Idol Headlines for 2/09/09

That article says that Julianne will be partnering with her boyfriend. Seems like an unfair advantage but oh well, it might add entertainment value. Lots of real couples this year.

Jennifer Hudson was beautiful last night at the Grammys and that song was heartrending. As always, her vocals were shatteringly good. She handled herself with total dignity and her boyfriend seems so nice. Jennifer doesn’t have that same megawatt smile she used to have, you can see the sadness. This tragedy has changed her. Nobody should have to go through such a terrible thing.

Carrie was awesome with that song and I take it back, she is not too thin. That picture yesterday made her look thin but she looks fine. Perfect you could say. She has really overcome her reserve/shyness to become quite the exciting performer now.

Sorry to hear about Chris Brown and Rhianna. Violence seems to happen a lot in the rap world. The producers covered up the absences well. I didn’t notice any gaps. The grammys have gotten a lot more classy and glamourous the past 2-3 years. They had gotten so raunchy that I had stopped watching them for several years. I think I wasn’t the only one. Ratings were way down and they got it back on track. It was also dominated for several years by hiphop and rap, and lots of gangstas and bling. Not everyone’s cup of tea.

Al Green is a class act. I really enjoyed the Miley/Taylor duet too. It’s always fun to see Paul McCartney. Cold Play vocals even sounded decent for a change. That’s a great song, love it.

Violence seems to happen a lot in the rap world.

Chris Brown’s a rapper? Not that it matters. Assault is inexcusable.

So what if à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ picks semi-pros?

For all this buzz, it’s amazing how little we’ve seen of Joanna Pacitti since her audition. It’s alright, producers. I’ll still remember her….

Chris Brownà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a rapper? Not that it matters. Assault is inexcusable.

Plus, domestic violence cuts across economic, color, and social lines. Unfortunately.

Chris Brownà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a rapper?

Yeah, the Chris Brown is a rapper idea seems to be going around. I guess because of the arrest? But for the record for all those not familiar, Chris Brown is an R&B/Pop singer who is marketed mostly to the teen set, and in fact has a very boy-next-door image. If Disney had a R&B singer, he’d be Chris Brown. That’s what makes the story so shocking.

I missed the Grammys last night but I did see Carrie and Jen thanks to mj. I think they both did very well.

^Yep and woman can ´t afford to forgive a man who hit them, this become a circle and almost always happen again, not a big fan of Rihana fut if he hit her I hope she walks away and that Chris gets some help…

We shouldn’t pass judgment on Chris Brown and the reason for the bust-up yet. Could be she got pushy or loud with him and said some unkind things….we don’t know….alcohol could be a player in this…we just don’t know. But it seems that these two are over.

It was announced that Jennifer is going on tour with Robin Thicke. She cancelled a guest star appearance with Brian McKnight in November. I hope she comes to Chicago, which I’m sure she will. I will be there!

We shouldn’t pass judgment on Chris Brown and the reason for the bust-up yet. Could be she got pushy or loud with him and said some unkind things….we don’t know….

So, if she got pushy or loud, she deserved a smack? Or, if he was drunk, we should forgive him?

Not in my world. Sorry.

From Perez:

In a 2007 interview with Giant magazine, Chris Brown revealed that his mother had been physically abused by his stepfather.

“He used to hit my mom,” the singer, who was arrested Sunday night for allegedly assaulting girlfriend Rihanna, told the magazine. “He made me terrified all the time, terrified like I had to pee on myself. I remember one night he made her nose bleed. I was crying and thinking, ‘I’m just gonna go crazy on him one day . . . ‘ I hate him to this day.”

In the same interview, he said he had studied martial arts, which he used to defend himself once in a fight with several classmates.

Brown said after his mother broke up the fight, he urged her not to go to the police. “Don’t go to no cops pressing no charges,” he reported begging her, “like we don’t do that in the hood.”

Unfortunately, growing up amid domestic violence, is one of the strongest precursors to behaving that way yourself. They are both so young. I hope he gets help and I hope she walks away.

Are Simon Cowell and Paula Abdul dating?

Ew! Just ew! Makes that kiss they showed on the AI8 premiere all the more gross. Yuck. TMI.

There’s no reason valid enough IMO to hit a woman.

So, if she got pushy or loud, she deserved a smack? Or, if he was drunk, we should forgive him?

I agree, there is no excuse for violence… lots of deaths and horrible acts, JHud family by example, could be prevent if women were more willing to speak to the autorities about their abusers (sp?)…

Having said that I hope they both get help…

NO EXCUSES for that crap. But if he really has that history in his family, it emphasizes the need for him to get some help.

So, if she got pushy or loud, she deserved a smack? Or, if he was drunk, we should forgive him?

Heck. No.

Plus, domestic violence cuts across economic, color, and social lines.

And a vicious cycle. Sad…unbelievable…disappointing.

Carrie Underwood On Jennifer Hudsonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Performance: à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹I Think It Was Very Healingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢

I think it was very healing…very moving. I’m kind of addicted to that performance. I’ve watched it an innumerable amount of times.

Last night was just a bittersweet moment. There’s such an aura of sadness about her.

So, if she got pushy or loud, she deserved a smack? Or, if he was drunk, we should forgive him?

Not in my world. Sorry.

I agree. I hope it isn’t as bad as it looks. I thought Chris Brown was a good kid. Rhianna with a broken nose (according to a tv report)– not good.

There are NO EXCUSES for a man to hit a woman.
TMZ is now reporting Rihanna was assaulted with a deadly weapon.
I knew Chris was in deep do do when I saw his attorney is Mark Geragos
(Scott Peterson.)

Good luck, sucka!

Domestic Violence thier is no excuse and with many sad endings.It also is a terrible cycle .I do not know if Jennifers sister got a restraining order or not but sometimes that is not enough.IMO put those guys/girls away longer.(rant over)

“.I agree. I hope it isn as bad as it looks. I thought Chris Brown was a good kid. Rhianna with a broken nose (according to a tv report)not good.”

I hope she leaves him.

This whole story is just sickening. If he hit her, he gets what he deserves, period. No freaking excuse to hit someone. If he battered her enough to break her nose this time, says to me that this was not the first time this happened. For this reason I think they both need help. Damn, they are really just kids. It’s sad no matter what.

If justice prevails, she won’t have to worry about leaving him…

Given there were allegedly visible injuries, the crime of making criminal threats is punishable by up to nine years in prison. Domestic abuse is four years.
(www.tmz.com)

I wonder how Jordin feels about the whole affair. I remember hearing that she was really good friends with Chris.

It’s just sad! IMO, the whole thing is based on self-image. 1) abuse 2) allowing abuse. This by no means makes it right or ok.

I wonder how Jordin feels too, poor girl. May the truth come out and justice be served.

I remember hearing that she was really good friends with Chris.

I think there was an article in June/July in wich Jordin said she had a little crush on him and he said that he didnt feel nothing…

TMZ is now reporting Rihanna was assaulted with a deadly weapon.

For real? wow… where are they getting their info…

Mark Geragos

Double wow…those who know the law in US, if this was Brown first offense, will he still get 4 to 9 years????

So, if she got pushy or loud, she deserved a smack? Or, if he was drunk, we should forgive him?

Not in my world. Sorry.

Nor in mine. If she was being pushy and loud he should have exited the car and walked away, like a normal human being.

I do hope he gets help. He’s a 19 year old kid who is clearly more disturbed than his recording industry image makers realized when they portrayed him to the world as the boy next door. I’m hoping he’s not unsalvageable (as a person, not performer).

I also hope Rihanna never speaks to him again.

According to TMZ, the “deadly weapon” issue might simply involve them charging him with the worst crime they can at first until they are able to involve the DA and the charges are formalized. If he has martial arts training they might be counting his fists as a deadly weapons.

The whole thing with Chris Brown is really sad. He obviously needs some serious help!

Now, on a less serious note… did any of you think Robert Plant and Alison Kraus looked like Beauty and the Beast? Doesn’t he make enough money to buy a brush or pay for a haircut?

There is NO excuse for what Chris Brown did. NONE. But, having said that, up until this point, I’ve only heard good things about the boy. His image WAS squeeky clean. I hope the boy gets some help for his issues.

And, Rihanna, girlfriend, you just gotta stay away from Chris for your own good.

not a fan of anyone, but it’s funny how people are quick to judge someone. whatever happened to “innocent until proven guilty”?

not a fan of anyone, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s funny how people are quick to judge someone. whatever happened to à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“innocent until proven guiltyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ?

I guess she must have put herself in the hospital….

Jordin Sparks was interviewed earlier today on KISS FM 104.7, a Phoenix station. She talked about Paul McCartney, Samuel Jackson, Adele and a bunch of other celebrities she met and saw at the Grammyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s. She said that she became a member of the Recording Academy so she got to vote for the Grammyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s this year. Interestingly, they talked about her joint nomination with Chris Brown for a Grammy, but neither she nor the DJà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s ever brought up the news about Chrisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ arrest. You would think that none of them has heard about it from the way they were carrying on. She is working on her next album. And she is very excited about the prospect of meeting up with Archie at the upcoming American Idol Experience in Disney World. She mentioned the fact that he would be there, twice. She clearly loves him. Haha.

Listen to it HERE.

Nor in mine. If she was being pushy and loud he should have exited the car and walked away, like a normal human being.

Again we don’t know what happened. There’s all sorts of rumors on the internet about him wanting to break up with “her” and she wouldn’t have it. So we should wait to see what happens and why it happened.

“The whole thing with Chris Brown is really sad. He obviously needs some serious help!”

edit: don’t tell other posters what to do. I banned you once…

So, if she got pushy or loud, she deserved a smack? Or, if he was drunk, we should forgive him?

Not in my world. Sorry.

WORD. That is all.

Archie has a new blog lol. He ran into ‘cook and his gang’ at LAX. lol

“Aloha! I’m here in sunny Hawaii, and it’s so nice here. I sang at the Pro Bowl yesterday, and that was way cool. Enrique Iglesias and Ciara sang during the halftime, and that was fun to watch because we got to watch from the field. I didn’t get a chance to talk to Ciara, but Enrique was a cool guy. He’s tall though! I didn’t realize how tall he was. He’s 6 ft. 2 in. haha. But anyway, the day before the Pro Bowl performance I sang at Ohana Day where people can watch the players practice. I sang A Little Too Not Over You, and it went well. Today we’re going to try and look around the island and be tourists haha.”

Krater 96 Ohana day Meet and Greet vid (scroll down a bit)

Snarkies has some screen caps. He has a LOT of leis on. lol

Oh you know whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s funny is while I was in the LAX airport for my layover, I ran into Cook and his gang. We were in the same gate area haha. Only he was headed to Florida, and I was leaving Florida.

Wow! The two of them together at the same airport gate area. They must have been mobbed by fans.

But Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be heading back to Florida after Hawaii for the Disney thing this week, so Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m excited! Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve been trying to not adjust to Hawaiian time, because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m already in the Florida time zone mode lol. But I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t wait for the Disney thing!

LOL! David is so funny. There’s that dry wit again, as Cook calls it. I bet he’s looking forward to meeting up with Jordin.

ETA: :ponder_tb: If Cook was already in LA, why didn’t he stick around to attend Clive’s party? Could it be that they really weren’t invited after all?

How do we know HE needs serious help? maybe SHE needs serious help.

If he was in an abusive household, and he in turn became an abuser, connect the dots. Of course he needs help if he feels the need to hit a woman he is dating. The break up excuse is ludicrous. I’ve broken up with a few guys here and there and have never been battered for it.

Of course she needs help if she’s been letting him kick her ass. There is evidence that this sort of stuff is rampant in their demographic, maybe she will become the face of young domestic violence. I am sure it wasn’t a part of either of their marketing strategy.

Again we donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know what happened. Thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all sorts of rumors on the internet about him wanting to break up with à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“herà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and she wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have it. So we should wait to see what happens and why it happened.

I don’t care if Rihanna was cussing him out and talking crap about his Momma, PHYSICAL ASSAULT (if that was what happened) is NEVER justified.

^^yeah…how would that make injuring her, to the point she had to go to the hospital, ok?

IMO the most damning thing is the statement Chris Brown’s ppl made about how he’s a good guy but “human”. Err….

Letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not get dramatic. How do we know HE needs serious help? maybe SHE needs serious help.

I would agree that it is possible that she needs serious help. If she was injured, she needs help. If she was abused and denies or fails to report that abuse she needs help. If she is in an abusive situation, she needs the help of others to safely get out.

However, if the allegations prove to be true, he needs serious help as well. According to interviews, he has admitted growing up in an abusive household. Statistically speaking that means he is more likely to continue the pattern of abuse. He will need help to break that pattern.

No matter what the cause of the arguement there is never -EVER- an excuse for abusing a family member or significant other (or anyone else). I urge anyone who might be in this situation to call 1-800-799-SAFE or TTY 1-800-787-3224.

If one person is helped by this situation, then something positive has come out of a very bad chapter in the lives of all involved.

If Cook was already in LA, why didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t he stick around to attend Cliveà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s party? Could it be that they really werenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t invited after all?

Cook was in Florida the day of the Grammys. Archie met him in the airport when he flew to Hawaii, Cook was heading to Florida – They were both leaving LA at the same time (pre-Grammys) heading for different destinations.

I don’t know if they were invited, but neither of them was in LA to attend anyway.

Aw. The Davids are going to be reunited. They are too adorkable.

Cook was in Florida the day of the Grammys. Archie met him in the airport when he flew to Hawaii, Cook was heading to Florida – They were both leaving LA at the same time (pre-Grammys) heading for different destinations.

Yes, but my point is David Cook could have remained an extra day in LA so that he could attend the Clive party on Saturday, since peeps here have been saying that this party is a very big deal for networking. They said it’s something a young upcoming artist should not pass up on.

I’m guessing that they met up at the airport on Friday since Archie was in Hawaii for Ahona Day on Saturday.

Cookie’s Ameristar show in Kansas City sold out in 6 minutes this morning!

Oh you know what’s funny is while I was in the LAX airport for my layover, I ran into Cook and his gang. We were in the same gate area haha. Only he was headed to Florida, and I was leaving Florida.

How this two keep finding each other with out their big and passionate, I don ´t want to said insane, fanbases finding out… they are ninjas… :laugh_tb:

^ Cool! It’s crazy how these tickets are selling out. I just read one article about Taylor Swift selling out the Staples Center in 2 effing minutes! How the hell is that even possible?! Scalpers?!

Yes, but my point is David Cook could have remained an extra day in LA so that he could attend the Clive party on Saturday, since peeps here have been saying that this party is a very big deal for networking.

Maybe he could have and maybe not, he didn’t go to Florida on holiday, he went there to start tour rehearsals, and quite possibly also to prepare for whatever it is he’s doing on GMA and the Disney event. I have no idea how early the plans were put in motion and whether or not an invitation to a party would have trumped these plans. My guess – no. David Cook hasn’t shown a great penchant so far for attending the glitzy party side of Hollywood. I can definitely imagine him passing on Clive’s party if they already had a schedule lined up.

I just don’t know that going to that party is something that’s top priority above everything else. It’s an honor to be invited, but if you’re not performing… it’s just a party.

Jennifer Hudson is amont the list for Best Dressed at the Grammys, Jordid is an Amost Best Dressed and Paula is worst dressed at the EW list…

Post ho-ing away, but I just saw this picture of David and Andy in a helicopter, I’m assuming from Iraq, and I think it’s just awesome.
I love that they got to go there, do something good, and have all sorts of new experiences along the way.

^^ Thanks Jolene. Now that’s hot! Could they be any cuter?

If Cook was already in LA, why didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t he stick around to attend Cliveà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s party? Could it be that they really werenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t invited after all?

I wouldn’t be surprised if both David C. and Archie weren’t invited to Clive’s party. Cos, Clive didn’t have anything to do with their records, right?

Idk whether Archie thanked Clive in his album notes or not, but David C. only thanked Barry Weiss..

^^yeah that’s probably it.. coz I think if the Davids were invited to the party, they would attend it in a heartbeat. They would probably rearrange their schedule to make way for it. It’s not just a party…you’d get to meet a lot of big named stars (you even get to see them perform in close proximity), lots of big time producers… all the right people that you could be so lucky to work with in the future. They’re relatively new, I don’t think they’d see themselves to be above this kind of event.

About Rihanna and Chris Brown…it’s sad that these things happen. I wonder if CB’s career can survive this, it’s a pretty huge scandal… especially for someone squeaky clean like him.

Update on the Build a Bear project…

* David Archuleta will be the first to record the song.
* Available in 5 days, as in Feb. 14th – Valentineà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Day!
* The song will be available as a download for $1. BAB will donate that $1 to Save the Children Foundation.
* The download card is available in the stores at the register. (not sure if it will be available on the website.)
* The download will be available until March 4th ONLY. YIKES! Not a lot of time.
* There will be a sign with Davidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s cutey-patootey face at the front of the store, at the register and where the t-shirts will be on display. She thinks it is the Album cover picture.
* T-shirts should also be available on the 14th. Not sure what they look like, though. Not sure if the Canadian stores will be getting the t-shirts.
* However, the Canadian stores will be getting the song in both English and French (obviously David did not sing the French version).

source: Fans of David

ETA: I’m not sure, but I think the T-shirts are for the stuffed animals to wear, not for people. Haha.

Idk whether Archie thanked Clive in his album notes or not, but David C. only thanked Barry Weiss..

I checked. Archie also thanked Barry Weiss but made no mention of Clive Davis.

Cool blog post about David A. http://blogs.augusta.com/node/2167

So, if she got pushy or loud, she deserved a smack? Or, if he was drunk, we should forgive him?
Not in my world. Sorry.

Not in my world either. There is no excuse for violence, especially against women or children, or anyone smaller or weaker.

Sorry I got it wrong about Chris Brown being a rapper. I don’t follow Jordin Sparks or top 40 music much. Very true, mj, that domestic violence cuts across economic, racial and cultural lines. I shouldn’t have lumped it together with other violence.

Re: Clive’s party, it’s very likely the Davids weren’t invited, but it’s also possible that they had other commitments. I’m sorry they didn’t get to go, whatever the reason.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“The whole thing with Chris Brown is really sad. He obviously needs some serious help!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not get dramatic. How do we know HE needs serious help? maybe SHE needs serious help.

Well, since you directly quoted me and then followed up with the “Let’s not get dramatic” comment, I feel compelled to respond. I firmly believe that he does need serious help if he committed an act of violence against someone. Allegedly the woman has a broken nose. I dont know people who go around hitting people so I think when people do, they need to get some help. That is not a normal way of responding. I dont’ care what she did or didn’t do, what he did was not justified. So I dont think I was being dramatic at all – jsut stating my opinion.

Again we donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know what happened. Thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all sorts of rumors on the internet about him wanting to break up with à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“herà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and she wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have it. So we should wait to see what happens and why it happened.

There’s never EVER EVER an excuse for domestic violence. I don’t give a flying FUCK what she did. If he hit her, he was WRONG.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/09/rihanna-bloody-and-bruised/

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ Rihanna’s injuries were severe — two “huge contusions” which swelled up on both sides of her forehead. We’re told she also suffered “a bloody lip and nose.”

One of the law enforcement people put it this way — the contusions “look like an MMA fighter or something … [It] looked like she was growing devil’s horns.”

There is NO reason or excuse to do that to a woman. NONE. If the above is true he did a hell of a lot more than just HIT her.

He’s an idiot if the allegations are true. So yes, he does need help. Not just help, but significant jail time.

It’s sad that someone would throw their life away when they seemingly had everything going for them. The situation is sad on so many levels.

Honestly, could she have tripped and fallen to get these injuries? Maybe I’m completely naive, but I still believe in the whole innocent until proven guilty thing. Have any witnesses come forth? I realize everyone is saying IF, but I’d like to know more. Maybe I never will, but…

Having said that, anyone who hurts someone who is weaker than them deserves jail/prison time and needs major/major help.

Let me just preface this by saying that I believe Rihanna’s claim that Chris Brown hit her…BUT I’ve read about some women who set up men by having someone else hit them.

Which is probably not the case since if I were a devious bitch who looked like Rihanna, I probably would have planned on not breaking my nose.

I agree that there’s no excuse for violence, and no tolerance for it. If true, jail time is warranted and also getting help. Women in that situation might need help too.

It is sad that a young person with so much going for him can’t control his inner demons, if allegations are true. Sad that the cycle of violence repeats itself. Hopefully he will get help with that. Anyone who acts out violently definitely needs help.

What happened to Jennifer Hudson’s family is a case of domestic violence taken to its worst extreme. Women and children are killed frequently due to domestic violence. It begins with hitting and usually gets worse.

It kills me to hear people blame the victim. That’s really disappointing but sadly it’s common.

Honestly, could she have tripped and fallen to get these injuries?

Not if the injuries are as described. Also charges were brought against him. There would be no charges filed if she tripped and fell.

Why are people looking for excuses to make for him? Is it because they like him and don’t want it to be true? Of course he hasn’t been tried and convicted, but it’s clear that violence occurred here.

Both DCTR and DATA are due to drop in Brazil in March according to Portal POPLine. The website is in Portuguese, but this is the translation:

The two American Idol finalistsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ albums in stores in March

David Cook and David Archuleta (pictured), will be released in Brazil. Their albums will be in stores in March. The winner and the runner-up of the 2008 season of American Idol, despite having the same name, have styles that are very different.

David Cook (right)
With a rock rhythm, his first single is à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Light On.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  The video debuts tomorrow (02/10) at 9 AM (Brazilian time) on MTV Brazil. Soon, it will be on other TV channels.

David Archuleta (left)
Is a true pop star. “Crush,” his first hit, debuts on Wednesday (02/11), also on MTV Brazil, at 9 AM. Other TV channels will have the video on their programs by the end of the month.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“The albums will be in stores in March. Because of the carnival, I believe it will be in the second half of the month,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  said a Sony Music representative exclusively to POPLine. The record company plans to premiere them on pop radio.

Besides the Davids, another American Idol artist will be released. Jennifer Hudson will have her album debut here as well.

It has been sad to read articles online at various websites today and see the amount of excuse making on Chris Brown’s behalf. I think some of his fans are so desperate to hang onto their perception of him that they aren’t letting themselves see reality. Seeing a hero fall of a pedestal is never easy but that’s probably a good reason not to put any celebrity on one in the first place. We don’t KNOW any of these people. It doesn’t matter how nice they are on tv. It doesn’t matter how many autographs they sign and how many pictures they take. It doesn’t matter how religious they claim to be. Much of it is an illusion and we need to be careful not to buy into it too much.

As has been said ad nauseum in this thread, it doesn’t matter what Rihanna did or didn’t do. Even if she was the clingiest girlfriend in the world or the world’s biggest bitch, she didn’t deserve to be beaten. Chris Brown probably needs some therapy and definitely needs some anger management skills. Otherwise it WILL happen again, either to Rihanna or another girl.

Seeing a hero fall off a pedestal is never easy but thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s probably a good reason not to put any celebrity on one in the first place.

Now that is something we can agree on. We have to be careful that we don’t expect these people to be perfect, because they are human.

Hitting someone though is a major is a pretty major mistake that you wouldn’t expect from a decent, reasonable person.

Why are people looking for excuses to make for him? Is it because they like him and donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want it to be true? Of course he hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t been tried and convicted, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s clear that violence occurred here.

I can only answer for myself. I had personally never heard of Chris Brown before “No Air” and it wasn’t until I saw the name over and over that I realized he was even well known. (Never pursued him further.) I’m not even a Jordin fan in the sense that I own her music. I just believe in the whole innocent until proven guilty system in our country. (However, I’ll be the first to admit that this system doesn’t always work especially when the famous are involved.)

I also don’t know a THING about Rihanna, but I do know of a particular situation (perhaps the only abuse situation I know almost first hand) where the woman was the true abuser. So I’m only saying anything can be possible.

OMG! My heart so goes out to all of the women who are abused and don’t feel as if they can do anything about it! I cannot imagine being in this situation and I would be the first to fight for this person if I was aware of something like this.

The whole innocent until proven guilty thing is reserved for the court of law. Chris Brown will get his chance through the due process of law.

People are reacting to the news, which seems damning. The latest is that the person who called 911 was not Rhianna, which means there could be witnesses.

As far as I can tell, Chris Brown is healthy and not hurt in any way. So I’m not sure how the woman, in this case Rhianna, could be the *true* abuser. If she said or did something he didn’t like, that’s no excuse.

pj, point taken. My final word, may justice be served.

Some pictures online of Chris Brown in his lawyer’s car with his face covered showed bruises on his knuckles. If he hit her with his fist with enough force to cause those bruises on his hand, the punches must have hurt her very much.

They are so young. I wish them both well. I hope that she’ll be strong enough to get out of the relationship.