Idol Headlines for 6/4/08

Yep, I sort of agree with Nigel. Their personalities were “forgettable” as Simon said. The ones that got voted off first — Amanda, Danny, Chikezie — had personalities. They talked back to Simon and spoke in a different “voice” but you listened and they were controversial, about as controversial as it got. David A especially comes off as a “gee shucks” guy that is so irritating for a 17 year old…it’s as if he was imprisoned in his house and told to play and sing music all his frigging life. And didn’t know how to hold a conversation with any thing other than his piano.
David C comes off as too “high brow”, almost collegiate….but blame the judges for the lack of personality….and the producers….they wanted “singers” who could sing on key and that’s what they got. Michael Johns is a bit too “snarky” for my tastes whenever he’s been in interviews and I think it’s the Aussie background.

Out of the girls, I think Carly had the most personality maybe because she’s been there done that and ran a business, so she has to know how to talk to people. Syesha was “forgettable” and had nothing to say, but honestly — she wasn’t interviewed a lot. And does anybody remember KLC? I don’t.

As much as she’s a limited singer, Amanda sticks out in my mind because she dressed different, she was the rocknroll nurse, and she didn’t take stuff from Simon.

I think Daddy Archaleta is at it again. He arranged a concert without tptb’s blessing? Sorry Daddy, ain’t going to happen.

Smack down!

Oh come on. David Cook needs a personality?? I’m sorry, but what has Lithgoe been watching?? Has he lost his glasses?? Has he listened to or seen the interviews and performances David did last week?? How can he be so clueless, and yet still be one of the big bosses of American Idol? Ugh!

Is he kidding me? This year’s batch of contestants have the most charisma I’ve seen in a long time.

Mj, I know you’re busy, but today is June 4. :smile_wp:

Nigel is an ass. David Cook has personality plus. He’s articulate, gracious, and such a good sport for putting up with all the hoops Idol made him jump through. I never caught a whiff of condescension or sarcasm from Cook when he spoke of the horrendous group numbers. I can’t even remember a personality-filled interview Chris Daughtry gave.

Nigel doesn’t get it….

But then again, who these contestants were onstage during competition was waaaaaay different from who they were offstage.

Most of the things I learned about their personalities were from behind-the-scenes videos.

One of the biggest standout moments this season, for me? The chest bump. Another? DC crying every time I turned around. That’s enough personality for me. I’m just sayin’.

Way to go Nigel. Still pulling those strings.

For the record Nigel didn’t vote off Danny, Chiki, or Amanda, blame America for that. Or I guess you could blame Danny’s song choices, Amanda’s discomfort being on such a cheesy ass show, and not knowing how to hide it, and Chiki’s not knowing if he were Gnarls Barkley or MiniLuther Redux.

I am not a cooktard, but I think he has a good personality. I like the kinda guy that after he drags you to his cave by your hair that he actually has something interesting to say. I also think that having a personality isn’t about arguing with the judges as that is one of the fastest ticket off the show. There is actually an unwritten rule, don’t argue with the judges. Cookie learned it early on, and it saved him. Chiki learned it too late.

Me no understand Lithgoe. With face/voice/arms/guitar who needs a personality? Boyfriend is nothing but personality. Anyway, MJ, David Cook is going to be on Leno singing, we need details! Like when, when, when.

Nigel needs a muzzle.

Cookie has plenty of personality. In fact, that may be one of the major reasons he won Idol. Contrast his stage presence and skill at interviews to Archie’s – nothing comes close.

I will not debate Daughtry’s talent or success, but it’s a fact that he learned his people/fan skills from Ace Young. He had no idea how to deal with the crowds during the Idol tour. In fact, most of the guys took their cues from Ace. NO ONE has personality like Ace and NO ONE has treated their fans the way he has. How Cook does it remains to be seen, but because he is already getting mobbed, I wonder about the security on the tour.

“I did tell the women that I work with that they can say a lot of things about my son, but they should never come up to me and tell me think my son is sexy! That’s just something you don’t tell a mom,” she said.

Can’t say I blame DC’s mama. That’s just plain weird.

Tuesday afternoon, Archuletaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s agent à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  Roger Widynowski à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  said there would be no concert due to contractural obligations between the 17-year-old and American Idol.

Is Roger a 19E agent or David’s personal agent; hmmmm?

“Nigel is an ass. David Cook has personality plus. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s articulate, gracious, and such a good sport for putting up with all the hoops Idol made him jump through.” I read the article and Nigel means “stage” personality, and yes, I agree. Amanda, Syesha and Carly had the “stage” personality, not the guys. IMO Chris D doesn’t have much of a stage personality, he performs the same each time I see him…..just my opinion….but Chris D can talk up a conversation on the talk shows….

I guess if I were to hold a conversation with any Idols, it would be the women over the boys: Fantasia, Lakisha, Kimberly, Carly… whenever I’ve seen the men on TV, they just come across as bland.

To India: Uh, if you’re a “star” you need a personality, either stage or talk-show personality…it’s what makes David Letterman invite you back to his couch time and again….just being a good singer isn’t enough….the artists have to know how to talk to the audience and show personality in their performance. On TV, we don’t see much of anything, it will be known once the tour is over, whether they learned more stage techniques.

One critic said that Jordin was “forgettable” on the Alicia tour….but she’s still learning and working hard….good that she’s on tour with Alicia Keys.

Don’t know if this was posted anywhere, but Phil Stacey fans can catch him at the CMA Festival festivities on XM radio. From what I can tell, he will be at the parade and kick-off concert. Here’s the information.

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Whatever else you want to say about the Prez, he has committed more funding to fighting poverty and disease in Africa than all other presidents and TV show producers combined. Just ask Bono and Sir Bob Geldof. I can give Nigel a list of things for which he bears responsibility that he should be embarrassed about before he scolds anybody else.

I don’t mean to sound like a broken record, but Nigel is the root of all evil in this here part of the internet. Arguably, the most charismatic AI7 contestant, Jason Castro, was run down and over by Nigel’s bus not once, not twice, but at least three times. Thanks to Jason’s dork dancing and Seacrest mockery, the inflated results shows became appointment television. Cookie is sharp, funny and articulate. Johnsy is the class clown. If the show’s structure and the incessant demands of the contestants’ schedules prevented them from displaying their personalities to the audience, how is that their fault and not Nigel’s?

If Dreyer’s (or Edie’s, depending on your geography) created an American Idol flavor in Nigel’s honor, it would be pralines and dick.

Where was Nigel during the last few weeks of the competition? Of course, this isn’t the first time he’s said stupid things like this and it won’t be the last. I look for plenty more nonsense to come out of his mouth. :rolleyes_tb:

If Dreyerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s (or Edieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s, depending on your geography) created an American Idol flavor in Nigelà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s honor, it would be pralines and dick.

LMAO!

Nigel is such a pot stirrer, lol.

I find DC to be extremely charismatic when he’s singing. I am actually surprised by the amount of charisma he’s able to project even when he’s just standing there at his guitar. I think that’s the mark of true charisma, not charisma manufactured by dancing and acting like a lunatic. If he wants to start stage diving, though, I suppose it would be kind of funny, in a “did he seriously just do that?” kind of way.

DA is well on his way, as well, and the tour is going to do wonders for him in that regard, I think. However, if Nigel wants him to start dancing or something, he needs to stay the hell away from him.

It was the not singing parts that were boring this year. The whole thing felt like a funeral every week, so perhaps that’s what Nigel is trying to get at. If he wants that type of personality, I’m sure Mikalah Gordon is still available. Or you know…maybe they can find someone with that type of personality that doesn’t suck. (Though America will probably hate them for being annoying anyway).

Not having much personality didn’t hurt Carrie did it? And Cook is way ahead of her there although I agree that he comes off a tad boring (but very nice and smart )in his interviews. I think to be a “personality,” you have to come across as more spontaneous and fun.

If Nigel is criticizing them for stage charisma, people can judge for themselves on tour. I thought Daughtry was pretty boring on the show but live he generated a lot of rock star magnetism.

Chicago-Sally, Roger has been listed as a 19 publicist. He was for Kat, Bo, and if memory serves Clay’s until last year. I believe he was promoted in some capacity within RCA. I don’t think he is Archie’s agent, but there is such cross pollenation in idolworld that who knows?

Best Celebrity Smile Makeovers à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ The Stars Go from Gapped to Capped

…Here is DocShopà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s list of the best celebrity smile makeovers.

During Elliott Yaminà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s run on American Idol, it was often unclear if judge Simon Cowell was referring to Elliottà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s crooked teeth or vocal performances when he used phrases like à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“simply atrociousà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“absolutely dreadful.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Since his voice, in my opinion, was usually à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“a molten hot lava bombà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ in the eloquent words of fellow AI judge Randy Jackson à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ I hedged my bets that Simon was talking about Elliottà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s cave of a mouth. However, shortly after his run on the show, Elliott had $50,000 of veneers placed to cover up his snaggleteeth. One of his 2007 hit singles was aptly named à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Wait for Youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ Elliott dear, we were waiting a long time for you to fix your smile! Now he finally has some à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“blazing hotà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  teeth to match that voice (and I have shamelessly recycled every tired Idol catchphrase ever uttered on the show)…

Eh, unless my memory is failing me, I don’t really remember Simon using “atrocious” or “dreadful” to describe Elliott, though. Hideous, yes, referring to his dancing, which it was kinda. lol

The man who continually trots out Carrie Underwoodbot 2000 thinks that David Cook lack charisma? Okay, Grandpa Nigel…you just sit quietly now until pudding time.

American Idol reject breaks the bank at Staten Island fair

A popular celebrity gossip website says American Idol reject Sanjaya Malakar’s asking price is too much for his talent.

According to TMZ, last year’s Idol stars who performed at the fair, Kimberly Caldwell and Paris Bennett, made less than $5,000 combined…

I neglected to say I think Cook has charisma on stage too. He just commands it.
I’d take Cook, Jason, Johns and Chikeze over the girls, anyday, in the personality department.

Nigel doesn’t think DC has a personality, no charisma? (but vapid Daughtry does and mannequin Carrie do ????)

See Best Week Ever video.

Roger has been listed as a 19 publicist. He was for Kat, Bo, and if memory serves Clayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s until last year. I believe he was promoted in some capacity within RCA.

Yes. Here is a snippet from an old HDD article on the subject (sorry, link has expired. I just have the text):

ROGER AND OUT: After 13 years at RCA Records, starting as an intern and rising to VP, Roger Widynowski will oversee U.S. publicity for 19 Entertainment, starting next Monday (10/1). He will be involved with Annie Lennoxà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s upcoming tour, work with American Idol runner-up Blake Lewis and the Spice Girls reunion tour, among others. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll also handle stateside publicity for American Idol, So You Think You Can Dance and the new The Next Great American Band Show, debuting in Oct. (9/26p)

Prior to that he was involved with a lot of Idols. Seems he used to be RCA rep of the runner-ups since his name is linked to Clay, Bo, Kat amd Blake (and now Archie)

Nigel doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think DC has a personality, no charisma?
See Best Week Ever video.

That is all the proof you need. :wink_wp:

Nige is just pissy because he heard David Cook mimic his accent, lol.

I didn’t see this posted
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/20947846/rocker_rules_on_american_idol?action=rate#rate

In the biggest upset in American Idol history, 25-year-old ex-bartender David Cook à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  who regularly strapped on an electric guitar to offer emo-ish takes on Lionel Richie’s “Hello” and the Beatles’ “Day Tripper” à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  easily beat 17-year-old crooner David Archuleta during the May 21st finale of American Idol, nabbing 56 percent of the more than 90 million votes cast. “I wasn’t surprised Cook won, but that’s because I get to see all the results each week,” says the show’s creator, Simon Fuller, whose 19 Entertainment will guide Cook’s post-Idol career. “I don’t want to tempt fate, but I think David’s name will enter the list of great talents discovered by Idol.”

This isn’t the first time SF has said such nice things about him. What Simon Fuller says is even sweeter in light of Nigel’s assy comment. I’ll take Fuller over Nigel any day.

Nigel does realize that Chris D. displayed zero personality on the show, doesn’t he? I think the same can be said about Carrie. Charisma (and the ability to move massive units) do not always go hand-in-hand with a dynamic personality. Obviously, people found DC compelling since he won the best!season!ever! by a comfortable margin. He probably would have show more personality in his performances if he could have done so without being labeled “smug” and I think we’ll see a looser DC on tour. C’mon Nigel, taste the rainbow!

ETA: Ha! I think Nigel lost a bet to Fuller.

I think that same Roger guy was named on DC’s press release from last week.

I agree that David Cook has personality, but I do blame Nigel for not producing a better show. I see so much more in all the kids in the exit interviews and behind-the-scenes vids than I ever did on the show. Who’s fault is that? Look in the mirror, Nigel.

Prior to that he was involved with a lot of Idols. Seems he used to be RCA rep of the runner-ups since his name is linked to Clay, Bo, Kat amd Blake (and now Archie)

Yes, Roger worked with Blake. I think Blake has a new publicist now.

Neighborsgo editors Kandace Dodson and Dawn Redig had access on Jasonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s cruise with his family and close friends just before he docked at The Harbor for his concert.

The video associated with this article was nice. I’m glad they keep popping up. His peeps sure do seem pround of him!

Jason also did a video blog at 1am last night. Princess Jackie looks cute in her late night dork getup. LOL.

Not to defend Nigel but he’s the producer of a TV show that had a ratings dip this year. He really has nothing to do with any of their careers once the season is over. He won’t see Cook or Archie again until they appear to promote their singles on S8. Cowell doesn’t make any $ off their careers either. Fuller handles the management end and he’ll never be anything but positive about anyone he signs.

I think Nigel is the one who needs a personality. Can he leave Cookie and Archie alone!!! They are doing great without him!!! Who needs personality when you can get good music from them!

DC has all the charisma most of us can handle even from a distance,lol! As for personality, I get it in the sense that even a lot of fans voiced the desire for him to “have more fun,” in the final few weeks, or to “bring back the swagger,” etc. But I didn’t think he could do much of that without triggering the Snark of Simon. Early on, Simon pretty well instructed Skittles to show no personality. And yet, Skittles *still* managed to show it in serious, quiet,and powerful ways on stage and then hilariously off stage. I have so much respect for the brilliant ways in which he navigated the treacherous shoals between Nigel, Simon, fans, other contestants, media, and all of TBTB. I’m even kind of glad it all happened this way, because it helped turn him into a performer with more gravitas, and now he has that AND he can maybe lighten up a tad. Just my opinion, of course.

But, geez, Nigel, both of the Davids were EXHAUSTED. And whose fault might THAT be, hmmm, Nigel?

hurray nigel speaks the truth. Personally i think DA has more personality onstage than DC. I think DC is a great person, but the reason i just never got into him that much was because i found him boring. I kno a lot of ppl think DA is really boring and thats fine, but i thought when he hit the stage he was a whole other person.

Hmmmmmm. What show was Nigel watching? Did he see and hear David Cook perform onstage? DANG, Cook practically popped through my TV screen into my living room! Oh wouldn’t that have been NICE? ANYWAY…I, and I’m sure others, picked up on a lot of Cook’s personality just from his performances and other appearances on Idol. If you watched or read ANYTHING else, you got even more. Obviously, Cook is much loved and adored, no thanks to people like Mr Personality himself, Nigel whats-his-name.

hurray nigel speaks the truth. Personally i think DA has more personality onstage than DC.

He said BOTH have no personality.

Nigel’s an ass. That is all.

ETA: Okay, that isn’t all. Regardless of his personal feellings (or mine) about President Bush, why the hell would he risk pissing off 50% of the American people who call themselves Republicans by saying they didn’t want him to appear on the Idol Gives Back show. So what? Idol Gives Back but only if it’s Democrats doing the giving? I consider myself an Independent and have voted for both Reps. and Dems, and I’m offended by that statement.

Nigelà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s an ass. That is all.

Exactly. That will never change.

WHAT! David Cook has plenty of personality and Jason Castro has tons of charisma as Simon pointed out time and again!!!

Nigel was obviously watching another show all season, right? DC has so much charisma, that I honestly didn’t even understand what I was reading and had to reread it, thinking I must have read wrong. Ridiculous.
Well, I don’t really care what Nigel thinks, but if anything, this comment just makes him seem out of touch. It reflects negatively on him much more than it does on DC.
No charisma? Pshhhhhh. People have been laughing about Simon’s comment from top 20 ever since he made it. Maybe Nigel just wants some attention.

I’m thinking Carrie’s personality, as far as Nigel is concerned, is her looks. Certainly nothing else I’m picking up on. Another winner who had tons of personality – Taylor. That didn’t seem to win him any favors from TPTB.

Relax guys. Nigel’s bored and just wants to see how much he can get the fans riled up. He’s probably reading this board right now and laughing away muuuhahahahahah!!!!

Might I add that for somebody who supposedly needs a personality, David just sold 940k units on Itunes last week. Not bad, huh??

I believe Simon Cowell does have a financial interest in the winner(s). Seems I read somewhere that he gets a cut of their management or their recording earnings.

GwendolynD– where did you read that comment by DC’s mum? It’s funny. And very true- that would be really weird!

where did you read that comment by DCà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s mum? Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s funny. And very true- that would be really weird!

There is a funny comment from Andrew there too. :laugh_tb:

Here is the link to the article.

Didn’t Simon Cowell say on Leno that he thought all the contestants this season were boring and/or too safe (or something along those lines)?

The show’s setup isn’t really conducive to getting to know the person behind the singing. There just isn’t enough time during the show (you know, they need to fill up that time with filler, not the contestants) and those short little interviews they show aren’t really giving anyone any insight into the person. So unless you’re computer savvy and go online, you’re not really seeing much of these contestants once their 1.5 minute performance is over. And then you get a minute or so (depending on how the judges are interacting with each other and how long it takes Paula to spit out her compliment) to see them stand there and accept their criticism (how they take it, IMO, says a lot about them). I think the audience would get to see more “personality” if they showed some of the behind-the-scenes footage.

Not sure what Nigel was thinking. In the best of Cook’s performances, he owned the stage—Billie Jean, Hello, etc. There was a point in the season where I felt like he needed to branch out in his “guitar-less” performances, and not just hang onto the mike stand, but then came ISHFWILF. And look at his performance of ToML on the results show. Sharing the limelight was a generous act and showed some real caring for his fellow contestants, but it was also a great spectacle, particularly by bringing the whole group out on the catwalk.

I’m not saying that he doesn’t have room to improve, because he does, but I’d say that he has about as good a base level for performance as just about anyone I’ve seen on Idol. (I didn’t watch some of the seasons, so I can’t compare to all of the competitors.) If he continues to improve as he did on the show in his post-Idol time (as Carrie and Kellie Pickler did), he should turn out to be a fantastic performer.

Pam
Jun 4th, 2008 at 11:46 am
where did you read that comment by DCà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s mum? Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s funny. And very true- that would be really weird!

There is a funny comment from Andrew there too.

Here is the link to the article.

Kinda like girls telling me my brother’s hot! Ugh! I know the guy you think is so hot! Seriously….

I like my pop/rock singers to be a bit more cerebral and chatty. If I’m going to listen to their music and buy their CD’s I want people I can relate to. Cook fits that bill for me. I always loved Bette Midler because not only was she a great entertainer, she was terribly witty, and carried a lively sparkling conversation.

Daughtry may be great at what he does but he always struck me as being sullen. Underwood, also a major talent but I want to open up her head and say, “Hello, is there anyone there?” Both may have great off-stage personalities but I don’t see charisma pouring from them on-stage.

If Nigel means that he wants more on-stage charisma coming through during the show then maybe TPTB ought to lighten up on the hectic schedule the contestants keep. It seemed to me that they all showed personality at the start but at the end the contestants seemed all work-no play.

PJ – thanks for posting the Castro video blog. I like that kid and his family too.
HIs little sister is a hoot!

RE: David Cook’s mom and her comment. I completely relate! If my friends made comments on my son’s sex appeal I’d think they were “perving” on him. Ewwww.

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Tamyra Grey will perform on the Tony Awards with the cast of RENT on June 15th

O.K. so David Cook has so little onstage charisma that he got 55.5 milliion votes during the final show. And he has so little charisma that for the first time in 7 seasons of waching the show, a contestant motivated this viewer to vote, and vote for 4 hours straight, on 2 phones. Wow. Nigel also needs to go back to David’s earlier shows when he tried to show personality and who he really is, and was crucified for it by Simon, and some of the public. I think Nigel really missed it on this comment!!

Kinda like girls telling me my brotherà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hot! Ugh! I know the guy you think is so hot! Seriouslyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

I do see where they are coming from. It’s different when it’s about a member of your own family. It does border on the creepy side.

If Dreyerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s (or Edieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s, depending on your geography) created an American Idol flavor in Nigelà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s honor, it would be pralines and dick

This is perfection.

I’m also cracking up at the fact that Daddy Archie thought he could just plan a random concert without clearing it with the AI peeps and get away with it. What an idiot. Hey shithead – your kid’s under contract. Until the tour is over and he records his cd – he does what they say. You’re no longer the one pulling the strings here Jeff. Asshat.

David Cook lacks a personality and charisma? Are we watching/listening to the same person? Nigel, re-read this ten years from now and see how absurd it sounds. Hope they don’t try to change him. He doesn’t need to change a thing.

Both Davids have personality. Cook is the strong quite type and Archie is the “aw shucks” type with his bright smile. You don’t have to be bouncing around all over the stage to exhibit personality. I’ll take brains (Cook) over fakeness (insert who you wish LOL).

Definition of charisma:

charisma |kÉâ„ ¢Ãƒâ€¹Ã‹â€ rÉ ªzmÉâ„ ¢|
noun
1 compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others : she enchanted guests with her charisma.
2 ( pl. -mata |kÉâ„ ¢Ãƒâ€¹Ã‹â€ rÉ ªzmÉâ„ ¢tÉâ„ ¢|) (also charism ) a divinely conferred power or talent.

So, Cookie and Archie has no compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others and no divinely conferred talent!!??? Oh, Nigel, you are so blinded by the lllllight…

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m also cracking up at the fact that Daddy Archie thought he could just plan a random concert without clearing it with the AI peeps and get away with it.

Too true. I was actually skeptic from the moment I heard about this concert, thinking there must be some conflict of interests with the AI tour. But – I was sure that since the announcement was already made (and how! It was declared as “BREAKING NEWS” which the fans will hear “before the morning news announces it the rest of the world”. I kid you not), the concert had to be approved and signed off by 19.
I just can’t figure out how they thought they’d get away with it. Did no one bother to ask permission? Very bad PR move.

So…proceeds from the Archie concert would go to charity? Was a charity specified?

The top two were lacking in stage charisma? Gee, Nigel, I guess the viewers were soooo bored by Cook and Archie that they decided to vote 97.5 million times for them in the final week.

Whassup with Jeff Archuleta, why can’t he just let Archie be and stop controlling his life, planning some concert for him before the AI tour!! He really is getting on the AI nerves now… Poor Arch! I think this will really affect his fans and other AI fans..

I just canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t figure out how they thought theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d get away with it. Did no one bother to ask permission? Very bad PR move.

And – I believe we’ve heard several of the contestants mention that tour rehearsals start in LA on Friday. So, how was David A. supposed to perform a concert in Utah that same day? Was Jeff just planning to have David skip a few days of rehearsal? Have him not show up to work like everyone else?

I feel bad for all of the fans who were planning to attend this event. They must be disappointed. Archie’s daddy isn’t doing him any favors. I have a lot of sympathy for the poor kid.

Wow, Nigel Lythgoe has a personality. Unfortunately, it’s repulsive.

What an ungracious, pathetic, insecure fool.

During the contest, the producers’ excuse for their nastiness to their own contestants (eg the spreading dirt on Archuleta’s father, Cowell and Lythgoe slamming various contestants on talk shows, humiliating editing of clips and so on) is that all the angst and atrociousness increases ratings.

The show concluded, why make a nasty public statement dumping on an impressive young singer who just bought them the most votes ever, highest download rates in the nation, and fabulous headlines about topping the Billboard charts?

Probably a combination of unpleasant impulses: trying to take Cook down a peg and show who’s boss before the tour after his massively positive press; plus, Lythgoe shoring up his own ego after a season when the producers were publicly slammed for crappy choices of themes (ten out of fifteen shows limited to music 20 to 50 years old) and favoritism of contestants who disappointed.

And just the sheer *ss-showing baboonery of a middle-aged man who can’t stand seeing the talented young people from whom he makes his money without pouring a big pail of bile on them.

Classy, that Nigel.

I think Nigel said this all to keep the blogs talking about AI and hopefully they will tune into SyTyCD show.

Nigel noticed that the message boards have been a little slow, so he’s just giving peeps something to talk about. I don’t believe for a second that he really thinks David needs a personality.

Think about it guys. It makes no sense for Nigel to be dissing the winner of American Idol. It’s like Nigel dissing Ford, Coca-Cola or Itunes.

I do not put much stock in Nigel’s opinion. Didn’t he make an extremely inappropriate comment about Kelly Pickner (?)’s implants as one of the reasons of her success?

I think he’s trying to create controversy.

Finally, someone official from 19 is speaking on Archie’s behalf. I was getting tired of all the “unofficial” stuff being spread by his team and was wondering when DA’s real management would yank on the leash.

Interesting how Salt Lake Tribune didn’t pick up on Roger’s statement about the conflict w/contractual obligations being the reason for cancellation, and instead stated that calls to 19 weren’t returned.

LOL at Nigel stirring the pot. He does love to be the topic of conversation!

Nige is just pissy because he heard David Cook mimic his accent, lol.

LOL This was the first thing I thought too! The second thing was fuck off Nigel!

Wait till Cook or Archie get some more serious criticism than just not being “personalities.” Cook especially as the winner is in the big leagues. Just like every other artist, he’ll get his share of pans as well as accolades. At least Cook’s fans will be spared Simon telling the S8 crew to park their gum on his portrait and all the comments about “America getting it wrong”.

Nigel is one strange pup. I think DC (and DA) have personality and charisma. People enjoy being around them, hearing them talk, laughing at their jokes. I don’t know what more Nigel wants from them.

And Daddy Archie cracks me up. He thought he could do a concert without AI permission. Hell WE all know you can’t do anything without AI permission. How could he not know. Maybe he was doing the “it’s easier to beg forgiveness than to ask permission” thing. Moron. Poor Archie.

BTW Nigel,

DC’s Rainbow song is number 1 on the Billboard digital chart and number 3 on the hot 100. How do you explain that!?

About Archie’s concert cancellation:

This explains a bit more about the reason for the cancellation–it was not an issue with TPTB at Idol or 19E. It was the booking agent for the E Center that cancelled the show—simply because the second AI Tour date wasn’t sold out. So it was about dilution (and money) but not on Idol’s part but on the booking agent’s part.

http://www.myfoxutah.com/myfox/

yes, he may be very involved in his son’s career, but that does not make him a horrible man. remember all the comments about the “beautiful girls” line added to stand by me? Archie said himself in an interview that it was never his dad’s idea…it was the guys he was rehearsing with that suggested it….as in, people that actually WORK for Idol!

Actually, according to MyFoxUtah:

The cancellation is simply venue booking issue, not an issue with 19E, TPTB or any binding contract with the show.

I can buy the booking mistake (or maybe an event was canceled for DA’s, then put back on once the concert was a no-go) on top of the contract conflict, but not that Roger Widynowski flat out lied.

eta: the latest story I see on the event at the MyFox Utah site says this:

But a legal conflict has forced the cancellation of the event. “I was sitting there with Jeff [Archuleta] and they were saying there’s no way this is going to happen. It got a little heated,” said Brett Hales, a spokesman for the Archuleta family.

I’m not saying that DA’s team are bad people, but they need to let the pros handle Archie’s career from here on out, cause they’re making a mess of it so far.

NO NO! It is not personality that he needs! I think what Nigel is trying to say is to put more emotions into what Cook is singing. I felt that toward the end of the show. I really liked it when he sang “Happy Together.” You can tell that he was into the music and making it believable that he is in fact Happy to be Together. “Hello” was another one he made believable. You know those back and forth motion, those eyes staring at you, biting his bottom lips after singing (Sometimes I’ve kissed your lips, a thousand times). Well you get what I’m saying :wink_wp:
Cook even said he didn’t know that person singing “Happy Together”. But I wish he would look back again and learn from it because I love him. I don’t want him to get boring.

So it was about dilution (and money) but not on Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s part but on the booking agentà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s part.

That sounds like spin. If people haven’t bought tickets to the $35 (and up) show yet, cancelling the $1 show won’t encourage them to do so.

“That sounds like spin. If people havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t bought tickets to the $35 (and up) show yet, cancelling the $1 show wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t encourage them to do so.”

It might….why buy a $35 ticket to see all the Idols when you can pay $1 to see just Archie, assuming that’s who they want to see. By cancelling the concert, they’ll have to buy a $35 ticket to see him.

Ayla Brown: from American Idol to a Technicolor Dreamcoat

…Along with playing gigs whenever she can (singing songs from her 2006 album à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Forwardà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ), she has somehow found the time to join the cast of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  a Reagle Players production that will play from June 12-21 in Waltham…

Think about it guys. It makes no sense for Nigel to be dissing the winner of American Idol. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s like Nigel dissing Ford, Coca-Cola or Itunes.

Wouldn’t be anything new. He and Simon are still dissing Taylor, more than two years later.

It mightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.why buy a $35 ticket to see all the Idols when you can pay $1 to see just Archie, assuming thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s who they want to see. By cancelling the concert, theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll have to buy a $35 ticket to see him.

Yeah, that makes sense. It also would have made sense for them to have cleared this idea with the tour booking company before announcing it.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not saying that DAà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s team are bad people, but they need to let the pros handle Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s career from here on out, cause theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re making a mess of it so far.

So true. I don’t know how they didn’t consider that there might be a problem with David having a concert in the same venue where the AI tour will be appearing. Especially since the tour is not yet sold out in that venue.

But still, none of it addresses the fact that this concert was supposed to have occured on the same day David’s supposed to be in LA for tour rehearsal.

so enough of the bashing of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“daddy archuletaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . yes, he may be very involved in his sonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s career, but that does not make him a horrible man

I find Daddy Archie bashing way too much fun to stop now

Interesting thing that in different articles you hear about David’s voice coach, David’s music arranger and now a family spokesperson. How many people focused on his kid’s career does Daddy Archie employ exactly?

Cute video of Jason.

I said on another blog yesterday that I wondered if Jeff A. was behind that concert. Looks like he was. The Idols will be performing in Utah on July 14 and other venues between July 1 and Sep. somthing. DA and the other Idols will have plenty of chances to say thank you to their fans. Jeff needs to go by the AI rules until his son is out of his contract. I’ve never heard of any other Idols giving concerts before the tour unless TPTB approved of it, (like David Cook’s Walmart appearance.)

I find Cook’s comment in The National Ledger that women should get to know him (before finding him attractive, I guess) amusing. Poor guy will have to adjust to the attention.

Cook, who says he’s “single-ish”, finds all of the female attention “very, very new.”

And odd. “I’m thinking, where was that before the show?” he jokes. “I’m just a nerd. I’m a goofball. You guys might want to get to know me a little bit more.” A lot of women would like to take Cook up on that.

GwendolynD
Jun 4th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Soà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦proceeds from the Archie concert would go to charity? Was a charity specified?

Yes, it was the Jeff Archuleta Foundation for greedy, money grubbing stage parents. p

I wonder how many times Jeff has to get thumped by the AI powers that be before he gets the message. BACK OFF.

“You guys might want to get to know me a little bit more.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

I accept your invitation. Let the stalking begin.

It mightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.why buy a $35 ticket to see all the Idols when you can pay $1 to see just Archie, assuming thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s who they want to see. By cancelling the concert, theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll have to buy a $35 ticket to see him.

Except that the Idol tour tickets have been on sale for weeks now and this little imprompto Archie show is a relatively new development. I’m guessing the crowd for the $1 show was composed mostly of people who already bought Idol tix and people who can’t afford Idol tix.

Nigel surely did get his wish today. The pot is being stirred and is boiling over. :shuteye_ee:

If Nigel would like the contestants to show more on-stage charisma, maybe he should tell Simon to stop bashing the contestants whenever they try to show a little personality on the stage. David Cook’s performance of Day Tripper was one of the best performances on AI EVER, and Simon called him smug and ripped him apart for it. Yes, how many words CAN you use to say the same thing, Simon? “Smug,” “pompous,” “arrogant,” etc.? If Simon had praised David for his commanding stage presence rather than running him down, I’m sure there wouldn’t have been all the hateful comments all over the boards every time Simon made those derogatory statements. I don’t blame David for toning things down after a while, but I missed the joie de vivre he displayed in his earlier performances.

Hopefully now that he doesn’t have to get critiqued after every performance, David will be able to show more of that dynamic personality that won me over to begin with.

Oh pu-leeze.

Does every great musician have to be a smiley face jester? Or a bubbly twinkie? Tell me what kind of big personality Carrie Underwood has — or is it enough to be a blonde and skinny-glam when it comes to female performers?

This PO’s me because it sadly confirms that AI does want to be a personality contest rather than a music contest. Good musicians pour their personality into their music, and David C. is among them. Sex appeal aside (and obviously neither Nigel nor Simon has a clue how attractive Mr. Cook is to women), it’s all about the music, baby! You’d a thunk they learned that by now, given the tremendous reception to Cook’s win….

“I wonder how many times Jeff has to get thumped by the AI powers that be before he gets the message. BACK OFF”

If you actually watch the foxutah video, it says they got the go-ahead from Idol. It was the venue that didn’t want it to happen.

Well Nigel, I’m still laughing at the terrified look Archie shot Cook after Mike Myers comment about growing hair “in wonderful places” and the shaving cream catch and crack-up. Then we have the endearing hug between them after the winner was announced but maybe you prefer to have more moments like Cook drinking from a wine bottle while Archie is wielding and ice pick? Eh, they’re all good.. so shut up.

I wonder if Nigel is somewhere in cyberspace surfing the net and rubbing his hands together over how much he’s riled fans up, LOL. That’s tricksy, Nige, really tricksy. He’s the one that lacks personality but he’s savvy. Two weeks later and he’s still got AI in the entertainment headlines.

Ok after my little rant (actually just wanting to make fun of Nigel), I was thinking about it and if you go back and watch Shop Around and David’s first Imagine and David Cooks first song, they had more personality when they performed.. especially David A. He even gave a little head shake in Shop Around! They just were comfortable with their songs and not mired down by themes and hit with the stress of the competition yet.

KUTV

Tuesday afternoon, Archuleta’s agent — Roger Widynowski — said there would be no concert due to contractural obligations between the 17-year-old and American Idol.

Widynowski did not go into detail as to why Archuleta could not perform at the E Center — but just said that the Murray High School student simply could not appear at the non-American Idol sanctioned event.

David A frequently looked scared to death when he wasn’t singing, but even that is a personality. Plus he showed in recent weeks that he can be very funny. David C was brimming over with personality every time he opened his mouth, whether to sing or crack wise or just goofing around in the backstage videos. The parade of press post-Idol has shown his personality even more (couch joke on Leno, Best Week Ever), making Nigel’s comments even more idiotic.

Nigel is just trying to keep the buzz going during this downtime and get people watching SYTYCD. Because, seriously, with MJ and Carly and Jason and Brooke, not to mention the two Davids, there was PLENTY of personality in this year’s cast.

I’m not kidding when I threaten to ban. Peeps who continue to bait and goad their fellow posters, even after warnings are GONE.

BYE!

But what the heck does “personality” mean? Consider one’s favorite musicians and the “personality” they project on stage. I love the music of Ray Lamontagne, who has such stage fright he can barely speak a word between songs. Other terrific musicians I could name in droves don’t have the gift of gab onstage, nor do they jump or dance around. They just sound wonderful, and move people with their music. Isn’t that what it’s really all about? And for me, anyway, David C. has a low-key charm onstage that I can get into.

Yeah, maybe Nigel’s just being “tricksy.” And I took the bait…

Niegles rant makes me to not want to tune into “So you think you can dance” now. *snorts*

I like Nigel’s personality on SYTYCD. It’s hard to believe he’s the same “evil” Nigel from Idol. I have to keep reminding myself they’re one and the same person.

I think Team Archie will keep him tabloid fodder for the summer. They’re kind of wacky.

I actually like Nigel on “So You Think You Can Dance”. He has a vast knowledge and deep appreciation for all forms of dance.

PLUS, he’s more honest about how the show is run. He’s made it VERY clear from the get go that HE has the final say on who gets put through and who gets to stay each week. Which is probably what they do on Idol but they keep pretending like it’s all up to America.

I am a long-time lurker, but this DA fiasco finally motivated me to post. I had a queasy feeling from the moment I heard about the concert. I just knew that it wasn’t going to end well (I hoped that I was wrong). I do think that this event was planned with the best of intentions, and I imagine that it snowballed in size and scope, so it’s quite possible that there might have been some verbal agreement in the beginning before the details were well known to TPTB. Or maybe not … we’ll probably never know. I just hope that it’s obvious now to DA’s home team that it’s time to step back and hand his management over to the professionals. Another disaster like this could really ruin things for DA, especially as he’s trying to get his record deal put together. And that would be a terrible shame, because I believe that if he were allowed to make his own decisions (musically, at least) he could really put out a great CD.

I will say that I don’t think Jeff is a monster. I imagine he’s like half of the parents in the bleachers at my son’s little league games – overzealous on the sidelines but perfectly nice away from the game. Unfortunately the stakes are a lot higher for DA than they are for the average 8-year-old shortstop.

Poor David.

Oh, and re: the intended benefactors of the concert – I read somewhere that the proceeds were to have been divided between the MS Research Foundation and the Make-a-Wish Foundation.

after he drags you to his cave by your hair

abbysee, where do I sign up?

This would make me want to watch SYTYCD how?

American Idol the show is not a good venue to judge performers’ personalities. They’re so exhausted and stressed, all they’re thinking about when they get up on stage is getting through their songs without getting ripped a new one. Carrie’s a great example. She’s a great live performer now. Archie’s another one; he came across as an unformed, immature boy on the show, and in interviews he’s proven to be a lot deeper than that. Cook will have plenty of opportunity to show who he really is now, and he already is.

What the hell, Nigel? Fine, you want personality? You can have it. Just note, you asshat, the peeps who happen to have any aforementioned “personality” tend to get kicked off the show first (you know I love you, Danny, but hi there). Besides, I don’t think I could stand 24 contestants who’d do nothing but bicker with the judges. Backtalk with the judges is a major turn-off for me, personally.

(((DC’s mommy))) When time comes for me to have kids, I don’t think I’d like to see my friends hitting on them, either. lol

Sheesh can I have some of whatever Nigel has been taking please?

Just so you know, I am old, seriously I can’t take any more personality from DC it will be the death of me! The death!

Nice stirring Nigel, nice stirring

Hope it’s okay to post this here… if not, delete me MJ.

I saw Josh Hoge in concert last night. He mentioned that Blake Lewis was pushing his label hard to get Know My Name (Josh either wrote or co-wrote it) as his next single. Just thought some of the Blake fans here might be interested.

Chris Rich also performed at the show. At the end it was more of a comedy routine than a concert – Chris continually bringing shots up on stage to Josh. During Chris’s set he sang Lovestoned by JT… very nice!

You know, that headline on the OK story is a tiny bit misleading. Nigel never said, “David Cook Needs a Personality!” He is quoted as saying he wished David showed a little more personality when he was singing. That’s quite a bit different. Hard to believe that a tabloid rag would twist a quote, but there you go.

So , Nigel thinks DC is lacking personality ? I think Nigel should remove his head from his rectal oraface . He is delirious from inhaling his own flatulance . Poor confused Nigel , someone should help him to his room where he can have his warm prune juice and lie down . Oh yes , and while your at it Nigel , have Simon join you in a hot prune toddy , he also appears anal retentive and a real pain in the posterior.
As far as Amandas personality goes , yes she has a personality but it is like that of a rattlesnake being teased with a stick.
:devil_tb:

OMFG. I just heard Magic Rainbow on my local top 40 station. I was making the spaghetti that I’m having for dinner and all of a sudden, there is DC out on the edge of forever ‘n stuff, sandwiched between “Lollipop” (ewww) and Gavin DeGraw (MUCH better). I was pretty surprised. It took them FOREVER to play even “Tattoo” last year, much less “This is My No.” Whoa. I wonder if they’ve added it to rotation… I will have to check.

ETA:

I saw Josh Hoge in concert last night. He mentioned that Blake Lewis was pushing his label hard to get Know My Name (Josh either wrote or co-wrote it) as his next single. Just thought some of the Blake fans here might be interested.

*sniff* “Know My Name” should have been the FIRST single. Unfortunately, I don’t think there is any hope for a third after the dismal showing at radio for the first two.

But yeah, Josh, Ryan Tedder, and Blake all have writing credit on KMN. It’s my favorite song on the album. Has been since the first time I heard it.

Lu, did you tell my boyfriend that I said hello??

Lu, thanks for the info. As much as I enjoy Blake’s album and love “Know My Name,” I’d be shocked if he gets a third single. I’ll be shocked if he’s not dropped soon. Hope I’m wrong.

I saw Josh Hoge last November in Toronto when he opened for Elliott Yamin. He was great! I recorded and posted some of his performances to Youtube.

Well I have a new headline, dammit.
I went over a week (I think) w/o bringing her up, but you guys have got to see the story of Cookie going w/ KC to the dodgers game. Maybe MJ can find and link it, if not I will try.
Anyway, from a dodger fan/spectator’s view of things, Cookie was very gracious w/ the fans… KC? Not so much.
Run Cookie run… run like the wind!!!!!

Cooktard, I found this about the game, Cook, and Caldwell.

http://gamedame.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/the-dodgers-and-david-cook/

Thanks dfc for the DC/KC link!!

You’re welcome, Jess. I think Kim is pretty, but boy does she have an attitude. DC can do better than her imo.

Well talk about winning friends and influencing people….lol!!

DC can do better than her imo.

Hopefully, he’ll figure it out!! I wouldn’t mind seeing him go out with Mandy Moore. She seems to be on the sweeter side. To bad it’s not up to me. LOL

How long before Cook dumps that girl? I’ve heard she was annoying from other sources, and, so it seems they were right, according to that blogger. What a skank! Wouldn’t even give autographs, and, there was Cook, fresh off the AI win, signing his. She only came in 7th place during her run. Who does she think she is?

Oh, and, if Nigel thinks Cook needs a personality, why don’t they just buy him one with all the money they’re gonna make off of his career?

She only came in 7th place during her run. Who does she think she is?

Somebody who is trying to have a date? Somebody trying to enjoy a baseball game? Somebody who would like to have a life?

Just because she finished 7th on a TV show doesn’t mean she has to choose between being a hermit or spending her entire time outside of the house signing autographs and smiling on command. Sure, it was nice that Cookie did it, but remember it’s all new to him. He too might grow to resent it if it continues for the next 5 years.

I think it’s extraordinarily rude to go up to somebody who is clearly on a date and ask them for their autograph. I honestly cannot believe that people think that is normal behaviour.

Far from being a skank, she seems to be somebody who is trying to set boundaries. Instead of always being ready to do whatever anybody wants, she is insisting on having a life. She’s already paying the price of fame by having people report on how her hair apparently doesn’t pass the muster and how many times she has to go for a smoke.

Disclaimer: I don’t even like Kim Caldwell.

I attempted to edit my last post,and, it wouldn’t let me, so, I had to start a new one.

Let me see if I have this right. Jason was getting through based on his “charm.” Does that equal personality? Cook won, and, lacks personality? (according to Nigel) But, this isn’t a personality contest, is it?

Color me confused. :glurps_tb:

Somebody who is trying to have a date? Somebody trying to enjoy a baseball game? Somebody who would like to have a life?

She knew when she signed the contract that this would be the deal. I can’t feel sorry for famous people for having to deal with being famous. If she doesn’t want people to ask her for autographs, she might want to consider getting a job in the private sector.
Sorry, this is a pet peeve of mine. It’s not like people were hanging around her house or peeking in her windows.

She knew when she signed the contract that this would be the deal. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t feel sorry for famous people for having to deal with being famous. If she doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want people to ask her for autographs, she might want to consider getting a job in the private sector.

Just because people ask her for autographs doesn’t mean she has to give them.

At this point, it’s a little late to consider a private sector job. People will probably still recognize her (okay, maybe not her, but other famous people might not be able to hide in the private sector). What kind of Faustian deal is this? If you once wanted to be famous, you can never go back? People have the right to ask you for autographs whenever they like? At a restaurant? On a date? At your kid’s little league game? On your way in to surgery? And, should you ever say “No, I’m sorry, I can’t give you an autograph because, actually, my arm was chopped off and I’m about to go into surgery before I bleed to death, could you please get out of the way of the nurses?”, you will be called a skank.

People need to learn how not to be rude. Should you see a famous person sitting at a table at a book or CD signing, by all means, hound them for an autograph. If they are on a date, maybe it’s not the best time. Maybe you should give them some privacy. Put yourselves in their shoes. They don’t have to always be ON. They do get to have some time off.

Just wait until the Idol tour starts and we get to hear stories about how rude each of the Idols are because they didn’t do EXACTLY what some person wanted to do at the EXACT moment they wanted them to do it.

No kidding, I overheard one person bitterly complaining about how much they hated one Idol and that that Idol was so mean. Turns out, this Idol had come out for a half hour to sign autographs and pose for pictures. This Idol had signed 2 items for this person. Then, after the Idol went in for the sound check, this person decided that they just had to get an autograph for their friend, but the Idol didn’t come out again. So, they were labeled rude and mean. Some people never let up.

ETA:

Sorry, this is a pet peeve of mine. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not like people were hanging around her house or peeking in her windows.

You might be very surprised.

Besides, I don’t think famous people have to spend their entire lives locked in their houses with the drapes drawn. They should be able to leave the house without being hounded by people.

Seriously, why do people need the autographs? It’s an honest question. I can’t imagine that many of them get framed and displayed in the living room. I suspect that most of those autographs just end up in a recycling box. Whatever. I simply do not understand why anybody thinks they have the right to bug somebody during a date simply because they HAVE to have a piece of paper with their signature on it. Seems a little selfish to me.

Well, she had sung the Nat’l Anthem before the game, so she should’ve expected some Attu coming her way… ::shrug::

^^^ What Kirsten said.

One blogger’s take on Kim Caldwell should not be taken as truth. Who knows what really happened?

No matter. DC should be able to date the woman of his choice.

Well, she had sung the Natà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢l Anthem before the game, so she shouldà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve expected some Attu coming her wayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ ::shrug::

Agreed.

If they are on a date, maybe ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not the best time. Maybe you should give them some privacy. Put yourselves in their shoes. They donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have to always be ON. They do get to have some time off.

To further expand on this, even the waiters and waitresses come by to “fill water glasses” or see if you need anything waaaay too often. It is very hard to relax like this. I feel sorry for Dave C right now. It will take some adjusting.

Love Kirsten’s post. “Fans” will find every little bit wrong with the poor girl. I hope she doesn’t read the boards. When Cook inevitably breaks up with her and moves to the next one, surprise, that one is going to be a skank, too. Until, you know, nobody cares about him or his dating life anymore.

Interrupting the Caldwell discussion to say there are scans posted tonight of what is a 4 page layout on Cookie in the upcoming People magazine
http://community.livejournal.com/davidcookai7/349636.html
Words fail me :eek_wp: :jittery_tb: I almost feel ashamed to admit one picture made me gasp out loud.

I almost feel ashamed to admit one picture made me gasp out loud.

The couch?

Thank you, People Magazine.

I have seen the Cook pics!
OMG!!! Man has a CFM look and I am willing!

Trina, you’re my hero. Those are great shots of him, thanks for the link. And after reading the article, I love this guy even more.

Trina,
Thanks for those. C is for Cookie:)

Ah, slowly they turn, step by step…..

Regarding the DC-KC take me out to the ballgame-

I agree with what Kirsten said and pj’s ‘me too’. I also agree with what Holly said because I think the answer is in the middle.

No matter how they ended up famous and no matter how their feelings change about that fame, the fact is they’re famous on some level and they need to act accordingly and with some grace.

That doesn’t apply to anyone crossing property lines, peeking in windows – you’re average stalker. Probably doesn’t apply when you’re in a restaurant in a secluded corner either. But — a baseball game and you’re exposed. Get ready and give with a freakin’ smile.

What the hell is Nigel babbling about? I’ve seen a lot of Cook’s appearances since his win and he’s been great. He’s funny, smart and articulate and I always thought he had charisma on stage. Simon was way off on that one. These people seem impossible to please.

Whoever put up the DC photo’s — he looks fine! — but didn’t know what to do with a pdf file (which can be edited in adobe programs) —

resave it as a jpeg, tif, gif, png and post.

(can be resaved using windows too, just can’t edit it).

I agree with what Kirsten said and pj’s ‘me too’. I also agree with what Holly said because I think the answer is in the middle. No matter how they ended up famous and no matter how their feelings change about that fame, the fact is theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re famous on some level and they need to act accordingly and with some grace.

I am in total agreeance, Caro. I have no idea how KC was really behaving at that game, but if she was rude as she was declining autographs, well–Not Cool Zeus.

But à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  a baseball game and youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re exposed. Get ready and give with a freakinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ smile.

Yep.

Whoever put up the DC photoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  he looks fine! à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  but didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know what to do with a pdf file (which can be edited in adobe programs) à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ 

resave it as a jpeg, tif, gif, png and post.

(can be resaved using windows too, just canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t edit it).

I”m going to post some very nice caro-approved images of those pictures on Friday when I get my copy of the magazine. .

You do it mj !

Nice couch!!! Very nice.

whew!

David Cook’s Analog Heart CD sells for $2125.35 tonight on ebay!
Part of the proceeds are being donated to Relay For Life to benefit the American Cancer Society. If you search the completed files, enter David Cook Analog Heart CD to see this item.

This must be a record amount for an Independent CD sold. It was also authenticated by the Seller to be original and came directly from David Cook himself. It was sealed, but not autographed. The previous record for this same item sold for $835. on May 26, 2008. Talk about impressive numbers!

Happy to see support for authentic, Original CD’s being sold. Bootleg CD’s give nothing to the artist and are illegal.
Whether Cook decides to re-release Analog Heart or include some of the tracks on his new CD, this carries tremendous validation for his creative work.
Kudos to David for this fine effort. In this case, he originally sold the CD and was compensated for his work. It was then resold on ebay with proceeds going to charity. Win-Win situation here!!

If you have any doubts if you are buying an authentic Analog Heart CD on ebay, please see the following ebay guide and vote for it if you agree.

Ebay

Words fail me

Before I came here, I was just reading my friend’s text message to me regarding these very photos…she says she is “unable 2 say anything clever.” She has not replied to my message yet…she must have fainted and has yet to come to again. LOL

About the pics, yep David knows how to work a camera that is for sure, lol.

David Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Analog Heart CD sells for $2125.35 tonight on ebay!

!!!! Your serious, Holy Smokes. !!!!!

While I do agree with Kirsten on not bothering famous people while eating, (this one is a particular pet peeve with me) Kim Caldwell should be proud that someone thought she was well known enough to get an autograph. When she should worry is when no one asks her for one. And, with that attitude, it probably won’t take long. She may end up asking people if they want one.

Personally, I don’t get the big deal over getting an autograph either. Are people just getting them to sell on ebay in the future? I have enough clutter in my house without adding to it. (ok, just in one room)

Kim just sang the National Anthem, that made her autograph worthy in some people’s minds. Then to say she wasn’t working? Did I miss something here? She was working, but, also on a date. Maybe she asked Cook to attend the game with her. But, whatever, I still think it would’ve just taken a minute to make a fan happy. That one fan will tell 5 other people, who will tell 5 more, then those 25 will tell, and, on and on, and, on. Very bad pr on her behalf. IMO

Yes, it’s true! See ebay #ebay#150254350668 for the recent Analog Heart CD sold at $2125.35.

WOO-HOO!!

I can maybe understand if the $2125.35 spent on that CD mostly went to charity, with the purchaser knowing fully well the purpose thereof, but does the money spent on the other $500 AH albums sold on eBay (mentioned in the link) go the same way? If not, that seems like a little too much money to pay, IMO.

Guitar Hero (ginormous)

If not, that seems like a little too much money to pay, IMO.

Especially when downloading it for free is So. Very. Easy. LOL.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ m going to post some very nice caro-approved images of those pictures on Friday when I get my copy of the magazine. .

Oh, thank you so much, mj!
I’ve been looking for better quality scans for the past 20 minutes… LOL. Should’ve known to come check here first.

Thanks Colleen- I followed the instructions and I (sincerely hope) got an original AH just now on eBay…

The money this man is going to cost me throughout his career… hehehe

This batch lacked personality? What are they looking for? 12 more Picklers?

Especially when downloading it for free is So. Very. Easy. LOL.

Ouch. Touche! LOL

In my defense (heh), if I were a cooktard, I’d readily pay for it, too (hey, I was not even of the Soul Patrol but I shelled out $39 for Taylor’s In Your Time physical album, only for Taylor to later come to Manila and sell it for under $15, pffft!), but those eBay prices just really seem a little too exorbitant to me (and I don’t think it’s just because I’m poor). :tongue1_tb:

If you ask me (I know no one did, lol) I think we are having a Brit ego battle here. NL is evidently pushing his dance show while Simon Cowell sits and brews. And it ain’t gonna be pretty.

Simon Fuller recently said that DC will be the biggest star Idol ever had and that has to include talent *and* charisma.

Lithgoe wants his little dance festival to be bitter. I look for more rumors: about NL coming from Fuller and maybe a divorce in the making. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you?

Just remember this is the same DC who received 56 million votes in the largest amount ever received by a contestant.

I don’t know how *big* Lithgoe is in the Idol machine, but I do expect some repercussions. Talk about trying to kill the goose that *will* lay some huge golden eggs. For shame, Nigel!

“Lithgoe wants his little dance festival to be bitter.” That is BETTER not bitter. Sorry about that. Maybe it was a Freudian slip, lol. I suppose I am expecting a lot of bitterness.

I see you girls have discovered the People Mag scans. heh The couch pic has killed the majority of the fanbase! :wub_tb:

There are scans posted tonight of what is a 4 page layout on Cookie in the upcoming People magazine
http://community.livejournal.com/davidcookai7/349636.html
Words fail me I almost feel ashamed to admit one picture made me gasp out loud.

At this rate, I’ll never get out of rehab.

Okay, this has been bugging me, gotta vent.

So Nigel says à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“He can certainly sing à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d like to see a bit more personality when heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s singing,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  he said. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“And that was the only thing that I think our finalists lacked a little bit this year, was more charisma.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  OK Magazine decides to twist that into the headline “Nigel Lythgoe: ‘David Cook Needs a Personality’” and my local radio station (Minneapolis) says this morning (paraphrasing now) that producers (yes, plural) say that Cook doesn’t have the personality to go far.

I’m sick of what the media does.

Cookie has certainly learned quickly how to work the camera, lol. And his responses about the “cougars” question has, I’m sure, certainly endeared him to said “cougars” even more. (for the record, even though I’m not a cougar, I dislike that label as well).

Yeah, Ok did embroider Lithgoe’s remarks too much, but NL did *feed* the animals and his remarks (while greatly exagerrated in the headlines) were completely unwarranted and out of place. I am a Cook fan all the way, and he got an enormous amount of votes, but Lithoe’s remarks even about the giggling Archie didn’t make much sense when you consider that they garnered almost 100 million votes between them.

Methinks me smells a rat in NL. A jealous rat. Some people never have enough, I would suppose. And it goes without saying the media/animals will pump up every remark and blow it completely out of proportion. NL knew what he was saying. He should have his tongue ripped out, LOL and the media, well, a few turns on the rack wouldn’t do them any harm and might do them some good.

“One must believe none of what they read and only half of what they see” seems to ring true more and more!

My HAC station is now playing TOML! They were apparently getting a lot of requests for it going by what the DJ said.

wow, that couch look in People mag. I thought I had gone through a rehab and was back to my normal life. Hell, no. How can I quit this Cookie addiction? Please help me!!!

For the KimCook going on another date (the Dodgers game) again, was that true? I checked the link and the article was gone. But I can still google it and read the cache.

Somehow I don’t/refuse to believe it’s true. I assume Cookie is a smart guy and that he knows by now the KimCook affair shouldn’t be doing him any good and we can see he is trying to tone down everything. Now, he showed up in the Dodger’s game with her and basically every single person who went there could watch a more exciting game than the Dodgers? I would rather believe that it’s some Kim hater trying to take a revenge on her “dating Cookie”.

I am not saying DC shouldn’t be dating Kim. But he should be smart enough to find a more secluded place (than at the Dodgers game!! and Chris Ruth!) for a date.

How can I quit this Cookie addiction?

You can’t. Cook is your crack, lol.

And it goes without saying the media/animals will pump up every remark and blow it completely out of proportion. NL knew what he was saying. He should have his tongue ripped out, LOL and the media, well, a few turns on the rack wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t do them any harm and might do them some good.

Just don’t send the fireants. That would be crossing the line.

I’m always a little creeped out when I read OTT statements by Idol fans who wish bad things upon me, just because I criticized their favorites.

Nigel is a tool. Look at him, his idea of personality is cemented firmly in the 70′s. And pointless since he has no part in David’s career from here on out.

Nigel’s comments can be translated into “The ratings were down this season so let’s blame the contestants.” The finale ratings were actually the 3rd highest, behind seasons 2 & 5, which points to the strength of the contenders.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know how *big* Lithgoe is in the Idol machine, but I do expect some repercussions. Talk about trying to kill the goose that *will* lay some huge golden eggs. For shame, Nigel!

Nigel is one of the executive producers, above everybody else on stage. He may answer to Simon Fuller, but he certainly doesn’t answer to anybody else.

Well, Simon Fuller has been running around town bragging about how much money David Cook is going to make for him, so I wouldn’t worry about this thing too much.

And according to

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/articl…t_id=1003812812

David Cook broke another Billboard record, so for a guy without a personality, he
seems to be doing pretty well for himself. I doubt Magic Rainbows is ever going to hit #1 on Top 40, but Nigel doesn’t seem to be killing his radio play. RCA seems to pretty stoked to be pushing this coronation song as hard as they are.