Comments on: Idol Sales News – Week Ending 08/31/08

By: primeminister

primeminister — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:21:12 +0000

To me JordinÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a true Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…â€œnew artist.Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ I donÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Idol gave her much lift off. SheÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just somebody whoÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s made tons of new fans.

I agree, Jordin wasn’t my favorite on the show, but she has surely come further than expected thanks to her management’s and label’s strategic marketing and her likability that continues to win her new fans, especially in the younger crowds. A big congratulation to her for her success!

By: Pam

Pam — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:15:08 +0000

Here are the download numbers from Idol Chatter HERE

David C.'s The Time of My Life skids 45-61, selling 21,000, a 29% drop, for a total of 843,000.

By: jpfan

jpfan — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:35:14 +0000

I’ve always been confused about the Mediabase charts and the different ones than Ken Barnes uses. I think his are the ones that music insiders use and are published weekly. I didn’t mean to downplay getting a #1 even for a day. It’s a big thing. But I just remember when I followed Wait for You, there was a difference between Mediabase and the more official, published Billboard charts.Too bad, Ken stopped doing his radio play updates for the Idols.

Anyway, a big boo to Mediabase for making their more extensive charts no longer available to the general public. Boo.

By: Pam

Pam — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:27:49 +0000

Here is the complete list of Idol album sales #'s from Idol Chatter HERE.

By: Kirsten

Kirsten — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:27:19 +0000

TOML went to #1 on the AC chart. This may be the first time a coronation single hit #1 on any Mediabase chart however. That I donÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know for sure.

I don’t know either. I know that “A Moment Like This” went to number 4 on a couple of the BB charts, but I don’t know where it got to on Mediabase. BB uses BDS (part of the Neilsen family) for monitoring stations. They are usually pretty close though.

The #1 that TOML hit only lasted for a day so I donÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think it will be reflected in the published charts. Kristen is the expert here not me.

I’m sorry, but I don’t know when Mediabase “officially” releases it’s charts if ever. It kind of looks like it does them on Saturdays based on when their “Published” charts are dated on AllAccess (that would likely mean polling from Friday to Friday), but that’s just speculation. For BB, airplay charts are from Monday to Sunday (like the sales charts), but for the mixed data charts like the Hot 100, it’s Wednesday through Tuesday.

Here is BB’s info about charts: BB Chart Methodology

That said, even if TOML doesn’t make it to number 1 on a published chart, it’s still an accomplishment in my book. Dates for charts are pretty arbitrary if you ask me, so what does it matter what day it goes to number 1? Just my opinion.

By: jpfan

jpfan — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:08:57 +0000

There is no one “Mediabase.” Mediabase is the name of a company that keeps tracks of radio play on a variety of radio stations of different formats. So there is a Mediabase rolling chart for country stations, Adult Comtemporary, Top 40 stations, etc.

TOML went to #1 on the AC chart. This may be the first time a coronation single hit #1 on any Mediabase chart however. That I don’t know for sure. The #1 that TOML hit only lasted for a day so I don’t think it will be reflected in the published charts. Kristen is the expert here not me.

By: spanishfan

spanishfan — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:00:30 +0000

TOML is the highest rating on Mediabase out of all the IdolsÃƒâ€š ´coronation songs. The nearest were Kelly at No. 4 and Carrie at No. 12.

By: noctem seizure

noctem seizure — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:24:24 +0000

I also agree about Jordin– her success is almost as organic as any artist in the industry. She never started with the initial sales surge that first propels the more popular Idols. Of course we should also point out that she owes Chris Brown a huge thank you.

By: spritely

spritely — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:05:11 +0000

It does look as if TOML has peaked on all three charts, which makes it kind of sweet and funny that it got one day at #1 on one of them. (I wonder if Ken Barnes realizes that, since he was off on Labor Day.) Of course, if there’s anything I’ve learned from my new (thank you, Mr. Cook, lol) chart obsessions, it’s that You. Can. Never. Tell. What goes up inevitably goes down. . .and then sometimes back up again. It’s not called the Magic rainbow for nothin’.

Oprah! Olympians! David Cook! Rainbows! Pot o’ Gold!

Personally, and esp. after reading LadyMadonna’s historical perspective above, I think platinum is a strong probability rather than just a distant possibility.

By: E

Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:00:24 +0000

I think TOML will go platinum! Seems the right song for this year.

Congrats to Jordin, love that song.

Archie’s sales not bad either. I estimated 45k for last week.

By: ladymadonna

ladymadonna — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:46:55 +0000

Even without the Oprah appearance I still think TOML has a decent shot to ultimately go platinum. I know it seems inconceivable, but the numbers are there.

The tour will wrap in three more weeks and TOML should have sold somewhere in the neighborhood of 880-900K at that point. Kelly’s ‘A Moment Like This’ was released in 2002 but has sold almost 350K additional copies within the past 3-4 years. Taylor sold 60K additional copies of ‘Do I Make You Proud’ after the end of the S5 tour, and he did that without the benefit of a hit album outside the AI fanbase. If Cook makes a splash with his record release in November, I don’t think it’s a stretch that he could sell another 100K to new fans who want the complete Cook catalog for an additional $0.99.

Or maybe I’ve just been tasting too much of the magic rainbow. But I still think we have not heard the end of this song, even as radio airplay finally starts to wane.

By: FolkFan

FolkFan — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:32:57 +0000

Is it official that he’s on the Monday telecast, as a musical guest? That would be quite a lift, I would think.

By: Anne67

Anne67 — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:27:36 +0000

To me JordinÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a true Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…â€œnew artist.Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ I donÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Idol gave her much lift off. SheÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just somebody whoÃƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s made tons of new fans.

jpfan I totally agree with you. She has done very well for herself for not having that huge of a fan base after idol. Her album didn’t do much for me at first…but I find myself singing along to her songs on the radio;)

Wishing Jordin continue success…she seems to be the only idol from season 6 still going strong.

By: GwendolynD

GwendolynD — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:05:40 +0000

He’s on Oprah next Monday with the Olympians. As the only musical guest, my guess is that he will sing Magic Rainbows. I’ll bet it makes a reappearance.

By: jpfan

jpfan — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:04:51 +0000

It looks like TOML has peaked on all three radio charts. But this song has legs. If he’s doing it on Oprah, that will sell some downloads. So platinum is a possibility. Once the song loses the bullet, it usually goes down the Top 40/HAC charts fairly quickly. But it’ll be on AC radio forever.

Jordin continues to be the “stealth” Idol champion. Another major hit although not a monster like the other two. To me Jordin’s a true “new artist.” I don’t think Idol gave her much lift off. She’s just somebody who’s made tons of new fans.