Idol Sales News – Week Ending 07/01/12

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Happy 4th of July!

In this week’s sales, will Idol’s Carly Rae’s “Call Me Maybe” be able to fend off the combined sales of the Voice’s Adam’s Maroon’s 5 “Payphone” to top the digital and Hot 100 charts or will the complete-my-album purchases sink the song about antiquated technology? Tune in for the Battle of the Songs about Phones!

In the album front, how will Maroon 5 do? How many Idols/XFactorers/Sing-offers be on the official charts?

This is the weekly sales thread. Please post numbers as you find them. Thanks!

Idol albums Via Idol Chatter

Carrie Underwood, Blown Away (15,000, -16%, 602,000) (#23 Billboard 200)
Kelly Clarkson, Stronger (7,000, -17%, 846,000) (#54 BB200)
Casey Abrams, Simple Life (4,000, debut, 4,000) (#87 BB200)
Adam Lambert, Trespassing (4,000, -22%, 135,000) (#115 BB200)
Scotty McCreery, Clear as Day (3,000, -2%, 1.079 million) (#133 BB200)
Haley Reinhart, Listen Up! (2,000, -11%, 41,000) (#189 BB200)
Mandisa, What If We Were Real (1,000, -11%, 191,000)

Idol-related albums

One Direction, Up All Night (39,000, -6%, 899,000) (#8 Billboard 200)
Soundtrack, Rock of Ages (28,000, -26%, 131,000) (#10 Billboard 200)
Various, Now That’s What I Call Music! 42 (17,000, -10%, 336,000) (#18 BB200)
Jason Aldean, My Kinda Party (10,000, -7%, 2.662 million) (#36 BB200)
David Guetta, Nothing but the Beat (4,000, -2%, 338,000) (#106 BB200
Tyga, Careless World (4,000, -3%, 257,000) (#107 BB200)
Various, WOW Hits 2012 (3,000, +8%, 294,000) (#166 BB200)

 
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  • Karen C

    I think rock is making a comeback of sorts, or at least alternative music is, which is where I would put Gotye and Fun. Interesting, I read an interview with Chris Cornell, and he also thinks alternative rock is making a comeback, and he said it was because Adele and Gotye are doing so well.

  • Anonymous

    I’d agree to calling it alt rock, since that’s a big label that would apply to everyone from Adele to Gotye to Mumford and Sons.  It means that we’ll hear some diversity on the radio, but I’d point out that all of these acts, with maybe the slight exception of Gotye, incorporate some familiar elements of pop music into their songs.

  • http://twitter.com/Scottyasia Scottyasia

    [quote]Anybody know the numbers for ILYTB or TTWG? ILYTB should be getting closer to platinum, it was almost 800,000 back in Feb. I think TTWG was sitting around the 600,000 mark then, maybe more. Anyone able to get this information?
    [/quote]
    From IDF, where Scotty’s dad uses to come to update for us his fans.

    ILYTB sold 818,571 
    TTWG sold 693,863 – Almost 700.000

    Both songs = 1,512,434 – So proud!

    These above updates were 2,5 months ago. Not sure how many more singles sold since then.  But with time ILYTB may reach Platinum no doubt.

  • Anonymous

    ILYTB hasn’t been in the iTunes Top 1000 for awhile, so the best we can do is try to estimate, based off of the numbers we do get.

    For example, last week, the lowest selling Idol-related song that Brian M listed was Before He Cheats, which sold approx 5000 in that week. That song has consistently been in the mid-200′s on the overall iTunes chart recently. So if a song in the mid-200s on the chart sold 5K in a week, its unlikely that a song that is totally out of the Top 1000 would sell more than 1K in a week.

    But let’s give Scotty the benefit of the doubt and say  ILYTB has managed to sell an average of 2K per week since that last report you have. In 2.5 months’ time, that would mean it would have sold an additional 20K. Add that to the 818,571 you have, and a decent estimate for ILYTB’s current sales would be around 840K. If you went with an average of 1K per week, then you’d be looking at a current total of about 830K. 

    TTWG is currently on the iTunes Top 1000, ranking in the 800′s. Again, you are looking at probably no more than 2000K per week for a song ranked in the 800′s on the overall chart. So, if use a weekly average of 1K-2K, then TTWG’s current total would be approximately somewhere between 704-714K.

    But again, these are just guesstimates.

  • http://twitter.com/Scottyasia Scottyasia

    I love this guesstimates…. *smiling face*

    I use to try to figure out the selling numbers of the songs at the bottom of the top 1000 to see how much ILYTB could sell, if it is out of top 1000. But tbh I don’t think the song out of top 1000 could sell 1K in a week, let’s just say 300 – 500 average perhaps ? I’m so happy to see TTWG is on the top 1000 again, and I think if it could hang in there long time enough like Before He Cheats… The song would have a chance to hit Platinum too.

    But again I truly hope your estimate is right, you made me smile and happy… So thank you for your post!

    So can we say Scotty is going to have upcoming 2 Platinum singles ? WOW thinking of this makes me want to fly to the moon because of happiness…Ha Ha Ha….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    Adele, Gotye, Mumford and Sons and .fun are NOT rock! Adele is retro soul, the others are “alternative to the mainstream” maybe but not rock. Yes I’m aware that they get lots of airplay on so called alt rock stations but “alt rock” has become somewhat of a meaningless term these days. Much of what is played on alt rock these days isn’t rock at all, which is why when I listen to rock radio I only listen active rock.

  • Anonymous

    Adele, Gotye, Mumford and Sons and .fun are NOT rock! Adele is retro soul, the others are “alternative to the mainstream” maybe but not rock. Yes I’m aware that they get lots of airplay on so called alt rock stations but “alt rock” has become somewhat of a meaningless term these days. Much of what is played on alt rock these days isn’t rock at all, which is why when I listen to rock radio I only listen active rock.

    I think the term alt. rock as it applies to these artists, was coined in the late 1980′s and the 1990′s, and refers to them not being mainstream, and not how their music is the same style as what used to be called rock.  Styles evolve, so all of these people would be placed in one of rock’s subgenres.

  • Anonymous

    Well, it all depends on how you define things, doesn’t it? To me, Adele is not rock — she is soul/pop. But I’d say Mumford & Sons and Gotye are alternative rock. They fit very clearly into that genre in the current marketplace. They may not be what someone else considers rock, but everyone’s personal definition of rock is going to be different. It’s not like there is only one style of music that is considered rock — for instance REM and Avenged Sevenfold are two entirely different bands — but that doesn’t mean neither of them are rock bands. I have had a long running argument with a friend of mine who doesn’t think The Beatles should be called a rock band. Like I say, it just depends on how someone defines rock personally. 

    But radio and the music industry clearly define Gotye and Mumford & Sons as alternative rock. So there you go…

  • Anonymous

    Oh, not to rain on your parade, but I think you misinterpreted my post. Neither ILYTB nor TTWG is all that close to going platinum. One or both may eventually do so, but at the current rate that they are selling, it would take ILYTB at least 18 more months to reach that mark — and TTWG probably at least 2 more years. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DJ4FPAE2BM4XDCNVQITJSS3S2Q Sue

    But radio and the music industry clearly define Gotye and Mumford & Sons as alternative rock. So there you go…

    The only reason radio and the music industry define them as alt rock is because they don’t clearly fit into the other defined popular formats (Pop, Urban, Country). So just because it’s not pop, urban or country we should just call it alternative rock? The “alternative” part I have no issue with, it’s the “rock” part I contest. Pearl Jam is what real alternative rock sounds like.

  • Anonymous

    When the term alt. rock took off it was used to describe acts that didn’t fit into any of the other genres.  More importantly, it was used to describe those who weren’t getting airplay on mainstream radio, when those acts became more popular, and started getting played they suddenly lost the  alt. rock label.  I think the acts that you mentioned would still consider themselves to be alt. rock, mainly because of the styles that they have combined to come up with their sounds.

  • Carriefan1

    Billboard 200

    Carrie Underwood – #24
    Kelly Clarkson – #58
    Casey Abrams – DEBUTED at #101
    Adam Lambert – #137
    Scotty McCreery – #162

    Haley Reinhart did NOT enter back into the top 200 this week.

  • Anonymous

    nm

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2GSMAIVVJS4KFW5L3XHBUO46DA LUCIE

    We are prepared to wait as long as it takes. Us Scotty fans have a lot of patience.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GJ7GOGSVLTJY6SJDVVZYAEUL4Y Jean White

     

    Idol Chatter

    Idol albums

    Carrie Underwood, Blown Away (15,000, -16%, 602,000) (#23 Billboard 200)
    Kelly Clarkson, Stronger (7,000, -17%, 846,000)(#54 BB200)
    Casey Abrams, Simple Life (4,000, debut, 4,000) (#87 BB200)
    Adam Lambert, Trespassing (4,000, -22%, 135,000) (#115 BB200)
    Scotty McCreery, Clear as Day (3,000, -2%, 1.079 million) (#133 BB200)
    Haley Reinhart, Listen Up! (2,000, -11%, 41,000) (#189 BB200)
    Mandisa, What If We Were Real (1,000, -11%, 191,000)

    I wonder what happened….Brian’s BB Chart Placement and Billboard’s are not matching at all for Carrie, Kelly, Casey, Adam, and Scotty. Strange! According to UK Mix AND Billboard itself, Carrie is #24 (not #23), Kelly is #58 (not #54), Casey #101 (not #87), Adam is #137 (not #115), and Scotty is #162 (not #133).  I didn’t see Haley on the chart at all. (I don’t think I missed her)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GJ7GOGSVLTJY6SJDVVZYAEUL4Y Jean White

     Am sorry Carriefan1, I didn’t get to 2nd page when I posted the difference in BB’s chart position that I saw today and Brian’s from yesterday.

  • windmills

    The reason Brian’s chart rankings don’t match Billboard’s is that Brian gets his numbers from the Current Albums chart while the Billboard 200 is a comprehensive chart that includes catalog albums.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GJ7GOGSVLTJY6SJDVVZYAEUL4Y Jean White

    Then Brian’s numbers aren’t actual BB 200 positions, right? I just had never noticed (or checked BB against Brian’s numbers) before.

  • Anonymous

    Billboard usually releases the top 200 current albums first, and then later in the day they will release the one that has both the current and catalog albums.  They used to only show the current albums, they didn’t change things until the end of 2009.  I guess the answer is that yes, Brian’s positions are Billboard positions, just not positions that represent every album that was sold last week.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GJ7GOGSVLTJY6SJDVVZYAEUL4Y Jean White

     Thanks. (I guess! LOL) UK Mix showed the same positions for BB Top 200 as Billboard for those idols mentioned, and Haley is out of the Top 200 overall; Casey’s, Adam’s and Scotty’s are all WAY lower. Last week Brian listed Adam at #107, but BB shows Trespassing was #109 prior to this week’s #137. Confusing, but if we’re to go by BB Top 200, it looks like their actual Top 200 is what counts.

  • Anonymous

    “Real” rock doesn’t exist.  The genre itself is the bastard child of blues, folk, rockabilly and rhythm and blues and has survived by as long as it has by bringing in elements from other genres and reinventing itself over the years.

    At any rate, Gotye’s biggest hit references ? and the Mysterians, a proto-punk band, .fun borrows stylings from Queen, which veered between progressive rock and glam rock, and Mumford and Sons borrows from a long-standing folk-rock tradition in the UK from bands like Fairport Convention.

    That Pearl Jam references Springsteen instead doesn’t make them more legitimate as rock musicians (and I like some PJ and adore Springsteen).

  • Karen C

    I’ve seen Adele classified as adult alternative, though, I’m not sure if it really falls under alternative rock, but Gotye and Mumford and Sons do.

    I agree that rock is a broad category, especially alternative rock.  I think for some people rock means hard rock or metal, and not the softer forms of rock.

  • Karen C

    The “alternative” part I have no issue with, it’s the “rock” part I contest. Pearl Jam is what real alternative rock sounds like.

    Pearl Jam’s music is a subgenre of alternative rock,and is closer to hard rock.   But REM is considered alternative rock too,  and I heard Gotye today, and his music actually reminded me of Peter Gabriel, who would also be considered rock.   Anyone from REM to Soundgarden can be considered alternative rock.

  • Anonymous

    UK Mix posts both charts too.  I don’t think it’s about what counts, one chart shows the rankings for just current albums, and the other shows the rankings when you combine catalog and current albums.  The one that is posted on Billboard.com is the combined chart, but they have thousands of charts, and also release the one that just has the current albums, and that’s how Brian came up with those rankings. 

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