American Idol 12813 - Kellie Pickler, Carly Rose, Scotty McCreery

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Kris Allen tweets, “Headed to the doctor today to check how this wrist of mine is doin. Resiliency + Stubbornness + Fight = Full Recovery.”

Carly Rose Sonenclar of ‘X Factor’ fame sparkles at Mamaroneck parade – Carly Rose Sonenclar, runner-up on season two of the singing competition TV show “The X Factor,” was honored by her hometown, Mamaroneck, with a parade Sunday. Starting at 2:45 p.m. on Jefferson Avenue, the 13-year-old was escorted down Mamaroneck Avenue in a black convertible alongside Mamaroneck Mayor Norman Rosenblum. The parade, which attracted hundreds of fans and supporters, lasted for about 45 minutes, with the Saints Brigade Drum and Bugle Corps of Port Chester among the organizations taking part in the festivities. – Read more at Newsday.com

Craig Campbell: ‘Outta My Head’ Was Sent to Him By Mistake – “Outta My Head” almost was recorded by another artist, Campbell says. “When we were getting ready to cut the new album, we put the word out that we were looking for hit songs, and this one made its’ way to my email. But, it actually was sent to me by mistake. It was on hold by Scotty McCreery, but we ‘sweet-talked’ him into letting us have it. We went in, recorded it, and got it out as fast as we could.” – Read more at Billboard

Kellie Pickler Hosts Dog-gone Good Time – Kellie Pickler, animal lover supreme, was right in her element when she hosted the fundraiser Unleashed: Dinner With Your Dog Saturday night (Jan. 26) at the Hutton Hotel in Nashville. The event featured a fashion show for dogs who are eligible for adoption wearing clothing and other apparel from local designers who created “canine couture” pieces for the dogs.
Celebrity walkers, including singer Danielle Peck, presented the pooches on the runway. Guests attending the event paid a special fee to have dinner with their own dogs in an elegant formal setting. The Pedigree dog food company set out a “buffet” for the four-legged diners. – Read more at Country Weekly

Keith Urban Seeks a “Raw Diamond” on American Idol – From the judge’s table, Keith Urban is looking for someone special on American Idol — even if that aspiring artist needs a little bit of polishing. On location in Los Angeles, Urban told CMT Hot 20 Countdown he’ll be focusing on the long-term potential of this season’s finalists. Asked about seeing talent develop in real time, Urban replied, “That’s part of what Idol is really good at. Watching that happen across the season is one of the things I’ve always loved about Idol. You watch this ‘raw diamond’ talent start to really figure it all out. Confidence is one of the greatest things for an artist’s evolution.” – Read more at CMT

Idology: Diva Contestant Deluge on Idol! Plus: Nicki Vs. Mariah — Who Was Right? (Not Randy!)

Read more at TV Line

Olly Murs Is Buddies with One Direction’s Niall Horan – Olly Murs may be trying to make it in America but he’s already won over a member of One Direction! When asked which member of 1D the singer, who opened for the UK band on tour last year, is closest to, Olly responded: ”Probably say me and Niall [Horan].” Adding: “Niall used to come to sound check and one day I actually came to sound check and he was singing and I said, ‘Oh, thanks now I’ve just lost my job.’ No it was great touring, and all the guys are great.” – Read more at Ryan Seacrest.com

Glee’s Mark Salling Talks Battery Lawsuit on SAG Awards Red Carpet: “I Just Want the Chance to Defend Myself” – “You hear about fraudulent lawsuits all the time,” Salling said. “Until it happens to you, you really don’t grasp what it does, not to just you, but to your family, and you want the legal process to happen as fast as possible, but just…It takes time. I just want the chance to defend myself—and I will, vigorously.” “It’s the first time for me,” he added, when Mathews asked what it’s like to all of a sudden be called upon to defend himself in that manner. “You kind of have to learn as you go, but like with anything else, you have to stay positive and count on the people that actually do know you and love you, and that you love, as well. – Read more at EOnline

 
  • Nadine_Bitch

    American idol live in China

    Adam Lambert will be the first American Idol star to hold a solo concert in China, making his debut at Shanghai’s Mercedes-Benz Arena on March 3.
    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sunday/2013-01/27/content_16177890.htm

    Liam’s McEwan’s 3-hour Adam Lambert Birthday Special
    https://soundcloud.com/galechester/3-hour-birthday-special-liam

  • windmills

    I was rechecking this old Idols Gone Country post from August 2011 and it confirms that 2 of the new songs CaseyJ’s been playing: That Girl and Run Away, are songs he wrote for his debut album. As I’d already mentioned That Girl is cowritten by CaseyJ, Patrick Davis, and Dallas Davidson (the team that wrote So Sweet on CaseyJ’s debut). Run Away is cowritten by CaseyJ, Patrick Davis, and Rhett Akins.

    There’s a possibility A Woman’s Touch is a song written by Brice Long and Terry McBride, who cowrote Let’s Don’t Call It A Night and Love The Way You Miss Me with CaseyJ. Brice Long and Terry McBride wrote a song with that title a few years ago and it fits the vibe of the songs they cowrote with CaseyJ. If it’s the same song then it’s possible CaseyJ changed up the song some from its original version. 

  • http://twitter.com/LexieONeill Lexie O’Neill

    Windmills, I asked on the other thread and didn’t know if you saw…I was just curious…how do artists “sweet-talk” other artists out of a song?  Another poster answered that favors might be exchanged…or do they simply ask and the artist with the song on hold says yea or nay?  I mean, what kinds of negotiation might take place?  Thanks in advance…

  • http://twitter.com/LexieONeill Lexie O’Neill
  • marilaf

    Woman’s
    Touch was written by Jayce Hein, Kim Tribble, Steve Pasch. Found this information in a post on
    twitter last week.

    @ThomasTillman posted a link to Woman’s Touch at Billy
    Bobs and this comment:

    “Thanks for singing it Casey. You did awesome.
    Thanks to my co writers jayce hein, Kim Tribble, Steve Pasch “Jayce Hein is also on twitter and posted that he co-wrote the song.Great song and CJ performs it so well.  Very powerful performance !

  • girlygirltoo

    Fingers crossed for a good update!

    krisallen
    #Headed to the doctor today to check how this wrist of mine is doin.

    krisallen
    #Resiliency + Stubbornness + Fight = Full Recovery

  • Axxxel

    About the singing docter…In Indonesia, there is Tompi (Teuku Adi Fitrian) from Aceh, he is plastic surgeon and jazz singer

    Here is an english written article about  docters in the indonesian entertainment world. http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/lifeandtimes/the-indonesian-doctors-who-dazzle/448461?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=jgnewsletter#Scene_1

  • windmills

    Thanks for the info on the writers of A Woman’s Touch! Whoever connected CaseyJ to that song did a smart thing, the song is an ace fit for him.

    Lexie O’Neill: Windmills, I asked on the other thread and didn’t know if you saw…I was just curious…how do artists “sweet-talk” other artists out of a song?  Another poster answered that favors might be exchanged…or do they simply ask and the artist with the song on hold says yea or nay?  I mean, what kinds of negotiation might take place?  Thanks in advance…

    I don’t think there’s a set formula for what happens. It depends on the kind of hold that the original act negotiated. As in, is it a strict hold where the publisher can’t pitch the song to anybody else, or is it the kind of hold where if somebody else expresses interest in the song, the publisher just has an obligation to get permission from the act who placed the original hold? I’d guess in this case Scotty had something closer to the second kind of hold. I don’t think it’s too likely Craig Campbell would be able to do anything for Scotty, but maybe this could lead to the publishing companies involved giving Scotty a higher priority if there’s a song he wants from them.

  • bridgette12

    That’s a nice article in the ChinaDaily about Adam. I can’t wait to see him make him debut there and see what kind of reception he will get. 

  • rayni

    I love Slezak and Melinda Doolittle’s Idology SO MUCH!!!  Even though I’m not even watching this season, I want an entire tv show of them just reviewing stuff.  I don’t even care what it is.

  • http://www.facebook.com/djafans Fan Dja

    David Archuleta has something in the works!  Tweets from songwriter/producer and tour manager.  Can’t wait to hear the news :)

    Victoria Horn??????? ?@LadyVmusic
    ooo i know for sure some of you on here would be loving to come to my lunch meeting to hear which artists new record i’m discussing!! :)

    Victoria Horn??????? ?@LadyVmusic
    lets just say this about today.. some of my tweeter fam are going to freak out soon when they hear the news… :)

    Victoria Horn??????? ?@LadyVmusic
    I do believe its archie news sometime today! :)

    Victoria Horn??????? ?@LadyVmusic
    haha i love all your messages & lets be honest it is exciting news! (i might just already know what it is!) just waiting for the official ok

    Victoria Horn??????? ?@LadyVmusic
    @jmlittman the other stuff is about an extremely fab artist & his team r about to announce some news as he’s done something for his fans! :)

    Victoria Horn??????? ?@LadyVmusic
    if you guys read the official before they mail me, plz tweet me!!

    Victoria Horn??????? ?@LadyVmusic
    trust me i do know how excited you all are, cos when i first found out- i was like this is amazing!!!

    Victoria Horn??????? ?@LadyVmusic
    right now 1million 300k @DavidArchie fans should be getting very excited!!!!

    Kari Sellards ?@kariontourIt’s going to be a crazy but good last week of January 2013!! Who’s ready for it?

  • Montavilla

    About the singing docter…In Indonesia, there is Tompi (Teuku Adi Fitrian) from Aceh, he is plastic surgeon and jazz singer

    When I go to my doctor appointments, there’s always some poster up for a local rock group composed entirely of cancers specialists.  It’s called N.E.D. (No Evidence of Disease), and they perform to raise money and awareness about cancer.  

  • Incipit

    I love Slezak and Melinda Doolittle’s Idology SO MUCH!!!  

    Although these have always been amusing, I thought the editorial film snippets were especially good this week, rayni.  Some Literal LOLs. I had to watch it again to catch all the references – but the first ones re Randy  - – were priceless!

    I’m not watching the shows til the voting rounds, so some of the references will escape me, and I don’t always agree with what they say anyway, but I enjoy the heck out of the ‘way’ they say it – so I would probably watch a show of them reviewing random ‘stuff’ too. Heh.

    JMO.

  • girlygirltoo

    He has more than one year left on his mission, doesn’t he? 

  • girlygirltoo

    A few tour dates for Crystal:

    http://crystalbowersox.com/tourdates.cfm

  • http://twitter.com/LexieONeill Lexie O’Neill

    Thanks, that’s just the kind of info. I was interested in…:)

  • heartly

    Kelly’s been doing a DR radio push the last few weeks and a major one on Friday and today so that means a bunch of new interviews.  Lots of the same questions asked in many of them and of course DR/Vince Gill talk.  Several of them asked about the Bill Clinton “photobomb” and a little Beyonce.  Regarding Beyonce, Kelly said she had no clue until Tuesday night that it wasn’t live and she couldn’t tell on Monday from where she was but understood why she did it. 

    Here are some of today’s interviews.

    The two bigger new pieces of info came out of the KFRG one. They have another country song waiting in the wings to be released that’s “a little different, it’s still soulful. it’s fun.”  Going off other comments she’s made my guess is it’ll still be an older country sound but more upbeat. And the other thing is the wedding’s going to be in the fall, trying for something outdoors. Sounds like it’s going to be a bit bigger deal than either of them want or intend for it to be. Blake’s for sure going to be playing at it.  Based on that, if I were to make a guess, it’d guess it’ll be in October when he’s off the road.  Once Kelly’s tour dates come out it should be easier to figure out.

    This one with the K102 Morning Crew is a cute one. She gushes about several artists (Kacey Musgraves*, Trisha Yearwood and Little Big Town) and when the dj brings up LBT and suggests she get them to play at the wedding, Kelly flips at that idea and says she’s totally going to ask them.  haha 

    She was also on Crook & Chase over the weekend and talked about the engagement, how he proposed and Lorianne basically called Kelly a hot mess.  Charlie joked that Brandon thought he had his hands full with Blake, wait till he gets Kelly to which she said Blake is way worse.  LOL

    http://youtu.be/j-jgzyCTcTc

    *The various connections between people in the entertainment industry always fascinate me. The Kacey/Kelly one is no exception. One of Kelly’s great friends is Ashley Arrison (singer, songwriter, awesome person) and they met during the recording process of Kelly’s Breakaway album, more specifically the David Hodges/Ben Moody sessions. They stayed friends and Ashley started dating Kelly’s guitarist, Aben, after Kelly had lifted him from the Graham Colton Band when they were done touring. Ashley’s now married to Aben and has just recently taken on the role of personal assistant for Kelly. One of Ashley’s bff’s is Shane McAnally (songwriter all over the charts) which then leads to Kacey. Shane and Kacey are super connected and Ashley’s done quite a bit of work with both of them, along with being good friends with each.  SO naturally Kelly and Kacey are bff’s, right?! joking.  There’s another angle to play here too and that would be the Kacey-Miranda-Kelly one but that one isn’t as fun. 

  • Lucie Laniel

    Just hope that Scotty doesn’t miss any kind of opportunities for great songs on his Sophomore album. Although who can read the future? Crossing fingers.

  • ADRIANAARG1980

     Perez Hilton
    ?@PerezHilton

    I want to hear YOUR best covers of American Idol winner Phillip Phillips’ new single “Gone Gone Gone!” http://perez.ly/X8PMtZ

    Universal Music France – PHILLIP PHILLIPS – TEASER: http://youtu.be/Gu2EgYKlmIs  vía @youtube

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    Watching that Idolatry segment reminded me of something I wanted to bring up. When the judges (minus Nicki) were trying to pigeonhole the contestants — or get the contestants to pigeonhole themselves — I kept thinking, isn’t this what Idol of the Interscope/Iovine Era has double downed on? When they partnered with Idol, didn’t the word go out that they weren’t going to force contestants to go out of their comfort zone. As such, we get winners like Scotty and Phillip (let alone some of the other contestants) who didn’t really stretch themselves, delivering — essentially — the same kind of performance every week. They did what they do and nobody (on the show) complained and, if they did, the contestants were “allowed” to dig in their heels without repercussions. It’s not like the old days where you had to jump through all kinds of musical genre hoops, trying desperately to make it your own somehow. And even then, people wanted to see you step out of your box and you got praised for doing so … if you delivered. So, in that regard, these days on Idol you *do* have to know what kind of singer you are — or they’re going to decide it for you because you are already at the A&R stage when you’re working week in and week out with Iovine and his selected producers during the season. 

  • http://twitter.com/starfishy2000 DD

    Happy 10th anniversary to Clay Aiken! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TzVfZzeTrU

  • Incipit

    isn’t this what Idol of the Interscope/Iovine Era has double downed on? When they partnered with Idol, didn’t the word go out that they weren’t going to force contestants to go out of their comfort zone. As such, we get winners like Scotty and Phillip (let alone some of the other contestants) who didn’t really stretch themselves, delivering — essentially — the same kind of performance every week. They did what they do and nobody (on the show) complained and, if they did, the contestants were “allowed” to dig in their heels without repercussions. It’s not like the old days …

    Yes, exactly, Sassycatz. Nigel said it in the beginning of Season 10, IIRC, and WNTS and The Idol Guy have a whole joint study, where they discuss the differences they have observed between the eras, especially the last two..Seasons 7,8,9 — and Seasons 10,11,12.”

    Hard to stay in your niche if you haven’t picked one – and Iovine will choose for you if you don’t…it makes his song selecting job so much easier, if he’s not expected to bring the unexpected, so to speak. 

    Of course, that’s precisely what made Seasons 7,8,9 interesting (some more than others) and contributed to my disinterest in 10,11, and maybe, 12. When they lost the WTF element, they pretty much lost me too. People who tried to bring it (like Elise) got told they don’t know what kind of singer they are…because, for this Era, that’s what matters.

    I wonder what happens next?

  • windmills

    heartly: The two bigger new pieces of info came out of the KFRG one. They have another country song waiting in the wings to be released that’s “a little different, it’s still soulful. it’s fun.”  Going off other comments she’s made my guess is it’ll still be an older country sound but more upbeat. 

    Yay for Kelly sticking with soulful songs, and even more yay that we’ve got another new song to look forward to. I think that’s a smart way to distinguish herself from most of the other females at country radio. Kristen Kelly’s really the only other female who’s pushing the soulful sound right now since Jennifer Nettles hasn’t released anything in a while. It’s what I’ve been thinking Lauren should do too because her voice is very naturally suited for country/soul too. 

    I LOLed at the Crook & Chase interview part where Kelly had to tell them about Blake being more of a handful for Brandon than she is. This interview clearly took place before Blake’s old farts & jackasses mess because C&C would never have compared Kelly & Blake after that!

  • Pippygirl

    Season 7 and 8 were interesting to me because they had contestants who could make any genre work for them. Season 9 failed because they had contestants who were not successful in doing that (among other reasons).
    I wonder if one of the reasons the ratings are down is that those watercooler moments are gone. Seems just as logical as assuming it’s because the same type of winner keeps winning. ;)

  • Lobilobi

    wow so happy that Phillip and Home are going to France, the single is now available, so cool
    btw i like the ad, very Phillip Phillips

  • hellomusicgirl

    He has more than one year left on his mission, doesn’t he? 

    ETA: that tour manager tweeted out tour dates for Crystal. Are Archie & Crystal managed by the same person?

    Yes, today is 10 months since David left so approx 14 months left on the mission. They have put A LOT together before he headed out. I’m not sure what this surprise is but I think they’re trying to kill us with anticipation lol.

    Kari Sellards (who is the “KS” that sends out tweets for David) is a tour manager and also seems to have taken on some other management tasks for David. She is working in conjunction with Gina Orr as well, who has both David and Crystal listed on her website as clients. Gina was included in the credits on David’s last album.

  • ptebwwong

    It’s true the Interscope era didn’t stretch contestants outside their comfort zones. So there’s less surprising performances. Also, the contestants that didn’t know what type of artist were “guided” much more during the show by Jimmy & Interscope.

    However, there is another way to look at it. The contestants that knew who they were as artists (Ex.Scotty, Phillip, James Durbin, etc.) stayed in their genre during Idol & as a result had loyal fanbases. Usually those contestants (even in the earlier Idol seasons) had better success in the music industry post-Idol. People knew James would be in the rock genre & that Scotty was going to be in the country genre. 

    I like the “out of their comfort zone performances” on Idol that have been missing the previous 2 seasons. I’m just saying I think one of the reasons why Scotty & Phillip did well on Idol & afterwards was due to attracting a genre fanbase, sticking with that genre during the show & post-Idol, & keeping their fanbase.

  • Lobilobi

    Kelly and Phillip take Idol to 374 total n°1 hits
    http://www.americanidol.com/news/kelly-and-phillip-take-idol-to-374-total-no-1-hits
    congrats to all of them

  • tripp_ncwy

    Kris Allen @KrisAllen
    Doc said everything looks good. Gonna take some time but
    ill get back. Until then back out on the road. Headed to Tulsa tomorrow to The
    Vanguard. #OutAliveTour

  • Pippygirl

    The successful contestants from S 7and 8 were forced to be versatile, that does not mean they didn’t know who they were as artists. I agree that one reason Scotty and PP etc have had success is that they were able to stick to being themselves.
    However (and this is a big however) I think it has made the show less interesting to many viewers. People like to say that Idol only cares about the show, not so much about how the contestants do after the show, but Jimmy and Co obviously do care. So by letting them decide these things, is Idol hurting the show’s long term viability?

  • iani

    Absolutely true, I agree with your thoughts. The contestants are there on stage not only for our entertainment and admiration, they are there also preparing their future and selecting their fan-bases. The “out of their comfort zone performances”are great for the show itself, navigating throughout the genres and showing your versatile styles has two cutting edges, some fans/viewers admire you, some get more confused and get out of your fan-base  when the albums are out.

  • girlygirltoo

    Good news!

  • ptebwwong

    S7 & 8 wasn’t the only seasons forced to be versatile. S6 contestants had to sing Latin, Country, British Invasion, Bon Jovi, etc. S9 contestants had to sing R&B, The Rolling Stones, Elvis, Shania, Sinatra, etc. IMO S7 & 8 were more versatile in themes than most seasons. But most of the Idol seasons were versatile in themes.

    I agree that it is less interesting to not have surprise performances. I’m just saying it’s a double-edged sword for Idol. People could watch less due to less entertainment or contestants could be successful be being less versatile, but have successful careers.

    IMO what Idol should do is to go back to the theme night of the first few seasons. The themes weren’t general & contestants needed to be versatile. The specific themes were basically every other week. So the general theme weeks can still give viewers an idea of the type of artist contestants are usually. For example, Carrie in her season still had to do themes like Broadway & dance music, but you knew she was a country artist because she sang country music on the general theme weeks. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Love Idology! Melinda and Michael discuss Charlie Askew at the end of this week’s episode. Michael wants to take his golden ticket back and Melinda completely disagrees with him.

    Lol at Melinda and her statement about the black girls the past few seasons: “there goes one walking across the stage in the background, I wonder what she sounded like”. So true.

  • http://www.facebook.com/djafans Fan Dja

    Yes, 1 year 2 months left on his mission.  

    Both Archie and Crystal are managed by Gina Orr and Kariontour tweeted the tour dates for Crystal.  I’m happy for Crystal.  I think Gina Orr is a good fit for both of them.

  • Incipit

    Well, yes, people knew that the country singers were going to put out country albums, and the rockers were going to rock, etc. etc. It was not difficult, they said so, when asked “What sort of album are you going to make?” And there were success stories before, from people who could NOT stick to one genre every week, and brought a fan base with them from the show. I think those choices between the two eras are a false dichotomy.  

    The difference then was, the more successful contestants could take on the theme week, chose a song out of their comfort zone, and arrange or adapt it to fit their own style. And we got Water Cooler Moments from those. 

    I don’t think it’s a co-incidence that the alumni who could do that were also not “only 16″, or just out of High School, and they not only had some life experience to draw from, but performing experience as well…more than a year or two at most.

    Lately, the cast doesn’t have to do that; I don’t actually think most of them could, because people with experience are not being chosen much – - and it shows in the songs they can sing, or are given to sing – when the rearrangement or adaptation is no longer necessary, and there is a smaller number of Water Cooler Moments during the season as a result.  But they can still do well, if they stay in their box.

    ETA: I’ll buy Jimmy caring to a somewhat higher degree than Sony about the future of cast members he signs, IF he likes them, and they look to be successful…but I see no difference between Interscope and Sony when it comes to the rest, or examples of this happening.  JMO.

  • http://www.facebook.com/djafans Fan Dja

    That must’ve been scary for Kris.  Injuring your hand for a musician not good.  But I have to tell you that not being a Kris fan I have enjoyed his performances minus guitar :)

  • MissMyEm

    I’m so glad Kris’ wrist seems to be doing okay.  It’s just a matter of time.  Kris is very determined.

    Congrats to Clay on his 10th Anniversary.

  • irockhard

    Well James, Casey A. and Naima entertained me every week they were on.

    Radio is far less versatile today than it was in the earlier years of Idol and I’m willing to bet that Jimmy & Co. (who are more forward thinking than RCA’s A&R) remind the contestants of this. We need to try to see it from their (the contestants’) perspective. The primary reason they’re on the show is because they want a music career not because they want to entertain a TV audience.

    Yes there’ve been less “moments” but there doesn’t have to be, the new concept just hasn’t been executed very well yet IMO. To make the new format result in more entertaining/versatile performances Idol needs to:

    1. Take a page from The Voice by casting a much more diverse cast of contests – even if they have to resort to casting a few plants. Every radio format should be represented.

    2. Encourage the contestants to be versatile within their genres by incorporating elements of other genres (via the theme weeks) into their performances. Not only will the contestants be able to do different stuff every week (without confusing anyone who they are as artists), but they will show their target markets what they can bring to the table and Jimmy & Co. will be able to see who has the most potential for crossover.

  • mjsbigblog

    Well then, the question is: Does the show want versatile contestants who can provide water cooler moments during the run of the show, or a season that provides a built in A&R process that increases the chance that Idol will produce alums who can sell records. 

    I would think the show producers would care more about the former, and the ratings and attention water cooler moments bring. But maybe not.At least, In a very competitive crowd of singing shows, Idol can continue to brag about graduating success stories.

  • tripp_ncwy

    New Kris show;  Fri, 04/19/13  The Maintenance Shop Ames, IA  (Campus of Iowa State University)

  • ptebwwong

    I agree that the past few seasons has had very inexperienced contestants. This also makes it easier for Jimmy/Interscope to “influence them.” 

    However, it depends what you hope Idol achieves. Do you want an entertaining tv show, a successful winner/contestants post-Idol, or both? I think most people would say they want both. But the sad truth is the music industry likes their talent to start young like Justin Beiber, Taylor Swift, Britney, etc. Also, I think most of them weren’t experienced in performing. They developed as their careers progressed. That means record labels & probably Idol wants to find young new artists because it’s what the music industry wants & what has usually been successful.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Are you ready for VEISHEA 2013′s Cyclone Idol?

    WHAT? This year’s Host is Lee DeWyze!
    WHEN? Thursday, April 18, 8pm
    WHERE? Great Hall, MU
    https://www.veishea.iastate.edu/index.cfm?nodeID=17888&audienceID=1

  • irockhard

    The difference then was, the more successful contestants could take on the theme week, chose a song out of their comfort zone, and arrange or adapt it to fit their own style. And we got Water Cooler Moments from those.

    But to quote MJ:

    Even Phillip Phillips, who was saved for the pimp spot didn’t knock me out.  If  it were still Season 5 or Season 6 he would have seemed revolutionary. But a boy with a guitar changing up pop songs? Ain’t no big thang any more.

    http://www.mjsbigblog.com/american-idol-11-%E2%80%93-savannah-auditions-recap-and-videos.htm

    These tricks have gotten stale now and are no longer as entertaining as they first were, the “water cooler moments” themselves have become more predictable and less original. We need new stuff every season, every season we need to see things we’ve never seen before. JMO.

  • Karen C

    Interesting about the Epochs.  This might also have a lot to do with the judges changing, also.  I feel that with Jlo and Steven, the contestants weren’t as encouraged to take risks as much as they were in Seasons 7 -9.  Artistry was stressed by the judges the most during those seasons, and the only one that still would say this sometimes would be Randy, but Jlo would say this wasn’t important.  Though this could also be because of Jimmy Iovine mentoring too.

    I also think even in Season 9, they started to have less experienced contestants. There was an article that came out right before that season that said that they were looking for less experienced contestants so that people can see their journey, so one or two do not stand out so far that people can predict the winner too early in the season.  Starting in Season 10 it seemed that there were more young contestants than before.  And the more experienced ones weren’t encouraged.

    I think the reason that there aren’t watercooler moments is because because we had some contestants that were so experienced and so versatile in past seasons, especially 7 or 8, the less experienced and less versatile contestants  of the more current seasons fall short in comparision. Even if they do have more versatility than they are showing, this is for the most part being stripped away because of Jimmy Iovine being in control of the mentoring.

    I don’t know what’s next, but it seems they are going further away from what made seasons 7 to 9 my favorites. 

  • girlygirltoo

    good to see him doing some shows in college towns now. :)

  • girlygirltoo

    That website didn’t work for me.

    But supposedly Kris’ show on April 19 is part of this “Veisha”.

  • tripp_ncwy

    The link on Fleming was to The Maintenance Shop site so it is probably still part of the same event. Looks like the Veishea site is down.

  • blackberryharvest

    I wouldn’t say that is why the ratings are down, the ratings were already falling in Seasons 7 and 8 when those supposed “watercooler moments” happened. The highest rated seasons were the ones where you didn’t have to flip every song into a rock performance or whatever.

  • blackberryharvest

    I agree, and on the other hand we had Adam Lambert singing rock songs every week, then he makes an electro-pop album(not trying to pick on Adam, but I thought he was a good example).

  • Incipit

    Karen C, I’m really interested to see which way Idol goes from here…and if they have another three years left, what the next Era looks like. This year may have some clues.

    I don’t think the question of which? – entertaining TV show or focus on maleable young artists and hoped for music sales will ever be settled, as long as Idol itself splits the management of the show between the TV Producers and the Music Producers. The show is, and has always been, schizophrenic, with different power groups …and each entity has a different goal. It works if the tension stays pretty equal – not so much if either one predominates, IMO. But just excellent vocals combined with the rearranging and adapting “tricks” don’t impress me, the contestant has to do them exceedingly well. And that has been very scarce lately.

    The seasons with risk taking, flexibility, and boldness are my favorites, and if I had first met Idol as it is right now, instead of Season 7, I doubt I would have stayed. But there’s a Halo Effect from those seasons past, and I keep thinking it’s possible I will find another voice that captures my imagination and my interest (and my entertainment dollar), so I check it out each year, looking to find someone with a little something special going on… Sometimes, I actually do. Which makes it worth it, IMO.

  • blackberryharvest

    I wouldn’t blame Jimmy Iovine on the lack of “versatility.” If I remember correctly, I thought Jimmy would actually be impressed with the rearrangements. He doesn’t have much control over the arrangements, Michael Orland(who has been there since Season 1), is the one who takes care of a lot of the musical arrangements.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Adam did not sing rock songs every week and his first album was not electric-pop. That’s just something that Durbin said.

  • Karen C

    Radio is far less versatile today than it was in the earlier years of Idol and I’m willing to bet that Jimmy & Co. (who are more forward thinking than RCA’s A&R) remind the contestants of this.

    That’s an interesting point, especially within the past few years, radio has been very limited.  Both Scotty and Phillip weren’t as versatile as past winners, but they both did well in a genre that was current on the radio, and both had singles to reflect that.  I think especially for Phillip that is why he has been so successful post idol.

  • MellyPer1692

    Adam sang as many non-rock songs on Idol as he did rock songs. Black or White, Ring of Fire, Tracks of my Tears, Mad World, Play that Funky Music, If I Can’t Have You, One, all non rock songs. Also, FYE was not electro, it was primarily pop rock.

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    I think to some degree the “stick to your genre” thing is being overstated on both ends.

    1. As previously stated, many of the contestants on earlier seasons who went on the be successful DID NOT stick to one genre on Idol, and that includes Kelly and Jordin. Also, people like Carrie, Fanny and Daughtry absolutely made it clear who they were while also singing out of their comfort zone sometimes. So it is not like one needs to sing the same genre every week to be clear about who you are to an audience, or they one can’t have success later on if they genre-hop.

    2. There HAVE been water cooler moments in seasons 10 and 11. Haley had like 3 by herself! Scotty had Gone, Pia, Casey too… And this year Jessica has a few, as well as Phil and Josh. I don’t know if this new emphasis on “knowing yourself” has stopped someone from having a knockout performance everyone talks about the next day, or that goes viral.

    I don’t know if there is really a set formula for what makes a performance stand out or what gets you a large loyal post Idol fanbase (besides the much ballyhooed WGWG thing lately). It just had to click.

  • http://twitter.com/HappenHappen92 Happen Happen

    Adam sang as many non-rock songs on Idol as he did rock songs. Black or White, Ring of Fire, Tracks of my Tears, Mad World, Play that Funky Music, If I Can’t Have You, One, all non rock songs. Also, FYE was not electro, it was primarily pop rock.

    Believe, A Change Is Gonna Come, Feeling Good all non rock either. Actually, he sang about twice as many non-rock songs as rock ones, lol. 

  • mjsbigblog

    Reminder:

    The typical fan war with the usual suspects!

    PLEASE let’s not rehash prior seasons for the umptebilioneth time.

  • Karen C

    I wouldn’t blame Jimmy Iovine on the lack of “versatility.” If I remember correctly, I thought Jimmy would actually be impressed with the rearrangements. He doesn’t have much control over the arrangements,

    Jimmy Iovine did discourage some that had done some rearrangements, though. I remember this especially with Casey Abrahms and Elise, that they both wanted to do something that he discouraged.  In some cases they did do it anyway.

    Michael Orland was there during the years that had the most rearrangement.  It might be more Ricky Minor leaving. I remember though, that Michael Orland worked with Adam Lambert on his rearrangements. In these cases, the ideas did come from the contestants. 

  • irockhard

    I’m less impressed with the current band than Ricky’s band, for one thing they can’t really shred. This is why James had to perform YGATC to a recorded track and had to bring in Zakk Wylde for Heavy Metal. It doesn’t help the contestants when the band’s incompetent.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I really like the combination of Melinda and Michael on their Idology commentaries. Melinda made a strong case for allowing singers who aren’t quite sure of who they are as ‘artists’ on the show, and learning who they are during the process of the show. Melinda has a fun, positive, warm demeanor and is thoughtful and insightful in her commentary. Michael’s sense of humor is great in interjecting those hilarious film clips to accent what he and Melinda are saying. lol

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    If there have been/are water cooler breakout moments during the Interscope/Iovine Era, I honestly don’t know to whom to give the credit. Watching Idol over the past couple of years, I’ve seen Iovine influence the contestants in terms of songs and arrangements. Plus, he has specific producers working with them, and they appear to be much more hands on then in the past. Furthermore, I remember talk here and elsewhere before Iovine’s first year with Idol that some contestants would have a hard time saying no to him since he *was* the label they were all trying to earn a deal with, which can be intimidating. This is in direct contrast to the Sony years where the contestants never worked with the label before hand, and everyone who had an advisor role was *with the show* and would most likely not have any involvement with a contestant’s post-Idol career. Under those circumstances, I can see it being much easier to stand up to advice with which you really don’t agree and feel that it’s really up to *you* to make it to the end of the show.

    I still recall Debra Byrd and the other vocal coaches back during the Sony days saying they could not recommend songs, that they could only work with what the contestants brought to them. It was up to the contestant to ask for any special staging or arrangements. That’s not to say Ricky Minor or Michael Orland didn’t come up with something if a contestant was “clueless,” but they had to be asked and couldn’t dissuade them from a particular arrangement if they really wanted it.

  • irockhard

    Kelly and Jordin aren’t doing multiple genres at once post Idol, neither are Carrie, Fanny and Daughtry. Nailing multiple genres proves nothing other than the fact you can nail multiple genres, it does not show your target market what you can bring to the table. Being versatile within your genre by exploring other sounds in order to create your own signature sound however will – that is real talent in the real world – it’s about the music not the voice – always has been, always will be.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I liked it when the contestants had more control over their performances, from song choice, to arrangements to staging, and someone like Iovine wasn’t forcing them to sing certain songs and foisting arrangements on them. The contestants’ performances (for better or worse) were in their own hands, and depended on their own musical sensibilities and self-awareness of who they were as singers and artists. I realize that Iovine having so much input is better for him and the label (commercially), but I don’t like taking so much out of the hands of the contestants.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

     ASTRO?@AstronomicalKid
    It’s going down tomorrow! First vid off of “Deadbeats and lazy Lyrics” pic.twitter.com/lfqjwTjT

  • Karen C

    Kelly and Jordin aren’t doing multiple genres at once post Idol, neither are Carrie, Fanny and Daughtry.

    Kelly has done some other genres, because she did R&B on some of the VH1 Divas specials.  And Fantasia has done musical theater in addition to her own music. 

    Being versatile within your genre by exploring other sounds in order to create your own signature sound however will -

    On the show, though, since they can’t sing original music, is to make rearrangements that reflect this.  That is where versatility comes in, because there have been contestants that could take any type of song from any genre, and rearrange the songs to fit in with their original music.  Some of this is still being done, and I think Phillip was able to do this to some extent.

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    Kelly and Jordin aren’t doing multiple genres at once post Idol, neither are Carrie, Fanny and Daughtry.

    Nailing multiple genres proves nothing other than the fact you can
    nail multiple genres, it does not show your target market what you can
    bring to the table.

    That’s all well and good but that has nothing to do with what I was talking about LOL. All I was saying was that past contestants didn’t HAVE to stick to a genre on the show to be successful post Idol. Some were simply likeable, versatile singers who managed to amass a fanbase and launch a career post show without having super clear with a musical identity during their season. That was my only point. I never argued they keep being versatile post show.

    If there have been/are water cooler breakout moments during the
    Interscope/Iovine Era, I honestly don’t know to whom to give the credit.

    Well one can argue something like Haley & Casey’s Moanin’ was all them, they said as much after it was over. I suppose James’ forays into harder rock were him, and Colton’s stuff was his as was Phillip’s… But I’m sure there are examples of the producers/music team doing the heavy lifting too.

    I guess my point is we have had moments under both styles. I prefer the flashes of originality from a contestant myself, but I have also been blown away by a great singer singing the living snot out of the perfect song for their voice on occasion too. In other words, I don’t really know who picked/arranges Pia’s song during the semifinals (for example) but it was fantastic either way. I don’t know if there is a wide swath of the audience wondering one way or another. Maybe there is, who knows?

    And I don’t think one way or another is best for launching a career. I think you have to work whatever your strengths are. Clearly there are precidents for multiple paths for post-Idol success.

  • irockhard

    I was talking about recording music of their own, not side gigs, they don’t record multiple genres and put it up for sale.

    I’m not sure they’re arranging the music based on their original music as much as they’re arranging it to fit their vocals and preferences and the tastes of the audience to get votes. 

    Besides most of these arrangements are were not even their own but someone else’s (Chris Cornell, Kanye West, Dilana, Garry Jules, Muse, ect.)

  • Karen C

    I’m not sure they’re arranging the music based on their original music as much as they’re arranging it to fit their vocals and preferences and the tastes of the audience to get votes.

    There have been some that their arrangements very much show who they are as artists.  This was apparent to me when listening to their original music.

    Besides most of these arrangements are were not even their own but someone else’s (Chris Cornell, Kanye West, Dilana, Garry Jules, Muse, ect.)

    In all those you mentioned, there were differences between the versions mentioned and the contestants, and as much as possible for a cover,  it showed some individuality.

  • Axxxel

    Great !! it is also good for these doctors because being a cancer specialist can be sometimes very depressing !  

  • justmefornow

    Just letting you know about more confirmation of the bass player you guessed. Heidi is dropping (not so subtle) hints as well, lol.

    Justin Kastner ?@justinboodissy”It’s all happening”Heidi Durbin ?@MrsHeidiDurbin
    @justinboodissy Isn’t it though ;-)Oh, and as for the entertaining the audience vs sticking to your genre argue on Idol, you can do both. Some of the contestants just have “IT” and some don’t. It’s that simple. You know it when you see it. If you are a charismatic singer/ performer and “click” with the audience you’ll entertain them whatever you choose to sing. 

  • girlygirltoo

    Another newspaper article/interview with Kris. He’s getting some nice local publicity for this tour:

    http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2013/01/28/entertainment/allen-ready-to-tackle-new-music-fatherhood.html

  • tripp_ncwy
  • Nadine_Bitch

    Slash says he’ll never follow in Steve Tyler’s footsteps as a talent show judge

    “I actually did ‘American Idol’ for a second – I was a mentor. They talked me into it, they twisted my arm and I ended up doing it. It was because, at the time, Adam Lambert was on it and I thought he was a great singer. The first time I saw him, I went down there because a friend of mine works at the studio and checked him out. Once I went down there I was captive. It was an interesting experience but I would never do it again.”

    http://www.7daysindubai.com/Slash-says-ll-follow-Steve-Tyler-s-footsteps/story-17986290-detail/story.html

  • Anny_nanny

    I could be wrong, but the ratings began to fall during the peak of the universality of the contestants – s7-9. Yes, the show was at the top when David performed and Adam sang “Ring of Fire” on the country week, but the show still falling. S9 was the last lump of earth into the grave just. And the pendulum swung in the other direction.
    The show must find a balance between the demonstration of the universality and “who we are as artists, but I agree, maybe the problem is in the age and experience of the current contestants. On the other hand Skylar showed more flexibility than Elise for me in the last season. Scotty would be all the same, he sang the country every week.

  • Liteasy

    I think the ratings peaked during Season 5 and went steadily downhill after that.  

  • Nadine_Bitch

    @wearefamilyfdtn
    Update: Oh yes… $30,000 has been surpassed! WooHoo! Thank U!

  • nyc57

    Most people who watch the show just want to be entertained.They don’t care or know how many albums an idol sell.I had no idea how many albums David Cook sold and I would not have known that Scotty sold a lot if I didn’t read it here. The voice is doing ok and very few people know the names of the winnersI wished everyone well but forgot about the show as soon as it was over.To be honest ,the trainwrecks were just as entertaining  as the great performances.The show is missing the element of surprise.
    Of course the show is 12 years old and people are just getting bored with the formula.I think it will last a couple of more years.Really how many shows last more than that.

  • nyc57

    Kris has been great without the guitar but the biggest problem is that he is used to using his guitar to write new music and he had planned on writing in March.If he had to I’m sure he could adjust, but it will probably delay a new album.Thank God that is the only problem. 

  • Anny_nanny

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Gu2EgYKlmIs
    PHILLIP PHILLIPS – TEASER by UniversalMusicFrance

    Can someone tell me when he will be in France? I need to get a visa, I can not catch! (((

  • http://twitter.com/bilolobi Namarinad

     He said he’ll go on tour with Matchbox 20 and then go oversea so you should check when will that tour end (i think april) and then go get a visa maybe april

  • http://twitter.com/bilolobi Namarinad

     He said he’ll go on tour with Matchbox 20 and then go oversea so you should check when will that tour end (i think april) and then go get a visa maybe april

  • http://twitter.com/bilolobi Namarinad

    Phillip Phillips’ ‘Home’ wins fans over

    http://canisiusgriffin.com/2013/01/28/phillip-phillipss-home-wins-fans-over/

    http://canisiusgriffin.com/2013/01/25/phillips-concert-projected-a-success/

    so happy for Phillip and the success of his tours, i’m so proud of him
    i’m sure it’ll be going better and better

  • jpfan2

    I think P2 is only touring with MB for the month of Feb. I had no idea Idol was popular in FRANCE.. It seems like a tough market to crack. Maybe they’re partial to cute WGWG.

  • MellyPer1692

    Kelly and Adam have both done concerts in France. WWFM did pretty well there, peaking at #7 on their SNEP (Official) chart as did multiple Kelly songs.

  • Anny_nanny

    I see free March in the schedule, April and May is a date in the US.

    to jpfan2:
    What surprised me was the choice of covers, but they chose the songs and singers well-known in Europe, as I understand it.

  • justmefornow

    If you go by Season Finale numbers shown here,
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Idol
    the show did peak in Season 5, went down in 6, slightly up in 7, down again for 8 and 9, slightly up for 10, then down a lot for 11.

    Bottom line the show is 12 years old. Other than those blips for Season’s 7 and 10 the year to year ratings have been steadily going down. That isn’t going to change.

  • MellyPer1692

    Well, Season 7 was kind of an anomaly itself. It debuted during the TV writers strike which lasted until mid-February. There was no new programming to compete with.

  • http://twitter.com/LexieONeill Lexie O’Neill

    Just thought I’d share the email I got from the Opry advertising this coming weekend…pretty cool to see Carrie and Scotty (with the Band Perry) as the big draws:))

    http://image.opryemail.com/lib/fe9113707560077472/m/1/OpryHomecoming_headerdate.jpg

  • justmefornow

    That’s interesting, it could have played a factor in the ratings. 
    I’m no Idol expert, I only starting watching in Season 6. Saw Season 7, skipped 8 & 9, came back in 10 and stayed since; for now.
    What I found interesting about that rating chart is the two ratings blips matched my two favorites seasons as well, 7 & 10. 

  • Incipit

    MellyPer1692, Idol did indeed start during the Writer’s Strike that 2008 season, which is how I even came to watch it – but if the strike only lasted til mid-February, the live voting rounds of the contest were just beginning then. The opening salvos of “Hello” and “Hallelujah” were on March 4th, “Imagine” and “You’re So Vain” was the week before…the Writers Strike was over by then, yes? no?

    Bottom line the show is 12 years old. Other than those blips for Season’s 7 and 10 the year to year ratings have been steadily going down. That isn’t going to change.

    True. Also. ALL TV shows ratings are trending down – this isn’t specific to Idol, or to Reality Shows in general – there are many factors affecting how and what people watch on TV, and how it has changed over the last 12 years. To disregard those factors is disingenuous at best, and specious reasoning at worst. IMO. Of Course.

    And other than establishing a downward trend for TV ratings…what are these numbers meant to show?

  • mjsbigblog

    I think the ratings peaked during Season 5 and went steadily downhill after that.

    Season 5 was the highest rated season, overall. Idol earned it’s highest non-finale episode ratings during the Season 6 auditions, which saw viewer numbers well above 30K.  The numbers went downhill from there.

  • standtotheright

    I guess my point is we have had moments under both styles.

    I think this is true. I also think the perception that there have been fewer moments is a function of a) longstanding viewership leading to greater familiarity with the techniques people have used to perform notable performances and, conversely b) declining audience participation leading to fewer conversations about good performances the next day. And I think the production team’s stance on viralizing videos is “too little, too late.”

    There are some twists I think remain underused, but there’s only so much that new contestants can do to fight the tide of those trends, IMO.

  • seldomused

    Well, Season 7 was kind of an anomaly itself. It debuted during the TV writers strike

     
    Which is the ONLY reason I started watching Idol.  Before then I would not have gone near the show (sorry Idol lovers)…

    House MD was my favorite show and since it came on FOX on the same day as Idol, when House didn’t air we watched Idol instead.  I got hooked on Cook and then Adam, but I have not watched the show with any regularity since then. 
     I do like parts of the show, however it just drags too much for me, too much filler… 
    I found MJs and get all I need from this blog (thanks MJ). 

    Incipit – the writer’s strike may have been over in Feb or March but by then many of the new viewers (such as myself) may have found an Idol to root for; I know I did.  So we stayed to watch the competition unfold.

    I think Season 7′s bounce up in the ratings was majorly influenced by the writer’s strike. 

  • iani

    Most people who watch the show just want to be entertained.They don’t care or know how many albums an idol sell…
    To be honest ,the trainwrecks were just as entertaining  as the great performances.The show is missing the element of surprise.

    The show has lost over the years in MO the competitive spirit, that “nail biting” action/feeling that some here we were talking about a while ago. TPTB has turned it into a more entertaining one than a competitive show using mostly what was simple for them, the camera; making videos, capturing dramas, making fashion design segments to show the transformation under the viewers’ eyes, stage details captured during the 1 1/2 min. performances, segments after segments to fade away the competition meaning and enhance the visual ones. Nothing surprises now on the show, not even the new song-arrangements, the entertainment part from TPTB is getting over, anticipated and sometime awkward.

  • Incipit

    we stayed to watch the competition unfold.I think Season 7′s bounce up in the ratings was majorly influenced by the writer’s strike. 

    Well, I came to watch Idol because of the writers strike too…and I stayed because of the contestants – the show would not have held my attention for long if they hadn’t been showcasing such a talented group. It was easy for me to quit watching in subsequent years that forgot to focus on the cast – I haven’t watched a full season since. 

    Writers strike may have been the impetus, and gotten the new viewers in, the talented cast is what got them to stay when the strike was over…and kept those ratings bounced. IMO. When ever Idol PTB loses sight of the connection between the contestants and the audience as the main draw, I think their ratings reflect it.

    Of course, if Idol had decided to ‘quit while they were ahead’ – they may have pulled the plug at Season 6.  And then Seasons 7 thru 12 would be in an alternate universe, or something. Heh.

    But that depends on how one defines “ahead” – ratings, demos, audience votes, music sales, tour and merch money, advertising revenues, those numbers are sometimes very different, season to season.

    But hindsight is a wonderful thing. Or not. *snerk*

  • justmefornow

    There are no more surprises because they keep casting the same genre of singers. There has to be more “firsts” on the show to keep it fresh. The show needs to keep evolving. 

    What brought me back to Idol was James bringing metal onto the show, not only singing, but actually getting people like Zakk Wylde and Judas Priest on the show to perform. This would have been unheard of on any reality show just a few seasons earlier. Maybe for others to tune back in it will be hip hop or rap, whatever. Just something else never seen before on Idol. Not the same old, same, old.

    If the show keeps pushing R&B and country, IMO that’s not bringing in new viewers. That’s dying a slow ratings death.

  • TheOther

    The show will be going into it’s 12th season.  How many “firsts” can there be?  Would viewers be open to a winner who is a rapper, a jazz singer, someone who sings classical, opera, CCM music?  Probably not.

  • justmefornow

    I never said a winner. Just a contestant to keep it fresh and interesting to see what they would perform week to week. None of those “types” you mentioned would ever win. 
    Just like James wasn’t the “safe WGWG” type and wouldn’t win, but he brought in a of of viewers of his genre that had never watched the show before. 
    Hell, if James could get the editor of Revolver to finally watch the show, who could a talented hip hop artist bring in? 

    Idol needs to think outside of the box to keep it interesting.

  • standtotheright

    I agree that more versatile casts, presented with respect for their respective genres, help to maintain a broad viewing base.

    However, the idea that anyone’s special snowflake brings in scores and scores of new/underrepresented viewers in a season just doesn’t seem to be borne out by the ratings. Yes, it happens. But new or longtime lapsed viewers tune in every season and find someone worth following when they were only casually invested or disinterested before. In a 13-year-old show, they need to focus on a wide range of genres to keep from draining off the viewers they already have (some of whom are pop and hiphop and EDM and niche-genre-here fans), not just in the hope of pulling in new ones.

  • irockhard

    Even if they don’t win we still want to see them – that is the point. And plenty of people refuse to give the show the a chance if the show refuses to give them what they want to see.

  • irockhard

    Not just one contestant either. I commend Casey, Haley, Naima & Scotty too for also debuting new sounds on the show that hadn’t been heard prior to S10. We need “firsts” every season.

  • iani

    I agree also that casting contenders from different genres and let them keep their genres  on the show may attract or keep a broad viewer-base. But where the contenders are? What’s going on?! We get the top 12 in 2 days one for boys one for girls, where is the rest of the 12 ones? The semifinals were in fact the contenders’ connections  with the viewers, the selecting part from the people, now they have longer auditions,  sing-alongs for Hollywood, one day selection for each gender and then here we have “get your AI from this group”; where, what, ugh?! More room for filler segments. The 2 elements that has started to killed the show’s interest and take it seriously amongst other(some I’ve already mentioned) are: playing with the show format and lowering the contenders age to participate/apply for the competition, JMO.

  • justmefornow

    Exactly. Overall that was a very diverse group, something for everyone with various tastes to keep viewers interested and watching.
    Someone completely different will get media buzz outside of the bubble, which was sorely lacking last year, and may make the curious at least tune in to see them.

  • sdmama

    If Adam and Phillip were on the same season, and Phillip beats Adam in finale, and sold Home for quad-platinum, that would have been the perfect season for all. Well, except for some of us who really loved Adam-Kris friendship on the show ;)   
    While I recall very fondly Chris Daughtry and Adam providing great water cooler moments,  I am not sure if we will see these people with plenty of experience on American Idol again. It looks like producers prefer young people. Cody Belew is not gonna happen on Idol, right?