Idol Headlines for 12/05/09

LA Times gave Archie 2.5 stars. That’s not bad considering the fact that Andrea Boceli also received 2.5 stars from the same reviewer.

Glad to see that tonight’s concert is also a sold out venue just like the one from last night. Way to go, David!!

The ‘American Idol’  runner-up performs Saturday, Dec. 5, before a sold out crowd at the Avalon Theatre. Doors to the theater open at 6:30 p.m. The show begins at 7:30 p.m.

Along with his show in Grand Junction, Archuleta performs Sunday, Dec. 6, in Beaver Creek.

the grand junction venue is sold out too… no wonder – seeing david bring these songs to life in concert is not to be missed… he’s the rare pop artist that sings superbly live, and brings entertainment from the compelling force and power and emotion in his vocal delivery… give this young man a mic, a stage, a band, or not, because he’s just as killer singing acapella, and let him go to town…

lolol ozarka – he gave that dylan monstrosity 3 or three and a half, so there you go… dylan’s legend is intact, but his voice sure isn’t on that cd, but to each their own… bocelli and david are both outselling him at present on itunes… no one except susan boyle is outselling bocelli, but david’s cd is selling better than dylan’s, so i’ll take it, lolol

Oh, really? Grand Junction is also sold out? That’s so awesome. Btw, the LA Times review is based on a 1-4 star scale.

Joe Millianaire is number 8 of most watched shows? OMG! Why does that just crack me up!
So, 2007 Idol was Season 6. I’m not surprised, since Season 5 was one of the best seasons ever!

Which song on FYE has lyrics about trashing hotel rooms and mentions a Mazarati? It’s driving me nuts and I can’t go through the whole CD again right now.

GREAT video of Allison’s AOL Sessions – “Holiday”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4n-HsBy_4s

Which song on FYE has lyrics about trashing hotel rooms and mentions a Mazarati? It’s driving me nuts and I can’t go through the whole CD again right now.

If I Had You

VH-1 Top 20 Countdown this weekend:

Kelly #7
Kris #10
Daughtry #12
Carrie #13

Go Idols! (Rob Thomas #1 this week)

GREAT video of Allison’s AOL Sessions ‘“ ‘Holiday’ 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4n-HsBy_4s

I saw the interview with Dilana about Holiday yesterday. I really like Dilana and the song is awesome but I don’t really know what to think of Allison doing it. I just wish Dilana could get the success she deserves.

I am proud (?) to admit I watched Joe Millionaire. Wonder what happened to Evan Marriott?

Thank you saga! It’s been a long time since I listened to a CD with so many interesting songs. No matter who wrote them they all seem to have pieces of Adam in the lyrics. I keep thinking this one is my favorite, no this one. I think there are maybe 2 I don’t like as well as the rest but then I listen to them and I think on an average CD churned out by a label they would probably be among the better songs. It’s rare to get more than 4 really good songs, sometimes only one (which is, of course, why most people don’t buy that many albums anymore, just download singles).

I am proud (?) to admit I watched Joe Millionaire. Wonder what happened to Evan Marriott?

I remember watching it too, it was fun.

When is Allison’s AOL sessions premiering?

Concert dates for Carrie’s Play On tour are starting to leak. First confirmed date:

April 25, 2010
U.S. Bank Arena
Cincinnati, OH

Tickets go on sale: Fri, 12/18/09.

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/16004373FBD97515?artistid=1004122&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=2

Picture of Allison & Lil last night

http://twitpic.com/s7ulo

MJ

I haven’t seen a firm date for when Allison’s AOL Sessions premiere

MJ: There was a post yesterday on ONTD_AI that the AOL sessions were pulled, but nobody knows why.

ETA: Clarifying. I just went back to read the post again – some were posted yesterday, people saw them, but then they were taken down quickly. I’m not sure when they are going to be “officially” up. The person who keeps track of appearances usually posts the complete list on Sundays so maybe she’ll know a firm date by tomorrow.

girlygirl
12/05/2009 at 11:35 am

Picture of Allison & Lil last night

http://twitpic.com/s7ulo

That is a really great pic of the two of them!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie3rjIfc9N8

First vids coming from last night – not the best sound quality. Thanks Chachi!!!

Kris is going to be on Andrew Cook’s radio show again today. Andrew asked for people to tweet him questions @acookofficial

US Bank Arena has about 17,500 seating capacity. good start for a Carrie tour. not small but not too big, either.

YouTube videos from last night concerts.

From Memphis (or I guess this was really in Mississippi?)

Allison – Cry Baby (really clear, and close-up video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr1olj-7lto&feature=player_embedded

From Chicago:

Kris – Can’t Stay Away (not great quality video or audio)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie3rjIfc9N8&feature=player_embedded

US Bank Arena has about 17,500 seating capacity. good start for a Carrie tour. not small but not too big, either.

I’m not sure if Carrie’ll go for the full 17,500 capacity. That’s a LOT. In her Carnival Ride arena tour, she was averaging around 7,000 sold. In her Billboard feature article, she said she’s going for broke this time around and she didn’t care about the money. She joked that if it flopped, she could always go acoustic on the following tour. So she’ll probably aim for higher than 7,000 now, but I don’t think 17,000.

Just to give an idea how huge 17,500 is, here are some of Kelly and Daughtry’s tour numbers from the latest Billboard boxscore. Average number of tickets sold for Daughtry is 5,500. Kelly 3,000.

41 Daughtry, Theory of a Dead Man, Cavo Greensboro Coliseum
Greensboro, N.C.
Nov. 12, 2009
$262,508
6,765 / 7,425
1 / 0
$39.50, $29.50
AEG Live

42 Daughtry, Theory of a Dead Man, Cavo Big Sandy Superstore Arena
Huntington, W. Va.
Nov. 14, 2009
$253,688
6,312 / 6,378
1 / 0
$41.50, $31.50
AEG Live/Outback Concerts

48 Daughtry, Theory of a Dead Man, Cavo Arena at Harbor Yard
Bridgeport, Conn.
Nov. 17, 2009
$206,227
5,292 / 5,707
1 / 0
$39.75, $29.75
AEG Live

53 Daughtry, Theory of a Dead Man, Cavo Wachovia Arena
Wilkes-Barre, Pa.
Nov. 16, 2009
$174,487
4,520 / 5,980
1 / 0
$42, $32
AEG Live

56 Daughtry, Theory of a Dead Man, Cavo John Paul Jones Arena
Charlottesville, Va.
Nov. 20, 2009
$169,738
4,746 / 5,759
1 / 0
$41.50, $31.50
AEG Live

58 Daughtry, Theory of a Dead Man, Cavo The Bank of Kentucky Center
Highland Heights, Ky.
Nov. 13, 2009
$158,288
4,148 / 5,427
1 / 0
$41.50, $31.50
AEG Live

59 Daughtry, Theory of a Dead Man, Cavo Patriot Center
Fairfax, Va.
Nov. 19, 2009
$154,316
3,889 / 5,541
1 / 0
$42.50, $32.50
AEG Live

62 Kelly Clarkson, Parachute, Eric Hutchinson Event Center Arena
San Jose, Calif.
Nov. 29, 2009
$136,192
3,032 / 3,630
1 / 0
$282.50, $85, $55
AEG Live

Here’s Allison doing FIBOU at the JingleBall concert last night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqJddtUNclY&feature=player_embedded

Since Carrie made 14 mil last year she can afford to take a gamble on “going for broke” this year. And to think she started out playing at obscure Indian casinos in my neck of the woods, nice venues but fairly small.

For all of Carrie’s success (and I respect it) I cannot take country music and have never bought a thing she’s done. If that duet she did with Cook on her holiday show — that we may never hear — were released, I’d possibly buy that. But, country, no matter who it’s sung by, I don’t like. I think I have one album by a country artist: Allison Krauss and only because she did some covers I like. Or, country rock, I like that well enough. Love the Eagles and no one can deny that Desperado is country rock.

GAH!!!

@ClaudeKelly: Where are all the David Cook fans? im in the studio with the incredible @thedavidcook now! Rockin the f&*k out!

I need to hear whatever he’s rockin the eff out on like NOW!

@ClaudeKelly: Where are all the David Cook fans? im in the studio with the incredible @thedavidcook now! Rockin the f&*k out!

David Cook fans are RIGHT HERE!! Gah!

Where are all the David Cook fans?

EVERYWHERE.

@ClaudeKelly: Where are all the David Cook fans? im in the studio with the incredible @thedavidcook now! Rockin the f&*k out!

Is he implying Cook has telepathic fans that would know things without being, you know … told?

Ohh! David’s sophomore album will be so good! I can just feel it!

I took CK’s as something he was putting out there to let his fans know hes working with him now and just that he was looking for a response. He tweeted earlier he had a fun studio session ahead and he would fill people in later so I don’t think he expected any fans to know.

eta: ROTFL now David and CK are tweeting back and forth. God how I wish we had Twitter when he was recording the first album lol

My comment was somewhat rhetorical but reflective of the current feeling that Cook’s promo team is in their Rip Van Winkle mode.

thedavidcook: everyone check out @ClaudeKelly> Rad dude. yep, I said it. RAD. DUDE. 2 minutes ago from web

ClaudeKelly: @thedavidcook ahhh, Fo-Co-PAJ!!!!
2 minutes ago from web in reply to thedavidcook

thedavidcook: @ClaudeKelly, nice phonetic spelling of the word.
half a minute ago from web

At least Cookie is jamming with a RAD.DUDE Me? I’m sitting in my house watching snow pile up outside. Would prefer jamming with Rad Dude.

At least Cookie is jamming with a RAD.DUDE Me? I’m sitting in my house watching snow pile up outside. Would prefer jamming with Rad Dude.

Me too lol Yikes! Wish I had a snow shovel to dig you out.

Wasn’t it CK that wrote FYE? Watch out, the guy seems to like it rough!

ClaudeKelly: @thedavidcook ahhh, Fo-Co-PAJ!!!!

What? I take it this guy doesn’t have any problem with 140 characters … or trying to make sense.

Wasn’t it CK that wrote FYE? Watch out, the guys seems to like it rough!

Hmm, did he work on DCTR?

Claude Kelly and David working together?, im surprised about that. But i hope they come up with a big radio smash together, i really would love for David to have one.

David Cook fan checking in for duty! Who’s Claude Kelly? Gosh I’m excitied for Cookie to be working on new music.

But i hope they come up with a big radio smash together, i really would love for David to have one.

Yeah, I’d like for him to have one too. Should be interesting, anyway, I am excited for new music. And if David wants to keep us posted like this… well, I might just survive the break (miss the YouTubes, though – miss the band, too!).

saga
12/05/2009 at 1:01 pm
Wasn’t it CK that wrote FYE? Watch out, the guy seems to like it rough!

Oh my Lord. Does this mean we could get a Cookie song about sex? That would do me in.

Oh my Lord. Does this mean we could get a Cookie song about sex? That would do me in.

LMAO

Oh my Lord. Does this mean we could get a Cookie song about sex? That would do me in.

Not just any sex, taboo sex…

Claude Kelly and David working together?, im surprised about that. But i hope they come up with a big radio smash together, i really would love for David to have one.

Yeah I would have never put those 2 together. Interesting. I wonder if any of their stuff will make the album.

David Cook fan checking in for duty! Who’s Claude Kelly? Gosh I’m excitied for Cookie to be working on new music.

Here

Here

And here.

thanks for the update re Claude Kelly tinawina. Think Cookie is gonna drive us all nuts with hints, and speculation – in a good way of course. I want him writing with NFT again, and working out all the songs with his great band. I want so much for him, cause then we get the music, and the shows and the pretty.

VOTE FOR ADAM ON VH1!!!!! He’s finally on the list.

Well, don’t get too enthusiastic. CK also wrote For Your Entertainment. Not my favorite song on Adam’s fabulous album!

Current iTunes overall ranks

LLWD #38
FYE #116
WWFM #155
FIBOU #280

Well, this tweet’s in English … kinda.

ClaudeKelly yo!!! @thedavidcook is killing it behind the mic! Geez. HUGE voice! sweet Jehozzefat!

Well, don’t get too enthusiastic. CK also wrote For Your Entertainment. Not my favorite song on Adam’s fabulous album!

Hehe, I love that song, especially the beat! But I really don’t see Cook going in that direction.

From BlogCritics Music:

Although a talented singer, Claude Kelly has been nicknamed the ‘Studio Beast’  for good reason. His songwriting credits include: ‘My Life Would Suck Without You’  (Kelly Clarkson), ‘Party in the USA’  (Miley Cyrus), ‘Forgive Me’  (Leona Lewis), ‘Blame It On Me’  (Chrisette Michele), ‘Like I Never Left’  (Whitney Houston), and ‘Circus’  (Britney Spears).

He’s got a few huge hits under his belt.

Oh, to be a fly on the wall…

I’m just happy to hear what David’s up to… if it’s jamming with a RAD DUDE, awesome

Claude Kelly tweet:

yo!!! @thedavidcook is killing it behind the mic! Geez. HUGE voice! sweet Jehozzefat!

Wow Claude Kelly is kind of a big shot. It will be interesting to see what they come up with.

Yay! DC’s going to have a radio hit on his next album!!! Woot! Since he’s writing with CK though it will have the DC print on it! I’m so excited!

OMG it’s ridiculous how excited I’m getting!

@ClaudeKelly: Where are all the David Cook fans? im in the studio with the incredible @thedavidcook now! Rockin the f&*k out!

Ummm just tell us where the studio is and we’ll be there! I’m kind of excited about Dave working with someone outside of his usual genre. He can bring a rock edge to any kind of song if given the chance to work with it and the results are usually very unique. As for Claude Kelly’s work..Some good, some bad. My Life Would Suck is one of my favorite Kelly Clarkson Songs and I think Britney’s Circus is actually good for a Britney song, so we’ll see. The bad would be Miley’s PITUSA, but then again..it’s Miley.

Claude Kelly and David working together?, im surprised about that.

After I heard the song below, nothing surprises me. It’s a rap remake that Cook did (with two rappers named Lyrycyst & Godz Disciple) of an Axium song called Feed Your Ego (FYE! LOL) during his axium days. I’m kind of fond of it, although the production isn’t great (and I think Cook’s vocals have improved since then):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSBEIVUqVGo
(I hope they weren’t playing at a club because I can only hear one person clapping at the end…)

Claude Kelly seems to like working with the Idols. He wrote with both Adam and Kris this summer.

My take: I normally don’t like Max Martin songs, but I love the Max Martin song on Carrie’s CD (Quitter). Maybe a Claude Kelly/DC collab would be awesome. If not, maybe they’ll ditch it. [smile]

So Adam’s music video is officially on the VH1 site so people can vote for it to be in the Top 20 countdown. It’ll be interesting to see if this gives the single any kind of boost. I have noticed that in the past few weeks, LLWD moves back up the iTunes charts on Saturday and Sunday — and I wonder if that has any connection to the fact that the music video has been in the Top 20 on VH1 the last 3 weeks — or whether it is just a coincidence.

Yep, Cookie has a huge, sweet, voice – and he kills it, yes he does.
I don’t like FYE, but I trust David Cook

It’s a rap remake that Cook did (with two rappers named Lyrycyst & Godz Disciple) of an Axium song called Feed Your Ego (FYE! LOL) during his axium days.

After hearing that, I kinda want him to work with a rapper. LOL.

Maybe a Claude Kelly/DC collab would be awesome. If not, maybe they’ll ditch it. [smile]

Yeah, I agree FolkFan, but hoping for the best because this collab could turn out to be RAD!!! Hee! (I don’t use that word.)

It’s hard to know what to expect from this colab but I’ll be keeping an open mind. I don’t think I can even remember the last time I used the word rad. Heh

girlygirl
12/05/2009 at 2:10 pm
So Adam’s music video is officially on the VH1 site so people can vote for it to be in the Top 20 countdown. It’ll be interesting to see if this gives the single any kind of boost. I have noticed that in the past few weeks, LLWD moves back up the iTunes charts on Saturday and Sunday ‘” and I wonder if that has any connection to the fact that the music video has been in the Top 20 on VH1 the last 3 weeks ‘” or whether it is just a coincidence.

Yes, I’ve noticed the same thing with LLWD. I think you may be right.

FYE MV goes on sale on iTunes on 12/15/09. I am very curious to see how well it sells. Also, there is a music video for WWFM in the works. No schedule on when it will be released [that I have seen]. But since WWFM is getting some respectable radio airplay — my bet is it is out before Christmas.

Doesn’t it seem like Claude Kelly should be working with Archie? I hope it makes the album because I am kinda intrigued.

Color me confused…but I thought that the chatter all year was that David Cook having to sing other people’s songs on his first album was what killed his cred as a writer/rock singer. I seem to recall reading that most people thought his “own” music was way better than anything anyone else wrote. And now the buzz is about him working with other songwriters and how that will give him a number one hit.

Guess I just wasn’t paying attention and that I got it all wrong.

After hearing that, I kinda want him to work with a rapper. LOL.

I know. It’s been a secret wish of mine Tinawina!

I have noticed that in the past few weeks, LLWD moves back up the iTunes charts on Saturday and Sunday ‘” and I wonder if that has any connection to the fact that the music video has been in the Top 20 on VH1 the last 3 weeks ‘” or whether it is just a coincidence.

No, that happened to Cook all last year too. That countdown moves product.

Color me confused’ ¦but I thought that the chatter all year was that David Cook having to sing other people’s songs on his first album was what killed his cred as a writer/rock singer. I seem to recall reading that most people thought his ‘own’  music was way better than anything anyone else wrote. And now the buzz is about him working with other songwriters and how that will give him a number one hit.

Guess I just wasn’t paying attention and that I got it all wrong.

Huh? LOL. Alrighty then.

Q3

Do you know if Allison’s MV has been sent to MTV or VH1?

“It’ll be interesting to see if this gives the single any kind of boost. I have noticed that in the past few weeks, LLWD moves back up the iTunes charts on Saturday and Sunday ‘” and I wonder if that has any connection to the fact that the music video has been in the Top 20 on VH1 the last 3 weeks ‘” or whether it is just a coincidence.”

I, too, have noticed LLWD makes strong moves on the weekends. I agree the VH1 appearances make a difference, but it’s also the Glee songs du jour that fall below LLWD on the weekends. And, he’s been making lots of appearances on TV and the radio play, blah blah. But I agree VH1 is part of the equation. I’m just thrilled the LLWD sales have stabilized in a really great spot.

I am also hopeful that LLWD finally cracking the LA radio market (starting to be played on the HAC station KBIG) will make a difference to sales. All those people living in the LA area have never heard LLWD on the radio, and so will just be starting to hear it. Comes at a great time.

ScorpioBSB
12/05/2009 at 1:40 pm
VOTE FOR ADAM ON VH1!!!!! He’s finally on the list.

Great! Thanks!

Also, there is a music video for WWFM in the works. No schedule on when it will be released [that I have seen]. But since WWFM is getting some respectable radio airplay ‘” my bet is it is out before Christmas.

Another music video?! Already? Somebody better make some money to pay for this.

Color me confused’ ¦but I thought that the chatter all year was that David Cook having to sing other people’s songs on his first album was what killed his cred as a writer/rock singer. I seem to recall reading that most people thought his ‘own’  music was way better than anything anyone else wrote. And now the buzz is about him working with other songwriters and how that will give him a number one hit.

The chatter was about them releasing and promoting singles that he did not write, such as Light On and Come Back to Me. Not songs he collaborated on. Every other song on the album — except Time of My Life — Cook either wrote or co-wrote and many of them would’ve been better singles than those two.

And now the buzz is about him working with other songwriters and how that will give him a number one hit.

About that number one hit….was it a collective buzz or just one bee? Trying to decide whether I should get excited or not.
(Ditto Sassycatz)

Who’s to say Claude isn’t writing WITH David? There’s no way any Idol is going to have 100% freedom with no input from established writers. If Kelly and Daughtry haven’t earned that yet David sure isn’t. And frankly I rather him shoot for a solid hit. Maybe bringing CK in is a sign of RCA releazing he needs a hit, too..especially for the very important sophomore album.

I am sure David C is working with CK because he wants to.

Another video of Kris from last night – Alright with Me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxA-Tfg2GDI

Bad sound at that jingle ball. Was Alison at the same one?

Another video of Kris from last night ‘“ Alright with Me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxA-Tfg2GDI

Good job Kris! I liked that.

The bad sound is not from the venue. The person whotook the video explained on aanother blod that she had the bad sound because she was close to a speaker and she took it with her phone.

It’s interesting that the FYE mv is being released and the WWFM mv (very excited about that one, expect it to be pretty lowkey) is being made. I am still kind of confused about the situation re: FYE and WWFM. FYE is still ahead of WWFM on iTunes (tho WWFM is climbing, and now FYE is off the iTunes chart: both are on the pops chart), but WWFM is getting more airplay (I think) and is being promoted (which makes sense, of course, after the AMAs). The FYE mv was expensive to produce and is somewhat different than the performance (more fun, less explicit), but I still wonder if RCA is throwing them both out to see what ends up going Top 40 (I think WWFM is close). FYE is not getting played on Z-100 in NYC, but WWFM gets multiple spins a day, as does LLWD, and Adam is being promoted by the djays and is on their homepage as special guest host. (I know Kris is playing; is Allison as well?)

In any case, I am voting for FYE on the video countdown (of course). I would say that Adam’s visibility this week (LKL, The View, Most Interesting People special, and maybe even the JDL’s benefit with Adam, if filmed) would help FYE, but I think it’s all going to WWFM.

I’m also saying that I have no idea.

Im not sure if this has been posted yet but Carrie Underwood is going to be on the Cover of the 2010 World Almanac with Mark Buehrle of the Chicago Whitesox and Barack Obama.

http://www.theboot.com/2009/12/03/carrie-underwood-world-almanac/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheBootCountryMusic+(The+Boot+Country+Music+Blog)

Suebrody! Someone mentioned in the last adam thread that WWFM got a spin at one of the Bostons station yday!

Finally!!! *jumping and down* I need to find out which one. Probably mix, b/c Kiss hates Adam (tho he is on their homepage). I am still listening to Z-100, b/c they love Adam. But I am happy to go back and forth if my hometown has finally come around.

saga

No — Kris was in Chicago, Allison was in Memphis

No, that happened to Cook all last year too. That countdown moves product.

This week Kris, Carrie, Daughtry & Kelly all had videos on VH1′s countdown. Adam fans, let’s add another Idol.

Woo Hoo (off to vote!)

Yes, Idols should rule the VH-1 MV charts. And it’s only right that Adam join Carrie, Daughtry and Kelly. IF RCA had released Lie, we might have had another mv from Cook.

*bitter*

Where are you all hearing a music video for WWFM is in the works?

suebrody
12/05/2009 at 3:17 pm
Finally!!! *jumping and down* I need to find out which one. Probably mix, b/c Kiss hates Adam (tho he is on their homepage). I am still listening to Z-100, b/c they love Adam. But I am happy to go back and forth if my hometown has finally come around

I *think* someone said it was WXLO 104.5.

Where are you all hearing a music video for WWFM is in the works?

It was twittred by someone who interviewed (or spoke to) Adam when he was at Hard Rock in San Diego.

Oh, yes, WXLO is in Worcester. I think they are the station that is having the concert with Kris. Still not Boston. Of course. Sigh.

Can’t wait for the WWFM mv. So curious………..

“Yes, Idols should rule the VH-1 MV charts. And it’s only right that Adam join Carrie, Daughtry and Kelly.”

LOL, Kris is there, too!

Suebrody: You’re saying that Kiss “hates” Adam? What?

WOW look at Archie. His Crush is included in the 2009 Greatest Pop and Rock Hits.
Way to go Archie.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jZ6fQTWMOrU/SxqXeyKmwEI/AAAAAAAAAH8/W3wmyHXI1Zs/s1600-h/YIPPPPPEEEEE.jpg

Well, I for one will be buying the fye music video. WWFM, no.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jZ6fQTWMOrU/SxqXeyKmwEI/AAAAAAAAAH8/W3wmyHXI1Zs/s1600-h/YIPPPPPEEEEE.jpg

With all love… what a weird list of songs for greatest pop hits this year! I mean, a PCD ballad? Amongst other weird additions.

WOW look at Archie. His Crush is included in the 2009 Greatest Pop and Rock Hits.
Way to go Archie.

congrats david!

GeminiDolly
12/05/2009 at 3:23 pm
Where are you all hearing a music video for WWFM is in the works?

It was on Twitter that Adam said it in San Diego at the Hard Rock event and in a iReport video posted on CNN.com from the same event.

Video surfaces of Elliott meeting Bobby Caldwell and singing What You Won’t Do for Love with him, in Japan late last year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDNE3GSP8IQ

Also two very nice examples of how happy musicians with amazing talent can be having small but solid careers, even if they don’t end up being superstars (and even if people can’t pronounce their names.)

Where are you all hearing a music video for WWFM is in the works?

I don ´t know, but I want videos for all the songs!!!!!!! A fan can dream

I don ´t know, but I want videos for all the songs!!!!!!! A fan can dream

Well it looks like this dream is gonna come true! LOL!

The chatter was about them releasing and promoting singles that he did not write, such as Light On and Come Back to Me. Not songs he collaborated on. Every other song on the album ‘” except Time of My Life ‘” Cook either wrote or co-wrote and many of them would’ve been better singles than those two.

Yeah, that’s pretty much it – at least for me – it isn’t that he didn’t write all his own stuff, who gets to do that as a newbie off Idol?, it’s that they released the two darn songs that he had *no* cowrite on. I like Light On just fine, but Come Back to Me over a bunch of other Cookie cowritten songs? THAT’S the part that bugs.

There’s no such thing as “rock cred” when you come off Idol, apparently. Not to the rock radio channels anyway

WOW look at Archie. His Crush is included in the 2009 Greatest Pop and Rock Hits.
Way to go Archie.

Here is a much better scan: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mTMx779hd-4/Sxq_nXHE-qI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/5fanXbjnVz8/s1600-h/greatest+hits.jpg

The 208-page music book contains 31 songs. Several of the Idols are represented:

* Crush (David Archuleta)
* Home Sweet Home (Carrie Underwood)
* My Life Would Suck Without You (Kelly Clarkson)
* One Step at a Time (Jordin Sparks)
* What About Now (Daughtry)
* What’s Right Is Right (Taylor Hicks)
* You Pulled Me Through (Jennifer Hudson)

http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/look_inside/19223344/image/309831

Archie’s “Crush” is also included in the “2009 Greatest POP & MOVIE Hits” sheet music book. Here are the Idols represented:

* Crush (David Archuleta)
* I Told You So (Carrie Underwood)
* My Life Would Suck Without You (Kelly Clarkson)
* You Pulled Me Through (Jennifer Hudson)

http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/look_inside/19250664

Congrats to all of the Idols that made the 2009 Greatest Hits. So happy for them.

This will probably get buried in all the comments about Adam, Kris, etc. but here’s a tweet from Elliott about a song that was just posted to youtube

@RBJchik its actually a demo i did last year..i dont even have a copy..just goes to show u cant even trust producers/studios/labels anymore!

This song is fantastic and I don’t know why it wasn’t on his CD but it is a pure gem. Elliott’s voice just soars in it. I hope you all listen to it. It’s beautiful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxM0n46dMf8

Archie’s ‘Crush’  is also included in the ’2009 Greatest POP & MOVIE Hits’  sheet music book. Here are the Idols represented:

I have his sheet music.

This will probably get buried in all the comments about Adam, Kris, etc. but here’s a tweet from Elliott about a song that was just posted to youtube

@RBJchik its actually a demo i did last year..i dont even have a copy..just goes to show u cant even trust producers/studios/labels anymore!

This song is fantastic and I don’t know why it wasn’t on his CD but it is a pure gem. Elliott’s voice just soars in it. I hope you all listen to it. It’s beautiful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxM0n46dMf8

Thanks for posting this! He sounds fabulous, as usual — when it comes to songs making or not making his cds, though….Well, something tells me that *he* sounds great on every darned thing they record! And then it comes down to tough choices.

Anyway, good day for us Elliott fans.

Because of the “getting lost” issue, I’m going to repost this link that I posted earlier, of Elliott singing What You Won’t Do for Love, in Japan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDNE3GSP8IQ

If anybody in the U.S. still wanted to listen to blue-eyed soul, I swear Elliott’d be topping the charts! But now that it’s a throwback genre, guess that’s not going to happen. … He still sounds fabulous to me, though!

gmn: Thanks for the Elliot song link. I really like it. Great voice!!!!

“Yay! DC’s going to have a radio hit on his next album!!! Woot! Since he’s writing with CK though it will have the DC print on it! I’m so excited!”

careful, don’t count your chicks before they are hatched- remember the Adam Storm? 300K to 400K 1st week? did not happened

“ScorpioBSB
12/05/2009 at 1:40 pm

VOTE FOR ADAM ON VH1!!!!! He’s finally on the list.
”

Link please…

http://www.vh1.com/shows/series/top_20_countdown/vote.jhtml

This is one place where Adam says that there is a MV being made for WWFM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yug3FtmP6rA&feature=sub

SueBrody

WXKS in Boston played WWFM today

Suebrody! Someone mentioned in the last adam thread that WWFM got a spin at one of the Bostons station yday!

Boston likes their idols. Plus last week I heard a DJ on one of the popular Boston stations described something as “Adam Lambert delicious”. I didn’t stick around to find out what he was talking about but I figured it meant he liked Adam. LOL.

If working with this Kelly guy means that Cook is more likely to have a big hit on DCTR2 then I’m all for it.

I’d love the next record to be more rock and have a rawer edge, but I’ve always said that I’d also like to see one or two radio/chart friendly rock or rock/pop songs on there (as with something like Greenday’s American Idiot). Much as I love Cook’s song writing, I don’t think that DC’s own songs, or any of his band members’ for that matter, have that instant ear catching drive and rhytmn, as yet. They tend to be slow burners, that grow on you as you discover more in them.

So, I’d be happy to see a mix of collaborations with established hit makers and solo-written songs.

Besides, it encourages me that a) RCA is organising sessions with top song writers, so they’re investing in DCTR2; and b) that the buzz coming out of the session is so positive. That alone makes me excited and on the edge of my seat to hear what they’ve been up to.

Wow. Elliott sounds incredible in that song!

Adam is already getting video #3? This has got to be the most expensive rollout in American Idol history.

Adam is already getting video #3? This has got to be the most expensive rollout in American Idol history.

Video #1 was free…

Adam just popped up on TMZ (dear god save me for actually watching this show), but not in a bad way – it was sort of a “jew or not a jew” segment. Apparently, everyone’s really surprised to learn Adam is actually jewish. Lol – I guess these people don’t know every detail about him like us

Wow. Elliott sounds incredible in that song!

Yeppers… true dat!!! And that was only a demo.

“Adam is already getting video #3? This has got to be the most expensive rollout in American Idol history.”

Yeah and Adam is paying for it in the end. so far it looks like he is the in the hole profit wise.

‘Adam is already getting video #3? This has got to be the most expensive rollout in American Idol history.’ 

TfM was paid for by Sony as part of the expenses for the movie. This isn’t an RCA thing and luckily, Adam isn’t responsible for the costs of that one.

‘Adam is already getting video #3? This has got to be the most expensive rollout in American Idol history.’ 

Yeah and Adam is paying for it in the end. so far it looks like he is the in the hole profit wise.

It will be interesting to see how the two vids from his album (not TFM from the 2012) do on ITUNES. During the season and shortly after, Adam was dominate on the ITUNES MV charts. I suspect this is why RCA is pouring the money into MVs.

It will be interesting to see how the two vids from his album (not TFM from the 2012) do on ITUNES.

I know I’ll be buying both of them for my iPod as soon as they are for sale. They might be expensive to make, but they sure aren’t expensive to distribute. However fans won’t be buying multiple copies

David Cook having to sing other people’s songs on his first album was what killed his cred as a writer/rock singer.

Huh. Somehow I missed the announcement for that particular funeral.

David Cook having to sing other people’s songs on his first album was what killed his cred as a writer/rock singer.

Huh. Somehow I missed the announcement for that particular funeral.

LMAO. That is funnnnnnyyyy.

Boston likes their idols. Plus last week I heard a DJ on one of the popular Boston stations described something as ‘Adam Lambert delicious’ . I didn’t stick around to find out what he was talking about but I figured it meant he liked Adam. LOL.

YAY!!!!

Adam IS delicious. HEH. Shock and awe b/c Billy Costa from KISS 108 FM *hates* Adam. That said, booyah on Boston FINALLY coming around. Maybe they knew I had started listening to Z-100 in NYC (j.k).

BTW, got my issue of Billboard w/ Adam and Kris on the cover in the mail today (no more Kradam, sorry). Sweet. Allison is in there, too. I haven’t read it yet, but there is a certain picture with ADAM AND HIS RED SHOES included.

Oh, and I have the video from TfM b/c…er…anyway, and I lurrrve it. Cannot wait to get the other two. OMG, please let WWFM be low key with just Adam singing earnestly. WIN.

Adam is a secular Jew. Just like me. JS Ironically, a friend at lunch today said, Do you mind if I ask if you’re a practicing Jew? I said that wasn’t a problem (I am not), but it is kind of funny, as if it something that you have to train for.

Video of Matt has surfaced singing “Have a Little Faith In Me” and “Steamroller Jam” at the Hayman Loft in Nashville on Nov. 15:

http://www.youtube.com/haymanloft

or

http://mattgiraudfans.forumotion.net/matt-there-is-nothing-small-about-you-f9/have-a-little-faith-in-me-nashville-mp3-t903.htm#14741

He sounds great.

It will be interesting to see how the two vids from his album (not TFM from the 2012) do on ITUNES.

I for one, will buy all the videos of Adam ´s songs.

I apologize if this has been posted already. It’s an article about Carrie’s Special.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091205/ap_en_ot/us_people_carrie_underwood

As will I.

BTW, at the Hard Rock Cafe ceremony, I Just Love You is playing in the background.

*melting*

suebrody and dyg1…I will also be buying them all.

Video of Matt has surfaced singing ‘Have a Little Faith In Me’  and ‘Steamroller Jam’  at the Hayman Loft in Nashville on Nov. 15:

http://www.youtube.com/haymanloft

Thanks for posting the Matt song. He sounds terrific!

Did I miss something? Is TFM music video available for purchase?

suebrody…I Just Love You…one of my favorites. Wonder if he’ll ever release it. Probably not.

suebrody
12/05/2009 at 6:51 pm
BTW, at the Hard Rock Cafe ceremony, I Just Love You is playing in the background.

*melting*

I know. I’ll go to sleep tonight with “I Just Love You” stuck in my head!

Did you notice in the video that when asked about a tour in his future (around the 3:50 mark, I think), he said something like, yeah – probably in the spring/don’t have anything set just yet but we’re working on it. Sounds sort of promising, don’t you think?

suebrody
12/05/2009 at 6:51 pm
BTW, at the Hard Rock Cafe ceremony, I Just Love You is playing in the background.

*melting*

I know. I’ll go to sleep tonight with ‘I Just Love You’  stuck in my head!

Did you notice in the video that when asked about a tour in his future (around the 3:50 mark, I think), he said something like, yeah ‘“ probably in the spring/don’t have anything set just yet but we’re working on it. Sounds sort of promising, don’t you think?

Gotta let you know – I actually dubbed “I Just Love You” in (there wasn’t any background music at the ceremony – other than FYE when Adam came in). After hearing the acoustics at the hotel (very echo-y) I thought the video needed a little something dreamy (and of course I was swooning)!

sux526 – great choice. I just love Adam singing IJLY.

suz526 – Great choice! I love Adam’s IJLU.

‘Adam is already getting video #3? This has got to be the most expensive rollout in American Idol history.’ 

I doubt it. My guess is that David Cook had the most expensive rollout in AI History — just because he was the last winner before all the budgets cut really slashed in the record industry.

But there are clearly different priorities on where the spend is being invested in Adam’s rollout — very little in traditional radio promo and advertising, more in television events. The radio promo spend is very hard to track or see but really adds up.

So far, Adam has 1 music video, AMA performance, host at 4 Jingle Balls [just Adam and security, no band], several TV appearances, some online ads.

Plus 1 music video for TfM, and a ton of free press and media that no artist could afford to buy.

I don’t think there is any public info on what the FYE music video cost but my guess is it cost a lot less than it looks like it cost. My guess is production costs were around $200k to $250k. It was all one location, in LA, a good choreographer, and some really fine editting and digital special effects.

We won’t know until we see it, but I bet they put together the WWFM MV for even less — it seems like the song lends itself to a simpler and less expensive concept. But it’s Adam so who knows.

I’m not sure if this was posted but clay Aiken talks about the kiss.I’ll try to find a link.

I hate the guy,but he makes a good point

All I know is that Blake’s video for Break Anotha cost him personally $250,000. And it honestly looks like it cost $30 so I have no idea what Adam or Cook’s videos cost:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm1et27hAWQ

Good Lord…check this out! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNVQQiqwqnI

suz526 ‘“ Great choice! I love Adam’s IJLU.

Excellent choice. That and Come Home are my favorite pre-Idol songs. So pretty. Also love Crazy, Dust in the Wind, Pop Goes the Camera, and Crawl Thru Fire, but IJLU and CH are the best.

I bet TPTB spend very little on WWFM. I don’t think it needs a lot. Maybe it can be like Cook’s LO? I don’t know how much Kris’s LLWD cost to make, but I am not guessing not a tremendous amt. Plus I would expect a contrast between FYE and WWFM makes sense, as they are such different kinds of songs.

If anyone wants to call Open House Party, the # is 800 669 1010

And there is an attempt to trend #monterrific (Monte Pittman from Adam’s band and Citizen Vein, but I am not sure why…

Good Lord’ ¦check this out! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNVQQiqwqnI

Er…WTF is this? DO NOT DO A COVER OF FYE EVER AGAIN, ODD ACOUSTIC GUITAR PERSON

ETA: No, TfM is not available for purchase, but someone made an mp3 of it. I will buy it the second it is available for purchase. Should that occur.

Suebrody – WTF is right!!

All I know is that Blake’s video for Break Anotha cost him personally $250,000. And it honestly looks like it cost $30 so I have no idea what Adam or Cook’s videos cost:

Wow. Oh so much for oh so little.

Er’ ¦WTF is this? DO NOT DO A COVER OF FYE EVER AGAIN, ODD ACOUSTIC GUITAR PERSON

What! I really liked that cover of FYE, but I’m partial to acoustic. And he wasn’t too bad to look at either.

Accoustic FYE! Haha, it doesn’t really have quite the right vibe for the lyrics though… I mean, this is not a broken heart song exactly.

That Blake mv was kinda sorta sad, tho I actually rather like the song. Me, and 10 other ppl, judging by sales.

I’m pretty sure LLWD was done on the cheap because it was done in one location and there was no casting, just Kris. I don’t think the director was really A-list either. The LO video even though it was rather stupid probably cost more and Wayne Isham was the director and I don’t think he’s really cheap. No clue about the CBTM video. I’ve been floored ever since learning that crappy video of Blake’s cost $250,000. Truly bizarre. That said I think if done its doable to have a good video without shelling out a ton of money.

Much as I love Cook’s song writing, I don’t think that DC’s own songs, or any of his band members’ for that matter, have that instant ear catching drive and rhytmn, as yet

I’m totally with you there! I know this is probably considered blasphemy in the fandom, but um, I don’t worship Neal and I don’t really care if he has a lot of input in the next CD *ducks flying objects*

I’m totally with you there! I know this is probably considered blasphemy in the fandom, but um, I don’t worship Neal and I don’t really care if he has a lot of input in the next CD *ducks flying objects*

*faints in shock*

Accoustic FYE! Haha, it doesn’t really have quite the right vibe for the lyrics though’ ¦

It wasn ´t bad. I just missed the S&M setting and feeling

Good Lord’ ¦check this out! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNVQQiqwqnI
Er’ ¦WTF is this? DO NOT DO A COVER OF FYE EVER AGAIN, ODD ACOUSTIC GUITAR PERSON

No issue with acoustic versions of anything, but gotta interpret the lyrics so they make sense. Adam did that with “Believe.” Bet Kris Allen could do FYE acoustically and make it sound right…just sayin’

93.3 in Tampa has a request site for mobile access so I’ve been requesting WWFM from my iPhone. About 10 minutes before the song is played it sends a text message. So far since 5pm yesterday they’ve played it 4 times. Not great, but better than no spins. After each play I request it again with my phone number so I get the next text.

Er’ ¦WTF is this? DO NOT DO A COVER OF FYE EVER AGAIN, ODD ACOUSTIC GUITAR PERSON

YouTube is famous (infamous) for mean comments but when I looked at the comments just now the dude got rave reviews. Is there something wrong with my ears? I seriously did not like it!

luval
12/05/2009 at 7:13 pm
Did I miss something? Is TFM music video available for purchase?

Wasn’t the TFM video available for free on itunes? (I have it and it’s not my favourite song – I do love WWFM and like FYE) Or are we talking about a different TFM? (acronyms sometimes confuse me – lol)

YouTube is famous (infamous) for mean comments but when I looked at the comments just now the dude got rave reviews. Is there something wrong with my ears? I seriously did not like it!

That dude could NOT sing. Extremely pitchy……Nothing wrong with your ears. The comments could not be for real.

I think you can still get the Time for Miracles video from sony and itunes here.
http://randomizeme.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/free-itunes-download-time-for-miracles-music-video-2012-by-adam-lambert/

I loved David Cook on AI but really wasn’t thrilled with his album. I really really wanted to like it, but ended up giving it to my step granddaughter and downloading from I-Tunes the two songs I liked. Grunge rock I guess isn’t my favorite. I know I’ll like his next one better, see I’m an optimist at heart. Was glad to see Taylor Hicks song made the 2009 Greatest Pop and Rock Hits. He really puts on a good show and would go see a Taylor concert if he comes anywhere near me touring. My other Idol favorite is Adam and can’t wait for the videos. IMO his is the best over-all album to come off of Idol and I’ve heard most of them an bought guite a few. Can’t say enough about it.

That dude could NOT sing. Extremely pitchy’ ¦’ ¦Nothing wrong with your ears. The comments could not be for real.

He puts up a lot of videos. I think he has a following.

Yes, it’s actually great that Adam fans are covering his songs. Interpretive dancing, however is sometimes skeery. Last year, there was a guy who did a knife dance to DC’s Permanent. I think his name was Juan and he was in his underpants. It was skeery.

I actually think Allison’s album is the best out of this AI8 class. I think Carrie, Daughtry and David Cook all had very good debut albums. Or at least, I thought so.

I actually think Allison’s album is the best out of this AI8 class.

I totally agree. All 3 albums are solid, but hers is the best to me.

I liked Cookie’s a lot. Daughtry wasn’t my thing. I loved Melinda’s and Brooke’s. I brought Fanny’s but I only liked some of it.

And that is my unwanted verdict on Idol albums. You can thank me later.

I’m seriously tempted to get Allison’s album. I want to give it a second listen, but I suspect I’ll succumb. I’m going to suggest that my sister-in-law listen to it—my niece might like it.

I need to give Melinda’s album a listen. And I have Brooke’s—it’s solid. Not radio-friendly, but ipod-friendly.

phil maciel will be a star and he sounded glorious doing FYI. As a Glittizen I demand Glamberts stop being so ready to jump to the kill. The guy obviously likes Adam from his written intro, and he is hot!

Here is a video of Danny performing “Tiny Life” at the City Saloon in Raleigh, NC last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOjdASSKgw0&feature=player_embedded#

That dude could NOT sing. Extremely pitchy’ ¦’ ¦Nothing wrong with your ears. The comments could not be for real.

Agreed.

BTW, WWFM got played on Open House Party. Whether or not this was arranged with 19, it’s still nice for it to get syndicated exposure. They just interviewed GaGa.

I love Cookie but do not love his album. However, the songs I like (e.g., Avalanche, Lie) do not seem to be the ones others likes (Heroes, Declaration). David likes the harder stuff like Bar-ba-sol, I believe, but I like acoustic!Cook (e.g., Permanent and Lie) Then again, I love ToML, so…and w/ Adam, I like the softer stuff (MW, Soaked, BO, Sleepwalker) and not as much songs like FYE and SFW. What I like best about Adam’s album is that there are, IMO, so many songs that could be radio singles AND that represent different genres. I know that many reviewers wanted a more cohesive sound. I say that the songs do work b/c they are just different parts of Adam. I would love a conceptual album, ala Muse, and we may get that next time (oh, yes, Soaked, Muse, yes yes), tho I doubt it, but that wouldn’t be radio-friendly tho possibly Tour appropriate (ala Tommy by the Who).

finally through with catching up on all the Adam stuff.the things ido…lol

Katherine mcpheee is listed as a “discovery download” on iTunes.seems weird to me.and sad.

I need to give Melinda’s album a listen. And I have Brooke’s'”it’s solid. Not radio-friendly, but ipod-friendly.

If you like old school soul and R&B, you should love Melinda’s album. It’s great IMO.

ITA on Brooke. Not a radio album at all, but I’ll be damned if I don’t listen to it a lot.

fadetowhite
12/05/2009 at 5:28 pm
If working with this Kelly guy means that Cook is more likely to have a big hit on DCTR2 then I’m all for it.

I’d love the next record to be more rock and have a rawer edge, but I’ve always said that I’d also like to see one or two radio/chart friendly rock or rock/pop songs on there (as with something like Greenday’s American Idiot). Much as I love Cook’s song writing, I don’t think that DC’s own songs, or any of his band members’ for that matter, have that instant ear catching drive and rhytmn, as yet. They tend to be slow burners, that grow on you as you discover more in them.

So, I’d be happy to see a mix of collaborations with established hit makers and solo-written songs.

Besides, it encourages me that a) RCA is organising sessions with top song writers, so they’re investing in DCTR2; and b) that the buzz coming out of the session is so positive. That alone makes me excited and on the edge of my seat to hear what they’ve been up to.

Great post, I agree with every word. My first thought on hearing the Claude Kelly news was wtf?Cook but on further reflection it could be an interesting collaboration. It’s great that he has time on this record to explore some different things, and I would assume things that don’t work will end up on the cutting room floor. It’s interesting CK has a background in piano, hasn’t Dave said several times he’d like to bring more of a piano driven element to DCTR2?

David Cook having to sing other people’s songs on his first album was what killed his cred as a writer/rock singer.

I seriously doubt than anyone who cares that much about writing credits would give an AI winner much of a break on the “cred” factor anyway.

Glamberts need to stop acting like this: http://media.photobucket.com/image/pitbull/mykmittruckerk/pitbull.jpg

and more like this:

http://i.peperonity.com/c/379B2C/714806/ssc3/home/087/enchanted/1188668488_1fy0h9g4.jpg_320_320_0_9223372036854775000_0_1_0.jpg

just saying…which one do you think HH likes best?

sneezepaddle, I’ll see what I can do about that.

Speaking of…one of mj’s posters (not me) got thru on Open House Party and requested WWFM (which they got played; the djay made fun of her, and she said, I wanna hear that new song by Adam Lambert, as if she had NO IDEA WHAT IT WAS).

Oh, you go, Glamberts.

BTW, it does not matter who writes the song, it cares how the song SOUNDS. JMHO. I guess if you’re a singer/songwriter (like Ray Lamontagne) it matters. O/W, not so much or at all.

LOL Suebrody! That was me! I do sound country don’t I? Dying over here! I knew if I didn’t act like a Glambert they would be more likely to play it. lol

sneezepaddle…or how about this:

http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/adam-lambert-fan.jpg

Here is a video of Danny performing ‘Tiny Life’  at the City Saloon in Raleigh, NC last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOjdASSKgw0

Really liked this. That same person posted two other videos also, of Danny singing his single My Best Days and the ballad It’s Only.

Looks like it was a good evening for Danny. I think this was his first performance in a public country music club, possibly at a public venue of any type. Any others I can think of were private fundraisers or the radio station events.

alaadam
12/05/2009 at 10:32 pm

LOL Suebrody! That was me! I do sound country don’t I? Dying over here! I knew if I didn’t act like a Glambert they would be more likely to play it. lol

It was priceless. Yeah, if you had said, well, it’s the second track on the album, and they are going to start filming a mv for it and Adam will be on The View on Thursday…yeah, he probably would have run from the phone.

sneezepaddle’ ¦or how about this:

http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/adam-lambert-fan.jpg

MWAHAHAHAHA

ETA: WWFM is currently #10 on the OHP list of requests this week. And it is certainly NOT b/c any of us are calling. Perish the thought.

Suebrody I am an Adam fan. I love him and scour the web daily just to see him. I hope you are not trying to diss me.

Here is Danny’s performance of “It’s Only” from the City Saloon in Raleigh, NC:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqRC3rDe2vM

Oh, no, not at all, sneezepaddle. I thought it was very funny!!! And very true. This would be why some of us spend a great deal of our weekends calling Open House Party!!! *no life*

By which I mean, *I* have no life. I could not speak for the others. Sorry for giving you the wrong impression.

See, I love MindyDoo’s voice and interpretive abilities. I don’t actually love old school R&B. Otherwise, I would have probably the CD without even bothering to listen to it. [I think I listened to the first single? That sounds right.] If there were any Idol whose music I would buy just to support the Idol, it would be MindyDoo.

suebrody’ ¦I Just Love You’ ¦one of my favorites. Wonder if he’ll ever release it. Probably not.

Oh, I love that song – that’s the song I plan to use whenever I have any doubters who don’t think Adam can actually do super low key – I dub it “Adam doing folk” – in a really good way

And I too will buy FYE and WWFM the MVs. But seriously, the timing for the FYE purchase does suck, because it is very easy to get a good copy of that for free online now. I will buy one too, but just saying, with it so easy to get this stuff, it really does suck for the music business (hence low album sales for everyone etc.) I guess the trick is to just market everything to the SuBo, over-60 crowd, who don’t know how to get this stuff online for free. J/K – sorta.

Oh, and also hoping for a lowkey WWFM vid – just Adam in a room, super minimal – it would look amazing. It could also work outdoors – walking on the street or something (but not the Blake vid look – dear god that was awful)

phil maciel will be a star and he sounded glorious doing FYI. As a Glittizen I demand Glamberts stop being so ready to jump to the kill. The guy obviously likes Adam from his written intro, and he is hot!

I don’t have anything against the guy, but he just can’t sing. I LOVE anyone that love’s Adam, and it’s sweet that he likes the song and wants to cover it…..but he still can’t sing. Very pitchy. IMHO, that is…..

I’ve been floored ever since learning that crappy video of Blake’s cost $250,000. Truly bizarre. That said I think if done its doable to have a good video without shelling out a ton of money.

Yeah, count me among those who can’t believe that’s how much Blake’s cost – however, it can cost a lot more if things go wrong with the shoot – if there are delays, or schedule issues, or if they have to change concept for whatever reason, those things could have contributed to the higher price.

But it makes me think of vids like Single Ladies – that one is very simple, yet brilliant (and I’m sorry I’m gonna have to interrupt you Taylor, but…j/k – lol). I don’t know how much that one cost, but something like that could have actually been made rather cheaply, I think.

Okay SueBrody…I remember your article in USToday. You are a long time Adam fan…so am I. What is an open house party?

Yes, that exactly how I imagine WWFM. Very, very introspective. I do not expect to see a male or female in this video (gee, why not?). Just Adam, and then maybe the band behind him. I want to see him on a beach, walking or sitting on the rocks. Mournful. And I want people to know that Adam can do very soft and pretty, and IJLY is the one. And CH is the one where he is as real as possible.

Anyway, regarding the video:

Calling Adam’s handlers…

I agree re: Single Ladies. It totally works b/c you remember it for its simplicity and that one little hand movement. That’s all you need. Sometimes understated wins the day.

sneezepaddle, it is a syndicated radio show that plays on Sat and Sunday nights from 7-12. I can’t get it locally, but there are a number of stations that stream it. It’s more for teenagers, but now that Adam is being played, I have regressed.

Here is where I stream it:

http://v3.player.abacast.com/player/player.php?pid=mgb_wkhq

It’s a request show, and the number to call is

800 669 1010

It was suggested that TPTB gave them the song to play (ahem), but I am not sure about that. They interviewed Adam last week, so who knows? But it certainly gets a lot of callers, and is #10 this week in the countdown, so to speak.

MTV has a lot to answer for. Not every song can or should be made acoustic… and I love a good acoustic track as much as the next girl. But just um – NO, not with those lyrics, just total lost in translation.

On WWFM video – Adam loves to tell a story and seeing that song is a story happening via the lyrics I would expect to see that reflected in the video. He might be the first guy to actually show a genuine take on a gay relationship in his video… or have there been others?

suebrody
12/05/2009 at 11:14 pm

sneezepaddle, it is a syndicated radio show that plays on Sat and Sunday nights from 7-12.

so the same songs will be played in different stations in rotation? like the Ryan Secrete show?

I know this is probably considered blasphemy in the fandom, but um, I don’t worship Neal and I don’t really care if he has a lot of input in the next CD *ducks flying objects*

Trina there is a cyber-hug coming your way so no need to duck. I love Neal’s guitar playing but I am not a fan of the songs he wrote for MWK (except for Anodyne). I dislike that song “Make Me” with the fire of a thousand suns, I think KOTN makes Cook sound (gasp!) pitchy and I think Andy sounds much better on THH, his solo project than on MWK. There. I said it.

Cook is a very good songwriter (I’m a big fan of both Analogue Heart and DCTR) and I think he has the ability to write a radio friendly tune just as good as anyone else. It’s his taste in music and a degree of stubborness that makes him elect to not perform the usual crowdpleasers on a regular basis. I base this on his choice of setlists throughout the tour, which I usually found very WTF (especially knowing the songs that he could play). I think Montreal will always be his best concert because he had to incorporate songs he didn’t usually play and also forced to vary the arrangements and go acoustic more than usual. Similarly, a lot of his most popular covers will continue to be the ones from idol, partially because he was forced to work with popular mainstream songs rather than his obscure song of choice, like that NIN song that I have not-so-affectionately renamed “Every line sounds Exactly the same”. I actually like a lot of his covers on tour, but if he played ABMB or Hello or Billie Jean that wouldn’t suck either. Anyway, Cook will always be my favorite idol for hundreds of reasons. The fact that I don’t always understand his taste is probably why he will always keep surprising me.

sneezepaddle, it is a syndicated radio show that plays on Sat and Sunday nights from 7-12.

so the same songs will be played in different stations in rotation? like the Ryan Secrete show?

I don’t think so. It’s a show that plays the same songs, once or twice per show, and it’s syndicated. However, I don’t think it impacts whether a station actually plays those songs (but I could be wrong about that). I guess a station can decide to only play it, for, say, 3 hours and not 5, but typically it’s just for that time slot (tho the station’s call letters are stated, so it’s like OHP on 103 or whatever. I don’t know know if this factors into radio spins, but I doubt it.

Bridgey, this is EXACTLY what I was thinking. I saw him with a picture of a guy or walking away from him or whatever, to reflect the lyrics. It doesn’t specify a gender, but then again, neither does Cook’s CBTM (I don’t think) or LO. Would 19/RCA play the gender card at this point? I wonder. And is it necessary? I guess it matters how the song is interpreted, and it does NOT have to be a relationship, per se.

On WWFM video ‘“ Adam loves to tell a story and seeing that song is a story happening via the lyrics I would expect to see that reflected in the video. He might be the first guy to actually show a genuine take on a gay relationship in his video’ ¦ or have there been others?

I can’t think of any right now…
But something tells me Adam is not going to want anything controversial for this video… I could be wrong, ofcourse, and I’ll be as happy as hell to be wrong, but I think he’s not enjoying his current “political” status and let’s face it, if he has a video that specifically shows a gay relationship, it will, once again, be in the headlines for being a statement, and no one will discuss the actual music.
I hate the fact that his choices are so complicated, but that’s why I never judge him (except when he’s off key- that is UNACCEPTABLE! ) and just fully support anything he chooses to do.

I agree. I see him solo with the band coming in at the end. He could be sitting on a beach or in a club (DOUBTFUL) or in his room or in a recording studio or whatever (hey, he could be in a deserted bldg with ripped up sheets…oh, wait, that’s been taken ). He is just singing and maybe we see this interspersed with the band, but that’s it.

Yes. This would be an awesome video. Let’s do this, people!

I can actually see the vid having gay and hetero couples working through stuff with Adam weaving throughout the scenes singing song. But heading into fiction here so will stop. Suffice to say will be a very different video from FYE for sure and that will once again underline how versatile he is.

Wouldn’t it be cool to have two Adam music vidoes dominating the charts at once (not that he’s dominating anything write now, but hey, I can dream!! And also, the FYE vid just became available for voting on VH1 ydy, so who knows…)

Former contestant Matt Sato doing a version of WWFM not bad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK_CxOXOnTY

WWFM got 164 spins today and 620 for the week-not too shabby! Hoping for more adds next week and 1000 spins!

That is AWESOME! I think WWFM goes Top 40 next week. Appearances on B Walters, The View, and LKL cannot hurt (well, we’ll see w/ The View, ha).

wwfm today:

53 39 LAMBERT, ADAM Whataya Want From Me RCA/RCAMG 134 73 61

ETA, just copy some explanation of the numbers for other site:

Last week same day he was #53 for daily spins. Today (Saturday) he landed at #39. He moved from 73 spins on last Saturday to 134 spins today.

The #39 is a one day number. He’s officially at #53 on the top 40 chart as of today, but that’s up from #62 last week. The comparison of how many spins he got last sat. to this sat. is significant tho because it means he should keep making big jumps up the chart. He almost doubled his spins from last sat. to this sat.

This should get it to the high 40′s. They count from Sunday-Saturday, so this week is over. BUT if it gets played again on OHP Sun night and next Sat it should make the top40 the following week. Not that I plan on requesting it..or listening all night…nope, not me

Yeah, WWFM.

I really LOVE Matt Sato’s version. I need to look at his other vids, me thinks, to see why he didn’t go further. (Plus he’s very cute. And funny.)

Yeah, OHP. Who listens to OHP? Oh, wait…8)

I loved Matt’s cover. Good voice….

I thought I was going to sleep but I’m good for one more round–

I think that we are going to see lots of videos where Adam plays the master of ceremonies where he oversees other people who are doing stuff.

I can’t imagine he is going to want to make WWFM about a relationship where he is pining for a boy. I’d be into such a video, but they are not going to want to go there right now. Maybe later. On the other hand, Adam would look a bit ridiculous in a video pining over a female romantic interest. That just isn’t going to work.

For now, I think he’s kind of stuck and will play master of ceremonies like he did in the FYE video or he just won’t have many other people in the video. He’s definitely forging a new path. Whatever he does, I’ll support him.

It’s a bit sad really. In real life he talks about how he is always the best friend and not the boyfriend. I would guess that many of his friends look to him for relationship advice and comfort (e.g. his explanation of the lyrics from Broken Open), but he’s not the one in the relationship.

Here’s to BB finding the love of his life!! Sniff. (I’m waaaay too invested!!)

Good night for reals!

WOW, Adam spin count is pretty good. Yes, maybe TOP 40 for next week!!

WWFM got 164 spins today and 620 for the week-not too shabby! Hoping for more adds next week and 1000 spins!

That’s pretty good seeing it has only been promoted heavily for a bit over a week now. Very promising. How many spins do the records in the top 20 have?

Now I feel sad. (Not about the spins–that’s awesome!)

I really have always felt this sense of Adam as being on the outside looking in. I mean, he sort of was the performer every week, and he changed it up, and that was really cool and exciting, but I always thought, well, where’s Adam? Where is the authentic Adam? And the one week where I really, really felt it was during MW. Because, esp the first time, he just sat and sang (and then stood and sang). So there were no theatrics. He just took a song that he personally felt connected to and sang it. And he did so brilliantly and took everyone’s breath away (who saw it, FOX, you idiots). And Simon saw it and everyone did. Now, mind you, I enjoyed all of his other performances–I think ACIGC was my next favorite, b/c that was also very passionate–but it’s MW that just hit me *here*. And so no matter how much Adam glams it up, and I know he loves to, and he can, and he is brilliant at just about anything, it’s when he sings Broken Open or Soaked (and now WWFM) that I go, THERE. That’s the authentic Adam. Or at least a real part of him (like I would know).

So when he sings “It’s me, I’m a freak, but thanks for loving me, cause you’re doing it perfectly,” and his voice cracks, I just tear up. I think that has become increasingly meaningful for him. It has for me, anyway. And he can have people throwing themselves at him, and they do, but at the end of the day, it’s just Adam. Solo. And I don’t know. That makes me kind of sad. I hope he’s not sad.

God, I feel like I’m his therapist or something.

Anyway…I would like a very authentic video of WWFM. I mean, just him, b/c it is just about him, really (or the character, I guess). I don’t want anyone else in there, unless it’s someone to comfort him, but then who would that be? It gets sticky, and that’s the last thing we need right now. So just Adam and his band is good w/ me.

And I get really excited when I hear it on the radio, b/c it’s so much better than most of the other crap (Tick Toc can kiss my ass) you hear.

‘k, that’s it for me. laterz.

P.S. Sorry for getting a tad emotional there. I guess this week has been sort of tough for Adam fans (okay, this one). Can’t wait for the coming week, and maybe…Top 40?! And Matt Sato is only 18 or 19, so that’s cool. Plenty of time for him.

Can TOTALLY relate suebrody!! Laterz…

We all have different sides to our personas and Adam is no different. He can be the introspective guy AND the wild child – I see them both as authentic and don’t feel more or less connected to either.

I think from a sanity standpoint every performer puts on a cloak, in Adam’s case it is on occasion a real one as opposed to the metaphorical one many wear. But I must say I have a particular soft spot for outrageous, want to wear a flaming headress Adam – the kid who loved to play dress up and had the halloween costume trunk out all year, now gets to do it on the big stage and you can just see the gleam of amusement and absolute enjoyment in his eyes when he does – and right there I am with him and along for the ride 100%.

I don’t worship Neal and I don’t really care if he has a lot of input in the next CD *ducks flying objects*

Trina, I am with you. Everytime when I hear David is working on his next album at some place, and Neal is somewhere else, I feel kind of relieved.

Similarly, a lot of his most popular covers will continue to be the ones from idol, partially because he was forced to work with popular mainstream songs rather than his obscure song of choice, like that NIN song that I have not-so-affectionately renamed ‘Every line sounds Exactly the same’ .

LOLOL! I love that song and that performance, but that’s hilarious.

DC has made pretty much every cover I’ve ever heard him sing sound better than the original (the two Beatle songs and the one Duran Duran song were the only ones that didn’t work for me). He’s just damn good at covers, and I bet he’ll always throw in a few in performances and maybe even recordings, even as he busts his ass to firmly establish his own musical identity. And I do think it will be his own and not anything Neal-driven. I like Neal — I certainly don’t worship him, but I like his stuff — but I don’t think he and DC are joined at the hip for all eternity, nor should they be.

“So when he sings ‘It’s me, I’m a freak, but thanks for loving me, cause you’re doing it perfectly,’  and his voice cracks, I just tear up. I think that has become increasingly meaningful for him. It has for me, anyway. And he can have people throwing themselves at him, and they do, but at the end of the day, it’s just Adam. Solo. And I don’t know. That makes me kind of sad. I hope he’s not sad.”

SueBrody, he’s too busy to be sad. I get a headache just reading what he has to do in one day, much less 1 week!!! I’m going to try to see him at the Y100 Jingle Ball next Sat. in Sunrise, Fla. Have to make sure he’s really coming first though.

http://www.mr-l.org/jay-leno-wears-adam-lamberts-kiss-performance-costume-video/

Just watch the first minute of this. Pretty funny

Then this one:
http://www.mr-l.org/jay-lenos-parody-of-adam-lamberts-amas-performance-video/

Jay cracked me up.

WWFM got 164 spins today and 620 for the week-not too shabby! Hoping for more adds next week and 1000 spins!

That’s pretty good seeing it has only been promoted heavily for a bit over a week now. Very promising. How many spins do the records in the top 20 have?

#20 has about 3300. #1 has more than 9000

How many spins do the records in the top 20 have?

#20 has about 3300. #1 has more than 9000

Well that’s a great goal to shoot for – let’s hope it keeps on rising. The publicity this week should help and those jingle thingy’s. LOL. Radio is a fickle bitch so who knows… is a bit like a flywheel. Turns slowly at first but then its own momentum carries it forward and it picks up speed faster as the resistance lowers. Once enough stations start playing it others come along – herd mentality!

Similarly, a lot of his most popular covers will continue to be the ones from idol, partially because he was forced to work with popular mainstream songs rather than his obscure song of choice, like that NIN song that I have not-so-affectionately renamed ‘Every line sounds Exactly the same’ .

Oh, I don’t know. Considering the battle to the death that hardcore Alice in Chain fans are having over David’s cover of Man in the Box (e.g., hey, that didn’t suck but AI sucks, wait, what am I saying? or Wow, didn’t expect it to be this good, or Jerry should kick their new lead vox off the band and get this guy), I’m thinking he’s doing okay with his covers of “obscure” songs.

Happy to see WWFM do well. I have read somewhere that radio stations freezes their playlists over the holiday, so let’s hope it gets in there before that.

I have read somewhere that radio stations freezes their playlists over the holiday

Ahh so that would be why I get postal with the repetition on the radio over the holidays. All makes sense now.

I have read somewhere that radio stations freezes their playlists over the holiday

Ahh so that would be why I get postal with the repetition on the radio over the holidays. All makes sense now.

Saga- Really? But how long are “the holidays”? Isn’t Christmas two days or something? If it were Hannuka, I would see the problem, it being eight days and all, lol…

bridgeymah- I don’t suppose WWYFM or FYE are playing in radio stations in Australia yet, are they??

I read from the 12/15 to the 1/05. Might not be right though.

I am not really sure what freezing mean. Does it mean they won’t add a new song?

Just wanna say Man in the Box isn’t obscure. That said, DC’s best covers are not from AI only IMO. Died In Your Arms and Little Lies and Hot for teacher are kickawesome. But yeah the NIN cover didn’t do it for me either.

I can see maybe the music video for WWFM being about Adams audience or the press. In a very abstract setting

Well, I certainly have no idea. I didn’t think Christmas was that long… and I don’t think they ever freeze up the radio where I’m from (except for weekends, I guess).
I mean, with all optimism- WWFM doesn’t really have a chance to get over 3300 spins in just a week to make top 20…
I hope nothing freezes

Oh, and DC did two kick ass covers at the tampa bay concert, Shattered Dreams and…I can’t remember the other right now, it’s early

sr4mjc- oh yeah! i can totally see a video a la Madonna’s “Substitute for love” where he’s in slow motion with press confrences and all the paparazzis stalking him…
Then again- people would just accuse him of being presumptuous…
Gah!!! Too much analyzing!!
I will just be happy to see his gorgeous face on it… (oh wait, what if it’s this concept video where we can’t see him at all?…..too much analyzing, did I already say???)

When Adam performs on The View, will it be with the band? Do they all have to fly there? Or will he prerecord his song back home for the show? Just curious how they can all fly back and forth, and does The View pay for them to be on the show and their expenses? Ha I guess someone might know, or not! LOL

Since we are playing crystal ball with mv for wwfm…..I think it will be super simple….Adam looking really gorgeous, not overly made up, in a cool yet simply outfit, singing straight to the audience, maybe sitting down during the verses, and then full out with his band behind him during the choruses…..i don’t think there will be other “relationships” or anything fancy…..just Adam singing and looking hot

Idols on unpublished Top 40 chart

62 53 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 485 237 248 5.354
65 73 JASON CASTRO Let’s Just Fall In Love Again 164 209 -45 0.325
77 80 ALLISON IRAHETA Friday I’ll Be Over U 107 105 2 0.302
67 81 ADAM LAMBERT For Your Entertainment 94 195 -101 0.237

WWFM has a very strong bullet and FYE is going down, down.
Also spins on Pop and HAC are counted separately. So 485 pop spins for WWFM.

To break into the Top 40, somewhere between 900-1,000 spins are needed.

Just curious how they can all fly back and forth, and does The View pay for them to be on the show and their expenses?

Typically, these shows pay union scale to the people who come on the show to be interviewed. I think the current rate is less than $1000. It’s what’s required by the various actor unions. I’m not sure if the band members get paid a thing.

These talk shows are mutually beneficial for all. Talk shows need guests, but guests need the exposure. It’s considered a promo expense for the act to go on these shows and perform. If they don’t think that they can get enough exposure from the show just by appearing to cover their expenses, they just don’t go on the show.

During Longineu’s twitter party last night, he tweeted:

Longineu: @omgthoseeyes Yes!!! Im really excited to b on the View!!! U all gonna watch??

So it looks like the band will be with Adam for that performance.

Alright!!! I don’t know, but it makes me happy that they’re investing in the important stuff- such as the existence of a BAND.
If you want to impress, you can’t look cheap by singing with some playback…

Oh, I don’t know. Considering the battle to the death that hardcore Alice in Chain fans are having over David’s cover of Man in the Box (e.g., hey, that didn’t suck but AI sucks, wait, what am I saying? or Wow, didn’t expect it to be this good, or Jerry should kick their new lead vox off the band and get this guy), I’m thinking he’s doing okay with his covers of ‘obscure’  songs.

I have a hard time criticizing Cook because it’s always taken the wrong way. You should know by now that I love nearly all his covers (except for one or two), but he’s trying to expand his fandom . MITB is probably his least obscure song (at least for young people) and one of his best covers IMO . He doesn’t play it half as much as he should, given that it is such a guy magnet (Little Lies gets more stage time..another WTF discrepancy IMO). However, even MITB isn’t that well known by young people and a few riled up Alice in Chains fans is hardly a revolution, judging by the view count on his concert performances. If you think I’m talking rubbish, I would watch the substandard BEP cover by a completely unknown guy and pay special attention to the view count. There are tons of examples like that on the internet (Britney covers can easily get over a million views). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YmplaLHERo&feature=related
So while I personally am very impressed with Cook, it might not kill him to cover one or two songs that will get him the attention he deserves. It’s not like Johnny hates Jazz is more respectable than Britney, Lady Gaga or the BEP…..(and no I do not want him to cover Boom Boom Pow…this is just an example of what a popular song can do)

I really have always felt this sense of Adam as being on the outside looking in. I mean, he sort of was the performer every week, and he changed it up, and that was really cool and exciting, but I always thought, well, where’s Adam? Where is the authentic Adam? And the one week where I really, really felt it was during MW. Because, esp the first time, he just sat and sang (and then stood and sang). So there were no theatrics. He just took a song that he personally felt connected to and sang it. And he did so brilliantly and took everyone’s breath away (who saw it, FOX, you idiots).

IMO that Mad World performance was every bit as calculated and staged as anything else he has ever done- it was 100% theatrics. Every tiny detail was calculated to evoke that feeling that you felt- one of authentic pathos. If you watch it closely you can even see him struggle to remain still so as not to disturb the mood- his left foot even gets away with a twitch at one point. Not that I didn’t love it and not that it didn’t show us a piece of Adam, but IMO no more so than any the rest of them.

Just because it was visually simple doesn’t mean it wasn’t complicated to put together. Conveying the introspective aspect of a person is difficult and he did it very well, but it was still a construct. It it had been a simple sit and sing he wouldn’t have had to spray paint his boots to match the pants to match the chair to match the uplight. The hair was so “boy next door” as to be a caricature of normalcy- even at his most casual he doesn’t look that regular.

None of this is a criticism- I am Adam’s biggest fan. But I also recognize that he does what he does intentionally and that nothing is an accident with him.

I would probably say that Adams most stripped down performance was TOMT… where there was this intimate accoustic setting. I agree that MW was very staged. That light and the chair was awesome though. Loved it! And you couldn’t really see his face and had to focus on the haunting lyrics? Very smart!

That said, DC’s best covers are not from AI only IMO. Died In Your Arms and Little Lies and Hot for teacher are kickawesome. But yeah the NIN cover didn’t do it for me either.

When I said popular, I didn’t mean best (and I was thinking from the perspective of the casual AI fans)

I rewatched Beth yesterday (MJ’s hard rock thread) and I have to say that I think that is Adams most provocative performance imo (more so than the AMA’s). I don’t know why it seem to have flown above everyones head. Dressed as a black angel/choir boy with rhinestones and singing about me and the boys? Hello???

Once you meet Adam in person, you realize he is the consumate performer. Seriously, he is bigger than life on stage, all raw sexual energy. But in person, he is this nice, well mannered guy. It’s the weirdest thing! Watching him on stage, he emits this energy that is completely different from his off stage presence. It’s like he has a switch that activates when he hits the stage. I love both of these persona. I think it is what makes Adam so cool. Sex on stage, a guy you would love to hang out with off stage. I can totally believe that he got taken by the moment during his AMA performance but I would also believe that the actually performance wasn’t all that different from rehersals. I think ABC knew what was going on and expected some fall out but maybe got a little more than they bargained for. I just saw an exerpt from the Joy Behar show and the reporter said as much. But regarding his theatricality. I think this is what Kara meant during Hollywood week about performing a song vs owning the song. I think Adam still has to stop thinking “performance” now that he is in the music business and not the theatre business. If he continues to work more on connecting with the song and the audience, he will be huge.

I think Adam still has to stop thinking ‘performance’  now that he is in the music business and not the theatre business. If he continues to work more on connecting with the song and the audience, he will be huge.

Yeah I am with you on this. Like it best when he is not “performing” but just singing. It’s not that I don’t like theatrics, for example I love the Beth performance because it is so OTT, but it easily becomes too much.

I also think he uses too much expression in his face for the TV sometimes. You can use much smaller expressions with the TV than in theatre. I am not really 100% happy with WWFM because of this. It becomes too sentimental at times (the expression on his face). He just needs to hint it and the TV camera will catch it.

Ya that Beth performance was so awsome, and I caught the double lyrics of me and the boys, cause didnt Kiss say the same words, but different meanings? IDK

Hey- I was just going to say that TOMT was the most “authentic” too.

But, yeah, Adam always acts out his songs.

I’ve written this before, but I love that he does this- because he gives meaning to his lyrics, much more than your average singer, who just stands there and sings, or even dances around- but it’s only about the melody, and not about the actual meaning of the song…

It’s like, Adam will not let you get away without understanding exactly what he’s singing about. Some people find it too “dramatic”- but I think it’s fantastic!

But maybe that’s just because I’m a theatre lover!

I rewatched Beth yesterday (MJ’s hard rock thread) and I have to say that I think that is Adams most provocative performance imo (more so than the AMA’s). I don’t know why it seem to have flown above everyones head. Dressed as a black angel/choir boy with rhinestones and singing about me and the boys? Hello???

Yes, I always wondered why people didn’t really comment on the lyrics. I mean, people were saying that it was a beautiful performance, but really, those eyebrows and that look at the end…

I can see maybe the music video for WWFM being about Adams audience or the press. In a very abstract setting

ITA- That’s what I think too! When I hear Adam sing that song, I always interpret it as a song sung to fans and or press. Probably because he sang it right after the AMA.

In regards to the View, if he doesn’t get to bring the whole band with him, I think he will do an acoustic version of WWFM with Monte . I think it would be beautiful.

Ya that Beth performance was so awsome, and I caught the double lyrics of me and the boys, cause didnt Kiss say the same words, but different meanings? IDK

Rewatching it, you get the feeling he doesn’t really care about Beth (heh) but… Me and The Boys …

universal
12/06/2009 at 9:54 am
I rewatched Beth yesterday (MJ’s hard rock thread) and I have to say that I think that is Adams most provocative performance imo (more so than the AMA’s). I don’t know why it seem to have flown above everyones head. Dressed as a black angel/choir boy with rhinestones and singing about me and the boys? Hello???

Yes, I always wondered why people didn’t really comment on the lyrics. I mean, people were saying that it was a beautiful performance, but really, those eyebrows’ ¦

Oh- I actually remember the recap done by “HotelAngel”, who’s this southern gay guy who I found to be really funny, even though he wasn’t a big fan of Adam’s (although he did eventually choose ROF to be the best performance of the season, to all the reader’s surprise) and I remember him saying he was wondering why the hell Adam was singing a song about “Beth” and then said to himself “ohhhh, now I see” after he got to the part about “me and the boys will be playing all night long”…. ha! Good times!!

In regards to the View, if he doesn’t get to bring the whole band with him, I think he will do an acoustic version of WWFM with Monte . I think it would be beautiful.

LG tweeted that he would be with Adam on the view so that means the whole band.

I love the visuals – I love the creativity of the “total effect”. The staging, lighting, dress, dancing etc. is all part of the whole…as much as the arrrangements, vocals, phrasing etc.

Who among us only wanted to “listen” to WLL on the idol tour? I love the audio of “Beth”..but I want to see him in his glittery glory!
Why are we all so upset w/ the cancelled performances on ABC? IMO… though we can play FYE on repeat all day….we can’t wait for the excitement and energy ( in all it’s degrees) of the live Adam performance.

I love the visuals ‘“ I love the creativity of the ‘total effect’ . The staging, lighting, dress, dancing etc. is all part of the whole’ ¦as much as the arrrangements, vocals, phrasing etc.

Yeah I like the staging too. I just think that Adam sometimes uses facial expressions from theatre and in a television situation they become a bit too much. On Tv you just have to hint and the Audience will fill in the rest because they see you so up close.

saga…I agree. I have heard Adam address that conflict in an interview. In theatre you play to the “back of the house” vs. the intimacy of the camera.

Well, sometimes his facial expressions are a little too much- like in the end of WLL (on Rock night- not the tour) when he sings “woman”- but even then I find it entertaining because he is just sooo OTT.
BTW- there was a poster a few days ago that said she’d been a fan of Adam’s until the AMAs, but that he really scared her with that face he made at the end- but that’s exactly the same face as he had at the end of WLL… And I agree that it looks a little freaky, but it wasn’t he first time, and anyway, he’s always looks like he’s a little “possessed” when he’s performing- even in his latest TV performances, with WWFM- do you get the second he stops singing it’s like he undergoes this transition- as if landing back on Earth… and remember how many times on AI he would shudder after a performance… fascinating to watch, really…

Who among us only wanted to ‘listen’  to WLL on the idol tour?

Me! I am a fan of the voice, not the theatrics. I think they take away from his true gift and that is his vocal ability. When too many theatrics are involved he can loose focus (case and point the AMA’s). If he hadn’t been striving to ‘up’ Lady Gaga in the theatrics, the performance probably wouldn’t have got away from him the way it did.

If he hadn’t been striving to ‘up’ Lady Gaga in the theatrics, the performance probably wouldn’t have got away from him the way it did.

Yeah, but I kind of like that he is not a robot! It’s nice that things can rattle him. I was rattled by Gaga smashing bottles.

Oh now I get it…Me and the Boys.. the eyebrows and the expression. I’m so dense but back then he wasn’t out yet and I didn’t think much of the lyrics. Just Adam with those costume and platform boots performing with Kiss blew me away.
Now everytime I listen to Music Again and WWFM I always think of his performances with the Early Show, David Letterman, and Ellen. I like the songs more when I see Adam performs live. Wish he has every song on video. I’ll be first in line to get them. Adam is excellent in interpreting songs.

It’s nice that things can rattle him.

Yeah but not on shows like the AMA’s ….. not good!

Oh now I get it’ ¦Me and the Boys.. the eyebrows and the expression. I’m so dense but back then he wasn’t out yet and I didn’t think much of the lyrics.

But that’s what’s so fun about it. It seems to have gone over everyones head. If you look at that performance now it’s clear as day that he is provocing and challenging the audience about what he is.

Okay…I am freaking out. I had heard that Adam was hosting the Jingle Ball in Tampa…but then in this thread I saw earlier that he will be in Sunrise, FL on the 12th…can someone confirm that for me. OMG OMG, I might be able to go!!!!!!! SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

I “get” all the “me and the boys” analyzing going on here. But you realize, it’s a KISS song. They picked what to perform that night and I think they wrote it. It’s about playing with the band all night and not going home.
I doubt Adam had any say on what songs would be performed that night.

You’re right PattyH, but in typical Adam fashion, he worked those lyrics until they were screaming his name!!!!!

I ‘get’  all the ‘me and the boys’  analyzing going on here. But you realize, it’s a KISS song. They picked what to perform that night and I think they wrote it. It’s about playing with the band all night and not going home.

It’s a Kiss song but the way Adam performed it, it became something else, at least for me. I have to admit that I had never heard the song before (or at least I don’t remember hearing it, I’m not a Kiss fan) so I had no preconceptions what the song was about. I just listened and watched Adam perform it.

I ‘get’  all the ‘me and the boys’  analyzing going on here. But you realize, it’s a KISS song. They picked what to perform that night and I think they wrote it. It’s about playing with the band all night and not going home.
I doubt Adam had any say on what songs would be performed that night.

Oh, I totally get that, but that not what Adam is portraying. That’s why it’s so brilliant.

I said I got it now about Beth..Me and the Boys….the eyebrows, the exprression because I know now who Adam is. IMHO I think, a little bit back in his mind he wanted to challenge the audience like saga said.

But that’s what’s so fun about it. It seems to have gone over everyones head. If you look at that performance now it’s clear as day that he is provocing and challenging the audience about what he is.

I remember Adam gave an interview that no more voting that night and he was gonna put glitters on his eyes and had some fun. I think he really wanted to tell people who he was that night eventhough he was always out but not verbally.
It was the first time I heard Beth that night and liked his eyebrows and the look. It puzzled me a little bit but the anticipation about the result and all the grand finale took over. It was one of the best AI Finales.

I just liked the way he sang Beth. Any hidden references don’t matter to me.

I just liked the way he sang Beth. Any hidden references don’t matter to me.

It wasn’t hidden, we just didn’t see it!

Just wanna say Man in the Box isn’t obscure.

I know that, thus the quotes around the word obscure. However, based on what May was saying about his AI covers, it seems that Britney, BEP, Mariah, Michael Jackson songs are what she suggests he should cover (to the extent he’s picking covers to do, of course). In other words, Top40 stuff — which AIC definitely is not.

But what I don’t understand is May’s statement about popularity to casual AI fans. I must be missing something, but I just don’t see their overwhelming relevance to his career at this point. (Or for that matter, this discussion of which covers he should do, to be honest.) Shouldn’t he be trying to appeal to what people in his fanbase respond to? People going to his concert who are AI fans are definitely NOT casual AI fans. Casual AI fans are those who barely lift a finger to even buy a single or album, much less go to a concert. If fans and reviewers mention the kick awesomeness of covers like Hot For Teacher and Just Died in Your Arms (which they have), then how do we know he’d do better with a retread of his AI stuff at the concerts?

BTW- there was a poster a few days ago that said she’d been a fan of Adam’s until the AMAs, but that he really scared her with that face he made at the end- but that’s exactly the same face as he had at the end of WLL’ ¦ And I agree that it looks a little freaky, but it wasn’t he first time, and anyway, he’s always looks like he’s a little ‘possessed’  when he’s performing-

LOL to this. Not to point out anyone here, because as an Adam fan you’re certainly free to love or hate different things about his performances. But sometimes I think some of his more conservative AI fans who loved him from the show just see him as the cute cuddly boy in many of his AI interviews and appearances – but don’t quite realize that that’s just one side of him, and that Adam can put on these other personas to fit the song and his mood. FYE is a good case in point – though he could have played that song a little more fun, sexual – instead, he chose more of a dark, sexual mood, which, from my pov, is just another side of how he can come across as a performer.

I wasn’t particularly freaked out by it, but I can see some of his fans from AI, those who loved more of the MW/TOMT Adam being more freaked out about it. Nothing wrong with that, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but that’s just my take.

I would probably say that Adams most stripped down performance was TOMT’ ¦ where there was this intimate accoustic setting. I agree that MW was very staged. That light and the chair was awesome though. Loved it! And you couldn’t really see his face and had to focus on the haunting lyrics? Very smart!

Well – if you want to go really simple, barebones Adam performances, I think the ones he’s had to do with minimal stage effects on other shows are the best example – say, the Ford Concert songs (one of the best versions of MW and TOMT, imo). Those had none of the special effects of the AI versions.

Once you meet Adam in person, you realize he is the consumate performer. Seriously, he is bigger than life on stage, all raw sexual energy. But in person, he is this nice, well mannered guy. It’s the weirdest thing! Watching him on stage, he emits this energy that is completely different from his off stage presence. It’s like he has a switch that activates when he hits the stage. I love both of these persona. I think it is what makes Adam so cool. Sex on stage, a guy you would love to hang out with off stage.

Jae, ITA – I met him in person on the Early Show, and what a sweet, cool guy he is – no effect, no fakeness to it. And you exactly hit one of the things I love most about him – his ability to be one persona on stage and a very different one off stage.

However, about the theatrics, IDK, but imo almost every performer now is putting on a theatrical show – Rihanna, BEPs, Gaga, etc – in fact Gaga is hugely theatrical, to an extent where she almost takes it to a robotic precision, and if I had one criticism of her, it would be that she is sometimes a little too perfectly planned and staged (e.g. the AMA performance, which was all kinds of awesome, but a little too perfectly constructed imo). Adam has more spontaneity as a performer, which sometimes gets the best of him, but it can be more electrifying and “real” imo.

I just liked the way he sang Beth. Any hidden references don’t matter to me.

It wasn’t hidden, we just didn’t see it!

I just watched it 4 times in a row and I guess we see what we want to see because I just see Adam performing a beautiful song and intro to the KISS segment. Like I said above, I doubt Adam had any say in choosing the songs he did with KISS that night. He just stepped in, gave it his all, and did it beautifully!

Notwithstanding how you interpret the lyrics of Beth when Adam sings it, everyone agrees that the vocals were immaculate. I grew up listening to that song, so it was totally familiar to me. After hearing Adam sing it, I looked for a performance of KISS singing it, and yikes, the vocals are just awful. I don’t remember them being awful, but Adam has a way of ruining the classic songs for me.

This thread is no doubt dead by now but I just want to say, really? Seriously? Nobody got the innuendo on “Beth” the night he performed it? I thought it was clear as day.

I also have always thought it was what got Gene Simmons’ manties in a twist and why he suddenly went from being a fan to being a critic. I don’t think he liked the homoerotic subtext of that song being pointed out one bit (when someone finally did point it out — because I’m sure it went straight over his head, too). Which makes me laugh and laugh and laugh, frankly. Simmons has always been a gigantic– well. Never mind. Old news.

This thread is no doubt dead by now but I just want to say, really? Seriously? Nobody got the innuendo on ‘Beth’  the night he performed it? I thought it was clear as day.

LOL – I just jumped back on this thread. You know, I hadn’t noticed it at the time, but I just rewatched Beth – and you’re totally right It is a pretty awesome moment from Adam, especially that little eyebrow raise he gives at the end!

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