Idol Headlines for 07/11/11

David Cook is set to perform on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno on Wednesday, July 13. 11:35/10:35c NBC.

A new release for Haley Reinhart?

Check this out at Amazon. Pia Toscano, Scotty McCreery and Lauren Alaina have pages at Amazon too. But we already knew about their upcoming releases…

The American Idol Top 11 perform at the Power Balance Pavillion in Sacramento, CA at 7 pm as part of American Idols Live.

Jennifer Lopez will appear on the Today Show
Pia Toscano will be on the Ryan Seacrest radio show at 8:30 am PDT to debut her new song “This Time”. Listen Live HERE.
Cat Deely appears on The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson 12:35/11:35c CBS

Anwar Robinson performs at the Singers Lounge in New York, NY
Lee DeWyze performs at the House of Blues, Houston TX

Tamyra Gray tweets, “Official closing for@TwistTheMusical 7/24 2pm!!! Get ur tix now! We’ve been sold out every night. Don’t delay!!

The X Factor Seattle Audition Taping 6/29/11 – On The Scene Report

On Wednesday, June 29, 2011, I attended one of six Seattle audition tapings for Simon Cowell’s new singing competition show, “The X Factor.” If you are not familiar with this show, it essentially replaced “Pop Idol” (the original Idol incarnation in the world) in the U.K. Unlike the various Idol shows, including “American Idol,” Simon Cowell has direct control over “The X Factor.” He’s the creator, executive producer and judge. During season 9 of Idol, he made a deal with Fox here in the states that would, besides letting him retire from Idol, bring “The X Facto”r to America and debut in the fall of 2011.

Read more at OMG Wire

An Idol Pays The “Rent”

Many articles have been loaded to this blog that pertain to one particular cast member who has risen above the rest. It is no secret that the cast member who has made the most permanent impact on Cutting Edge Entertainment is our American Idol himself, Justin Guarini. Everyone knows the rough-outline of Justin’s story; he joins the cast of CEE as a just another face wanting to entertain at events, later auditioning for some “unknown” reality TV program and finishes second to another budding superstar, then fades –as most assume- into obscurity. However, it’s never that simple and it’s always more uplifting than assumptions allow.

See the photos at Cutting Edge DJs

“The girls! Erin Andrews, Jordin Sparks, & Kaye Upton… Look out #CelebSoftball”

Stars, pros share fun at All-Star Celebrity Softball Game

At Sunday’s Taco Bell All-Star Legends & Celebrity Softball Game at Chase Field, the crowd went wild for singer Jordin Sparks but greeted fellow pop star Nick Jonas with boos.

As part of the All-Star Game festivities this week in Phoenix, Sunday’s lineup featured A-list celebrities, athletes and MLB legends.

The NL team prevailed, 5-3. The game will air this evening immediately after the Home Run Derby.

Chord Overstreet of “Glee” surprised the crowd with his athletic talent, dramatically diving and catching a fly ball.

Read more at AZ Central

Jordin Sparks – Interview at Softball game

VIA CBS Sports

Chord Overstreet: Celebrity Softball Game!

Chord Overstreet makes a throw during the 2011 Taco Bell All-Star Legends & Celebrity Softball Game held at Chase Field on Sunday (July 10) in Phoenix, Arizona.

The 22-year-old actor tweeted his excitement for the game, saying “gettin ready for mlb allstar weekend in arizona!!!! gonna be a blast!”

Read more at Just Jared

Christina Aguilera: ‘Moves Like Jagger’ Video – FIRST LOOK!

Christina Aguilera rocks out with a shirtless Adam Levine during the video shoot for their song “Moves Like Jagger” on Friday (July 8) in Los Angeles.

The 30-year-old entertainer joined the 32-year-old Maroon 5 frontman for the shoot, which also featured the song’s inspiration, the legendary Mick Jagger, according to Us Weekly.

See the photos at Just Jared

Jedward ‘in talks’ over X Factor comeback

TONE-deaf duo Jedward have been asked to mentor contestants on this year’s X Factor.

Twins John and Edward Grimes, 19, let slip they were “in talks” to help Louis Walsh pick his three acts to sing in the show’s finals.

Speaking on OK!TV, Edward said: “I want to see someone get bigger than the show.”

John added: “Yeah, we need to find a superstar who can rival me and Edward.”

Read more at Mirror.co.uk

  • jdanton2

    looking forward to the debut of Pia’s single with Ryan . you can listen live at KIIS FM here.

    http://www.kiisfm.com/pages/streaming.html

    There are a couple video’s of Tamyra Gray performing at LA Pride back in June of songs she does in her play Twist . the sound quality is not good but she sounds amazing.

    solo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtlR8uE5nEg

    duet with co star

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG-_fHSWTJ8

  • luly

    I really hope that this means that Haley is signed to Interscope.

  • Kirsten

    I really hope that this means that Haley is signed to Interscope.

    I would say that it is a very positive sign. Amazon doesn’t generally create random web pages for mythical CDs (but I’m a fangirl of Haley who wants to see positive signs and maybe they are too ;-)

  • http://www.kellydeanhansen.com MahlerFan

    The image on that amazon page is the EP cover. Her entry for the EP on amazon mysteriously disappeared. This could be nothing and they could just be making the EP available on Amazon again. Who knows?

    ETA: Just checked it out, and the Amazon New Release pages for Scotty and Lauren also use the EP cover images. So I agree with Kirsten, this must be a good sign.

    My guess? Jimmy is going to pull the trigger on the announcement around the upcoming LA tour stop. The bigger question is what this means for James. Does he have such a New Release page as well? There has been speculation (and some circumstantial evidence) that he may have had a deal on the table, but it fell through for whatever reason.

  • Kirsten

    My guess? Jimmy is going to pull the trigger on the announcement around the upcoming LA tour stop.

    I’m not sure. They may have decided to use LA for Pia (wasn’t there some talk originally about her revealing her new single during the NY section of the tour?). Maybe Haley gets NY now? They have certainly successfully leveraged the start of the tour to push Pia so maybe they do have time to use the LA swing for Haley? IDK.

  • http://www.kellydeanhansen.com MahlerFan

    Well, with Pia’s announcement coming before the tour started, there is now some breathing room, and I can’t see any advantage in waiting. If they were going to wait, it would make a lot more sense to announce around her hometown show in Chicago than in NY. We’ll see.

  • Q3

    Based on what Jimmy Iovine said before and during Idol, I got the impression that they were going to be far more aggressive with releasing recordings during the Idol Tour. Seemed like a really smart strategy.

    But they have two finalists who look like they will sign but who are still hanging — Haley and James. I gather both will be signed eventually — hope it is soon.

    But Sony took close to forever to sign Danny Gokey and that worked out. So, in the end, it is probably mostly about who has passionate fans from Idol and who puts out good music.

  • Barometz02

    Danny Gokey’s debut album sold less than Blake Lewis’s, and none of his singles became a hit. The only reason why some people are acting like Danny is successful is because he went the country route.

  • steph6449

    It wasn’t a ginormous monster platinum hit, true. But Danny’s album was successful in getting him a start IMO and is generally referred to as such in country media. It debuted at #4 on the overall BBD chart its first week (#3 country), hit #1 on both overall and country iTunes charts, and was among the top 3 best-selling country debuts last year behind Easton Corbin and The Band Perry. Danny also made several end of year BBD charts for new artists and album sales, was nominated for an industry award, and sold a ton more than many mid-level country acts. My Best Days sold ~65K its first week out, and is somewhere over 200,000 now which is pretty good for a third-placer, or anyone these days when you look at the S9 top two sales results. I don’t follow Blake’s figures, but if he sold more than that good for him.

    Danny’s first two singles went to #22 and #32 on mediabase. Not monster radio hits, but certainly respectable and he did chart both of them in the top 40 of his format. That’s not a pushover to do — I hope Lauren’s single will push eventually into the country top 40, but it’s not showing a lot of signs of big movement at the moment. Danny also had the best-selling AI debut of anyone in 2010.

  • jdanton2

    Interesting article from MTV on upcoming albums and who is mentioned and who is not . from this years group Scotty,Lauren and Pia are but others are not. on past winners Kelly and Kris are but Jordin is not.

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1667008/lil-wayne-kanye-west-jay-z-anticipated-albums.jhtml

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Reminder:

    This thread will not be taken over by arguments about Danny Gokey’s career.

    Just so you know.

  • Q3

    It is possible that Country is now the most competitive genre in music. And it is certainly full of Idol alums.

    I think Scotty has a great shot of being very, very successful.

    I have my doubts about Lauren. So far her sales look good but she seems so young and unprepared to me.

    JMHO

  • Kirsten

    In Season 8, NoBo wasn’t working and after three tour dates, TPTB finally agreed and let Kris have a new song in his set in the Sacramento concert after a day off.

    This year there has been three concerts and a day off before today’s Sacramento concert. Does anybody think that anything needs to be changed and will be changed about this year’s concert?

    I would argue that the start is weak. “Born This Way” just isn’t doing it’s job.

    Dare to compare BTW with the Guys first group number in Everett (BTW vs Animal)

    During BTW, people are ready to cheer, but they remain seated. Unusual for the start of an AI concert (where I have seen females like Jordin and Mandisa get people leaping to their feet to start the concert). During “Animal” the crowd goes completely insane. Granted, that’s after it was primed after a great set by Stefano, but I think they would do that anyway.

    I think the problem is two-fold. First, it’s the song. The “Oh-Oh’s” in Animal are crowd energizing. BTW is kind of preachy and not us much fun to bounce around with. If they are contractually obliged to pimp Gaga’s latest project, why not switch to “Edge of Glory” which is much more fun? If they don’t have to do Gaga, there are a lot better songs for them to work with to get people out of their seats.

    The second problem is something I’ve been harping on for a while and NOW Lauren has driven the point home by getting a third degree sprain. Get the girls out of those heels. Because 4 out of 5 of them are wearing those stupid stilts, they are forced to sing in a line and wiggle. Then, they cautiously make their way down the steps (all but Lauren who bounces down them in her sensible boots) and stand in another line and wiggle. Meanwhile, during Animal, the boys are everywhere having fun, jumping up and down and energizing the crowd.

    Can the stupid shoes. Put the girls in sneakers and something comfortable and send them out on the stage to run around (Lauren can probably still bop around better in crutches and cast than any of them can in those stupid, stupid shoes which are meant only to be worn when one is walking the red carpet and then sitting for 4 hours).

  • Tess

    who is mentioned and who is not

    As far as I can tell the article is pretty accurate mentioning releases that have been mentioned in official press releases during the first part of this year. We have confirmation for Kelly, Adam, Kris, Scotty, Lauren and Pia. We have heard rumor that Kellie and Jordin may release this year…and we have heard Casey and Danny say they have recorded a few songs. We don’t have any concrete evidence that any other season 10 idols are signed…other than Lee saying he is writing Season 9 is quiet…Season 7 has released to noticeably smaller numbers than their debut idols. I think the article is pretty accurate and is relying on facts not idol bubble speculation.

  • halo9125

    This year there has been three concerts and a day off before today’s Sacramento concert. Does anybody think that anything needs to be changed and will be changed about this year’s concert?

    I think they’re going to have enough to deal with given Lauren’s injury for the moment.

    I am concerned what will happen if “This Time” tanks on iTunes, however- although after hearing it about 25 times, it’s really pretty decent, and I have managed to get it stuck in my head.

  • Eileen99

    I really hope that this means that Haley is signed to Interscope.

    Maybe the rumor MJ had a few weeks ago with specific Haley song information will turn out to be true.

    This year there has been three concerts and a day off before today’s Sacramento concert. Does anybody think that anything needs to be changed and will be changed about this year’s concert?

    I think Lauren’s injury gives them a good opportunity to change some things around. They are obviously going to need to make some accommodation for her injury and why not make other tweaks at the same time? If I could have my wish based on seeing the Idol show already, Paul, Jacob, James & Haley all deserve another song based on crowd response, so they could take one song away from Lauren temporarily and permanently from Pia, heh. I’d probably cut Born This Way also, it was the least successful of the group numbers, I thought.

  • Valentin432

    We have confirmation for Kelly, Adam, Kris, Scotty, Lauren and Pia. We have heard rumor that Kellie and Jordin may release this year…and we have heard Casey and Danny say they have recorded a few songs

    I’m a little surprised they don’t include Carrie or Daughtry on the list. They are two of the most proeminent idols. Carrie has had a pretty consistent timeline of releasing every two years and Daughtry have announced their intention of releasing in 2011.
    FWIW, the releases seem heavy in hip hop but a little light on pop after the last semester of 2010/first semester of 2011.

    If I could have my wish based on seeing the Idol show already, Paul, Jacob, James & Haley all deserve another song based on crowd response, so they could take one song away from Lauren temporarily and permanently from Pia, heh. I’d probably cut Born This Way also, it was the least successful of the group numbers, I thought.

    Yes, cut all the girl solo numbers and stick them as background singers for the guys = crowd reaction 100% garanteed.

  • Trina

    James is also absent from Napster, add in his “shopping around” comment (which some took to mean songs but that doesn’t make sense imo). He also talked about shopping around for a label specifically on his finale red carpet interview with LP Don’t know what the point in the Red Light deal is and if they’ll actually do anything.

  • Buffynut

    Barometz02 says:

    07/11/2011 at 9:01 am

    Danny Gokey’s debut album sold less than Blake Lewis’s, and none of his singles became a hit. The only reason why some people are acting like Danny is successful is because he went the country route.

    Ha, ha! It’s Idol World! Different barometers for different people and different seasons!

  • Tess

    I am concerned what will happen if “This Time” tanks on iTunes

    The song has been sung for 3 separate audiences and, as far as I can tell, it hasn’t made a dent in any kind of pre or post tour stop media. I haven’t perceived any You Tube hoopla, nor any internet virality. And, unless I have missed it, none of the radio stations associated with the three stops have gone out of their way to promote the song, at all.

    I am still confuseled about what Interscope was and is thinking about releasing Pia during the tour. She has very little “in the bubble” excitement and I haven’t seen any “out of the bubble” interest in her. Somebody, somewhere must know something I can’t get a handle on….it will be interesting to acknowledge that illusive “something” when it pops up.

    ETA…and even though almost all idolettes get a promo from Ryan’s show, I can’t remember any song he has featured for an idol going viral after his head’s up. Besides, once he introduces the song he doesn’t eve play it again as far as I can tell.

  • Kirsten

    I’d probably cut Born This Way also, it was the least successful of the group numbers, I thought.

    Totally agree. The other group number the women did was much more successful. BTW is pretty dead given the crowd’s initial excitement. But they can’t start with Pia either (ESoM isn’t big enough to open with). Man, if they could start with Paul’s Folsom Prison Blues, that would rev the crowd up. But they aren’t going to do that (plus, they need him to wake up the crowd after Pia sings). Maybe move “Tightrope” to the front? That’s more energetic.

  • tomk

    ETA: Just checked it out, and the Amazon New Release pages for Scotty and Lauren also use the EP cover images. So I agree with Kirsten, this must be a good sign.

    I know we don’t want to jinx anything, but at this point I’d say we should be in the 99.999% confidence range that something is going on. All of the clues and rumors…plus mj’s report a few weeks ago…is all coming together now.
    By the way, there is an EP page for Haley as well that is separate from the page linked above.

    Based on what Jimmy Iovine said before and during Idol, I got the impression that they were going to be far more aggressive with releasing recordings during the Idol Tour. Seemed like a really smart strategy.

    No doubt about it – they have already proven how more aggressive they are going to be. In one “sit down” session with Haley, Jimmy said there would be many winners on Idol this year. Or at least Jimmy was hoping there would be :-)

    Well, with Pia’s announcement coming before the tour started, there is now some breathing room, and I can’t see any advantage in waiting. If they were going to wait, it would make a lot more sense to announce around her hometown show in Chicago than in NY. We’ll see.

    They can make the official announcement at any time now IMHO. No reason at all to hold it back if everything is signed, sealed, and delivered.

  • Kirsten
    I am concerned what will happen if “This Time” tanks on iTunes

    The song has been sung for 3 separate audiences and, as far as I can tell, it hasn’t made a dent in any kind of pre or post tour stop media. I haven’t perceived any You Tube hoopla, nor any internet virality. And, unless I have missed it, none of the radio stations associated with the three stops have gone out of their way to promote the song, at all.

    I thought it was interesting (thought totally anecdotal) that the least viewed pictures in my Everett photo album are those of Pia (well, I just added three new pictures last night and they are viewed less than Pia’s pictures). Even Jacob and Thia have more views of their pictures. Jimmy has his work cut out for him.

    Most popular pictures? Those that Scotty/Lauren shippers think show one or the other looking lovingly at the other. Get used to the question, Scotty. Haley’s pictures are also insanely popular.

  • Valley

    Tweet from Chris D:
    Heading to LA on an exciting journey. I hope to have crazy awesome news for you guys soon

  • halo9125

    they could take one song away from Lauren temporarily and permanently from Pia

    I’m surprised nobody’s accused Pia of shoving Lauren down those steps in order to get more stage time…

  • Jamcracker

    I know we don’t want to jinx anything, but at this point I’d say we should be in the 99.999% confidence range that something is going on. All of the clues and rumors…plus mj’s report a few weeks ago…is all coming together now.
    By the way, there is an EP page for Haley as well that is separate from the page linked above.

    Regarding MJ’s report, both Kris and BC Jean have already denied having anything to do with the songs mentioned in the tip. Also a Wheeling reporter(@haleyscoop) has a local source who said she had not signed yet(but is close), contrary to mj’s tip. I agree that a deal for her is highly likely, but I don’t think the tip specifically should count for much, unless mj has any rebuttals? ‘Cause I’d like to believe it.

  • girlygirl

    Kris has not denied having anything to do with the Haley’s album — he simply said he knew nothing about the rumor that Haley was recording one of his songs. Two different things entirely. He has not said whether he actually wrote Love Too Much, though, or whether someone else wrote it and he simply recorded it.

  • Buffynut

    Also a Wheeling reporter(@haleyscoop) has a local source who said she had not signed yet(but is close),

    I don’t think a Wheeling reporter would know anymore than we do, because her parents are probably being told not to say anything. Haley looked very happy in the Lyndsey Parker interview so I would say she is signed. And she said something about being very excited about the future.
    I’ll bet she hasn’t done a single yet, though. But they have a day off, in LA on Thursday, so that would be a good day to get some recording in for all the signed contestants.

  • jsrj98

    If I could have my wish based on seeing the Idol show already, Paul, Jacob, James & Haley all deserve another song based on crowd response, so they could take one song away from Lauren temporarily and permanently from Pia, heh.

    Please do this soon. Attending the concert tomorrow, and would love to see another song from both James and Haley. Or what about a rock duet from them? How about “Lights” from Journey? Perfect for the Bay Area!

  • girlygirl

    I hope that Amazon page means that Haley is signed and her deal will be announced soon. When is the Idol tour stop in Vhicago? They could do an announcement timed around that.

    If Pia’s song tanks on iTunes, I assume Interscope will simply not push it too hard to radio. But they will likely give it a few weeks before making any decisions. Do we know when they are officially sending the song to radio?

  • http://www.kellydeanhansen.com MahlerFan

    Haley’s pictures are also insanely popular.

    One word. Legs.

  • Mary102

    I heard that BTW similarly fell kinda flat when the group did it on the idol finale. On tv it was just ho hum, but the audience report of it from someone said the crowd was really dead for it live. So yeah, cutting that seems to make sense. Switch to another more upbeat group number to open the show.

    As for the concert, from those of you who’ve gone – how is it overall? I’ll probably go this year, though I have mixed feelings about the group numbers and amount of Pia stage time, particularly since I find her very bland.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Regarding the info I posted about Haley? There’s a definite possibility I was punked.

    The only reason I posted the info in the first place was because, attached to the email, was a FULL mp3 of the Kris song in question. I’d never heard word of this song anywhere on the net. It hadn’t leaked. I figured it had to be a label insider who sent it.

    But when I found out that a small handful of Krisberts actually had the song in their possession. (Not me you say? This group of fans is very small, and I found out about them pretty quickly after I posted the item) I knew there was a possibility the item was fake.

    So who punked me? A Kris “insider” with a grudge against me. If this were a crime procedural, I can think of a few peeps who would have detectives knocking on their doors right about now. But I’m going to let it go, because it’s on me for jumping on the item so quickly.

    I got the tip via my email address. If it were really a songwriter wanting to pimp Haley, they would have sent me the email through my contact form. My actual email is not listed on the front page. Whoever sent the item has probably emailed me before.

    Also the fact that all the artists listed are connected to Sony should have been a HUGE tip off. Pia’s song is from a songwriter who has worked with UMG artist Rihanna, which is more like it.

    So basically, I have to own this one. But I will say, to whoever punked me. Well played! And, Karma is a bitch.

  • Fenway

    Haley is the only Idol this year whose music I might buy. I really like the tone of her voice, and I even enjoy her personality. I hope she gets signed and is able to make an album. I think she is pretty popular right now. She just won a poll on a blog which I know doesn’t mean much except it did show that she has a following.

    http://idolheaded.com/blog/2011/07/we-have-our-top-13-time-to-sing-all-time-idol-sing-off-begins-now/

  • http://www.kellydeanhansen.com MahlerFan

    The only thing that disappoints me about that, MJ, is that “Retro Kind of Girl” would have been such a cool album title. Well, at least there’s good (albeit speculative) news today…

  • http://www.kellydeanhansen.com MahlerFan

    Fenway, that blog, sort of like Slezak’s TVLine home, is known to be a Haleytard central–a “safe” place for her fans, as it were. I wouldn’t put a hell of a lot of stock into a poll there.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Cool! I hope that this isn’t some kind of confused snafu by Amazon and a sign that Haley really has been signed and is/will be recording a new EP/CD. :)

  • mada23

    Well, lets hope this time around it’s not just a mistake or wrong entry for Haley. Seems like every news we get about her ends up being false.

  • halo9125

    Amazon apparently updated their site:

    American Idol Season 10 Highlights by Haley Reinhart (Audio CD – 2011) – Import
    Buy new: $12.68

    Available for Pre-order. This item will be released on July 26, 2011.

  • Indigobunting

    Wow, MJ boo on deliberate misinformation :(

    I hope James gets signed; would love to hear what he puts out. I am saddened daily by the backseat good Rock has taken to other genres. This too will pass, however. Disco did :lol:

    t is possible that Country is now the most competitive genre in music. And it is certainly full of Idol alums.

    I agree Q3-and it is a myth that country is “easy” for anyone. Ask Chris Young who is on his third album and hasn’t hit huge sales even after charting 4 consecutive #1 singles.

    I do agree Scotty should be big though-Country winner and obviously has full label support, in contrast to S9 winner.

    Not going to address any other Country Idol specifically, but just saying that “success” to me means Still with their label and putting out music and drawing good crowds to headlining concerts and making a living doing it. Not all musical artists (whether Idol or not) have a meteoric rise to the top; some are slow and steady growers and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

  • Pixie Baker

    Haley’s pictures are also insanely popular.

    Haley was my favorite form the Season and I look forward to her releases, whenever they come! On top of loving her voice, to me she is an incredible beauty….(ah, youth!)… and am not surprised her pics are popular!

  • Buffynut

    Mary102 says:

    07/11/2011 at 10:58 am

    I heard that BTW similarly fell kinda flat when the group did it on the idol finale. On tv it was just ho hum, but the audience report of it from someone said the crowd was really dead for it live.

    I haven’t seen the tour yet, but I was at the Finale and it is pretty much non stop excitement from beginning to end, including BTW. The only song that came close to being anti-climatic was the Spiderman one. Too long, too slow, too boring.
    I have noticed, in the You Tubes of this year’s tour so far, the first 3 audiences seem to be all around subdued. I can remember a lot more standing for the shows I’ve been to, especially S5, 7, and 8.

  • jammasta

    Going to the concert tonight!

    How early do people usually go to the concert to meet them?

  • mada23

    Amazon apparently updated their site:

    American Idol Season 10 Highlights by Haley Reinhart (Audio CD – 2011) – Import
    Buy new: $12.68

    Available for Pre-order. This item will be released on July 26, 2011.

    That’s another entry that’s been there for a while now.

  • tepoztlan

    I don’t think a Wheeling reporter would know anymore than we do, because her parents are probably being told not to say anything. Haley looked very happy in the Lyndsey Parker interview so I would say she is signed. And she said something about being very excited about the future.

    I, actually, do trust @haleyscoop. They have been very thoroughly in covering all things “Haley.” There could be many sources for getting information besides Haley’s parents. There’re aunts, cousins, band members, music teachers. But I think we should look at the wording of information. It was way back on June 25, that @haleyscoop said Haley “was thisclose to signing with Interscope, nothing’s official yet.” @haleyscoop information agrees with MJ’s tip about record contract, but disagrees that it has not been actually signed. And on July 6, @haleyscoop comments, that in the Lyndsey Parker interview, Haley “makes it sound like an album is a done deal.” Sounds like they agree with what we all hope. It’s all good. We are all just Haley fans waiting for her album.

  • Buffynut

    I am a Haley fan too but if Haley has been told to not tell anyone and her parents are being tight lipped, I still say a Wheeling reporter doesn’t know anymore than we do. They are just speculating from the same sources we are using (such as the Lyndsey interview) and probably not as well as the usual Idol bloggers do it.

  • Fenway

    Mahlerfan I don’t put much stock in most of the blog polls, as there is so much manipulation going on. I was not voting for Haley as I am more interested in other Idols, but it did show she is getting some support which is good. She is a talented girl.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    The song has been sung for 3 separate audiences and, as far as I can tell, it hasn’t made a dent in any kind of pre or post tour stop media.

    Well, a quick google search of “Pia Toscano, This Time” yielded ~130 hits in the past 5 days, so I would say that’s at least a “dent”.

  • adolf_hipster

    lmao Krisberts.

    Idolberts really do have some special gene that activates some major cray when it comes to their favourite white male contestant.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    lmao Krisberts.

    No. It’s more like lamo “insert any idol cray cray fans here”

    This is NOT specific to Kris fans. Why, I’m sure there are fans of YOUR favorite Idol who are just as crazy and/or vindictive.

    I repeat. The Haley deal has nothing to do with Kris or his fans.

  • Elliegrll

    If Pia’s song tanks on iTunes

    Why would they base anything on what happens on Itunes, before they promote the song to radio? How are people supposed to know about the song? For the past few years, Interscope has been the best at getting their artists airplay, so I think they are fully aware that radio is necessary in order for people to buy the music. It doesn’t seem like they are just interested in appealing to the idol fans where any of their signees are concerned.

  • LexieN

    Scotty is scheduled to be on CMT radio live tonight…can’t tell what time…I wonder how “live” it can be when he’s supposed to be in a concert?:) But I’m planning on tuning in….

  • Tess

    It doesn’t seem like they are just interested in appealing to the idol fans where any of their signees are concerned.

    Probably an accurate statement but totally unsubstantiated at this time. Pia is singing “her song” on an idol stage in front of thousands of Idol fans. She is, in essence, going to be held somewhat captive by the AI tour thru mid September. I would think that any TV and radio promotions for her song will be bookended by mentions of the AI tour and the audience for these predominately local broadcasts will be listening or watching, not because they are enamored with Pia but because they have an interest in American Idol as a whole and “some” of the contestants as a part and parcel of the promo.

    I just don’t understand the meme that says she is being marketed above and beyond idol…haven’t seen it yet, can’t think that it will happen prior to mid September. She is NOW a ninth place idol finisher on an idol tour singing to an idol audience…how is that being marketed outside of the bubble?

  • Avari

    Re the debunked Haley-Kris-song-thing;

    I will never cease to be amazed at what crazy fans of “insert any idol name here” get up to. Gotta admire their energy and persistence, I guess.

    Assuming “berts” means BSC fans (and not all fans), I don’t think the Krisberts are any better or any worse than other idolberts out there. I believe that cray cray only comes in one flavor, it’s just the packaging that varies. :-)

  • springboard

    I just don’t understand the meme that says she is being marketed above and beyond idol…haven’t seen it yet, can’t think that it will happen prior to mid September. She is NOW a ninth place idol finisher on an idol tour singing to an idol audience…how is that being marketed outside of the bubble?

    If her song is pushed on radio, she will be marketed outside the bubble, although of course, having been on idol will help considerably.

  • girlygirl

    Scotty’s and Lauren’s singles totally appeal to their Idol fanbases so I disagree with the idea that UMG is not interested in appealing to those fans with their releases. In Pia’s case, I think UMG simply understands that the power ballads Pia excels at simply isn’t the type of music that sells or gets played on the radio right now. They needed to try and make her fit into what’s current, so they are trying to turn her into a pop/r&b/dance artist. Whether they’ll be successful at this, I don’t know, but I don’t think they are deliberately trying to ignore her Idol fanbase.

  • Lucy1234

    I have my doubts about Lauren. So far her sales look good but she seems so young and unprepared to me

    Evidentally you did not read Kisten’s review of the Idol’s Live concert she attended. Per her review, Lauren’s voice was amazing live and she had a great connection with the audience. Seems she was very confident and comfortable on stage and Kirsten predicted she would be a star. It may take a while but the girl has the goods IMO and will someday make it big as a country artist – she is ONLY 16 and if she is this good now, just wait until she is in her 20’s.

  • Elliegrll

    I just don’t understand the meme that says she is being marketed above and beyond idol…haven’t seen it yet, can’t think that it will happen prior to mid September. She is NOW a ninth place idol finisher on an idol tour singing to an idol audience…how is that being marketed outside of the bubble?

    To rephrase my point, UMG has a different philosophy about marketing and promotion than Sony’s. They are going to keep Pia, Scottty and Lauren out in front of the public. They’ve already said that Scotty will be doing a radio promo tour during the AI tour, and it looks like Pia will be doing the same. My point is that they aren’t just relying on these people’s AI popularity, and letting that carry them through to the time that the albums are released.

  • Eileen99

    I have my doubts about Lauren. So far her sales look good but she seems so young and unprepared to me

    Evidentally you did not read Kisten’s review of the Idol’s Live concert she attended. Per her review, Lauren’s voice was amazing live and she had a great connection with the audience.

    Yes, I saw the Everett show, too. Lauren is as prepared & in many cases more prepared than any of the other contestants in the show. She had a great connection with the audience & I thought lit up the room with her personality.

  • Elliegrll

    I don’t know, but I don’t think they are deliberately trying to ignore her Idol fanbase.

    I’m not saying that they are ignoring the AI base. You said that they wouldn’t push the song to radio if the Itunes numbers aren’t good, but my point is that the early itunes numbers only show us how many hardcore fans she has, it doesn’t show us what will happen if the song is promoted.

    Think about what happened with “Live Like We’re Dying”. It only sold 15,000 the first three days, and a total of less than 40,000 after ten days, so given what you said about Pia, Jive should have give up on it, and not tried to see if the song could find an audience through airplay. But, thankfully, that’s not how things work. People can’t buy a song that they don’t know about.

  • Tess

    she seems so young and unprepared to me

    It isn’t like Lauren and her peeps don’t know that she is young, pretty green, and almost certainly, unprepared. Her only “musical schooling” prior to idol was singing in some local bars a few nights a week…and always just “kareoke”, I don’t think she had a back-up band or any original material.

    But Lauren, to me, has demonstrated a pretty healthy IT factor and she has a damn good understanding of her own current abilities and skill level and isn’t trying to be or to sing outside of her comfort level. I think she is one smart cookie with a very good sense of self and the ability to see the difference between hype and reality. I also think she is trainable…she is like a sponge, ready to absorb and isn’t so full of herself that there isn’t lots of space left to learn and grow. She doesn’t need to be an instant star….right now Country is pretty full-up with lots of talented women. When the openings occur she will be primed and ready to take over for some really talent gals.

  • Tess

    Think about what happened with “Live Like We’re Dying”. It only sold 15,000 the first three days, and a total of less than 40,000 after ten days,

    Not a real good comparison….the song itself was really good, had a great hook, and was sung well by someone the public, by and large, was eager to hear, so whether it started slow it made up for it by being interesting to radio listeners. Don’t know if Pia and her song have much of this.

  • linsmile

    Ack, MJ – sorry you experienced aggravation per craziness.

    Reading back, I’m confused. Was the craziness – i.e. bad info re Haley-Kris-song-thing – something new that happened today (like maybe it was posted today and then deleted) or was it from a couple of weeks ago? Or maybe it’s both – meaning that the rumor from a couple of weeks ago and the reference to it today are both debunked?

    ETA: And reading my comment back – MJ I think you experience aggravation per craziness most every day…

  • girlygirl

    Elliegrll

    I also said that they would wait a few weeks to see what happens with the song before making any decisions.. That’s what I meant. I wasn’t saying that Interscope wouldn’t push it if the song doesn’t sell right away — rather that if it doesn’t catch on the radio and start selling after a few weeks, then they would be more likely to not actively push it. A few weeks could be 4,5, 6 weeks. Or maybe even longer. But the label isn’t going to support any song indefinitely if it isn’t selling. That’s what I meant — not that it had to sell big right away.

    Sorry if my point wasn’t clear

  • Elliegrll

    Not a real good comparison….the song itself was really good, had a great hook, and was sung well by someone the public, by and large, was eager to hear, so whether it started slow it made up for it by being interesting to radio listeners. Don’t know if Pia and her song have much of this.

    The slow start didn’t indicate that the public was eager to hear a song from Kris, at least in comparison to what we’d seen by the first week numbers from other idol alums. The only people who know about Pia’s song are the ones who have attended the AI concerts, people who were listening to Ryan’s show when he played it, and hardcore fans. This is not a very large pool, so why would UMG judge the song based on this small group, instead of pushing it to radio, and seeing what happens.

  • Tess

    This is not a very large pool, so why would UMG judge the song based on this small group, instead of pushing it to radio, and seeing what happens.

    A million bucks is a lot of money for Pia and Interscope to be spending especially with no hint that radio will be interested since, so far, no one has proven that Pia has any kind of a fan base other than what her ninth place idol finish has shown. But, heh, it ain’t my money.

  • whateverblah

    I wish they would just announce the f’ing deal already.

  • girlygirl

    RT: @trei1658: David Cook’s song “Paper Heart” from his new album This Loud Morning is streaming on HitPredictor

  • http://www.kellydeanhansen.com MahlerFan

    I wish they would just announce the f’ing deal already.

    ITA. I can’t imagine what gain there is from a delay unless it has something to do with stealing Pia’s thunder. Which is kind of annoying given their respective placements on the show.

  • girlygirl

    Another reason why comparison to LLWD not necessarily a good idea. LLWD was released to iTunes on a Friday.

  • girlygirl

    what Ping deal? What am I missing here?

    and yay for Cookie being on Leno this week!

  • Elliegrll

    Another reason why comparison to LLWD not necessarily a good idea. LLWD was released to iTunes on a Friday.

    Hardcore fans don’t care when a song is released. Compare the ten day total of LLWD, which was 39,000 to the seven day total for Cook’s LO, which sold over 100,000 copies its first week. That’s a huge difference, and the same is true for Crush. The point is that people have to know about a song in order to buy it. People were pronouncing LLWD dead on arrival with those numbers. It was also called dated, and some of the same things that are being said about Pia’s single. But, when radio started playing it, and people whose opinions weren’t formed by an AI fan bias heard it, the song started to sell.

    I’m not going to judge Pia’s song based on how many hardcore AI fans she has, and I don’t see Interscope making that mistake, either.

    A million bucks is a lot of money for Pia and Interscope to be spending especially with no hint that radio will be interested since, so far, no one has proven that Pia has any kind of a fan base other than what her ninth place idol finish has shown. But, heh, it ain’t my money.

    There are a whole lot of people who have launched careers without the benefit of having competed on American Idol.

  • tripp_ncwy

    thedavidcook
    Out and about in Blue Springs today, shooting stuff with @vevo! Then back to LA for @jaylenotonight on Wednesday.

  • sma11ie

    Assuming “berts” means BSC fans (and not all fans), I don’t think the Krisberts are any better or any worse than other idolberts out there

    Can someone explain the “bert” thing to me briefly? The term, I mean. Where does it come from/mean? Just curious.

  • Valentin432

    Can someone explain the “bert” thing to me briefly? The term, I mean. Where does it come from/mean? Just curious.

    Not an expert, but I always thought the term refered to Kris/Lambert shippers.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I thought that “Krisbert” referred to rabid fans of both Kris and Adam. (“Kris” + “bert” from “Glambert”)

  • ozarko

    David Archuleta is on the cover of KaWanku magazine. This latest issue comes with a bonus poster of David.

    Cover page

    Poster

  • jewels

    Hardcore fans don’t care when a song is released. Compare the ten day total of LLWD, which was 39,000 to the seven day total for Cook’s LO, which sold over 100,000 copies its first week. That’s a huge difference, and the same is true for Crush. The point is that people have to know about a song in order to buy it. People were pronouncing LLWD dead on arrival with those numbers.

    This is idol fandom, people call everything a failure until it is proven otherwise. This blog for example, wanked themselves silly about the huge drop from week 1 to week 2 for FYE the album and yet it continued to chart for a year.

    I think the problem with a slow start for a song is that it doesn’t indicate much interest in the actual artist. That was Kris’ problem, no matter how high LLWD actually climbed, it seemed to do very little to sell Kris. Light On and Crush both did a great job of selling the contestants albums, LLWD, not so much.

    I always thought LLWD was going to be a hit, it is a great song. Not sure about this Pia song, I disagree that it is catchy or has a great hook, I think it is dull and forgettable, but surely we all know that it doesn’t matter the quality of the song, all that really matters is are you favoured with radio stations? If radio stations like you, they play your music even if very few people are actually buying it (see According to You, The Truth, September)

  • Incipit

    tripp_ncwy, always nice to get DC #NewsFromTheSource – I wonder what the Vevo stuff will turn out to be?

    Little crumbs today have been nice, like TLM on Pandora, and David on Yahoo music search – because the connecting with people who don’t listen to radio anymore is important too…But I’ll have a Happy Dance for the Leno Appearance, if David gets to talk! #NSDCLDC. *wink*

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja
  • Ringo

    Getting caught up in record sales numbers is ultimately odd for me. I enjoy singers who are unique artists who, more often than not, are not the best sellers, even during they hey days. People/bands like Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, Van Morrison, Eryka Badu, Riki Lee Jones, Radiohead. It’s only rarely that one of my favorites is also be a popular singer. So if my favorite idol is not a top selling artist, it’s not a shock. What I do think is unfortunate is when an idol could be a unique artist but gets caught up singing like another popular artist instead of themselves, or has their work so over-produced that they are virtually unrecognizable as to sound like everyone else.

    Of all the idols this year, the two most unique to my mind is Casey and Haley because of their extensive musical background and jazz training. I have hopes particulaly for Haley in coming up with a unique style to match her unique voice and vibe, but fear the worst given her apparent need to conform to what TPTB want from her. I would really love for her to insist on singing a different song on the tour (like At Last or Que Sera or even an original).

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I may be the only one looking forward to the video of “Moves Like Jaggar.” I really like both Maroon 5 and Christina (even will all her imperfections).

  • theonlygirl

    Ok, for the record the -bert meme started on Livejournal and emanated from Glambert ( Adam super fan ) and then ended up also being a verb: to bert = to flail over Adam Lambert. And then is also broadened into other forms like Idolberts ( people who are REALLY into Idol ), Krisberts, Cookberts, Tommyberts etc. The Kradam shippers are Kradamberts for example.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Thanks for the explanation, theonlygirl. :)

  • girlygirl

    on the road again …hopefully the A/C won’t break

    krisallen

    #Headed to Nashville! Nashville, I have one request of you…..to be colder than this. http://say.ly/pfCuik

    zorropup

    #Nashville here I come! http://lockerz.com/s/119276752

    lol…he looks so thrilled

    Kris is going to be in Nashville (supposedly) for the next couple weeks

  • Keel

    Ok, for the record the -bert meme started on Livejournal and emanated from Glambert ( Adam super fan ) and then ended up also being a verb: to bert = to flail over Adam Lambert. And then is also broadened into other forms like Idolberts ( people who are REALLY into Idol ), Krisberts, Cookberts, Tommyberts etc. The Kradam shippers are Kradamberts for example.

    So basically it seems that -bert is another version of -tard.

  • Fenway

    I am not a big fan of Kris’, but I am a fan of Zorropup. He is pretty cute.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    It looks like Joe McElderry is signing a record deal with Decca (Universal). And they plan to release his new album in August.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM25BHvr8Kc

  • larc

    It looks like Joe McElderry is signing a record deal with Decca (Universal). And they plan to release his new album in August.

    I’ve heard of rushing albums, but this is ridiculous. The UK news guy said early August. It sounds as if it may be no more than four weeks from now.

  • CindyM

    theonlygirl says:
    07/11/2011 at 4:37 pm

    Ok, for the record the -bert meme started on Livejournal and emanated from Glambert ( Adam super fan ) and then ended up also being a verb: to bert = to flail over Adam Lambert. And then is also broadened into other forms like Idolberts ( people who are REALLY into Idol ), Krisberts, Cookberts, Tommyberts etc. The Kradam shippers are Kradamberts for example.

    Great explanation, I couldn’t figure out how to word it, so I’m glad you did it. The funniest use for me was when VH1 tweeted about Adam and in response to someone saying they were “berting” over Adam, they responded:

    VH1 bert bert bert! We’re baaaack ;)
    2:34 PM Apr 11th via web

    Even JimC has used the “bert” suffix..lol.

  • chrislongisland

    Haley’s album will be amazing, especially if she takes her time.

  • TwigLA

    I really wish people would stop using ‘bert’ for anyone other than the person whose name ends in that suffix and his ott fans. It’s annoyed me for 2 years now.

    I’d also like to see a moratorium on ‘cray cray’. If someone means crazy, they should just write out the stinking word because I’m pretty sure they’re not talking about a supercomputer.

  • Fullmoon

    I really wish people would stop using ‘bert’ for anyone other than the person whose name ends in that suffix and his ott fans. It’s annoyed me for 2 years now.

    I’m not sure how anyone can prevent the ott Kris and Adam fans for using that term. Clearly it’s a term they adopted and no matter how annoyed the majority of their fanbases are as long as there are Kris and Adam fans I don’t see it going anywhere.

  • ross

    I really wish people would stop using ‘bert’ for anyone other than the person whose name ends in that suffix and his ott fans. It’s annoyed me for 2 years now.

    I’d also like to see a moratorium on ‘cray cray’. If someone means crazy, they should just write out the stinking word because I’m pretty sure they’re not talking about a supercomputer.

    Also, when you’re talking about performers, the word is “trouper,” not “trooper.” :)