Idol Headlines for 7/23/10

i bet Ruben and Clay will have a blast on tour together

Danny is opening for Tim McGraw tonight, for one of the shows on Tim’s “Southern Voice Tour”.

Matt Giraud just gave a radio interview to plug his concert tomorrow, and he sang that his single “Thank You” with Jim Brickman is coming out next week. (He and the DJs sang the interview to the tune of “Human Nature”. Matt sounded great, but the DJs less so.) I hope the folks at his concert tomorrow will extract more details on the single release, like an actual date.

In Matt’s concert tomorrow he will be playing a few songs with an orchestra, and he and the conductor have created an orchestral arrangement for at least one of Matt’s originals, “I Miss You Tonight.”

Gorgeous, as always!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QKoM0KpMYSY/TEjgb9XctBI/AAAAAAAABGY/biaxxDzkGTo/s1600/133876353-11e28ed1876894a19169a0e2c41210db.4c48e288-full.jpg
David was interviewed at VEVO

http://goo.gl/fb/JWRZD
David sang The National Anthem at EA Madden Celeb Flag Football Game – July 22, 2010
Game will be televised on Aug 8th on NBC!

^heh a bunch of pics from the Madden thing.

Gotta love the UK press, at least the picture is good of Adam

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=16beqv5&s=3

The Clay and Ruben interview is funny!

sr4mjc:
07/23/2010 at 9:08 am
Gotta love the UK press, at least the picture is good of Adam

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=16beqv5&s=3

I don’t remember Adam ever saying he had a crush on any of those guys. At least they choose a great picture, I loved his whole look.

^^Well, at least Adam is in a good company. JLS (X Factor 5 runner ups) are very popular in the UK.

Some changes for British X Factor:
Please cut the cheese

Danny is opening for Tim McGraw tonight, for one of the shows on Tim’s “Southern Voice Tour”.

this sounds like a sweet gig…

I don’t remember Adam ever saying he had a crush on any of those guys.

Me, neither. And Adam is not a lipstick lover….eyeliner, rhinestones, studs, and glitter – Yes – but not lipstick. Lol.

^heh a bunch of pics from the Madden thing.

those pics from the madden celeb football game are great – pretty sweet that this will be televised. hoping that david’s na will be also…

Kat Mcphee will be in Tennesee today.

23rd – Concert: Kingsport, TN, Kingsport Funfest. Friday’s concert featuring Kat with opening acts Tinos Cory & Cartel.

25th – Appearance/Performance: 6534 W. Sunset Blvd, Hollywood, CA. An Evening With Angels 2 presented by Elevate Hope Foundation

Adam Lambert is now the most followed American Idol contestant on Twitter.

Adam Lambert 539,856
Jordin Sparks 539,798
David Archuleta 410,818
Kelly Clarkson 311,945
Kellie Pickler 241,850

Katharine Mcphee Weekend appearances

23rd – Concert: Kingsport, TN, Funfest. Friday’s concert featuring Kat with opening acts Tinos Cory & Cartel.

25th – Appearance/Performance: 6523 W. Sunset Blvd, Hollywood, CA, An Evening With Angels 2 presented by Elevate Hope Foundation

Danny is opening for Tim McGraw tonight, for one of the shows on Tim’s “Southern Voice Tour”.

A fan asked his team in Wheaton, IL at a meet & greet how long his set will be and they said 40 minutes

Not as long as his headlining 1.5 hours but decent as an opener for a top country name.

Hope he does TROUBLE, think those Tim fans will love it. Sure he will do plenty off his album also.

Congrats to Adam on gaining the twitter follower lead. At the rate he is still gaining followers, he will leave the pack far behind quickly!

Sorry if this has already been posted, but there is so much news about Danny these days, it is hard to keep up.

But wanted to give a shout out to Danny and Carrie Underwood on their nominations for the Inspirational Country Awards. Danny is nominated in the Best Song and Best Artist categories. He is among some great company.

And it was so great to see Matt and Danny and Ryan Seacrest together at the Milwaukee auditions.

Itunes Update:

Undo It 31
IIHY 47
SBL 81
WWFM 93
Sept 271
LLWD 273
TT 544
FYE 939

29 28 ADAM LAMBERT If I Had You 1678 1453 225 8.127
+40 Spins
+3 Bullet
+0.215 AI

ruben and clay are really great together – they have a chemistry and an easy humor with each other that looks and feels very natural. they genuinely seem to like each other, and their banter is very engaging and funny. i like the sense of humor they both possess about life after idol. i may now try to see them on tour if they come close to me. they are very entertaining in this clip.

Kanadie Bonttell:
Congrats to Adam on gaining the twitter follower lead. At the rate he is still gaining followers, he will leave the pack far behind quickly!

I’ve noticed that lately he’s been gaining over a thousand a day. Where the heck have they been coming from? Couldn’t be just from his tour. That’s cool anyway.

why they always looking for new adam lambert wannabe?they try like crush adam down.get next someone else like bieber,didnt they said they looking for next bieber?i hope this time be girl like mily cyrus teenage star for season 10.enoug of boys winning american idol.
i hate when they looking for someone like adam.why they dont get someone like soibhan magnus wannabe.

tuti:
why they always looking for new adam lambert wannabe?

It is a compliment. What they are referring to is finding someone who has star potential. Someone not only with incredible vocals, but charismatic and has stage presence.

Mod is chatty again

RCAEd:Re: Glamnation concert DVDWe’re definitely looking into the financials and trying to make it happen, guys, so just stand by. I’d rather not get into details before there’s a real confirmation o

RCA Ed:Re: HAS ADAM BEEN WORKING OUT…………?..He has, but the rock and roll diet (touring and all of the physical exertion/work/exhaustion/adrenalin bursts) that comes with it is also helping our boy look smashing.

eta to remove weird characters

RCAEd:Re: Glamnation concert DVDWe’re definitely looking into the financials and trying to make it happen, guys, so just stand by. I’d rather not get into details before there’s a real confirmation o

Right on to the possibilities of a GlamNation concert DVD!

The concert DVD would be the smartest decision RCA ever made, but bringing back the HBO concert series would be even better, jussayin

And congrats on the Twitter lead!

I bought Pink’s Funhouse Tour live in Australia off Itunes, it’s got audio and video tracks. I’d definitely buy a Glam Nation version like that.

sr4mjc:
07/23/2010 at 11:08 am
Mod is chatty again

RCAEd:Re: Glamnation concert DVDWe’re definitely looking into the financials and trying to make it happen, guys, so just stand by. I’d rather not get into details before there’s a real confirmation o

Oh please, do they have any idea how many Adam Lambert fans would love to have a video of his best live performances from this tour. Fans of his all around the world, would snatch this up in a heartbeat. Can I just go ahead and pre-order mine now?

Mediabase Updates:

Pop:
29 28 ADAM LAMBERT If I Had You 1678 1453 225 8.127
56 56 KRIS ALLEN The Truth 297 321 -24 0.884
72 64 DAUGHTRY September 204 151 53 0.779
86 82 ALLISON IRAHETA Don’t Waste The Pretty 98 91 7 0.187
96 93 KRIS ALLEN Heartless 59 72 -13 0.515
124 151 CARRIE UNDERWOOD Cowboy Casanova 16 33 -17 0.079
177 163 DAVID ARCHULETA Something ‘Bout Love 12 9 3 0.041

HAC:
7 8 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 2831 3156 -325 15.075
17 15 DAUGHTRY September 1789 1622 167 9.063
24 23 KRIS ALLEN The Truth 1262 1108 154 4.638
35 40 KELLY CLARKSON All I Ever Wanted 364 420 -56 2.478

Country:
2 1 CARRIE UNDERWOOD Undo It 5100 5019 81 37.092
33 31 KELLIE PICKLER Makin’ Me Fall In Lo… 1011 943 68 6.052
45 42 DANNY GOKEY I Will Not Say Goodb… 458 420 38 1.907

AC:
7 6 DAUGHTRY Life After You 1172 1157 15 9.387
8 8 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 1099 1111 -12 10.661
9 9 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dyin… 1030 1100 -70 5.235

Urban AC:

4 5 FANTASIA Bittersweet 1751 1823 -72 11.92

2 1 CARRIE UNDERWOOD Undo It 5100 5019 81 37.092

Congrats to Carrie for #1 on country radio.

The Ruben/Clay show sounds like it is going to be a blast, an evening of great voices and interaction. They both seem to love and respect each other a lot and the comfort level really shows.

It’s interesting how many real life friendships have emerged from trying out for a tv show. I think that’s awesome.

I have to lol again at FYE being in the top 1,000. I think this is the 3rd or 4th day in a row! LOL Can that one performance by the cheerleaders keep it selling a few days? Maybe some of the other cheerleading squads saw it and thought it would be a good song for one of their routines or something. Who knows? Kinda kewl and funny though

RCA Ed:Re: HAS ADAM BEEN WORKING OUT…………?..He has, but the rock and roll diet (touring and all of the physical exertion/work/e?xhaustion/adren?alin bursts) that comes with it is also helping our boy look smashing.

Sometimes I wonder if RCA Ed has ever been out of his basement. I’m hardly the most worldy person in the world, but even I know that the Rock and Roll diet means something else (and usually requires a lot of blow).

Seriously Ed, use a different description before the tabs pick it up and run with it.

Disclaimer: I am at no point suggesting that Adam’s recent weight loss is due to drug use (and yes, I know, he doesn’t like blow), I’m picking on the RCA Ed guy. Yes, I know that Adam has lost weight recently (I see his pictures when I load the main page) and that he has been working hard and that RCA Ed is probably correct about how he is losing the weight. I’m still picking on RCA Ed’s choice of words. Yes, I know that the RCA Ed is better than all the other Idol moderators and at least he gives people information, but I still reserve the right to call him a goof. And No, I’m not saying that Adam was fat before, just that he is thinner now. You can still be thinner without having ever been fat.

I have to lol again at FYE being in the top 1,000. I think this is the 3rd or 4th day in a row! LOL

It’s up to #915 now! It’s too bad it was “too sexy” for radio. It could have been a big hit. A song about being tied to a bed with the house burning down … that’s okay though … radio has no problem with that.

Disclaimer: I am at no point suggesting that Adam’s recent weight loss is due to drug use (and yes, I know, he doesn’t like blow), I’m picking on the RCA Ed guy.

Well, so the tabs don’t pick up on “it” maybe we should not discuss the RCA mods use of words, etc here either.

More news on Matt’s single “Thank You” from @ainow:

Per @ImMattGiraud management: new single has radio release date of August 9th. Not available for download till September. Stay tuned!

Released straight to radio!!! Yay, Matt!

Disclaimer: I am at no point suggesting that Adam’s recent weight loss is due to drug use (and yes, I know, he doesn’t like blow), I’m picking on the RCA Ed guy. Yes, I know that Adam has lost weight recently (I see his pictures when I load the main page) and that he has been working hard and that RCA Ed is probably correct about how he is losing the weight. I’m still picking on RCA Ed’s choice of words. Yes, I know that the RCA Ed is better than all the other Idol moderators and at least he gives people information, but I still reserve the right to call him a goof. And No, I’m not saying that Adam was fat before, just that he is thinner now. You can still be thinner without having ever been fat.

Great disclaimer.

The Clay and Ruben sounds like it should be fun.

David Archuleta looks really good in his new photo’s. Looking forward to his CD.

Sometimes I wonder if RCA Ed has ever been out of his basement. I’m hardly the most worldy person in the world, but even I know that the Rock and Roll diet means something else (and usually requires a lot of blow).

LOL as usual, Kirsten. I now have this image of RCA Ed typing away on AO in some dark basement somewhere. LOL again at the wonderful disclaimer. I’m guessing, like you, that his idea of Adam’s Rock and Roll diet does not involve “buttloads” of blow, heh. Also, who says “smashing” in normal conversations? But the fanboying is kinda cute/amusing. Does this dude still do any modding on Daughtry Official anymore? He seems so active on AO.

Since the RCA mod explains exactly what he means by “rock and roll diet” right after in parenthesis, isn’t that sufficient? Adam has stated in interviews that he is eating better and exercising before each show in addition to the workout he is getting on the show. I never even thought of anything else. Also, the weight loss isn’t really recent or sudden, he’s been thinning down since the holidays and a bit before. His arms, damn, you can tell he’s been working out.

LOL about the basement thing though, I often wonder that about internet posters. At least RCA ED gets paid for it

But the fanboying is kinda cute/amusing.

It’s why I posted it, I found it amusing and the mod amusing in his ramblings. I didn’t even think about the rock and roll diet part as I didn’t think of it that way. Lol Kirsten.

Anyone able to go in Reno?

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Gifting 100 tics 4 @KrisAllen Reno concert: Send name & #needed to sdljroller@msn.com. Retweet please. In honor of @DA4Real’s 24th birthday.

I keep hoping she’ll give away tickets near me someday!

Adam said he’s lost weight after the idol tour. They fed them crap food, and if you’re not used to eating like that, you would likely gain weight. He loves vegetables and salads, so he’s back to his healthy eating. He said he is exercising before his shows to give him a boost.

Awww nice, the Warfield Marquee…

http://twitter.com/Cazana78
Oo, they changed the marquee already! http://twitpic.com/27tao1
about 7 hours ago via Twitpic

So, since this sign says that the two SF concerts are part of the “Bud Light Concert Series”, does that mean they are sponsored concerts and what does that mean for Adam? Any costs defrayed or picked up by the sponsor?

Since the RCA mod explains exactly what he means by “rock and roll diet” right after in parenthesis, isn’t that sufficient?

Of course it’s sufficient and clear what he means. It doesn’t mean it can’t also be funny. It’s like if I said, “Sally did a great job cutting the cheese for the party”, and followed up with a clear description of how she did a bang up job cutting everything into perfect little cubes and made a beautiful spread. It’s totally clear what I meant, but it doesn’t mean everyone else can’t laugh about and be 3rd graders about the “cutting the cheese” phrase. That’s all we’re doing. Being 3rd graders in the comments section of MJs. While typing away in dark basements, and using creative descriptors like buttloads and smashing to describe our favorite rock stars . Don’t you see? We point and laugh, and are amused by RCA Ed, but we are all here, so aren’t we all RCA Ed in some way, no? DISCLAIMER: I’m just joking around, and using “we” to denote just myself, not placing judgment on anyone else. Also? TOTALLY kidding, completely.

ETA: CindyM, can’t speak for Kirsten, but I do start sentences with “seriously” quite often when my intention is to be snarky. I can’t imagine Kirsten really thought the tabs would pick up on that– it’s a pretty ridiculous/funny claim. I interpreted Kirsten’s entire post to be light snark and nothing more. YMMV.

Katharine Mcphee Weekend appearances

23rd – Concert: Kingsport, TN, Funfest. Friday’s concert featuring Kat with opening acts Tinos Cory & Cartel.

that has to be the most WTF lineup I ever heard of. And even funnier that McPhee would be headliing over Cartel. Seriously, that girl pops up in the most unlikely places.

RCAEd:Re: Glamnation concert DVDWe’re definitely looking into the financials and trying to make it happen, guys, so just stand by. I’d rather not get into details before there’s a real confirmation o

OMG – YES! Please a thousand times over let this happen! I would buy it in a heart beat! Heck, I’d buy multiple DVDs with multiple versions of each song! I mean, really, how to choose between the best version of WLL, or Fever, or IIHY – they’re all so good and unique!

Eh, the reason those publications are tabloids are that they can take ANYTHING and make it questionable, sleazy, etc. It’s their job. I see Kirsten’s point, as in don’t give them ammo, but really, all it takes is to be publically recognized to be a target of a twist on reality, ya know?

Truth doesn’t remotely come into play for the most part.;-)

So, since this sign says that the two SF concerts are part of the “Bud Light Concert Series”, does that mean they are sponsored concerts and what does that mean for Adam? Any costs defrayed or picked up by the sponsor?

My best guess is that since Bud Light pays the venues for advertising, Adam doesn’t have to pay the venue for their expenses. Lots of events look for sponsors to defray their costs.

Why is it that almost everytime I scroll or refresh, the Clay/Ruben video comes on. I must have heard them about 10 times.

Congrats to Adam on gaining the twitter follower lead. At the rate he is still gaining followers, he will leave the pack far behind quickly!

Is it really that important that Adam kick every fellow Idol’s butt in every possible way? Isn’t it enough that he’s earning a nice living doing what he loves?

This constant one-upmanship from Idol fans is a drag, and is the genesis of fan wars. Really, seriously over it at this point.

In the same vein, I showed my hubs the IIHY vid to see if he recognized someone in it (Alli). The first thing he noticed was the Sony Dash, very prominently displayed in the beginning. He said Sony probably paid quite a bit for that product placement.

It’s all advertising.

Well, so the tabs don’t pick up on “it” maybe we should not discuss the RCA mods use of words, etc here either.

I don’t know. I just can’t see the tab getting many hits from the screaming headline “Random Blogger Thinks Website Manager Lives in a Basement – Is He Geek? Do You Care?” compared to “RCA PR Insider: Adam Lambert on ‘Rock and Roll Diet’ – Is he Too Thin? Can He Be Saved?”.

Of course it’s sufficient and clear what he means. It doesn’t mean it can’t also be funny. It’s like if I said, “Sally did a great job cutting the cheese for the party”, and followed up with a clear description of how she did a bang up job cutting everything into perfect little cubes and made a beautiful spread. It’s totally clear what I meant, but it doesn’t mean everyone else can’t laugh about and be 3rd graders about the “cutting the cheese” phrase.

Good analogy.

ETA: CindyM, can’t speak for Kirsten, but I do start sentences with “seriously” quite often when my intention is to be snarky. I can’t imagine Kirsten really thought the tabs would pick up on that– it’s a pretty ridiculous/funny claim. I interpreted Kirsten’s entire post to be light snark and nothing more. YMMV.

That’s exactly what I intended.

Disclaimer: I don’t think that the tabs troll the Adam Official site. It’s a busy site and they aren’t going to spend the time hoping that RCA Ed might say something when they’ve got Lindsay and Mel to follow around (much higher chance of something juicy). I don’t think they would get much traction implying that Adam is doing drugs because he’s already been open about it in the past and rock&roll+drugs is hardly something shocking or new. It’s kind of expected. So, I don’t think the tabs will pick up anything. I just thought that RCA Ed used a naive turn of phrase and I snarked on it. Yes, he’s better than anybody else’s mod.

Kirsten, too funny on all your disclaimers. Too bad you have to even do that. Anyway, I really hope Clay and Ruben find lots of success in touring together. Sonny and Cher – lol. Can you see Ruben with long hair (or any at all)?

Talk Stoop: Clay Aiken:

Loved by people all over the world, one would never expect Clay Aiken to be so down to earth and poignantly honest. He’s also wickledly funny. Listen in to what he thinks of his charmed career, being gay in the spotlight, and his rabid fans – The Claymates. Cat Greenleaf was mezmerized on Talk Stoop!

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/shows/talk-stoop/

mj:
07/23/2010 at 1:16 pm

Congrats to Adam on gaining the twitter follower lead. At the rate he is still gaining followers, he will leave the pack far behind quickly!

Is it really that important that Adam kick every fellow Idol’s butt in every possible way? Isn’t it enough that he’s earning a nice living doing what he loves?

Sure it’s enough. But isn’t that the name of the game here? Everytime one of the idols (including Adam) does something, aren’t there fans of past idols that do the same thing and post why it’s not better than or equal to what their idol did? Just using RCA’s worldwide 1M announcement last week, weren’t there post after post about that not really being an accomplishment because so and so and so and so didn’t need worldwide sales?? Or how it wasn’t an accomplishment because of the promo he received?? Everybody spins stuff to favor their idol. Same stuff, different day.

I think it would be cool to think we could do without all of it for every idol, but I can’t see it ever happening. People love to celebrate and criticize. Opposite ends, each as popular.

LOL, gotcha Kirsten (imagining Kirsten drafting funny disclaimer about use of the word “seriously” for her next snarkfest). Sorry I didn’t get the gist. The other stuff was pretty funny though, as was “cut the cheese”. Always humor in a good fart reference.

Just using RCA’s worldwide 1M announcement last week, weren’t there post after post about that not really being an accomplishment because so and so and so and so didn’t need worldwide sales??

ETA:

Don’t we hear about Carrie beating everyone’s butt on album sales, radio spins, and tour dollars, as well as her gross income? I’ve read many other fans posting their fave idol’s milestone/accomplishments (as insignificant as it might be to others) here.

“And fans of other Idols blah blah blah.”

Y’all are completely missing AND illustrating the point I’m making.

Is it really that important that Adam kick every fellow Idol’s butt in every possible way? Isn’t it enough that he’s earning a nice living doing what he loves?

Don’t we hear about Carrie beating everyone’s butt on album sales, radio spins, and tour dollars, as well as her gross income? I’ve read many other fans posting their fave idol’s milestone/accomplishments (as insignificant as it might be to others) here.

Awww..how sweet!!

MichaelSarver1 I’m a very happy dude right now. Just recieved my record in the mail! Major smiles!
33 minutes ago via Echofon

theMrsSarver So proud of you @michaelsarver1 !!! First copy of his new album! Congrats my bebe!!!! http://tweetphoto.com/34414968
13 minutes ago via Echofon

The Truth had another good update this morning

HOT AC

+24 spins
+27 Bullet

POP

+4 spins
+10 bullet
+ 0.007 AI

aww, yay for Sarver. That’s so exciting!

mj:
07/23/2010 at 1:27 pm
Just using RCA’s worldwide 1M announcement last week, weren’t there post after post about that not really being an accomplishment because so and so and so and so didn’t need worldwide sales??

“And fans of other Idols blah blah blah.”

You are completely missing AND illustrating the point I’m making.

I’m not missing anything. I understand what you’re saying. I’m just saying I don’t see how it’s possible. You run a blog that’s based on a competition. To suddenly hope that the competition aspect is going to come out of the posts here is a pipedream in my opinion. Competition and comparisons are still being made to the 1st season of Idol which took place 9 years ago.

If you start modding so that competition and comparison is taken out of all the posts, then maybe eventually you wouldn’t need to do it anymore and everyone could just post celebratory posts without references to other idols and it would be bliss. Just can’t see it happening, but would be willing to experiment with the idea. Would be happy to, in fact.

Congrats to Michael Sarver, sounds like he’s about ready to burst with excitement.

Are you the next Adam Lambert or Carrie Underwood?

No, I’m the next Juanita Barber, idiots.

BestAI:
07/23/2010 at 1:27 pm

Don’t we hear about Carrie beating everyone’s butt on album sales, radio spins, and tour dollars, as well as her gross income? I’ve read many other fans posting their fave idol’s milestone/accomplishments (as insignificant as it might be to others) here.

Album sales and radio spins seem more pertinent than twitter followers to me, but to each his/her own. Speaking of insignificant, I think the contents of Adam’s diet (salad and vegetables you don’t say?) fits the bill.

Yes, I know that the RCA Ed is better than all the other Idol moderators

True. He is totally leading all other Idol mods in awesomeness and leaving the pack far, far behind.

ETA: Also, I think that Adam’s diet of salad and vegetables is nipping at Carrie’s heels as far as who has the healthiest eating habits out of all Idol stars.

How exciting for Sarver!

And I’m interested to hear Matt’s song too!

LOL FYE up to #910 on overall itunes. WHAT is causing this?

Y’all are completely missing AND illustrating the point I’m making.

Fear not, MJ, I believe the majority of your readers most definitely get the point you were trying to make.

Personally, I don’t care how much money any of them makes or how many awards they receive, I just want to be able to eat like Casey James and never gain an ounce.

Dude may never be a “superstar” or a “rock god” but his metabolism is the envy of all past and future Idols! I can’t think of another former contestant who surpasses his ability to break down fat and carbs and remain skinny as a rail.

Not to stir up a hornet’s nest or anything, but can someone give me a brief explanation of this thing about the AO mod using Kris’s avi to threaten posters with getting banned? I am confused. Why would he use a Kris avi and what prompted him to post this in the first place? I is confused (and still on a contact high from all that pot smoke at the BNL/Kris concert last night, so my brain is fuzzier than usual )

alaadam:
07/23/2010 at 1:46 pm
LOL FYE up to #910 on overall itunes. WHAT is causing this?

LOL! Let’s get it to #1! (That would be hilarious!) I think the AGT routine probably helped. That show has a pretty big summer audience, right?

I think the AO Mod is some young intern kid getting high off his own fumes and drunk with power because his every word is taken as if written on stone tablets behind the burning bush.

I is confused (and still on a contact high from all that pot smoke at the BNL/Kris concert last night, so my brain is fuzzier than usual )

LOL, I guess they need to re-name that place Reek Theatre!

Is it really that important that Adam kick every fellow Idol’s butt in every possible way? Isn’t it enough that he’s earning a nice living doing what he loves?

This constant one-upmanship from Idol fans is a drag, and is the genesis of fan wars. Really, seriously over it at this point.

v

I guess your view of one-upmanship and my view of being proud of an artist that I like is doing well is two totally different worlds. It is obvious that my views and enthusiasm does not fit in here anymore. I am done with this one sided sight. Please respectfully delete my account!

Keel:
07/23/2010 at 1:44 pm

ETA: Also, I think that Adam’s diet of salad and vegetables is nipping at Carrie’s heels as far as who has the healthiest eating habits out of all Idol stars.

Well it’s definitely not Big Mike and Casey with their late night sandwich escapades. I wonder what Timmy eats to maintain his abs?

LOL FYE up to #910 on overall itunes. WHAT is causing this?

Yeah, it’s AGT right now but I have said this before, FYE has almost always floated in and out of the #1000 range in the last few months. At that point in the chart, just the smallest of activity can give it a huge bump.

I think the AO Mod is some young intern kid getting high off his own fumes and drunk with power because his every word is taken as if written on stone tablets behind the burning bush.

Or some of us (meaning me) just find his motor mouth as a form of entertainment. I don’t go to AO, that place is impossible to navigate, but his posts make the rounds and they make me laugh.

No, I’m the next Juanita Barber, idiots.

what about the chirruns? ‘sob’

BestAI: Don’t we hear about Carrie beating everyone’s butt on album sales, radio spins, and tour dollars, as well as her gross income?

Not from her (few) fans on this blog. There’s a difference between pointing out a positive review/posting a statistic versus making a comment about how she’s leaving others far behind in this, that, or the other aspect.

Of course this just means Carrie fans are superior to other Idol fans because they feel the superiority of their Idol speaks for itself

No seriously that last paragraph was pure snark. Every last bit of it. Please don’t kill me. I don’t give two ****s about how any of the Idols I like are doing compared to others because the reality is they’ve got a long way to go before they’re the best they can be.

I is confused (and still on a contact high from all that pot smoke at the BNL/Kris concert last night, so my brain is fuzzier than usual )

I think BNL concerts have a rep for having lots of pot smoking fans. Hope your brain defuzzes soon!

Kanadie Bonttell:
I guess your view of one-upmanship and my view of being proud of an artist that I like is doing well is two totally different worlds. It is obvious that my views and enthusiasm does not fit in here anymore. I am done with this one sided sight. Please respectfully delete my account!

Awww, Kanadie. I’m really going to miss reading you. Adam is one of the most loved, and unfortunately, the most disliked idol in all the seasons. I see (read) it everyday. I hurt for him when I read hurtful things about him, esp when I know he is such a good person.

I is confused (and still on a contact high from all that pot smoke at the BNL/Kris concert last night, so my brain is fuzzier than usual )

LOL are you saying that Kris fans smoke pot? j/k I read the Kris concert thread.. it sounds like you had a reallygreat time.. so happy for you. Hopefully that makes up for the emotional beating you took in the #s thread yesterday.

Album sales and radio spins seem more pertinent than twitter followers to me, but to each his/her own. Speaking of insignificant, I think the contents of Adam’s diet (salad and vegetables you don’t say?) fits the bill.

Aaaaand….Here we go!

I’m sure this thread is being cut and pasted and thoroughly discussed on another blog as we speak! Not even going to bother to look.

idolprocrastinator:
07/23/2010 at 1:58 pm
Keel:
07/23/2010 at 1:44 pm

ETA: Also, I think that Adam’s diet of salad and vegetables is nipping at Carrie’s heels as far as who has the healthiest eating habits out of all Idol stars.

Well it’s definitely not Big Mike and Casey with their late night sandwich escapades. I wonder what Timmy eats to maintain his abs?

I think you can count out Danny (late night binging) and Scott (chocolate cake and endless descriptions of his restaurant meals) out too. BUT…maybe Cookie wins the nonfat yogurt prize, hasn’t he lost alot of tummy lately?

I think BNL concerts have a rep for having lots of pot smoking fans. Hope your brain defuzzes soon!

I was at Red Rocks, and can personally vouch for this. The aroma was immediate, and I mean immediate, once BNL took the stage. Didn’t let up all night, we were all laughing about it. BTW, I was also at Lilith Fair in Denver the night after Kris’ Red Rocks show, and even Sarah McLachlan cracked a joke about the aroma at Lilith. Maybe some BNL fans were there!

I guess your view of one-upmanship and my view of being proud of an artist that I like is doing well is two totally different worlds. It is obvious that my views and enthusiasm does not fit in here anymore. I am done with this one sided sight. Please respectfully delete my account!

Well, you know you have a point. You are enthusiastic, and decidedly un-passive aggressive in your enthusiasms.

“Go Adam! Kick some ass!” is way more honest than “Ohh….poor poor Jordin! She’s no longer in the lead! I’m not really a fan of Jordin…but I feel so sorry for her! What happened to the fans that voted for her? Why aren’t they all following her?”

Kidding aside, my response to your post was a general query to everyone. Today, after yesterday’s cluster-f*ck in the stats post, and some of the things I’m reading on other blogs (and in my email in-box) I’m just feeling really really doubtful about this whole enterprise.

I’m at a point where I’m re-thinking EVERYTHING.

I am done with this one sided sight.

That’s hilarious. Do you know that my blog was recently called “The Other Planet Fierce?” All the fans think I’m biased against their favorite. I’m not going to win that game, ever.

Congrats to Carrie on another number one hit. That girl…impressive!

Keel:
07/23/2010 at 2:08 pm

I is confused (and still on a contact high from all that pot smoke at the BNL/Kris concert last night, so my brain is fuzzier than usual )

I think BNL concerts have a rep for having lots of pot smoking fans. Hope your brain defuzzes soon!

Went to the Denver glamnation concert and during intermission went to the restroom (ugh, single women’s restroom on the main floor) and when the woman in front of me came out the door, the strongest gust of pot smoke came out with her. (She also came out asking people to help her zip up her dress which apparently she had felt the need to take completely off to go to the bathroom). Saw her later that night puffing away on a joint on the sidewalk in front of the venue with some bicycle cops on their way up the street..lol.

Well it’s definitely not Big Mike and Casey with their late night sandwich escapades. I wonder what Timmy eats to maintain his abs?

Why should Casey have to subsist on lettuce and diet soda when his god-given metabolism is superior to everyday mortals and his fellow Idol contestants?

I’m sure this thread is being cut and pasted and thoroughly discussed on another blog as we speak! Not even going to bother to look.

Where’s that? I honestly don’t know, I pretty much check here and pulse and twitter for stuff.

I like blurbs of lots other idol news, I wouldn’t have found out about Matt’s new single without coming here, so thanks mj. Do we know anything about the song? Has he performed it anywhere and I missed the performance on You tube?

Just saw the update for Kris’s HAC radio numbers today, w00t! as the young people of 1997 would say.

Do we know anything about the song? Has he performed it anywhere and I missed the performance on You tube?

Matt has performed the song a few times, I believe. I went looking for it on You Tube but couldn’t find it.

Maybe there are Matt fans who can point the way?

Aaaaand….Here we go!

I’m sure this thread is being cut and pasted and thoroughly discussed on another blog as we speak! Not even going to bother to look.

Sorry MJ, just a little bit of snark. I’m always interested in what kinds of diets these celebrities use to stay fit.

Regarding the Adam twitter thing. That’s great for him that he’s amassed such a huge following. I’m sure his huge international following contributes to his large number of followers. As we see with Jordin however, twitter followers does not necessarily equal album sales or radio spins.

Why would Matt’s radio release be before the itunes purchase date? I’ve been watching Archie’s new song and it’s great that it’s been out on itunes before the official radio adds date, creating interest. I’m not sure I get the reverse logic. Have people hear it and then purchase all at once?

I’m sure his huge international following contributes to his large number of followers.

See now I didn’t even think about that. ITA, Twitter =/= sales, but I find it an interesting tidbit of info.

I think the AO Mod is some young intern kid

I heard somewhere he’s 28? I hope that’s not true. That’s not a kid, or even that young. That means he’s older than David Cook, Kris Allen, and all of this season’s contestants. That makes him older than me, and I have a real job. DISCLAIMER: RCA Ed cracks me up and I heart his (unintentionally?) hilarious posts, and I am not judging him for his decision to be an RCA intern at 28, if indeed, that is his age and title. He seems to enjoy his job, and if he’s personally satisfied with his life, that’s all we can really wish for, right? I just remember being surprised when someone said he was 28.

I’m at a point where I’m re-thinking EVERYTHING.

Aww, MJ, sorry you’re getting crazy emails and stuff, but a lot of us are perfectly happy here, so I hope you realize a lot of us appreciate what you do and the way you run things.

idolprocrastinator:
07/23/2010 at 2:31 pm
Regarding the Adam twitter thing. That’s great for him that he’s amassed such a huge following. I’m sure his huge international following contributes to his large number of followers. As we see with Jordin however, twitter followers does not necessarily equal album sales or radio spins.

I think Jordin has to reinvent herself. She needs to pick material that she believes in and can relate to personally. Time away doing other things like television or Broadway will give her time to mature and live a little. Later she come back and make another album.

Kidding aside, my response to your post was a general query to everyone. Today, after yesterday’s cluster-f*ck in the stats post, and some of the things I’m reading on other blogs (and in my email in-box) I’m just feeling really really doubtful about this whole enterprise.

I’m at a point where I’m re-thinking EVERYTHING.

And, in all seriousness, I think it’s wise to rethink it. Idol competitiveness and one-upmanship will never go away. It will just shift around a little bit from year to year. The passion that causes it is also what gives idol sites the most hits.

Maybe you could find someone else to manage and mod the site for a week and go on vacation. Or, if nothing else, disable all comments for a weekend and see if you’re still feeling dragged down by it all after bit of a break. If not, a life change may be what the Dr. ordered.

Be well.

Matt has performed the song a few times, I believe. I went looking for it on You Tube but couldn’t find it.

Maybe there are Matt fans who can point the way?

I believe I have seen every last Youtube video that exists with Matt in it, and heard just about every interview, and no one I know of has heard this song or has any idea what it sounds like. At one point, Matt said in an interview something to the effect that it was a power pop ballad that expresses gratitude for everything good in his life.

For future reference, there are 11 or so original Matt songs that Matt has performed and many more (another 20 or so?) no one has heard. One centralized youtube channel for this is http://www.youtube.com/mattgiraudfans.

There is a rumor going around that he will perform a 12th new song tomorrow night called, “Motel”.

26,000 might be a conservative estimate – I heard there were more like 12,000 people in Milwaukee. After adjusting for rounding, that puts the total at about 29,000.

The highest reasonable estimate would be to include the local contests leading to Nashville and Milwaukee, which would put the auditioner count at about 31,000 so far.

Last year after two cities we weren’t even at 20,000.

I think there is a higher number of auditioners this year because they took one look at who won S9 and said “Shoot, I can sing better than that!” and decided to give it a try.

Today, after yesterday’s cluster-f*ck in the stats post, and some of the things I’m reading on other blogs (and in my email in-box) I’m just feeling really really doubtful about this whole enterprise.

I’m sorry to hear that mj. I didn’t get to read the concert stats thread yesterday until after the lock and cleanup so I’m not sure what happened. although based on your comments I can read between the lines.

A day or two ago we were talking about music videos helping a song. Has anyone seen Xtina’s new video for her ballad? I’m not sure it’s gonna help radio pick it up. It’s kinda boring. She looks pretty though.

I think if you check any of the Idols who are on twitter, you would see that most of them steadily gain followers every week. Adam’s leap in numbers are more dramatic in that department, to be sure, but Kris went from something like 100K when the AI tour ended to more than 192K now, and Danny has also seen a significant gain in followers since last year. I don’t follow most of the others, but I would bet that Kelly, Jordin, Cook, Lee and Archie (and possibly some of the others) all gain a steady stream of followers every week as well. So while this is exciting for Adam and his fans, it’s not unique to former Idols, and I don’t know how much real impact it has in terms of sales/concert revenue, etc. But it’s a fun thing, so it’s all good

Ooh, did Archie get a haircut or just spike it up? I like it.

About the pot… pretty much every big concert I attend smells like pot, even indoor ones with lots of kids. Well, okay, maybe not the two AI ones, I’ve been to haha. But yeah, generally, there’s always a ton of pot smoke at concerts, unless it’s the smaller, tiny club shows where it would be way too obvious to smoke anything indoors.

Oh, and I’m kind of impressed that Adam has surpassed Jordin in twitter followers. She’s been on probably the longest of all the Idols, right? I don’t know what it means, but it’s an interesting stat.

P.S. This was cute, did anyone see this? David went to see Kris and BNL last night.

#ainow: One of the folks we gave free tickets to last night got to meet @thedavidcook after @krisallen took to the stage. http://twitpic.com/27wu0i

I think if you check any of the Idols who are on twitter, you would see that most of them steadily gain followers every week.

While that’s true for Kris, I don’t actually think it is true for the many of the other S8 Idols. I don’t have the numbers at hand, but taking a quick look they really don’t seem all that far off from what they were right after summer tour ended. That’s why it’s while it may not be connected at all to sales, it’s really nice to see the numbers increasing for Kris and Adam. Those new people are likely outside the average Idol fan.

Caden:
07/23/2010 at 2:58 pm
I think there is a higher number of auditioners this year because they took one look at who won S9 and said “Shoot, I can sing better than that!” and decided to give it a try.

It probably did encourage more people to come out. Statistics show after a bad Idol season, you have a really good season.

#ainow: One of the folks we gave free tickets to last night got to meet @thedavidcook after @krisallen took to the stage. http://twitpic.com/27wu0i

Aww, lucky girl! David’s looking good!

I’m at a point where I’m re-thinking EVERYTHING.

Aww, MJ, sorry you’re getting crazy emails and stuff, but a lot of us are perfectly happy here, so I hope you realize a lot of us appreciate what you do and the way you run things.

MJ, please don’t change!!! your blog is perfect in my eyes. I am not going anywhere else, I like it here
Just the right amount of snark every once in a while is good for the soul! And “my idol pees better, than you idol” is healthy to stay grounded . I have tried other blogs once or twice (tucks tail in shame – small hippo tail) AND ALWAYS come back here yay!

Sounds like Brian M is going to be interviewing Kris today (Kris is in Nashville to do flood relief benefit concert tonight)

usatodayidol

#So if I were to interview Kris Allen this afternoon, what do you think I ought to ask him? 7 minutes ago via web

I’m at a point where I’m re-thinking EVERYTHING.

I like this blog a lot, but it does feel as though something’s gone off the rails a bit these past few months.

On Kanadie’s farewell: Even as a Cook fan, I always found it hilarious when in the few months after S7, other Cook fans would loudly complain (whether here or elsewhere) that this blog was just “being mean and unfair” to Cook. Now it’s Adam fans doing the same thing and I am just as hilariously fascinated by it. Life outside a fanboard can be a real adjustment I guess.

I truly believe people who are saying “poor Jordin” are sincere (unless they happen to be Blake’s fans). She is a really sweet girl with an extraordinary voice. She’s sold lots of albums and singles, and there’s no reason why any of us would not want her to be successful in every way.

As far as her twitter followers, I believe she gained buttloads during the period she opened for the Jonas Brothers (and possibly Britney too). And yes, twitter followers does not equate album sales.

usatodayidol

#So if I were to interview Kris Allen this afternoon, what do you think I ought to ask him?

Brian, please ask him if and when TT music video will be completed? *anxious for news*

On Kanadie’s farewell: Even as a Cook fan, I always found it hilarious when in the few months after S7, other Cook fans would loudly complain (whether here or elsewhere) that this blog was just “being mean and unfair” to Cook.

I think Kanadie joined mj’s after I did, and I only joined after S8 season was over, so I don’t have anything to compare to.

I will miss Kanadie. I thought he was very bright and informative. I really did apreciatae his insights about Las Vegas.

I agree with mj. The fan wars need to stop here in my opinion. This should be a neutral ground where ALL Idols are respected, even if you don’t like them.

“my idol pees better, than you idol”

lol (as much as things change, they remain the same)

The fan wars need to stop here in my opinion.

Well, yeah, that would be nice. I don’t get the point of fanwars anyway. It’s not like the Idol is your brother (well, not for most of us) and you’re defending the family honor. It just is not such a big deal. Though snark is cool. I vastly enjoy snark. Not mean stuff for the sake of being a jerk, but snark. I always think back to our epic Cook/Lana Jade thread… that was awesome. *Wistful*

She’s sold lots of albums and singles, and there’s no reason why any of us would not want her to be successful in every way.

Well, there’s always a reason. There are always people who don’t like certain Idols, and that’s cool. That’s the way it is here, and most of us like it. It’s just that right now, we don’t see a lot of people crapping on Jordin because commenters here these days either mildly like and/or root for her, or don’t seem to care about her that much. But there was a time when people consistently complained about how irritating she seems, or how she doesn’t have name recognition despite her singles’ successes, etc. She got a lot of heat here when she made that unfortunate comment about sluts when defending the JoBro promise rings against Russell Brand during the.. MTV Awards was it? Anyway, a lot of these things come in waves, I guess. It’s okay not to like all the Idols– I think we’ll always have some posters who actively dislike each of the various Idols, and that’s cool. It’s just when things escalate into fanwars that it becomes a problem.

As far as her twitter followers, I believe she gained buttloads during the period she opened for the Jonas Brothers (and possibly Britney too).

Heh. Buttloads? C’mon now BestAI, fess up. You’re really RCAEd, right? *snerk*

While that’s true for Kris, I don’t actually think it is true for the many of the other S8 Idols. I don’t have the numbers at hand, but taking a quick look they really don’t seem all that far off from what they were right after summer tour ended.

I’ve been keeping up with the S8 Top 10 numbers monthly since last summer. Adam, Kris, Danny and Allison are the only ones who have been gaining consistently. Matt has just about held even while the others have been slowly losing followers.

As far as her twitter followers, I believe she gained buttloads during the period she opened for the Jonas Brothers (and possibly Britney too).

Do you have the stats to prove that? Or are you just guessing? Because I think Jordin does a really good job of connecting to her fans. I would not dismiss her ability to attract twitter followers so easily.

I’m not going to win that game, ever.

But, isn’t it best just to recognize that and keep on doing what you do?

As a fan of many Idols, I hate the fan wars. The Idols hate the fan wars. I do like to root for my Idols with the best of them though. Yeah for Adds! Stuff like that. Maybe I should curb a little of that. As for S8, I am grateful to mj for allowing threads for Kris, Alli and Adam’s tour performances.

I’m excited to hear the S7 albums this fall and I hope mj’s is here for it!
I’m perfectly capable of scrolling past posts about Idols that I don’t follow. I’m not a Jordin fan, but I do feel for her when it comes to concert stats. Maybe this Broadway gig will be a nice break from the radio recording industry and give her a chance to grow.

I’m excited to discuss the S7 albums coming out in the fall.

But, isn’t it best just to recognize that and keep on doing what you do?

Typically, by November, I’m so fed up with the fan wars, I’m about to lose my mind. But, I know that the new season of Idol is just around the corner, and a reboot is coming.

This year, Season 9 tanked, and there was no reboot. We’re just left with the same fans fighting over the same shit. Ad nauseum.

Season 8 ended 14 months ago, and there seems to be no end in sight. The whole “The wrong person won” meme only makes it worse, way worse. This is NOT a typical year, and as someone upthread said, things feel like they’re going off the rails lately.

mj:
07/23/2010 at 2:20 pm

Today, after yesterday’s cluster-f*ck in the stats post, and some of the things I’m reading on other blogs (and in my email in-box) I’m just feeling really really doubtful about this whole enterprise.

I’m at a point where I’m re-thinking EVERYTHING.

MJ, just wanted to say that although I don’t post here very often, I really appreciate all of the information that you provide about AI, as well as other shows like SYTYCD and Glee. It sounds like the past few days have been very frustrating for you, but I hope that you don’t give up your blog. Maybe it’s time to consider a few changes, like not allowing comments on certain posts (that’s what nytimes.com does). In any event, thanks for all the entertainment and info — I’ve spent many fun hours here! I hope you stick around!

This year, Season 9 tanked, and there was no reboot. We’re just left with the same fans fighting over the same shit. Ad nauseum.

Season 8 ended 14 months ago, and there seems to be no end in sight. The whole “The wrong person won meme” only makes it worse, way worse.

Curious- when did the S5 fanwars (I hear they were legend- wait for it- dary) stop? Wasn’t S6 kind of a tank season as well, and S5 a “wrong person won” season? Or were there more S6 fans than S9?

I am a fairly new poster but have been lurking here since Adam’s audition back in 2009. What I am reading now is no different than what I was reading back then only with different idols. I just think everyone is taking everything too seriously. “It’s not that deep” once said by someone.

I find what works for me is I like to read about Adam but really not interested in some of the other idols so I don’t read about them. I guess I pick and choose what I want to read and I leave other postings for those people that are interested in that subject. I also like the media postings and the concert or record stats and I love all the concert videos but posting anything negative about any other idol is not for me even though I have read other very snarky remarks in Adam’s postings. I realize this is not a fan site but if you don’t like a particular idol or something he or she has done or whatever then why you don’t post something positive for the idol you do like.

I don’t see these as fanwars just people with very strong emotional opinions.

Well, General Hospital is using Adam’s version of Mad World again today. James Franco is back on the show and it’s his character’s theme song apparently. YAY! for more Adam on my tv.

HaHa. Funny that we were talking about Adam’s eating…

http://sanfrancisco.grubstreet.com/2010/07/adam_lambert_enjoys_a_late_sup.html

Curious- when did the S5 fanwars (I hear they were legend- wait for it- dary) stop? Wasn’t S6 kind of a tank season as well, and S5 a “wrong person won” season? Or were there more S6 fans than S9?

LOL – the fanwars never stop – they just go dormant. But, I bet right now there’s a soul patroller lurking about waiting for a chance to pounce on a negative Daughtry post .

Actually, Season 6, while maybe a little lackluster on TV, was still fun around these parts. That cast of characters gave us a lot of interesting stuff to talk about. And, even though it wasn’t the strongest Top 10, the tour that year was pretty entertaining. It definitely encouraged a lot more response than the Season 9 tour has so far.

This year, Season 9 tanked, and there was no reboot. We’re just left with the same fans fighting over the same shit. Ad nauseum.

Yeah, I can see that. Old fanwars never die, but at least they get buried under the excitement of a new season. This year,I don’t think people had enough passion for any of the Idols to bother with fanwars. So, we’re left with last year’s left overs.

There’s always season 10! At least this lackluster season didn’t affect people turning up to audition for next year. The crowd numbers look good.

I agree with mj. The fan wars need to stop here in my opinion. This should be a neutral ground where ALL Idols are respected, even if you don’t like them.

Well I hate the fanwars. Soooo annoying and soooo dull, and I haven’t even been here for them all, or trying to corral the crap, like mj has. So, she is a far far better woman, than I for doing so.

As an aside, I will say one of the things I like about mj’s is that it’s not a fansite, so we don’t all have to be nice about all the idols, all the time. The fellow fans, and mj’s rules are to be respected, but that doesn’t necessarily translate to only respecting/saying nice things about the idols themselves.

Anyhew, as to not too blog on blog (and so following those rules ) that Ruben Clay piece was cute. I hope their tour does well.

‘American Idol’: David Archuleta’s ‘Something ‘Bout Love’ video shoot
By Andrea Reiher
July 23, 2010 3:20 PM ET

“America Idol” runner-up David Archuleta is hard at work preparing for his next album, “The Other Side of Down,” due out Sept. 14. When the album drops, there is a regular CD version, a CD/DVD version and then Deluxe Fan edition that includes a memory box, a picture window, four pictures of Archie (one initialed by him), a friendship bracelet and a free mp3 download of the first single, “Something ‘Bout Love.”

The single went on sale Tuesday, July 20 and the video is forthcoming. Archie has posted some behind-the-scenes info and pictures from the video shoot. There is no word yet on a tour for “The Other Side of Down,” and Archuleta did just come off a book signing tour for his “Chords of Strength” memoir. But his website does say “stay tuned for more great news” regarding the album, so perhaps he will be touring in 2011.

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/07/american-idol-david-archuletas-something-bout-love-video-shoot.html

According to tweets, Tommy has joined the Glam Nation tour as planned in SF.

And in the spirit of good-hearted fun, snark, or BSC, there’s a glowstick flashmob planned for tonight. Have fun!

http://sfglamnation.com/FlashMob.html

About the pot… pretty much every big concert I attend smells like pot, even indoor ones with lots of kids.

True for me too, and it was quite, uh, fragrant at the BNL concert last night. Oddly enough, the only concert I can remember going to in years and years where I didn’t smell pot was the Cook concert at Morongo this past February. I doubt this has anything to do with Cook or his fans but may have more to do with casino venues, possibly? I have no idea, as that’s the first one I’ve been to for a concert. I will say the *cigarette* smoke in the casino itself was so thick I could barely see to the end of the room and I thought I was going to have an asthma attack just walking through there to get to the venue.

MJ: I’m at a point where I’m re-thinking EVERYTHING.

I don’t blame you. Like Keel mentioned, I’ve noticed a real uptick in the nature of the hostilities in the last few months too. In a mixed internet environment (as opposed to fan strongholds where group think is enforced) there will always be snark (a good thing) and competitiveness (not such a good thing, but inevitable), but some days there’s so much bait being thrown out here* it’s like wandering into a seafood restaurant.

*And this is fresh, local bait, btw, not shipped in from elsewhere.

LOL – the fanwars never stop – they just go dormant. But, I bet right now there’s a soul patroller lurking about waiting for a chance to pounce on a negative Daughtry post .

Oh come on SpenserJ, what about Kat? The Daughtry hate was pretty mild compared to the Kat stuff. Ah, those were the days.

Ruben and Clay’s tour should be a lot of fun. I like this blog. I always get information on all the Idols. Unfortunately fan wars have been in place since Season 1 and don’t seem to be going anywhere. I supports Idols I like and wish the others well in their careers.

Interview with Jordin. It does seem like she’s trying to figure things out. She’s young, it may take time.

http://www.beatweek.com/coverstory/6795-jordin-sparks-interview/

And in the spirit of good-hearted fun, snark, or BSC, there’s a glowstick flashmob planned for tonight. Have fun!

OMG! Snark is right. All you need to read is “Choreographed Glow Stick routine” and you just start laughing uncontrolably. Then, when you realize that it’s all written by someone older than 12, well the laughing fit hits about defcon 5. I could make fun of this all day, way too easy.

Oh come on SpenserJ, what about Kat? The Daughtry hate was pretty mild compared to the Kat stuff. Ah, those were the days.

LOL – see, my McPhee hate used to run so deep that at some point, I just erased her existence from my mind. The Daughtry shit was hilarious because of all the BSC AI fans I’ve ever witnessed, there was one Daughtry fan who was the most BSC of them all (and, that’s saying something in Idol-Land). I never say that fan name for fear that she’ll show back up like the Candyman.

Well, I’m an old poster from back in the day. And I’ve seen fan wars galore. However by the time a season is a year old and especially once the new Summer tour states, the old nonsense is done. The die hards move on to new Idols, learn to laugh at the Idol sillines or vanish to fan sites (I guess).

What’s weird is that S9 has not followed the usual program. So we’re left in S8 deja vu. Plus peeps need laugh at this stuff. Why so serious, Shirley.

Okay, please explain this to me. A longterm poster celebrated (in a very straightforward manner)Adam’s twitter #s, and all of a sudden the competition is unbearable. The reaction does not seem to match the action, to me. What have I missed?

Just want to say that I think there’s always a silent majority here who, when things get out of hand, just know to keep a lid on it and that eventially it will pass. It always does. Take heart MJ and take heart all

Hooray MJ! I could careless to read all the BS about someone/something that is not on topic. I don’t open it if its not my interest, and then its frustrating if tons of comments about another Idol not in the headline.
As long as I can still read all the commentary about Cook’s hair or date for the evening I am a happy camper.

Yes, the Kat hate. Even fans that hated each other united to hate her. But it didn’t go on for two years. Maybe it did and I blotted it out. Thank God Twitter didn’t exist back then or it would have been a blood bath.

But I understand the fatigue with idol fan wars. S10 is still six months away. Ugh.

That glowstick thing is hilarious and I hope someone films it. When you realize the whole thing is part of pre-concert party organized by a group of San Francisco drag queens who are huge Adam fans it makes it all that much more fun!! The fact that they opened the party to people of all ages, gender and sexualities, and got radio station sponsorship, it seems like a good time celebrating the concert! YAY for celebrating!

http://www.sfglamnation.com/NEWS.html

vistadiva: Drag Queens are doing fans make-up for tonight’s GlamNation..false eyelashes, bindis, glitter. Adam will be in heaven!

Videos could be interesting tonight between the makeup and glowstick flashmob

Just want to say that I think there’s always a silent majority here who, when things get out of hand, just know to keep a lid on it and that eventially it will pass. It always does. Take heart MJ and take heart all

Agreed.

pattycake:
07/23/2010 at 5:39 pm

As long as I can still read all the commentary about Cook’s hair or date for the evening I am a happy camper.

LMAO This made me laugh out loud. All I could think about was the Lana Jade night and the night David tweeted the picture of the pork chop dinner. Good times.

Well, General Hospital is using Adam’s version of Mad World again today. James Franco is back on the show and it’s his character’s theme song apparently. YAY! for more Adam on my tv.

I finally, finally got to see that today. I miss seeing Adam on my TV. I hope there are some appearances coming up somewhere besides reruns.

What is Cookie’s dating situation these days anyway?

Glowsticks — the mother’s milk of snark back in the day.

sr4mjc:
07/23/2010 at 5:02 pm
Interview with Jordin. It does seem like she’s trying to figure things out. She’s young, it may take time.

http://www.beatweek.com/coverstory/6795-jordin-sparks-interview/

Am I wrong in thinking she don’t have any idea of where she belongs in the music business? She said something about R&B, maybe that’s something she needs to consider. I guess if Jennifer Hudson can think about doing a album with a euro pop sound, Jordin can try some R&B.

This is last minute. But my friend has an extra ticket to tonight’s Adam show. Lower balcony 6, row m. If you or your friend can make it, just email me at patience622@yahoo.com. I will email the ticket to you. I should be checking my email till 4:30pm.

Another silent majority member who is patiently waiting for the drama to die down to enjoy the snarky and intelligent discussion on all the idols. FWIW, I don’t think the concert threads are helping fans to move on to the next season or to fan boards.

I’m a little more hopeful for the next season — there seems to be more participation in the cattle call rounds. I’m definitely interested in the new judge.

Am I wrong in thinking she don’t have any idea of where she belongs in the music business?

That’s how it read to me. Battlefield was chosen by A&R as a hit, she ‘tried’ dance music. Now maybe R&B after the Broadway run. Or the movie version of In The Heights. She’s still young, but I think that disconnect is why she doesn’t seem to be able to build a dedicated fanbase.

I don’t think the concert threads are helping fans to move on to the next season or to fan boards.

I really appreciate them though for videos. I refuse to go to AO, it’s nuts there. Does Kris’s site post videos?

One of the Preparty organizers was actually Ustreaming while handing out flyers to the line waiting at the Warfield. He was very, very excited, should be a intresting night there!!

SR4MJC- We will likely never know. After all that hoopla over shanks, Scene Queens, and Crushed Cougars, he will likely become
celibrate. It made for fun reading for me though.

CMT.com has a fairly long article/interview with Michael Sarver.

http://www.cmt.com/news/country-music/1644342/american-idols-michael-sarver-talks-about-being-the-new-guy-in-country.jhtml

Glowsticks — the mother’s milk of snark back in the day

Remember the 10,000 glowsticks that got confiscated at the LA concert? Poor Kat fans couldn’t catch a break that year.

MJ: I’m at a point where I’m re-thinking EVERYTHING.

This has been a really rough year, but I hope you stick it out (for selfish reasons).

Okay, please explain this to me. A longterm poster celebrated (in a very straightforward manner)Adam’s twitter #s, and all of a sudden the competition is unbearable. The reaction does not seem to match the action, to me. What have I missed?

I think it’s the proverbial “straw that broke the camel’s back”.

I am a little surprised that mj and some posters are feeling like things have “gone off the rails” around here. I really thought things were fairly tame around here lately. Sure, there is competitiveness, snark, whatever but nothing too bad. I mean, compared to how things were around here after the Adam’s throne/plumed hat picture, his album cover, and let’s not forget the “AMA’s” it has been comparatively pleasant around here LOL! That period of time was rough! The snark and meanness levels were off the charts then and it didn’t seem like much was done to check it. I didn’t mind much because I just didn’t go to those headlines and made full use of my scroll button. I don’t know, having survived that period, I thought things were pretty calm, haha.

SR4MJC- We will likely never know. After all that hoopla over shanks, Scene Queens, and Crushed Cougars, he will likely become
celibrate. It made for fun reading for me though.

lol, I doubt he’s celibate. But I understand the need to keep it very private. There’s one situation where the married Idols have it much easier.

As long as I can still read all the commentary about Cook’s hair or date for the evening I am a happy camper.

LOL, ditto. But I posted that fan pic of David, and NO ONE commented on the fact that his beard is getting totally out of control (is Andy the only one doing the strike recording beard or is David doing it too?), or that his hair seems to be really high…? I’m disappointed =P.

What is Cookie’s dating situation these days anyway?

As much fun as we’ve had in the past, at this point, I’m afraid fans will be the last to know. Dude sat next to a random chick at the UFC fight, and the obsessives saw it on TV, and went nuts getting all jealous trying to figure out who she was. It was kind of… scary. And sad. Guy can’t SIT next to a girl without people going crazy. I mean, c’mon, he’s not dating any of us… ever. I’ll be the first to admit I’m curious for gossipy reasons, but I just don’t get those over-reactions.

Glowsticks — the mother’s milk of snark back in the day

Remember the 10,000 glowsticks that got confiscated at the LA concert? Poor Kat fans couldn’t catch a break that year.

Okay, now you got me curious. Let’s hear the story.

Okay, please explain this to me. A longterm poster celebrated (in a very straightforward manner)Adam’s twitter #s, and all of a sudden the competition is unbearable. The reaction does not seem to match the action, to me. What have I missed?

Right there with ya.

TBH, maybe we should all pitch in and send MJ on a non-Idol (or reality TV) related vacation. That seems to me to be the ticket! (Hawaii would be great, but Adam is touring there, so that’s out. Damn that guy! Ruining the isles for the rest of us.)

Should I have started either of those sentences with “Seriously.” It’s unclear to me how that term is used here these days.

Because S9 tanked, Adam gets the same Kat-hate two-years in a row? Oh, lucky fans.

Glowsticks — the mother’s milk of snark back in the day.

The only thing that beats Glowsticks is a puffy paint shirt.

Remember the 10,000 glowsticks that got confiscated at the LA concert? Poor Kat fans couldn’t catch a break that year.

LOL Fun times.

I mean, compared to how things were around here after the Adam’s throne/plumed hat picture, his album cover, and let’s not forget the “AMA’s” it has been comparatively pleasant around here LOL! That period of time was rough! The snark and meanness levels were off the charts then and it didn’t seem like much was done to check it.

I love snarking on the Idols. In fact, sometimes I like to poke fun at them unmercifully. So, I’m a-okay with anybody making fun of Adam’s album cover, or Cook’s hair or Jordin’s dullness or McPhee’s, well McPhee’s anything I suppose. Ya know what sucks though? Faux “concern” about some aspect of someone’s career. Because, it’s not concern. It’s passive-agressive, fan-war baiting bullshit.

I’ve seen a lot of that around these parts lately, so I can see why people are kind of getting fed up. I just think people should flat out say what they mean. If they want to make fun of an idol for shitty numbers or something – just say that. No one is fooled by the phony concern.

And, in the spirit of that, what the hell is wrong with Clay’s face? Has he had a bunch of cosmetic surgery? He just looks so different to me. (I do however enjoy his sense of humor).

I’m not missing anything. I understand what you’re saying. I’m just saying I don’t see how it’s possible

It can be done if we all stop contributing to the problem.
Example, instead of stating that Adam is leaving the pack behind, just make a comment about his exciting twitter numbers without mention that he has/will have more than Idol A B or C.

I understand that DURING the competition, comparing contestants is a natural part of the ‘game’. But after they leave the show, it isn’t necessary. Nor is it necessary to do it because everyone else is doing it. What is this, grade school? LOL

A fun, normal way of talking about our idols: Idol A sold sold this much, great news. Not Idol A sold this much, to bad Idol B is barely getting radio play. (Lets get real, the fake concern isnt fooling anyone).

I think we are all smart, old enough to know when we write incite(ful) comments.

I am a little surprised that mj and some posters are feeling like things have “gone off the rails” around here. I really thought things were fairly tame around here lately

It think its fine for most of us since we’re not receiving the emails MJ has to deal with. I’ve read briefly about some of the trouble she gets on other boards, its a bit unnerving that people get this worked up over a show/random idol. Yikes! I look forward to Season 10 and XFactor??? Sorry if I missed any mention, but is MJ planning to cover it?

Because S9 tanked, Adam gets the same Kat-hate two-years in a row? Oh, lucky fans.

First of all, Adam gets nothing close to the level of unified vitriol that was thrown at Kat during and after season 5 here at Mj’s. Not even close. She was universally maligned. Nearly every day here there is at least one thread where Adam is showered with adoration. I do not see an overwhelming amount of Adam hate here at all.

And, even if that were the case, who cares if people hate Adam? Who cares if people make fun of him on a blog? He doesn’t read it. And, not everyone has to like him.

Because S9 tanked, Adam gets the same Kat-hate two-years in a row? Oh, lucky fans.

LOL. Kat had it x10000 worse than Adam ever did. Oh, and while we’re at it, so did Danny Gokey. But I guess you didn’t notice. I don’t see an overwhelming amount of Adam-hate here. And when it happens? There are so many of you–the hive descends and it’s drowned out. I don’t get the complaining. At all. This is the stuff that REALLY sets me off.

I love snarking on the Idols. In fact, sometimes I like to poke fun at them unmercifully. So, I’m a-okay with anybody making fun of Adam’s album cover, or Cook’s hair or Jordin’s dullness or McPhee’s, well McPhee’s anything I suppose. Ya know what sucks though? Faux “concern” about some aspect of someone’s career. Because, it’s not concern. It’s passive-agressive, fan-war baiting bullshit.

A big AMEN to this.

And, in the spirit of that, what the hell is wrong with Clay’s face? Has he had a bunch of cosmetic surgery?

And here I was thinking he’s looking better than usual — less bloated, less floppy hair.

ETA: The Danny hate was unbelievable here. I had to stop reading for awhile and I’m not even a fan.

Oh, and while we’re at it, so did Danny Gokey.

I still hate Danny. My hate has just grown into indifference, so I ignore all Danny news. But, I can go back to actively hating on him, if you think that will improve things .

ETA:

And here I was thinking he’s looking better than usual — less bloated, less floppy hair.

The hair is better – that floppy look was heinous. But still, his face just looks really weird to me. I can’t pinpoint why, but something is definitely off.

Remember the 10,000 glowsticks that got confiscated at the LA concert? Poor Kat fans couldn’t catch a break that year.

Okay, now you got me curious. Let’s hear the story.

Kat was getting tonnes of abuse, missed the first three weeks of the AI tour due to illness and then broke her foot. To try to show their support, Kat fans decided to collect money so that they could hand out 10,000 glow sticks in her tour colour (orange, IIRC) for the LA concert (which was her home town). The Staples security staff caught them distributing the glow sticks and confiscated them because the venue actually sold them so there was some rule about bulk glow sticks or some such nonense (they probably had no right to do what they did, but security guards will pretend that they do).

So, all that money and no show of support. As I said, the Kat fans could not catch a break.

But still, his face just looks really weird to me. I can’t pinpoint why, but something is definitely off.

Didn’t he have some sort of jaw surgery. I think I read that somewhere. To me, he looks chunky, but don’t get me wrong. I’m concerned about him, that’s all. LOL j/k

I didn’t watch Idol until Cook’s year, so any concern I express about S1 through S6 should be presumed to be fake. Except maybe Kelly, ’cause I truly like her and her December.

It think its fine for most of us since we’re not receiving the emails MJ has to deal with. I’ve read briefly about some of the trouble she gets on other boards, its a bit unnerving that people get this worked up over a show/random idol.

I don’t see much of the other stuff since I don’t really go other places, except DCO for info and Twitter for news, but what little I have seen baffles me. What I don’t get is that MJ is alternately accused of being an Adam-hating Kris-tard by Adam fans, a Kris hating Glambert by Kris fans, a Cook-hating Season 8-tard by Cook fans, and I don’t know what by other fandoms. LOL, how is that even possible? The hilarity is that MJ is just trying to run as neutral an Idol blog as possible, and if you’ve paid any attention at all, she’s clearly a fan of ALL of these guys, JUST NOT THEIR BSC FANS. People should just relax, back off MJ, and not try to view everything as a slight or aimed against your fave Idol.

So, all that money and no show of support. As I said, the Kat fans could not catch a break.

Wow, that is really sad. If Kat was really that reviled, I bet there were copious amounts of schadenfreude and/or concern trolling there…

Eh, never mind. This is what I get for being the world’s slowest typist.

The conversation has moved on. I will now join in on the snark about Cook’s hair. Heh.

ETA: Thanks wand3rful. You said everything I was trying to say and you were much more succinct. *g*

I guess for me one would need to define faux cncern. Just because I am not a ‘fan’ of an idol doesn’t mean that I can’t hand wring a little over any of them. There are a number of idols I am ‘concerned’ about because although I am not a fan doesn’t mean that I dont wish them well and in the worse case it minimizes the credibility of the franchise. These are all super kids, especially the ones that make to the top5 or so. I do honestly feel bad for the idols that are not do as well or that have been given the shaft for whatever reason. I often don’t mention or even on a nonfavorite merely because I don’t wish to envoke this belief in faux concern.

And, in the spirit of that, what the hell is wrong with Clay’s face? Has he had a bunch of cosmetic surgery? He just looks so different to me. (I do however enjoy his sense of humor).

Brace yourself: I just learned on this very blog the other day that he had some sort of jaw problem (can’t remember the initials) and had to have his jaw joints replaced with steel joints. Apparently, they are a bit wider than the original bones so that is why his face looks wider.

I’m seriously squeamish when it comes to joint replacements (I don’t like to think about peope with hammers and buzz saws monkeying with my skeleton). I hope never to need one.

I agree with MJ, I don’t see much Adam hate. If you don’t believe Adam is the best thing to music since Thomas Edison invented the record player, you better stay mum on the boards.
It doesn’t make for fun blogging nor is it good for his career. If you don’t believe me ask Clay Aiken.

Watched five seasons and all are a blur except S8. Never disliked anyone, but sorta liked Yamin (bought his CD). Downloaded some Daughtry, Cook, Sarver, Allison, Anoop, Castro, Danny, Kris, (any others? – can’t remember). Downloaded anything and everything could find of Adam – he’s why I’m here – the concert vids and links to reviews, pics, stats. MJ’s is my one-stop shopping place. Forever grateful.

his hair seems to be really high…? I’m disappointed =P.

It’s not Cook’s hair that’s high; it’s the ever increasing forehead. As we all know, he will someday be taller than his hair. *weeps*

As for the vitriol aimed at MJ, I don’t see it because I don’t see it. Like others have said, I come here and Twitter for scoop. That’s it. Occasionally I’ll check DCO or AO Events pages only to see if any appearances have been added, and that’s it. As someone said, I find those sites to be un-navigable. And, forget fan sites. MJ has all the videos, so there’s no need.

That said, if she/this blog take a beating elsewhere, that would totally suck for her. I get that. But, seriously (and I mean that seriously) can’t we chalk that up to marketplace competition and envy? This is the pristine Idol blog, hands down. And, curiously given this conversation, the only one that has any hope of credibly claiming any inkling of objectivity. So, I say, perspective.

Still, when it’s personal, it’s personal. Oddly enough, I was reading a NYTimes article today about how, in the day of the Web, nothing ever is forgotten. Now we have actual businesses designed to erase bad stuff and clear up reputations on the Internet. Maybe that’s something to consider if it gets really bad. Otherwise, I seriously (again, serious) renew my vacation suggestion above.

And, MJ, I wish you well.

Ah, okay. Thanks Kirsten. I did not know about the jaw thing (now, I actually feel kind of bad for making fun of him LOL). And, I’m with you on the joint replacement thing. Seriously creeps me out.

Wow, that is really sad. If Kat was really that reviled, I bet there were copious amounts of schadenfreude and/or concern trolling there…

With Kat, it was mostly just straight-forward hating. I think concern-trolling is a relatively new tactic .

I just think people should flat out say what they mean. If they want to make fun of an idol for shitty numbers or something – just say that. No one is fooled by the phony concern.

I can get on board with that, sort of. I cringe at personal attacks on physical features though, bad skin, hair, especially things like balding, weight issues and acne that are hard to deal with. I don’t participate in any of that stuff, because no one is perfect. I’m glad I’m not in HD for the world to judge.

I will call out an off-key performances really quick though!

Regarding Cook’s beard. I just seen the pic, and ouch!. Andy said he wasn’t shaving until the record is done, Neal tweeted that he was “combing” his beard and now I see Cookie. I guess they will look like ZZ top by their Busch Gardens show. What a shame, covering those beauiful faces. I’m sad.

Occasionally I’ll check DCO or AO Events pages only to see if any appearances have been added, and that’s it. As someone said, I find those sites to be un-navigable.

Also, they’re two of the ugliest sites ever to hit the interwebs. Someone on the RCA web design team deserves to be fired (or shot. I’m good either way.)

Clearly I’m way out of the loop these days. But, is there a new rule where we have to define how we’re using the word seriously? LOL

I do not see an overwhelming amount of Adam hate here at all.

I see a lot of Adam love around here NOW. He has had a measure of success and no “gates” lately for ammunition haha!. There was a time though that things were pretty ugly for Adam in just about any thread but since that was my first (and only) season following an idol I just thought that is the way things worked, LOL. Now the snark seems practically benign and the competitiveness is just kind of amusing. I was not here to experience the Kat-hate however, but I can only imagine what it was like if it was worse than the Adam um, experience haha.

Pattycake, I don’t, but it hardly ever comes up. Seems as if I just do a lot of scrolling. *chuckle*

I even missed Smallie’s post about the Beard Situation at Emblem Studios, and disappointed her expectations …which, BTW, I ‘think’ all the boyz are skipping the razor till the record is finished, but I don’t know for sure, Andy is the only one who announced it – when someone asked if he would look like a member of ZZTop at Busch Gardens, he said maybe. But that wasn’t scruff on David, that was a full red(ish) beard!

Eh, I think it’s a quirky solidarity, if they do – kinda sorta cute.

(How’s that, Smallie?)

Just because I am not a ‘fan’ of an idol doesn’t mean that I can’t hand wring a little over any of them. [...]I do honestly feel bad for the idols that are not do as well or that have been given the shaft for whatever reason. I often don’t mention or even on a nonfavorite merely because I don’t wish to envoke this belief in faux concern.

I wouldn’t worry about it. Honestly, concern trolling is REALLY obvious. If your concern is genuine and that’s what you want to post, just do it. I’m first to admit angst about David Cook plenty when the mood strikes, and I know lots other Cook fans do too, and who are not concern trolling our own fave . It’s the baiting/inciting posts, concern troll or otherwise that we’re talking about. And again, those are pretty obvious.

Eh, I think it’s a quirky solidarity, if they do – kinda sorta cute.

(How’s that, Smallie?)

I love it . I love also the quirky solidarity, so kinda hoping it’s true too . Can’t imagine Kyle with a beard though..

It’s not Cook’s hair that’s high; it’s the ever increasing forehead. As we all know, he will someday be taller than his hair. *weeps*

LMAO to infinity… I heart you right now

Ahhhh, Mj I heart you! It’s really hard if you’re rooting for the other gal (you know what I mean). As the saying goes “If you can’t beat them, join them !!! Ok, ok, fine. Dragging myself back to lurkdom again.

I think concern-trolling is a relatively new tactic .

Your memory is protecting you. You forget how “concerned” and “sympathetic” the “candyman” was when Taylor sold 3K fewer CDs than Daughtry in his first week and the great MJ meltdown of ought-six.

The “candyman” was an expert at the concern troll. She was also very concerned for the RIAA’s credibility after a certain platinum cerification.

his hair seems to be really high…? I’m disappointed =P.

It’s not Cook’s hair that’s high; it’s the ever increasing forehead. As we all know, he will someday be taller than his hair. *weeps*

ROTFLMAO!

I cringe at personal attacks on physical features though, bad skin, hair, especially things like balding, weight issues and acne that are hard to deal with. I don’t participate in any of that stuff, because no one is perfect. I’m glad I’m not in HD for the world to judge.

Sometimes the physical comments are pretty low (my personal pet peeve is that all of the women get a ton of “weight” comments. Kelly’s too fat, Carrie’s too skinny, and so on – and we wonder why 12 year olds get anorexia?). But, other times, something is just so obvious you have to comment on it (case in point, Clay’s funky face). For instance, I don’t make fun of Cook for his receding hair line. I make fun of that sad little comb over he uses to try and hide it. Own your baldness Cookie!

But, is there a new rule where we have to define how we’re using the word seriously? LOL

LOL Who knows. I missed nearly everything everyone’s talking about here. When I got here a few ago, I saw odd stuff on the last comment page, so I skimmed back. That’s where I saw some discussion of how people use the word “Seriously” as an intro to snark. Out of an abundance of caution, as I tend to be misunderstood in these parts and because I have an odd sense of humor (or maybe those two are the same thing lol), I decided to be explicit in my use of the term.

Don’t worry, I predict it won’t last.

With Kat, it was mostly just straight-forward hating. I think concern-trolling is a relatively new tactic

Ah – the old days when the vitriol was pure and untainted with “strategy”.

Hang in there, mj. For what it’s worth, I’d like to express my sincere appreciation for all your hard work. You’re doing the Idols and their fans (even the BSC ones) a huge service by being the best clearinghouse for Idol related news. Thank you.

Sma11ie I’ll give it a shot – this honesty thing and see where that gets me.

Your memory is protecting you. You forget how “concerned” and “sympathetic” the “candyman” was when Taylor sold 3K fewer CDs than Daughtry in his first week and the great MJ meltdown of ought-six.

The “candyman” was an expert at the concern troll. She was also very concerned for the RIAA’s credibility after a certain platinum cerification.

Damn. You’re right. I had forgotten all about how Candyman’s posts started with the faux concern. LOL

I do however remember the great battle of the myspace friends. We’d get a daily count of how many more myspace friends Chris had than Taylor (hmm, that’s starting to feel a little like the twitter count LOL). Since it was the holidays, and I was tired of hearing about it, I recall sending candyman over the edge with this comment: “Yeah, we get it. Every time a bell rings, Chris gets a new Myspace friend.” LMAO, how fun it was to poke the candyman.

Not sure if this has been posted, but Aaron is getting mentioned on CMT’s website:

http://www.cmt.com/news/news-in-brief/1644338/keith-urban-rascal-flatts-covered-on-american-idol-tour.jhtml

I cringe at personal attacks on physical features though, bad skin, hair, especially things like balding, weight issues and acne that are hard to deal with. I don’t participate in any of that stuff, because no one is perfect. I’m glad I’m not in HD for the world to judge.
I only comment on Cookie, and I will adore him even when his other 11 hairs have vanished and he wraps his last one all the way around his oversized head.

I actually enjoyed the Clay/Rueben interview. It was quick, witty, and entertaining. Who would of thunk it.

I cringe at personal attacks on physical features though, bad skin, hair, especially things like balding, weight issues and acne that are hard to deal with.

For instance, I don’t make fun of Cook for his receding hair line. I make fun of that sad little comb over he uses to try and hide it. Own your baldness Cookie!

Eh, Cook has always owned his receding hairline/balding/thinning hair. He talked about it when he was on AI and post-AI, including relatively recently when he was at the IICD house (“why’d you cut your hair? ‘coz I’m balding”). So I don’t feel bad about talking about his ever-decreasing hair.

I do however remember the great battle of the myspace friends.

Aaah, MySpace. Remember in S7 when Brooke actually had to address why she hadn’t friended Archie on his MySpace yet? Because it got lots of people apparently riled up. Yup, dear Archie and sweet Brooke were accussed of perhaps secretly feuding!!

Now, of course, it’s all about which Idols follows which Idol on Twitter and (full circle) how many followers they have. Heh.

I make fun of that sad little comb over he uses to try and hide it. Own your baldness Cookie!

I only comment on Cookie, and I will adore him even when his other 11 hairs have vanished and he wraps his last one all the way around his oversized head.

ok, these are meant in love and not out of plain meanness. I’m okay with this.

his hair seems to be really high…? I’m disappointed =P.

It’s not Cook’s hair that’s high; it’s the ever increasing forehead. As we all know, he will someday be taller than his hair. *weeps*

ROFL. Hey! one day he will shave it all like daughtry and he will still be handsome

So here’s something to aspire to… and for perspective:

@Pink Gothenburg-35,000 people!2night was awesome. They gave me a platinum plaque + told me I’m the youngest person to headline here. Thankyou!!!! about 1 hour ago

Wow! Since she wrote a song now sung by an Idol, I hope this is OT. But, just in case it’s not, please note that @Pink has 1,747,789 Twitter followers. So, there ya go.

For instance, I don’t make fun of Cook for his receding hair line. I make fun of that sad little comb over he uses to try and hide it. Own your baldness Cookie!

Now, I gotta get defensive for a sec here. He got a haircut and got rid of the comb-sideways or whatever! Have you seen recent pics, like the one from last night? His receding hairline is out there now, in all its glory. I think it looks way better than the stringy bangs. That said, I do make fun of the hairline, cuz I am shallow and I think it’s funny. So there, I admit it.

I only comment on Cookie, and I will adore him even when his other 11 hairs have vanished and he wraps his last one all the way around his oversized head.

You know what? That’s true for me too. I am relentless with David, but then again, I also heart him embarrassingly much so maybe I’m just overcompensating?

Talk about GNT concert DVD. I would like to give some idea. Would you like to share and discuss?

DCO has engaged in similar exercises to make some homegrown DVDs for charity, etc (since we never got official ones). But seems like a much bigger project than something you can accomplish on MJ’s comments section…? Maybe start a blog, and ask people for feedback there.

Eh, I think it’s a quirky solidarity, if they do – kinda sorta cute.

Thank goodness for quirky solidarity. I’ve followed bands where the members can’t stand being in the same room with each other and this is much more fun, even if it’s a lot hairier*.

*Well, from the nose down.

Now, of course, it’s all about which Idols follows which Idol on Twitter and (full circle) how many followers they have. Heh.

Oh, that’s one of my favorites. The fan-invented secret feud as evidenced by a lack of follow. Fans have to dig pretty deep to uncover that kind of faux scandel. It takes a lot of effort, and a keen eye to see all of the video evidence of the feudees not hugging each other (OMG!) that we mere mortals fail to pick up on .

But, just in case it’s not, please note that @Pink has 1,747,789 Twitter followers. So, there ya go.

Tee hee.

ETA:

Now, I gotta get defensive for a sec here. He got a haircut and got rid of the comb-sideways or whatever! Have you seen recent pics, like the one from last night? His receding hairline is out there now, in all its glory. I think it looks way better than the stringy bangs. That said, I do make fun of the hairline, cuz I am shallow and I think it’s funny. So there, I admit it.

I should have spoken in the past tense. I have not seen the new haircut, but I salute him for giving up the comb-over. (Truthfully, I’m a little hesitant to look at pics of him with this new red beard that’s been mentioned. I fear I would have no choice but to relentlessly snark on that. And, I like a lot of you Cooktards. So, I try not to make fun of him more than once in a single day ).

Hey! one day he will shave it all like daughtry and he will still be handsome.

Heh. You obviously missed, or have somehow forgotten, his baby pic and sad discussion of Cook’s over-sized, misshapen noggin.

I missed everything so I’m not going to comment here except to say I’d like to take y’all out for a round of drinks. I know I need one. LOL

Ok, I’m now post ho-ing, but Twitter has been good to me today, so along with the drinks tinawina‘s serving, I’d like to turn your attention to Lady Gaga’s awesome performance(s) on Ellen today. (Maybe rerun, but I missed it altogether…) Speechless is my fav on The Monster EP, so enjoy it with your adult beverage of choice!

http://ellen.warnerbros.com/2010/07/lady_gaga_performs_speechless_0723.php

Again, the good Lady wrote a song now sung by an Idol, and appeared on Idol for two seasons in a row now. And, Ellen’s a judge. But, if that’s not enough, Gaga recently celebrated her milestone 5,000,000 twitter followers!

P.S. Thanks for the drinks, tinawina, don’t mind if I do!

Being an idol fan and expressing a favorite during the season is a real catch 22 situation. Once you declare for someone you are pretty much a target whenever you decide to talk about any other idol, especially if the comment is at all negative. No matter what is said or how it is expressed there is always someone who will “fight back” and bring the original poster’s fav into the conversation..and always in some kind of bad light.

Personally I envy posters that never declare a favorite. Learned my lesson…I’ll never admit to being an invested fan of anyone ever again. Neutrality…from now on I’ll just be Switzerland when it comes to voicing an opinion.

Now, of course, it’s all about which Idols follows which Idol on Twitter and (full circle) how many followers they have. Heh.

Or which Idols are promoting their fellow Idols on twitter. I’d bet my left arm there’s a chart somewhere keeping track.

Tess you read my mind. I’m sure somewhere some ai fan has a log of exactly which threads I post to and what I said. Lol I don’t doubt it for a moment.

Regarding Cook’s beard. I just seen the pic, and ouch!. Andy said he wasn’t shaving until the record is done, Neal tweeted that he was “combing” his beard and now I see Cookie. I guess they will look like ZZ top by their Busch Gardens show. What a shame, covering those beauiful faces. I’m sad.

NOOOOOO! He looks like a lumberjack! *sobs* Just shave Cook! Lord have mercy on my eyes.

P.S. I still love you Cookie.

Personally I envy posters that never declare a favorite. Learned my lesson…I’ll never admit to being an invested fan of anyone ever again. Neutrality…from now on I’ll just be Switzerland when it comes to voicing an opinion.

I’ve found the trick is to just not get invested at all

I’m sure somewhere some ai fan has a log of exactly which threads I post to and what I said. Lol I don’t doubt it for a moment.

It’s certainly within the realm of possibility. All I can tell you for sure, is that it’s not me. I can’t even remember which threads I post to, let alone the rest of you.

Once you declare for someone you are pretty much a target whenever you decide to talk about any other idol, especially if the comment is at all negative.

My favorite (duh) is David Cook, but I’ll say positive and negative things about all the Idols depending on how I actually feel about a topic. Sorry, like I told Koshka, I know what my motives are (don’t tend to have them, except to ass talk on a blog to entertain myself), so I don’t worry myself too much about being misinterpreted or targeted, cuz then I’ll just explain myself, and I don’t really mind cuz I’m verbose =P. But that’s just me.

I’d like to take y’all out for a round of drinks. I know I need one. LOL

Word! With that, happy weekend everyone!

ETA: He tweets!

singin’ fool. http://twitpic.com/280bce
6 minutes ago via Twitpic

SQUEE! Darn, what’s with the hat? Wanted to snark on the hair… Also, the beard doesn’t look that thick…? Finally… this mean he’s using Twitpic again, or that someone else tweeted it? I hope he’s Twitpic’ing– don’t like YFrog.

It does indeed look like a day to bust out the drink cart!

Personally I envy posters that never declare a favorite. Learned my lesson…I’ll never admit to being an invested fan of anyone ever again. Neutrality…from now on I’ll just be Switzerland when it comes to voicing an opinion.

Why? I think it’s perfectly possible to be invested without making yourself a target. If you (general you) have a sense of humor about yourself (because let’s face it, being an invested fan of a reality show contestant is a hilarious thing to be — I shake my head at myself every day, but what can you do but laugh?) and in addition don’t feel the need to be snotty about others while making your point, why would you become a target?

If you pursue your crazyass fannishness with the sense of absurdity it deserves and a lack of vitriol towards others, anyone who targets you will instead demonstrate their own agenda. No need to hide behind a wall of cheese and chocolate.

And now I’m hungry.

I love the way Cookie looked in that pic from the Kris Allen show last night. Bearded buff rockstar – yum.

Meanwhile in stalking twitter news, Cook is beating people at Bop It (WTH is Bop It?) and singing his face (but not beard) off and Neal is buying pork chops. What is it with these guys and pork chops?

ruben and clay are really great together – they have a chemistry and an easy humor with each other that looks and feels very natural. they genuinely seem to like each other, and their banter is very engaging and funny. i like the sense of humor they both possess about life after idol. i may now try to see them on tour if they come close to me. they are very entertaining in this clip.

I was once a Clay fan, and then developed a strong aversion to him. Watching this video and seeing how they really love and respect each other, I may have to rethink my aversion. It did keep me from getting a ticket, I’ve seem Ruben many times, and it’s always a treat. Maybe I might check them out.

MollyAnnMay:
07/23/2010 at 7:57 pm

Meanwhile in stalking twitter news, Cook is beating people at Bop It (WTH is Bop It?)

Its an awesome game! We play it all the time!

http://www.hasbro.com/games/en_US/shop/details.cfm?guid=5FCBD623-19B9-F369-D9D7-E9C7F1F33570&product_id=24524

Hah. Thanks Caden.

From the web site: “invite your friends for a game of Party Bop—you’ll all have to use your knees, elbows, and hips to win”

Why do I suddenly feel robbed by the picture from the studio of Cook singing. Just, you know, singing? (Answer: silly, silly overinvestment at possibly alarming levels.) Heh.

ngl, all the cook hair talk is cracking me up! hahaaha

The concert with Ruben & Clay just started. I’m listening on the cellstream. The first song is “Flying Without Wings” as a duet.

When things get tense, just bring up Cookie’s hair and all will settle down. As far as picking a favorite, there is nothing wrong with that. My favorite is Cookie. I have never seen a whole season of AI and could careless about it. I just love Cookie. I scroll this site for crumbs and move on when there are none.

ngl, all the cook hair talk is cracking me up! hahaaha

Wait ’til the belly reappears. The laughs will be nonstop. And you know its coming back… no way is he leaving the beer alone forever.

let’s face it, being an invested fan of a reality show contestant is a hilarious thing to be — I shake my head at myself every day, but what can you do but laugh?)

True dat. We are all quite ridiculous after all.

I’ve read through the thread & was going to comment but wander3ful and pattycake seemed to have read my mind & said what I was gonna say better. I enjoy reading about AI here on this site, but the only artist I’m emotionally invested in is David Cook. (well, and his bandmates.) Now that he’s got his hair situation under control & his love life under lockdown, he has to give us some new music soon to talk about. Virginia concert first week in August – hopefully some real new music crumbs then.

From KC 101 in Connecticut’s site:
http://www.kc101.com/cc-common/globa…?contest=39897

Register to win tickets to ride 2010.

Featuring Flo Rida, Boys Like Girls and David Archuleta!
Date: 8/27 friday
Location: Six Flags New England
Time: Gates 3pm, Stage: 4-8pm EST

A picture of Ruben, Clay, Casey and Quiana.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a147/concertstorm/joy2talk2u/Summer%202010%20Timeless%20Tour/Asheville%20NC/Ashville_Clay_and_Ruben2.jpg

Cook’s looks are just OK, but it’s his personality that makes him so attractive. (The rather unattractive Voltaire – paraphrasing – give me 15 minutes to explain away my face and I’ll seduce the Queen of France.)

was this posted yet? Good review for Kris’s show last night

http://www.ocregister.com/entertainment/ladies-259150-barenaked-style.html

Cook’s looks are just OK

Nah…he’s George Clooney if you compare him to Lee Dewyze. Now, that’s homely (and I think Lee looks like Billy Joel and Billy Joel ain’t no Prince Charming).

Being an idol fan and expressing a favorite during the season is a real catch 22 situation. Once you declare for someone you are pretty much a target whenever you decide to talk about any other idol, especially if the comment is at all negative. No matter what is said or how it is expressed there is always someone who will “fight back” and bring the original poster’s fav into the conversation..and always in some kind of bad light.

Personally I envy posters that never declare a favorite. Learned my lesson…I’ll never admit to being an invested fan of anyone ever again.

I’m sorry to tell you this, but that will not work.

Even if you are neutral, the moment you criticize a fan favourite for even the most minor thing, the BSC fans of that idol will automatically assume that you are a fan of that Idol’s mortal enemy (doesn’t matter if the Idols are good friends, the BSC fans determine who is a mortal enemy of whom). Even if you loudly declare “I’m not a fan of [mortal enemy] Idol” and mock [mortal enemy] Idol, they will never believe you (all that will do is convince the fans of [mortal enemy] Idol that you are a closet fan of the first Idol). Even if you have proclaimed your fandom of other Idols in the past, you have a secret agenda for hiding your fandom now behind a cloak of neutrality.

Just look at MJ, hated by all BSC fans because her site is clearly a fan site of [mortal enemy] Idol.

In neutrality, you will be hated by all BSC fans. For the BSC fans, you are either with them or against them. There is no middle ground. You might even become notorious enough in your neutrality to get “nicknames” at all the fansites.

Disclaimer: I’m in no way saying that normal fans are BSC fans and I am not picking on any one fan group. BSC fans are all alike; every normal fan is normal in their own way.

I have been reading this thread and Mjs comments. I have always enjoyed Idol but have never been an invested fan until s7. I was firmly in the Cook and Castro corner and voted my heart out during the finale. S8 I was pretty much all Adam though I was a little less invested than s7 but still I voted for him for all 4 hours during the finale. This season I was a completely uninvested fan and when the finale was over, that was it. I think the nature of Idol fandom goes hand in hand with some element of fanwarring. Its because you are literally backing your horse. You want your horse to win every race.Or backing your favorite soccer team. It is not simply liking this or that musician more than another. The snark, the jealousy, the bitterness post season of highly contested or emotional Idol season is part of it. I think its impossible to take that component out of the Idol experience as long the Idol winner is chosen by how much thumb straining texting and rediAling you do. The only thing I don’t like is viciousness. I actually agree with a lot of people that things have been much more pleasant on the blog lately. I think having the concert threads help. Also the general atmosphere seems more tolerant and the viciousness and sniping are less. I did leave this blog for a while because honestly I thought it was unfriendly all around. But lately in the headline threads and the tour threads, it been so fun with a nice sence of commeraderie.

Clay- We’re like famous duos of the past

Ruben- Peaches and Herb

Clay- But one was a fruit and the other a seasoning.

Hopefully somewhat on topic, since they’ve been the subject of conversation here: A story from Comics Alliance about the greeting the Westboro Church jackasses got when they tried to picket Comic Con:

who can win against a counter protest that includes robots, magical anime girls, Trekkies, Jedi and…kittens? [...] Unbeknownst to the dastardly fanatics of the Westboro Baptist Church, the good folks of San Diego’s Comic-Con were prepared for their arrival with their own special brand of superhuman counter protesting chanting “WHAT DO WE WANT” “GAY SEX” “WHEN DO WE WANT IT” “NOW!”

Video and photos of some very funny signs included.

MollyAnnMay, the signs in that article are hilarious! I’m seriously LOL-ing. (And, I mean that seriously, in a serious type way ).

Even if you loudly declare “I’m not a fan of [mortal enemy] Idol” and mock [mortal enemy] Idol, they will never believe you (all that will do is convince the fans of [mortal enemy] Idol that you are a closet fan of the first Idol). Even if you have proclaimed your fandom of other Idols in the past, you have a secret agenda for hiding your fandom now behind a cloak of neutrality.

Just look at MJ, hated by all BSC fans because her site is clearly a fan site of [mortal enemy] Idol.

LMAO Kirsten. You’re on fire– and on the money today. I kinda wanted to quote and/or marry your whole post. Alas, I will settle with just quoting this part. The upside, is that MJ is just hated by BSC fans, not the normal ones. I will keep posting positive and negative comments of various Idols, and rest in the knowledge that only the BSC fans will question my agenda/motives, so I won’t worry about it.

Never been a fan of Clooney’s looks, Tess. Find David far more attractive.

I’m seriously LOL-ing. (And, I mean that seriously, in a serious type way ).

LOL! Seriously? I’m glad. : )

I so much enjoy coming here on a regular basis reading news about American Idol and my favs. I, for one, just skip over the news of those I’m not interested in or don’t like and look for any exciting and encouraging news about my favs. I’m actually a highly competitive person, but I learned from being a huge tennis fan that fan warring is everywhere (Nadal vs Federer fights will never end) and in the end, just raises my blood pressure. I find that my new favorite word when reading something that really gets my goat “Whatever” and a good eye-roll helps me move on.

LMAO Kirsten! Mortal Enemy Idol sounds like some kind of supervillain or Sith lord or something. Just the name makes me a little afraid of Mortal Enemy Idol and his evil plans of Billboard and Mediabase domination. He must be stopped and put down at every opportunity, and his minions mocked and baited incessantly.

LMAO Kirsten! Mortal Enemy Idol sounds like some kind of supervillain or Sith lord or something. Just the name makes me a little afraid of Mortal Enemy Idol and his evil plans of Billboard and Mediabase domination. He must be stopped and put down at every opportunity, and his minions mocked and baited incessantly.

Most definitely! LOL.

Mortal Enemy Idol is a Sith Lord and Supervillian all rolled into one. When he walks into a radio a station he waves his hands and says “These are not the songs you play.” and the Program Director promptly tosses all copies of Good and Sweet and Virtuous Idol’s latest industry changing single into the garbage. Another hand wave and “This is the song you play” and the DJs promptly play Mortal Enemy Idol’s boring, cliched, been-there-done-that single 48 times a day. Mortal Enemy Idol whistles tunelessly as he leaves the station, only stopping to kick a puppy and pop a small child’s balloon.

Disclaimer: Every season has an evil Mortal Enemy Idol. Most seasons have 6. BTW Mortal Enemy Idol is always UG-LY.

This site has brought me so much pleasure that I hate to hear the angst in MJ’s comments. I certainly understand the frustration….this year has not been as much fun here….but I am hoping all can *get* what she is trying to say and think before posting. I know I have made mistakes here….I even think I was put in moderation once…..:0….now I just chill, read what I want and most times, wear out the scroll button!

Interview with Sarver and he mentions Adam, Kris, Danny. It’s sweet

http://www.cmt.com/news/country-music/1644342/american-idols-michael-sarver-talks-about-being-the-new-guy-in-country.jhtml

oops, wrong thread!

I only comment on Cookie, and I will adore him even when his other 11 hairs have vanished and he wraps his last one all the way around his oversized head.

ROFLMAO, HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH, greatest comment ever

Kirsten, have to say, love your posts today (yesterday), hahahahhahahahaha
you indeed are on fire

He moved to Texas at age 20 in search of his father, who left when he was 2. When nothing came of the search, Sarver decided to pursue another dream and audition for the eighth season of American Idol.

I didn’t know this of Michael. I wonder if his father heard about him on idol and is aware it’s his son. The contrary would be surprising if the said father is still alive. Michael seems to be a very optimistic guy, I guess he overcame this.
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your posts are really funny Kirsten. I can’t stop laughing at the idea of Lord Sith and his minions bringing chaos on the web idol world.
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weareallinnocent:
07/23/2010 at 7:25 pm

Hey! one day he will shave it all like daughtry and he will still be handsome.

Heh. You obviously missed, or have somehow forgotten, his baby pic and sad discussion of Cook’s over-sized, misshapen noggin.

well yes, I wasn’t aware of this problematic. Omg what to do ? I got an idea for this.. a tattooed head; a nice design (Escher style?) will hide the imperfections

well yes, I wasn’t aware of this problematic. Omg what to do ? I got an idea for this.. a tattooed head; a nice design (Escher style?) will hide the imperfections

or he could wear a rug, like John Travolta, j/k
I am glad he decided to drop this ridiculous combover, he looks so much better now

and to MJ – you are doing a great job, I only read stuff on your site, and love snarky posts
I think that this terribly hot summer has something to do with the mood, too, they say it’s been the hottest summer in 135 years!!!!!!

Ha, I logged on this morning, saw 248 comments and thought, “Oh, I wonder if this means there’s another Cookie hair discussion afoot…dum dum DUM.” Sad that I missed it. BTW, Cook’s ginger beard of band solidarity is very Kris Kringle from Santa Claus Is Coming To Town.