Idol Headlines for 12/30/09

Wow.. today feels like a Kris news days–

Me want me some Adam! Adam where are you?!?!?

Looks like Ryan isn’t going to be miserably cold tomorrow night, though he may get wet. Forecast:

Tomorrow night: A few rain showers early mixing with snow showers late. Low 36F. Winds light and variable. Chance of precip 60%.

Jennifer Lopez and Daughtry will headline from Times Square, with J.Lo singing her hits live just before the famed ball drops to ring in the new year.

That’ll be a first for J-Lo.

I think a lineup headlined by Jennifer Lopez this year is lame. I’m hoping Adam’s Gridlock performance will be the stuff of Legends.

lol, lazyc0w! We must learn to accept that others get the spotlight sometimes, too

lol, lazyc0w! We must learn to accept that others get the spotlight sometimes, too

Agreed!
—-Happy for Kris and his single sales—- i mean it!

I think a lineup headlined by Jennifer Lopez this year is lame. I’m hoping Adam’s Gridlock performance will be the stuff of Legends.

It sounds like the countdown will have something that appeals to all of the millions of people who will be tuning in across the country. The Black Eyed Peas, Bieber, and Daughtry appeal to very diverse groups, and with Bieber’s record sales and popularity, I’m sure he will bring in a lot of viewers.

It sounds like the countdown will have something that appeals to all of the millions of people who will be tuning in across the country. The Black Eyed Peas, Bieber, and Daughtry appeal to very diverse groups, and with Bieber’s record sales and popularity, I’m sure he will bring in a lot of viewers.

True – but I think Miami and Los Angeles will get a lot of news and entertainment show coverage.

O.K. negativity never got me anywhere and I should ” stay positive” as the most talented singer to ever come out of American Idol says…but here goes anyway- I will not be watching THAT effed up station and its D B host who never promotes BB. The forecast is fitting! I’ll be up at 3 A.M. looking for Adamcasts, youtubes, ANYTHING ADAM! BB and the rockin’ band will have a great time in LA!!

Wow.. today feels like a Kris news days’“

I think it’s nice to see a lot of Kris stuff. Spread the wealth around.

And good for the Daughtry fans to have him on the Dick Clark NYE show. And of course Kris and Allison on the Fox show. Yay for them! Not going to lie, still pissy and bitter that Adam won’t be on one. *grumble* But oh wells. Onwards, upwards.

Me want me some Adam! Adam where are you?!?!?

He’s rehearsing on an obscure stage somewhere for an event that isn’t going to get national coverage. I don’t care how ‘cool’ the LA event might be perceived to be by some, it will not garner the national media coverage NYRE will be and is receiving already.

with Bieber’s record sales and popularity, I’m sure he will bring in a lot of viewers.

ROTFLMAO….Funniest thing I have read in a long time. Every 8 to 12 year old in the country will be watching this to see Bieber and then who should pop up but The Black Eyed Peas. Oh my heck…Mommy and Daddy better be monitoring this!

it will not garner the national media coverage NYRE will be and is receiving already

What National Media Coverage? Most of the New Year’s Eve performance lists do not include the “performers” on the Network shows in any blips….but GaGa and Adam and the other entertainers doing “local” gigs are mentioned over and over.

I’m thrilled for Kris & Allison! I’ll definitely be watching on Thursday evening and my son will be thrilled to see Allison, since he loves her.

Boo! On Clark’s NYE. NO ADAM. Yes, I’m still upset about this and with good reason. Although, I will be watching only to see DAUGHTRY perform.

Well, we’ll have two tv’s on for New Year’s Eve.

Yay for them! Not going to lie, still pissy and bitter that Adam won’t be on one. *grumble* But oh wells. Onwards, upwards.

Onwards, upwards sounds like a cool mantra!

Well there is adamcast. Good thing- for once being on the other side of the globe, means I can watch the adamcast at 4 pm as opposed to 4am. Looking forward to it. 40 min concert yay!

I think the last time I stayed home on New Years Eve, I was sleeping on the couch by the time the countdown came around. My husband woke me up long enough to say Happy New Years and then I went off to bed .

but GaGa and Adam and the other entertainers doing ‘local’  gigs are mentioned over and over.

I have to admit, the fact that Lady Gaga is doing a similar “local”, non-televised gig to what Adam’s doing makes me feel a lot better. Not bad company, imo

Re the NYRE – so Daughtry is performing 4 songs, but are all of those televised? I’m guessing not, especially with so many other performers, plus commercials and mindless filler. I usually only catch the last ten minutes before midnight of these shows, so I have no idea.

but GaGa and Adam and the other entertainers doing ‘local’  gigs are mentioned over and over.

I have to admit, the fact that Lady Gaga is doing a similar ‘local’ , non-televised gig to what Adam’s doing makes me feel a lot better. Not bad company, imo

Yes but she is already an established star and can afford to do these things. She doesn’t need the national exposure. Adam does. He’s got a song that needs to be promoted nationally to continue climbing the music charts and it won’t be.

Miscellaneous Idol tidbits:

Apparently Magic 89.9 in Manila, the largest radio station in the Philippines, named David Cook their Male Artist of the Year for 2009, and the Cook/Archuleta concert was named Concert of the Year at their year-end awards.

And Rolling Stone noted both Chris Daughtry’s and David Cook’s condolence tweets regarding Jimmy “The Rev” Sullivan’s sudden death.

The truth of the matter is, about 90% of the “New Year’s Rockin’ Eve” shows, is ads. I think the majority of people, unless they are big fans of a performer that is going to be on the show, just tune in for the ball drop and otherwise the show is background noise.

The truth is that most young people get the majority of their entertaiment from computer sources. Adam isn’t going to be “officially” livestreamed, but his performance will be all over the internet, and because of the cancellation people will be curious to see it.

Like I said above, I’m hoping his performance will be the stuff of legends. We all know he has it in him.

Oh! and sorry about being negative about J-Lo. I just think the vo-corder thing seems really old after watching Adam kill it live. (except for the AMA’s-that was vocally weak for him)

ROTFLMAO’ ¦.Funniest thing I have read in a long time. Every 8 to 12 year old in the country will be watching this to see Bieber and then who should pop up but The Black Eyed Peas. Oh my heck’ ¦Mommy and Daddy better be monitoring this!

Have you seen this kid’s sales numbers over the past two months? Most weeks he’s averaged over 100,000 in sales. Somehow, I don’t think it’s just 8 year olds who are supporting him.

but GaGa and Adam and the other entertainers doing ‘local’  gigs are mentioned over and over.

Yep, because Adam has been much more successful than Bieber or the BEP. LOL. But don’t worry, they’ve gotten their fair share of press this year, too. Not to mention the sales numbers that both have posted.

With the Hollywood crowd and VIPs in attendance, I think the Gridlock event is a bigger chance for Adam to network than one televised song. TV, film guest spots. I’m thinking of the bigger picture.

Apparently Magic 89.9 in Manila, the largest radio station in the Philippines, named David Cook their Male Artist of the Year for 2009, and the Cook/Archuleta concert was named Concert of the Year at their year-end awards.

That’s nice, they were/are very popular there.

As for Adam and RNYE – What’s done is done why dwell, he will have more opportunities in 2010. I still think Gridlock is a great gig and if it wasn’t for AMA-gate would people be willing to pay between 150 to 5,000 a ticket to see him at this point in his career. Adam will still get mucho coverage for this performance – and who knows what opportunities may be spawned because of it.

That Beiber kid annoys the hell out of me

Yes but she is already an established star and can afford to do these things. She doesn’t need the national exposure. Adam does. He’s got a song that needs to be promoted nationally to continue climbing the music charts and it won’t be.

I think we kind of over-estimate the importance of the NYRE gig. Sure, it would have been good exposure, it would have been national coverage etc. But how invested are people during the NYRE thing? The SYTYCD finale gig was, imo, much better in terms of serving up an attentive audience watching him perform. People are treating the NYE shows more like background music (or noise) while they drink.

Plus, it might have given a temporary (few day) boost to WWFM (which he might not have performed anyways, FYE makes more sense for a NYE gig), but at this point radio play matters much more in the new year when it comes to building an audience.

Squirrely
12/30/2009 at 10:48 am
That Beiber kid annoys the hell out of me

LOL – you and me both. I saw the “gangsta” Beiber vid with him and Adam and those ridiculous handshakes backstage, and I could barely get through it. Embarassing.

The truth is that most young people get the majority of their entertaiment from computer sources. Adam isn’t going to be ‘officially’  livestreamed, but his performance will be all over the internet, and because of the cancellation people will be curious to see it.

Mitla96- I agree, and I’ll also add that the majority of young people don’t stay home and watch TV on NYE! I know I’m going dancing at a private party (no TV!!), and many of the people I know are going out to clubs and pubs. Yes, I don’t live in the US, so maybe the American public is different… but I doubt it…
And after people come home, go to sleep, and wake up- it’s much nicer to be seeing 10 songs by your favourite artist than 2 or 3 that you’re already used to…

But I guess for people who are planning on staying home anyway it is a bummer…

I don’t care how ‘cool’ the LA event might be perceived to be by some, it will not garner the national media coverage NYRE will be and is receiving already.

I really don’t think Adam would have gained a slue of new fans doing a song or two on NYRE, anyway. At my house and about every home party I’ve ever been to, it’s been on in the background, with peeps gathering around the TV just in time for the countdown and ball drop. I guess I’ve caught a performer here or there, but I truly can’t recall anyone I’ve seen. The only ones who likely would have made a point to see Adam perform would be his established fans, IMO. I truly believe that the media attention he’s getting for headlining his own show is superior than whatever he would have garnered for singing WWFM for the 5th or so time on TV. The fact that Lady GaGa is doing a similar gig this year and that Katy Perry headlined Gridlock last year puts it in perspective for me that this really is a cool gig for a new artist to have gotten.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3UL-FwoGaA&feature=player_embedded

Review of FYE from Singapore.

I haven’t listened to any of the Beiber Kid’s music, but he probably is a nice safe alternative for tweens and younger kids to listen too. I imagine there are many parents that rather buy a teen boy’s album for their child than an album by an adult. He must have some talent to achieve the sales he is getting, because being considered cute helps but not that much. Alot of singers can only sing certain genres of music live.

I find it interesting – Adam has to be the most hyped AI ever. No Idol has gotten more media coverage, promotion, than this guy – yet he hasn’t necessarily set any records when it comes to sales. There always seems to be other idols that outsell him.

Boy, how I wish that Adam’s Gridlock NYE event would be telecast. I would watch him if it was only telecast on PPV and if it cost $30 or $35 or whatever they charge for a special event for one evening and then I would record the event, .

What what will Adam wear? And how will he do his hair? Emo, elvis? lol

I find it interesting ‘“ Adam has to be the most hyped AI ever. No Idol has gotten more media coverage, promotion, than this guy ‘“ yet he hasn’t necessarily set any records when it comes to sales. There always seems to be other idols that outsell him.

First, Adam has just begun his career. I believe he is not far off from achieving gold status on his debut album. And as for all the hype, promotion, media coverage, Adam is one of a kind, there will never be another Idol as he.

The only ones who likely would have made a point to see Adam perform would be his established fans, IMO. I truly believe that the media attention he’s getting for headlining his own show is superior than whatever he would have garnered for singing WWFM for the 5th or so time on TV.

Yes, ITA – not to mention, on NYRE he would have been mixed in the shuffle with BEP, J. Lo, and Beiber, and would probably not get the coveted “pimp spot” before (and right after) the ball dropping. My guess is that would go to the BEPs, who had so many big hits this year.

Though of course if ABC was smart and not a bunch of babies they would have immediately capitalized on Adam’s shock-tastic behavior, hyped him throughout the NYRE, had him go right before or after midnight, and let him go wild. Because it is, you know, a freaking NYE party, not a trip to Disney World.

But now we DO get wild(er) Adam, so all is good

129aquarius
12/30/2009 at 10:13 am
O.K. negativity never got me anywhere and I should ‘  stay positive’  as the most talented singer to ever come out of American Idol says’ ¦but here goes anyway- I will not be watching THAT effed up station and its D B host who never promotes BB. The forecast is fitting! I’ll be up at 3 A.M. looking for Adamcasts, youtubes, ANYTHING ADAM! BB and the rockin’ band will have a great time in LA!!

Amen to that! ABC no longer watched in my house, period!

Truthiness
12/30/2009 at 10:21 am
Wow.. today feels like a Kris news days’“

I think it’s nice to see a lot of Kris stuff. Spread the wealth around.

ITA, very happy to see Kris news, as I posted before, slow and steady seams to be his thing, so good for him.
Also, for ppl watching Adams albums sale numbers : add 2 that two of my coworkers just ordered from Amazon after hearing me playing it at work. The exposure is happening, it is not just the tv or the radio, it is person to person as well as youtube where Adam is still getting the most views out of all AI8 alumni:)! And Adam’s WWFM was #1 yst on Z-100 interactive 9 at 9, and I am happy to report my hubby is now singing along to it!LOL

He must have some talent to achieve the sales he is getting, because being considered cute helps but not that much. Alot of singers can only sing certain genres of music live.

I can’t really hold too much against Beiber, in the end, because imo he should just enjoy the ride while it lasts. It’s hard to be a teen sensation, and especially to blow up so quickly like he has. Very few come out and stay anywhere near as big (JT is one of the only that immediately comes to mind).

And Adam’s WWFM was #1 yst on Z-100 interactive 9 at 9, and I am happy to report my hubby is now singing along to it!LOL

It was also #9 on a top 9 at 9:00 on KissFm out of LA.

Beiber is annoying to me. My husband uses Napster to Go a lot and he downloaded a premade playlist from there the other day. I borrowed his stuff on my way to and from work yesterday because I need new headphones for mine, and when the Beiber song came on I couldn’t believe it was a guy. He sounds like a girl since his voice hasn’t dropped yet. Just ick. And it makes me think his career is over when his voice does change.

He’s hyped because of his TALENT.

Talent was never a guarauntee for success, though, so who knows how things will work out.

That said- it’s still kinda early to tell about success, especially long-term success, ain’t it? From my POV, he’s doing good so far, and the sky’s the limit.

Edit: talking about Adam, not Beiber…

Just to add my 2 cents. My college age daughter is reporting that many of her friends have Adam on their ipods now. Not just WWFM and FYE but other songs from his album. This is great as far as Adam’s popularity goes, but the bad part is that almost all of this is from illegal downloads. My daughter says almost NO one she knows buys singles from iTunes anymore. Adam’s songs are all over the internet and available to download for free. The consolation is that this is great exposure. I am shocked at the amount of views for anything Adam on youTube. I am talking MILLIONS of views from his pre-idol days to FYE songs. I know Adam’s marketing peeps are well aware of this and are doing what they have to do to market Adam in the arena where the real money is now and that is live performances. Unfortunately actual purchases of singles and CD’s seems to be less and less lucrative.

mr
12/30/2009 at 11:15 am
He’s hyped because of his TALENT.

Talent was never a guarauntee for success, though, so who knows how things will work out.

That said- it’s still kinda early to tell about success, especially long-term success, ain’t it? From my POV, he’s doing good so far, and the sky’s the limit.

You said it better than I ever could, so thank you!

I can’t believe some people are actually trying to say that doing Gridlock is more prestigious than doing New Year’s Eve with Clark and Seacrest. I know, it’s upsetting that he was excluded from the show in such a unforunate situation and it’s good to be positive, but… really?

Just to add my 2 cents. My college age daughter is reporting that many of her friends have Adam on their ipods now. Not just WWFM and FYE but other songs from his album. This is great as far as Adam’s popularity goes, but the bad part is that almost all of this is from illegal downloads. My daughter says almost NO one she knows buys singles from iTunes anymore. Adam’s songs are all over the internet and available to download for free. The consolation is that this is great exposure. I am shocked at the amount of views for anything Adam on youTube. I am talking MILLIONS of views from his pre-idol days to FYE songs. I know Adam’s marketing peeps are well aware of this and are doing what they have to do to market Adam in the arena where the real money is now and that is live performances. Unfortunately actual purchases of singles and CD’s seems to be less and less lucrative.

It’s not just Adam either. It’s Kris. It’s Cook. It’s Jordin. Etc, etc. It’s one of the reasons I doubt there will ever be another idol who sells like Kelly, Carrie and Daughtry have (maybe in Country there will be? I don’t know how country fans are about music buying and downloads).

Supposedly the artists make much more money now from concerts than from music sales, since the college age kids steal the majority of their music.

There are plenty of talented people who are not hyped.

Lambert is hyped because he plays the media game: feed them enough ‘story’ to keep them interested. He likes, lives and plays the fame game.

He’s talented sure, but he’s nothing extraordinary, to my mind – his music is good, I like some of his songs, but it is not outstanding, media hoopla and OTT support, notwithstanding.

The things that do make him stand out – willingness to draw attention through controversy; bold performances or talking points; glam styling etc – are copied from other artists.

The only things that truely distinguish him are that a) he’s male and b) he’s openly gay. Whilst I can appreciate the importance of that to some people, it means nothing whatsoever in terms of his talent or artistry. To most people those facts are completely uninteresting and irrelevant to his importance as a recording artist.

For his type of music, I’d rather support Lady Gaga or Muse or (going back a bit) The Darkness or The Scissor Sisters, because they are/were original.

Unless the sales start living up to the hype soon, he’s going to start looking like an empty promise.

And after people come home, go to sleep, and wake up- it’s much nicer to be seeing 10 songs by your favourite artist than 2 or 3 that you’re already used to’ ¦

This is nice, but I think what’s even nicer is that the people who will be getting national exposure will be seen by those who are not fans, and who don’t already own copies of those 10 songs. Those who search out video of a private event on youtube have already been converted, while those who are getting national attention are being seen by both fans and newbies.

Yes, lots of people go out on new years, but even those who go to parties sometimes have the countdown shows playing in the background. Either way, they still manage to draw in a good sized audience.

12/30/2009 at 11:12 am
And Adam’s WWFM was #1 yst on Z-100 interactive 9 at 9, and I am happy to report my hubby is now singing along to it!LOL

It was also #9 on a top 9 at 9:00 on KissFm out of LA.

That’s great, thank you!

It’s not just Adam either. It’s Kris. It’s Cook. It’s Jordin. Etc, etc. It’s one of the reasons I doubt there will ever be another idol who sells like Kelly, Carrie and Daughtry have (maybe in Country there will be? I don’t know how country fans are about music buying and downloads).

There was a story on NPR just before Christmas which discussed Country Music. In the story they said it was estimated that less than 50 percent of country music fans reported using computers on a regular basis outside of work. They indicated this was one reason (along with fan longevity and loyalty) that country music sales remained stronger than the average music sales. But they also predicted that things would soon change as new country music artists such as Taylor Swift dominated the market.

Yes, lots of people go out on new years, but even those who go to parties sometimes have the countdown shows playing in the background. Either way, they still manage to draw in a good sized audience.

Exactly. My friends always have a party that we go to and there is always flipping between different countdown shows. And we always stay until about 1:30 am to ensure that anyone driving is sober (of course there are designated drivers (such as the pregnant women among us) but it’s not always easy to get tipsy/drink people to a car)

I really look forward to seeing Allison on New Year’s Eve! That’s great for her.

I hated the WSJ’s list of possible replacements for Simon. Glad they aren’t the deciders! David Foster?? ugghh.

I want Dicko!!

Yes, lots of people go out on new years, but even those who go to parties sometimes have the countdown shows playing in the background.

In all my many many NYE parties, no one has ever watched more than the ball dropping.

That Beiber kid annoys the hell out of me

Yeah but he doesn’t annoy millions of others.

I can’t believe some people are actually trying to say that doing Gridlock is more prestigious than doing New Year’s Eve with Clark and Seacrest. I know, it’s upsetting that he was excluded from the show in such a unforunate situation and it’s good to be positive, but’ ¦ really?

My sentiments exactly.

But now we DO get wild(er) Adam, so all is good

….and wilder Adam is what got him into this mess in the first place. He keeps it up he’ll be doing these kind of gigs for the same few people for the rest of his career.

In all my many many NYE parties, no one has ever watched more than the ball dropping.

Just like everyone’s taste in music, so are everyone’s experiences. Something tells me that the people at NYRE must be doing something right, or else the show wouldn’t have lasted this long, and ABC wouldn’t have given them an extra hour at 10 o’clock. That show gets so much press for a reason.

Hey, maybe NYRE is biiiig in the US and maybe Gridlocked is NOT as big a deal as NYRE. But to be a total newcomer and to be asked to do a 40 min gig is a BIG BIG deal!

Me want me some Adam! Adam where are you?!?!?

He’s rehearsing on an obscure stage somewhere for an event that isn’t going to get national coverage. I don’t care how ‘cool’ the LA event might be perceived to be by some, it will not garner the national media coverage NYRE will be and is receiving already.

Wow !!! That hurts, really hurts. …an obscure stage somewhere… That really hurts !!!

In all my many many NYE parties, no one has ever watched more than the ball dropping.

That’s probably typical, but not everybody goes to parties on NYE. Some people stay at home. I remember when I was a teenager, I watched those shows as I earned my highest yearly wages as a baby-sitter. Perhaps some of those dollars earned by teenagers this year will make their way into a music purchaser or two. Plus, there are all those people who just don’t feel like going out on New Year’s Eve with all the drunks on the road (and having to pay so much for a babysitter or a myriad of other reasons).

It must be worth their time or I can’t imagine big acts like the Black Eyed Peas would bother. Even Katy Perry last year didn’t turn down having her Gridlock performance partially aired on one of the New Year’s shows last year (and to do that, they probably had have her performance earlier in the evening on the West Coast than midnight).

In all my many many NYE parties, no one has ever watched more than the ball dropping.

Yeah, my friends and I usually go out, but last year we went to a house party, and the show was playing on the TV on mute while other music is being pumped… and then we un-muted just for the countdown.

That said, I still think it’s pretty good exposure just to get your face out there, cuz millions of people glance at the TV all night…? I remember seeing Kelly Pickler’s face, along with Taylor Swift, the JoBros last year, etc. last year, even if I didn’t hear them (in that sense, Pickler got a nice gig hosting, cuz she showed up on the TV a lot even without singing!)

It’s a tough year financially. Not many people have the money to go out so I’m sure there are going to be more at home celebrations, whether the TV is muted through most of it or not.

I’ll add my 2 cents about gridlock & televised appearances. I think it is unfortunate that Adam will not be televised, but in the big scheme of things this is a blip on the screen. If it really is that important for a new or established artist, then I’ll expect to see increased sales across the board come the following week. Personally I don’t think we will see a significant bump. So my conclusion is *shrug*

Just to add my 2 cents. My college age daughter is reporting that many of her friends have Adam on their ipods now. Not just WWFM and FYE but other songs from his album. This is great as far as Adam’s popularity goes, but the bad part is that almost all of this is from illegal downloads. My daughter says almost NO one she knows buys singles from iTunes anymore.

Too true. Just look at the top album sales, and it’s interesting to note that, with album sales in general down year to year, how much is dominated by certain demographics: the Bieber/Swift/Miley crowd (teens), and the over-60 crowd (SuBo, Andrea Bocelli). College kids (and 20-30 somethings) very frequently get music for free – it’s just way too easy. Heck, that even hurt things like the FYE mv – you could easily get an HD version online weeks before it was for sale on itunes. I bought it just to support Adam, but I already had a version from when it first leaked online.

There are plenty of talented people who are not hyped.

Lambert is hyped because he plays the media game: feed them enough ‘story’ to keep them interested. He likes, lives and plays the fame game.

He’s talented sure, but he’s nothing extraordinary, to my mind

While I agree that Adam is extraordinarily adept at working the media to great effect, and that that is part of the media fascination with him, I have to disagree on the talent issue. Among vocalists today (male and female), very few today could touch his voice or stage presence. Voice in particular (have you HEARD how most pop stars actually sing, when they’re forced to do it live? Shudder).

I can’t believe some people are actually trying to say that doing Gridlock is more prestigious than doing New Year’s Eve with Clark and Seacrest. I know, it’s upsetting that he was excluded from the show in such a unforunate situation and it’s good to be positive, but’ ¦ really?

Umm, because the NYRE, while a great gig, is hardly the end all be all for these guys. If Adam was on it or not, I doubt it would have made much difference AT ALL in the bigger scheme of things.

I want Dicko!!

Dicko FTW!

He’s hyped because of his TALENT

Ha Ha Ha.

He was hyped for his shock value as well. Scandel sells. He was hyped from the get for being the “gay guy from AI” not for his music. Any fan that doesn’t believe this is trying to re-write AI history. His sales are not yet translating to that hype. If it was, KA’s single would not be outselling all 3 of AL’s. As to ABC dumping him from the NYE show, he brought that on himself and I for one will not boycott ABC because of it. They made a BUSINESS decision and if that’s what they wanted so be it. AL may be the next global superstar, BUT TO DATE HE IS NOT ONE.

He’s rehearsing on an obscure stage somewhere for an event that isn’t going to get national coverage.

Adam you’d better rehearse hard wherever you are ’cause I’m expecting to dance my ass off when you and your band tour to Chicago and perform, covered by national network or not

I live outside the US so I can’t get the NYRE but will get to see the ball dropping. My family and friends have a tradition of eating 12 grapes at the strikes of the clock at midnight.

We have sattlelise dish, so we flip through channels to see the fireworks and the celebrations of New Year throughout the world, starts from Kiri Bati (sp?) then Australia over the Opera House in Sydney, then Asia, Europe, America and on till Hawaii. Most years we see the drop of the ball at Time Square in New York.

After New Year, I’ll be busy searching YouTube for some performances.
Please, someone here kindly post whatever you have for peeps who live outside the US. like me. It will be greatly appreciated.

fadetowhite your 11:26 post said exactly what I was thinking.

IMO being on 4 or 5 magazine covers and going to a few red carpet events really doesn’t help sell alot albums. I think Adam is smart not to turn down these opportunities to try to promote his music. I don’t think most people outside of AI look at a magazine cover and article of Adam’s and say gee I am gonna go out and buy his album. Radio play,TV performances and concerts probably do this much more since that is showing the actual music. I assume Adam is very hardworking at his profession considering he was willing to drop out of college and pursue his dream of making it in music for more than 10 years. His sales so far are not indicating he is the next global superstar, maybe things will change but maybe not, only time will tell.

Just like everyone’s taste in music, so are everyone’s experiences. Something tells me that the people at NYRE must be doing something right, or else the show wouldn’t have lasted this long, and ABC wouldn’t have given them an extra hour at 10 o’clock. That show gets so much press for a reason.

Yeah, but we’re talking about how much the success of these performers is going to be impacted by being or not being on the show. The show gets good ratings, and it’s hardly going away, but as has been pointed out here before, how many people are really listening that attentively to all these performers? Sure, some will, but for most the ball dropping is the main attraction.

‘ ¦.and wilder Adam is what got him into this mess in the first place. He keeps it up he’ll be doing these kind of gigs for the same few people for the rest of his career.

Wow. Really? I hate to tell you, but Adam on the AMAs was a part of who he is as a performer. He ain’t singing MW on a stool the rest of his career. Plenty of people out there are happy for that. And what a pity he only gets to perform for $1000s/table guests in LA.

His sales are not yet translating to that hype. If it was, KA’s single would not be outselling all 3 of AL’s.

And yet his album is outselling Kris’s 2 to 1 because…?

I suspect the record company would rather see album sales than single sales. This goes for all artists.

Touring is where the money is at for artists today. I expect Adam will tour well. Venue size may not be any bigger than the clubs that Gaga started touring in, but good live shows usually have good word of mouth.

Mary101

Among vocalists today (male and female), very few today could touch his voice or stage presence

I agree with you to some extent. Lambert’s voice is much purer and has a much bigger range than the vast majority of pop stars. You can hear voices just like his on the West End stage (and I’d presume Broadway) but it is unusual in pop music – not unique, but unusual.

But – and I kind of remember having this discussion before – I don’t think most people buy music solely because of the voice: they buy it because they love the music, or the beat, or the lyrics, or more likely, a combination of the three. If that wasn’t the case, then all of those inferior voiced pop singers just wouldn’t be selling the way that they do.

Lambert’s music just doesn’t quite have the stand out and grab you by the throat quality that really good pop songs do. It’s pretty good: I can certainly listen to it and enjoy it – but it’s not at the level of pop greatness.

And that wouldn’t be a problem at all – because that’s quite a lot to ask of someone who’s just graduated from AI and is starting out in the industry.

It wouldn’t be a problem, if it weren’t for the ridiculous hype that skates over the reality – reasonable, quite promising, but not significant or outstanding sales – to keep pushing, pushing, pushing the message that here is the next big star.

I find it equally fascinating and repellant, this whole, ‘we, the media and industry will make you a star at all costs’ thing. And it has actually pretty much obscured Lambert himself in my mind.

Which is a shame.

Because given the chance to grow more naturally – and given a more realistic press (i.e. a solid start which could lead to great things, but is slightly on the low side for an AI graduate with that amount of press and publicity) I could have been a supporter.

I suspect the record company would rather see album sales than single sales

Tell Jordan Sparks that.

Yeah, but we’re talking about how much the success of these performers is going to be impacted by being or not being on the show.

Potential impact of NYRE is MUCH bigger than impact of Gridlock’s performance. Even if it’s not crucial, it’s still bigger. It’s a good opportunity to find new fans, outside Idol’s bubble.

I suspect the record company would rather see album sales than single sales

Tell Jordan Sparks that.

I’m sure her label would prefer much better album sales. For every album sale, you have to sell roughly 12x as many singles to make the same money, sometimes more so, when you look at deluxe albums going for up to $20. That means selling a million singles (NOT an easy feat), is roughly equivalent to a rather modest 83,000 albums.

I was just stating the obvious that given the choice of one million singles and one million albums, of course the record company would prefer album sales. Needless post I suppose

I am looking forward to Cookie’s new album too.

And I’m very interested to see what RCA does with Adam internationally.

2010 will be great for all the idols’ ¦but there is only one star and he’s out getting ready to conquer the world. Am excited for 2010!! =)

I totally disagree with this. There are many stars, not one. Just because I don’t like yours is not to say mine is not a star also. I’m also looking forward to 2010 but for Cookie’s new album.

I suspect the record company would rather see album sales than single sales

Tell Jordan Sparks that.

economics 101…….1 million albums at $10 a shot equals 10 million dollars.

1 million singles at $1.29 equals 1 million 2 hundred and ninety thousand dollars.

You have to sell a lot of platinum singles to equal one platinum album

edit: Uhm. But…you just did respond. One more like that, and you’re in moderation

Yeah, but we’re talking about how much the success of these performers is going to be impacted by being or not being on the show. The show gets good ratings, and it’s hardly going away, but as has been pointed out here before, how many people are really listening that attentively to all these performers? Sure, some will, but for most the ball dropping is the main attraction.

How many people listen attentively when these people are on any show, whether it be Letterman, the Tonight Show, etc. The point is that it all adds up, just like the radio airplay adds up. Acts need to do all of these things to reach as many people as possible, get their names out there, and make people familiar with them and their songs. Events like NYRE reaches millions of people, and is just another way for acts to let a mass audience connect their name with that song that they keep hearing on the radio.

By the way, being asked to perform at any event is an honor. I don’t get the need to act like the NYRE or the Billboard events are not big or as much as an honor just because Adam won’t be doing either one. If someone thinks that there is an audience who wants to hear someone’s music, so they go through the expense of inviting them to their event, station, concert, jingle ball etc., then that artist must be doing something right.

He’s rehearsing on an obscure stage somewhere for an event that isn’t going to get national coverage. I don’t care how ‘cool’ the LA event might be perceived to be by some, it will not garner the national media coverage NYRE will be and is receiving already.

I will feel the same way if the next morning j-lo, daughtry, selena gomez, kris, allison etc have the no 1 albums/singles in America. until then I think I am cool with this gig.

@fadetowhite
I agree with you too.

@ptslittlecomment
<50%? They are probably using Dial-up too. I don't mean to offend any country fans here! just joking!

And to whomever mentioned they didn't like WSJ's list of Cowell's replacements – I agree. With the original "announcement" someone here mentioned Gene Simmons. That would be hilarious! Eminem has made some statements in the past too. Maybe it was for X-Factor. Every other word would be bleeped out.

Just throwing it out because I really don't know too much about them other than 1 or 2 songs… What about one of the guys from Beastie Boys? Weren't they nominated for the Hall of Fame? That would bring some diversity to the judging panel at least. IDK. I'll still miss Simon.

I was just stating the obvious that given the choice of one million singles and one million albums, of course the record company would prefer album sales. Needless post I suppose

I am looking forward to Cookie’s new album too.

And I’m very interested to see what RCA does with Adam internationally.

I wonder if all of the other fans of idols who sold better than Adam has during the first month that their albums were out made the same predictions. I’m pretty sure they did.

“‘ ¦.and wilder Adam is what got him into this mess in the first place. He keeps it up he’ll be doing these kind of gigs for the same few people for the rest of his career.”

clearone you crack me up. What mess? Adam managed to come out smelling like a rose after the AMA’s IMO. His album sales are great, his singles doubled in sales. WWFM is climbing. Say what you will but Gridlock is a Great gig that he is HEADLINING for goodness sakes. There will be a live stream through Adamcast and plenty of youTubes. Have you seen the amount of views Adam youTubes generate? Adam is doing just fine, LOL!

Rockin New year’s Eve would have had Adam’s music reaching a much bigger audience, but since it got cancelled I am glad that Adam was able to find something else.

I totally disagree with this. There are many stars, not one. Just because I don’t like yours is not to say mine is not a star also. I’m also looking forward to 2010 but for Cookie’s new album.

Well said. Even if one is a star, that doesn’t preclude the others from being stars.

thanks for the news from manila about Cook being the 2009 male artist of the year, he deserves it, he’s very popular here in the Philippines.
I am not a fan of Cook but it is good to hear that all his hard work this year is being recognized by our own local radio station.

thanks for the news from manila about Cook being the 2009 male artist of the year, he deserves it, he’s very popular here in the Philippines.
I am not a fan of Cook but it is good to hear that all his hard work this year is being recognized by our own local radio station.

The Philippines really love their AI don’t they? I’ve heard Cook and Archuleta are well liked there. I wonder if Cook knows yet. Someone needs to tweet him!

Would it be better and broader exposure for Adam to be on NYRE? Of course. But he isn’t going to be on it– it is the price that he is paying for the AMAs, however ridiculous (IMO beyond ridiculous). It would have been a nice gig, but it is hardly going to derail his career. The Gridlock gig is a nice substitute because it will give him and his band the opportunity to perform an extended set in front of a live crowd, something they have not done yet.

No one seems to be mentioning the fact that Kris and Allison are headlining the Fox New Years show and that they should both receive a real nice kick in the pants on their sales for that exposure. And being in Vegas has procured Kris a nice supper-club engagement at the new BBKing’s at the Mirage for tonight. And David C. is doing 2 shows at a really nice Casino in California with an audience of 2400 over the two nights.

What about the other idols….do they have gigs for the night. We know Daughtry does, but what about Kelly or Carrie or David A. or Jordin. How are they spending their New Year’s eve.

Bottom line is that it is one night…and every gig is important to a performer (if they want it). I am sure those performing are making pretty decent money…more so than most of us make in a month if not longer.

I’m sure her label would prefer much better album sales. For every album sale, you have to sell roughly 12x as many singles to make the same money, sometimes more so, when you look at deluxe albums going for up to $20. That means selling a million singles (NOT an easy feat), is roughly equivalent to a rather modest 83,000 albums.

Maybe, but the happiness of the record label is only one of many things that an artist has to consider. I think the power of a good single goes far beyond simple dollars. It’s what makes people notice the artist. It’s what makes radio stations more likely to play their second song. It also makes marketting cheaper for the record label in the long run. One hit single is also what got artists like MIA, Sara Bareilles, Kevin Rudolph recognition and/or grammy nominations regardless of album sales. Also, when an idol’s single does well (like Kris’), it’s often an indicator that they are reaching people outside of the idol audience and extending beyond the SuBo-type crowd that you mentioned earlier. Also , the math doesn’t completely work out since a lot of albums go on sale..

Also , the math doesn’t completely work out since a lot of albums go on sale..

Are you hinting to the $3.99 sale that happened eons ago and for only a week or so?

Are you hinting to the $3.99 sale that happened eons ago and for only a week or so?

No I wasn’t…I don’t even think those sales count in terms of billboard numbers. I’m saying that one album is not worth 12 singles, that is all. I completely agree with what sr4mjc said, I just disagreed with the followup responses.

Might as well throw the $24.99 AO version in the math as well! I kid, I kid..

The NYE gigs are good for all the Idols. I’m sure there will be some press for Adam’s show and I am of the opinion that the AMA coverage did not hurt him one bit and he’s no way in a mess. Vocally it could have been a better performance from him though.

Actually the female dj in Tampa just announced WWFM a little while ago and said “he promised to be more demure next year and I’m disappointed. Does that mean less glitter?” Not everyone wants tame Adam

There are bound to be folks at Gridlock who are not already fans but are there for the party. A new audience to sell to.

He’s hyped because of his TALENT

And if that were true, Audra McDonald would be the one on all the magazine covers and headlining every single event out there that involves music. Instead, her biggest fame at the moment is being on a TV show where she doesn’t sing. Or maybe Grace Bumbry should be at the top of the talent list — she’s the opera singer who received Kennedy Center Honors last night, but I would wager to guess she has never and will never grace the cover of People Magazine, even if she did appear naked to sing Salome in her prime. Maybe if she gets into a threesome with Adam and Amy Winehouse she’ll get more press.

Adam was in a place (American Idol) that gets a lot of media attention. He got the lion’s share of the attention among the people on AI because he was different for AI, in that he was theatrical and over the top and Simon liked him instead of throwing bricks at him like he usually does the people like Adam. But let’s be honest — most of the attention he’s gotten is because he’s gay and he has a very big persona, which he played to huge effect at the AMAs. That’s what the chatter is on the subject of Adam — SCANDAL! GAY! OUT! NAUGHTY! CRAZY! WHAT WILL HE DO NEXT???

To me, Adam’s brand of naughty and edgy is what 14-year-olds do when they get piercings and tattoos and draw penises on the bathroom walls and write in their notebooks in green and purple ink about how they want to have dirty sex with somebody from “Twilight.” Very sophomoric and not really very edgy. More just icky.

To me, Adam’s brand of naughty and edgy is what 14-year-olds do when they get piercings and tattoos and draw penises on the bathroom walls and write in their notebooks in green and purple ink about how they want to have dirty sex with somebody from ‘Twilight.’  Very sophomoric and not really very edgy. More just icky.

Haha. That is the best description of anybody ever. You owe me a new keyboard after I ruined mine with Pepsi. lol

All the gigs are good gigs. Cookie will play to 5k people in two shows, Adam in one. Kris and Allison will be in Vegas and on tv. It’s all good!

I don’t think Adam is crying in his martini over this.

There’s no real “right” answer to that since (obviously) people have different tastes, but FWIW: I think that there’s (also obviously) a lot of interest in Adam’s sexuality and OTTness, and Adam is very good at handling the media.

And very little of that interest would exist if it were not for the intense interest in how extraordinary and unusual a singer and performer Adam is.

The articles in Time and EW and MTV and others talk about his sexuality and how he handles it, and they talk about “that voice ‘” ranging from a husky smolder to a granite-splitting glam-rock shriek ‘” and those glittered-out, magnetic performances.”

There’s a lot of interest in the former–people are interested in how someone who’s trying to be a male pop/rock star can do while being openly gay from the beginning. And that interest wouldn’t exist, or wouldn’t exist to any great degree, without the tremendous fascination with the latter.

But not everyone is going to think Adam is extraordinarily gifted–we all have different tastes in music and voices, and that’s 100% fine, obviously. I am happy that a lot of musically knowledgeable people seem to think that Adam is amazing, that his album is excellent and is getting good reviews overall, that WWFM seems to be rising, etc.

But there’s no “right” answer to the question of whether or not someone is talented (unless you’re just going by technical skill and even that’s often debatable).

As for the NYE thing–it seems pretty hard to argue that being on TV on NYE would be a nice thing–there always seem to be sales bumps after major appearances. It also seems pretty hard to argue that any one appearance is crucial for a singer’s career. I’d like Adam to be on TV, but it’s fine in the long run if he’s not, and I am really excited that he’s headlining a major industry event in LA (who knows where that sort of thing can lead?) and that I’ll hear live versions of a bunch of the album songs.

Basically, everyone has their own opinion (obvious statement is obvious), and there’s nothing wrong with that.

I don’t know if this has been posted yet but here’s an Adam Lambert article which includes a picture of a younger red-headed Adam performing in Grease

http://www.nctimes.com/entertainment/columnists/kragen/article_05df15d9-5748-5f68-96dc-397024706901.html “BACKSTAGE: Reflections on a year (and a career) covering the arts’Ž”

I think the power of a good single goes far beyond simple dollars. It’s what makes people notice the artist. It’s what makes radio stations more likely to play their second song. It also makes marketting cheaper for the record label in the long run. One hit single is also what got artists like MIA, Sara Bareilles, Kevin Rudolph recognition and/or grammy nominations regardless of album sales.

You make some good points here. It’s not all so cut and dried. Album sales are important, but so are grammy nominations, name recognition, dj friendliness, etc. Hit singles can pave the way for the other that follow, and can lead to more cd sales too.

Re Adam’s NYE gig, surely the Ryan Seacrest one would have been better, but nothing wrong with looking at the bright side either. They’re all doing great this year compared to where they were two years ago on NYE. So congratulations to them all. They will all “win some and lose some” along the way.

Thanks AndreaH for that article. I love that the writer noticed Adam’s voice from an early age. And Grease isn’t exactly a ‘singers’ musical.

but there is only one star and he’s out getting ready to conquer the world.

I don’t consider Adam a star — he hasn’t proved himself yet to be in that category. Just because there’s more everything of him, a lot of it is not because of his music and curiosity. Very few people outside of the AI bubble have never heard of him, so he still has a lot of work to reach star status.

To me, Adam’s brand of naughty and edgy is what 14-year-olds do when they get piercings and tattoos and draw penises on the bathroom walls and write in their notebooks in green and purple ink about how they want to have dirty sex with somebody from ‘Twilight.’  Very sophomoric and not really very edgy. More just icky.

i tried to understand the point being made here. 14 year olds and penises. o well…

All the gigs are good gigs. Cookie will play to 5k people in two shows, Adam in one. Kris and Allison will be in Vegas and on tv

Cook has a gig on NYE? . where is that happening.

Reminder:

Keep your remarks focused on the subject, and off your fellow posters. I am deleting posts now.

Oh, let’s keep this thread a discussion? If somebody disses your favorite Idol, and you come back with a diss of THEIR favorite, that’s not a discussion. It’s what happens on the middle school playground.

Cook is playing the Pechanga Resort & Casino in California tonight and tomorrow night.

To me, Adam’s brand of naughty and edgy is what 14-year-olds do when they get piercings and tattoos and draw penises on the bathroom walls and write in their notebooks in green and purple ink about how they want to have dirty sex with somebody from ‘Twilight.’  Very sophomoric and not really very edgy. More just icky.

Did Adam do any of those? I’m a little dense. When he gives an interview he seems to be very intelligent and mature, a lot better than other idols. He seems to know life beyond his years. YMMV

Cook is playing the Pechanga Resort & Casino in California tonight and tomorrow night.

o good for him. were tickets open to the public for buying? never heard saw the info.

I do think, at least from my informal polling of relatives during Christmas get-togethers, that a lot of people HAVE heard about Adam outside the AI bubble, and, whether planned or not, it was because of the AMA performance. I think Adam’s CD will continue to slowly and steadily sell over the next couple of months, esp. as he releases what I consider to be the stronger single songs, such as Music Again and Fever.

As for Adam Lambert being a star-I, he does have something besides his incredible voice. Charisma. You can’t learn it, you can’t buy it, but no matter what, even if he is just sitting in a group, your eye is drawn to him. He IS polarizing because he is so fabulous.

And as for the comparisons to a kid drawing attention to himself, pshaw! I’ve seen him perform live. The room was electric. He’s a very sexual performer, and I do think he is going to have to learn how far to go when a television camera is on him as opposed to in a live room. He was acting out in a sexual way to a sexual song that had such racy lyrics they were debated for a week on this forum.

SO looking forward to whatever film comes from NYE. It’ll be great~!

o good for him. were tickets open to the public for buying? never heard saw the info.

Tickets were open to the public. They were advertised on TV/Radio in California, on-line, and on highway billboards in the Temecula/San Diego area.

His sales are not yet translating to that hype. If it was, KA’s single would not be outselling all 3 of AL’s.

Yet Adam’s ALBUM is outselling Kris’s album 2 to 1. I guess the sales are translating somehow! Adam’s single is actually outselling Kris’s at the five week mark. Something must be working!

In all my many many NYE parties, no one has ever watched more than the ball dropping.

Yeah, my friends and I usually go out, but last year we went to a house party, and the show was playing on the TV on mute while other music is being pumped’ ¦ and then we un-muted just for the countdown.

True! The only things the people in my crowd commented on were: how cute Kellie P. looked, how Taylor Swift looked like she was freezing, and the debate on which one of the Jonas Brothers we thought was gay! LOL

Yet Adam’s ALBUM is outselling Kris’s album 2 to 1. I guess the sales are translating somehow! Adam’s single is actually outselling Kris’s at the five week mark. Something must be working!

I think we discussed above that we can’t compare the singles sale between these 2 guys because of other factors that affect the sales of singles (promo, album drops, calendar week of drop).

Did Adam do any of those? I’m a little dense. When he gives an interview he seems to be very intelligent and mature, a lot better than other idols. He seems to know life beyond his years. YMMV

Adam does have that ONE tattoo that he waited until he was 27 years old to get! I believe there are more tattoos and piercings on other idols from the past seasons! Of course, I’ve never considered piercings and tattoos to be “icky”. Nor do I believe that 14 year olds should be getting them. (except for ear piercings)

I believe there are more tattoos and piercings on other idols from the past seasons!

Yeah Cook has 7 tats (he said piercings weren’t his thing) and Carrie has 2. Blake Lewis has a bunch aswell. So yeah Adam doesn’t have really anything, but just a tat and gauges.

Adam isn’t the first gay idol contestant. He’s not the first contestant with a theater background. The media is obviously liking something else about him or they wouldn’t bother. Whether it’s the voice or just ‘it’ they like him. I do think the Burning Man pictures and Adam’s eccentric friends and Weho style helped. His seemingly fearless attitude maybe? And he is charming and easy on the eyes. The boy takes some fun pictures too!

Billboard interviews Idols on 2010 plans:
http://www.billboard.com/news/video-2009-chart-stars-talk-2010-plans-1004055761.story#/news/video-2009-chart-stars-talk-2010-plans-1004055761.story

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Here are links to the individual interview videos.

Kris:
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid59392739001?bclid=59413996001&bctid=57188428001

Adam:
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid59392739001?bclid=59413996001&bctid=58552090001

Allison:
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid59392739001?bclid=59413996001&bctid=58608126001

News Corp.’s Chase Carey expects Fox signals to be pulled from Time Warner Cable

Feb. 3-5 before the Super Bowl in Miami, FL., you can delivery teddy bears with Jordan, David Archueta, and other stars to the children’s hosptital if you pay $2500 per ticket. There are less than 20 tickets available. I would love to do something like that if I had money!

Will, we experienced this same sort of thing this year with Direct TV who had a fight with comcast. Comcast ended up making the price for “Versus” so high that Direct TV had to drop it. Unfortunately, it meant that some of our college football games could only be seen on Comcast. It is so annoying!

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2009/12/news-corps-chase-carey-expects-fox-signals-to-be-pulled-from-time-warner-cable.html

Nooooooooooooooooo. I will kill myself. I have Time Warner Cable. Just in case tell me it streams online. Waaaaaaaah.

News Corp.’s Chase Carey expects Fox signals to be pulled from Time Warner Cable

Interesting!!!!

A little light-hearted fun for the day… Jim C. got a Christmas present from Kris’s mom…

The MTV blog: http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/12/30/kris-allen-mom/

Jim also provided a twitter play by play: http://twitter.com/jambajim

I’m looking forward to seeing/hearing whatever I can of Adam Lambert’s NYE Gridlock concert (tweets, twit pics, livestream, u-tubes). But because I know I WILL see him perform live when he goes on tour (a few times, I hope), it doesn’t bother me that this concert will not be televised or that he won’t be on a NYE TV show.

(Even those who are not his fans – maybe particularly those – would likely acknowledge that he’s been on TV not infrequently.)

I don’t fear he’s in “danger” of not gaining enough new fans fast enough “outside the AI bubble” because over 400,000 albums sold thus far, I understand, is very good (whether they’re “AI” fans or “new” fans).

Do Adam’s interviews, magazine covers and/or spreads sell more of his music? I don’t know, but I don’t think they could hurt (and I love them). They might help position him to have the kind of career that suits him and his goals (and I’m sure they’re fun to do).

Perhaps because Adam is “about” a little more than his generally acknowledged by most fine singing voice (i.e. interested in “show”manship; fashion – clothes; make-up; modeling; interviews; etc.?), entertainment media give him a little more attentions on lists.

edit: The topic is NOT the thread

He IS polarizing because he is so fabulous.

LOL. He is polarizing but not necessarily because he is “so fabulous”. I don’t think he is that fabulous, but that is my opinion only. It’s OK if you think so but I personally think David Cook is fabulous. Does that make him polarizing too?

Damnit I was just about to post Jim’s tweet but MJ’s froze up when I tried to refresh!

ETA: *sigh* Is it Season Nine yet?

Thank you soverymel for the Billboard interview links. I watched all of them.

Here are links to the individual interview videos.

Kris:
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid59392739001?bclid=59413996001&bctid=57188428001

Adam:
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid59392739001?bclid=59413996001&bctid=58552090001

Allison:
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid59392739001?bclid=59413996001&bctid=58608126001

Allison is really fabulous. Yes, I will remember her as a redhead rock girl from AI. I Like her music too. Allison has room to grow. She is young. Best of luck in 2010.

Kris is awesome. He is focus and he is very happy. Kris will be great in whatever he does in 2010. Best wishes for him.

Adam, Adam, Adam !!! I don’t know what to say. People, listen to this interview for yourselves. What not to love !!!

The Pechanga Casino has been tweeting all afternoon in preparation for David Cook’s concert. Here’s a twitpic of the stage.

Concert Venue

A little light-hearted fun for the day’ ¦ Jim C. got a Christmas present from Kris’s mom’ ¦

Where was Michael Slezak when all this insanity was going down?

I actually haven’t figured out exactly why Adam is polarizing. Been trying to figure it out since the season started. High notes and big ‘ol voice is the best I’ve come up with. I don’t really understand what theatrical means in context of the show, except thought was put into the whole presentation of a song.

I don’t think he’s polarizng because he’s fabulous though

Reminder:

The topic is NOT the thead. I’m editing and deleting off-topic posts.

It’s OK if you think so but I personally think David Cook is fabulous. Does that make him polarizing too?

I think Adam’s considered polarizing because people who don’t care for him are willing to expend an extraordinary amount of pixels, ink and airtime talking about why they DON’T like him. When you add the people who do like him and are willing to spend tons of time talking about that as well, that’s a lot of Adam.

It mystifies me a little. I know when someone is talking about something I’m not interested in or even something that I dislike, I skip it. I don’t even read it, let alone comment about it. But while many people love Adam, there is also something about him that seems to really piss people off. I like David Cook, I may not have been super invested, but I was totally rooting for him last year. He’s a fantastic musician. And as far as I can tell, he has tons of people who love him. But he doesn’t seem to piss people off to the same extent.

And I must say as a fan of the person who seems to polarize people, it gets downright unpleasant. I often don’t have a thick enough skin to keep hearing people say negative things about someone that I admire without taking a few days blog break. Idol sets up this fierce competition, and then once the season is over, even though the winner and the rest of the finalists are competing in the real music world and not really with each other, the fans can’t seem to let it go. It’s such a weird psychological phenomenon, and I’m not by any means immune.

Anyway, I wish the best for everyone. And I’m also looking forward to AI9, although probably for different reasons.

Ouch.
Denver metromix considers Kris, Taylor, and Jordin 3 of the 20 biggest flops of 2009.
Kris is flop #1 and Taylor flop #2. Ouch.

Hope this has not already been posted. Another article citing Adam’s many accomplishments in 2009!http://www.examiner.com/x-4107-International-LGBT-Issues-Examiner~y2009m12d29-Adam-Lambert-ruled-2009

And Adam seems like a nice guy too.

Sorry, I don’t know how to fix the above link:(

I’m catching up here after being away for awhile, so apologies if this has been answered already. Does anyone know how long Kris and Allison’s sets will be for or how many songs they’ll perform on NYE?

I don’t actually think it’s Adam himself that’s the problem; it is – and always has been – the extreme hype.

He himself seems to be a talented and likeable person.

In himself, I wish him success.

But the press and publicity around him twists facts and sublimates the truth to sell him as a ‘star’, before he has actually done anything to justify it.

Now, I know that for a fan that is fantastic: though if I were a huge fan of his, it would make me nervous, in truth.

But as an interested observer, it is very off putting – very. Just as it’s off putting when Paris Hilton gets ridiculous hype, though Adam does at least have talent.

I prefer hype to be based on reality and I prefer analysis to be based on facts, when it comes to the media: though I’m not innocent enough to believe that this is what happens in any shape or form.

And the sad thing about following Idol online is that it has really driven home just how much the media tries to shape the perception of success and failure according to their own vision – and that sucks, IMO.

So far as personal preferences: I don’t like Adam’s performance style on TV. Caught a bit of the Dance show WDYWFM and thought that, yet again, he was overdoing it and over emoting: nothing genuine at all, in my opinion. And I find that very off putting visually. In fact, I couldn’t watch it all the way through.

Added to that, that whilst I love some pop songs and even some pop albums (though not very many) I am far, far more of an alternative music fan.

It is right to say that different tastes don’t usually polarise the reaction – normally people just shrug their shoulders and ignore what they don’t like. But if something is constantly shoved under your nose and people keep loudly telling you that this thing is the ‘next.big.thing’ and that it is unique/diffrerent/amazing etc…then it will attract your attention and if you’re own reaction is kind of a confused ‘meh’, then it does tend to polarise the audience somewhat.

the press and publicity around him twists facts and sublimates the truth to sell him as a ‘star’, before he has actually done anything to justify it.

Now, I know that for a fan that is fantastic: though if I were a huge fan of his, it would make me nervous, in truth.

But as an interested observer, it is very off putting ‘“ very. Just as it’s off putting when Paris Hilton gets ridiculous hype, though Adam does at least have talent.

I prefer hype to be based on reality and I prefer analysis to be based on facts, when it comes to the media: though I’m not innocent enough to believe that this is what happens in any shape or form.

And the sad thing about following Idol online is that it has really driven home just how much the media tries to shape the perception of success and failure according to their own vision ‘“ and that sucks, IMO.

So far as personal preferences: I don’t like Adam’s performance style on TV. Caught a bit of the Dance show WDYWFM and thought that, yet again, he was overdoing it and over emoting: nothing genuine at all, in my opinion. And I find that very off putting visually. In fact, I couldn’t watch it all the way through.

Added to that, that whilst I love some pop songs and even some pop albums (though not very many) I am far, far more of an alternative music fan.

It is right to say that diffreent tastes don’t usually polarise the reaction ‘“ normally people just shrug their shoulders and ignore what they don’t like. But if something is constantly shoved under your nose and people keep loudly telling you that this thing is the ‘next.big.thing’ and that it is unique/diffrerent/amazing etc’ ¦then it will attract your attention and if you’re own reaction is kind of a confused ‘meh’, then it does tend to polarise the audience somewhat.

THIS

I do think, at least from my informal polling of relatives during Christmas get-togethers, that a lot of people HAVE heard about Adam outside the AI bubble, and, whether planned or not, it was because of the AMA performance.

Well, since you brought it up . . . I did get to experience (from relatives ages 12-25 and then 35 and up) some minor discussion of Adam during the holidays and they were uniformly negative. Somehow or other, they got to discussing Adam and basically thought he was trying too hard, was arrogant and were generally mocking him. And those that didin’t say anything, just kind of gave looks that showed their distaste. And no, I don’t think my family is particularly homophobic either, especially since we have older family members (uncles) who are out and far as I can tell, were never in. I have HUGE family (about 30 or so of us at our Christmas Eve party) so their reactions were very telling to me — especially since some of them are not at all AI watchers.

This is now the second time I’ve run into people in my circle that kind of brought up Adam out of the blue and then had negative reactions.

But,for sure, he has reached some people outside of the AI bubble, although whether that is good or bad thing at this point (i.e., persona/antics currently overshadowing musicall accomplishments), I’m not quite ready to give a verdict yet.

I can see being turned off by Adam’s performance style, different strokes for different folks and all that. So if you already don’t like him, I can see the media coverage being irritating. But why do you assume that it is all “hype” and not at least partially made of people in the media who genuinely respond differently to Adam than you do? Considering how Adam seems to charm anyone who comes within a 10 foot radius of him, it’s entirely possible.

And if you liked Adam initially, and let yourself be influenced negatively by perceived “hype” how is that different that being influenced positively by perceived “hype” — either way you’re letting an external force determine your opinion, rather than deciding for yourself.

That is the exact same way as my family, Keel. Of coarse it was at Thanksgiving right after the AMAs. I can’t think of one person who hasn’t watched AI and has heard of AL. But they do remember “that guy at the AMAs”.

But,for sure, he has reached some people outside of the AI bubble, although whether that is good or bad thing at this point (i.e., persona/antics currently overshadowing musicall accomplishments), I’m not quite ready to give a verdict yet.

Me neither. I’ve had the same experience in my family. My son was a big fan until the AMA’s and refused to take the CD I bought him. My daughter took the CD but considers him to be weird now. I’m still a big fan but will reserve judgement on whether he can be successful as a male pop star in this country. I don’t doubt at all that he can make it overseas though and believe he will. I do think his album sales are extremely good for someone who is so polarizing and, to me, it means that he does have enough talent and the “it” factor to overcome how polarizing he is. I believe only Adam could have broken through the music industry as an openly gay man who is very sexual and flamboyant because he has so many things going for him such as his incredible voice, his looks, his personality, and his stage presence. It will be interesting to see where 2010 takes him.

GLEE to Feature Episode of Original Music in Next Installment

GLEE creator Ryan Murphy has revealed to Billboard.com that the next installment of GLEE, beginning April 13, 2010 on Fox at 9pm, will feature a whole episode of original music.

Says Murphy:”I’ve had a lot of calls from songwriters, to the point where it’s kind of embarrassing and ridiculous,” he says. “So we’re writing an episode called ‘Original Song’ where the teacher asks the kids to write their own piece of music. Diane Warren is going to do two big ballads, and if it works, we’ll see what happens . . . but we won’t do it all the time.”

http://www.broadwayworld.com

soverymel

I didn’t like Adam particularly on AI, but I didn’t dislike him either. I acknowleged his stage presence and vocal range, whilst disliking his over emoting and end song wail.

I certainly thought he was the strongest performer on AI and though my favourite was actually Allison, I thought Adam should probably win.

But, to be honest, I watched AI8 through a haze of AI7: it never really connected with me beyond a passing interest.

What I do remember is thinking that the judges reaction to Adam was ridiculously over the top!

Since then, it took me a while, but I did buy his album. I played it about 4 or 5 times after purchase and quite liked a few songs, but haven’t played it since. If it crops up in the mix on my ipod, I don’t move it on, but I don’t seek it out. In other words, it’s fine, but not outstanding and that is OK.

For me, it would have been fine if the media had stated that they loved Adam on Idol and were excited to see what he would do and how far he would go. It was fine that they liked/loved the album. But they went far, far beyond that and are now twisting facts and ignoring truths about what are solid, but not exciting real sales facts to continue saying that he was a huge break out star of 2009.

No – he wasn’t; not in real terms beyond the pages of their feverish blogs, magazines and paper columns.

He may be a break out star of 2010 – and if he is he will have earned the hype.

But I’m afraid that the forcing of the perception of ‘Adam Lambert: huge star’ onto popular consciousness, by proclaiming the fact, before it is true and whilst most of the US seems to be either indifferent or oblivious, has turned the whole thing sour, for me.

I can’t think of one person who hasn’t watched AI and has heard of him.

Want to know something funny….I know people who have never heard of Taylor Hicks or Jordin Sparks or David Archuleta or David Cook or Kris Allen. And sometimes when I mention Kris the response is about the guy who won Idol because the American public didn’t want Adam for whatever reason.

Not being known outside of an Idol blog or the Idol bubble is not only about Adam….all of the Idols are affected by this. Ask a stranger what Kris Allen’s single is titled and they will look back at you with a blank stare.

Now, if an Idol is able to get some media hype why should they be automatically dissed. Celebrities aren’t the ones deciding who should be written about…unless you send out a press release or get arrested. The media has their own agenda and they will cover what they want when they want to. And if they think that someone should be buzzed about or that peeps show enough interest so that they can be buzzed about then buzz they will.

The media can cover whatever they damn well please…and because they choose to cover one person and not another is their choice regardless of how the average joe may see it.

Well, since you brought it up . . . I did get to experience (from relatives ages 12-25 and then 35 and up) some minor discussion of Adam during the holidays and they were uniformly negative.

I found just the opposite in my circle of family and friends. Few of them even watched the AMAs. Everyone thought the hoopla surrounding the performance was due to the guy on guy kiss and thought it was all ridiculous. Most were interested in what his album was like and the ones that had heard WWFM on the radio or saw him perform on SYTYCD, Leno, or Conan really loved the song. Many commented on what an interesting and nice looking guy he was.

The media has their own agenda and they will cover what they want when they want to. And if they think that someone should be buzzed about or that peeps show enough interest so that they can be buzzed about then buzz they will.

THIS! I keep asking what idol, past or present, would pass up the attention that Adam has recieved from the media? Hell, what artist would pass on it?

I get people disagreeing with the judges and the media coverage, but Adam didn’t write those articles or put words in their mouths. Hard to hold it against him.

That being said, Adam does have a long road ahead of him, but I’m sure he’s up for the challenge.

The media can cover whatever they damn well please

Yep, they can – and the public can roll their eyes as much as they damn well please in response. :lol

Actually, despite the annoyance, one of the most reassuring things about the whole media hype thing is that the US public seems to completely ignore it and buy what they like regardless.

And, in truth, if Lambert does break through next year, it will ultimately be because people have heard and liked his music.

But the media bias definitely gets in the way.

It’s not just Lambert – I always instinctively react against and am loath to give a chance to things that are over hyped, unless I try them and really love them.

I had a huge crush on Russell Crowe not so long back (!) – and still think he’s a great actor, even though the scales have fallen from the eyes in other regards, shall we say… But it was actually some time after A Beautiful Mind that I became interested: the post Gladiator hype put me off for ages.

Well, since you brought it up . . . I did get to experience (from relatives ages 12-25 and then 35 and up) some minor discussion of Adam during the holidays and they were uniformly negative. Somehow or other, they got to discussing Adam and basically thought he was trying too hard, was arrogant and were generally mocking him. And those that didin’t say anything, just kind of gave looks that showed their distaste.

That’s the trouble with anecdotal evidence. We all experience different things. My family had a lively conversation about that “AMA guy” LOL and — with the exception of my Aunt’s new boyfriend — all generations from my Grandma to the high school age cousins were pro Adam. Only the high school cousins and their parents (and me) knew Adam from Idol, to the rest he was brand new. Basically they thought the performance took balls and was more entertaining than anything else that night except Gaga and JLo’s fall. Heh, the new boyfriend got a bit rough introduction to the family when he made the standard “what about the children” objection and the family — including his date, my aunt — just laughed at him. They were like, duh, that’s what Tivo is for, moron. Poor guy thought he’d be scoring points and it backfired.

I had resolved before going to keep my mouth shut about my, um, interest in Adam, since I find it a little embarrassing how invested I am, so I kept quiet during the whole fascinating conversation. But later when we opened gifts and the two high school age girls each got the FYE CD and were so psyched that they replaced our standard background Christmas music with Adam and started bopping around to Music Again, I just could not keep my mouth shut and started talking to them about the music. LOL all of a sudden I was the cool cousin who knew shit about Adam Lambert.

soverymel, absolutely agree on your mystification on why so many people seem to spend so much energy and time on someone they hate or find really annoying.

I had caught Adam once or twice on Idol, but it was only after all fuss on the AMAs, that I googled him and was completely blown away at the hatred. The intensity was incredible. He sang a song on an silly awards show, nobody got hurt and rumour has it that one or 2 of us even liked it

I don’t know if the strong feelings he provokes is because; he’s too flamboyant, too gay, too sexual, screams/wails/whatever, too much a famewhore, too ridiculous – just too much and refuses to apologize for it. He may have lost fans/maybe fans, but he also gained some of us too.

*sorry if pages have flown by since soverymel posted last and is this is now out of place, I’m multi-tasking i.e working, at least in theory.

I don’t understand the ‘if somebody praises someone I can’t like them’ reasoning at all. Why wouldn’t you want someone you like to be praised? Assuming you liked them to begin with. I certainly wouldn’t let it sway my direction the other way.

Sounds like someone going against their parents or something, lol

Why wouldn’t you want someone you like to be praised? Assuming you liked them to begin with

If I loved them, then I would be thrilled: I think I said above that, as an Adam fan, I would love the press he’s getting, but that even then it would make me nervous. The press is notorious for picking up a new toy only to drop and destroy it if it doesn’t work the way it should.

But to the non-fan or to the indifferent, it can be off putting – especially if the reality doesn’t seem to match the hype. At least in the Crowe example I gave, he had just starred in a massive box office hit when the media storm hit. And I loved Gladiator when it was released, but just didn’t buy into the hype.

Lambert’s media storm was based on air – and even now that there is some substance building behind it and he sells music, that reality lags far behind the image that is being built.

I just don’t like being manipulated and led by the nose…

Well I get not liking the way the media can latch onto stories and run it into the ground, I especially feel that way if I don’t like the person they’re talking incessantly about, the Gosselins are a prime example of that for me. I also have from my earlier days an attitude where if something I like that is unknown/lesser known gets ‘discovered,’ that it wasn’t as cool anymore. I got peeved at that, but I’ve grown beyond that attitude.

But letting the media hype get in the way of my liking art? nyah. Either I like what’s produced, or I don’t. Again, if I don’t like it, than I will find it irksome when I have to see references to it all the time or how great it is when I disagree. I will say that if something is hyped and doesn’t live up to it, I’ll say that. But I won’t dislike it because of that. I’ll just say that I think it didn’t live up to the hype and is overrated to me. But that still doesn’t shape liking or disliking what I read, see, listen to. I wouldn’t want to give the media that much sway over me. Screw them, they’re not good enough these days to deserve that.

Mileage clearly varies here.

Not to change the subject, but I laughed out loud when I saw this headline on NPR’s Monkee See blog this morning. I just knew everybody’s “favorite show” would get a prominent mention.

The Worst Music Trend Of The Decade: Yahoos Waving Giant Signs At Concerts

As with a lot of things that people have taken to complaining about in the past ten years, re: music, it seems to have happened as a result of American Idol. To be sure, signage is an annoyance even there, distilling the contestants’ appeal down to whose fans can make glitter rhyme the best. [Ed. Note: And by encouraging women to call themselves "cougars" on purpose. But ... please go on.] Still, the show provides a context where signs at least make sense as props being used to pump up the appearance of the competition in a telegenic (if cheap) manner.

Truthiness – thank you.

But I won’t dislike it because of that. I’ll just say that I think it didn’t live up to the hype and is overrated to me

ITA – you’ve just summed up my feeling far more succinctly than I am capable of doing in my rather rambly way.

I believe that Lambert does not live up to the hype and is overrated.

I do not dislike him or his music; I just don’t think that either he or his music are that great.

I dislike the hype and that puts me off supporting him and encourages me to comment on this blog: but it is the hype that I dislike – not Lambert himself.

I actually feel kind of indifferent about him.

Edit: supporting isn’t quite the right word, but I can’t think of a better way of saying it. I don’t particularly like Archie’s music, for example, but I wish him well and have a ‘supportive feeling’ towards his career, nothing more active than that.

Can’t wait for Cookie’s album. Yes someone has tweeted him about the Philippines Male of the Year Artist.

But the press and publicity around him twists facts and sublimates the truth to sell him as a ‘star’, before he has actually done anything to justify it

I think many people/press are excited about the vocal range because of all of the autotuned stuff out there. There aren’t a lot of “young” big male rock/pop voices out there are there?

Also, in regards to the “I asked my family what they thought of Adam or Kris” posts, the family reactions always seems to mirror the poster’s views. I have yet to read a “my family loves Adam” from a poster who hates Adam and ditto with the “my family loves Kris” from a poster who hates Kris.

Ouch.
Denver metromix considers Kris, Taylor, and Jordin 3 of the 20 biggest flops of 2009.
Kris is flop #1 and Taylor flop #2. Ouch.

wow….

It’s not just Lambert ‘“ I always instinctively react against and am loath to give a chance to things that are over hyped, unless I try them and really love them.

Fadetowhite, I guess I do understand that. I mean, nobody likes to be told how to think. But as far as the judges on the show went, since I had such an overwhelmingly positive reaction to Adam’s performances, their reactions didn’t seem out of line to me at all. But I can imagine how you must have felt, because I did feel a similar disconnect between how I reacted to Danny’s performances and how the judges praised him. I’ve since come to the conclusion after seeing the Idols concert live (incredible!) that we the TV viewer may actually lose something in the translation over the screen, and that it wasn’t ALL producer manipulation, in fact some of those performances that seemed overpraised simply lost something going from the live in-the-room electricity to our screens. And yep, I’m totally including Danny in that assumption. I have to say, the Top 4 live in concert were a revelation.

As for the post-show stuff, it’s a little ironic, in that all the media coverage is SO much more evident to those of us that choose to follow Idol stuff on the internet. Unless you come to MJ’s or other Idol blogs, most people only see a fraction of what is out there. I mean there’s been tons of stuff on Adam since the finale, but he only impinged on most of my family’s consciousness once he entered THEIR sphere of interest (they have a bizarre love of awards shows). Only then was he interesting to them, LOL.

soverymel, absolutely agree on your mystification on why so many people seem to spend so much energy and time on someone they hate or find really annoying.

I had caught Adam once or twice on Idol, but it was only after all fuss on the AMAs, that I googled him and was completely blown away at the hatred. The intensity was incredible. He sang a song on an silly awards show, nobody got hurt and rumour has it that one or 2 of us even liked it

Thanks, Lyssa!

And WORD to your second paragraph. I finally had to stop looking at comments on youtube and some of the entertainment media comments, so often they’re just hateful completely out of proportion to whatever is being discussed. Especially when it comes to the AMAs. Like you said, one song on a silly show, and no one got hurt. But you’d never know it to read them. My biggest problem is that I tend to weirdly empathize with Adam and his family — I imagine Adam, or his Mom, or his Dad reading those awful things and I just cringe imagining how awful it must feel to hear things like that about yourself, or your child. Ugh.

Sometimes I wonder if the media’s love affair with Adam is the universe’s way of providing instant karma for all the ugly stuff that continues to permeate the internet. Judging from people’s reactions here, perhaps the universe isn’t doing him any favors with this. Oh well.

That’s the trouble with anecdotal evidence. We all experience different things. My family had a lively conversation about that ‘AMA guy’  LOL and ‘” with the exception of my Aunt’s new boyfriend ‘” all generations from my Grandma to the high school age cousins were pro Adam.

You are right. It’s probably a lot like radio play — some people will come here and say they don’t know anyone who has heard of so and so on the radio and another will pipe and say they hear them all the time where they live. It’s all about what cities they live in and what format they are listening to.

My family are primarily pop music listeners (basically, you can blame them for all the crap pop music you hear on radio because they LOVE it) and were just looking at Adam from a very superficial, passing interest sort of way and were not really looking at it from the controversy / censorship standpoint. They basically could care less about the controversy but seemed to be judging him based on what they saw/heard. They just thought he wasn’t very good and, to add insult to injury (in their mind), he “dared” mention himself in the same breath as the big pop superstars in the news bites that they heard afterwards (thus, their take that he was arrogant and trying too hard).

I’m in the group that thinks the massive hype has been a large part of the polarization. Clearly, a great many in the entertainment/media really wanted him to succeed because they liked the story of an openly gay artist succeeding and shaking up stereotypes. And as far as it goes, it’s understandable and laudable. We like to see myths exploded and people triumph over discrimination. And, he’s not my cup of tea, but Adam is an impressive vocalist. So I can see why people got excited.

But in the zeal to promote Adam and what he symbolizes, I think they over-sold and over-hyped. It was pushed as a seemingly absolute fact that Adam was the best ever contestant to be on Idol, was in fact bigger than Idol, and if you didn’t like him you either had no taste in music or, worse, were homophobic. That kind of absolute and volatile rhetoric makes people defensive and makes them more engaged in voicing their disagreement then they otherwise would be. Then add that to the fact that for some in the media (and I want to stress it is only some), the build up of Adam came with a mean-spirited tear down of Kris. People got pissed.

Personally, I’m a little burned out by both the hype and counter-hype. At this point all I can say is that Adam is clearly making his fans deeply happy with what he does and getting new people interested in music. And that is a good thing. May he continue to have success so he can keep making music and keep giving his many fans pleasure.

Also, in regards to the ‘I asked my family what they thought of Adam or Kris’  posts, the family reactions always seems to mirror the poster’s views. I have yet to read a ‘my family loves Adam’  from a poster who hates Adam and ditto with the ‘my family loves Kris’  from a poster who hates Kris.

We talked about Adam at Christmas – One sister said he was disgusting on the AMAs, another said he went to far, but she’s still a fan. They looked up the performance on my nieces iphone and the gasps and omgs were quite funny. All in all they didn’t care for the AMAs but they are still interested in him, each on different levels… I’m the extreme fan

Kris only came up once, I was in the car with my sister and LLWD came on the radio, she changed the station. I asked why and she said the song annoys her.

Ouch.
Denver metromix considers Kris, Taylor, and Jordin 3 of the 20 biggest flops of 2009.
Kris is flop #1 and Taylor flop #2. Ouch.

Serious ouch.

On another note.. I am sympathetic to those that are greatly annoyed by the hype. I don’t buy into it much either.. but I must confess that I am also greatly annoyed by the constant discussion of it within the idol bubble. Outside the bubble… despite how important we think the idols are, the ‘hype’ barely raises an eyebrow.

How can Time Warner afford to lose Fox? We already switched a few months ago and saved money by putting our cable on with the internet and phone via Verizon. I’m sure a lot of people will have the incentive to switch if they lose some favorite programs.

(Just felt a earthquake, a small jolt here.)

Off to see Rick Springfield, have fun!

What the heck is going on with the AOL Sessions this year? First Allison, now Kris?

We apologize for the Kris Allen Session not being up. There has been some
legal issues that have not permitted us to put them up. Hopefully we will
be able to put them up soon.

Sincerely,
AOL Music

What legal issues could they have? Kris performed all music off his album except for O Holy Night — and that song must be in the public domain. Unless maybe Kris’ drummer is still signed with another label (he is/was the drummer for Reel Big Fish) — that’s the only thing I could think of.

This is VERY frustrating.

Girlygirl… first I heard of this. Can’t be the drummer. If Allison is having issue too, that would rule the drummer out.

I looked at the Denver Metromix thing — to them “flop” = not meeting expectations. And it is just in relation to album sales. Some of the people listed on there actually have sold very well this year.

sr4mjc
12/30/2009 at 7:21 pm

Off to see Rick Springfield, have fun!

Saw him two summers ago, he’s fantastic live. You will have a blast.

There is a nice/cute quote from Ellen Degeneres in People about Adam

“Speaking of American Idol, Adam Lambert amazed me this year. I realized that when he came on my show. He was sitting next to me talking openly about being a gay man. I don’t think we’re used to seeing that on TV. It wasn’t a stereotype. It wasn’t a joke. He was just being honest. And he told me if I keep my nail polish in the refrigrator, that it will go on smoother. Did you know that?”

And he told me if I keep my nail polish in the refrigrator, that it will go on smoother. Did you know that?’ 

No, I didn’t know that, thanks Adam and Ellen for the tip!! (and thanks Squirrely for posting)

Although I usualy get my pedicures done at the salon, still good to know for those touch-ups this summer…

Also, in regards to the ‘I asked my family what they thought of Adam or Kris’  posts, the family reactions always seems to mirror the poster’s views.

Really? Because in my two encounters (one shortly before Thanksgiving with friends and then this past Christmas holiday with family), they actually brought up Adam without my prompting. In both situations, they were already talking about Adam even before I even entered the room/restaurant. That’s why I can’t make up my mind whether their negative reactions but awareness of him is a good thing or a bad thing. Obviously, they are talking about him — which is good — but they have a negative opinion — which is bad as they are not likely to buy albums/singles/go to concerts.

In any event, though Adam is not my cuppeh, I am rooting for him because of all he represents and I think he’s a very likeable person. I am, however, quite taken aback by the generally negative view that a couple of my friends and a large portion of my extended family seem to have towards him. Now, sinceI’m not an actual Adam fan, I don’t go out on a limb to defend him (and really, why should I, since it’s really just an opinion anyway). That said, I don’t really think it’s fair to paint people with a broad brush and say that if they hear something negative from family/friends and then bring it here (and I only brought it here because someone else mentioned Adam being known outside the bubble and I wanted to relay my experience of that outside-the-bubble perception), then they must hold negative views on Adam as well.

Kris tweeted about his gig tonight

KrisAllen

Anybody in Vegas want to come to a show at BB Kings Club @ Mirage? This guy is playing named kris Allen

Adam isn’t the first, nor will he be the last to have peeps think negatively of him. Many people think Lady GaGa is almost insane, J-Lo is scorned for her ample butt, we won’t even discuss what people think of Amy Winehouse or Madonna for that matter.

John Lennon was not well thought of after his Jesus Christ comment, Prince had always had his detractors, Eminem and Kanye (’nuff said).

Not liking a singer is not just brought up in the idoldome. Real life singers have their haters too….so to say someone is not doing well because they aren’t “well liked” out in the world is pretty far fetched and really has no validity of meaning as far as their success or failure. For, I am sure, for everyone that Hates a Singer, there is a someone that loves them to pieces. That’s life!

For, I am sure, for everyone that Hates a Singer, there is a someone that loves them to pieces. That’s life!

ITA, Tess, and, in fact, I think those entertainers who are so polarizing are often the most famous because of those strong emotions they evoke that make people want to talk about them.

Kris’s tweet reminded me of a story his mom told about his AI homecoming visit – how she and Katy were brainstorming ways that they could fill audiences so it would look good on TV, and as it turned out 20,000 out on their own and shocked them all (Don’t cry, Mama!).

I think if I were Kris, the fact that this is a no pre-purchase event would give me that scared thought in the back of my mind that nobody will show up – you know, the same part of your brain that causes you to have a nightmare about showing up naked to the first day of school.

I’m hoping he gets an awesome crowd. Anybody know what the capacity of the BB King venue is?

ETA: Found my own answer. According to this website, the capacity is 558 seats.
http://thedeadhub.com/b-b-king%E2%80%99s-blues-club-now-open-at-the-mirage/

Well as for being polarizing, there is a saying about love and hate being more similiar than disinterest.

I believe that Lambert does not live up to the hype and is overrated.

You are allowed your opinion, as are the people who feel the other way, so I don’t get what the issue is.

On another note.. I am sympathetic to those that are greatly annoyed by the hype. I don’t buy into it much either.. but I must confess that I am also greatly annoyed by the constant discussion of it within the idol bubble. Outside the bubble’ ¦ despite how important we think the idols are, the ‘hype’ barely raises an eyebrow.

That is my feeling exactly. On this blog EVERY article about him is posted in one place. It might seem overwhelming and the hype might seem OTT, but only in this very myopic idol bubble. If the hype is bothersome maybe it’s just better to ignore it. If he turns out to be a flash in the pan, then that’s it. If he blows up, what happens then?

“I’m hoping he gets an awesome crowd”

Usually these events that don’t do pre-purchase don’t have problem with people attending. I think he’ll have an awesome crowd and I’m glad it’s not going to be his already made fans.

z-100 interactive 9 at 9 is on, Adam was #1yst, I wonder if he is on today again.

I can like and admire how “out” Adam Lambert is as a gay man but still have no interest in watching him, listening to him, or reading about him. The more people say I should like his music cause he’s so brave or groundbreaking or whatever – well, that doesn’t change the fact that his style just does not interest me at all.

Nice write up on MSN

http://music.msn.com/music/year-in-review/hits-and-misses/?photoidx=10&silentchk=1

I can like and admire how ‘out’  Adam Lambert is as a gay man but still have no interest in watching him, listening to him, or reading about him. The more people say I should like his music cause he’s so brave or groundbreaking or whatever ‘“ well, that doesn’t change the fact that his style just does not interest me at all.

Who is saying you should?

I can like and admire how ‘out’  Adam Lambert is as a gay man but still have no interest in watching him, listening to him, or reading about him. The more people say I should like his music cause he’s so brave or groundbreaking or whatever ‘“ well, that doesn’t change the fact that his style just does not interest me at all.

That’s understandable, I feel the same way about some other idols that I feel are over rated and not so talented, I just don’t comment on them at all, certainly I don’t spend hours talking about how I don’t like them. I think that just perpetuates the hype. Maybe the best course of action would be not to say beetlejuice at all?

Squirrely
12/30/2009 at 9:17 pm
Nice write up on MSN

http://music.msn.com/music/year-in-review/hits-and-misses/?photoidx=10&silentchk=1

Thank you for posting, very nice, and they used one of my favorite photos.

Wow, Daughtry scores New Years Rockin Eve again. Pretty awesome for him.

Nice write up on MSN

Very nice write up, and great pic too! Love the jacket and vest, berry, berry nice.

Why does that MSN article talk about “gender bending?” Adam doesn’t seem, ever, like a girl, to me. He’s definitely a dude, and has always presented that way, eyeliner or not. Also, “androgynous” has been used before, and I don’t get that. Bill K might be androgynous, but no. Justin Bieber, androgynous. LOL.

fadetowhite, I get what you are saying, except I’m shocked you went ahead and bought FYE. Four for you!

My two cents about Adam hype, a lot of media buzz has been about things he’s doing or about to do, or has actually done. Thinking he’s overrated is justified. Interesting about counter-hype. I don’t know why media’s obsessed with him, except that he’s a really good interview, photogenic, and has had many, many industry people acknowledge his talent, voice and work ethic. So it seems that’s some goodwill from years toiling in the industry? Hometown Hollywood cheerleading, which led to stuff like the Young Hollywood Award (maybe premature before his album, but whatever).

Random thought – I really wish AI would let more of the season’s videos stay on YT. Wouldn’t Adam and Kris’s two most well known performances – Mad World and Heartless – gone majorly viral and helped, ultimately, get them known outside of AI? I’m thinking of the millions of views of Ke$ha, Bieber, Boyle, Gaga’s Bad Romance, etc.

wellhesback
12/30/2009 at 9:09 pm
I can like and admire how ‘out’  Adam Lambert is as a gay man but still have no interest in watching him, listening to him, or reading about him. The more people say I should like his music cause he’s so brave or groundbreaking or whatever ‘“ well, that doesn’t change the fact that his style just does not interest me at all.

OK…no “watching , listenig or reading”…but writing, writing ,writing? Shakespeare might say “the lady doth protest to much, methinks”

If you adore Adam, you won’t think he’s overrated and overhyped. You’ll think all the excitement is completely and totally justified and appropriate and consistent with how you feel. People don’t “hype” Adam just because they have nothing better to do, they do it because he engenders passion in them. It’s a real thing.

If you are indifferent to him or don’t like him, you won’t understand people’s excitement because you don’t feel it. You’ll call it hype. Your internal experience doesn’t match the excitement and passion you see Adam engender in other people. Adam doesn’t generate that passion in you, so other people’s excitement seems false or unnatural.

That’s fine. But regardless, the passion inspired by Adam is real in other people even if you don’t feel it. It’s not “hype” to them, it’s reality.

In the end, it’s all a matter of perception.

I read and write about AL, although I don’t consider myself a fan, because he is a hot topic of conversation. If you enjoy the back and forth kind of debate, it can be had about the topic of Adam Lambert. Too much of one opinion is boring to read and to participate in. If there is much praise, expect some leavening of the praise, at least in the name of conversation. Admittedly, when you are detached, it is kind of fun to watch those who are invested become more vigorous. Ahem.

Although I am not a fan, I certainly don’t “hate” the man, and recognize that he has talent. This does not mean he makes the kind of music I enjoy. However, discussing him will most definitely incite a conversation, especially in AI circles. The more fans one has, the more they invite a counterbalance of opinion.

Why does that MSN article talk about ‘gender bending?’ 

I think it mostly comes from Adam’s reaction to people frequently saying he’s “too feminine,” like in the Rolling Stone article where he reacts by saying there’s nothing wrong with displaying both masculine and feminine characteristics. Add that to his frequent dramatic eye makeup, his slinky dancing on tour and the FYE album cover and I guess you could conceivably call some of what he does gender bending, in that he’s not concerned whether something he does is typically masculine or feminine, but if it feels right to him.

How can Time Warner afford to lose Fox? We already switched a few months ago and saved money by putting our cable on with the internet and phone via Verizon. I’m sure a lot of people will have the incentive to switch if they lose some favorite programs.

I live in NYC and though Verizon’s television service is being slowly rolled out here, unfortunately it’s not yet available where I live, so I’m going to have to go out and buy one of those converter boxes if I want to watch Fox after tomorrow. I’m really PO’d.

So it seems that’s some goodwill from years toiling in the industry? Hometown Hollywood cheerleading, which led to stuff like the Young Hollywood Award (maybe premature before his album, but whatever).

You know, I never thought of that, but you’re right! The Hollywood peeps are just as narrow and parochial as they accuse people from other parts of the country of being.

Dang Adam is on all kinds of lists – add Vanity Fair to the lists of lists.

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/style/2009/12/15-songs-to-ring-in-2010.html#entry-more

correct link

I live in NYC and though Verizon’s television service is being slowly rolled out here, unfortunately it’s not yet available where I live, so I’m going to have to go out and buy one of those converter boxes if I want to watch Fox after tomorrow. I’m really PO’d.

Me too. I could shoot someone right now. I’m serious.

Soverymel, thanks, that makes total sense. It’s about perceived notions of what should be masculine or feminine, not that Adam is suddenly a tranny. But I still think the writer is just using a stock phrase without thinking.

Has Simon Cowell ever been asked his thoughts on Adam’s AMA performance? I realize the show is over for him the night of the finale, but I wonder if he’s ever expressed his opinion publicly.

I’m probably repeating myself, but if Adam does any covers for NYE, please let him do Sweet Child of Mine and WLL. I bet his band will kill on those songs, too. I’m looking forward to seeing them shine just as much on NYE on all the songs.

Interesting blog with an interesting paragraph:

http://throwingthings.blogspot.com/2009/12/tribe-has-spoken-its-actually-not-that.html

As I told Alan, I put American Idol 7 (David, David, Clifford the Crunchy Muppet, Michael Johns and Carly Smithson) atop any list of best Idol seasons. The level of talent was great, and the underlying narrative of scrappy, sincere Cook versus The Young David Archuleta Machine was satisfying to watch. Also, that Jason Castro meltdown is one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen. (Last season is a close runner-up; the talent level seems to keep rising on the show even when you’d think they’d have somewhat drained the swamp by now.)

All my Adam buddies, here is a neat family story.
My husband has a Great Uncle who has been with his guy mate for over 30 years. They are retired professionals. When they lived in Houston, they told us they saw a performance of Brigadoon and were just blown away by the talent of a young singer in the show. They
just could not stop talking of him. One of them has been a concert
pianist in his day and still plays. Anyway, they asked about him and found out his name was Adam Lambert. They moved to Palm Springs,
Ca. soon after and went into LA for different shopping, eating, and
other events….and, being a big movie fan of Val Kilmers, went to see
The Ten Commandments…Lo and behold, the same young man just
took over the stage with his vocals and they couldn’t stop talking about him they said for weeks…..well, time goes by and they were involved in
travel, etc….till one evening last year, they flipped on the tube to AI and
were about to tune it to another station when this voice captured them and sure enough..they said, “it’s him”……the song, Feeling Good….Well,
from there on, they watched the show, watched the episodes they hadn’t seen …and, were hooked….They told us hearing his voice in
Brigadoon and TC..and then, these covers he was doing just totally amazed them both. They were able to wrangle tickets to the final somehow and took a niece and nephew with them. They went to the
tour show in LA and have been fans ever since. They didn’t have an inkling that he was gay like them…they thought he was “Gothic” until
he came out. I love this story….they gave a lot of CD’s as gifts to other members of the family and there are a lot of fans of all ages in their
families now…These men are in their early 60′s and have seen Queen,
The Beatles, Elvis and so many my head was spinning. This was my first time to meet them and I just casually mentioned that maybe I had
better switch to The Blend on my sync system in the car, as I wasn’t too sure they wanted to hear Adam Lambert… They just yelled…you gotta be kidding, this is too wonderful that you are a fan too…..My husband said ” I am cooked”…and you two have made her holiday…Needless to say, we are blogging now back and forth with Adam news and I have given them info on MJs…As for their gay friends in their area and others they know….there are just a whole lot of gay people in/out of music industry that appreciate and respect and love
Adam…and, a lot of gay women too….Of course, not everyone they know…but, his music is played a lot in the Palm Springs area/circle
of their friends…..this is a feel good story…..I hope Adam or one of his family members catches this…and, hope you all enjoyed hearing it.
Now, back to Pick U Up..play it on the way to work and like to listen to
it once, at least, in the evening…I really think Master Plan should be his lead off song tomorrow evening….I am getting to love it too….
I hope he does Pick U up on Idol this year and blows the roof off with
that awesome bridge in it….and blows Simon out of his chair too!!!!
Night all!

KLI 9:43 pm …your’s is the post I didn’t know I was staying up to read. So glad I didn’t miss it.
Passion…what a funny thing – whether it’s passion for a love interest, a work of art, a pet, our life’s work, or the view out our window…it’s all personal perception and therefore completely valid to us.

Dang Adam is on all kinds of lists ‘“ add Vanity Fair to the lists of lists.

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/style/2009/12/15-songs-to-ring-in-2010.html#entry-more

Thanks for that link! Why do I get this feeling that FYE is going to grow in popularity? It’s almost like its being “taboo” after the AMAs has made it more intriguing or something. For a song with very little radio play/promo, it’s getting a little following.

Loved that article AndreaH – esp. where the music critic said: “Over the past 12 years, I’ve reviewed more than a thousand theater and opera productions. I can’t name a favorite, but I can count on just two hands the performances at which I knew I was witnessing something extraordinary.”

I’ve made my living in music for well over 20 years (if anyone has heard Michael Buble’s latest CD, I’m one of the musicians on it), and I know exactly the feeling the reporter is talking about. Very occasionally, one gets to work with or hear an artist who is so extraordinary it makes you weak at the knees while giving an adrenaline rush that is unforgetable. I felt that way hearing Adam sing RoF and though I was a fan before that, it was this performance that had me thinking I was witnessing the birth of a new star.

I undertstand the excitement entertainment writers feel when covering Adam. When you’re in the business you see and hear so much sub-standard talent making it big because they look cute/sexy, are marketed by the good folks at Disney, or managed to have a couple hits and then get their subsequant songs played automatically on the radio – no matter how mediocre the singing and the material is – (I’m talking to you, Rihanna).
I think Adam has all the performance and vocal potential of a Lady Gaga and I think it’s high time we had a man doing the kind of theatrical shows that have been dominated for years by the girls.

nvm

Why does that MSN article talk about ‘gender bending?’  Adam doesn’t seem, ever, like a girl, to me. He’s definitely a dude, and has always presented that way, eyeliner or not. Also, ‘androgynous’  has been used before, and I don’t get that. Bill K might be androgynous, but no. Justin Bieber, androgynous. LOL.

There have been pics of Adam wearing women’s clothes on the internet almost since he began on Idol. No matter that he doesn’t usually wear women’s clothes. He wears make up 24/7, has painted nails, he even has them done in a salon. Most guys don’t do this stuff, many women do, so it’s called gender-bending. I don’t see what else you can call it.

For the record I get sick of the big deal that’s made of it in the press. It makes Adam sort of a sideshow. If they want to make a big deal of Adam’s performances or talent, that’s fine. Or his album sales. He certainly deserves it. The rest will get tiresome before too long.

Kelly “Long Shot” (from All I Ever Wanted) was used in an Idol promo.

maggie mae …thank you! Adam’s “Come To Me” from Brigadoon brings me to tears every time…love it.

I’m dreaming of a reprise (is that the right word) of FYE on the PCA – don’t no one wake me up.

KLI’ ¦your’s is the post I didn’t know I was staying up to read. So glad I didn’t miss it.
Passion’ ¦what a funny thing ‘“ whether it’s passion for a love interest, a work of art, a pet, our life’s work, or the view out our window’ ¦it’s all personal perception and therefore completely valid to us.

yes, nice post KLI.

Maggie Mae:

Great story!

I think Adam has all the performance and vocal potential of a Lady Gaga and I think it’s high time we had a man doing the kind of theatrical shows that have been dominated for years by the girls.

There have been a lot of theatrical male performers over the years. Adam is not new under this sun.

The press is notorious for picking up a new toy only to drop and destroy it if it doesn’t work the way it should.

The press wouldn’t waste the ink, the blog space, or the air time, on Adam if they didn’t think he would generate hits, magazine sales, or people tuning in. They don’t care about him and aren’t promoting his career. But Adam gets attention–he sells. When the next big thing comes along, the press will move on.

I am new to Idol this year and didn’t feel that Adam was being shoved on the public by the show. In group numbers he was usually in the back and while others had two or three solo lines, most of the time he just had one–usually the dramatic finish. No wonder so many thought all he did was scream. For as much as Paula gushed, Simon didn’t hesitate to say when he felt the performance was lacking. It was only at the end that it seemed obvious who they thought would win and who they wanted to win, not necessarily the same person. At least that was the way I perceived it.

I plan to watch the re-broadcast of Season 8 from the beginning mainly to see the top ten performers. I started watching on Michael Jackson night and I’m afraid after B & W, I didn’t care about the rest of the group. But after following the Idol tour on MJ’s, I’d like to go back and take another look. I’ve been reading MJ’s archives to see what people were saying after the early episodes so I know what to look for to see if I agree. I’m still undecided about watching Season 9. I have spent way too much time following Season 8.

Mainegal: Awww! Thanks.

I was just thinking . . .

You know what it’s like when two people are in love and can’t stop talking about each other and everybody else in the room is rolling their eyes? That’s really what the whole “Adam is overrated” and “Adam is overhyped” phenomena is all about.

Many Adam fans are totally besotted by him and can’t stop talking about him! They don’t just like him, they are totally and madly in love with the guy. By all accounts, Adam is intensely charismatic and has the ability to charm completely unsuspecting people in the media and elsewhere to such a degree that they go nuts over him. And just like falling in love, not everybody around you has the same feeling!

If you don’t feel the pull, or haven’t totally fallen for him, of course you are going to think he’s overrated and overhyped because all the fangirling and fanboying IS a little embarrassing and ridiculous if you don’t feel it youself. It you do feel it, it’s completely NORMAL!!

What I find so interesting is that Adam inspires so much passion in so many of his fans. How does he do it? What magical combination of skills creates such charisma? Whatever it is, it seems to work its magic on many many people.

I think Adam has all the performance and vocal potential of a Lady Gaga and I think it’s high time we had a man doing the kind of theatrical shows that have been dominated for years by the girls.

There have been a lot of theatrical male performers over the years. Adam is not new under this sun.

Not really, and not for awhile. I think the last of that type of male performer was in the 80s.

“There have been a lot of theatrical male performers over the years. Adam is not new under this sun.”

Agreed! But this type of theatrical male performer has bee nonexistent for say . . . 20 years or so. Adam is trying to bring it back with an updated modern look and feel. The watchword in the mainstream music industry for men is “authenticity” and “sincerity” NOT OTT Glam Theatrical Rock/Pop.

My daughter, who is only 13, says that Adam has rescued the music industry from a lifetime of boring music.

This cracks me up because she is only 13, but she definitely appreciates the difference between Adam’s style and the typical male performer these days.

As always, for those of you who like the current male performers on the pop scene, YMMV. I, on the other hand, like a man who is willing to strut!!

Has this been posted. Because if it has I missed it.
Year in review 2009 – Sudden Fame

Squirrely: I so agree with you. The last time I paid attention to pop music was in the ’80s. The performers were OTT and crazy. It was fun and exciting. I remember during the lunch time break in college watching the MTV music countdown and there would be all these crazy OTT hair bands rocking out. We haven’t had anything crazy and OTT from a male performer in a long time.

from the washington posts express night out blog… humorous and snarky good reading…

We Are Ashamed: 15 Diversions You Helped Flourish in the 2000s
Written by Express’ Greg Barber and Holly J. Morris

FEW ESCAPED THE 2000S with a clear cultural conscience. Here are 15 questionable diversions that you helped to flourish. Please take a moment for silent reflection.

9) Reality TV: From “American Idol” to “Britain’s Got Talent” to “Dancing With the Stars,” ’90s-style reality TV melded with an old-fashioned talent show ethos to create a platform to launch talents as varied as Kelly Clarkson, Susan Boyle, David Archuleta and Chris Daughtry ‘” and even relaunch folks like Paula Abdul and Tom DeLay.

http://www.expressnightout.com/content/2009/12/2000s-trends.php

KLI ..I was just thinking . . .
You know what it’s like when two people are in love and can’t stop talking about each other and everybody else in the room is rolling their eyes?

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder…passion ain’t logical…it has a certain mystery to it that I think is better left to the heart, not the head.

“What I find so interesting is that Adam inspires so much passion in so many of his fans. How does he do it? What magical combination of skills creates such charisma? Whatever it is, it seems to work its magic on many many people.”

KLI..I love your writing!!

This may have been posted earlier, but I didn’t see it.

Guess who makes an appearance (p.25) in The New York Times ArtsBeat blog’s The Arts in 2009? (“A slide show of photographs of cultural events from this year.”)

No mention of his singing, just his “sexually provocative performance.”

The year in pop music was not without controversy: Adam Lambert, far left, gave a sexually provocative performance at the American Music Awards.

Heh, this is a tweet from someone at the David Cook concert tonight:

@thethingiskat: OMG CRYING GIRL IS HERE AND A FEW SEATS DOWN FROM US

lol

From Disney:
From Orlando Theme parks loves David Cook and Carrie Underwood and Kris Allen Check Out #5, #3, # 1 http://bit.ly/5XmUf3

Plus Carrie and David made the top ten pics: http://bit.ly/8BzwrQ

Heh, this is a tweet from someone at the David Cook concert tonight:

@thethingiskat: OMG CRYING GIRL IS HERE AND A FEW SEATS DOWN FROM US

Maybe Sanjaya is there to see Cook, too, and she just caught a glimpse of him!

That tweet about crying girl is just too funny! Poor Dave. Heh

Link to tonight’s cellcast here.

The show hasn’t started just yet.

LOL apparently crying girl saw his brother Andrew and she’s freaking out. How old is this girl now again? Oy. Oh how I’ve missed these cellcerts!

‘What I find so interesting is that Adam inspires so much passion in so many of his fans. How does he do it? What magical combination of skills creates such charisma? Whatever it is, it seems to work its magic on many many people”

This same statement could have been written about a half a dozen Idols than I can think of: Clay Aiken, Constantine, Taylor Hicks, Daughtry, Blake Lewis, David Cook, Idol is known for inspiring mostly women (mostly middle aged) with a complete fan girl dedication to their “guy.”

What’s interesting to me is how the same pattern gets repeated year after year after year. For some people it’s harmless fun. Other people completely rearrange their lives to “stalk” some poor guy they liked on a TV show.

apparently crying girl saw his brother Andrew and she’s freaking out. How old is this girl now again? Oy. Oh how I’ve missed these cellcerts!

Oh geez! LOL

ETA: Show is starting now and in case anyone wants to see them, you can find tonight’s setlist spoilers here.

That’s why there always so much better off when they cross over and get an audience of non Idol fans. Of course some never do and they become jokes. You can tell when they have mostly Idol fans though ‘“ people show up to their concerts in costume and with signs. Sometimes they even gave presents.

I saw that at the Justin Timberlake, Tina Turner and the George Michael concerts I went to, not to mention the Rick Springfield and DelFonics (no signs at the DelFonics though) Those people have nothing to do with idol. Every celebrity have their fanbases certain actions are not limited to AI people.

I edited my post but I’m not talking about wearing T shirts with your fav’s name. I mean regalia plus signs. And I’m not talking teens, I’m talking women in the 40s and 50s. Some even bring Tupperware filled with cookies.

If you adore Adam, you won’t think he’s overrated and overhyped. You’ll think all the excitement is completely and totally justified and appropriate and consistent with how you feel. People don’t ‘hype’  Adam just because they have nothing better to do, they do it because he engenders passion in them. It’s a real thing.

If you are indifferent to him or don’t like him, you won’t understand people’s excitement because you don’t feel it. You’ll call it hype. Your internal experience doesn’t match the excitement and passion you see Adam engender in other people. Adam doesn’t generate that passion in you, so other people’s excitement seems false or unnatural.

GREAT Post!! And its very very very true!

I edited my post but I’m not talking about wearing T shirts with your fav’s name. I mean regalia plus signs. And I’m not talking teens, I’m talking women in the 40s and 50s. Some even bring Tupperware filled with cookies.

Minus the JT concert and the tupperware, I’m taking about older folks too. Some where dressed pretty crazy.

ETA: I don’t get the bringing food – I wouldn’t eat from someone I didn’t know.

ETAA: Aside from concerts, I’m a theater buff and I’ve seen people with the gifts for the actors waiting at the stage doors.

I saw that at the Justin Timberlake, Tina Turner and the George Michael concerts I went to, not to mention the Rick Springfield and DelFonics (no signs at the DelFonics though) Those people have nothing to do with idol. Every celebrity have their fanbases certain actions are not limited to AI people.

Which goes to show you that the people who write this crap don’t go to actual concerts (of any kind) and only write what’s reported to them from Idol performances and certainly not from anyone else’s.

‘What I find so interesting is that Adam inspires so much passion in so many of his fans. How does he do it? What magical combination of skills creates such charisma? Whatever it is, it seems to work its magic on many many people’ 

This same statement could have been written about a half a dozen Idols than I can think of: Clay Aiken, Constantine, Taylor Hicks, Daughtry, Blake Lewis, David Cook, Idol is known for inspiring mostly women (mostly middle aged) with a complete fan girl dedication to their ‘guy.’ 

Yup, that’s the truth. And my own experience is only with David Cook so I’ll speak from there… he has some *seriously* passionate fans, lol. And I’ve said all the same stuff… he got me interested in music again, I’ve never followed an artist so closely, I don’t know what it is about him but he makes you just fall in love… It’s interesting with the Idol guys because they do seem to often engender a pretty darn passionate fanbase and that can be a double-edged sword since some folks… well, overinvested is too kind. And, lol, yes… I’ve seen some *pretty* interesting folks at the shows… the SIGNS, my God I had never seen a sign in my life at a concert before David’s. I remember in VA Beach walking into a sub place to get lunch and seeing three girls at a table making signs – didn’t even have to read ‘em, knew they were for David. Heh. Now, in defense of middle aged women, the sign-bearing girls were not, they were in their 20s I think. And many of the, um, followers who go to every show I believe are in their 20s. But the older fans do seem to corner the market on skeery t-shirts and interesting jewelry.

Idol and the Idol bubble and the fanbase for Idols is pretty darn interesting, I’ll give it that

Oh, and having as I said before managed a local/indie artist… well. He didn’t have scads of fans but he still had some crazies. So it isn’t just Idol, or even famous artists, but Idol fans seem to be easy pickings when it comes time for someone to point and laugh, lol.

I remember in VA Beach walking into a sub place to get lunch and seeing three girls at a table making signs ‘“ didn’t even have to read ‘em, knew they were for David. Heh. Now, in defense of middle aged women, the sign-bearing girls were not, they were in their 20s I think. And many of the, um, followers who go to every show I believe are in their 20s.

Lucky David! That’s the demographic he wants, right?! Heh! (I love when stereotypes are smashed and frankly there is nothing new under the sun. The same thing has occurred since Rudolph Valentino and, later, Frank Sinatra.)

‘What I find so interesting is that Adam inspires so much passion in so many of his fans. How does he do it? What magical combination of skills creates such charisma? Whatever it is, it seems to work its magic on many many people’ 

jpfan:
This same statement could have been written about a half a dozen Idols than I can think of: Clay Aiken, Constantine, Taylor Hicks, Daughtry, Blake Lewis, David Cook, Idol is known for inspiring mostly women (mostly middle aged) with a complete fan girl dedication to their ‘guy.’ 

What’s interesting to me is how the same pattern gets repeated year after year after year. For some people it’s harmless fun. Other people completely rearrange their lives to ‘stalk’  some poor guy they liked on a TV show.

I agree totally with jpfan. Every idol has inspired passion in their fans every year… ssdd.

And, r/e the Cookie cellcast, I really really really miss the tour. Sigh. Listening to “Lie” now.

Oh, and having as I said before managed a local/indie artist’ ¦ well. He didn’t have scads of fans but he still had some crazies. So it isn’t just Idol, or even famous artists, but Idol fans seem to be easy pickings when it comes time for someone to point and laugh, lol.

I know people who follow certain stage actors, go to every show and bring presents to every show. They have traveled around the country to attend whatever shows they are in. I’m NGL I will travel for Adam, but I don’t carry signs or cookies, how I dressed maybe debatable.

I’m NGL I will travel for Adam, but I don’t carry signs or cookies, how I dressed maybe debatable.

You don’t qualify unless you have signs and they sparkle. Hee.

You don’t qualify unless you have signs and they sparkle.

THIS. Hee

You don’t qualify unless you have signs and they sparkle. Hee.

LOL – I’ll sprinkle myself with glitter.

ACookOfficial

Just met the crying girl from Idol fame.Her name is Ashley and she is awesome.

Looks like David’s brother got to meet her.

I’m hoping to go tomorrow night. My husband does I.T. for the casino, so he wasn’t allowed to buy tickets until the general public had their chance, but he’s going to see what’s left (if anything).

Ita that this ott fandom is not limited to idol.I know a woman who has travelled the world to see mccartney and makes signs, wears old concert tshirts etc. Now she has added stephen sondheim to her repertoire and has been travelling the us to festivals and benefits. Ever been to a barry manilow concert? Signs galore

Good luck vorona. I hope your husband can get some tickets for you.

But mmb, do the Barry Manilow signs *glitter*?

No, everyone has overinvested fans. Maybe it just seems more… out there?… for the Idols because they have so many right out of the gate. Usually I’d think it would take new artists longer to accumulate nutters, though I suppose since at some shows my brother had 5 fans and one was often #1 Fan Man… maybe not.

Wonder if Kris will be different since he’s married? Does anyone bring Daughtry cookies?

Ita that this ott fandom is not limited to idol.I know a woman who has travelled the world to see mccartney and makes signs, wears old concert tshirts etc. Now she has added stephen sondheim to her repertoire and has been travelling the us to festivals and benefits. Ever been to a barry manilow concert? Signs galore

YES! Two years ago at the Garden, and they were 70% old….older people and some kids. Signs galore, fun show though. And we can’t forget the Phish stans and Grateful Dead Stans. Idol has nothing on them. I worked with a guy who went to over 50 or more Phish concerts and he was devastated when they broke up.

Does anyone bring Daughtry cookies?

Now that is a scary thought. LOL

Maybe Cookie gets Cookies because he’s Cookie.

And apparently lots of Cheez-Its (from his twitter party last night):

RT @robinandrews25 @thedavidcook so how many boxes of cheez its did you get on tour? enough to make Nabisco recession-proof…

Tierbee. The fanilow signs have it all…..

Vorona, good luck, I saw that tonight was sold out but some seats were still available for tomorrow night.

Tierbee. The fanilow signs have it all’ ¦..

Maybe the Idol fan glitter-sign-makers are children of Barry Manilow fans and they honed their craft with their moms?! (Or dads, I guess I can’t leave out boys, there are bound to be boys who have glittery signs, too).

I just read that article about the wish list for Simon’s replacement… Lord, please, NO David Foster. That would send me screaming in the other direction. That list wasn’t very exciting, lol. Well, Sting… I’d tune in just to gaze at that hottie of a man.

This tweet from Peachanga.

@thethingiskat: LOL he just said their band was “one of the good boy bands, like LFO.” Also he sang a bit of “the right stuff”. Lol nkotb BEST EVER.

I thought that was what he was singing earlier but I wasn’t sure. Oh Dave! LOL

YES! Two years ago at the Garden, and they were 70% old’ ¦.older people and some kids. Signs galore, fun show though. And we can’t forget the Phish stans and Grateful Dead Stans. Idol has nothing on them. I worked with a guy who went to over 50 or more Phish concerts and he was devastated when they broke up.

Very true Lots of diehard fans in this world.

In fact, it’s not even just music. When I was going to a bunch of AI tours over the summer, and had coworkers rolling their eyes and making fun of me, I couldn’t help but think of how some of them are OBSESSED with sports, especially college teams, and will travel around the country several times a year to see their team play. So, yeah – I think we all need our escapes (especially if we work boring office jobs…ugh).

Also he sang a bit of ‘the right stuff’ . Lol nkotb BEST EVER.

For realz? That is hilarious! Ahh, that takes me back: “oh oh – oh oh oh. The right stuff” I used to make up dance routines in the basement to that song

For realz? That is hilarious! Ahh, that takes me back: ‘oh oh ‘“ oh oh oh. The right stuff’  I used to make up dance routines in the basement to that song

Yep, even with the garbled cellcasrt even I heard it. Hee I gotta admit it brings back memories though.

RT @robinandrews25 @thedavidcook so how many boxes of cheez its did you get on tour? enough to make Nabisco recession-proof’ ¦

Sadly, he just lost himself another endorsement.

(Cheez-Its are Sunshine/Kellogs.)

Still, there’s always QuikTrip. Or Whataburger. Or In’N'Out. Hee.

And yes, yes, yes, to the anti-sign movement. I did not pay $X to see a square of cardboard in my sightline.

Yay — WWFM is #6 on KISS FM’s top 9 at 9 in LA — it was #9 last night.

And he sang Champagne Supernova ahhh!! LOVE.

The late night twitter party last night was hilarious. I feel spoiled this week since we got them two nights in a row!

Dang his tat must be huge.
http://twitpic.com/vzfct

David Cook (#@thedavidcook) interview for Pechanga Casino & Resort http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ6n6fVszag

This is such a cool interview – Cookie looks so relaxed and happy

http://twitpic.com/vzfct

Wow! That is a big tat – want to see exactly what the darn thing is!

Yay ‘” WWFM is #6 on KISS FM’s top 9 at 9 in LA ‘” it was #9 last night.

Woot! Great news! It seems to be doing well in LA and NYC! Here’s hoping the momentum continues in the new year

Wow! That is a big tat ‘“ want to see exactly what the darn thing is!

You can see part of it in that interview that wellhesback posted. It is huge for sure!

wellhesback
12/31/2009 at 12:20 am

David Cook (#@thedavidcook) interview for Pechanga Casino & Resort http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ6n6fVszag
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Pam
12/31/2009 at 12:35 am

Wow! That is a big tat ‘“ want to see exactly what the darn thing is!

You can see part of it in that interview that wellhesback posted. It is huge for sure!

My husband had the chance to hold the mike for that interview (they asked for a volunteer in his office). Then they found an actual microphone stand. If he gets any more opportunities to see DC tomorrow, I’ll have him check out the tattoo.

That won’t be creepy at all, will it?

Here is a better pic of the tat

It’s the last stanza of this poem which Cook said was read at his brother’s funeral.

*tears*

Nvmd. Too slow…!

My husband had the chance to hold the mike for that interview (they asked for a volunteer in his office). Then they found an actual microphone stand. If he gets any more opportunities to see DC tomorrow, I’ll have him check out the tattoo.

That won’t be creepy at all, will it?

Yay an insider! What could be possibly be creepy about that? Are you sure your hubby won’t give you a WTH look though?

Nah, not much of an insider. Pechanga has something like four thousand employees. I think today was kind of a fluke. Luck of the draw. And then he was replaced by machinery.

Yay ‘” WWFM is #6 on KISS FM’s top 9 at 9 in LA ‘” it was #9 last night.

Nice. But what does this count down mean? Does it mean #6 song is played more than #9 song in their station, or the audience feedback is better for #6, or there are more requests for #6? Sorry for the dumb question.

Tierbee

I don’t think it’ll matter too much that Kris is married. I know of at least a dozen people on twitter who have been following him all over the country going to multiple JingleBalls after seeing him on the AI concert more than once. For the most part, these people are in their teens and 20s and don’t appear to be OTT delusional (i.e., thinking they could be real friends with or have a romantic relationship with him). But they are definitely seriously invested in his career! And they often end up getting to meet him and actually talk to him for a few minutes, which probably makes them want to go to another gig! Makes me feel like a real slacker since I haven’t been to anything other than the AMAs since tour ended. I would LIKE to go, but I have a FT job and a serious lack of $$$ that prevents me from flying all over the country to go to concerts. I need these guys to perform somewhere in the SoCal on a day I can take off from work, damn it!

I’ve read that female fans at some of Daughtry’s concerts have actually tried to pull off his wedding ring when he would reach out to greet people in the closest seats. So I don’t think it matters all that much if someone is married.

I’ve read that female fans at some of Daughtry’s concerts have actually tried to pull off his wedding ring when he would reach out to greet people in the closest seats. So I don’t think it matters all that much if someone is married.

Wow. No respect. If I was Chris I would be furious.

BeckyMD
12/31/2009 at 12:53 am

Yay ‘” WWFM is #6 on KISS FM’s top 9 at 9 in LA ‘” it was #9 last night.

Nice. But what does this count down mean? Does it mean #6 song is played more than #9 song in their station, or the audience feedback is better for #6, or there are more requests for #6? Sorry for the dumb question.

On Z-100 it is the most requested songs that day, WWFM was #1 yst, was not on today for some reason. Z-100 also has their playlist where WWFM is at #5, that means that it is played a lot, same as tik-tok, bad romance, 3. Z-100 also has high noon countdown, and that is determined by a combination of factors, not just ppl requesting, but I am not sure what exactly.

girlygirl
12/31/2009 at 12:57 am
I haven’t been to anything other than the AMAs since tour ended.

you actually saw the AMAs live? that’s great, can I ask you a question, how did it sound live, and what was the ppls reaction to Adams performance?

Angela

There seemed to be audio problems for Adam’s performance during the AMAs because he sounded a lot different than he did the other time I heard him live (during the AI tour). But he was definitely off pitch vocally for a lot of the song — it wasn’t one of his better performances in terms of the vocal, although the stage presence was definitely intact. And the crowd responded enthusiastically — it wasn’t the most popular performance of the show — that was probably either Lady gaga or Jay-Z/Alicia, but overall it was well received by the audience. If anyone was shocked or upset, I couldn’t really tell.

(I have to say though, that the constant pimping by the announcer got old REAL fast. The announcer must have said some variation of “stayed tuned for an amazing performance by Adam Lambert” at least a dozen times going into the commercial breaks)

I am new to Idol this year and didn’t feel that Adam was being shoved on the public by the show.

LOL. And I’ve got some swampland in Florida to sell ya!

girlygirl

thank you so much for responding. I was watching on tv, and i kept on changing the sound, it just didn’t sound right to me, but I noticed that ppl got up before adam started singing. as for the pimping, that got old on tv as well, with all the your wont believe your eyes bs, etc.

gigglesmo3
12/31/2009 at 12:39 am
Here is a better pic of the tat

It’s the last stanza of this poem which Cook said was read at his brother’s funeral.

*tears*

What a beautiful poem. Just shows what a sensitive guy Cookie is.
Thanks for the post

Sorry, but what channel/date is the rebroadcasting of season 8 happening on? Is it a regular cable channel?

isisdagmar

Fox RealityChannel — starting at Noon eastern time on Jan. 1

http://www.ainow.org/index.php/tidbits/1568-relive-your-favorite-season-8-moments

Fox RealityChannel ‘” starting at Noon eastern time on Jan. 1

http://www.ainow.org/index.php/tidbits/1568-relive-your-favorite-season-8-moments

Thank you, girlygirl. You’re always so helpful with info, it’s very much appreciated.

Cook sang part of Champagne Super Nova during Heroes tonight. Enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRzbU3G8_K4

isisdagmar
12/31/2009 at 1:50 am
Sorry, but what channel/date is the rebroadcasting of season 8 happening on? Is it a regular cable channel?

I have Direct TV and Fox Reality is channel 250. I’m from Southern California.
Actually, are the channel numbers of satelite TV the same all over the country ? I have no clue.

Adam’s brother is going to be broadcasting tomorrow night’s concert from his phone

negativeneil

Heads up: I’ll be at Adam’s concert tomorrow. And broadcasting live via my phone. 29 minutes ago from twidroid

Wednesday, 01.06.10 8:00PM American Idol 2009 EP. 821 The Top 11 Perform: Country

I’ll be Tivo-ing this one. Ranks as one of the top moments of 2009 for me. “Ring of Fire” — a moment my sister still shudders over and which had me kicking my feet with glee. (Glee over his song — not my sister’s horror. )

Oh wow, I really liked that article on Cale Mills. It was great to hear his side of the story on writing “Is It Over” (love this song!). I’m so happy that he is a part of Kris’s band!!!! I hope his and Kris’s dreams continue to come true. Thanks for posting that mj!!!

girlygirl, you’re no slacker (sorry, can’t remember how you said it) that ‘s for sure! You’re so good at getting information to us so quickly! You’re awesome!!! You’re very balanced in your viewpoints and opinions too, imho.

I haven’t seen Kris live yet, but I really look forward to being able to do so and hopefully sooner than later!!

ETA: I also meant to mention DC’s new tattoo! I remember this poem from before, I think it was posted after the funeral. Even though it’s a huge tattoo, it’s a meaningful one. I believe they all are. Love this guy!

RT @negativeneil: Heads up: I’ll be at Adam’s concert tomorrow. And broadcasting live via my phone.

How do we access that? Will there be a link here at MJ’s? What time will Adam perform here on the west coast?

double post

revcat

Adam’s set starts at midnight Pacific Coast time tomorrow. I think there’s a link on Neil’s twitter page as to how to access his broadcast

Here is link to tweets from people going to Kris’ show tonight. This is the same page that can be used to follow tweets at tomorrow’s Billboard NYE show where Kris and Allison will be performing

http://twitter.com/dy7764/kris-nye-vegasshows

re: Kris’ concert tonight

# @mer89 it’s starting to fill up more. there are a lot of people who paid extra to sit at tables & stools 6 minutes ago from mobile web

h20convo

setlist has red guitar omg 7 songs 2 minutes ago from mobile web

Champagne Supernova – as in Oasis!? Excellent. My musical loves are beginning to collide now… :lol

Set list for Kris tonight:

Tonight’s set list: Heartless Mashup, CSA, AWM, IIO, MITM, Red Guitar, Britney song, LLWD

I believe that Lambert does not live up to the hype and is overrated.

You are allowed your opinion, as are the people who feel the other way, so I don’t get what the issue is.

:Lol

It’s not an ‘issue’ – someone posted asking why Adam Lambert was so polarising, so I tried to answer. Passing the time – I enjoy the debate.
That’s why I post here, rather than just read and why I read and generally don’t post on fan sites.

If he blows up big, he blows up big: great for his fans. But I’ll still think he’s over hyped and overrated…

And nope, that’s not an issue – it just explains that not everyone is ever going to think he’s the bees knees, anymore than they do with anyone else. And that’s not a problem.

Kris evidently went over well tonight. He’s doing an encore…

hazel_eyes11

audience chanting for more 2 minutes ago from txt

hazel_eyes11

kris solo aint no sunshine! by request 1 minute ago from txt

adamsmadams There’s hardly anyone here, not even half full, good 4 us, bad 4 Kris

How many people does this place hold? Isn’t it only around 5 or 6 hundred? Did they advertise this concert?

nyc

The place evidently filled up after that tweet

h2oconvo

@mer89 it’s starting to fill up more. there are a lot of people who paid extra to sit at tables & stools about 2 hours ago from mobile web

Here is a better pic of the tat

It’s the last stanza of this poem which Cook said was read at his brother’s funeral.

Awww, Cookie. *Sniff,* indeed. He was asked about his tattoos on that Twitter Q&A:

RT @cara_tweets @thedavidcook: favourite tattoo you have? / my AC tattoo means the world to me

Cook sang part of Champagne Super Nova during Heroes tonight.

And oooh, thank you for that amazing-quality video of the Champagne Supernova snippet! I had to watch it twice because the first time I was distracted by his arms. I know, shallow me. But I can’t help it, he’s *pretty*. And it is 6 am and I just had to walk the puppy in the sleet and rain so I am thinking… I deserve some pretty. LOL! I did, indeed, enjoy

It’s not a pre-purchased ticket show so everyone is not going to come in at the same time. It’s very normal for shows like that.

Happy New Year People!!!!

May 2010 brings lots of glitters!!!

Happy New Year People!!!!

May 2010 brings lots of glitters!!!

Sparkle everyone – that’s what NYE is all about

I am currently listening to the Israeli Countdown of the decade (for foreign artists) on our biggest most popular radio station, and so far, Best Male of the decade is Justin Timberlake and Best female of the decade is Beyonce’….
I just wanted to say that as part of the discussion that went on a few days ago about who’s a global superstar… someone said they didn’t think JT qualified… and we’re not such a big market (ok- we’re tiny) but it still, best male of the DECADE must mean something… And I’m not a fan of his at all, but I guess credit should be given where credit is due…

Next hour they’ll announce best group, afterwards worst song of the decade (that should be a hoot- Oops I did it again is a nominee, along with James Blunt’s You’re beautiful, and some other more obscure romanian-speaking or turkish-speaking songs, hee) and lastly, song of Decade.
I’m all in suspense, lol. I’m betting the band will be Coldplay, and the song will be…hmmm… Yellow??? Personally, I want My Immortal by Evanesance to win- AWESOME song, but if it must be a Coldplay song, I prefer The Scientist to Yellow…

Sorry for the OT ramble, but thought some of you music lovers may be interested in international end of the decade countdowns…

Yay it is 2010 here now- just watched the Sydney fireworks!! Happy new year everyone!!

Happy New Year Judes and all of Australia… ours is in 8 hours!

oh no… The Scientist just scored #43 on my countdown…
#42 is now playing- BEP “Where is the Love”

POP:
35 34 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 1493 1353 140 10.476
+23 Spins
-18 Bullet
+0.180 AI

HAC:
43 44 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 239 269 -30 1.074
+1 Spin
+0 Bullet
-0.004 AI

POP:
27 26 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 2252 2218 34 12.701
+2 Spins
-32 Bullet
-0.014 AI

HAC:
12 12 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 1997 1901 96 9.840
+41 Spins
+41 Bullet
+0.332 AI

DEAR MJ, POSTERS, LURKERS, AND EACH AND EVERYONE HERE,

HAPPY NEW YEAR 2010 !!!

MAY YOUR NEW YEAR FILLED WITH HAPPINESS, GOOD HEALTH, LIFE-LONGIVITY, AND PROSPERITY !!!

I WISH FOR OUR PLANET (AND PLANET FIERCE) LOVE AND PEACE. NO MORE WARS, HUNGER, NATURAL DISASTERS OR SUFFERING.

MAY ALL OF YOUR WISHES COME TRUE !!!

&

HAVE A WONDERFUL YEAR !!!

BEST WISHES,
asifclueless

RT @cara_tweets @thedavidcook: favourite tattoo you have? / my AC tattoo means the world to me

I think that’s a different one from the new one. Despite all the meanings of these things, he’s going to end up looking like a circus freak, I swear.

Happy New Year asifclueless!

[Ha! I knew it- Coldplay was just announced our foreign band of the Decade, so kuddos to Coldplay]

Happy New Year to everyone here. And hopefully in even better 2010.

Happy New Year Judas

Next hour they’ll announce best group, afterwards worst song of the decade (that should be a hoot- Oops I did it again is a nominee, along with James Blunt’s You’re Beautiful
^^^
Awww, say it isn’t so, I love You’re Beautiful!

Interesting to hear from different countries around the world, including Israel. That’s one of the fun things about this blog and I guess it’s due to modern technology that anyone with a good internet connection can follow American Idol from afar. Do you have an Israeli Idol program?

It’s not an ‘issue’ ‘“ someone posted asking why Adam Lambert was so polarising, so I tried to answer. Passing the time ‘“ I enjoy the debate.
That’s why I post here, rather than just read and why I read and generally don’t post on fan sites.

If he blows up big, he blows up big: great for his fans. But I’ll still think he’s over hyped and overrated’ ¦

And nope, that’s not an issue ‘“ it just explains that not everyone is ever going to think he’s the bees knees, anymore than they do with anyone else. And that’s not a problem.

Yup… ITA.

revcat- don’t worry about You’re Beautiful- it’s also nominated in the normal list, and since we just passed #31 without hearing it, I think there’s a good chance it’ll be on the good songs list too. It’s just that it’s a very polarizing song, some find it beautiful and some find it extremely annoying (sound familiar??)… it happend the last decade with Zombie by the Cranberries- it was on the top 20 for best song and #3 on worst songs… pretty funny if you ask me

Also- yep- we have an equivelent of American Idol here- it’s called “A Star is Born” and it’s a pretty popular show, but also people are getting a little tired of it. The winners of recent years aren’t very successful. The winners (all top 3) of the first two seasons are pretty successful though!
I don’t watch it, just like I never watched AI until I realized there’s that phenom called Adam Lambert on it…

wwfm single cover
http://spinorbinmusic.wordpress.com/2009/12/18/adam-lambert-whataya-want-from-me-single-cover/

Sassycatz
12/31/2009 at 8:54 am

RT @cara_tweets @thedavidcook: favourite tattoo you have? / my AC tattoo means the world to me

I think that’s a different one from the new one.

Yeah, the AC one is the first one he got, right? The pretty one on his left bicep (I think it’s a bicep, I have no concept of muscle terminology).

Despite all the meanings of these things, he’s going to end up looking like a circus freak, I swear.

Heh, he’ll be a male version of this? I wouldn’t mind.

Chances may be slim you’ll see it, but Maggie Mae (hope I remember correctly), thanks for your post. That was a lovely story and I’m glad you were able to connect with these wonderful people.
I would be thrilled to meet someone who actually remembers being blown away by Adam all those years ago and I can(‘t) imagine their surprise when they heard him on TV.
Please say ‘hi’ to them from me.

revcat- if you’re still looking- You’re Beautiful scored #10 on the countdown!
Very respectable- guess many people here think like you

wwfm single cover
http://spinorbinmusic.wordpress.com/2009/12/18/adam-lambert-whataya-want-from-me-single-cover/

LOL pretty sure that’s not his actual single cover, just something a fan whipped up.