that à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Crushà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  was up against weak competition. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s making an assumption as well. Was the competition à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“weakà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  or was à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Crushà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  just that strong? We canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t state definitively. Rihannaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Disturbiaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  is a 900 pound gorilla. I think it could go mano-to-mano with Pinkà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“So Whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  if they debuted in the same week (respective number twos both weeks we are discussing). Again, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not like à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Crushà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  was topping the January album charts where many argue that is an easy feat to do (you wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get that argument from me, though, because I think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still hard to do because you are working in a slumping market as well).</blockquote> I agree with you Kirsten. I mean, as far as hit singles go, Disturbia is a beast. Definately not what I would call "weak" competition.

I simply wanted to point out that à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Crushà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  numbers are good in any week. People keep saying that à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Crushà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  was up against weak competition. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s making an assumption as well. Was the competition à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“weakà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  or was à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Crushà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  just that strong? We canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t state definitively. Rihannaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Disturbiaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  is a 900 pound gorilla. I think it could go mano-to-mano with Pinkà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“So Whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  if they debuted in the same week (respective number twos both weeks we are discussing). Again, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not like à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Crushà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  was topping the January album charts where many argue that is an easy feat to do (you wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get that argument from me, though, because I think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still hard to do because you are working in a slumping market as well).

I agree with you Kirsten. I mean, as far as hit singles go, Disturbia is a beast. Definately not what I would call “weak” competition.

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