Idol Headlines for 3/22/08

From the Popwatch Blog. JPL loves “the Neil” too.

Other than Mariah, I think they finally picked the right mentors. I think Dolly night (which will most likely be country night?) and Neil night will be fantastic. Andew Lloyd Webber (musicals night?) will be .. uh … interesting.

And I might have to take my dog on a very long walk during Mariah Carey night. (and I don’t have a dog…)

1. Ha-ha! Dave White didn’t even include Ramiele on his review of Beatles night. I agree – did she even sing a Beatles song or was that a karaoke/cruise ship/wedding singer/pageanty version of some pop song?

2. Simon is a douche-bag.

I’ve decided the one and only reason I watch American Idol is so I can agree with Dave White. He’s my guy!

JPL really likes to dish. Kevin C. now lives with ACE????? I thought he was right on about AI becoming a variety show and not a Cinderella story anymore. That is so true. I think this season they got a variety of talent in different niches but nobody is that “diamond in the rough” that excels across the board. Everybody (except Chiceze – amazingly) already seems like they’ve shown you who they are and more of the same to come. Well, it worked for Daughtry.

I miss the Cinderella thing (as phony as it was) where at least you believed that the mail worker and the teacher had a shot a stardom.
Anyway,it is what it is.

Not sure who is source is and a little thin on the details, but…

Ex-’American Idol’-ist Josiah Leming nails major record deal

He’s gone from living in his car to having a record deal in the span of six months. Morristown teenager Josiah Leming — forever known as the kid living out of his car on “American Idol” season 7 — has signed with Warner Bros. records. He’s also gotten an agent and an entertainment lawyer.

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In other news, I have to agree that Dave White is awesome.

And I might have to take my dog on a very long walk during Mariah Carey night. (and I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have a dogà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦)

I think many a dog will need a hug that night (or at least a set of ear plugs…poor beasties…who knew that having better hearing was a curse?)

From this week’s billboard.biz:

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¢ Randy Jackson’s “Music Club, Vol. 1″ enters The Billboard 200 at No. 50 with 13,000. The collaborations set boasts a number of familiar faces, including his “American Idol” co-judge, Paula Abdul… While Jackson has had a hand in crafting many hit albums over the years, this is the first time he’s ever received credit as an artist on any Billboard album chart.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¢ Two of Hot AC/Adult Top 40′s biggest bands add to their impressive resumes, led by Daughtry, which becomes the first group since the chart’s 1996 launch to notch four top five hits from a debut album. Its latest, “Feels Like Tonight,” charges 6-5. The only other act to score four top fives from a debut set was Rob Thomas in 2005-06. Maroon 5 meanwhile earns its sixth consecutive top 10 on the chart, as “Won’t Go Home Without You” vaults 13-10. The band has scored three top 10s apiece from each of its albums.

Billboard Biz

He started talking about how he recently moved in with Ace Young and then mentioned something about picking up Aceà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s womanizing leftovers? Yikes! Now thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a movie script waiting to be written.

Classy. Eww.

Hey, who is JoesPLACE, and why would he/she have the inside info, I mean I just would like to know if there is more behind the scene here?

Ex-à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢-ist Josiah Leming nails major record deal

Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s gone from living in his car to having a record deal in the span of six months. Morristown teenager Josiah Leming à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  forever known as the kid living out of his car on à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  season 7 à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  has signed with Warner

Awwww….Kirsten, thanks for bringing that over. I really like Josiah’s songwriting. I am glad he will (hopefully because it’s the music business y’all) get to sing his own stuff.

Dave White had me literally laughing out loud, especially the part about Jason serving up some frog legs and escargot. :lol_tb: Great recap.

Great news for Josiah! Can’t wait to hear more from him.

Oh, and JPL. Peeps are going to stop telling you stuff. Thanks for the gossip, though. :laugh_tb:

Obviously Kevin was joking about Ace. I don’t believe the dude is a womanizer and if he were, why would his “leftovers” want to have anything to do with Kevin? :tongue2_tb:

DR: So what are your picks, your favorites?

Simon: Top three: David Archuleta. Jason Castro. Brooke or Ramiele [Malubay].

Ah, Simon, what about David Cook? Didn’t you just say a week ago that if the show were a talent contest and not a popularity contest he might have a chance of winning the whole thing????

Blake thinks David Archuleta is boring.

Not really headlines worthy, but I think it’s funny how this isn’t going over too well with the hoard of Archie fans at Rickey’s. heh.

Not really headlines worthy, but I think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s funny how this isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t going over too well with the hoard of Archie fans at Rickeyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s. heh.

LOL!

Blake “confirms” that David Cook stole from Doxology? I think the word yer looking for Rickey is “believes” yes? LOL.

Josiah Leming à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ a record deal! Good for him. Hereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s his chance to make good. I saw him on youtube playing keyboard and singing a song that he wrote. His keyboarding was very good, though I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like his vocals as much. Still, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m happy for him.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m surprised at the warm reception Dolly Parton is getting. I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know she was so well-liked. Weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve been a fan of hers since she fist started singing with Porter Wagoner.

Trust me, the shiz hit the fan on that last night at TP. :rolleyes_wp:

For the record, I agree that David A is boring, but disagree about Doxology. I don’t see the big deal, though. It’s just one dude’s opinion. No one seems upset that he called Pauler’s single “okay.” :laugh_tb:

Sad as it is for someone who is obviously very talented, he is very boring. I just wish he would get loose – come out with a Sanjaya hairdo or something performing some upbeat song and have some fun and be just a happy kid who loves singing. I feel for the kid – it seems that the time leading up to every performance is so stressful and agonizing for him and that there is so much pressure on him to be perfect. I don’t know if he brings that pressure on himself or if it is the result of pushy stage parents. He comes across so nervous in the pre-performance videos sometimes that he makes me nervous. For as long as he’s been performing, he doesn’t seem to have an ounce of self-confidence. Well, I take that back – he had tons of self confidence when he sang Imagine, but I’m sure he’s performed that song quite a bit. I’m hoping he let’s loose soon because he will then win this whole thing – I’m not so sure he will staying on the path he’s on. But he seems to have a huge fan base so I could be all wrong and maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about!!

Heheheh. I just had to post something at Rickey’s. It will only stir the pot and I’ll get flamed, but I really don’t give a shit. It’s my opinion (and was before Blake ever uttered a word on that damn radio show), and I’m sticking to it. Heh.

*screams for all the world to hear* Archuleta is BORING!!!

Can I just say that I love you peeps? I just do. I have the best comments section evah…

I agree that Archuleta is boring, but then again I kind of felt like Blake Lewis was boring, so it’s kind of like a matter/anti-matter reaction for me.

Tell me about it, Kat. Blake is boring AND talentless. One of these days his little head might explode with his huge ego. All his comments of the new season reeks desperation for me.

One thing to note about Blake–he actually DID arrange all of his performances on Idol himself. He never borrowed from anybody. That in itself is pretty impressive. He’s entitled to be a bit smug in that regard, imo.

I also love Dave White and look forward to his recaps every Saturday morning! It’s a great read with my morning coffee – and only causes one or two spit takes. (*wipes this mornings coffee from computer screen*)

I was never a Blake fan so his opinion of David A meant absolutely nothing. The fact that he finds David A boring is a good sign that David is even better than I thought. I guess I would have to weigh the source with the words.

The Mariah night HAS to be a Billboard or itunes top of the chart event. It cannot be of her song catalog as just HOW many times have we heard that you shouldn’t pick a ‘Mariah’ tune. That would just be silly and a total disaster in the making.

I disagree about Blake but not about David A. His song choices are a huge yawner but I don’t like Ramiele or Syesha’s choices either. The difference is that they’re not being told that they’re going to win AI. The really sad thing for me if David A does win the year after Jordin won, is that the show will be overwhelmed with teenagers trying out in droves. Now that would be boring. :dry_tb:

Jordin is way more exciting than David A in my opinion. Consider song choice for Top 11 week:

I Who Have Nothing vs. Long and Winding Road.

Wasn’t a Jordin fan during Season 6, but at least she took risks and had a few “wow moments.”

Ex-à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢-ist Josiah Leming nails major record deal

Warner Brothers is the lowest of the lowest majors…Madonna bolted Warner Bros., so they’re scrambling to sign whoever, whatever they can. It’s a rebuilding move, nothing more.

There’s a big discussion at rickeys about David A., and I agree with the above….the reason I can’t get to David A. is he’s boring….and that may be why he hasn’t secured a record deal or a TV show…whatever his family has been prepping him for all these years…his personality just doesn’t show well IMO.

I think that Blakes’ talent in the music industry will end up being as a producer in the recording studio as opposed to the one out front. He and Chris Richardson were a good duo … one a writer, the other an arranger to give it some oomph.

Warner Brothers is the lowest of the lowest majorsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Madonna bolted Warner Bros., so theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re scrambling to sign whoever, whatever they can. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a rebuilding move, nothing more.

Well, if it’s a “rebuilding” move, it’s a smart one. Josiah is mad talented. I believe he could be the first talented Idol reject who transcends his Idol experience.

Since I’ve always been a Ballad-loving kind of a girl, I have enjoyed David A.’s song choices… and Jason’s, too. It’s not really my goal to dislike anybody. I try to appreciate everyone’s talent for what it is – maybe because I’m a singer, too. I never liked rock music, and always preferred Top 40/Easy Listening. I enjoy an energetic song now and then, but my “all-time favorite” songs are probably all pretty melodies with pretty/meaningful lyrics.

I think David will have his turn at proving what he can do on the Idol stage. It was quite a way into the competition before people started thinking of Jordin as a contender.

I could see why Blake would think David A was boring and he does like Chikeze who’s one of my favorites. Laughing at the focus on David A when Blake disses David C as well for “biting” Toxology. The interview confirms that Blake is a loose cannon who needs PR training stat. Kat saying this a year ago would have been ripped to shreds for being a diva. But some props to Blake for honesty.

Sciencefan – its funny..I’m usually a dance, upbeat, JT/Timbaland type of girl and yet I too have enjoyed little David’s song choices. My opinion and though not shared with many here … like Sarah said.. I don’t give a shit..is that David is not boring. He makes me happy with his voice, with his smile, with his personality and I wish him nothing but success in the future.

and as far as Blake’s comment…he’s entitled to it..although boring to me was when HE sang imagine last year.

what exactly is randy’s role in this whole thing? from that la times interview, randy shows that he has absolutely no brain cells of his own. parrot anyone? and of the 4 of them, i betcha his ego outguns pauler, simon and ryan.

Blake probably could find a job in production, probably not. Because this industry is all about connections, goodwills, PR, etc. where he has proved no good over and over again.

Talking about boring, did Blake ever consider the reason that his sales is embarrassingly low is because people find his album boring?

One thing to note about Blakeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’he actually DID arrange all of his performances on Idol himself. He never borrowed from anybody. That in itself is pretty impressive. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s entitled to be a bit smug in that regard, imo.

Oh, don’t get me wrong — Blake is very, very talented, but I just found him monotonous. But one man’s junk is another’s treasure and all that.

As for whether he’s “entitled” to be smug, no, I don’t necessarily think his talent “entitles” him to speak negatively about the Idol contestants in public. He certainly has a right to, but it’s in a bit of poor taste to do it on a radio show while the competition is still ongoing. But then again Blake has about as much tact as McPhee.

Wasn’t there a news story a couple of days ago that said that teenagers were watching Idol less and less? So Nigel, a teenager won last year and that didn’t help your teenager ratings for this year. Makes me also think that, despite the loud and passionate fans, little D won’t be winning this year. I said it before, it would really be SWEET if David C, Jason, and Chickezie were the top 3 – can you imagine the mad talent dripping from the stage that night? I’ll be doing the Howard Dean woo that Brooke did the other night!

He is certianly entitled to his opinion, but Blake could find a more diplomatic way to answer these questions. There’s a skill to doing an interview and Blake doesn’t seem to have it.

As for whether he’s “entitled” to be smug, no, I don’t necessarily think his talent “entitles” him to speak negatively about the Idol contestants in public.

I said he was entitled to feel smug. Ok, I didn’t say that exactly, but that’s what I meant. He should be proud that he’s one of the few Idol contestants to truly arrange his own songs. I’d feel a bit smug, myself.

His interview is another matter. To be honest, I love when Idols shoot from the hip like this. Even McPhee. Whether one agrees or not, it makes for some interesting sound bites…

Idol dodged a bullet when Jordin won. She hasn’t had a misstep yet and Blake’s post idol career has been full of them. Who could forget the immortal “t_tties in your mouth.”

Blake probably could find a job in production, probably not. Because this industry is all about connections, goodwills, PR, etc. where he has proved no good over and over again.

From what I hear, people behind the scenes like Blake. He knows how to network. What an artist says in an interview is one thing. How they conduct their business behind the scenes is another.

Now, Taylor Hicks is the complete opposite. Always says the correct thing in public. Mightily pisses off the people he’s had to deal with in the business.

Trust me, the shiz hit the fan on that last night at TP.

For the record, I agree that David A is boring, but disagree about Doxology. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see the big deal, though. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just one dudeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s opinion. No one seems upset that he called Paulerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s single à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“okay.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Honestly, I’m more disturbed that he said Chikezie was his favorite. Snooze…now that’s boring.

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Thanks mj!

Not sure why you got zapped rher. I took it out of moderation.

Chikezie had one great performance, but has been pretty boring otherwise, especially in the semi’s.

I just can’t believe the fact that Blake said David A is boring has caused such a stink. Idols give their opinions on the show all the time. It’s not like he was even very snarky. I guess it’s a good thing he’s not writing for Entertainment Weekly!

ETA: Trust me, I’ve cringed at some of the things Blake has said, but this isn’t one of them.

One day I’d love to know what Taylor did to piss people in the biz off.

Idol is due for some controversy so thanks Blake.

I just canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe the fact that Blake said David A is boring has caused such a stink.

Because David is popular it’s inevitable that some members of his fanbase will protest a negative characterization. This is how these things play out. David’s fans (of whom I am one) should just chill. Blake is entitled to his opinion and his verdict on little David will in no way affect David’s fortunes in the music industry.

I agree with PJ and don’t think it’s a big deal. Lots of previous idols give their opinions on EW and the various idol shows. There were some that were down on Blake last year which may have annoyed me as a fan but wasn’t a big deal either.

None of us are going to like the same type of music and singers. I like some ballads but not the big voice (Whitney) type songs that David A, Ramiele, and Syesha seem to favor. I’d like to see all of them try a little younger song that would show their personalities even if it gets them out of their comfort zones.

Blake is entitled to his opinion and at least Chikezie makes it interesting. You never knowwhat Chikezie’s going to do and David’s strength is that he’s good at ballads.

I’m sorry, I do not want to hear a whole season of David Archeluta’s singing sappy ballads. I want someone interesting to win this season and David is not interesting.

By the way Kimberly Lock also said Chikezie is her favorite.

Blake certainly is entitled to his opinion and I appreciate he’s honest, but there are more tactful ways of stating an opinion. He could have simply said David isn’t his cup of tea or something like that. Given his embarassing sales I’m not sure it’s wise to turn off what’s left of his fanbase, and judging by IDF he and David share a lot of fans.

To be honest, I love when Idols shoot from the hip like this. Even McPhee. Whether one agrees or not, it makes for some interesting sound bitesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

I agree it’s entertaining, but I’m not one to confuse entertainment value with respect. No matter what Blake thinks of David A., it’s bad form to assail him publicly, because Blake was in the exact same position one year ago. Amanda, from all I have read so far, has managed to “shoot from the hip” and to speak honestly of her Idol experience without insulting anyone personally. Blake could take a lesson from her, because he comes off as quite the smug little troll for someone who hasn’t quite transcended what Miss Overmyer correctly recognized as mere star potential.

I agree it’s entertaining, but I’m not one to confuse entertainment value with respect.

I have to admit, it’s all entertainment to me.

Eh. I just can’t get all worked up about this stuff.

I have to say, from a bloggers point of view, it’s fun to watch.

And look. It’s Saturday, and this thread is already hitting the second page. Good stuff!

I agree ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s entertaining, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not one to confuse entertainment value with respect.

I guess I don’t equate a comment that someone’s performances are boring with a lack of respect. To me, that’s a leap. I guess you must have missed the all the EW articles, Idol Tonight episodes, and all the other instances when ex-contestants are asked to critique the current crop. “Boring” is actually pretty tame.

ETA:

And look. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Saturday, and this thread is already hitting the second page. Good stuff!

LOLS.

Blake wasn’t writing an article analyzing performances. It was a radio interview where they asked if he watched AI. He volunteered the rest of it. Plus all the ones writing for EW do not work for 19 and Blake and all the Idols on the show (currently) do. As I said though, go Blake.

Eh, he’s expected to comment on the current crop when he does these interviews. I’m not sure what his working with 19 has to do with it.

Like Metta pointed out, this isn’t going to hurt little Archie one bit. Achie’s fans are in a tizzy and will vote extra hard next week.

ETA: Idol thrives on controversy. 19 is probably thrilled peeps are talking about this.

I have to say, from a bloggers point of view, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fun to watch.

I used to blog, too. The Idol contestants’ comments can be “fun”, but it doesn’t make me think any more of them as people. That’s all. (And I’m fully aware that one doesn’t have to respect a performer to like their music.)

I guess you must have missed the all the EW articles, Idol Tonight episodes, and all the other instances when ex-contestants are asked to critique the current crop.

Not at all. I’m not saying Blake is the only one to dis the current crop, but his name happened to be the one to come up today. Plus, the “if Contestants X, Y, and Z all do the same thing as Contestant A, that makes Contestant A immune from criticism” argument has never really held any water for me.

Blake wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t writing an article analyzing performances. It was a radio interview where they asked if he watched AI. He volunteered the rest of it.

The fact that he offered his wisdom sua sponte makes it even less tactful for me.

But I’ll be frank. Blake to me has always come off as an immature fratboy and a bit of a douche. I’ve never found anything attractive about him, whether it’s his looks, his performing style, or his personality. And I guess as someone who’s spent her entire dating life trying to avoid the type of man who runs around screaming “titties in your mouth,” yeah, I don’t find him particularly amusing or entertaining. In fact, I find him and his entire persona quite repulsive. And yes, I understand that people do like him and love his music and think he’s wonderful; I don’t intend for this to be an “I don’t like him”/”well, I do, so nyah!” battle.

Sheesh. I think I’m beginning to get an idea of how the non-Taylor fans felt when they used to criticize him here.

Sheesh. I think Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m beginning to get an idea of how the non-Taylor fans felt when they used to criticize him here.

You are being challenged a bit. But look around–you are hardly outnumbered here. Unlike some of the poor Kat and Daughtry fans were back in the day.

You are being challenged a bit. But look aroundà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’you are hardly outnumbered here. Unlike some of the poor Kat and Daughtry fans were back in the day.

Oh, I understand that. And I’m really not complaining; I love a good debate! But speaking of, I wonder if it had been Kat offering her unsolicited and negative opinions of the current crop’s skills…

Sheesh. I think Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m beginning to get an idea of how the non-Taylor fans felt when they used to criticize him here.

LOL. That would be me. And trust me, there is NO comparison. No one here is suffering through posts about thigh biting.

Again, I don’t equate “that performance is boring” with a lack of respect. And yes, Blake has said a lot of things that have made me cringe, so I won’t argue with you there. But I don’t see how bringing up those things is any different than me bringing up that other contestants have also critiqued the current crop if we’re strictly commenting on Blake’s comment about Archie. Can’t have it both ways.

With that, I’m done. LOL.

But I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see how bringing up those things are any different than me bringing up that other contestants have also critiqued the current crop if weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re strictly commenting on Blakeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s comment about Archie. Canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have it both ways.

I don’t think I understand that question. I feel that it’s rude for any contestant to publicly critique the current Idols. It’s not mean, it doesn’t make them horrible people, and they absolutely have a right to say what they want, but I do feel that it’s rude and a bit tactless. I don’t see how that’s having it both ways; if anything I think it’s an entirely consistent position to feel that it’s rude no matter who is doing it. So I guess I did understand the question after all, LOL.

Madonna leaving Warners was the biggest mistake she could possibly make in the twilight of her career. 60-year-old woman parading in pointy breast costume? Not happening, honey.

The geniuses at Live Nation are about to see exactly where they can get with a girl who could barely sing in the first place.

Well, it wasn’t a question. But you kinda invalidated the argument that others have done the same thing by saying Blake was the one who came up today. That’s all.

But if you think it’s rude no matter who does it, then fine. I guess they should all be puppies and rainbows when asked about the current contestants.

I certainly wouldn’t care if Blake or anyone said my fave was a one trick pony. *shrugs*

The more I hear about Blake, the less I like him. First “titties in the mouth,” then trashing the Idol song, and now saying Little D is boring….Blake, you’re lucky you were in Season 6. Your weak-assed vocals wouldn’t even have made the Top 12 this year.

But if you think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s rude no matter who does it, then fine. I guess they should all be puppies and rainbows when asked about the current contestants.

It’s not a matter of “puppies and rainbows” to me, it’s a matter of being respectful. He doesn’t have to say “David Archuleta is the bestest performer ever to grace the Idol stage,” but he doesn’t have to be purposely insulting, either. I’m a relatively young person, but I guess I must have missed the memo that manners have now become passe. That’s just how I feel about it.

Bambambam — Madonna is NOT 60 y.o., she is 49 y.o. maybe she LOOKS 60 y.o. but she’s not.
She (and Prince) are taking alternative roads to get their music heard and to profit from it. She’s the first, if it’s successful she won’t be the only one.

But speaking of, I wonder if it had been Kat offering her unsolicited and negative opinions of the current cropà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s skillsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

Touche, Kat! LOL!

Which makes me realize that there’s no one on the show this season who I even remotely dislike with the same juicy vigor. I’m actually starting to feel nostalgic about her. Cracks about Taylor, Elliott, and Kellie, very public disrespect of ailing Meatloaf, infamous frolics in a pool and ice cream parlor trips when she shoulda been on tour….She was a giver, that one.

It’s good to see you back, Metta

Randy and Simon saying that the top 4 will be David A., Jason, Rami and Brooke “because they’re popular” likely means they’re the leading vote-getters every week. Simon even said that although Carly is a better singer, she isn’t popular, which was borne out this week with the B3 visit.

Which makes me realize that thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s no one on the show this season who I even remotely dislike with the same juicy vigor. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m actually starting to feel nostalgic about her. Cracks about Taylor, Elliott, and Kellie, very public disrespect of ailing Meatloaf, infamous frolics in a pool and ice cream parlor trips when she shoulda been on tourà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.She was a giver, that one.

The only time I ever got ticked off by something Kat said was the Meatloaf crack–because he’s such a legend and was obviously not well. Other than that–Eh.

Her overall lack of musical identity and seemingly vapid personality makes her uninteresting to me. If she came on TV (and I wasn’t running an Idol blog) I’d switch her right off.

When Chris Rich is asked about this season, he noted that he likes David A and someone else (can’t remember.) And Melinda says:

Does she feel obligated to watch à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  since folks will ask her about it? à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t feel obligated. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m kind of hooked on the show. I am going to agree with the judges. This season is the best talent theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve had yet. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m having the hardest time picking my favorites.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  She then listed off all five remaining guys before even referencing the ladies. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I love David Archuleta. I love Chikezie. I love David Cook. And Jason Castro. And donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t forget Michael Johns.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, but the way they voice it shows the manner. Blake demonstrated he has no class at all. It is as simple as that. And wooo, bad career move to upset your remaining 10 fans, half of whom are David A fans now.

Taylor Hicks was a struggling musician probably had a certain effect on him and made Taylor driven on what type of artist or muscian he is. That said when American IDol or the Record company wanted to mold him a certain way Taylor did not roll over and subernly(maybe being a jerk ) stood his ground with some compromise but not much which tick them both off. I could see why he did that do I agree with it be extremely smart no but I am not in his shoes. It is in the past I listen to that music and the 5 idols seem quite content.

I am a sports fan so I am quite used to other athletes giving thier opinions of others. If I would based on not watching actors or listening musicians music I like on things one wrong move or something said I would end up watching the “smurfs ” 24/7The other hand that human and cat were quite nasty to them?

I think the original point of the poster who linked to Rickey’s thread about Blake, was to discuss how fans react, some might say over-react, to the simplest statements. To be honest, that’s the interesting discussion, imo.

sorry–first part aout theory about wht it happened..and I also braught me back to the old coledge days..

Second part–Anaolgy –meaning it really does not bother me the least..if it happens in sports why not music..

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I like Katherine and Blake about the same, not much. I do think Katherine is a better singer (but not on AI the other night) but Blake might have better entertainment ablility but I would switch them both of on TV and have in the past. We have lots of one trick ponys on AI this year and David A seems to be one of them, Jason and Brooke also, but all seem to be popular(as predictable Daughtry was in season 5)Does predictable translate into boring? :unsure_tb:

Randy and Simon saying that the top 4 will be David A., Jason, Rami and Brooke à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“because theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re popularà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  likely means theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re the leading vote-getters every week. Simon even said that although Carly is a better singer, she isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t popular, which was borne out this week with the B3 visit.

Everytime the judges open their mouths on the subject, I think reflects the latest stats, for sure. That’s what makes their remarks interesting.

I find it pretty interesting that they include Ramiele in the list. All of our indicators don’t suggest her at all. If you go to the official boards, it’s pretty easy to see that Archie and Jason are running neck and neck with about twice as many posts as anyone else (40Kish each). Archie is huge at IDF, followed by Brooke. As for iTunes, Brooke, Archie and David Cook are kicking Jason’s ass last time I checked. Even Carly is doing okay.

Where is Ramiele in all this? I guess it just shows that all the indicators might not mean as much as we think.

Where is Ramiele in all this? I guess it just shows that all the indicators might not mean as much as we think.

Check out the Fil-american message boards? I think she has lots of fans from that community.

It’s awesome to see all these comments on a Saturday night! I admit though, while I’m enjoying the read, I cant seem to shake the thought of Kevine C living with Ace! lol -Is that real or a joke?

Check out the Fil-american message boards? I think she has lots of fans from that community.

I wonder how big that voting block is. I know a lot of peeps talk about the Jasmine Trias effect, but that was before my time.

Lu, I think Ace and his brother have a place. Maybe Kevin is staying with him while he’s in LA? Have no idea. Can you tell my plans were cancellled? LOL.

LOL PJ! I’m just picturing Kevin blurting out “Hey – I’m livin with Ace!” Hmmmm….

Lu, I remember when Ace was on tour doing all those radio interviews, they asked him about Kevin and Ace said he was super funny and talked worse than a sailor… LOL. Yes, I have a memory for such stuff. :blush_tb: I can only guess what Chicken Little said to JPL. Heh.

ETA: *suddenly wonders if Ace lacks manners for talking about Chicken Little*

ETA: *suddenly wonders if Ace lacks manners for talking about Chicken Little*

Or if JPL lacks manners talking out of school (Yeah-it still cracks me up, though).

If people still cared about these past Idols, they would have been the big topic of discussion today.

Eh, I am a David A fan, I find him far less boring than most on this blog, frankly both Brooke, and Jason are teetering in that direction for me, so anything Blake (I am a big fan)says won’t make me go and spam Rickey’s. Everyone is entitled to his opinion. I guess next week David A will have to don a yellow dress, ramble on about about blackbirds, while strumming a banjo tunelessly to get any respect. Lets go Archie, you can do it!

I guess next week David A will have to don a yellow dress, ramble on about about blackbirds, while strumming a banjo tunelessly to get any respect. Lets go Archie, you can do it!

LOL

Actually, I think Archie is going to be ballad boy from here on out. When he tried to step out of his box (“We Can Work it Out”) he had a bit of a melt-down. I don’t think Simon will be giving him a hard time for the rest of the competition.

Well, “Shop Around” was kinda peppy. We shall see. David seems fragile. Watching him is a little painful for me. I’m not sure how this is going to shake out.

Fun season!

Speaking of JPL. He just put a new song up on his Myspace:

http://www.myspace.com/jonpeterlewis

It’s a cover of Dylan’s “Make You Feel My Love”. It’s lovely.

ETA:

Well, “Shop Around” was kinda peppy.

True enough.

I hope lil Archie can handle the pressure.

MJ–agree with you about Josiah–a genius waiting to happen. Was really disappointed when he was cut.

Now question—why do you say Taylor pisses off everyone behind the scenes–in the business world??? (If I understood your post correctly).

Now questionà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ why do you say Taylor pisses off everyone behind the scenesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’in the business world??? (If I understood your post correctly).

I’ve heard from various sources that he’s difficult. Some say arrogant.

I too have heard he is difficult…but chalked it up to his artistry as opposed to one of arrogance. I have known many of the artistic types-my son’s a professional dancer. They are really weird and can be really difficult (but my son is also a sweetheart!) but can’t imagine Taylor being “arrogant”. But I don’t know him personally, after all!

I rewatched David’s “Shop Around” last night — there are a ton of lyrics in that song. I agree with Paula that it was a very brave choice of song. He did a really good job with it.

Another thing I noted when rewatching Top 24 week was how important first impressions are. Jason Castro and Ramiele nailed their performances that night, solidifying their fanbases and carrying them through their mediocre performances. Remember LaKisha last year? She never again rose to the level of her Top 24 performance, yet that first performance took her all the way to No. 4.

ETA: *suddenly wonders if Ace lacks manners for talking about Chicken Little*

If he made disparaging (as opposed to jokingly disparaging) comments about him in a public forum, then yes, I’d say he does.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve heard from various sources that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s difficult. Some say arrogant.

Taylor definitely has a tendency to come off as arrogant, I think. I’ve seen it in a couple of his interviews. I don’t know what’s in his heart — perhaps it really is just confidence, or maybe resentment that people were trying to force him into a pop mold or change his style — but yeah, I could definitely see him rubbing people the wrong way. Then again, if you’re giving an artist advice and he’s refusing to take it, it’s pretty arrogant to believe that your advice should always trump the artist’s musical style. Hard to tell, but I don’t find the whispers that Taylor is difficult at all shocking.

Caffiend, Jason HAD to nail his first performance, as he had maybe five seconds on air previous to that. That’s a huge disadvantage. I think LaKisha had more airtime prior and a backstory about working in a bank and being a single mom.

I do agree that it helped him alot, but Hallelujah solidified his base. He needs another standout performance, though.

I guess next week David A will have to don a yellow dress, ramble on about about blackbirds, while strumming a banjo tunelessly to get any respect. Lets go Archie, you can do it

abbysee.. :clap_tb:

Frankly I don’t care if he sticks to ballads as long as he does them well. I don’t think his voice is limited to that however, shop around was pretty darn good. I do feel sorry for him if his father is difficult. I hope this is what David wants to do this for himself. If he is being pushed, or prodded that would sadden me. I like David because I am a fan of voices, not personality, not style, nor genre. David has a voice that pleases me. And for the record I am not a teenybopper. I also started voting last week to make up for all the people who might be complacent, or who are listening to the bloggers and others who speak of his inevitiability. I don’t buy it, so I am gonna dial like there’s no tomorrow..

Taylor difficult, I could see that. He sorta has that vibe, if Blake deserves to be a bit unique because of his talent, ditto that for Taylor. He is mad talented.

Jason Castro and Ramiele nailed their performances that night, solidifying their fanbases and carrying them through their mediocre performances. Remember LaKisha last year? She never again rose to the level of her Top 24 performance, yet that first performance took her all the way to No. 4.

I’d say Hallelujah rose to the level of Daydream. Jason’s other performances, though, were disappointingly mediocre. He’s done enough to solidify a fanbase, but I agree with pj in that he needs more standout performances to win.

Hopefully, this week, when he sings a song from his birth year on his birthday, he can complete this already perfect line-up with a brilliant performance.

CHEERS! :thumbup_tb:

abbysee, I really like your take on things. I’ll say that I am not voting for David because I see a child who doesn’t understand what he’s singing, even if he pretends to get it. But I respect that you like him and I’m glad you’re embracing your inner Pauler and voting like no tomorrow. Great reference!

Abbysee–who is “mad” talented….Taylor or Blake???

I just feel like Taylor has been so royally screwed every which way but up. I hate that there is one more black mark he may or may not deserve. I hate powerful people who abuse and misuse that power.

Blake certainly is entitled to his opinion and I appreciate heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s honest, but there are more tactful ways of stating an opinion. He could have simply said David isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t his cup of tea or something like that.

Why? He would have been reamed up and down by David’s fans just for that statement too, so why not just be honest to begin with?

I guess you must have missed the all the EW articles, Idol Tonight episodes, and all the other instances when ex-contestants are asked to critique the current crop. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Boringà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  is actually pretty tame.

Yep. Chris Sligh made a comment about one of them that he actually took back a few weeks later, in his next column. But it is what it is. They all have opinions.

Maybe part of it is the level of “investment” of the fans of the contestant being criticized.

I kind of wish former idols would adopt the old – “if you cant say something nice dont say anything at all” for their own sake. It’s just more polite and I like polite – lol. I appreciate the classy Melinda approach. But, hey – different strokes, right?

But to be quite honest, it matters not one bit to me what any of them think about another season’s “talent”. I really dont care – not a bit.

I thought Shop Around was amazing.
Then Imagine followed, and I refused to listen to it because Blake had done it last year and I thought he gave the definitive arrangement of that song on Idol.
Out of respect for the originator, Blake’s arrangement of Imagine was true to the original. It was the only song he didn’t re arrange.
Less than a year later, DavidA does ‘Imagine’ completely altering the arrangement, probably wasn’t even his decision just did what he was advised to do.
So maybe Blake’s a little ticked DavidA didn’t respect his judgement on ‘Imagine’. Which sort of goes against the whole spirit of ‘Imagine,’ but what the heck.

Happy Easter!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Momo -your right–I go by the x-files moto now on..

JSG, someone said on TP that Blake thought little David blew his version out of the park on Imagine. So I don’t think it’s that. I didn’t hear that interview myself. Blake has been all over the place doing interviews lately.

Personally, I don’t want Imagine to be changed up. That’s just me.

Anyway, I just went to VFTW and had to chuckle at Jason’s thread title. OMG. So funny.

ETA: And what does it say about all of us if we’re so anxious to grab on to the negative and not the positive?

J.S.G. – FYI – Little David has been doing that arrangement of Imagine since he was twelve or thirteen (videos on you tube). I think that was an arrangement used by Eva Cassady???

Totally off topic but had to share –

My girls and I saw College Road Trip tonight and loved it! I used MJs itunes link to download Reven Symones’s Double Dutch Bus – lol. Either my kids are keeping me young or I’m regressing – either way, I’m havin fun!!!

Lu, are you speaking French? I know nothing of which you speak! LOL.

heehee… Double Dutch Bus was in the Raven Symone (another Disney phenom) movie College Road trip that I saw tonight. Raven Symone started years ago when she played Bill Cosby’s daughter’s stepdaughter in The Cosby Show.

Thanks, Lu. I wanna make Jason’s funny French gesture now, but I don’t think MJ has a smiley for that or the half moose. LOL.

ETA: And what does it say about all of us if weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re so anxious to grab on to the negative and not the positive?

Eh? Lots of people have been happy about the Josiah news today.

What other positive news am I missing? That Blake feels empowered enough by is flopping CD to state one of the current Idols is a thief while the other is boring? Yay Blake? Crap all over others! You go man! Way to be tactless!!!!! Woo!

You’ve got to accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
And latch on to the affirmative
Don’t mess with Mister In-Between

LOL I don’t think we need to feel bad about ourselves because we are debating controversial things. Good news just gets “Congrats” and “Congrats from me too” posts. Now, that’s boring. It’s the things on the borderline that generate discussion. Where reasonable people can agree to disagree and still be friendly. Yay us!

Eh? Lots of people have been happy about the Josiah news today.

Yippee. :rolleyes_tb:

I wish him luck but I still dont get it… at all.

Even “things on the borderline that generate discussion” gets Woo’s and Yay Us’s from Kristen, heh.

YAY FOR KRISTEN! :clap_tb:

YAY FOR THE HAPPINESS THAT THIS TV SHOW (and the discussion related to it) BRINGS! :clap_tb:

Well, that was a comment about society in general and the way things go down. Not this blog in particular.. LOL. Sorry if some took it the wrong way.

And I stand by it.

Well, that was kinda a comment about society in general and the way things go down. LOL.

378 versions of the Chicken Soup for the Soul books would tend to prove you wrong. People love positive stories. Hollywood is forever changing downer stories into uplifting ones (e.g. Pretty Woman…the original story did not end that well).

Sure, the press is full of negative stories, but as I said, those are the ones that generate discussion. The fact that Mr. Smith arrived home safely from his commute today is not as interesting as the fact that Mrs. Doe was crushed by a giant Weinermobile. Mr. Smith and billions like him arrive home safely every day. It becomes white noise. The interest is in the things that don’t go the same every day.

Sorry if you took it the wrong way.

Don’t be, I was just confused, but don’t worry, I was not harmed. I just thought we were discussing the Idol Headlines and did not realize that we had veered off onto World Headlines. My bad.

The fact that Mr. Smith arrived home safely from his commute today is not as interesting as the fact that Mrs. Doe was crushed by a giant Weinermobile.

Yikes! Hope Elliott wasn’t driving!

Yikes! Hope Elliott wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t driving!

Tough to say. The reports said the witnesses were blinded by a dazzling set of white teeth so that they cannot identify the driver.

Nah, haven’t checked out the Chicken Soup books. I do see TMZ and Perez Hilton in my google alerts for the Idols almost daily, though.

Tough to say. The reports said the witnesses were blinded by a dazzling set of white teeth.

LOL – so his shiney bright smile saved his butt – no witnesses could see what happened – good investment Elliott!

Chris58 (if you’re still around) — Taylor holds his friends close and keeps those perceived as an enemy at a distance. But, he’s always had a reputation for being difficult with some and displaying arrogance pre-idol. Road scars — he believes in himself. Anyone who didn’t became an enemy. That’s my take on it.

Speaking of arrogance, I say we gather donatioins for Blake and award him 12 Weeks of Charm School. Being a smart ass, or a thoughtless fool, has a short time span. He needs to know when to fold.

And actually, I think Blake is a mess. My description of his beatboxing (which he does because he can’t carry a tune) 6 goldfish in a 1 gallon aquarium trying to get out, gills a-smacking and lots of gulp, gulp, gulp.

LOL. Elliott got those teeth for free right?

And my fave TMZ story is the one of Jason abandoning the orphans in Honduras!

Oops… yep they were free. But he did say it was painful – so he did invest something, right?

Lu, the fact that I remember they were free underscores what I said about Ace’s radio interviews above. I remember Ace said he put a ciggy on a cupcake for Elliott’s birthday. LOL. *hangs head in shame*

Wow PJ! I never knew about that! lol

“Boring” makes me happy.

Chris58, I am sorry I just read your question. I was refering to Taylor being mad talented. I think Blake is talented too, I just have a higher adoration for Taylor because I think while Blake is a nice snickers bar, Taylor is like Godiva chocolate to me. I like them both, but when I want something special Godiva is what I look for. I think that is probable to Taylor’s detriment, as more folk probably would just grab the snickers.

Also I am old enough to crush on Taylor, Blake, doesn’t quite do it that way for me.

Lu, I also ascribe to the Mindydo way. If you can’t compliment a past idol, say nothing, it will be read as ego, sourgrapes, or just plain nastiness. It’s unbecoming. I am not a rainbow and puppies person all the time, as can be acknowledged by some of my posts here, but when it comes to that I think it’s bush league to bash those who come either before you, or after you in that respect. Blake goes out of his way to be controversial, but you must sell cds, (yep, I purchased his) lots of cds to be able to get away with it.

Yeah, Lu. I listened to all of those radio interviews back in the day. You know those morning DJs! They try to drum up trouble. I remember they asked Ace if Kellie was a fake. His response? She has a high IQ.

LOL. Elliott got those teeth for free right?

And my fave TMZ story is the one of Jason abandoning the orphans in Honduras!

lol, I love how Jason eventually comes up in this page of comments. That’s cool. I heart Jason, and will continue to (if he does well this week)- that’s right, no unconditional loving from a cynic like me.

Another not-news-worthy article:

Constantine won’t go to a Chikezie concert, thinks Syesha is annoying, and Ramiele is no star. Oh, plus he thinks Kellie Pickler is the worst singer finalist in Idol history. For his (impolite) take on the Season 7 contestants, click here!

So much for Idols keeping their mouths shut, eh? Not gonna happen.

didn’t Constantie date Kellie P for short while? sounds like sour grapes to me.

With regards to Taylor…he appears to me from meeting him, talking with him (short conversations), seeing him in different situtations, and watching him perform over the last couple of years… to be guarded with those he is not sure of their motives, introverted (bordering on very shy) off stage which seems to read as arrogant. It seems when people cannot connect the on-stage personality with the off-stage personality (and in Taylor case, it is a complete opposite) there is a disconnect and people say he is not real, or game playing or even arrogant. I agree with other posters that Taylor has had to believe in himself for so many years while be turned away and told to change, that I think he has learned to rely on himself first, trusted friends second and some fellow musicians that supported him along the way…everyone else needs to prove themselves before he will let them in or listen to their advice. Is that arrogant, perhaps but in the end when things work or not, you only have yourself. Where will the record company be, or AI be…business dictates that they watch out for their interests and I think Taylor has learned that he needs to look out for his interests and stay true to himself…is that arrogant? or smart?

Blake…never been a huge fan of his music/noise, and what is so funny is I think that he is so much more arrogant and full of himself than others who are label that. Maybe people can tolerant it better because he is equally so on-stage as he is off-stage. A redeeming quality I find in Blake is that he has stayed consistant in his hair-brain behavior before, during and after.

http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1468256772

Amanda at LAX. She said she didn’t even vote for herself, probably because she didn’t have TIME~!!!

Constantine: Well, I hate to write this but I agree with him, except for David A. I think David A is not only boring, but he needs to mature a lot more and develop a personality.

Constatine’s comments do nothing more than reaffirm that he is a complete jerk. And, yes, I believe he did date Kellie. I can certainly see why he’s a critic. He’s sold so many of his own cds…NOT…… BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

ETA: okay. I should’ve read Constantine’s comments before I posted. His comments about Kellie? Still jerky and probably related to the fact that they dated. His take on AI7 contestants? I pretty much agree with. His comments were really pretty objective. And he says he thinks Blake will disappear sooon…. a little ironic given the conversation…

Oh, Constantine. ::smacks head:: Way to extend your long-ago-expired fifteen minutes, dude.

Happy Easter, everyone.

Wow, never thought Constatineà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s comments would be so spot on. Especially the part about Blake disappearing soon. I think Blake knows it, too.

There is no way Kellie comes close to being “the worst singer finalist in Idol history.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ” Constantine does nothing to change his image as a self-important ass.

Happy Easter, everybody! :bye_tb:

I just feel like Taylor has been so royally screwed every which way but up. I hate that there is one more black mark he may or may not deserve. I hate powerful people who abuse and misuse that power.

Boy do I agree with this.

He’s never going to be as successful in the mainstream like Chris Daughtry is, but you can’t tell me with the proper backing “Taylor Hicks”, the album, wouldn’t have been more successful.

I feel like AI has been apologizing for his victory since the moment he was crowned champ.

Which only makes me like Taylor Hicks even more. He’s the anti-Idol. Anti-establishment.

As much as it pains me to say it, I didn’t think Constantine’s comments were that bad either (well, the Kellie thing is a little off). Oh, and this:

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d still like to be Jon Bon Jovi or Freddie Mercury. I have something to say.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

:lol_tb:

How ironic that the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“the worst singer finalist in Idol history” has sold like 800,000 CD’s, how many has he sold again? 30,000? :laugh_tb:

Constantine often appears on Idol Tonight or AI Extra or one of those Idol shows. He is very blunt, but I agree with much of what he says. His mouth may get him into trouble.

I have to say, I agree with most of Constantine’s comments too.

And no, I wasn’t offended by them. I appreciate his candor.

I didn’t watch the season Constantine was in and haven’t been impressed by what I’ve seen of him. It doesn’t matter to me at all what he has to say but noticed that he’s much kinder when on Idol Tonight or whatever it was I saw him on.

And no, I wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t offended by them. I appreciate his candor.

Constantine’s “candor” likely stems solely from his desire to extend his own fame. IMO that’s nothing to admire.

Those who believe that an Idol is being rude aren’t necessarily thin-skinned, either. Some of us just appreciate a little tact.

gah. Constantine.

First, get the guy a bar of Ivory and a loofah. After he scrubs off at least 7 layers of skin he should use the Ivory to wash out his mouth. Just smarmy all the way around.

And, that “look” and “pout” he uses scares children.

ok, the good side of Constantine, well, he dated Debbie Gibson :lol_wp: (and has the nerve to trash Kellie?)

Anyway, I agree with most he said but, because he said it I’ll pretend I didn’t read it.

No. likey. him.

Hey claireb7tx, you’re whole post? Bless you, darlin’.

Constantine’s “candor” likely stems solely from his desire to extend his own fame.

Isn’t that the point of doing an interview for any celebrity?

He had some nice things to say about some of this year’s crop. Actually, most of them. Why bother to answer a question if you aren’t going to be honest? It’s the kind of thing that totally drives me up the wall with politicians.

I can’t stand reading celebrity interviews filled with PR coached answers. It’s just boring, and pointless to read, imo.

Why bother to answer a question if you arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t going to be honest?

Because of a little something called tact? If my co-worker asks me what I think of a third co-worker, and my honest thoughts are that the third co-worker is an obese, smelly, physically disgusting person, should I answer that question honestly? Why? It’s just cruel; I’d like to think I’d take the high road and say that I thought my third co-worker was a very nice person. Gee, I guess that makes me boring. Darn.

I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t stand reading celebrity interviews filled with PR coached answers. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just boring, and pointless to read, imo.

That makes it sound like it’s impossible to give an interesting, “non PR-coached” interview without making stupid insults. Which, in my opinion, is ludicrous. There’s a way to be honest and refreshing and to not sound coached without rattling off a list of insults. Amanda Overmyer has done it splendidly.

I don’t think there’s anything to be admired about someone who stakes their claim to fame primarily by taking dumps on others. Perhaps there’s some base entertainment value in it, but quite frankly, I value one’s ability to choose the high road over whatever small and fleeting pleasure I might find in reading one Idol’s petty little slams against his or her fellow contestants. Yes, when you take someone like Katharine, her verbal diarrhea could be described as “entertaining,” in that “God, he/she is a moron” way. But I’d hardly call their foot-in-mouth disease a positive value.

Being a adult who rises above a journalist’s bait and refuses to use insults and slams to shine up their own star is a hell of a lot more appealing to me than a Constantine or a Katharine or a Blake who has yet to reach this level of maturity. Amanda appears to be this type of person; some of the others do not. And yet, I was more entertained by Amanda’s interviews than I’ve ever been by one of Katharine’s bitchfests. Perhaps it’s because those who can only generate interest by insulting others do so because they themselves aren’t very interesting at all.

You and I are going to have to agree to disagree here Kat. I just don’t take what these Idols have to say all that seriously. To be honest, I read Constantine’s article, and didn’t think it was insulting at all. BTW, Amanda mentioned that a few of her castmates had let fame go to their heads. Is that rude, or does it take actually namechecking someone to cross the line?

I live in a Northeast city, plus I work in IT, mostly with men. Bluntness is commonplace. I don’t think it’s a big deal. Maybe others do.

I thought Constantine’s comments were on the money. Since Constantine is considered a major jerk without much of a career it doesn’t hurt his image. Blake was stupid to give his honest opinions since he and David A share alot of fans.

I find Blake more repellent for the vulgar comments he makes about women than his disses of Davids C and A.

As a fan I focus on the music not the persona but PR is important for the Idol folk and I’m always amazed how some are great at it while others suck.

I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t take what these Idols have to say all that seriously.

Well, you run a blog devoted to what the say and do, so I’d have to disagree with you there Besides, I think framing it in terms of taking what the Idols say seriously is a bit of a mischaracterization. We’re debating whether or not they’re being rude, but what Blake Lewis has to say about David Archuleta isn’t going to keep me awake at night. All I’m saying is that he was being rude, and I was quite surprised to find that so many people think it’s okay to be rude and to lack tact as long as it provides entertainment value.

I live in a Northeast city, plus I work in IT, mostly with men. Bluntness is commonplace. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a big deal. Maybe others do.

I work in corporate law, mostly with men. Bluntness is commonplace. Rudeness for the sake of being rude is not, because I work with adults.

I find Blake more repellent for the vulgar comments he makes about women than his disses of Davids C and A.

Heh, well, yeah, Blake seems to just be a repulsive little man all around.

I’d give Constantine a pass on most of what he said and the way he said it — but, the jab at Kellie P. was uncalled for, unnecessary and probably born of jealousy (true colors shining through).

All Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m saying is that he was being rude, and I was quite surprised to find that so many people think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s okay to be rude and to lack tact as long as it provides entertainment value.

Your opinion that he’s rude is one thing but the rest is a conclusion that I disagree with and think it went a little too far.

I think Jordin calling David A “boring” wouldn’t have gotten so much attention. It’s because Blake is adding to his “jerky” image. I don’t consider what he said to be rude either although I’ve heard him say plenty of other extremely rude things.

Well, you run a blog devoted to what the say and do, so I’d have to disagree with you there

You are missing my point. What an Idol, or any celebrity, has to say isn’t going to upset me. I get a little charged up over how the producers run the show, but I’m even beginning to feel a little passe about that.

All Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m saying is that he was being rude, and I was quite surprised to find that so many people think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s okay to be rude and to lack tact as long as it provides entertainment value.

Kat, the first part of your sentence is your opinion. We’ll have to agree to disagree on that. The second part of your sentence…it verges on putting words in peoples mouths and questioning their motives. I think I’m the only person here who has copped to enjoying the entertainment value of celebrities speaking out of school. You are a better person than I, Kat. What can I say?

Rudeness for the sake of being rude is not, because I work with adults.

Yeah, so do I. Bluntness and rudeness are two different things. I think you and I disagree on what the difference is between the two. I didn’t think Blake or Constantine were attempting to be rude for rude’s sake–just honest. My opinion. You obviously disagree.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d give Constantine a pass on most of what he said and the way he said it à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  but, the jab at Kellie P. was uncalled for, unnecessary and probably born of jealousy (true colors shining through).

Oh, that was kind of rude. LOL. The rest of it, not so much, imo.

who me? the height of diplomacy?

Truthfully, Constantine is and will always be an ass. He can’t help himself.

Hey mj, he was an asshat to you and I still haven’t gotten over that!

Blake, he’s just full of himself. He may grow out of it but, then again, the time may come, with both Blake and Constantine, that no one will care to ask them what they think. They need to think on that!

jpfan, Jordin wouldn’t have said David A. is boring. She’d dance around that.

Hey mj, he was an asshat to you and I still havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t gotten over that!

YES! He was very rude to me. He is pretty much an asshat, but I have to say that I found his remarks about this year’s crop pretty perceptive.

then again, the time may come, with both Blake and Constantine, that no one will care to ask them what they think. They need to think on that!

If people are still asking also rans from season 1 what they think about the current crop of AI contestants, I don’t think they’ll stop asking Blake or Constantine any time soon.

I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Blake or Constantine were attempting to be rude for rudeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s sakeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’just honest. My opinion. You obviously disagree.

I guess that’s the thing. I don’t believe that honesty is this amazing and wonderful thing that ALWAYS trumps everything. Sometimes honesty can be cruel, sometimes it can be used solely for personal gain, and sometimes it can cause more harm than good. Now, am I saying that any of these things apply to Blake’s stupid comments? Of course not. Do I subscribe to the value that when one is “just being honest,” their comments deserve some kind of automatic deference? No, I do not. Sometimes a white lie is the polite, kind, and classy thing to put forth. It may not be entertaining, but it’s a hell of a lot classier.

I think Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m the only person here who has copped to enjoying the entertainment value of celebrities speaking out of school. You are a better person than I, Kat. What can I say?

We are definitely missing each other’s points now. I’m going to continue to defend my opinions — what I love about this blog is that we’re all allowed to do that — but I don’t see the need to delve into passive-aggressiveness. The debate has been fun and thought-provoking and while I freely admit I am surprised at the difference of opinion, I don’t think any less of anyone for it.

The debate has been fun and thought-provoking and while I freely admit I am surprised at the difference of opinion, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think any less of anyone for it.

I apologize if I misinterpreted your remark, but it seemed a bit passive-aggressive judgey mcjudgement pants to me. I got a little exasperated. Particularly when you attributed the remark to people who didn’t say it. My bad.

Sometimes a white lie is the polite, kind, and classy thing to put forth. It may not be entertaining, but it’s a hell of a lot classier.

In personal relationships, maybe, but only in particular situations. In the Entertainment World? In my opinion, not so much. I’d rather be entertained. I want to hear what the Idols really think of their peers, it’s interesting to me. And in the bigger picture…it’s still just entertainment. It doesn’t mean much.

When peeps put themselves out for public consumption, they have to be strong enough to take some negative feedback. Yes, from peers. As well as the public.

I wonder if everyone here is worried about the poor feelings of the contestants when they post about them?

Much ado about nothing. LOL.

When peeps put themselves out for public consumption, they have to be strong enough to take some negative feedback. Yes, from peers. As well as the public.

Well said.

And, taking it a step further: IMO, it’s not a fan’s “responsibility” to try to “shield” them from that criticism. In fact, that’s actually pretty creepy.

I wonder if everyone here is worried about the poor feelings of the contestants when they post about them?

Or their relatives. Blake’s aunts lurk here for sure. And I know they find some of the name calling here needlessly rude and cruel.

Not that I’d expect anyone to change a thing…so don’t!

Love fest.

There’s a huge difference between a bunch of fans who dish dirt v. one of our peers.

And, when the negative feedback is coming from someone who has been in the same exact spot sporting no more talent than the person they’re critisizing, the basis for the remark becomes very suspect -from constructive criticism to potential egobashing.

Truthfully, I don’t think Constantine has more talent or more success (taking into consideration that he has 4 years on them) than most of the current Idol’s still battling it out. At the very least, he’s forgotten from whence he came. But I doubt that bothers him.

His criticism doesn’t have anything to back it up, still graveling for a camera and it’s easy to perceive that he’s just hanging on, saying and doing anything he can to get his face in front of a camera.

Kellie P – her sing off may have been awful but guess what, she’s paid everyone back many times over. (actually I don’t remember the sing off but I do remember her exit interview and, like Amanda, an interview to remember).

I was misunderstood I think — I don’t think Constantine’s criticism about the currents idols was off base at all and the majority of his interview wasn’t rude. (although I still don’t think he has the creed to be advising anyone of anything).

I do think pulling Kellie P. out of his hat came out of a dark place. He should have kept his mouth shut on that. Sadly, that’s where he could have shown a smidgen of class.

And I still don’t like him. :tongue2_tb:

I watched Constantine on Idol Tonight and his remarks seemed quite sane. Even the criticism of Kellie was tempered – like great personality, not the greatest voice. Who’d argue with that? He didn’t sound mean and was actually interesting.

I’m sure the contestants on Idol can handle the Constantine and Blake critiques. Some of them are pros who’ve dealt with years of rejection already. And the ones they aren’t should get used to criticism.

Okay now —

Who is he, who can’t sell a CD and shows up at every Idol crapfest to kiss the camera while trying to hang on to a shred of fame, to criticize anyone in that industry? Not even William Hung who outsold him like nobodies business !

I don’t get it. Except that it is entertainment. Sorta.