Idol Headlines for 2/28/08

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“If that Lennon/McCartney songbook were open to us, I would love that,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  gushed Lythgoe. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“At the same time, I would really like it when we have got our best singers. I would hate to ruin Beatles material. I really would.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

That might happen anyway, Nigel.

This is for jersey, to reply to a post from yesterday (and I hope this is OK, MJ.) re: NGAB producers selecting the song that the band performed.

I watched every episode of NGAB and read the news articles posted here and never heard that.

I’m pretty sure I heard this in one of the podcast interviews that’s out there. I’m thinking it was someone from Sixwire or one of the Clark Brothers that said it. They said that sometimes they were baffled by the choice the producers made.

Digivegas has podcasts of several NGAB band interviews here:

http://www.digivegas.blogspot.com/

And, there was a podcast of an interview with Austin Clark here, but I think MJ posted it earlier:

http://www.roanoke.com/entertainment/insideout/music/wb/143359

I can’t listen to them now, I’m at work, but if I find the song choice reference tonight I’ll post it. A thousand apologies to MJ if these have been posted already. But it’s relevant to yesterday’s discussion of song choice.

Heh — maybe David A should have waited a couple of weeks before dusting off his handy dandy version of Imagine. I am very, very worried for a “Beatles- the early years” week. Their early stuff, granted with a few exceptions, is not really “singer” material. It’s more performance stuff.

p.s. Whoever gets Oh Darling is the Chosen One.

Heh à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  maybe David A should have waited a couple of weeks before dusting off his handy dandy version of Imagine.

“Imagine” is post-Beatles, though if David A wants to sing it again, I’m sure that Nigel will find a way to make it fit the theme and the judges will be thrilled (THRILLED!) to hear it again.

The Beatles do have some songs with pretty melodies. For some reason, I think David A. will go with “Penny Lane”. Maybe because I remember Jimmy Osmond singing it on Fame (I’ll just go hide my head in shame now). Or maybe he’ll sing “Let it Be”. Oh, there are lots of great choices and there will be lots of trainwrecks. I can’t wait. Just think of the group sing!!!!

Thanks for the Clay news. What exactly does he mean by half-original? Like it’s a cover of an obscure song?

Exciting. The TALENT we’ve witnessed this week is so INCREDIBLE that it gets Beatles songs. Thanks Nigel. We had no idea how TALENTED they were. I’m especially looking forward to _____(insert forgettable girl name here) doing a song. Oh wait, I do remember Amanda.

I know it’s easy to assume that the whole show is designed to favor David A but IMO he just stands out.It’s not like the others are so great they need a conspiracy to keep them down.

I’m a tiny bit sad that S5 didn’t get their shot at these songs. That would have been a truly memorable show.

P.S. I think after last night they should drop the “most talented” crap.

primeminister Feb 28th, 2008 at 8:49 am

Thanks for the Clay news. What exactly does he mean by half-original? Like ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a cover of an obscure song?

In the interview Clay talked about a demo song he heard 3 years ago and how much he liked it. Since then his original sophomore CD concept was derailed with the covers CD and someone else recorded that song, but that artist’s CD only sold about 15,000 copies, so he decided that since he loved it so much he wanted to record it his way. So I guess its his interpretation of a really obscure song.

Yep, after this week they should stop with the best evah, I still think it was season 2 or 5, and tbey could have had a field day with the Beatles catalog. David A doesn’t have to repeat Imagine to get attention, he’s a cute kid and he does have a great voice. I also have listened to alot of his pre idol stuff and if the improvements he made since Star Search are any indication of how good he could be in 5 years then there may just be a male idol who is really relevant in todays world. A real pop star. And yes the show is geared toward a singer like David, he’s good a great big voice, he’s photogenic, he seems sweet, and is charismatic, if I was idol I’d be pimping him too. Hell who else you got, tatooed, damaged, Carly, the interchangeable blonds, and the incredible fading Michael Johns? Right now David is the only reason I look forward to next week, and maybe Jason Castro, but that pretty much sums it up.

Thanks, flicker, I’ll listen later when I get the chance!

Good review of Randy’s new album (from Fox TV). Here’s an excerpt:

“But Jackson, the kindly judge from “American Idol,” knows voices. On “Music Club,” heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s gathered up all the best ones heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s heard. The result is a 12-track album that sounds like the best radio station that doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t exist. Clear Channel, are you listening?

Jackson does use a couple of “AI” refugees, but maybe not the ones youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d expect. Katharine McPhee and Elliott Yamin duet on “Real Love,” a catchy, smooth pop hit with a gospel feel that is so disarmingly infectious it shouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have any trouble finding a place on radio. Maybe”

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,333449,00.html

the only Beatles songs I think Amanda would have a prayer of a chance with are “Oh Darling!” and “Revolution” – the fast version. But those are from the later years, not the early years. Hey – at least Taylor managed to slip in a Beatles song and he didn’t ruin it one bit.

I do like Brook maybe because she is older and has a certain vibe to her . The teen remind me of a future sci-fi movie on the channel—-

“Invasion of the teens”

Thier cute ,charmining and some can atually sing good. The media such such aculades as ” what a mature voice just 17 or 16 from such a young age.” Beware underneath that “cute ,charming exterier” is a emmotion sucker that will drain energy off out of you. Ghost towns in Arizona cover-up an early Ai teen competition ..

Rated N(nausiating) for people above a certain age.

Maybe just a little tired of “just 17″ thing just maybe.

Poporange, I laughed out loud at your movie description. Thanks for that.

There are many of us who are tired of the “just 17″ thing.

Yes I stink at typing should not of been sleeping durring that class..any who

This is the ratings…

NY Times

If this is a repeat just delete.

iTunes current rankings (guys):

1. David A.
2. David H.
3. Jason C.
4. David C.
5. Michael
6. Danny
7. Chikezie
8. Luke
9. Robbie
10. Jason Y.

My guess is that Jason Y’s a lock to leave. Robbie and Luke can fight over the second spot, although I hope it’s Robbie. (…Luke has real hair! and is hot. so there.)

That review for Randy’s cd was fantastic. I know he is an excellent producer, one of my favorite cds was the one he did with Sam Moore a couple of years ago. I loaned it to my mother and never got it back. It was awesome. Good for Randy.

I feel sorry for David A, he’s being judged because of his age. Should people only be good if they are legal?

Oh great…….another fuggin’ theme week (even if it’s the Beatles)that totally ignores the singer’s individuality and makes it nothing more than a kareoke contest…great…………..just give little David A. his teara and and smaltzy theme song and let’s forget this season….kill me now……

http://www.tmz.com/2008/02/28/idol-nurse-busted-for-dui/

An article about Amanda getting arrested for DUI in 2006.

Fresh from Idol Audition, Klosky Returns to GL

According to Klosky, he did not get the opportunity to advance to the next round of American Idol because of his work on Guiding Light. Having been on television, Klosky was deemed to have had an unfair advantage when it came to the voting process: with about 3 million viewers and fans, Klosky could have potentially dominated the fan-based voting simply because of his previous television exposure.

Soap Central

Oh, so it’s not fair to have previously been featured on a television show unless your name is David A? Okay, maybe the dude botched his audition and he’s just making excuses. But it is kind of interesting.

Here is his Myspace which has him singing.

Ugh, why the Beatles with this crappy bunch? I can’t think of a single Beatles song that I would want any of these tools, posers, precocious children and Barbie dolls to sing. (I think Josiah could have done a good job with “I’m So Tired” *sniff*)

Predictions: Someone will sing Eleanor Rigby with a big cheesy grin. Randy will complain about the lack of glory notes. “That wasn’t a good song for me for you because it didn’t allow you to scream”, and Simon will say that he never heard half of the songs before. :rolleyes_tb:

“A.I.” finalist Amanda Overmyer pleaded guilty to DUI back in October 2006 near her hometown of Mulberry, In.

Didn’t I call it? Somewhere online in one of these boards I made the comment I hoped Amanda wasn’t a drunk….because my cousin is a nurse and she’s a drunk….tending to all those patients.

Posted at tmz.com

The answere is no but the judges are making it an issue..Years before season 6 considered not a good thing to be 17 or below even if you sang good.

from the EW article regarding Brooke White: Maybe in her spare time, the self-proclaimed ”beauty-school dropout” can turn her attention to the busted coifs of David Cook, Robbie Carrico, and Jason Yeager, among others.

No kidding, I was thinking the same thing.

[re: Beatles Songbook] Simon will say that he never heard half of the songs before.

That he will. What a musical moron. He must have been raised in a box. That would certainly explain his current hairdo (stick head in box and snip the bits that stick out)

I just told a friend about the Guiding Light thing and she made a good point…

” thought their only rule was that you couldn’t currently have a recording deal?? In fact they’re always defending themselves by saying that if Britney were dropped and she wanted to do American Idol they’d welcome her as a contestant. And you mean to tell me she wouldn’t have an ‘unfair advantage.’ Hmm, that is really weird…You’re making me reach for the tinfoil hat now ” ~chipperwojo

I’m not sure there are enough tinfoil hats to get through this season!

I have choir practice to night and I’m glad. I have to ask my director if I’ve suddenly gone tone deaf. I swear – every single girl that performed last night was either flat or shart except for Carly and Ramiel. Amanda was just flat out bad. I know lots of people loved Brook but they played a snippet of it on the radio theis morning and – just like last night – she sounded flat. Maybe myy ears are going bad…

Could someone explain Dial Idol to me? I don’t understand why it shows Amanda with the highest score and on the men it shows Jason Y with the second highest score. ????

Lu – I thought Brook sounded off at the chorus as well. Not just your ears

Nostradamos – You sound miserable in your statement above. I’m curious as to why you would watch something that only offers kareoke singers and a few cute teens? I love the show since season one and its fun to pick a favorite. David A, David H, Michael, Carly and Amanda make it fun for me to watch. I don’t care if my fav David A wins..I know the whole top 10 will probably get deals anyway.

So I purchased a couple of boys’ itune downloads.

Best vocal — hands down — David Cook

This surprised me because he’s not my favorite, but his voice is fine. Michael Johns — better on download than in person.

I predict:

Next week, David Archuletta’s breathy thing will start annoy the nation

Ramiel’s lip pursing between phrases will begin to annoy me. If you add a blink and a tongue, you have Chip Days.

Carly Smithson will knock our socks off (yes, it’s been very carefully set up, but I don’t care anymore — she better be flippin good)

David Archuletta will be good — not great.

Anyone else think this last week was when they told the top 20 where TPTB think they should be in the rankings and they better stay in their boxes. (Yes, I believe Nigel says things like “little Alaina, stay sweet and innocent and I “think” you should end up in the 10 spot.” “David C., we know your voice is better, but you’re not going any higher than 6th.”)

hapi, I believe Dialidol just counts the votes of those who download their software to vote for their favorites. It just means those people voted for Jason and Amanda knowing they would be in danger after a horrible performance. I’m sure that the teen text voting plays a huge part so I’m not sure those are the ones America has in the top 2.

primeminister – I would happy if that itunes ranking was correct and the top 6 went into the top 12!

Here’s some gossip I found at Defamer about Jason Yeager. I’m not going to post it out front, because it’s still heresay, but it’s interesting none the less:

Hollywood Gossip

The gossip is in the comments section:

When we were seniors in Highschool he got a 12 year old pregnant. That is who he had his son Nathan by. What a great idol.

She wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t 12 she was 14. I knew both of them. Still, thats a legal adult taking advantage of a minor child. Its called Statutory rape. He should be in jail.

ETA: Maybe it’s not heresay:

Jasonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a great guy.

Indeed he got a teenager pregnant but that was then. People should know that the girl who is his sonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s mom is in good terms with Jason. I know this because I am a relative of the Yeager family.

And then, this:

I am a journalist with a worldwide entertainment press syndicate out of Miami Beach, and weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re offering quick cash to anyone who will provide us with accurate information about Jason Yeagerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s love child. Please email me your contact information ASAP. SouthBeachPressSyndicate@yahoo.com

LOL

Must have been the senior dating the freshman…..

I just found out the following..

In 2003, at the age of 12, Archuleta sang on several episodes of the television show Star Search.[8][9][10][11][12][13][14] On one episode, he sang against then 13-year-old Alexandrà ©a Lushington, who is a “top 20″ semi-finalist on American Idol alongside Archuleta

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Archuleta

If this is old news, mj, please delete.

I heard about this last week at VFTW. I think, for Jason’s sake, he had better hope he gets voted off this week or it could get ugly.
ETA: I also understand that the legal age in the state it occured in is 14 so technically, it wasn’t statutory rape – not that that makes it any better, imho.

Oh wow, too bad his ass is gone this week, I love idol sex scandals. Eh, sex scandals of any kind are great….Truthfully though to look at Jason “up with people” Yeager, it’s sorta shocking that he’s actually had sex.

Lu, your ears are fine, she was a bit off. Most of the girls had pitch problems but Ramiele and Carly. I think the girls peaked to soon. Like at the auditions.

While Brooke is thinking of doing something to other people hair, she forgot her own. Sorta like a dentist with nasty teeth. I hate her hair.

I won’t blame David for being 17 just because Randy mentions it ad infinitum. That’s Randy’s schtick, not David’s. And, he is just 17! LOL!

Hereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s some gossip I found at Defamer about Jason Yeager. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not going to post it out front, because ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still heresay, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s interesting none the less

I’m sorry, but I have to disagree. I’m not interested in the age of his son’s mother at the time of his son’s birth. What little we have seen of Jason has not included any coverage of his son’s mother. This would seem to indicate that she is not part of Jason’s attempt to gain fame and I feel uncomfortable dragging somebody into the spotlight like this. One need only look at Jason’s son to realize that Jason had a child when he was fairly young. Mistakes happen and he appears to have taken responsibility. Good for him. Kids in highschool date and more. It’s not like he’s some 40 year old guy dating a teenager.

There is a young child and another person who didn’t sign up for this kind of exposure involved with this story, so that’s all I’m going to say on the matter. I know, I’m just being a prig, but there you go.

Let’s discuss “Helter Skelter”. I think that both Robbie and Amanda will want to sing it. I think that Amanda will win that fight. I think she can take any of the guys (plus, once she pulls Robbie’s wig off, he’ll run squealing from the room with his hands over his head).

That story about Jason Y will have to hurt. There’s also some gossip about David H and the blonde with the horses that might bite them if they advance. Didn’t Idol do their impeccable background check this year. I guess the incredible TALENT that these contestants have allowed them to overlook a few things.

Re: the entire 10 being signed. Aside from a handful, I can’t believe anyone would pay $ to hear them sing.

Kirsten, If my picks are right, neither Robbie nor Amanda will have the opportunity to mess with the Beatles.

ealbino,

Yes, I’m becoming more miserable each day….to take a great premis as AI ‘was’ and to twist and turn the singers to see who is the most pliable and moldable into whatever pop crap singer TPTB want to foist onto the music buying public has hardened me.

Every so often we see an Elliot, Taylor, Chris D. and now Amanda and to see TPTB try to sabatoge them into singing themed drivel sickens me.

Simon, for all his honesty, is as musically ignorant as anyone I’ve ever met. Seriously, he has ONE idea of what an AI is and it obviously SUCKS, IMHO…. Pop drivel…..i.e. Leona, Jordin, etc….

Pauler is a cheerleader on crack….who cares what she thinks… really?

Randy is a musical wannabe, one horse, self-repeating tape machine…”Dawg”, “pitchy”, “not the right song for you”, “what?” Stop me if you’ve heard this.

Somewhere the concept of finding and ALLOWING an artist to express who they are and what their CD might sound like got lost in the whoreing of the show out as a kareoke, popularity contest.

As a musician and music lover, I hope that at some point they can seperate the kids from the ‘real artists’ and make two shows….one for tweeners entering puberty and one for real singers.

But who am I kidding? Most of the “buying public” is as musically ignorant as Simon…..

So short of re-runs, I’ll tune in to try to catch a small glimpse of someone worthy of being called a “singer”……..maybe I’m still pissed that 24 got delayed until next year and winter will now feel 6 months longer……

Kirsten, If my picks are right, neither Robbie nor Amanda will have the opportunity to mess with the Beatles.

Probably true. It would have been fun to see which one got it and which one had to settle for singing “Maxwell Silver Hammer” (maybe Syesha will take that one just to annoy Simon)

There is a young child and another person who didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sign up for this kind of exposure involved with this story, so thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m going to say on the matter. I know, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m just being a prig, but there you go.

Jason himself “signed up” his child, making his life as a courageous single dad part of his backstory. If Jason wanted to protect his kid, he could have left him out of his story.

There has been curiosity about the whereabouts of the mother of Jason’s child. These posts may answer the question. And, if the National Enquirer gets the tips they are obviously looking for, expect a story in their pages.

The story is coming out, one way or another.

Nos, I hear you loud and clear. I think you should send that email to TPTB because two shows sits well with me like you said…a teen Pop one and one to find the Elliotts and Kelly Clarksons. Maybe because I have so many teens in my family I don’t mind watching teens like Jordin and David A but I can say…if I may.. I feel you dawg…

Kirsten – I”m thinking Amanda and Robbie aren’t getting to pick a song next week.

My boot list includes those two plus Alex and Jason Y.

MJ, given all the press and pimping David A. is getting, I really think one of the choices for your first bonus question “Who will sing first in the group sing” should be David A. will begin the song with a solo.

Just in case anyone’s interested:

After winning 4 times in Star Search (singing:
A House is Not A Home
Climb Every Mountain
Ain’t No Sunshine
Get Here)

David Archuletta (singing Wind Beneath My Wings) lost to Kevin Francis.

Anyone want to be we see Kevin Francis next year…

Assuming Amanda somehow makes it to Beatles night, I think she should do “Why Don’t We Do It In the Road” which would be immediately followed by Danny Noriega and his take on “Everybody’s Got Something to Hide Except for Me and my Monkey.” Archuleta will come in with “Yellow Submarine” and be praised for his maturity. Michael Johns and Carly will both pick the same song – a risky move – and attempt to do differing versions of Revolution #9 (number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9) and receive creative praise from the judges, except Simon, who will claim to have never heard it before.

I want David to sing Long and Winding Road. or I saw her standing there..

.and for Danny to sing…Happiness is a warm gun :rolleyes_tb:

I know nobody will sing “I’m a loser” :tongue1_tb:

“I think she can take any of the guys (plus, once she pulls Robbieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s wig off, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll run squealing from the room with his hands over his head).”

:lol_tb:

misc blab:
David A won on “Junior” Star Search…not much diff. but a little. I remember seeing Alexandria little girl singing natl A.at a basketball game I believe, on news, she was great then, way pitchy most of the time now. Even tho Celine did All By Myself cover, since it was 70′s week, they should have given Eric Carmen credit w/at least a mention.

All the girls including Carly had some pitch problems in parts of their songs at the very least…Carly in her high range, Brooke in some low but they were still the best with Ramiele next. As much as I like Alexandria she has bad pitch problems. Really pro singers sound good even in the soft areas, others should really work on those areas and not just the glory notes as thats where being off really shows. I like Brooke a lot and like Jason Castro a lot. and think David Cook is a way better singer than Aussie guy. David H. good but not as good as D.Cook. blah blah blah

Wow, no posts for 2 hours? I don’t have anything to say, just thought I’d break the silence. I have changed my picks in the poll about 7 times already today. Too many vulnerable people.

I know CarieB…. I’ve been waiting impatiently for more chat!

Hapi, I love that you blah blah yourself! :thumbup_tb: I do it all the time as well.

I can’t make up my mind on my picks either. I left them as I chose this morning, but I can think of 100 reasons to change them. And dial idol is NOT helpful AT ALL. Hey look, ANYONE can go home this week! Not so predictive this year. I have to say on the girls side I am not so surprised. No one gave me much reason to pick up my phone last night…..

Wow, they finally get the rights to The Beatles catalog & it’s with this bunch of yahoos.
I think the Beatles group medley should open with a recreation of the butcher cover & segue into some of them dressed as blue meanies. The possibilities are endless. This is going to be a trainwreck fo sho.

Ahhhhh. I can’t decide between Luke and Robbie. And Kristy and Kady. Or neither…

I have to admit that I don’t really care about the female contestants; I just want my points darn it!

I’ve been changing my female picks all day, too. So many options and scenerios!

Sigh.

Couldn’t this have happened with maybe SEason 5? Really?

I’m not in the mood to see too many blondes and people too young to understand the Beatles music, SING the Beatles music.

I’m SUCH a diehard Beatles fan that I’m having a hard time even liking the idea. I’m not against people covering the Beatles….I’m against the majority of the AI finalist covering the Beatles.

God, Kristy Lee Cook(if she makes it to the top 12) singing the Beatles….Shoot me now.

I’m going to have to mute sooo many performances.

The only plus out of this is, that they’ll probably only pick the “hits” and may leave some more obscure Beatles songs alone, hopefully. Thankfully there are only 12 contestants, so only 12 songs can be tarnished! HOORAY!

I’m not changing my selections. I’m not making the same mistake that I made last week. For the boys, last week I originally had Colton and Garrett…however I changed it to Luke and Chikisie at the last minute.

At least I had the girls right. However, those two were obvious.

Arg, I will not change my picks, I will not change my picks, Amanda will not go home this week, maybe I better vote Lisa off, oh god, decisions, decisions…..

I’m not changing anymore. Let’s home I move up out of my current tie with a bunch of peeps for 65th place – LOL.

LOL, I can’t decide on my picks either. I finally settled on Jason Y and Robbie and Amanda and Kady. I just can’t bring myself to choose Luke yet. I’m hoping for one more week. :wub_tb:

I just listened to a couple of digivegas podcasts; Cliff Wagner is the person who talks about the song selection process on NGAB. It’s on their podcast at about 12:30.

He said it went like this:

The band selected 3 songs, without practicing them, just based on what they thought would work for them.
The producers would then select one song from the submitted list, without hearing the band play any of the songs.
Then the band would start rehearsing the selected song.

Not saying it’s like that on Idol, but this at least gives insight into one of Nigel’s productions.

http://www.digivegas.com

I fully expect one of the fodder to get “Helter Skelter,” and to sing it while TPTB play footage of the Manson Family on the screen of pimpage.

Crap, I changed Alaina to Amanda, and didn’t want to vote for Alex (not Lisa, lol), so I screwed up totally this week, only Jason didn’t disappoint. ^%&

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m a tiny bit sad that S5 didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get their shot at these songs. That would have been a truly memorable show.

They did get the ELVIS PRESLEY Tribute and for the most part did a nice job.

It has been mentioned that the Top 12 will be doing the Beatles early catalog, right? Would 1968 be the cut off for the songs?