Idol Headlines for11/28/12 – The Evening Edition

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Fox Chief Compares Angus T. Jones’ Comments to Nicki Minaj’s Latest ‘Idol’ Feud – “It’s part of the world we live in,” said Reilly, drawing comparison to American Idol judge Nicki Minaj’s public feud with series alum Steven Tyler. “You want stars to represent themselves, but sometimes they freestyle a little bit.” In the case of American Idol, Reilly said he thinks news is ultimately “going to be good for [the network],” because of the publicity it generates and the interest it raises in the new season that starts in January. “There’s a point where it can get out of control,” he added, turning back to Two and a Half Men. “[That] is where the PR people come in and tell Angus to apologize in a statement.” Peter Benedek, co-founder of the UTA talent agency, piped in that he would bet it is Jones’ agent who is suffering the most from this, calling him “the most tortured individual of all.” – Read more at The Hollywood Reporter

Phillip Phillips Plans Headlining Tour Following Moon’s Big Debut – So with his debut album firmly entrenched in the Top 10, and a hit single under his belt, Phillips is gearing up for the next phase of his career: His first headlining tour … but, as you’d probably expect, he’s approaching it in much the same way he approaches everything else: with humility. “The tour is in the works, it’s going to happen early next year, like around February or so … we’re still planning it out, I think we’re going to keep it just me and the band, doing something like that,” he said. “It’s going to be a lot of fun and, y’know, I’m just hoping people will want to come out to it.” – Read more at MTV

‘American Idol’ finalist Matt Giraud performs for Canton music students – One-time “American Idol” finalist Matt Giraud visited Salem High School in Canton today to perform for music students and talk about his career. Giraud, who grew up in Ypsilanti, came up short in 2009 against the likes of Kris Allen and Adam Lambert, but has parlayed his success on the show into a sturdy recording career. He shared some inspiring words with students, gave musical tips, signed autographs and played original music and cover tunes. Giraud will return Feb. 13 to give a fund-raising concert for the school’s performing arts programs. – Read more at Freep.com

Have yourself a Claymate Christmas - Although he may have finished second in “American Idol’s” season two finals and lost out to Arsenio Hall to take the two spot again in the last installment of “The Celebrity Apprentice,” to millions of Claymates, recoding star Clay Aiken will always be No. 1 in their hearts. “I think I am destined for second place forever, it’s just the way my life goes,” Aiken jokes. “I’m glad I could provide some humor and fodder for people.” “The show seems like such a long time ago now. It’s been 10 years and I find as I get older, I can remember less and less,” Aiken says. “It was an amazing experience and I am so thankful for what it has brought.” – Read more at The Hour.com

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  • Incipit

    Since Idol, has Matt recorded and released a CD that I am not aware of?

    Nope, not to my knowledge, fuzzywuzzy. On CDBaby, he has two Pre-Idol albums, 2003 – Perspective and 2006 – Mind, Body and Soul – that’s all I know of.  

    Other than the 2010 single with  jazz vocalist Anna Wilson, who he collaborated with on … “You Don’t Know Me,” which reached No. 1 on the iTunes jazz songs charts –  the last I read, he was talking about an EP – and he did some of his songs from it at appearances  - “… “Miss You Tonight” and and “4 a.m.,” tunes he worked on in Nashville with Grammy winner Drew Ramsey. Giraud, who does not have a record deal, said “American Idol” management helped connect him with Ramsey. There is no release date for Giraud’s EP, but he said he’s in no hurry.” (From MichiganLive, 4/15/10)

    IDK if there is more recent news about his plans, that’s what I found.

  • jpfan2

    “ don’t know why repeat customers would be less of an “issue” for P2 than it is for any other idol alum or any other artist for that matter.”

    Yes all artists have repeat fans. But Idol is famous for generating fans that are very OTT, go to the muliple shows, “gift” music and then vanish when the next season of Idol comes around. That leads to the “disastrous” second album era.

    The first thing anyone from Idol needs to do is to get as many new fans as possible. The less repeaters at shows the better!

  • http://twitter.com/LexieONeill Lexie O’Neill

     http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/2012/11/29/1734079/

    Snippets and a little clip of Scotty talking about being at Rockefeller Center:))

  • http://twitter.com/leilamaurizia2 leilamaurizia

    I know Carrie opened for several others before doing her own tour…

    Carrie actually did her own headlining tour while simultaneously opening for Brad Paisley.  It was a pretty grueling schedule because she would fit in her dates between Brad’s.  Look at these 4-day runs:

    From October 19-22, 2006:

    Brad Paisley, Carrie Underwood, Jake Owen Peoria Civic Center Peoria,
    Ill. Oct. 19, 2006 $247,622 5,733 / 7,000 1 / 0 $44.50,
    $23.50 Live Nation
    Brad Paisley, Carrie Underwood, Jake Owen
    Allen County War Memorial Coliseum Fort Wayne, Ind. Oct. 20, 2006
    $278,659 6,262 / 7,500 1 / 0 $44.50 Live Nation
    Brad
    Paisley, Carrie Underwood, Jake Owen Show Me Center Cape Girardeau, Mo.
    Oct. 21, 2006 $236,715 5,479 / 5,479 1 / 1 $44.75, $34.75
    Live Nation
    Carrie Underwood, Steve Azar Grand Palace
    Branson, Mo. Oct. 22, 2006 $157,334 3,477 / 3,477 1 / 1
    $45.25 Outback Concerts

    From December 7-10, 2006:

    Brad Paisley, Carrie Underwood, Jake Owen Mizzou ArenaColumbia, Mo.Dec.
    7, 2006$272,429 6,122 / 7,0001 / 0$44.75 Live
    Nation
    Brad Paisley, Carrie Underwood, Jake Owen Allstate
    ArenaRosemont, Ill.Dec. 8, 2006$487,943 10,965 / 10,9651 /
    1$44.75 Live Nation
    Carrie Underwood, Rockie Lynne Municipal
    AuditoriumCharleston, W. Va.Dec. 9, 2006$132,483 3,354 /
    3,3541 / 1$39.50 Outback Concerts
    Carrie Underwood, Rockie
    Lynne Salem Civic CenterSalem, Va.Dec. 10, 2006$185,155
    4,658 / 4,6581 / 1$39.75 Outback Concerts

  • Incipit

    All artists have (and hope to have) fans that will come to multiple shows.  I disagree that this is a problem…a small percentage of the crowd at any given venue anyway 

    mmb, I have to agree with you. There is no anomaly. Without even knowing statistically what the audience percentages are between return visitors and new audience at each venue – IMO, this is not even a blip on the radar, and for some unknown reason, has been massively overstated as a problem inside the Bubble. 

    What are we talking about, exactly – no one has numbers? Is it 1000 people out of 1500? I highly doubt that. Is someone trying to claim that an average 2/3 of the audience is repeat customers? Show me the numbers. Is it as many as 15 – 30 people out of 1500? So what? 

    If a tiny repeat percentage of the audience is a problem, then it’s a problem for every.single.touring.artist – not just Idol Alumni, as in the examples you have listed…and yet – we never see it framed as a ‘Bad Thing’ for any of them in the mainstream press. 

    Such a Bubble Thing. IMO. Of Course.

  • HermeticallySealed

     I’m sorry, but I don’t buy into the whole “Idols have a bigger problem” idea.  Over the last 30 years I have known dozens of people personally who have followed their favorite (non Idol) band/s around the country; my sister being one of those. She and several of her friends spent an entire summer following Duran Duran around the country.  I have read accounts of hundreds of others for years stating the exact same thing.

    This is hardly a new phenomena, and as MMB stated, many artists are known for having such dedicated fans.  I have seen zero evidence that Idols are somehow more prone than other artists to have repeat show goers.  Merely the unsubstantiated opinions of those within the bubble claiming that it must be true.

    Give me some actual facts to prove this notion, and I’d be happy to change my stance, but I have never seen any such to back it up.  Mere anecdotal comments don’t really carry much weight.

  • DragonFly

    “And I don’t advise a lengthy tour that extends into 2014. Let’s say spring – fall 2013, then get him back in the studio to start working on his sophomore album, which can be ready for release around late spring / early summer 2014.”

    I hope that the key word is “lengthy” for (ONE) tour extending into 2014.  B/C the rest seems exactly what WU & James are doinig & fans seem not real fond of it–meaning fans are uneasy w/NO shows going on for so long.

  • http://twitter.com/CanadianLady2 CanadianLady

    Scotty has been doing roughly the same thing all fall. Plus attending college. Crazy! Nice to be young….

  • http://twitter.com/TarheelShari Sharon S.

    In addition to sharing the doubt expressed by others that “repeat customers” are a special Idol phenomenon/problem, I also tend to believe the fans who are dedicated enough to follow the artist around to multiple shows are considerably less likely to be the ones to drop away and fail to support the second era.  Even if they did, IMO their numbers are small enough that it wouldn’t make a bit of difference.

  • DragonFly

    Maybe 12 nights in a row qualifies as a bit extreme lol, but I think most fans would “gladly” attend multiple shows of their favorites–it’s that distance thing that gets in the way. 

  • justmefornow

    I agree this break from shows with James seems long, but Jeff has been filling in on tour with BLS and just got back in the country, I believe, a couple of days ago. Remember he did have some shows scheduled for Nov. that he had to cancel with Jeff gone.
    We’ll see know if he schedules anything soon, or waits until after the new year.
    IMO, he shouldn’t wait too long.

    (Looks like Jeff had a blast, btw!)

  • standtotheright

    I also tend to believe the fans who are dedicated enough to follow the artist around to multiple shows are considerably less likely to be the ones to drop away and fail to support the second era.

    I think the argument is that a) they might “crowd out” casual fans who would otherwise be buying tickets [probably overstated, since most shows don't sell out] and b) they might “discourage” casual fans from remaining invested by trying to make the show all about them [not necessarily overstated, because I've seen too much evidence that some AI fans think that the shows are an opportunity to have the artist personally notice them from on stage rather than to participate as part of a crowd, and that such behavior turns casual fans off].

    The bigger issue, to be honest, is that I think P2 shouldn’t be headlining at a steady clip because he doesn’t have that much gigging experience relative to some of the other finalists who did tours and he’d do better learning from some other acts. But maybe they’ll mix it up.

  • mmb

    but again, none of this is limited to Idol fans…all of the big name acts have fanclub presales etc that eat up a large portion of tickets…those are the superfans “crowding” out the casual ticket buyers.  Not an Idol issue.  And lots of super fans of other artists want the artists to personally notice them and try to make the show about them — they monopolize the best tickets, take over the first few rows, wear silly outfits.  Again not an Idol issue.  There are a lot of reasons why Idol alums have struggled post debut era….but IMO repeat concert customers are not one of them

  • Lucie Laniel

    Scotty did a lot of of headlining shows, during the time he was touring with Brad. And I might add, a lot of them were SOLD OUT. However, like you say it was in between and around and not just a headlining tour by itself.

    Since the Brad tour has been over ,he has been on his own and doing super, super well. Since it’s been 1 1/2 year since Idol he is gaining a lot of confidence on his shows and interacting extremely well with his Band. 

    I assume this is until he gets on as the first opener with another Big Act and to give him a chance to record his Sophomore album, which is coming sometimes in 2013.

     

  • standtotheright

    And lots of super fans of other artists want the artists to personally notice them and try to make the show about them — they monopolize the best tickets, take over the first few rows, wear silly outfits. Again not an Idol issue.

    I go to a lot of shows (a LOT of shows), and I have seen some superfans showing up in outfits at many of them, which is tolerable (although I’m still very much in the ”don’t be that person” camp when it comes to wearing band gear at the show). But what I haven’t really seen outside of AI-alumni shows is tons of people waving signs in small clubs and theaters to try and get called out from on stage while blocking the view of everyone behind them, or screaming “I love you” so incessantly through banter breaks that I can’t hear what the people on stage are saying.

    Fans of many artists bring signs to arenas (where people can see on the screens anyway) but then put them down. Fans of many artists yell “I love you” and then shut up. In my experience, some AI fans don’t understand those limits because they aren’t used to “regular” show norms, and I do believe that it does discourage some casual fans who do know those norms.

    The ticket thing for big-name acts is a non-issue. Those tickets get sorted on price anyway.

  • DragonFly

    Find myself (always trying anyway) to hold back comments that may go beyond a fan-only support.  Aware of all that’s transpired.  Great for Jeff….his comments surely point to a fantastic time touring) –not so thrilled at that for James what the delay did for him, but then who knows beyond that L.A. show, maybe it did little to disrupt anything.  Just continue to hope someone has a good plan.     

  • irockhard

    A lengthy headlining tour that will take P2 out of the public eye is not going bode well for the sales of his sophomore album, see Cook, Archie and Lambert. Artists these days need to have new music out all the time, and they can’t record quality albums if they’re touring full time.

    And James fans shouldn’t be uneasy just yet. If he doesn’t start touring again by early spring next year by the latest then I’d say it’s time to worry.

  • irockhard

    Full time tours are usually scheduled months in advanced. This what James’ team should be sorting out right now.

  • justmefornow

    I agree. Those Nov. dates were just one offs after Nashville. They need to straighten out the band situation first, IMO. There is probably more recording to do as well.
    Lots to sort out. We’ll see.

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