Comments on: Idol Headlines for 1/21/08 http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm American Idol - I Love This Cheesy Show Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:45:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: jersey http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-97270 jersey Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:33:30 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm#comment-97270 I'm late chiming in but I agree totally with what MJ said. And I base my feeling on NGAB. (I was one of the few that watched). Both of those top two bands deserved a second chance. But again, MJ's right. On that show, we knew this was a second chance for them and it was a part of their back story. If AI is honest about that, I have no problem. If they're not, I will feel like they are ignoring part of the core audience of this show, those who frequent the internet and know all about the history of all of the contestants. I’m late chiming in but I agree totally with what MJ said. And I base my feeling on NGAB. (I was one of the few that watched). Both of those top two bands deserved a second chance. But again, MJ’s right. On that show, we knew this was a second chance for them and it was a part of their back story. If AI is honest about that, I have no problem. If they’re not, I will feel like they are ignoring part of the core audience of this show, those who frequent the internet and know all about the history of all of the contestants.

]]> By: Lu http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-97269 Lu Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:34:50 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm#comment-97269 Exactly PJ. I'm going out on a limb here and predicting that Kristy Lee Cook and Carly Hennessy are both signed at the end of the season. BTW about the cattle call - Kristy suffered to get on the show, remember? She sold her horse.... Uh huh, okay.... right. Exactly PJ.

I’m going out on a limb here and predicting that Kristy Lee Cook and Carly Hennessy are both signed at the end of the season.

BTW about the cattle call – Kristy suffered to get on the show, remember? She sold her horse…. Uh huh, okay…. right.

]]> By: pj http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-97268 pj Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:30:51 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm#comment-97268 I don't know if Mario was put on the show, but he did make the top 12. He quit and that's why Nikko Smith got to be in the top 12. Mario may have bombed, but he still got signed by Clive. His single "Gallery" got lots of airplay, but it didn't help his album sales. The fact that he bombed doesn't erase the fact that he got signed regardless of his placement on the show. Kellie Pickler didn't make top 5 and she was signed. She came in 6th and is doing quite well. And yeah, she performed around town, but she wasn't close to being signed pre-AI. I don’t know if Mario was put on the show, but he did make the top 12. He quit and that’s why Nikko Smith got to be in the top 12. Mario may have bombed, but he still got signed by Clive. His single “Gallery” got lots of airplay, but it didn’t help his album sales. The fact that he bombed doesn’t erase the fact that he got signed regardless of his placement on the show.

Kellie Pickler didn’t make top 5 and she was signed. She came in 6th and is doing quite well. And yeah, she performed around town, but she wasn’t close to being signed pre-AI.

]]> By: abbysee http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-97267 abbysee Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:24:59 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm#comment-97267 Was Mario put on the show, I missed that. I thought he auditioned, made it, quit, was signed and then bombed. And believe me Kristy or Carly have to at least be top 5 to be signed, or this putting them on the show for promo purposes doesn't work. Was Mario put on the show, I missed that. I thought he auditioned, made it, quit, was signed and then bombed. And believe me Kristy or Carly have to at least be top 5 to be signed, or this putting them on the show for promo purposes doesn’t work.

]]> By: pj http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-97266 pj Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:45:57 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm#comment-97266 Obviously, it's not against the rules. That's not the debate. To me, someone who has had a deal with Sony/BMG in the past or another major label ($2M) deal doesn't inspire me to spend my time voting for them. It smacks of TPTB wanting them to get the exposure of AI, rather than trying to develop them as artists without the push of the TV show. In fact, they may intend to sign Kristy Lee or the Irish girl regardless and not even care if either wins or comes close to it. If they will get a contract regardless and are only putting them on the show for promo purposes (see: Vasquez, Mario), that pretty much sucks. I wonder if they had to go through the "cattle call" or got a direct route to the auditions with RP&S. I'd rather give someone not on their radar a chance, whether or not they are "semi-pro or pro." Obviously, it’s not against the rules. That’s not the debate. To me, someone who has had a deal with Sony/BMG in the past or another major label ($2M) deal doesn’t inspire me to spend my time voting for them. It smacks of TPTB wanting them to get the exposure of AI, rather than trying to develop them as artists without the push of the TV show.

In fact, they may intend to sign Kristy Lee or the Irish girl regardless and not even care if either wins or comes close to it. If they will get a contract regardless and are only putting them on the show for promo purposes (see: Vasquez, Mario), that pretty much sucks. I wonder if they had to go through the “cattle call” or got a direct route to the auditions with RP&S.

I’d rather give someone not on their radar a chance, whether or not they are “semi-pro or pro.”

]]> By: itsalleternal http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-97263 itsalleternal Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:13:47 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm#comment-97263 That is correct - you cannot be signed from the time of the initial audition until 3 months after the finale airs. Whatever happened in the past doesn't matter as long as you meet all eligibility requirements. That is correct – you cannot be signed from the time of the initial audition until 3 months after the finale airs. Whatever happened in the past doesn’t matter as long as you meet all eligibility requirements.

]]> By: Lu http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-97261 Lu Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:52:29 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm#comment-97261 <blockquote>Wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t it be funny if most of these people we are ringing our hands over donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make the top twenty four, and if this show is really about finding really good talent and these people are really talented whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the problem? </blockquote> No hand wringing here... just sitting it back and watching it all unfold. The problem I have is that the viewers could be misled and deceived. If TPTB are upfront about these people's backgrounds, that's a different story. Then the voters can decide if they want someone who was already been signed or someone who's never had the chance. Either way, I'm certainly not staying up nights worrying about it. I stay up nights reading this blog though! :)

Wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t it be funny if most of these people we are ringing our hands over donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make the top twenty four, and if this show is really about finding really good talent and these people are really talented whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the problem?

No hand wringing here… just sitting it back and watching it all unfold. The problem I have is that the viewers could be misled and deceived. If TPTB are upfront about these people’s backgrounds, that’s a different story. Then the voters can decide if they want someone who was already been signed or someone who’s never had the chance. Either way, I’m certainly not staying up nights worrying about it. I stay up nights reading this blog though! :)

]]> By: jobbix http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-97259 jobbix Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:27:07 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm#comment-97259 I just checked Google. MJ's is #4 on the search results for "Kristy Lee Cook"! Guess who's #5? The news of her signing with Arista Nashville! LOL. Isn't that ironic? I just checked Google. MJ’s is #4 on the search results for “Kristy Lee Cook”! Guess who’s #5? The news of her signing with Arista Nashville! LOL. Isn’t that ironic?

]]> By: jobbix http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-97258 jobbix Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:12:54 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm#comment-97258 Wow!! The pony-for-airline-ticket backstory worked! There is actually a buzz on Google for KLC? Congratulations to TPTB for a job well-done! I am looking forward to even cuter stories as the show hits the stride..LOL. Can anybody guess what Carly's story might be tomorrow night? Will TPTB be honest? We'll find out soon.. Wow!! The pony-for-airline-ticket backstory worked! There is actually a buzz on Google for KLC? Congratulations to TPTB for a job well-done! I am looking forward to even cuter stories as the show hits the stride..LOL. Can anybody guess what Carly’s story might be tomorrow night? Will TPTB be honest? We’ll find out soon..

]]> By: abbysee http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-97257 abbysee Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:04:52 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm#comment-97257 Wouldn't it be funny if most of these people we are ringing our hands over don't make the top twenty four, and if this show is really about finding really good talent and these people are really talented what's the problem? In the end, that is if you don't believe in the winner already prechosen conspiracy theory, America will choose, won't they, I mean the top twelve anyway right? Those who vote rabidly will know more about these contestants than their mamas do. Wouldn’t it be funny if most of these people we are ringing our hands over don’t make the top twenty four, and if this show is really about finding really good talent and these people are really talented what’s the problem?

In the end, that is if you don’t believe in the winner already prechosen conspiracy theory, America will choose, won’t they, I mean the top twelve anyway right? Those who vote rabidly will know more about these contestants than their mamas do.

]]> By: Nostradamas http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-97255 Nostradamas Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:06:41 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm#comment-97255 Personally, I'd like to see them add the concept of songwriting to this contest...ala the band contest show. We all know that most "one hit wonders" have their shot because of the song, not the artist. we all also know people who can sing as well as 95% of the contestants. If 19 and TPTB truly want to recoup their investment, then let us choose someone with staying power, not just someone who "fits the suit." The main reason record compnies are loosing their shirts these days is because they do not allow for an artist to build his audience on a national level...."sing us a hit or get out of the way for the next one hit wonder". It's become fast food.... How many records did Springsteen, Mellencamp et. el. put out before they actually sold on a national level? At least three if memory serves.... Personally, I’d like to see them add the concept of songwriting to this contest…ala the band contest show.

We all know that most “one hit wonders” have their shot because of the song, not the artist. we all also know people who can sing as well as 95% of the contestants.

If 19 and TPTB truly want to recoup their investment, then let us choose someone with staying power, not just someone who “fits the suit.”

The main reason record compnies are loosing their shirts these days is because they do not allow for an artist to build his audience on a national level….”sing us a hit or get out of the way for the next one hit wonder”. It’s become fast food….

How many records did Springsteen, Mellencamp et. el. put out before they actually sold on a national level? At least three if memory serves….

]]> By: angelia http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-97254 angelia Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:05:39 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm#comment-97254 If TPTB are upfront about the ringers, it won't really bother me that they are competing. From past experience with TPTB, I look for them not to disclose the fact that they have been around the block already. I would prefer rank amateurs but I will still watch the show, but I will not be among the "millions" who vote. I gave that up after Season 5. If TPTB are upfront about the ringers, it won’t really bother me that they are competing. From past experience with TPTB, I look for them not to disclose the fact that they have been around the block already. I would prefer rank amateurs but I will still watch the show, but I will not be among the “millions” who vote. I gave that up after Season 5.

]]> By: jpfan http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-97253 jpfan Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:44:21 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm#comment-97253 They have to be honest about people or the audience will feel like they've been tricked. In Taylor's case, his struggles as a musician were the core of his back story. I actually thought after Season 5, they'd start using talent already discovered by the label but not yet officially signed. That way, they could kickstart the careers with the show. That may be the way the show ends up eventually because if it's all about "talent" why even bother with the painful auditions. The labels already have a storehouse of talent ready to go that just needs TV exposure. I agree that somehow it does sap the fun out of the show even if the talent may be better. They have to be honest about people or the audience will feel like they’ve been tricked. In Taylor’s case, his struggles as a musician were the core of his back story.

I actually thought after Season 5, they’d start using talent already discovered by the label but not yet officially signed. That way, they could kickstart the careers with the show. That may be the way the show ends up eventually because if it’s all about “talent” why even bother with the painful auditions. The labels already have a storehouse of talent ready to go that just needs TV exposure.

I agree that somehow it does sap the fun out of the show even if the talent may be better.

]]> By: Kat http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-97252 Kat Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:42:43 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm#comment-97252 I would have to chime in with the people saying that it's not so much the fact that some of the contestants had major record deals, but the fact that you just know AI's going to try to hide it. I mean, if Carly Hennessy makes the Top 24, do we really think that her big reveal during Share Your Secret Week is going to be "well, I once was signed to a two-million dollar recording deal by a major label, even was put up in a fancy apartment and everything, but the effort failed so miserably that the Wall Street Journal wrote an article about it and here I am?" No. Similarly, Kristy Lee Cook (who may have "buzz" now, but hell, so did Sundance at this time last year) seems to be viewed as Carrie 2.0: a sheltered blonde to had to sell her horse to get all the way to Idol, with nary a mention of her ties to Arista Nashville. It's not SO much the prior ties that bother me (although I'm not thrilled about them), because we've had semi-pros before: Taylor had a lot of connections in the music industry, and Carrie Underwood wasn't the fresh-off-the-farm ingenue that Idol made her out to be. It's the fact that it seems right now that Britney Spears could cut ties with her label, walk in for an audition, make the Top 24, and Idol would simply promote her as a down-on-her-luck single mother of two. It's not like I find it unethical or immoral or anything, but to me it just saps some of the fun from the competition. I would have to chime in with the people saying that it’s not so much the fact that some of the contestants had major record deals, but the fact that you just know AI’s going to try to hide it. I mean, if Carly Hennessy makes the Top 24, do we really think that her big reveal during Share Your Secret Week is going to be “well, I once was signed to a two-million dollar recording deal by a major label, even was put up in a fancy apartment and everything, but the effort failed so miserably that the Wall Street Journal wrote an article about it and here I am?” No. Similarly, Kristy Lee Cook (who may have “buzz” now, but hell, so did Sundance at this time last year) seems to be viewed as Carrie 2.0: a sheltered blonde to had to sell her horse to get all the way to Idol, with nary a mention of her ties to Arista Nashville.

It’s not SO much the prior ties that bother me (although I’m not thrilled about them), because we’ve had semi-pros before: Taylor had a lot of connections in the music industry, and Carrie Underwood wasn’t the fresh-off-the-farm ingenue that Idol made her out to be. It’s the fact that it seems right now that Britney Spears could cut ties with her label, walk in for an audition, make the Top 24, and Idol would simply promote her as a down-on-her-luck single mother of two. It’s not like I find it unethical or immoral or anything, but to me it just saps some of the fun from the competition.

]]> By: Sarah http://www.mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-97251 Sarah Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:28:30 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-headlines-for-12108.htm#comment-97251 <blockquote>What bothers me is how they continue to pretend that viewers arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t going to figure all this out and ignore the plethora of blogs listing spoilers, links, and other info on these people.</blockquote> Donna, that's what bothers me too. I don't mind that these "semi-pros" are allowed to audition, I think it will make for an interesting show. But I will be pretty upset if they're not upfront with the past experience of these contestants. It's not like they've knowingly hid the performing experience of past contestants - we knew that Bo, Chris, Constantine, Taylor, etc were in bands. That was the heart and soul of Constantine's backstory, and Bo's and Taylor's bandmembers were even interviewed. But, if they fail to disclose this year and just pretend that we can't just look up names on the internet, it won't sit well with me. And if it does "come out" on a larger scale, I don't think it will sit well with other viewers either... people don't like feeling duped. <blockquote>I mean she tried and failed so sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s useless right?</blockquote> Not necessarily. Just like many other things, it's all about timing in the music industry. You need the right person with the right look and the right voice at the right time.

What bothers me is how they continue to pretend that viewers arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t going to figure all this out and ignore the plethora of blogs listing spoilers, links, and other info on these people.

Donna, that’s what bothers me too. I don’t mind that these “semi-pros” are allowed to audition, I think it will make for an interesting show. But I will be pretty upset if they’re not upfront with the past experience of these contestants. It’s not like they’ve knowingly hid the performing experience of past contestants – we knew that Bo, Chris, Constantine, Taylor, etc were in bands. That was the heart and soul of Constantine’s backstory, and Bo’s and Taylor’s bandmembers were even interviewed.

But, if they fail to disclose this year and just pretend that we can’t just look up names on the internet, it won’t sit well with me. And if it does “come out” on a larger scale, I don’t think it will sit well with other viewers either… people don’t like feeling duped.

I mean she tried and failed so sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s useless right?

Not necessarily. Just like many other things, it’s all about timing in the music industry. You need the right person with the right look and the right voice at the right time.

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