Idol Headlines for 4/18/08

I had an entire rant prepared, but I will just say Carmen, stfu! Please!

Wow. Carmen was certainly candid about how much help she got.

I am sure that the demands of publicity now really take up all the time that season 1 and 2 contestants had to work just on their songs. David Archuleta would have memorized “We Can Work it out” if he wasn’t busy doing other video packages and Idol extra and Ford commercials.

Which may make them select semi-pro ringers in all seasons to come who will have some idea of how to knuckle down and do all of this extra work.

The deeper problem with this season specifically IMHO is the way it’s gotten totally divorced from what the indivduals are as singers and/or musicians. They’ve been too directed with themes that have nothing to do with their identities as performers, and the only real spaks happen when a couple of them do contorted swan dives to assert their own personalities.

Off topic, but I am super bummed. I have tickets for the Sat. Show in Orlando.
My condolences to the Federici family, Bruce and the members of the E-Street Band.

http://entertainment.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=310116&affid=100055

On Andyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s proposal, which actually originally happened on March 15à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦
Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s kind of hard to get out without having to go with the bodyguards and stuff, so he came over and hung out at the apartment and said letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s go talk. Pretty much everywhere we went there were people around, but there was the sauna. The sauna was turned on but the light was off, so we went in there and talked and, yes, he proposed to me in the sauna.

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Kristy Lee Cook… I thought this was cute.

Why was Clive replaced? Will he still have his hands in AI ? Will we see Mr. Weiss sitting at the finals table? Hmm….. Inquiring minds want to know and sooner than later it’s going to come out.

My guess: His continuing allegiance to Whitney Houston who hasn’t fulfilled her contract. His age (possibly). And the changing music business. What will this do to Jennifer Hudson’s contract which is 3 years old and she hasn’t recorded anything? Is Fantasia in trouble contract wise? Clive absolutely loved Fantasia….will the new guy?

Dunkelman quit?? I always assumed he was fired (since it was ridiculous to have two male hosts). As for Carmen, I can’t wait for the day a few of these contestants get together and write a tell-all book!

I believe Carmen. Whats she got to gain by lying? We see how they do them onstage, the manipulations, not beyond disbelief to me it goes on behind the scenes as well.

Congrats to Kristy on her engagement, but if it was paranoid me, lol, I would be suspect of any marriage proposal that didn’t occur until I made top 10 with financial gain and a career in site.

Well, technically Tyler, he asked her four days before Amanda was booted so it was before she made the top 10. I certainly hope he asked for all the right reasons!

I agree, why would Carmen make this up? Also, in one of Kristy Lee’s exit interviews she mentions that the whole week she was working on Eight Days a Week, everyone kept telling her how great it was. Why didn’t someone tell her the truth?

Mocha, actually the “everyone” was the band not the judges. And to them it was “great”….and actually when you think about it …. it was “different” not great.

Not sure if mj has already posted anything on this, but did anyone else see the bit on the Today show where Naomi Judd told David Archuletta’s dad to back off and mentioned problems with him when she was a Star Search judge? I just happened to catch this on the TV Guide channel, and now I see it is getting mentioned in the media. It was really surprising, she just sort of threw the comments out there unexpectedly and she ignored the hosts’ attempts to move on. So I guess the rumors about him being a stage dad are true….

Here’s the link to the Naomi Judd interview from vftw — she does a shout out to the Dad and says ‘ he’s the worst…..

Vote For the Worst

ABBYSEE–no amount of coaching would have helped Carmen. She just doesn’t “get it”!

And..after watching this show since day one, what idiot actually thinks there is any sense of equity among the contestents???

And..after watching this show since day one, what idiot actually thinks there is any sense of equity among the contestents???

Oooo you’d be surprised. Ever been to the scary boards/IDF? most of them are dumb/delusional enough to believe there’s nothing fabricated about it.

Former_AI–point taken. There are definitely lots of dumb people in the world today! Perhaps they are just “young”???

The David A dad could be the reason he’s not a star….has anybody thought about that? I mean he’s all over the internet giving command performances to Kelly Clarkson and god knows who else (betcha dad put him up to that!). He’s seen playing the piano, writing / singing songs, yet….no one has signed him….he’s not with Disney which is the #1 teen producers….so what do you think Dad is a good reason why?

Chicagosally…good point. The son of a friend of mine was a dancer. She was a HORRIBLE stage mom…no one would touch her son!

NY Post

A bit more info/possible fallout from Clive’s demotion

I know people automatically think “Disney” when they see David because he’s so young and LOOKS even younger. But I don’t.

Disney artists are usually light hearted, fun, peppy, spunky and have tons of personality – like Miley Cyrus or the Jonas Brothers. They’re EXTREMELY confident and self-possessed.

I don’t see that in David. All I see is a uncomfortably awkward kid with a good voice.

My sister lives in la la land and still thinks everything is “real” on AI. She gets really mad at me when I tell her differently. and she is over 50 years old!!

David’s dad might not be the reason David hasn’t been signed yet.

I used to want to be a singer/songwriter/recording artist. I moved to Nashville to try to make my dreams come true. I met a LOT of talented people who have never made it. As we have seen with American Idol, IT’S NOT JUST TALENT that a person needs. Many ingredients all work together to make a person desirable to a record company.

Well, I just found out that David A was singing great, current song choices by artists like Gnarls Barkley and John Mayer early on in the season. It made me wonder why he switched to the dreck he’s singing now. Then I saw this quote attributed to David’s aunt:

It has never been about money, fame or anything other than striving to use it as a way to touch people and help heal spiritual problems through the light he exudes when he performs and also just when he is around people.

Jeez. If the Message Songs really are part of some “mission via AI” then that’s just stupid. If Archie were singing the same types of songs he apparently was choosing before (seems more likely to me HE was actually choosing THOSE songs) then combined with his voice and his Cute, he’d be unstoppable. I might even be a fan!

They showed a clip of Archie’s audition (or Hollywood) singing Mayer (Waiting on the World to Change). I’d say that has a message, lol. Danger Mouse wouldn’t let “Crazy” clear for Jason, David or Alex. Part of the “contemporary” problem is the themes, but it’s true he (or daddy) could pick better songs. Songs can have a message without being overwrought ballads. I know, I know. That’s his comfort zone. I don’t blame him for sticking with it. Seems to be working for him. He’s just not going to get me likin’ it as long as he does them.

I don’t doubt the stage dad theory at all, and it’s sad.

His Aunt’s comment… waaaay OTT. Archie heals nothing in me. He makes my eyes roll.

I didn’t chime in on this the other day, but when Randy asked him if he was having fun and he said it was the best time of his life (or some such), I didn’t believe him. He’s just so terrified of saying or doing anything wrong and it shows.

Well, see, choosing “Waiting on the world to change” proves to me that you can do message and still be contemporary. That’s why I think Archie isn’t choosing his songs at all, as it seems he has better taste than what he’s been singing on the show.

I agree, Michelle, but the themes are not contemporary. But yes, there are way better “message” songs out there to fit each theme, no matter who is choses the song (which we can only speculate). I’m sure Daddy was around in Hollywood, too.

@snuffles — I don’t see “Disney” in Archie, either, for the reasons you stated. And I’d hate for him to get picked up by Disney, since while I don’t like him on the show, he’s quite a sweet kid and it’d be almost heartbreaking if Disney tried to sell him out like they did with the Jonas Brothers (or anyone else they’ve marketed, for that matter). He doesn’t have their type of personality and I doubt he will ever adopt a character like that.

Barney got the kids T-shirts that said à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Uncle David Rocksà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

I had no idea that David was an uncle (although I realize now that that was probably just complete ignorance on my part). “Uncle David”…LOL. I’m glad everything went well for the Cooks, though.

Carmen sounds just a tad whiny in that article, but I too don’t see why she would lie about it.

pj – true, the themes have been pretty restrictive this year. I wonder why they started using them for semis? Last year’s song choices TMTH?

Hisaki – an adorable pic of David and his niece (one of Adam’s kids, iirc)

Last yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s choices TMTH?

*raises eyebrow* Perhaps! The show hasn’t done these contestants any favors with the early themes. I preferred non-them semi’s, for sure.

@Michelle: AWWW! Is it so wrong that I want him as an uncle now, just so I can get moments like those? LOL.

*raises eyebrow* Perhaps! The show hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t done these contestants any favors with the early themes. I preferred non-them semià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s, for sure.

A select few of the contestants were off perfectly fine even with the themes in the semis this year (both David’s and Brooke, for example), but it was a bit of a challenge for some of the other contestants, especially the teenagers. The semis are a time to experiment and to start pulling out signature songs to create a fanbase, but the choices became limited thanks to the themes that they added. Hopefully they’ll take them out next year, but I highly doubt that…

It has never been about money, fame or anything other than striving to use it as a way to touch people and help heal spiritual problems through the light he exudes when he performs and also just when he is around people.

WTF?!? American Idol is all about being a famewhore and getting a million dollar recording contract. I wonder if his family has him believing he has magical healing powers because has a pretty voice and an invisible light? I really don’t get it. If spiritual healing is what he’s all about, he should be doing prison tours instead of being on my TV.

I hope he comes out and sings a Judas song this week.

Does anyone know why David’s “Always Be My Baby” with the 700,000 PLUS views got erased and not Archies video with the 353,000 views?!?!?!!?

Well, Cheese, that’s obviously OTT bullshit.

Honestly, I don’t mind if a contestant sings an inspirational song. Just don’t club me with it week after week, okay? And if you must, please find good songs to club me with.

I thought I had eclectic taste in music, but the last two weeks are making me rethink that. I mean, I listen to everything from Thelonious Monk to Frontline Assembly, back to Wilco and Tori Amos and Christina. Throw in some White Stripes, David Bowie, and more recently, the Fratelli’s. The list goes on, but Mariah and ALW?

I’m not digging anything on Rhapsody from Andrew Lloyd Webber. Sigh. I’m guessing Kristy had the best song. My kitty Argie is named after it. LOL.

These songs should stay on the musical theatre stage.

Where can we see more on David Archuleta’s background that does not include singing…..maybe something that might show normalcy in his everyday life with peers, siblings, school life, extra-curricular activities, etc. that has not been scripted or “packaged” to/for the masses. It seems he is either very, very shy or has been brainwashed into being a little compliant, submissive “yes man.” I’m concerned about him. I hope he can make it, break from his family, and be able to stand on his own one day. His aunt sounds like a cultist. He is such a cute, sweet, talented, gifted young man. It’s frustating to watch.

Oooo youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be surprised. Ever been to the scary boards/IDF? most of them are dumb/delusional enough to believe thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s nothing fabricated about it.

I post on the “scary boards” and I know for a fact that this show is totally fabricated.

Nikki, I went to check and this is what I found:

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by FremantleMedia Group Limited

Hmm. Usually, I don’t wear a tinfoil hat, but maybe ArchuDaddy reported it.

That’s why I love Redlasso. 100% fair use…

From the NY Post Article on Clive:
*Though he is replacing a legend, sources said Weiss is a well-regarded executive who would likely thrive in the CEO role. Weiss spent the early part of his career being tutored by another music industry legend named Clive: the South African-born Clive Calder, the man responsible for Britney Spears, N’Sync and other stars of the bubble-gum and braces set. *

Does this paragraph bother anyone else but me??? Dear god let me keep Clive, who has brought us some incredibly talented artist throughout the years. If I have to hear anymore “bubble-gum and braces” music on the radio I may just scream. I hope this change does not indicate an even greater push into the tween/Miley/Jonas Bros. type of music for Sony/BMG.

Save us all if this is reality…..

It has never been about money, fame or anything other than striving to use it as a way to touch people and help heal spiritual problems through the light he exudes when he performs and also just when he is around people.

Right.

And I have some oceanfront property located in Kansas for sale, price is very reasonable. :doh_tb:

No one tries out for AI if they aren’t looking for some fame. One would think those sorts of comments from family members would hurt more than help, but lots of peeps buy into bull shit. Caro, wanna go into business together?

I do appreciate the Idols who have done a lot for charities before and after the show (I’m looking at you Ace), but they are still looking for fame. And so what? Just be real about it.

One would think those sorts of comments from family members would hurt more than help, but lots of peeps buy into bull shit.

How do we even know this is from his Aunt? On the internet, anybody could be Archie’s Aunt.

Frankly, if I had wanted to write a post as a fake Aunt and I wanted to discredit somebody, that’s exactly how I would write it. Every bit of evidence that she gives that Archie’s Dad is not a Stage Daddy screams the opposite.

Either “Auntie” is completely delusional or a fake. LOL. The fact that she would even post is proof of either one of those things. In the past, Idol has warned relatives against posting (I seem to remember Mama McPhee getting in trouble during the competition, although she returned to her posting ways once the tour started).

I can see Archie picking those songs. Some teenagers are pretty earnest. They are going to save the world. I’d have to think that Daddy would be a little bit more savvy than that, but perhaps he is delusional too.

How do we even know this is from his Aunt? On the internet, anybody could be Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Aunt.

Oh, absolutely. I was commenting on what was presented here. I’m way too disinterested in Archie to try to investigate any further.

Either way, peeps will buy into it.

Question on David’s youtube Always be My Baby. If FreeMantle had a copyright issue, then why on earth did they not have it on the other 183 copies posted on there? Why only the one with so many views? They have not taken the one of Billie Jean down with over a million views.

Either way, peeps will buy into it.

LOL. I’m not buying it. So, I shan’t use it as a basis for any of my posts.

It may serve as an inspiration for me, though. Perhaps all of the Idol’s relatives will come to Idol to publish equally delusional posts. I wonder how far they shall drift. BWAHAHA.

We’ve had fake spoilers. We’ve had fake press releases. We’ve had fake insiders. We’ve had fake psycho fans. Now, it’s time for MJs to have fake relatives!!!!!!

LOL. MJ isn’t going to tell me where the new site is going to be, is she?

Has anyone here seen the petition to ban Jeff Archuleta from AI??? LOL

LOL. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not buying it. So, I shanà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t use it as a basis for any of my posts.

It wasn’t the basis of my post either. Taken in context, my post was about the idea that people who try out for AI are looking for fame.

It wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t the basis of my post either.

I never said it was.

I was just responding to the comment that some people will take it as the truth. I was just saying that I wouldn’t be one of them unless I see some more evidence that is really his Aunt (something like David A saying on AI “Aunt Blabbermouth, please stop posting on such-and-such a blog or I won’t be sending you a Christmas Cake this year”).

Peace.

Surprise, surprise. Brooke is the new VFTW pick!

hey now, vftw is spot on.

Unless someone dishes out some meds Brooke will probably melt down (think Wizard of Oz!).

I like Brooke but she’s gotten to a point where she just can’t handle it. (looking into the future, she just might get a grip this coming week. Or not.)

Brooke needs to throw caution to the wind. Perfectionism isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.

Carly looked adorable in the Ford commercial (which was sorely lacking the hotness of Michael Johns. Cà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢mon. We all were thinking it).

I was thinking it. :smile1_tb:

Carmen may be telling the truth but it doesn’t mean it’s the same now. She was in season 2. I don’t think they give them enough help or tell them when it’s bad but don’t think it’s not the same for all of them or some would always be good and that doesn’t happen.

As for Carmen, I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t wait for the day a few of these contestants get together and write a tell-all book!

Both Carmen and Kellie have been very open about how the shows are scripted and they are told to say certain things. I mentioned that I thought Brooke comment about apologizing to the violinist was scripted.

The best book to be written would be by Debra Bryd AFTER the show is off the air. I believe Carmen is telling the truth. I am so angry when I see unfavorable comments made to Kimberly Locke on REWIND. TPTB wanted Ruben to win with Clay in the Finale. I am so happy she’s having a successful career.

Brooke for VFTW? I remember when some thought she would be TOP 4.

It may serve as an inspiration for me, though. Perhaps all of the Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s relatives will come to Idol to publish equally delusional posts. I wonder how far they shall drift. BWAHAHA.

Who’s to say that person isn’t David’s aunt? Idol relatives post on the boards all the time. And sometimes they say wacky and delusional things.

Who’s to say that person isn’t David’s aunt? Idol relatives post on the boards all the time. And sometimes they say wacky and delusional things.

I think Kirsten’s point was that we don’t know that it IS David’s aunt, so – in my opinion – why use it as yet another reason to get our panties in a bunch and beat up on the kid? Surely peeps haven’t run out of verifiable ammunition they can use against him? He may not lick his lips as much but I hear he still breathes funny. :rolleyes_tb:

I think Kirsten’s point was that we don’t know that it IS David’s aunt, so – in my opinion – why use it as yet another reason to get our panties in a bunch and beat up on the kid?

Better to beat up on David than bloggers beating up on each other over something that’s not very important anyway.

something thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not very important anyway

On that we are in 100% agreement. But I don’t think Kirsten or I were beating up on anyone.

Brooke is the new VFTW pick!

Aww. I was really hoping it was going to be Jason, since I can tolerate all of their bashing considering votes are votes.

Brooke’s probably the best pick, anyway. Most seem to have already deviated from her babbling mouth and the way that she gets all touchy when she’s given criticism. I know I have, at least.

But I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Kirsten or I were beating up on anyone.

Missing JJ, eh, aren’t we? LOL

Missing JJ, eh, arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t we? LOL

Are you volunteering to take her place, Purps? LOL

Actually, MJ, I should amend my post to exclude Kirsten. My motives are always pure, but God only knows what hers are. :tongue1_tb:

Are you volunteering to take her place, Purps? LOL

Ack! No!!! Unfortunately (or fortunately), I have not been blessed with a kick-able a$$. ;b

Purp :lol_ee:

I found that DC fansite a few weeks ago, and I have been loving it. They are funny. :lol_wp: I didn’t know it was run by DC’s friends though. Thanks for the info Sarah!