Idol Sales News – Week Ending 01/16/11

With album sales collapsing this January, Crystal Bowersox just keeps moving those CDs. With just the Idol buzz and a few video plays, she somehow sustains her sales and only drops 7 places on the chart. Imagine what she could do with some radio spins. We just have her numbers for now (thanks Mr. ProducerMan! Wish there were more like you).

Updated: Added Album Numbers. I will attempt to forgo the Disclaimer.

Brian at Idol Chatter has this suggestion:
In the meantime, I guess we’ll have plenty of time to talk about the new audition songs. And, while realize this is probably wishful thinking, just maybe Fox will take a cue from Glee’s continued chart dominance (that show has four albums from two seasons in the Billboard 200, and they outsold the Idol albums last week by nearly 40%) and let this year’s studio performances show up on the iTunes and SoundScan charts. Then we could really have some fun.

What do you think? It would certainly create some buzz and the fans would have a new venue to compete in (buying songs, not just because they want them, but to also show their support (read: convince everybody that their Idol is the one that should win)), but it might make the race look like it’s over before it really even gets started. I certainly would like to see those numbers.

Albums
54 Crystal Bowersox “Farmer’s Daughter” 7,144 (-24%; lw 9,444)Total: 122,955 (47) #11 on Rock (8 last week)
106 Carrie Underwood “Play On” 4K (-16%; lw 5K ) Total: 1.933M (103)
122 Lee DeWyze “Live It Up” 4K (+3%; lw 4K) Total: 109K (147)
141 Fantasia “Back to Me” 3K (-23%; 4K) Total: 391K (124)
175 Daughtry “Leave This Town” 3K (-15%; lw 3K) Total: 1.231M (170)
Daughtry “Daughtry” 2K (-12%)
Jason Castro “Who I Am” 1K (+71%) Total: 12K

Rounded numbers from Brian at Idol Chatter.

  • Jae

    I’m really happy for her. I don’t think that a new artist with a sound that is less than uber commercial could hope for better. I agree, some radio spins and the right song and she will do even better. I still think she could get some country radio spins with like Farmer’s Daughter.

  • springboard

    The numbers from Brian are up
    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/idolchatter/post/2011/01/plenty-of-room-for-new-idols-on-the-sales-charts/1

    Lee didn’t do too badly either
    Lee DeWyze, Live It Up (4,000, +3%, 109,000) (#122 BB200)

  • luly

    Good for Crystal for now having a big sales drop :).

    I’m not very familiar with the Triple A format, so is Crystal’s songs there is moving in a pace that is considered normal for that formal?

    I know that she is going for add on HAC only in the end of next month, but is there any word on about when she will be pushed to country stations?

  • Landmd

    Lee’s total is off by 1k, should be 110,000. His total last week was 106,000.

  • Tess

    Since both Lee and Crystal have been pretty quiet as the New Year has begun I would hazard a guess that all the publicity about the new season of Idol has helped them in album sales.

  • Eriko

    Lee didn’t do badly either
    Lee DeWyze, Live It Up (4,000, +3%, 109,000) (#122 BB200)

    Congrats to Lee. I wonder how much the Amazon MP3 deal contributed. Amazon reported it went up over 4000% in Movers & Shakers in MP3 Albums, not sure what that could mean in sales. Anyone know? RCA and Amazon using twitter to announce a 3.99 special must have some impact. Hope this gives Lee a moral boost

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    I’m not very familiar with the Triple A format, so is Crystal’s songs there is moving in a pace that is considered normal for that formal?

    AAA is a very, very small format with only 28 monitored stations. Crystal has only 3 AAA adds so far. Her song went for adds last week. I don’t folow this format, so I don’t know if this is normal.
    Today’s AAA chart:
    http://www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/insideradio/charts.asp?format=10&showyear=y&dpt=n

    As you can see, #1 song was spun 613 times in the past 7 days and #40 song received only 62 spins.

  • springboard

    Lee’s and to a lesser extend Crystal’s albums should get a bump next week from the start of the new season. Last year, it was the equivalent of this week, as premiered on 12 January.

  • Kirsten

    Lee’s total is off by 1k, should be 110,000. His total last week was 106,000.

    Not necessarily. These are rounded numbers. For instance, if he sold 105,500 last week and 3,500 this week, it would round up to 106K and 4K, but the total would still be 109K. Although, sometimes Brian does make a rounding or typing error.

  • Kirsten

    As you can see, #1 song was spun 613 times in the past 7 days and #40 song received only 62 spins.

    For some reason, though, AAA listeners really seem to be big buyers of music. I’m frequently amazed at how many units people from that chart move given the AI.

  • Eriko

    For some reason, though, AAA listeners really seem to be big buyers of music. I’m frequently amazed at how many units people from that chart move given the AI.

    Given Ray LaMontagne popularity on AAA plus his Grammy nominations, yet selling less than 300K since August. Not sure I follow quite what you mean by moving many units. Is 300K considered a lot for someone mainly played on AAA stations?

  • springboard

    Given Ray LaMontagne popularity on AAA plus his Grammy nominations, yet selling less than 300K since August. Not sure I follow quite what you mean by moving many units. Is 300K considered a lot?

    Compared to the audience impression for AAA, I think that it is quite good.
    The #1 on AAA has a 2 mil AI compared to 26 on HAC, 40 on Country and 85 on Top 40.

  • Eriko

    The #1 on AAA has a 2 mil AI compared to 26 on HAC

    What does “AI” mean in this context? On this board, an ignorant question, so everyone is free to laugh :)

  • aprilfoolish

    Do mp3 gifts count when you buy them or when the recipient redeems them? I’m happy that Lee went up a bit in sales and had a nice bump up on the chart. Nice going for Crystal too.

  • jpfan

    Good for Crystal. That’s not bad considering her single is getting minimal airplay. They should bring both back early in the Idol season and maybe feature their songs during the audition shows. Any promo can only help.

    AI is the total audience (ears) a song gets when it’s played on the radio.

    One play on a station with 1 million listeners gives you an AI of 1 million for example. So does 10 plays on a station with 100K audience
    and so on.

  • aprilfoolish

    What does “AI” mean in this context?

    I think it is how many people the song is exposed to potentially.

    ETA I think others can explain it better, lol.

  • Landmd

    I wonder how much the Amazon MP3 deal contributed. Amazon reported it went up over 4000% in Movers & Shakers in MP3 Albums, not sure what that could mean in sales.

    This is what it says at the bottom of the M&S list at Amazon:

    The Movers & Shakers index identifies, by category, the biggest gainers in sales rank at Amazon.com in the past 24 hours. For example, suppose a music item has a sales rank of 10 today, but was ranked as low as 30 yesterday, its Movers & Shakers increase would be 200 percent.

  • springboard

    One play on a station with 1 million listeners gives you an AI of 1 million for example.

    And the audience impression for 1 play depends on the station and the time of the day.

    About Amazon mp3 album market share, here’s an article about it.
    http://crenk.com/amazon-trying-to-close-music-market-share-gap-with-daily-deals/

  • larc

    Brian’s idea about making Idol studio track sales on iTunes public is a good one. It could certainly create some added excitement for us. But my guess is it won’t happen. Idol obviously hides those numbers during the season to keep everybody from knowing how contestants are selling in comparison to each other. Knowing the studio track sales numbers would probably be the next best thing to actually having voting tallies each week.

  • tinawina

    Wow, go Crystal! I thought she’d plunge this week, and she just hangs in there. Now she should have 2 good weeks ahead of her with Idol’s return.

    Making Idol track sales public is an interesting idea, but I have no idea what that would do the competition. I think TPTB are right to worry that it would create a stink of loserdom around some contestants too early.

  • sr4mjc

    Making Idol track sales public is an interesting idea, but I have no idea what that would do the competition. I think TPTB are right to worry that it would create a stink of loserdom around some contestants too early.

    IA. As much fun as it would be for us, I can’t imagine them letting them leak. If they are pushing sales during the season, maybe! It would create competition.

  • Valentin432

    I’m really not in favor of letting the itunes track chart during the season, it would really point the frontrunners and make the race less suspensfull.
    OTOH, totally in favor of releasing every information, votes and track sales, after the season is finished.

  • aramil

    Post-Christmas weeks 3 and 4: Is there a sales bump when new season begins?

    The answer to this question is yes, if we look at the AI historical sales. Below are the weekly sales data of idol albums that sold 100K+ and released at the end of the year (end Oct-Dec). The idol season started during the third week in 2009-2010 and during the fourth week in 2004-2008 and 2011, so we will look at both weeks. All the sales occurred during the “idol week” (the week when the idol season started) are denoted with (*) in the chart below.

    Week 3: The average percent change in sales for this week of January is negative (-8 percent), but it highly varies depending on the timing of the “idol week”. When week#3 was an “idol week” in 2009-2010, the sales change was positive= +13 percent, on average. However, the percent change was negative in 2004-2008, when week#3 was just a regular pre-season week, with -16 average percent drop and ranging from 0 to -41%. Therefore, since week#3 was not an “idol week” in 2011, having drop in sales during last week (ending 1/16/11) would be within a typical range for AI albums.

    Week 4: The album sales start improving during this week of January, and overall they are positive for idols (+8 percent). However, similar to week#3, the sale increase is again more significant during the “idol week” compared to the “alternative week”. Thus, we may see an increase in sales for both Crystal and Lee during this on-going week.

    Caveat: During these two weeks, there were three special cases of weekly sales jumping by almost 60% after key TV appearances: Adam Lambert (week#4, +60%, Oprah), David Cook (week#3, +58%, Jimmy Kimmel live), and Kellie Pickler (week#4, +64%, 2-day co-hosting of “The View”). While we cannot attribute the whole sale increase to these TV events, they may considerably influence the averages. So I will report the average numbers with and without these special cases.

    Overall (both weeks combined).
    Now we will combine all observations from both weeks and compare sales from “idol week”(*) vs. “alternative week”:

    With special cases, the ratio of sales growth is +11 percent (idol week) vs. -11 percent (alternative week)
    Without special cases, the ratio is +5 percent (idol week) vs. -15 percent (alternative week).

    5-11 percent increase may not seem like a big increase in sales; however compared to the alternative week, the “idol week” performed better, and the difference between the two weeks is statistically significant (regardless of the season, the volume of sales, and the date of album release)

    Notes:
    – Even when the sale change during the idol week was negative in a few rare cases (e.g., Carrie, Blake), it was still much smaller than the drop during the other week; this could still be considered as a “bump” in the sense that season opening may have moderated the fall in sales.
    – In 2005 and 2008-2010, the winners of previous seasons got a higher bump during the “idol week” (this was not the case in 2006-2007).

    Now are the numbers.

    Artist/title; weeks since release; sales in week 3 (BB chart in week 3); sales % change week#3->week#4; change in BB chart week#3-> week#4

    * denotes “idol week” (the start of the season)

    Ruben “Soulful” 6 wks 63.0K(8) 0% -> 6%* 0 -> +3*
    Clay “MCWL” 9 wks off(off)
    Ruben “I Need An Angel” 8 wks 9.1K(109) -12% -> 1%* +2 -> +10*
    Fantasia “Free Yourself” 8 wks 34.4K(26) -14% -> 19%* -1 -> +11*
    Kelly “Breakaway” 7 wks 60.3K(6) -10% -> 1%* +4 -> 0*
    Diana “Blue Skies” 6 wks off(off)
    Carrie “Some Hearts” 9 wks 73.2K(4) -10% -> 1%* +1 -> -3*
    Bo Bice “The Real Thing” 5 wks 17.4K(46) -15% -> 4%* +6 -> +2*
    Kellie Pickler “STG” 11 wks 8.8K(83) -17% -> 64%* 0 -> +32*
    “Daughtry” 8 wks 50.4K(4) -10% -> 30%* -1 -> +3*
    “Taylor Hicks” 5 wks 13.9K(53) 0% -> 7%* +13 -> +3*
    “Fantasia” 5 wks 11.1K(68) -41% -> 6%* -21 -> +2*
    Carrie “Carnival Ride” 12 wks 21.6K(21) -28% -> -11%* -2 -> -3*
    “Jordin Sparks” 8 wks 12.4K(51) -30% -> 1%* -7 -> +3*
    Blake Lewis “ADD” 6 wks 5.8K(111) -36% -> -7%* -13 -> -7*
    “David Archuleta” 10 wks 8.9K(53) 6%* -> 7% +9* -> +1
    “David Cook” 9 wks 30.6K(10) 58%* -> -20% +8* -> -4
    Carrie “Play On” 11 wks 21.8K(16) -2%* -> -18% +2* -> -8
    “Kris Allen” 9 wks 6.1K(84) 13%* -> -14% +14* -> -17
    Adam Lambert “FYE” 8 wks 12.3K(35) 9%* -> 60% +5* -> +14
    Allison “Just Like You” 7 wks 2.3K(off) -6%* -> off off* -> off
    Lee DeWyze “Live It Up” 9 wks 3.6K(122) 3% -> na* +25 -> na*
    Crystal “FD” 5 wks 7.1 K(54) -24% -> na* -7 -> na*
    Average: all -8% -> 8%
    Average: non-idol week -16% -> 3%
    Average: idol week 13% -> 9%

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    I’m all for releasing track sales during or at least after the season. That way we could at least know who will get preferential treatment post-season.

  • Kirsten

    Compared to the audience impression for AAA, I think that it is quite good. The #1 on AAA has a 2 mil AI compared to 26 on HAC, 40 on Country and 85 on Top 40.

    Yep. That’s what I meant.

    It’s a relatively small format, but a higher ratio of its listeners seem to purchase CDs so it gets the results of a Medium sized format (or the results of a medium hit on the large charts). Each audience impression is more generally more likely to result in sales.

  • Miss Blue

    It’s a relatively small format, but a higher ratio of its listeners seem to purchase CDs so it gets the results of a Medium sized format (or the results of a medium hit on the large charts).

    Another thing I’ve noticed as I’m one of that crowd of listeners is that we buy albums, rather than singles. That has to boost the profit margin, I would think. And to me, it completely explains why FD as a single isn’t zooming up the charts – her typical listener is buying the album instead of just downloading a single.

  • Kirsten

    Another thing I’ve noticed as I’m one of that crowd of listeners is that we buy albums, rather than singles.

    Yep. AAA doesn’t result in a lot of single sales. The fans of that format tend to buy the album. And you are right, it does generate a higher profit margin.

    I’m not saying you don’t want a hit on Pop (the top song on that format is getting 84.048M audience impressions this week), I’m just saying that the AAA can’t be dismissed as being a tiny chart. It punches above its weight.

  • EmmaCT

    Interesting re AI and revealing weekly sales. When the numbers came out for S8, I remember the surprise that Kris Allen had consistently high weekly download sales prior to weeks 5 – 2, despite the lack of judges “support.” Maybe they can release the iTunes numbers without the comments, however, to avoid in-show fan warring – just let the number speak for themselves?

  • revolution

    To me AAA is Album Oriented Rock. I know its a spin off but when I see who they play, its the same feel. the playlists are not tight so spins are much lower.

    The bigger AAA have playlists, but the smaller are almost free form. Many college and public radio stations are AAA and the DJ has complete control of everything including type of music. The Tampa AAA plays bluegrass overnight, and in the morning, singer/songwriters.

  • CindyM

    Interesting re AI and revealing weekly sales. When the numbers came out for S8, I remember the surprise that Kris Allen had consistently high weekly download sales prior to weeks 5 – 2, despite the lack of judges “support.” Maybe they can release the iTunes numbers without the comments, however, to avoid in-show fan warring – just let the number speak for themselves?

    The in-season sales during Season 8 have never been released. We did get popularity bars once, though. Adam had 6 of the top 10, Kris 3 and Danny had one.
    http://m.nypost.com/;s=IvREykAo183VywB0ppThJ05/p/entertainment/tv/item_SeyA2Jt8kUdhaxrhuyc3eO

  • sr4mjc

    The Tampa AAA plays bluegrass overnight, and in the morning, singer/songwriters.

    Which station is Tampa’s AAA?

  • Trina

    While I think winner and runner-up get increases, along with the special cases noted above, I think the extent of pimpage you get in the premiere episode plays a big part in how much of a boost you get. IIRC David and Chris D. had parts of their music played with like a mini montage. Can’t remember if Taylor or Jordin got mentions.. Would be nice if Lee gets a little of SS played.

    Even if they didn’t reveal weekly totals, I’d settle for weekly popularity bars like we got in season 7. At least it gave you a good idea which things were going.

  • http://emuisemo.pbworks.com eilonwy

    Has anyone ever seen sources of real numbers for the frequency with which listeners to different radio formats buy albums? The best I can do is (Nielsen Soundscan by album genre) / (Arbitron cume by radio genre), using some guesswork on how to make the genres match, and while my results match popular beliefs, I’m not terribly confident about the actual numbers I’m coming up with here.

    aramil, if you ever want a home for your nifty weekly analyses of sales, I would be delighted to provide it. Just click here and ask for permission to edit in that workspace. (Not trying to steal your posters, MJ — this would provide a stable URL where additional detail could be linked from aramil’s terrific posts here each week.)

  • mmb

    As much as I would love to see iTunes sales info or popularity bars during the season I really don’t see how they could do it without really destroying the sense if competition. Those with low sales will tend to immediately be dismissed by the audience etc and the contestants themselves may be more likely the throw in the towel. On the other hand, maybe tptb want the audience to quickly coalesce around one performer that they can turn into their superstar and point to all the downloads they are selling during the season. In any event, I see no harm whatsoever in releasing the sales figures for individual contestants after they are off the show or at the conclusion of the competition. What’s the big secret?

  • IndyMuse

    Keep in mind, the Cook music used in the montage was not his single, but a pre-Idol song he wrote solo. I imagine it could help either Lee or Crystal to have something of theirs played, but I wonder if TPTB are so determined to diss the last few seasons that they won’t. Will they continue the diss into the season, or will they highlight their past? Such mixed signals, between the great promos that honor them and the sound bites that diss them. They are really schizophrenic.

  • IndyMuse

    Mmb, I’ve never understood that, either. I’m dying to this day to know how the people from season 7 on sold during their seasons. I would think there would be some platinum (maybe multi-platinum) and gold certifications in order. Why withhold the honor? By withholding this, it give Glee a ton of buzz that I bet Idol could enjoy. It might even be a selling point when X-Factor arrives, if they would finally at least release the older season sales figures to show off their successes.

  • springboard

    It would be awkward if the voting wasn’t in line with the season download numbers.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    Mmb, I’ve never understood that, either. I’m dying to this day to know how the people from season 7 on sold during their seasons. I would think there would be some platinum (maybe multi-platinum) and gold certifications in order. Why withhold the honor? By withholding this, it give Glee a ton of buzz that I bet Idol could enjoy. It might even be a selling point when X-Factor arrives, if they would finally at least release the older season sales figures to show off their successes.

    I wonder, did anyone ever try to send a kind letter to 19 and ask about those sales during seasons 7, 8 and 9?

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    Digital Songs – Other debuts: @AvrilLavigne’s What the Hell #6 (163,000) | @KanyeWest and Jay-Z’s H*A*M #10 (125,000).

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  • MrDuffin

    Yay Crystal…..way to go!

  • Mary102

    Brian’s idea about making Idol studio track sales on iTunes public is a good one. It could certainly create some added excitement for us. But my guess is it won’t happen. Idol obviously hides those numbers during the season to keep everybody from knowing how contestants are selling in comparison to each other. Knowing the studio track sales numbers would probably be the next best thing to actually having voting tallies each week.

    Yeah, I personally don’t think it’s a good idea to have the itunes sales or ranks released during the season. It really would potentially completely obliterate the competition aspect of the show.

    I would, however, love to have all those weekly totals for contestants released AFTER the season is over, especially since we’re always fighting over those numbers, lol.

  • Mary102

    It’s not just Spears’ best sales week for a digital song, but also the largest debut for a woman as a lead artist in the US.

    I may have something wrong here, but didn’t Tik Tok have over 600K as its download sales right after Xmas last year?

  • Trina

    So Britney should have that #1 debut right?? 411,000! I’m so glad she beat Taylor Swift’s numbers.
    Those are great numbers for Avril too considering the song was being given away for free for a few days.

    Someone more familiar with the charts can weigh in but I THINK TikTok’s numbers weren’t first week sales/debut numbers.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    In any event, I see no harm whatsoever in releasing the sales figures for individual contestants after they are off the show or at the conclusion of the competition. What’s the big secret?

    I can understand why AI wouldn’t want to release singles iTunes sales for AI contestants during the competition, but I’m in favor of releasing those sales figures after the show. It’s always been irritating that those sales haven’t been released, and I think that the total single sales during the season plus after the show would give a more accurate view of the contestants’ popularity and commercial appeal/potential (more than vote totals).

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    I may have something wrong here, but didn’t Tik Tok have over 600K as its download sales right after Xmas last year?

    Yeah, Tik Tok did sell over 600K week after Christmas last Year. But the song was released to iTunes months earlier, I think in August 2009.

  • sr4mjc

    I’m surprised by Avril’s numbers too, it must be casual radio listeners buying. Her fanbase would have gotten the initial free download.

  • Eileen99

    Hot Digital Songs: #2 @BrunoMars, Grenade 219,000 (2,555,000)

    WOW. That didn’t take long to get to 2.5 million, did it?

    As much as I’d love to see the sales downloads during the season, don’t think it’s going to happen. There’s too much money involved – if viewers think the competition has already been decided based on download sales, or if their favorite isn’t getting much support, that’s going to diminish the audience as discouraged fans stop watching & voting, thereby reducing ratings & advertising rates, text votes cast (which is money to the sponsor), and on & on. Who’s going to vote like a beast if they think their favorite is already out? Just not going to happen. I would, however, *love* to see those numbers released after the season.

    I will attempt to forgo the Disclaimer.

    Hee. Can we make it through the day?

  • Elliegrll

    Mmb, I’ve never understood that, either. I’m dying to this day to know how the people from season 7 on sold during their seasons. I would think there would be some platinum (maybe multi-platinum) and gold certifications in order.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if AI viewers didn’t buy a lot of singles during the season. I think being willing to part with money is something that people are going to hold off on until they feel really connected to a contestant, and until something huge happens, like the finale.

  • AllenTX

    If they release the sales info even right after the show, what if a loser way oversold the winner? would it further invalidate the voting and the show itself? I’d love it tho, more drama, more fanwar, and more entertaining.

  • Oksana2000

    Kirsten, this is latest update from Brian. You may want to incorporate these numbers in your thread:

    Clay Aiken
    “Measure of a Man” (2,785,000 total)
    “Merry Christmas With Love (1,375,000 total)
    “On My Way” (165,000 total)
    “A Thousand Different Ways” (531,000)

    Kris Allen
    “Kris Allen” (324,000)

    Katharine McPhee
    “Katharine McPhee” (381,000 total)
    “Christmas Is the Time to Say I Love You” (23,000 total)
    “Unbroken” (45,000 total)

    Jennifer Hudson
    “Jennifer Hudson” (1,000 weekly/825,000 total)

    Adam Lambert
    “For Your Entertainment” (2,000 weekly/ 787,000 total)

  • mmb

    Who is buying that BEPs monstrosity of a song. Easily their worst song ever ( and that’s saying something). I just don’t get it!!!!

  • BootStar

    What do you think? It would certainly create some buzz and the fans would have a new venue to compete in (buying songs, not just because they want them, but to also show their support (read: convince everybody that their Idol is the one that should win)), but it might make the race look like it’s over before it really even gets started. I certainly would like to see those numbers.

    I’ve been suggesting the same for years, most recently in one of Brian’s threads at USA Today. The response was NOT positive!

    What ‘Idol’ needs to do in Season 10: Revive its commercial clout

  • sr4mjc

    Who is buying that BEPs monstrosity of a song. Easily their worst song ever ( and that’s saying something). I just don’t get it!!!!

    I don’t either, it’s truly awful.

  • BootStar

    AAA may be a small market, but there is a lot of crossover between college radio, public radio and NPR. Even the Hollywood Reporter (thank you, Shirley Haperin!) has picked up on NPR’s influence on music sales. Crystal has gotten a LOT of good coverage on public radio. I’d bet money that’s why she’s been holding her own. Good for her!

    NPR: Music Sales’ Surprising New Secret Weapon

  • tierbee

    Hot Digital Songs: #2 @BrunoMars, Grenade 219,000 (2,555,000)

    Wow, Bruno Mars! That song is pretty fantastic, though. Can’t get it out of my head.

  • Buffynut

    I’ve been suggesting the same for years, most recently in one of Brian’s threads at USA Today. The response was NOT positive!

    What ‘Idol’ needs to do in Season 10: Revive its commercial clout

    AI will never be able to compete with Glee’s numbers if they don’t allow the singles to be on the normal i-Tunes chart. Success breeds success and when people see a song in the Top 10, on i-Tunes, they download it. It generates more sales. But maybe Idol doesn’t actually care about those sales???

  • Dakota01

    Wow, Bruno Mars! That song is pretty fantastic, though. Can’t get it out of my head.

    Great song! It’s stuck in my head too.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja
  • BootStar

    AI will never be able to compete with Glee’s numbers if they don’t allow the singles to be on the normal i-Tunes chart. Success breeds success and when people see a song in the Top 10, on i-Tunes, they download it. It generates more sales.

    That was my argument exactly! THINK OF ALL THE LOST SALES! (Not to mention the press you get with those sales.)

    But maybe Idol doesn’t actually care about those sales???

    I’m guessing it’s more that they’re REALLY STUPID! ;-)

    They’d have to release the songs via their website or Amazon too. Not everybody has iTunes. Glee sells their stuff on Amazon, don’t they?

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    They’d have to release the songs via their website or Amazon too. Not everybody has iTunes. Glee sells their stuff on Amazon, don’t they?

    Isn’t iTunes one of the Idol sponsors or partners. It’s exclusive deal.

  • springboard

    Brian has added details to the album sales numbers, and it shows that LIU had a 39% increase in downloads, so it is likely that the Amazon sales was a major reason for the rise.
    Lee DeWyze, Live It Up (4,000, +3%, 109,000/2,000 digital, +39%, 25,000 digital total) (#122 BB200)

  • mmb

    FYI. Those additional numbers from Brian are last weeks numbers. They do not include the past week

  • mmb

    Love grenade!!!!! So much better than just the way you are IMO ( I thought jtwya was boring and did not like the melody).

  • sma11ie

    I wouldn’t be surprised if AI viewers didn’t buy a lot of singles during the season. I think being willing to part with money is something that people are going to hold off on until they feel really connected to a contestant, and until something huge happens, like the finale.

    We had leaks in S7 and S8 that said otherwise. Songs were holding their own and doing in the overall iTunes chart mid-season for both S7 and S8. In S7, we even saw a few of Cook’s Idol songs hit number 1 on iTunes’ *overall* chart and stay there for a while (Billie Jean, Always Be My Baby, and Don’t Wanna Miss a Thing). So yeah, singles sold during the season, at least in S7 and S8.

  • Chicagolaw

    I have to think that the bulk of downloads during Idol happen immediately after the performance, much like Glee. I always downloaded as soon as I could after a performance I loved–and I agree with smallie that the “leaks” we got seemed to reinforce this idea. The audience connects with contestants fairly quickly on this show; by at least top 5 people have their favorites. I am dying to know what songs like Billie Jean and Mad World sold.

    I do realize that making this info public could essentially kill the competition aspect of the show.

  • Elliegrll

    We had leaks in S7 and S8 that said otherwise.

    In season 8 we had a leak of popularity bars, but that didn’t show how much the songs were selling, or how much they were selling in comparison to other songs on the itunes chart, so that we could estimate the actual number of charts that were being sold. Someone could have just sold 100 copies that week, and the popularity bar would have been huge, if it was being compared to a song that sold 50 copies. I’m sure that the numbers are higher than 100 and 50, but I just don’t think it’s anywhere near Gold or Platinum status as someone indicated. The numbers for S7 have more meaning, but even then, the popularity bars don’t indicate numbers for a seven day period of time, the time period that they are showing is very short, I think someone just posted a link for Amazon, where they state that their rankings are based on a 24 hour period, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Itunes uses the same measurement.

  • Valentin432

    ‘Idol’ track sales: Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood, Jason Castro

    Jason Aldean/Kelly Clarkson, Don’t You Wanna Stay (55,000, +3%, 432,000 total)
    Carrie Underwood, Mama’s Song (14,000, -18%, 323,000)
    Carrie Underwood, Undo It (8,000, -25%, 991,000)
    Carrie Underwood, Cowboy Casanova (6,000, -14%, 1.569 million)
    Carrie Underwood, Before He Cheats (5,000, -12%, 3.144 million)
    Carrie Underwood, Temporary Home (5,000, -18%, 650,000)
    Carrie Underwood, There’s a Place for Us (5,000, -19%, 77,000)
    Jason Castro, You Are (2,000, +10%, 13,000)
    Jason Castro, Hallelujah [Album Version] (1,000, -19%, 55,000)

  • CindyM

    I thought Itunes popularity bars WERE based on what they’re selling compared to other songs. That’s how you’re able to track on top 10 especially when one song is close to overtaking the other. I would bet that Idol track sales closely follow Glee sales in that the majority of the sales are immediately after the show.

  • mmb

    Iirc the s8 leaks showed the popularity bars as compared to other non idol tunes on the iTunes chart, not just in comparison to other idols. I think some idol fans or media then took those bars and made their own idol chart. But I specifically remember seeing a leak with nonidol songs

    And I agree that they probably sell a butt load of singles the day after the idol performance. It wouldn’t surprise me if popular performances like abmb, mad world or heartless hit number one on iTunes the next day

  • Mel1

    I thought Itunes popularity bars WERE based on what they’re selling compared to other songs. That’s how you’re able to track on top 10 especially when one song is close to overtaking the other. I would bet that Idol track sales closely follow Glee sales in that the majority of the sales are immediately after the show.

    They do. Adam had all six of his songs shown for S8 top ten songs sold, and Mad World was at #1 and had lots of popularity bars in the second week. That meant it was still selling big even after the first week of his performance. I think MW was listed after one of Jesse McCartney’s songs which was pretty popular.

  • mmb

    Mel1. Thank you!! I knew I wasn’t crazy. For some reason I can still picture that Jesse McCartney song near mad world. And this of course was not immediately after the mw performance. Iirc the leak was at least a week or two later

  • koshka

    bootstar I think I’m with you on this one. Its really easy to say that it would skew the voting, but I don’t think it would. I’m not sure if it matters in the end if it does. Not everyone watches whats on itunes. We know that info that is batted around inside the bubble does usually make it outside to the general public. Rushfield seems to think that the casual viewer has more power than many of us think & the general public, you can bet, isn’t watching what songs spike on itunes. Now I think if the songs were released for itunes ranking many people who are not watchers might check out some of the tunes. This could be a way to attract new viewers. In the least I really think this is something they should consider.

  • Valentin432

    The general public isn’t watching that itunes bar, but you can be certain that any media that covers AI, be it radio, tv, internet or press, will talk about it.

  • BootStar

    I was a very casual viewer of “American Idol” until S7 and didn’t even know there WERE “Idol blogs” until I went to the comments section of the Idol column on TV Guide looking for those iTunes sales figures. (Silly me, I thought they’d release that info!) Somebody there pointed me to Rickey’s scoop on the leaked iTunes sales charts.

    Rickey may be a flake, but he has an awesome archive and is THE only person, to my knowledge, who ever gave the public a glimpse of that super seekrit iTunes info. I don’t know if this link will work, but the screencaps are well worth a peak.

    American Idol 7 — iTunes Top 20 — 03/29/08 — Update

    Here are the latest screencaps of the charts of American Idol on iTunes (as of 4:32 PM). David Cook’s “Billie Jean” is now #2 on the overall iTunes weekly chart, so the American Idol “surge” is over for the week. David Archuleta’s “You’re The Voice” and Michael Johns’ “We are the Champions” have also fallen to #19 and #20 respectively. Interestingly enough, Chris Cornell’s “Billie Jean” is at #65 (without the Idol music).

    For overall sales, David Cook has 3 songs in the Top 5: “Billie Jean” at #1, “Eleanor Rigby” at #3 and “Hello” at #4. “Day Tripper” is at #11. Brooke White is still the best-selling female with “Let It Be” at #2, “Every Breath You take” at #9, “Love is a Battlefield” at #16 and “Here Comes the Sun” at #18.

  • jpfan

    Real numbers of some albums in the Top 20 this week:

    3 SWIFT*TAYLOR SPEAK NOW 35,381 -32 52,028 3,047,740
    4 MARS*BRUNO DOO – WOPS & HOOLIGANS 32,409 -15 38,175 528,346
    8 RIHANNA LOUD 28,096 -16 33,387 813,380
    9 MUMFORD & SONS SIGH NO MORE 25,928 -16 31,005 683,398
    10 WEST*KANYE MY BEAUTIFUL DARK TWISTED FANT 25,249 -24 33,240 940,640
    11 ALDEAN*JASON MY KINDA PARTY 25,209 -14 29,362 741,848
    13 PERRY*KATY TEENAGE DREAM 22,855 -18 28,028 1,047,435
    14 EMINEM RECOVERY 21,376 -36 33,417 3,469,720
    19 P!NK GREATEST HITS SO FAR 17,971 -5 18,832 321,071
    20 GLEE CAST GLEE: THE MUSIC, V4 17,608 2 17,284 440,494

  • koshka

    Valentin432 I think you are right.. but the casual viewer probably doesn’t pay that much attention to what the media says when AI is not in full fledged promo blast. It would make some impact, just not a deep one, at least IMO.

    This is just my story.. I’m sure I’m not entirely alone. I started really watch AI for 7 seasons before diving into the bubble. Much of what rushfield’s book banters around, I had never heard about except for the bigger scandals, like Paula’s alleged affair. Adam is a favorite of mine. I came to MJs mid S8. I had no idea about the guy on guy smooching pictures. LOL Figured he was gay, but hadn’t a clue what everyone was talking about. My husband turned to me this week and said, “Oh, Jlo is a judge now!” and he suffers through access hollywood every night, since it is between prime time tv and national news. Still this was news to him. I’m not sure everyone cares that much.

    ETA: Bootstar.. I get that story. I ended up on Amerianidol.com to find out more about Adam and learned that there were idol blogs. LOL Everyone was so cryptic in mentioning MJs because it was against the rules to post links to the blogs. I had to hunt the blog down on my own.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    But maybe Idol doesn’t actually care about those sales???

    Single sales are a drop in the bucket compared to revenues of the ads from the show, and I don’t think that Idol will do anything to compromise the competition aspect and viewer interest in the show.

  • sma11ie

    the popularity bars don’t indicate numbers for a seven day period of time, the time period that they are showing is very short, I think someone just posted a link for Amazon, where they state that their rankings are based on a 24 hour period, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Itunes uses the same measurement.

    iTunes doesn’t release that information, but there’s been a lot of backed speculation that it is based on a longer than 24-hour period. The most common guess is 3 days, I believe. Maybe someone can find some sources? I remember reading stuff on Pulse, other places a long time ago. iTunes rankings never seemed as volatile to me as Amazon, anyway.

  • Buffynut

    fuzzywuzzy:
    01/19/2011 at 3:30 pm
    Single sales are a drop in the bucket compared to revenues of the ads from the show, and I don’t think that Idol will do anything to compromise the competition aspect and viewer interest in the show.

    I think you’re right. Idol is first and foremost a TV show that gets a lot of money for their ad time. Whatever those singles sell is just icing on the cake.

    IMO, though, I don’t think showing the single sales would alter the voting. I mean, it didn’t in S8. More of Adam’s singles were on that leaked chart (more than double anyone else) but America still voted for the guy they thought should be the American Idol. I think that’s because there are the viewers that only see it as a TV show (the ones who never buy the singles or even the albums) and then there are the viewers that see it as music. Does that make sense?

  • koshka

    IMO, though, I don’t think showing the single sales would alter the voting. I mean, it didn’t in S8. More of Adam’s singles were on that leaked chart (more than double anyone else) but America still voted for the guy they thought should be the American Idol. I think that’s because there are the viewers that only see it as a TV show (the ones who never buy the singles or even the albums) and then there are the viewers that see it as music. Does that make sense?

    THis!

  • Valentin432

    Season 8 had one leak, way before the final.
    Season 7, the popularity bars were available every week and pointed Cook as the most popular contestant by far, and he won in a landslide.

  • tinawina

    Yeah, a leak that pops up on the internet once is different from an ITunes chart anyone can see for weeks and weeks. If ITunes was more obscure, like say Dial Idol, that would be one thing. But ITunes is THE music site and it would be very easy for anyone to tell who is selling and who is not. And the media would totally write and talk about it nonstop. It would even be in Billboard. Just like you don’t have to watch Glee to know they sell a lot of downloads, the same thing would happen with the Idol ITunes songs.

    Even if it didn’t effect the voting, it would likely effect the suspense of the season, since the winner would likely be telegraphed a mile away IMO. Think of a season like Carrie’s where it came out afterwards that she was ahead every single week in the voting? How many people would have lost interest along the way if they thought her win was inevitable, and Bo never stood a chance?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I think that’s because there are the viewers that only see it as a TV show (the ones who never buy the singles or even the albums) and then there are the viewers that see it as music. Does that make sense?

    Yes, but that could be a problem as well and compromise the competition. Suppose that the iTunes downloads don’t reflect the voting totals, and a contestants with a lot of downloads is eliminated before one with fewer downloads? That would cause people to question the legitimacy/validity of the voting, and that would not be good for Idol (the show).

  • girlygirl

    I thought I read that Lee’s, Crystal’s and Adam’s albums had already gotten boosts from having iTunes notices in “what’s hot” section tied into the beginning of S10? I don’t see any boosts here…looks very similar to what I saw at the end of last week

  • girlygirl

    nvm

  • girlygirl

    I just saw this posted by Brian M in the comment section f his column (the comments are his):

    “Somehow, I completely missed an email last week that had updates on several acts you guys have been requesting lately. Better late than never, I always say, so here are those updates now”:

    Clay Aiken
    “Measure of a Man” (2,785,000 total)
    “Merry Christmas With Love (1,375,000 total)
    “On My Way” (165,000 total)
    “A Thousand Different Ways” (531,000)

    Kris Allen
    “Kris Allen” (324,000)

    Katharine McPhee
    “Katharine McPhee” (381,000 total)
    “Christmas Is the Time to Say I Love You” (23,000 total)
    “Unbroken” (45,000 total)

    Jennifer Hudson
    “Jennifer Hudson” (1,000 weekly/825,000 total)

    Adam Lambert
    “For Your Entertainment” (2,000 weekly/ 787,000 total)

    “Keep in mind that these are last week’s totals. However, since most of the albums aren’t selling very much right now, the total figures will have changed little.”

  • luly
  • Elliegrll

    I thought I read that Lee’s, Crystal’s and Adam’s albums had already gotten boosts from having iTunes notices in “what’s hot” section tied into the beginning of S10? I don’t see any boosts here…looks very similar to what I saw at the end of last week

    I think those banners only appeared yesterday, so any boost will be seen next week. I haven’t looked today, but yesterday they all saw increases, but I think all four albums were still out of the top 100, so any increase will be minimal.

  • BootStar

    Suppose that the iTunes downloads don’t reflect the voting totals, and a contestants with a lot of downloads is eliminated before one with fewer downloads? That would cause people to question the legitimacy/validity of the voting, and that would not be good for Idol (the show).

    But how is that any different from what goes on when the winner isn’t the biggest seller after the season ends (e.g., Daughtry)? Controversy seems to drive this show as much as anything, and clearly folks vote for different reasons. Some vote for the “best singer” any given night; others vote for the person they like the most overall and whose music they want to buy. And on and on.

  • tigervixxxen

    Interesting that the Script with a couple big CHR hits under their belt are only predicted in the 37-42k range by HDD.

  • revolution

    I think those banners only appeared yesterday, so any boost will be seen next week. I haven’t looked today, but yesterday they all saw increases, but I think all four albums were still out of the top 100, so any increase will be minimal.

    correct, these are last weeks sales, the itunes boost will show next week…

  • revolution

    IMO, though, I don’t think showing the single sales would alter the voting. I mean, it didn’t in S8. More of Adam’s singles were on that leaked chart (more than double anyone else) but America still voted for the guy they thought should be the American Idol. I think that’s because there are the viewers that only see it as a TV show (the ones who never buy the singles or even the albums) and then there are the viewers that see it as music. Does that make sense?

    Bad example, Adam lost because he was gay. Anyone who doesn’t believe that is in denial.

  • smeggingnuts

    luly:
    01/19/2011 at 6:17 pm
    HDD prediction for next week:
    http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news08382m01

    oh I didn’t know Social D had a new album out….

    I think those banners only appeared yesterday, so any boost will be seen next week. I haven’t looked today, but yesterday they all saw increases, but I think all four albums were still out of the top 100, so any increase will be minimal.

    Yeah the postage stamps have only been up for about 17 hours.

    I have been watching it and all three have seen a nice little ranking increase.
    Lee’s have been pretty steady: LIU has been steady at 170ish all day which is up 60 from yesterday. SS the single version has been the same but the album version has moved up over 100 spots.

    Crystal’s FD (album) has stayed steady but the other version has moved up over 300 spots within the last day. The single hasn’t made it onto the Top 100.

    Adam’s singles have moved up about 100 spots and the Acoustic Live EP has been jumping around a bit but saw a 200 spot increase breifly.

    I expect with Idol tonight and having their CD’s on the front page of iTunes should give them a nice bump tonight and tomorrow.
    And none of them have broken back into the Top 100 Its definatly not going to be alot but hey every sale counts :)

  • lifeisgood

    Bruno Mars’ voice reminds me so much of Michael Jackson’s – I could hear MJ singing several of Mars’ songs.
    I really like his sound.

  • revolution

    sr4mjc:
    01/19/2011 at 10:48 am
    The Tampa AAA plays bluegrass overnight, and in the morning, singer/songwriters.

    Which station is Tampa’s AAA?

    WMNF

  • Elliegrll

    Interesting that the Script with a couple big CHR hits under their belt are only predicted in the 37-42k range by HDD.

    They only have one CHR hit. “The Man Who Can’t Be Moved” didn’t do anything either time that it was released. They are a good example that it takes more than one single to get people to buy an album without checking out all of the songs, but like Bruno Mars is showing, releasing multiple hit singles is the way to become an established artists.

    Bad example, Adam lost because he was gay. Anyone who doesn’t believe that is in denial.

    Was it expensive to poll everyone who voted to find this out? Just kidding. But, this does remind me of what happened on the X-Factor this year, where everyone seemed to think that the boy band were the front runners, and that the only reason the winner won is because he inherited the voters of other contestants, but when the voting totals came out they showed that the teen band never lead during any week. People have their perceptions, and on the internet it is easy to find others who share similar views, but the truth is we don’t have the facts to show who sold more during any season, or why every single voter voted the way that they did.

  • J9BT

    tigervixxxen:
    01/19/2011 at 6:28 pm
    Interesting that the Script with a couple big CHR hits under their belt are only predicted in the 37-42k range by HDD.

    That’s the range Lee sold in for his 1st week, yet articles everywhere were totally bashing him. The Script’s AI’s with their recent hits were quite large, probably over a period of at least a year, so not sure what the problem is here.

  • Elliegrll

    I thought Itunes popularity bars WERE based on what they’re selling compared to other songs. That’s how you’re able to track on top 10 especially when one song is close to overtaking the other. I would bet that Idol track sales closely follow Glee sales in that the majority of the sales are immediately after the show.

    It depends on where you see the bars. If you see it on the artists page, then it’s a comparison of how each song is selling in comparison to the artists other songs, within a certain period of time. For example, if you looked at Kris’ page it might currently show that The Truth is selling more than No Boundaries, but we know that overall the truth didn’ sell more than NB.

    If you look at the top 100 songs list, that is a comparison between songs, but again, it is based on a certain amount of time. A song could race up the chart in one day, but that doesn’t mean that it is selling more than songs around it that have been in those spots for seven days.

  • Tess

    The Script’s AI’s with their recent hits were quite large, probably over a period of at least a year, so not sure what the problem is here.

    It’s January and the worse time for retail everywhere and for everything…especially when the December credit card bills show up. Besides, the Script have established themselves from ground zero….no 15 weeks of performing in front of 20 million people. No one will ever convince me that an AI alum doesn’t have a built-in purchasing advantage from the typical joe blow record.

  • girlygirl

    ah, I thought the iTunes banners had been up longer than that. ok, thanks! — well I will be keeping an eye on iTunes the next couple days to see how the S10 premiere affects them

  • revolution
  • smeggingnuts

    girlygirl:
    01/19/2011 at 7:29 pm
    ah, I thought the iTunes banners had been up longer than that. ok, thanks! — well I will be keeping an eye on iTunes the next couple days to see how the S10 premiere affects them

    I jotted down the rankings from itunes 30mins before idol started..hehe I am interested to see who gets a bump if any

  • cwm

    Adam’s WWFM is apparently up to #7 in France this week. :-)

    http://musique.premiere.fr/TOP-50

  • mozart4898

    revolution:
    01/19/2011 at 7:31 pm
    Crystal just may be making headway into country.

    I’m sure there’s a precedent for it with other artists and that Crystal isn’t the first, so don’t put words in my mouth here and say I’m assuming she’s doing something no one else ever has, lol. But anyways…how common is it for someone to attempt to get play on 3 different formats like country, AAA, and HAC? I can see country, HAC, and CHR happening all the time, but it seems that AAA is a pretty different animal.

    I see one of two things here. Either Jive really has NO idea what to do with Crystal and it’s really mostly Gina (maybe a little bit Crystal herself) doing the work here, or they’ve got some sort of really interesting plan (maybe promoting her as a folk rock/country artist to AAA/country and hoping to get some HAC crossover). It’ll be VERY intriguing to see what they try to push as a 2nd single…assuming they actually try one which I would think they would. Hold On would be logical on one hand since they wanted it in the first place but having abandoned it, I don’t know that they’d go back to it. Riding with the Radio, Holy Toledo, Lonely, and On the Run all seem to have a sound that I would think would be at least somewhat radio friendly to me, although if they’re planning to try to make inroads to country I think Lonely wouldn’t fit (nor would Hold On really). I’m just really not sure what they’re thinking…if they’re thinking anything at all. They may just be throwing things at the wall to see if something sticks, lol.

  • steph6449

    Crystal just may be making headway into country.

    Believe that site that had her audition video up along with quite a few others is the same person who operates a country music-related twitter account out of the midwest. He seems to like Crystal, and had Crystal fans lobbying him on twitter to support her.

    So good as far as it goes, but I’m not sure it represents a big breakthrough. Probably will be a better idea once we see what she’ll be doing on the Nashville trip and in its aftermath.

    Riding with the Radio, Holy Toledo, Lonely, and On the Run all seem to have a sound that I would think would be at least somewhat radio friendly to me,

    Is Lonely the song with the strange whistling at the beginning, or am I thinking of the wrong one? Maybe that could be edited out for radio :? Otherwise I’m not sure it is that radio-friendly… :shock:

  • CindyM

    If you look at the top 100 songs list, that is a comparison between songs, but again, it is based on a certain amount of time.

    Right, I know that. The leak of popularity bars during Season 8 was a comparison between idol and non-idol songs. I monitor the Itunes charts daily, while there are changes in rankings, they are not as dramatic as Amazon. I think Itunes bases their rankings on a longer period of time, a couple of days, rather than Amazon’s hourly updates.

  • springboard

    If you look at the top 100 songs list, that is a comparison between songs, but again, it is based on a certain amount of time.

    I also monitor ITunes, and I agree, but also agree with CindyM. In addition, the average ITunes position for a week is very close to the BB download chart, except for the songs that have several versions, but there are not many.

    From season 7 leaks, it was clear to me that some of Cook’s songs, and possibly a few others, spent a long time at #1, probably long enough to warrant a #1 on the download charts.

    We had fewer leaks in season 8, but it seems that some songs also charted quite high.

  • tripp_ncwy

    moved