Idol Headlines for 2/5/08

Fox News just won’t give Kelly a break, calling her album a dud is totally unfair. Saying that she was on bad terms with Clive…but Fox411′s Friedman tries to stir up stuff. He needs to stop it.

I didn’t get to watch but at 11 last night on NH public television there was supposed to be a Daughtry concert on. I was too tired to get up and tape it!

I love AJ Tabaldo! I was completely shocked when he got eliminated, i thought he had such a good voice and so much room to grow. I’ll have to check out the cd when it comes out!!

MARDI GRAS DAY in Mobile!

I was wanting to get that Curtain Call album because I thought there would be some new JPL music in there, but apparently his tracks in the compilation came from his Hollywood Stories album. Sigh.

RE: Jordin Sparks Triumph At Super Bowl; Paula Abdul, …. Drop The Ball

So, Does this mean that Jordin is now more qualified to be performance judge than Pauler ?
:ponder_tb:

BTW, some critics just don’t realize that anything will sound good when it’s pre-recorded.

Who Is Taylor Hicksà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ Mystery Ladyfriend ?

Why would the writer care if he is so insignificant as the writer says ?

I thought Ms. Sparks lit up the Superbowl.

Paula did lip-sync but I enjoy the song and boy can she still dance!

One Mtv article said Paula was good the others states not so good in the headline? Diferent opinions I guess it is the press. Jordan is pretaped and also I have HEARD others that can SING AS WELL or better they were just not onthe show, for doing NA . It was not surprising. The media is based on “the looks” why Jordan and not Mandisa or even Juhd who admits she was not the skinny ones?

Complaint about plants how about Jordan? She was known by the producers probably and never was mentioned negetivly about her age like past contestants.Her father was a football player and she was on Ai that is why she sang the NA.

Taylor dating more then one girl ,right big news? Might be a slow news day or a little too much attention paid. Mcphees picture under Heath Ledger memorial announcement just reminds me no AI can ever hold a candle to him.

I am still laughing my head off that they are trying to make news out Taylor — a single healthy male — might be dating an “escort” or a news anchor.

Unless the “woman” in the photo is a circus animal in disguise, WHO CARES!!! … and even so …. who cares!

While it is true that anyone can sound okay if prerecorded and digitally messed with, the truth of the matter is that Jordan has already proven she can sing, period. I didn’t think that her rendition was that great, but just because it was prerecorded doesn’t mean it was pieced together to make her sound good, hell if that’s the case I think they could have done a better job.

Paula’s video was cute, and that damn song is now etched in my brain. I think that was the point, mission accomplished.

I still don’t quite get the Taylor thing, but I guess someone went through so much trouble to obfuscate what exactly? His taste for working girls, hell what’s the big deal with that? There have been gay finalists, ex drug users, shop lifters, and other assorted pecadillos, etc. Certainly by the time this crap happened it wasn’t as though this could harm him in any way.

Sorry about the rant…..I knew it was going to happen with Ai taking advantage of the superbowl but not to this extent.

Superbowl is the game to me and wanted not an influx of idol stuff. Jordan singing I understand w/ father but why not someone more established?Yes it also is confusing to me like people are surprised the winner does not or may not do as well as others and AI always had plants or favorites . The producers egos are way to big or living in thier own dementions I think because others shows seem to be in tune to world in terms of expectations. Rant over for ever. The cycle will start over again and inten years nobady probaly wonder why thier was an argument .

I think the point of the Taylor article is not that he hired an escort, but that he tried to cover it up by hiring a look-a-like to play his girlfriend so the escort isn’t discovered.

This is all a joke about Taylor, right????? Please tell me that this issue isn’t taken seriously?
Taylor….get that Dvd and Cd out pronto! The natives are restless! sheeeeeeeesh!

I think the point of the Taylor article is not that he hired an escort, but that he tried to cover it up by hiring a look-a-like to play his girlfriend so the escort isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t discovered.

Seriously? That’s what that article is about? The World News not have any stories about alien invasions or a woman giving birth to a litter of puppies?

These conspiracy stories get crazier each week. Poor Taylor. He gets dropped by his label because he doesn’t make enough money. Now, he not only has to hire an escort, but he has to hire another girlfriend to cover up the escort. I bet he’s hoping for bigger tips when he parks cars at Clive’s Grammy gig next week.

This reminds me of the old days when people used to talk about crazed conspiracy theories, ex-girlfriends allegedly stealing 20K from Idols and wife’s surgical records. Some things I miss about the old days. Some things I do not. (BTW, don’t ask for details on those last two. MJ has asked us in the past not to discuss ubstantiated rumours and personal gossip about relatives/friends of Idols. Something I agree with and was glad when she closed those discussions. Suffice to say, none of our business. So, that’s all I’ll say on the subject. Either this is a crazed conspiracy theory which is off limits or it’s a discussion about the personal life of some random girl in Hawaii who does not wish to be in the public eye which is also off limits. I’m beginning to wish I hadn’t posted anything at all, but the entire thing just called out for a mocking).

I posted the Radar Online story expecting a meta discussion…about the media, and the fan groups, and how and why conspiracy theories start in the first place.

I have to admit that the whole phenomenon fascinates me to no end.

An excerpt from Mandisa’s latest MySpace blog:

So, I can finally talk about the reason I was on my way to LA (and sorry to those of you I missed at Winter Jam in Birmingham…I had a good reason). Many of you have already heard or read on the internet that a friend of mine got married Saturday. That’s right. I’d like to introduce you to Mrs. Nicholas Constantine Cokas…better known to most of you as Katharine McPhee. It was one of the most beautiful weddings I have ever been to. I want to respect their privacy though so I’ll be brief and just tell you that I adore Nick. He is a very godly man (with an infectious smile ). I was honored to sing during the ceremony and it was great being able to share such an important part of Kat’s life. Be sure to check out next week’s edition of People magazine. They were the only publication granted exclusive access to the wedding.

Funny thing happened on my way home from the wedding. It seems that all of my flights this weekend were celebrity central. Guess who I FINALLY met on the airplane from LA back home? RUBEN!!! ( LOL) Honestly, it was so surreal. For those of you who do not know the history, I have had a pretty big crush on Mr. Studdard ever since seeing him on season 2 of American Idol (and isn’t it cool being able to relive that on American Idol Rewind?) Many of you remember that I even dedicated “If I Were Your Woman” to Ruben during the American Idols Live Tour. Well that prompted a surprise phone call from the Velvet Teddy Bear to yours truly while the tour was still going on. We traded voicemail messages but never actually met…until Sunday! Guys! I was so nervous! We spoke very briefly on the plane and then a little more once we landed in Atlanta but I had another flight to catch to Nashville so our time was limited. Will I hear from him again? Who knows…

ITA with Kristen.

“MJ has asked us in the past not to discuss ubstantiated rumours and personal gossip about relatives/friends of Idols. Something I agree with and was glad when she closed those discussions. Suffice to say, none of our business. So, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll say on the subject. Either this is a crazed conspiracy theory which is off limits or ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a discussion about the personal life of some random girl in Hawaii who does not wish to be in the public eye which is also off limits.”

BTW, what is this meta discussion MJ is hoping for?

I posted the Radar Online story expecting a meta discussionà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦about the media, and the fan groups, and how and why conspiracy theories start in the first place.

This particular one is so over the top, I suspect that we are dealing with a person who is mentally unstable (either that or it is a huge joke and meta itself). To give it more press is kind of like sending Margaret Ray a wedding present. I’m sure that she would appreciate it (had she not already killed herself). Letterman probably would not.

Most fan related conspiracy theories I’ve seen seem to be related to their careers. Since the fans are convinced that their “hero” is the latest, greatest, most bestest artist in the world, clearly, if they are not successful, some nefarious forces must be at work. Some of it is from too much investment while other conspiracy theories are just cracking good fun (and never really taken seriously anyway…visit the Grassy Knoll on TWoP). Every once in a while, some grain of one of these theories appears to be true which of course just adds fuel to the fire.

The conspiracy theories related to the personal lives seem to germinate in a more troubling area. People who invent those theories (again, unless it is as a joke) really seem to have a nut loose. Frankly, I find it kind of sad and I hope that they get whatever help or care they need because sometimes it leads to a very frightening situation.

I realize that some people might think that I’m making a HUGE leap to consider the inventor of this theory as needing psychological help (maybe that I’m even inventing my own wild conspiracy theory), but it’s really not normal to come up with such an illogical theory and actually believe that it is true. I seem to recall one of the earlier reports mentioning that investigators had been hired to find this girl? Really? What normal person would spend money on such an investigation unless maybe they were related to the persons in question? Anyway, this is just my opinion.

Hopefully, the inventor of this theory is either having fun or is just a little off their rocker, but mostly harmless to themselves and others. Some things deserve mockery. Mentally insane people deserve help.

BTW, what is this meta discussion MJ is hoping for?

I know this discussion has been banned at all of Taylor’s fangroups, but my blog is not a fangroup.

This is no different than when Page Six posts gossip about Blake keeping his neighbors up at night (turned out to be untrue, how about that). It’s not like some anonymous person dropped by the blog (like back in the so-called “good old days”) and dropped a completely out of the blue unsubstantiated rumor in the comments section. Yep, I stopped discussion on that crap.

But, whether you like it or not, the issue has entered the blogosphere. Therefore, it’s up for discussion.

So you can read it or not… Comment on it or not…

I think we are all smart enough to separate the gossip from the absolute truth. And as far as the discussion I was hoping for…

Well, maybe not.

Taylor Hicks appearing on Live with Regis and Kelly Feb. 8, 2008.

Perhaps you’ve heard about the engaged couple (the wife-to-be and her daughter are being treated at the Shriners’ Hospital after suffering severe burns) whose wish was to have Taylor Hicks at their wedding. The couple won a contest by Regis & Kelly to have their wedding on the TV show and Taylor will be on the show at the same time to discuss his plans for 2008 and perhaps congratulate the couple!

Taylor will make an appearance on Live with Regis and Kelly during “Wedding Week 2008″ on Friday, February 8 @ 9am EST/PST (ABC Network). Also, tune into the show’s recap of the wedding reception on Monday, February 12, which will also include Taylor.

I posted the Radar Online story expecting a meta discussionà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦about the media, and the fan groups, and how and why conspiracy theories start in the first place.

Here’s a great blog on the subject of tearing down our Hereos:
Where Are the Heroes?
“We are a nation of rubber-neckers, stopping entire mile-long lanes of traffic to gaze at a roadside car accident. We love a good, long juicy sob story. We root for the underdog, but we don’t want them to climb too far up out of the grave we’ve relegated them to.”

Perhaps it’s just natural selection. The press hunt out the weak, the sick, the old, and the injured celebs. They help the population of celebs by taking away the weak and letting the strong survive. This is important part in the ecological system. Without the press to eliminate the weak, old , sick and injured, the herd of celebs would swelter. They would become so numerous that they would starve to death. The press helps keep them healthy by insuring the breeding of the strong (case in point: Brangelina).

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not like some anonymous person dropped by the blog (like back in the so called à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“good old daysà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and dropped a completely out of the blue unsubstantiated rumor.

In defense of those posters who posted the alledged 20K stealing and surgical story postings (it wasn’t an evil surgery, just a very personal one), they were long time posters here and claimed that they were bringing the discussion over from other boards. Those discussions were still crap and they shouldn’t have been dissemenating them, but at least they weren’t making the stuff up just to stir up trouble. Sure, the 20K poster ended up doing a lot of other very strange things (and I’m tempted to make a DMSIV diagnosis for her too, but that will only get you all to think I’m crazy too, which I am a little OCD now that you mention it). And I do realize that we are all pretty much anonymous, so I’m not really clarifying anything here am I?

I also do realize that there is a difference between somebody taking the trouble to blog about something as opposed to people who merely comment on message boards, so again, not clarifying anything.

LOL. I swore I wasn’t going to post on this stuff and here I am getting embroiled in it. I’m such a maroon. I’m making people mad, aren’t I? Okay, I’ll be a good girl.

LOL. I swore I wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t going to post on this stuff and here I am getting embroiled in it. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m such a maroon. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m making people mad, arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t I? Okay, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be a good girl.

No, not really. .

Sure, the 20K poster ended up doing a lot of other very strange things

She was the queen of sockpuppets. lol.

FWIW, I think the whole conspiracy theory is ridiculous. I can’t believe it’s gotten this far. I suspect Radaronline just enjoys poking the Tay-hive.

I pretty much agree with every thing Kirsten said. I also agree that, since it’s “out there” in the blogoshpere, it’s up for discussion. I’m a Taylor fan but I find it ridiculous that this can’t be discussed on a fan site. Of course, the owners/mods of those sites have every right to not discuss it if they so choose.

As far as the phenomenon that causes some fans to have a need to become so involved in these people’s lives, I find it kind of sad. This Taylor conspiracy, however, is nothing compared to the theories that invested fans of Big Brother contestants come up with, so Taylor should count his blessings he was only on AI. The Big Brother fans feel as though they “know” the contestants since they watch them on live feeds 24/7 for three months. It’s ridiculous.

Okay, I commented on this whole Taylor story and my comment is awaiting moderation. I can’t really figure out what I wrote to cause that. Hopefully, it will clear, otherwise I’ll try to reword it in a little while.

Kristin — no as a matter of fact you’re not making me mad. What makes me mad is that “propagating” this type of column in a respected “non-fan” site just encourages the bloggers to continue their “truth mission”. After all, they’ve been trying for 7 months to bring some legitimacy to their theories by getting published in a national publication. Whether a blog, underground newspaper, whatever. They are delighted at the progress they’ve made.

BTW, just because this trash has been published in a “magazine” (or rag if you wish) — doesn’t make it any less of an unsubstantiated rumour.

Tamyra Gray sang the National Anthem at the NY Giants celebration that just finished at NY City Hall. That was a surprise! She was ok, but a little screechy (I think she started too high).

delete.

BTW, just because this trash has been published in a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“magazineà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  (or rag if you wish) à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make it any less of an unsubstantiated rumour.

Right. Just like Page6. It’s gossip. No kidding.

What makes me mad is that “propagating” this type of column in a respected “non-fan” site just encourages the bloggers to continue their “truth mission”.

Those people are pretty obsessed. I don’t think they need encouragement to continue.

ETA: Also, in this particular case, I don’t see it as my role to “discourage” or “encourage” those bloggers to do anything.

So, I can finally talk about the reason I was on my way to LA (and sorry to those of you I missed at Winter Jam in Birminghamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦I had a good reason). Many of you have already heard or read on the internet that a friend of mine got married Saturday. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s right. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d like to introduce you to Mrs. Nicholas Constantine Cokasà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦better known to most of you as Katharine McPhee. It was one of the most beautiful weddings I have ever been to. I want to respect their privacy though so Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be brief and just tell you that I adore Nick. He is a very godly man (with an infectious smile ). I was honored to sing during the ceremony and it was great being able to share such an important part of Katà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s life.

In the words of all those crazy kids over at IDF……Praise Mandisa!!!!!!

:wub_tb: :wub_tb:

Go, juliegr!
ITA

I have a sneaking suspicion that if these unsubstantiated rumors were concerning any other idol, there would be snark galore.

I think the rumors are nothing but a crock, but it is kind-of fascinating how involved some of the supporters and detractors are.

Haha, Mandisa’s crush on Ruben is oh so cute!

ETA: Also, in this particular case, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see it as my role to à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“discourageà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  or à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“encourageà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  those bloggers to do anything.

Some people don’t seem to need overt “encouragement” ~~~ in this case, the bloggers apparently feel that anyone who repeats or reprints their screed are in agreement with the content. Not to mention the goggle/yahoo alerts that this column and other AI associated publications generate is “grist for their mill”. In other words, it makes them do the happy dance. I’m sure that’s not the case with all writers since the writer in the publication referenced today does write “If there is one (scam/fake girlfriend)”. He also actually admitted that whole subject is a “joke”. Also, FTR, these people aren’t fans — there are a total of about a dozen different posting ID’s in the response section — believe me, fans wouldn’t write this stuff. I’m a fan and would like to bring more “fan” articles and commentary to THIS blog but have been discouraged from posting fan articles in the past — however, ugly rumours or even “snarking” doesn’t receive the same type of response.

Maybe some of the “supporters” are just disgusted with the attention the “detractors” are receiving — while the “supporters” are never called out. Also, there is plenty of “snark” flung around freely and why would anyone want to snark on such an unseemly subject?

I suspect Radaronline just enjoys poking the Tay-hive.

Ah. Bingo!

Maybe some of the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“supportersà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  are just disgusted with the attention the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“detractorsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  are receiving à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  while the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“supportersà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  are never called out. Also, there is plenty of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“snarkà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  flung around freely and why would anyone want to snark on such an unseemly subject?

Do I need to go back in time and pull quotes? People snark and speculate on all kinds of unseemly subjects around here. Maybe you read all the Taylor posts and skip everything else. lol.

in this case, the bloggers apparently feel that anyone who repeats or reprints their screed are in agreement with the content.

If that’s the case (which is debatable) then they have reading comprehension problems. But, I don’t really care what they think.

Not to mention the goggle/yahoo alerts that this column and other AI associated publications generate is “grist for their mill”. In other words, it makes them do the happy dance.

Again, their thoughts aren’t my concern.

My guidelines warn the uberfan that I’ll be posting the good, the bad and the ugly, and that the sensitive need to tread carefully here. It’s a warning that bears repeating in this case.

“Tamyra Gray sang the National Anthem at the NY Giants celebration that just finished at NY City Hall. That was a surprise! She was ok, but a little screechy (I think she started too high).”

thanks for the info. that is great that 2 of my favorite Idols ever Jordin and now Tamyra got to sing the National Anthem in relation to the Super Bowl this year .great exposure for both . i hope a clip from Tamyra shows up online .

I have a sneaking suspicion that if these unsubstantiated rumors were concerning any other idol, there would be snark galore.

I, for one, LOVE having my motives questioned. Yes, why ever take what people say at face value when you can accuse them of being biased and fanatical?

Did you not read what I wrote? Did you not see how I posted that I do not appreciate the gosspip/rumours of friend’s and relation’s personal lives? Did you not see how I mentioned two previous instances of gossip/rumours? Are you not aware that neither of those “blind” items were refering to Taylor? I know you are not a fan, so let me clue you in…Taylor never had a wife so there is no speculation about what types of surgery she may or may not have had. I also doubt that pre-Idol, he ever had $20K to steal, so that wasn’t him either.

Wow! Isn’t that earth shattering? Somebody who doesn’t like unsubstantiated rumours about Idols friends/families regardless of whether they like or dislike the Idol? Can it be? Are most people normal human beings who don’t turn everything into a fan war? Is that possible? Why, yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus and some people can look past which Idol is involved and evaulate a situation based on other issues. If you had been around then, you would have seen me rip apart the logic of the 20K theory and criticize the dissemination of both rumours.

And, believe it or not, but if you read my response to your earlier post in this very thread today, you’ll actually see me snarking on Taylor (okay, it’s the old car parking joke, but it’s pratically the anniversary for that particular joke so I’m feeling nostalgic…I never claimed my snark was original, ground breaking or even amusing, but I think that I can claim that I’ve at least attempted to snark on Taylor).

Caveat: This is not my board. I don’t make the rules. I’m just saying why I rarely comment on such topics. Why does anybody care? I don’t know. Sometimes, I just like to ramble. Scroll bar is on the right–>

Taylor who? Oh, yeah, call me when the new CD is out. I’ll watch him on Regis & Kelly, but I have a sickening feeling that he’ll have to sing DIMYP in which case, I think I’ll skip breakfast.

Remember season 7? Someone was looking for video of the Hollywood Round commercials that Fox has been showing. I found these carp quality videos on YouTube:

Featuring Brooke White and Robbie Carrico (singing Everything I Do in greasy, whiny boyband style):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0oD-x9VxPYs

Featuring Brooke White, someone else and David Cook (singing “Everything I Do” in Chris Daughtry style, only not hurting my ears so much:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=p5xaPiLbI80

Hmm, they pimped Brooke in two commercials. TCO, possibly?

I didn’t know that anything was wrong with Melissa McGhee, but glad to see that everything is O.K. now. I loved the smoky quality of her voice, so I hope the change in her voice wasn’t too drastic.

And here’s hoping Ruben can make room on his dance card for Mandisa — what a hoot.

Why do you think my comment was directed at you, Kirsten?
I don’t recall putting your name in my comment.

Featuring Brooke White, someone else and David White

Dave White is singing? Wow. I love his recaps and now he’s on the show. Woo! I have picked my horse even if he can’t sing worth a darn.

Who is this Brooke White chica? I’m not watching the auditions (just catching the highlights on YouTube. It’s actually quite a relief because I always used to feel guilty watching. That’s just crazy old me). Is she a contender?

LOL I laughed at Dave White, too. I believe cheese meant David Cook?
ETA: I see it’s been fixed.

Dave White is singing? Wow. I love his recaps and now heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s on the show. Woo! I have picked my horse even if he canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sing worth a darn.

I guess Dave White is my very favorite Dave. Heh. But I went back and fixed it anyway. I don’t want to post anything about Brooke one way or the other for fear of pissing mj off, but they showed her backstory and stuck in both Hollywood commercials shown during the Superbowl, so, maybe?

Why do you think my comment was directed at you, Kirsten?
I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t recall putting your name in my comment.

I assumed that your comments were directed at all of us who had commented negatively on the subject since you didn’t mention any names at all. Perhaps if you intend not to make a global condemnation you might want to make your comments less declaritive. Plus, I’m sure that some of the other posters don’t appreciate having their motives questioned as well. People rarely do.

I just caught this:

I’m a fan and would like to bring more “fan” articles and commentary to THIS blog but have been discouraged from posting fan articles in the past.

Name an instance, Julie. Just one instance. I discourage people from posting minute by minute play by play of Taylor’s movements and whereabouts, because obviously that’s boring to those who aren’t big Taylor fans. But articles about him? Post them. I do. So do others.

however, ugly rumours or even “snarking” doesn’t receive the same type of response.

lol. Be happy you’re not a Kat fan. Not that it’s much of an issue these days.

Remember season 7? Someone was looking for video of the Hollywood Round commercials that Fox has been showing. I found these carp quality videos on YouTube:

Thanks for bringing those over, Cheese.

Frankly I am upset that Taylor fansites won’t discuss this stupid story. To me it gives it power. It’s like the claymates not discussing out in the open the possibility of Clay being gay. It’s just stupid. I mean this is what fansites are about I mean it’s not only about the music all of the time because there will always be lulls in communications and nothing to talk about. This is when the rumours take on a life of their own.

When I first heard about this Taylor story, I went to the fansite at which I am a member and there was nothing. I was disappointed that I had to search and then wound up at this very weirdass site that was run and visited by a bunch of lunatics.

I am a BIG Ruben fan. I am glad that he and Mandisa ran into each other. They would make a beautiful couple, they seem to have much in common, although I heard Ruben has had a ladyfriend for a while, who knows what happened with that. I think the crush is cute too.

Frankly I am upset that Taylor fansites wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t discuss this stupid story. To me it gives it power. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s like the claymates not discussing out in the open the possibility of Clay being gay. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just stupid. I mean this is what fansites are about I mean ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not only about the music all of the time because there will always be lulls in communications and nothing to talk about. This is when the rumours take on a life of their own.

When I helped run a fansite for JPL, basically anything went, and I don’t regret that. I thought it was healthy for the community. Posting something isn’t agreeing with it…it’s just offering it up for discussion.

Btw, Neonoranage, thanks for posting that article, it looks interesting.

I’m not holding out any hope that Brooke is this year’s TCO. Remember last year they showed Leslie Hunt in the promo spots? She lasted what, 2 weeks?

Cheese,

Thanks for posting the links to AI SuperBowl Commercials — I was the one looking for them. I missed Brooke White and only heard the ends of Dave White-Cook (lol) and Robbie Carrico. I love that Carol King song that Brooke White was singing and sounds like she does it justice.

And thanks Grammi-Kari for posting the link to the other SuperBowl commercials. I missed a couple of pretty good ones. My favorite one is still the “Bud Light now without fire” one and the head-bobbing one (coca cola Max?)

Name an instance, Julie. Just one instance.

The “discouragement” was wrapped in the ennui with anything related to Taylor and the statements to move on to the next season — again not from you but the blog at large — and there were MANY instances. I call that discouragement. Look, I’m not trying to start a battle here — I’m assuming this is what entails a “meta” discussion. Also none of us should be sensitive about comments or statements made in a “meta” discussion. P.S. very few people can call me “sensitive” or “uber” anything ~~~ I’m a pussycat.

BTW, I do read lots of the posts that are non-Taylor related and I commiserate with the fans whose “idols” are at the receiving end of the skewers and ugly comments. Now I’m moving on and returning to lurkdom!! ciao

lol. Be happy youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re not a Kat fan. Not that ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s much of an issue these days

What is this supposed to mean?? She’s on her honeymoon right now, she’ll be back for you to “snark” on in no time. :bye_tb:

And am I getting this right, this whole argument thing going on here, Taylor hired a call girl???? :ponder_tb:

Not an argument — a “meta” discussion — about so-called legitimate publications publishing rumours and unsubstantiated information. Actually a rumour IS unsubstantiated information so that would be redundant! haha

This is no different than when Page Six posts gossip about Blake keeping his neighbors up at night (turned out to be untrue, how about that).

I feel bad… I busted Blake’s chops for that. Next time I’ll consider the source.

I feel badà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ I busted Blakeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s chops for that.

LOL. Never trust the tabs. What did you bust him for? There was a grain of truth in it (from what I gathered from Blake’s radio comments on the subject)

1) He was making noise
2) His friend’s roommate got mad at them because the roommate claimed that he/she wanted to go to sleep
3) The roommate called police and they came
4) Despite earlier claiming that she/he wanted to go to sleep, the roommate then spent an hour phoning the tabs.
5) Roommate was described as “crazy” (see, I’m not the only one calling people “crazy” these days)

And am I getting this right, this whole argument thing going on here, Taylor hired a call girl????

No, Nanny, keep up. Nobody is upset about the call-girl. The scandal is that he then went and found a look-a-like newscaster and paid her to pretend that she was his girlfriend so that people would think that she was the person who was really the call-girl. But, they don’t know that we know that they know that we know. So don’t tell anybody. Oh, yes, and by my calculation Taylor must be broke after spending all that money on fake girlfriends/call-girls and he is now turning tricks in Tulsa. See, it’s just like the cycle of life.

There was a grain of truth in it

The Page 6 blurb made it sound like Blake and his friends were rude to random strangers who asked them to be quiet. The context was completely missing from the piece. But that’s how tabs operate for the most part. They rarely make something up out of whole cloth.

Super Tuesday & American Idol

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  versus Super Tuesday on television tonight, as the Fox reality juggernaut faces primary election coverage on ABC and at least six cable networks.
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“If you had to pick just one political story to go up against à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹American Idol,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ this is it,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Bob Schieffer, the host of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Face the Nationà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  on CBS, told the New York Post.
On Foxà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Idol,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  the singing try-outs continue, this time in Atlanta. Meanwhile, ABC offers à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Super Tuesday Showdownà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  coverage anchored by Charles Gibson at 8 p.m., commencing five hours of primary election coverage. CBS will begin its coverage at 9 p.m., with Katie Couric anchoring until 11 p.m. NBC will offer one hour in prime time, with Brian Williams anchoring at 10 p.m.

NY Times

Taylor’s fake girlfriend story is so confusing I can’t follow it.I guess it has something to do with some nutty fans which Taylor does have. Blake’s page 6 story was kind of half true. The gossip went along with his “I’m a jerk” persona (Titties in your mouth) so it sounded true even if it was not entirely correct.

According to the HDD numbers, Jordin has fallen out of the Top 50 while she may have sold around the same amount as last week. Maybe her Superbowl appearance will help.

I’ll be shocked if AI doesn’t put up huge numbers tonight. I consider myself to be highly interested in the primary, I can’t, however, watch hours of returns on tv. Also, with 24 hour news coverage on cable, there really is no need to watch the returns during “prime time” on network tv. You can find out anytime on cable, or the net for that matter.

Crap if Taylor is turning tricks in Tulsa and that didn’t make the news he needs a better publicist don’tcha think? Now that is snark, from a self confessed Taylor fan. Really it doesn’t hurt. I mean Kelly’s december tanked (it was good, but it tanked, Ruben is fat, one of the cutest fat boys evah, Fannie is a single mom, oh the horror, Bo is a sickly country rocka, and Melinda has a better chance of dating Ruben, than getting signed. Snarking your faves isn’t painful at all!

Crap if Taylor is turning tricks in Tulsa and that didn’t make the news he needs a better publicist don’tcha think?

The really weird thing about that Radaronline story, is that I think the editors there contacted an expert to prove that the pictures weren’t fake–to prove to the fans that their conspiracy theory was wrong.

The “expert” they found, however, thinks the women in the two pictures are different. She essentially agrees with the conspiracy theorists. lol And she also claims to be a Taylor Hicks fan.

I find the whole thing kind of funny, actually.

I still don’t believe it, btw. There are too many details that don’t add up.

Forgive me for being open minded here since i don’t have any personal investments either way – but what if this about Hicks is very true? I mean this is kind of all over the place now. Don’t you think maybe its time to consider that ok this stuff just very well might be true? That Taylor Hicks was caught on the beach with an escort and covered it up with a fake girlfriend? I’m confused at why people are so resistant to believe this when an expert has already confirmed it. I don’t think Radar believed this stuff until they actually had the expert take a look at the photos. I also don’t believe that some random blogger would just make this stuff up. There’s no motivation to make that up. But if the broad was a hooker Taylor has gotten motivation to the max. I think people need to be a little opened minded is all I’m saying.

No, Nanny, keep up. Nobody is upset about the call-girl. The scandal is that he then went and found a look-a-like newscaster and paid her to pretend that she was his girlfriend so that people would think that she was the person who was really the call-girl. But, they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know that we know that they know that we know. So donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t tell anybody. Oh, yes, and by my calculation Taylor must be broke after spending all that money on fake girlfriends/call-girls and he is now turning tricks in Tulsa. See, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just like the cycle of life.

Jeez, I’m so sorry I couldn’t keep up with that. :unsure_tb:

Anyway it sounds ridiculous.

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s like the claymates not discussing out in the open the possibility of Clay being gay.

That horse has been beaten to death and buried in the yard.

Taylor fan here and I think it is funny that the Taylor girlfriend controversy is still going on. I don’t care whether or not he was with an escort at the beach but it seems very unlikely to me that he would be able to quickly identify someone who looks like the escort and convince them to pretend to be his girlfriend. I really can’t see a professional woman agreeing to do that for any reason and he just happens to remember he met someone that looks almost like the escort? Come on.

I also don’t believe that some random blogger would just make this stuff up. There’s no motivation to make that up.

People create and become obsessed with conspiracy theories all the time. No rational motive needed.

MJ,how many of those looney people get a magazine to cover the story, who then investigates, hires experts confirming the theory and then have it explode all over the internet about a guy that no one really cares that much about anyway? THAT is what I’m talking about.

I think Hicks knew the news anchor or someone he knew knew her and he was in enough of a bind that he didn’t mind calling her up and saying will you do this. I also know an anchor myself and they are fame whores to the max. Playing Hicks’ girlfriend would be a golden ticket. Those gals will do anything to get in the papers. Most of them just want fame anyway, reporting the news is just a way to get there.

covered it up with a fake girlfriend? Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m confused at why people are so resistant to believe this when an expert has already confirmed it.

It’s not the first part (about the escort) that isn’t believable, it’s the fake girlfriend.

A) The fake girlfriend is a newscaster. Somebody already in the public eye. Why would you pick somebody like that instead of Susie Smith (some private person nobody has ever heard of?). She would be cheaper and it would probably be easier to coordinate her time. Plus, nobody would know anything about her.

B) Why would a professional journalist who has a reputation for honesty to try to keep up want to go along with this charade? This is Taylor were talking about. The press calls him a washed-up has been. What’s in it for her? The press says he made no money, so how much can he possibly offer? Clive’s not going to foot the bill.

C) The newscaster/fake girlfriend has attended several concerts around the country. Why carry on the ruse? Why not just “dump her” and save the money? Or, leave her at home. Use her job as an excuse.

D) Nobody cares if he’s seeing an escort. People who clutch their pearls at that were probably already chased off by his smoking and drinking and cussin’.

And I’m not even following the story and I know that much. If I followed it, I would know more.

I’m sorry, this is not logical. At all. When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras. Now this “expert” may be right and the two girls might be different people, what does that prove? That Taylor has a type? I like tall guys with dark hair, doesn’t mean all the guys I’ve dated are giggolos…how do you even spell that word? Even if girl A is an escort, why would that necessarily make girl B a fake girlfriend?

This is driving me nuts! Why do I keep responding to posts on this matter? This is like the most ridiculous thing ever. That’s it, I’m going to come up with some whack-a-doodle conspiracy theories and post them here and see if I can get MJs on Page Six. That’s my goal.

ETA:

MJ,how many of those looney people get a magazine to cover the story, who then investigates, hires experts confirming the theory and then have it explode all over the internet about a guy that no one really cares that much about anyway?

Well, those people who think that the moon landings were faked have had lots of stories about them. There is even a movie. That flat earthers get a lot of press. So do people who think that people are stealing the kidneys of business men in hotel bathrooms. I’ve even seen papers publish the Macy Chocolate Cookie recipe to stick it to the man! Oh, I could go on and on. This conspiracy theory has a long way to go before books are written about it.

“C) The newscaster/fake girlfriend has attended several concerts around the country. Why carry on the ruse? Why not just à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“dump herà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and save the money? Or, leave her at home. Use her job as an excuse.”

That is pretty easy. So in the event that this ever came out, people like you would say, no this is fake because she was at several concerts and they were really together.

I’m just saying if I was going switch one woman for the other, i would do everything and anything to make it seem as legit as possible. It’s not all that hard to pretend and do things for show.

As for nobody caring if he is with an escort…WHAT? American Idol is caught frolicking on the beach with a high paid hooker? You think no one would care? A family show? You can BET people would care.

Poor Taylor… find a nice girl, get married and put out your music. Maybe they’ll leave you alone after that.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“C) The newscaster/fake girlfriend has attended several concerts around the country. Why carry on the ruse? Why not just à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“dump herà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and save the money? Or, leave her at home. Use her job as an excuse.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Sure, nitpick one part of the argument. That’s how the holocaust deniers get away with it too (they get a lot of press, so it MUST be true or fake or whatever!). For instance, they will tell you that the gas chambers at Auschwitz were built after the war by the Polish government. That’s true, because they tore down all the gas chambers in disgust after the war. They built a simulation one so that people who come to the site can get some historical perspective. Doesn’t mean that millions of Jews weren’t killed. Those deniers are idiots.

You think no one would care? A family show? You can BET people would care.

Are you new? This is a show with drug addicts. A show where a judge had bootie calls with contestant. A contestant attempted to have bootie calls with a PA. A contestant had a court dates scheduled for a performance date because of domestic violence charges. A contestant used illegal drugs in front of a reporter. A contestant assaulted a police officer. A contestant showed up naked all over the internet. And several contestants have had “fun” at tour stops with groupees. And that’s just what I remember off the top of my head.

Yes, I think people wouldn’t care.

Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s it, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m going to come up with some whack-a-doodle conspiracy theories and post them here and see if I can get MJs on Page Six. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s my goal.

It’ll be like Sarah and Tara’s fake spoilers! Go for it. lol.

I dont’ know Kirsten, I think based on the image that Taylor Hicks has attempted to project, and the fact that he was Peoples Most Eligible bachelor, being caught on the beach with a pro as the first chick he was seen with in the media would be pretty scandalous. Maybe I should rephrase, not so much would people care, but it would be a scandal that I think he wanted to AVOID.

I’m just saying that I think he was covering his arse and went above and beyond to do it. I also see the anchors motivation loud and clear. I don’t think he wanted it to be a news anchor per say, but that’s who looked like her.

Anyway, my point is that I think this story has legs and people should take into consideration that as convaluted as it might seem, it might all be true. Also didn’t the anchor have a boyfriend or something? Because that would make even more sense now.

wooo hoooo — Taylor’s come outta his shell! ’bout time.

as if I believe he needed to pay escort. :rolleyes_wp:

Although, the article was listed on AOL’s home page entertainment section today.

Men pay escorts to go away and keep their mouths shut.

I dontà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ know Kirsten, I think based on the image that Taylor Hicks has attempted to project

What image was that? A down on his luck bar singer who had previously been arrested for drug posession? A dude who smokes, drinks and cusses in songs. Yes, I can see why seeing a callgirl would be so out of character for that image. Somebody might think he actually had money to pay her.

I also see the anchors motivation loud and clear.

Yes, I agree whole heartedly. Goodness knows that no woman would ever become a journalist because she is serious about the profession. They are all in it just so that they can get their pictures on TV. So, why not fake date a has-been reality show winner who can’t even get a famewhore to put out for free? You know that your reward will be that people in internet message boards can say rude things about you. What’s not to like about that? It’s like all those woman doctors. They just go into the profession so that they can meet rich patients. I’m just an engineer so I can pick up hot nerds who wear pocket protectors.

You know though, I think that you are missing a critical point of the plot. The theory is actually reversed. Watch, all the pieces will fall into line like a perfect game of Tetrus. What actually happened is that Taylor hired the journalist fake-girlfriend first. Then, he paid escorts all over the country to have plastic surgery so that they would look almost identical to the journalist. All those sightings around the country? Different call girls.

Now, all you have to do is get the investigators to track down the surgical records (you can bribe the nurses to give them to you by telling them that they will get their names in the paper…all women are famewhores so they will jump at the chance) and this theory will be proven to even the most doubting Thomases out there.

You’re welcome. Please don’t forget to spell my name correctly in the movie credits.

People make up stories about stars quite often for their own amusement. A poster somewhere else was laughing about sending a fake story to Perez. Even posted the e-mails they sent back and forth. Perez posted the story. In a few days it was on some of the entertainment shows. Anyone wondered why David Spade and Jennifer Anniston were reportedly seen walking together recently? Oddly, there were no pictures of it.

I also donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe that some random blogger would just make this stuff up.

I know I always believe everything I read on the Internet, especially from tabloidy publications with very little credibility. And this Lois Gibson seems like a nice enough and talented person, but if you Google her, you’ll see that this isn’t exactly the first conspiracy theory she’s attached her name to. (I’m not passing judgment on her skills, as she’s apparently very successful in the law enforcement community.)

I’m not “somebody” within the Taylor fan community (nor, honestly, do I really care to be; most who know me know that I stay far away from fansites), but — and for what it’s worth, I have no first hand knowledge of this, nor do I know names or care to know names — I have been told that the original blog that started this whole thing was created by an obsessed fan who thought that they were “in” Taylor’s inner circle and had it later made clear to them that they were “out.” (And just so there’s no confusion, in NO way am I referring to Gray Charles). Knowing that there are obsessed fans out there, to me that scenario certainly makes more sense than Taylor Hicks hiring an escort to frolic with him in a public place, then, instead of passing it off as a one-night stand or a girlfriend who he’d quietly kept under wraps, scrambled to hire a lookalike fake girlfriend.

As for the story having “legs,” I think most of us remember how the story about Taylor “dissing” AI had “legs”, too — and how many, many news outlets reported that story incorrectly.

LOL, after googling Lois Gibson (thanks Kat) I’m going with the fame whore forensic artist conspiracy theory!

Hmm. I just skimmed the info on this.

Did the news reporter claim to be in Hawaii with Taylor? Maybe he just happens to like blonde’s with short hair?

Did the news reporter claim to be in Hawaii with Taylor?

Yes, but Taylor hasn’t claimed to be in a Hawaii either. Are we sure that he didn’t hire a look alike call-boy to frolic with a look alike call-girl in Hawaii just so that he could get his name in the paper? Do we have any investigators on this?

Maybe he just happens to like blondeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s with short hair?

What? PJ, woman, when did you become an obsessed Taylor fan? Stop doubting what is right before your eyes. Get a grip. Nobody has types. Why go with the simple explanation when you can go with the convoluted, unreasonable, illogical, complex explanation? Have you no imagination?

BTW It’s been a half hour since I posted my plastic surgery theory. I’m quite disappointed that nobody has turned up any medical records yet. I don’t think that people are as committed to my theory as they should be.

:lol_tb:

So does that mean the other members of the guy season 5 who are single are going to cover up too? Thier is an angle for all of them. this is soo low it is amazing even being disscussed.

What? PJ, woman, when did you become an obsessed Taylor fan? Stop doubting what is right before your eyes. Get a grip. Nobody has types.

*blushes* Okay, I’m canceling my cut and dye job. I’m going to look into parking cars, though. Sounds like there’s a lot of money to be had!

How can a story have legs when it’s so absurd? I’m sure most of Taylor’s fans could care less about him being seen with a bimbo and many might prefer him having a one night stand type to a serious girlfriend. Anyway, who cares what they think? Hopefully, not Taylor. Elliott’s gf poses half nude in Maxim on a regular basis and I don’t hear a peep about it from his rather conservative fanbase.

So does that mean the other members of the guy season 5 who are single are going to cover up too?

LOL, you must have missed the tabloid stories during Idol that Ace’s brother Ryan was sneaking into his room to sleep so that Ace could be with his secret girlfriend, Essence Atkins. Later Ace did admit that he had dated Essence, but he was not sneaking out and Ryan wasn’t impersonating him.

But who knows? Maybe it’s true! Maybe the guards couldn’t tell that Ryan had abot 5 inches or more on Ace?

ETA: One other thing. News reporters have visible jobs. It would be easy enough to confirm if she was on the air when she was supposedly in Hawaii with Taylor, but no one has picked up on that angle. I have to suspect they would have if it were true.

ETA: One other thing. News reporters have visible jobs. It would be easy enough to confirm if she was on the air when she was supposedly in Hawaii with Taylor, but no one has picked up on that angle. I have to suspect they would have if it were true.

Oh, come on PJ. Use your brain. If he can get one fake look-alike. He can get two. Her double was on the TV. Oh, wait, wrong theory. Tough to keep these things straight, she isn’t supposed to be on the air in order for this one to work, but she can’t be in Hawaii. OOo! Of course, he paid her to call in sick that day and she stayed home, ate bonbons and made crank calls to people asking them if they had Prince Albert in a can.

Quick, somebody check her phone records and the police reports to see if there was a rash of crank calls that day!

God, I heart you, Kirsten!! :clap_tb: :clap_tb:

My only comment on the Taylor conspiracy theory is that to find two women that look exactly alike is about as likly to happen as buyin the winning lottery ticket. Oh, there was a fansite that did allow this to be dicussed and it went on forever. I did post on that site that the whole height thing wasn’t very logical as every picture they( the crazy site) used where the girl appeard tall next to Taylor you never saw their feet. If you looked at the pictures on the beach where they are laying down you can see the bottom of her feet end at the middle of his lower leg and she had a small frame. My theory from that and what my two eyes tell me is that she’s short and he’s tall. They also tell me that it Taylor and CL. Maybe I did make more than one comment. I quess this thing got legs because it is so way out there. I’ve got some land in Arizona and some time shares I’d like to show some folks as there seem to be lots of gullible folks out there.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve got some land in Arizona and some time shares Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d like to show some folks as there seem to be lots of gullible folks out there.

Oh, don’t waste the stuff on us. Save it for the Idols. Clearly, the male Idols need a more out of the way place to bring their call-girls. Are these time shares discrete? Oh, never mind, just tell them they are. Clearly, these male Idol morons will fall for any scheme. Some would just not go out on a public beach with a call girl when it would be a HORRIBLE blow to their carefully crafted image and the family show which made them famous, but not these brainiacs. They would much rather get caught and hire a fake girl friend instead. They’ll fall those time share speils without batting an eye.

So, send the details to Uncle Nigel. I’m sure that he will pass it on to all the contestants. It’s his family show after all.

But who knows? Maybe ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s true! Maybe the guards couldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t tell that Ryan had abot 5 inches or more on Ace?

I just felt compelled to highlight this. Please dont judge me.

LOL, Lu!

Re: Taylor. Has anyone considered that the woman in question was a news reporter by day and call-girl by night? Seriously, the call-girl thing was part of an investigative piece on celebrities who use such services. Unfortunately, she fell for her “client” and that’s why she parted ways with her local station. She didn’t deliver the story.

Ah I’m bored watching local election returns…

What fun this is, lol. I mean truthfully if this girl was a working girl, and I have no problem with pros I mean a girl has to eat, and put herself through law school. But is she were indeed a hooker, I mean all he would have to do is say I did not know. Not hire a journalist to pretend to be a doppleganger. This is ridiculous. Now I am going to google this Lois person. Damn being a fan is hard work.

People create and become obsessed with conspiracy theories all the time. No rational motive needed.

Yep, and they are called Schizophrenics. Has anyone seen this forensic scientist? Perhaps she is just a shadowy figment of the bloggers illness. I find that person is a working scientist AND a Taylor fan highly suspect since it is a well known fact that all Taylor’s fans are retired. I am still holding on to my survival of the fittest theory. I say rip all the celebs apart and see who is left standing – that’ll be my American Idol *heh*

Anyway, forensic image comparison is still very much an artform and not pure science. Distances between fixed anatomical points in the face, which are needed for an objective, anthropometric comparison, vary strongly according to the position and orientation of the camera. There has been some cool 3D rendering programs that help with the success rate but I can’t believe they pulled out this type of technology to see if American Idol is doin a ho. Shit, I think I just got pulled into this loon’s world – hope I can get some of that Haldol to make the trip worth it.

But who knows? Maybe ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s true! Maybe the guards couldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t tell that Ryan had abot 5 inches or more on Ace?

I just felt compelled to highlight this. Please dont judge me.

LOL, Lu! I swear I was thinking the same thing you were! Is it a function of our, err, both being E fans? :lol_tb: Yes, peeps, please do not judge E fans by this…

The newscaster/fake girlfriend has attended several concerts around the country.

And out of the country. CL was in Manila with Taylor. True, I never saw her myself during the shows, but there were photos of her (and them) with Filipino fans. Unless those photos were also fake? Or, maybe, that woman in the photos (and that some people I know claimed they saw with Taylor here) was the original, or some other, look-alike escort Taylor hired specifically for Asia. Dang! This is all so complicated it’s giving me a headache (or maybe I’ve just been laughing too hard and bumping my head against the floor while rolling thereon).

LOL at the Ace/Ryan comment, Lu.

How terrific to wake up, sign on and to find all of this! Thank you all for a most enjoyable cup of coffee this morning…..although my computer doesn’t appreciate the spit takes! :lol_tb: