Idol Headlines for 11/27/07

Todayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Idol headlines after the jumpà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

TV’s Mr Nasty wants pop princess to star in American Idol

Simon Cowell wants Britney Spears to make a guest appearance on US talent show American Idol.

‘As far as I’m concerned, she can produce or direct American Idol if she likes,’ he says. ‘She’d bring in 50 million viewers.’ ………

Now Magazine

Rock Reality Show Recap: The Clark Brothers Dominate Rolling Stones Week on à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“The Next Great American Bandà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

The producers of American Idol think they can find The Next Great American Band on TV (and no, theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re not talking about the next great Grand Funk Railroad). We think we can find some pleasure in this pursuit with our Rock Reality Show Recaps. Hereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s our sixth report:

RollingStone

TV Guide’s Online Video Awards: The Winners Are….

With 1.75 million votes cast, TV Guide is pleased to reveal the winners of the inaugural edition of the Online Video Awards……..

Behind-the-Scenes Video: Hey Paula: Behind the Scenes (Bravo)

TVGuide

Teacher’s dream to sing

….Rosener said she hopes to begin performing at more area street dances and other events, although having two youngsters younger than 3 makes that more challenging. She said she’s won several vocal competitions and finished second in last year’s state Colgate County Showdown. Immediately following that event, John drove his pregnant wife to the American Idol tryouts in Minneapolis.

“We drove all night and got there at 7 in the morning. I was pregnant and nauseous and throwing up,” she said. “It wasn’t pretty.”

Rosener didn’t advance and said at 29 she was too old to try out when the program came to Omaha for this year’s tryouts….

ZWire

YouTube Promotes à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Celebrity Rehabà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ in Drug Awareness Campaign

Whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s your first memory of an anti-drug commercial? An egg frying in a pan and a voice saying, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“This is your brain on drugs,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  is a common answer. It seems the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“scared straightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  approach to inducing a fear of drugs à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ remember the shotgun wielding teen that killed his friend after smoking dope à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t come far. Now in YouTube clips promoting a new show called Celebrity Rehab, Dr. Drew Pinksy of Love Line fame will attempt to reinvent the genre. Watch a clip here of Crazy Townà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Seth Binzer apparently free-basing crack and explaining its dangers and consequences……..

DMW Media

Adoration for Aiken follows him here

To most of us, Clay Aiken is that nice young man who placed second in the 2003 season of “American Idol.”

But it seems Aiken has a cult following among middle-aged women, creating an unexpected boon for Miller Auditorium and the Kalamazoo Public Schools.

Aiken will be in town Friday for a holiday concert with the Kalamazoo Symphony Orchestra at Miller Auditorium — an event occurring on Aiken’s 29th birthday.

To the delighted astonishment of Miller officials, they’ve sold tickets in 26 states for the concert, drawing hundreds of women from fan clubs with names such as Claynation and Claymates. About 50 Aiken fans were so determined to get front-and-center seats that they bought season subscriptions to Miller, costing those patrons an extra $100 each. (The fans donated tickets for the other events back to Miller, which is distributing them to area service clubs.)……..

MLive

Entertainers of the Year: 25 Top Stars of 2007
Meet the extraordinary talents who shined brightest in 2007, from George Clooney to Johnny Depp to Carrie Underwood to…EW’s pick for Entertainer of the Year!

2007′S MOST POPULAR: CARRIE UNDERWOOD

Faith Hill was only kidding, folks, when she feigned outrage at Carrie Underwood’s win at the 2006 CMA Awards, but viewers may’ve been truly shocked by the now-24-year-old’s meteoric rise. In 2007, Underwood further solidified her country bona fides with a confident, twangy No. 1 album, Carnival Ride, that vindicated all the promise and possibility American Idol aspires to offer. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ Jeff Labreque

CARRIE UNDERWOOD’S 2007……….

EW.com

Christmas music starts early at Smiths’
Holiday recordings have something for everyone

….The orchestra lends a marked change, though Smith hasn’t completely shed his piano-pop core on Wonderful Christmas. Album track “Christmas Day,” in particular, is stocked with his trademark contemplative hooks and features a radio-ready contribution from American Idol alum and Nashville favorite Mandisa.

Smith was impressed enough with her contribution à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  “She just, in my opinion, knocked it out of the park,” he says à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  to ask her to come along on his Christmas tour, which starts Thursday and ends in Nashville on Dec. 22 at Brentwood Baptist Church. Scheduling conflicts prohibited Mandisa’s inclusion, so fellow Idol-er Melinda Doolittle will take that spot (and helm Mandisa’s duet part in “Christmas Day”)….

Tennessean.com

Seventeen Picks The ‘Style Stars’

….Other winners in Seventeen’s first-ever Style Star awards were Vanessa Hudgens, Jessica Alba, Jordin Sparks, Fergie, Lauren Conrad, Ashley Simpson and Lil Mama….

WRAL

  • xoxoyc

    According to Rock On TV Katharine McPhee is singing in the Walt Disney World Christmas Parade. :)

  • Pixie

    :downer_ee:

    May Taylor REST IN PEACE…………………….Pix

  • Cherokee

    If AI allows Britney Spears to appear on AI, well, I may just have to stop watching. :sick_ee:

  • MN Sue

    Heh Simon, with the Hollywood Rounds just beginning and you believing AI7 needs Brit-Brit to bring in viewers, you just spoke volumes about the talent and personalities we can expect this year.
    All about the contestants this year? Yeah right!

  • MN Sue

    May Taylor REST IN PEACEà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.Pix

    Pixie, may I take another read on your post?

    May Taylor fanaticals RIP

    If not…nevermind.

  • Big Brother

    Kat McPhee in Disney Christmas Parade! Thanks XO!

  • jpfan

    Taylor RIP is so silly. However, Taylor might as well be RIP for all his visibility in the larger media. Pickler will be on Regis/Kelly tomorrow and I think Kat has some Xmas stuff lined up. Taylor has enough fame to get some Xmas gigs. Why isn’t he riding in some float or singing on some silly show. So it’s Taylor Who? and not just because his album isn’t linked here. So why isn’t he? My gut feeling is he probably thinks that stuff is too cheesy and won’t do it.

  • Pixie

    I didn’t think I needed to clarify my little ditty but what I meant was the Taylor *escapade* yesterday was enough for me (ie. the album not displayed, etc.etc….)and I was hoping that maybe it would die. Mj was right ….we, even with best intentions, can give Taylor a bad name.
    Sheesh….and Jpfan, I rarely agree with your posts but I would never say they were *silly*….just sayin….Pix

  • neonorange

    Oh, I thought the Taylor RIP was reference to Sean Taylor of the Redskins. How tragic?! Read yesterday’s thread to catch up – sorry I bothered.

  • tinawina

    I say that Hicks dude has spent the whole year touring back to back. If he want to take a break for the holidays, then he should. And then go record my acoustic album, dammit!
    :laugh_tb:

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    I’m stepping in:

    Please don’t make personal comments about others opinions. Keep your comments focused on the Idols, not on your fellow posters. No arguing, no baiting.

    And: I answered the question about why I chose the ads to post on my sidebar in yesterday’s thread. That discussion WILL NOT bleed into today’s discussion.

    Have ya all read Lisa’s headlines? They are an on-topic starting point for discussion.

    Star posted this MSNBC article last night on Blake Lewis. I’m reposting it in case any of you missed it.

    His album is dropping next week, also another current topic for discussion. Thank you.

  • jpfan

    Oops. Never meant to call a poster silly. Moving right along, Tattoo is moving up on iTunes. I think the promo is selling the single more than the album which is what happenes to a lot of Top 40 artists. It’s almost amazing how few albums Timbaland, Rihanna, T-Pain sell relative to the amount of #1 hits they have. I was at Best Buy yesterday and Jordin’s album was sold out so maybe she’ll do well when the urban retailers report (unless they already have.)

  • neonorange

    Rolling Stones really pegged NGAB. I really don’t get the excitement over Denver either. He is very boring. They could easily spice things up a bit ala Spike Jones. Okay, maybe not that irreverent but some personality would be nice. Clark brothers are just incredible to watch. My favorite line in the article: “Plus, a dude who prays before he goes on stage made a electric steel neck slide sound like a bomb dropping.” Sign me up to buy their first album!

  • poporange

    I know this is not related to American Idol but Sean Taylor of the Washington Redskins has died. He was quite young and my heart goes out to his family..

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3129406

    Back to the subject:
    Simon and getting Britney Spears on the show for more viewer?ok. I guess Dr Mcdreamy could not sing darn.

  • tinawina

    My impression was always that Blake’s fanbase was bigger than Jordin’s. I’ll be surprised if his debut doesn’t at least match hers.

    That said, I think both of them are pretty commercial and have a decent shot of going on to sell a good amount of records. I think the Idol fanbase is really only helpful those first few weeks of sales – the rest comes down to how competitive you are in the marketplace. If Jordin can avoid too much bad press over her opening week numbers, she should be fine in the long run. Especially after she releases that Chris Brown song.

  • Anne67

    It was just announced on KIIS 106.1 Seattle that Blake will be playing in the Jingle Bell Bash at the Tacoma Domb on Dec. 4. Timbaland with 1 Republic will be there, along with Colbiet Caillet, Sean Kingston and that Jonas Brothers Band.

    If Jordin can avoid too much bad press over her opening week numbers, she should be fine in the long run. Especially after she releases that Chris Brown song.

    tinawina that should help her if No Air can become a top single. Tattoo is doing sooooo much better than I ever thought it would.

  • calimari

    I’m not worried about Taylor not being all over the place this holiday. I hardly think Kat’s appearance at a parade is going to suddenly energize her career. Others didn’t participate in Mardi Gras last year like Taylor did, and it didn’t hurt them any. I just think everyone’s beating to their own drums now.
    Before I got a bit overly invested in Idol (thanks Season 5), I never thought twice about it after the finale. Then about 2 years ago I read an article about George Huff, who placed somewhere in the middle in what – season 3 or 4? In the article, he said that since being on Idol he’s never made under $100K a year. Obviously, not super-stardom, but I have to think there are many many talented singers & musicians who would just like to make a living at it, and he did that. That said, I think many of them are perfectly pleased w/ how things are going.

  • Cherokee

    MUSIC RETAIL CONTINUES DECLINE

    Still, music sales dropped 14.8%, from last yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s dip of 6.3%. By comparison, games jumped a sizable 34.1%, consumer electronics elevated 30.8%, and movies improved 7.6%.

    http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news06892

    In order to make a profit these days, it looks like retailers such as Borders and Hastings have focused on diversification away from music. The video gaming industry is HUGE right now.

    As for Sean Taylor, I am deeply saddened by the news of his passing. He was an amazing young talent in the NFL and will be missed.

  • Nanny Mcphee

    According to Rock On TV Katharine McPhee is singing in the Walt Disney World Christmas Parade. :)

    Yep Xo she sure is!! With a lot of big names too, She is also performing at Christmas in Washington which will air on December 12th. There are a lot of articles out there about stuff Kat is doing, but I never see them posted here, when I swing by to read stuff sometimes. OH well.

    Yesterday’s blog, good lord, that was crazy to read!!!

    Hope everyone is doing well. :bye_tb:

  • http://www.idolicious.com Kat

    Very sad news about Sean Taylor and his family. From what I’d read, he seemed like a very troubled individual who was making a concerted effort to get his life back on track for his young daughter. Tragic.

    Onto that other Taylor. Meh. Like tinawina said, I like getting news about the man, but I’d rather have a better CD, so I’m not freaked about him not appearing in parades and stuff. Besides, if my fanbase had splintered off into warring groups determined to prove whether or not I was faking my relationship with my girlfriend and pretty much defaming her…well, I’d lay low too.

    How are Jordin’s numbers coming along? I can’t get HDD to load right now, but last I looked, she was at 56K with about 43% in. So it looks the predictions were pretty much on target. While I like Jordin and wish her success, a part of me is glad that another boring, bland pop album is NOT going to take the world by storm. That being said I think most people are right, she could have a pretty successful career as a singles artist like Rihanna. But then again, Mario Vasquez had a #1 hit too, and look where that got him!

    ETA: Nanny!! You should post the Kat stuff here if someone else misses it. It’ll probably generate snark, but I think a lot of people here just like to know what the Idols of yore are up to. :)

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    There are a lot of articles out there about stuff Kat is doing, but I never see them posted here, when I swing by to read stuff sometimes. OH well.

    Nanny, you might want to check out the appearances page. Her appearances are posted there.

    As far as what Kat is “doing” it seems to be mostly photo shoots, and no those don’t generally get posted here.

    However, Kat’s interview at that Santa Parade WAS posted, so I’m not sure what you mean.

    Lots of Idols to cover here folks. As you know, this is not the insert YOUR favorite idol HERE blog. We try to cover everything.

    The biggest lesson I learned this year can be summed up by Ricky Nelson:

    It’s all right now,
    learned my lesson well
    You see, ya can’t please everyone,
    so you got to please yourself…

    ETA: Yes Kat, excellent suggestion. Nanny, you could always post it yourself.

  • Cherokee

    Kat – here’s HDD numbers for Idols in the Top 50 with 68.18% reporting:

    7 – Carrie Underwood 102,992
    8 – Jordin Sparks 97,921
    27 – Daughtry 34,377

    The Top 3 are Josh Groban, Alicia Keys, and Now 26 (includes Daughtry’s “Over You”) and all have sold over 200,000.

  • neonorange

    HDD With 68% reporting:
    7 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 102,992
    8 JORDIN SPARKS 97,921
    27 DAUGHTRY 34,377

  • http://www.idolicious.com Kat

    Thanks so much Cherokee and neonorange!

    I just hope that whatever Jordin’s sales turn out to be, she doesn’t get the same roughshod treatment in the media that last year’s winner got when he didn’t meet expectations. However, the fact that Jordin is young, female, and pretty may steer the press away from turning her into a punchline if she doesn’t catch on with the public. She seems like such a sweet girl (she’s got a long way to go musically, but…I have to say it, so cringe now…she’s just 17!).

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    I have to say it, so cringe nowà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just 17!).

    WTF!!1111!!!! She’s ONLY 17!!!!! OMG! Heh.

    Her birthday is next month. Thank Jeebus.

  • Nanny Mcphee

    MJ I wasn’t complaining, I was just pointing something out, it’s no big deal. She is doing lots more than photo shoots, but I’m not going to freak out about you not posting every article about Kat that is out there, that would just be stupid. I have gotten over all my defensiveness and stuff, I love Kat, most of you don’t, that’s it, nothing more to say really.

    BTW: Kat sold 116,000 her first week not 115,000, it was posted a few times as the latter and I just wanted to say what it actually was. Anyway I didn’t come in here to start any madness at all.

    I was just dropping by, and like I said before I hope everyone is doing well.

  • neonorange

    I don’t think the “only 17″ argument will hold up too well in this market – considering Miley Cyrus became the youngest artist ever to have two #1 albums in under a year at age 14 and JoJo is the youngest solo artist to have a number-one single in America at age 13. Jordin is old compared to these gals.

  • Tony

    My original prediction for Jordin’s first-week sales were 210k. I cannot believe that I’ll be 100k off the mark. lol

    110k was my ORIGINAL prediction for Blake. I don’t remember my revision but I’m going to put him at 40k.

    Minimal interest, low ratings, low tour numbers, low sales numbers…..

    I see a pattern.

  • jpfan

    I think Jordin will end up higher than the HDD estimate. I say 125-140K and maybe a better debut than Keith Urban. I guess this week Oprah trumps AI.

    Blake is starting the promo really late. His album comes out next Tuesday and I’ve yet to see him on TV.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Minimal interest, low ratings, low tour numbers, low sales numbersà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..

    I see a pattern.

    I didn’t really expect Jordin and Blake’s numbers to be high the first week for all the reasons you mentioned.

    But, they both have a reasonably commercial sound. I think they could do ok in the longrun. It’ll be interesting to watch.

    I wish them both well.

    And Nanny…at least you didn’t bitch about Kat’s album not being in the sidebar. I appreciate that. lol.

  • Tony

    MJ:

    I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really expect Jordin and Blakeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s numbers to be high the first week for all the reasons you mentioned.

    At the very LEAST, I thought that Jordin would buck the trend. But I must admit that in the back of my mind, I kept asking myself, “Where are you getting this 210k number from?”

    I’ve never been more wrong. lol

  • tinawina

    Besides, if my fanbase had splintered off into warring groups determined to prove whether or not I was faking my relationship with my girlfriend and pretty much defaming herà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦well, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d lay low too.

    Holy cow, Kat, did that really happen? I feel so sorry for Taylor if that’s the case. I mean I know some portion of all the AI fanbases are pretty intense, but DAMN. I’m so glad I don’t frequent anybody’s fan sites. LOL!

  • http://www.idolicious.com Kat

    Holy cow, Kat, did that really happen? I feel so sorry for Taylor if thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the case. I mean I know some portion of all the AI fanbases are pretty intense, but DAMN. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m so glad I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t frequent anybodyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fan sites. LOL!

    Oh, it did. It did. There are two blogs (I think the same person runs them) devoted to exposing Taylor’s relationship with his girlfriend as a fraud. There is one countering that assertion, and then there’s another blog that used to just be a fansite, but now it’s devoted to that entire controversy. It’s…well, I’m at a loss for words to describe them. Google them if you want a laugh.

  • Desdemona

    And Nannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦at least you didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t bitch about Katà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s album not being in the sidebar. I appreciate that. lol.

    Well, where’s Bucky’s? :)

  • Pixie

    Ah, Mj, you gave me a great laugh! I haven’t heard *jeebus* in forever! My mom used to say that when she got really irritated! I wish my launguage was as pristine! Thanks for that….Pix

  • cheese

    Oh, it did. It did. There are two blogs (I think the same person runs them) devoted to exposing Taylorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s relationship with his girlfriend as a fraud. There is one countering that assertion, and then thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s another blog that used to just be a fansite, but now ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s devoted to that entire controversy. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢sà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦well, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m at a loss for words to describe them. Google them if you want a laugh.

    Holy crax! I still check up on one Taylor site regularly for all the latest non-happenings in his career, but I had no idea all this batshit craziness was going on. I’ll have to check it out.

    On the other hand, Jordin’s low sales might be partly attributed to her lack of crazy obsessive fans. While these fans would write insanely inappropriate blogs about her relationships, they would also buy up multiple copies of her CD to hand out like candy to mere acquaintances. If Jordin can get herself major exposure with the Disney-loving tweens, her sales will probably pick up. It’s not as if Miley Cyrus’s music is fundamentally better than Jordin’s, she’s just. . . there! all the time!

    I think Blake will have broader appeal in general and may ultimately do better in some respect, be it radio play or sales. I still think Break Anotha’ is a mess, but there are probably much, much better songs on the CD. I agree with whichever critic named Tattoo as the best song on Jordin’s CD. I couldn’t get through more than about 6 songs when I listened to it. My 9 year old, who is presumably in Jordin’s target market, doesn’t even like Tattoo because she thinks the lyrics are stupid. (I think she’s been spoiled by listening to Feist and Regina Spektor.) I admire Jordin’s squeaky clean image, but the music is really nothing special. Blake probably has a better chance of standing out among a crowded field of pop acts, even if his first week sales end up being weaker.

  • http://www.idolicious.com Kat

    I think sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been spoiled by listening to Feist and Regina Spektor.

    You have GOT to introduce her to Jesca Hoop. I recommend starting with “Love and Love Again.” :)

  • calimari

    I don’t know Kat – I’m a big Taylor fan and I check out several of the fan sites each week and this is the first I’ve heard of anyone talking about his relationship being a fraud or any sort of “controversy” with Taylor’s girlfriend. I admit that there are probably lots of Taylor sites/blogs and I don’t see them all, but I hit the major ones, so if it is happening, I have to believe it’s a small fraction of the fans as it’s not mentioned on the bigger sites at all.

  • neonorange

    Kat
    Nov 27th, 2007 at 3:38 pm
    Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢sà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦well, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m at a loss for words to describe them. Google them if you want a laugh.

    Morbid curiosity got the better of me. I am now officially creeped out. Who .. uh…. what… uh…. why?!! Nevermind. There are some real freaks in this world — makes me glad I am just an average joe.

  • http://www.idolicious.com Kat

    I still have Taylor on Google Alerts and I actually started getting alerts from these sites. I just don’t want to post the links here because I’m fairly certain that MJ wouldn’t want this kind of obsessive fantarding promoted on her blog, even if it’s only being “promoted” for us to make fun of it. So unless she gives me the go-ahead (and it’s totally understandable, MJ, if you don’t), I just don’t want to post the links, but I think the sites are pretty easy to find on their own. But oh yeah, it’s definitely a really small faction of fans.

  • tinawina

    There is one countering that assertion, and then thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s another blog that used to just be a fansite, but now ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s devoted to that entire controversy. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢sà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦well, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m at a loss for words to describe them. Google them if you want a laugh.

    God help me, I did it. I googled that hot mess of a fan war you just told me about. HOLY FREAKING COW! I have never seen such all-out insanity in my life. Are they serious with this stuff? I am laughing so hard, tears are streaming down my face. For god’s sakes people! Do these nutbags even have jobs? What could possibly the the motivator behind such foolishness? Do they really have no idea how unbelievably loony they all seem? Prozac. Lots and lots of Prozac. I hear it works! :shock_tb:

    One thing is for sure. I swear to God I will never. EVER, talk about the insane wing of the Clay fandom again.

    Oh wait a minute.. I’m sure this post just violated all kinds of rules mj. I’m sorry. It’s just the shock of it all. I’ll be a good girl from now on, I promise. :blush_tb:

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Kat, don’t post the links. But you can sort of spell it out with a spelled out dot or give a hint of how to find them

    I’m sort of curious myself, I must admit.

    Holy crax indeed! Heh.

    ETA: Ok, do a search on “Taylor’s girlfriend is a fraud” and you’ll find it. Wow.

  • Karen

    Here is why music sales are down 14%. At Thanksgiving last week I was playing my new Carrie CD for the fan-damily because I LOVE “I Know You Won’t” and “Last Name”. 3 or 4 people said “Hey, make me a copy of that!” Everyone loved it, but to them it’s easier for me to make a copy than to have to go into a crowded store and buy it. Naturally, I haven’t made anyone a copy, because that would be wrong. :nono_tb:

  • http://www.idolicious.com Kat

    I spent a good hour one night reading those blogs in a dumbfounded stupor. For those who are not so Google-inclined:

    Thanks, MJ. One of the blogs is the name of Taylor’s girlfriend dot blogspot dot com. The other goes by the title “Making Fun of Your A$$.” The third is a “fan club” for Taylor’s girlfriend, and the fourth is the old Taylor Hicks Idol Blues blog.

    Knock yourselves out.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Taylor is on hiatis right now, and the natives are getting restless. No news = let’s dwell on something that’s completely insane…

    And I understand this isn’t the entire fan base, just the fanatical fringe.

  • maracaibo

    I think Blake will have broader appeal in general and may ultimately do better in some respect, be it radio play or sales.

    Couldn’t agree more. I guess time will tell.

    I actually think Break Anotha is a great single, love the song and I hope it does well. But after hearing some other clips from his album I do think there are even better songs. Many of them. So that’s good for his future sales.

    “Here’s My Hello” could be a big Hit for Blake. But apparently there are many to choose from for the second single.JMHO

  • ealbino

    Final HDD estimates in..

    NOW IN: FINAL

    LW TW artist / album label power index % change
    2 1 JOSH GROBAN REPRISE 405,375 77%
    NOEL
    1 2 ALICIA KEYS J RECORDS/RMG 336,298 -53%
    AS I AM

    9 7 CARRIE UNDERWOOD ARISTA/RMG 137,633 19%
    CARNIVAL RIDE

    – 9 JORDIN SPARKS 19/JIVE/ZLG 121,351 —

    holy moly at Carrie and Josh!

  • neonorange

    HDD Final:
    7 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 137,633 19%
    9 JORDIN SPARKS 121,351 –
    38 DAUGHTRY 43,205 93% (nice holiday bump)

  • undecided

    But it seems Aiken has a cult following among middle-aged women

    Apparently Clay has powers of rejuvenation. The number of crying babies and restless toddlers in the audience last night was a testament to his ability to resurrect middle aged ovaries and the men were wearing their visibility cloaking devices again.. :rolleyes_tb:

  • http://www.idolicious.com Kat

    Apparently Clay has powers of rejuvenation.

    Maybe he has the power of cellular regeneration? WHICH MEANS EVENTUALLY HE’LL STOP GROWING OLD!!!!!! And then Clive can lock him in a cement basement for thirty years :)

    /Heroes

  • cheese

    The number of crying babies and restless toddlers in the audience last night was a testament to his ability to resurrect middle aged ovaries

    They were probably crying because they had to listen to Claymates read their very special Christmas stories to a theater full of strangers, when they would rather just hear Clay sing, if they have to go to a Clay concert at all. (I’m taking my mom to see his show on Sunday and I am not looking forward to the fan stories. I guess I should be thankful there are no vignettes or sleigh ride dancers.) I hope someone takes a flash picture and he gets all pissy like he did last time I saw his Christmas show.

  • jpfan

    Elliott did alot of stuff for Diabetes Awareness Month and this is some of that from Fox News (it includes some good clips of his NYC performance).
    http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player06.html?112607/112607_health_yamin&Dr_Manny&’Idol’ Raises Awareness&acc&Health&-1&News&151&&&new

    I think with more hits off the album, Jordin could eventually sell the 650K they shipped but it’ll take awhile. I think she wins the award for lowest opening week for an AI winner and it will be interesting to see if the media spins that as the end for AI.

    Can any of the numbers people post first week sales for all the Idol second placers? Then I’ll place my guess on Blake’s sales. Right now I’m going with 70K.

  • Anne67

    Can any of the numbers people post first week sales for all the Idol second placers?

    jpfan, here you go. Sorry, it is both the first and runner-up.

    First albums
    à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Week 1à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.Current
    Kellyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.. 297,000 @ 2.5 million
    Justin.. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ 57,257 @ 142,000
    Ruben. . 416,569 @ 1.8 million
    Clayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ .. 612,859 @ 2.8 Million
    Fantasia 239,389 @ 2.1 million
    Dianaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ 46,795 @ 164,000
    Carrieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. 314,549 @ 6 million
    Boà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. 226,976 @654,000

    Taylor 298,000 @ 697,000
    Kat 115,761 @ 360,000

    ETA not sure if they are 100% on the money

  • undecided

    cheese Nov 27th, 2007 at 5:33 pm

    Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m taking my mom to see his show on Sunday and I am not looking forward to the fan stories. I guess I should be thankful there are no vignettes or sleigh ride dancers. I hope someone takes a flash picture and he gets all pissy like he did last time I saw his Christmas show.

    Hahaha, Have a great time. I’m sure that Clay appreciates all of his repeat customers, no matter how pissy they can be.

  • Kirsten

    à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ 9 JORDIN SPARKS 19/JIVE/ZLG 121,351 à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ 

    Ouch.

    I suspect that there is some major re-tooling going on at Idol central. I hope that the producers realize that the show is all about the contestants and the fans, and not about themselves. I was watching an interesting documentary about McDonald’s the other day and they had a bit of a melt down in the early 00s, but are now stronger than ever. They realized that they were obsessing too much about business/growth and not paying enough attention to their food/customers (yes, I know, they’re food is carp, but they still have to make it carp people want to buy…McRib anybody?). Anyway, they now have a new corporate motto “Keep your eyes on the fries”. Nigel/Fuller need to keep their eyes on the fries.

    Of course, HDD could be wrong and Jordin’s actual numbers may be higher, but I still don’t think they can move out of “Ouch” territory. Those numbers are about 1/2 what the previous lowest selling first week Idol sold (121K vs 239K).

    That’s quite a collective yawn from the Idol viewers. And not just the Idol viewers. That’s also quite a collective yawn from Pop radio. She is currently number 12 on that chart.

    And Jordin had an opening week with all the trimmings. Hit single (check). Video out (check). Black Friday (check). Only one other American Idol has released on Black Friday and I don’t think any of the others had a hit single when they released. Jordin had two potential markets to draw from. Those numbers can’t be labeled anything but a disappointment. And, one has to wonder if Jive will continue to spend money to promote it. If the first hit song didn’t move any units, why would the second?

    I’m not trying to dog-pile on Jordin here. I feel kind of bad for her (but she seems pretty resilent). I think this is a testimate to how badly the producers dropped the ball this season. From the opening contestant (following her around relentlessly showing her cry much longer than necessary) to the “bush baby” comment (and actually having those kids come on the finale to THANK Simon for being mean to them. Sure it helped them, but people don’t do that to other people. Cue Simon/Nigel dressed as Lina Lamont: “But We ain’t people”). To the over the top pimping of Jordin giving the never-ending message of “You stupid people, we tell you who to vote for. You don’t get to pick the winner”. To canned performances by stars completely unassociated with Idol (some of whom won’t even let the contestants sing their songs). To Clive using Idol as a platform to smack down Kelly. This season was off the chart hubris.

    If you don’t involve the viewers and make them care, they won’t care.

    My impression was always that Blakeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fanbase was bigger than Jordinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be surprised if his debut doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t at least match hers.

    I used to think the same thing until I saw the numbers for Blake’s single and the crappy radio airplay support the label is giving him. Maybe they are waiting until the new year to start pushing the song (which seems bizarro to me), but by that time I suspect that the news agencies will have labeled Jordin and Blake lepers.

    I would not be surprised if the news agencies (probably that evil MSNBC who is out to make poor Rupert Murdoch cry) use these numbers to herald the end of Idol.

    I don’t think it is the end of Idol if the producers learned a lesson. “Keep your eyes on the fries”

  • NOLA

    Double ouch to Jordin. Yawner numbers for a yawner season.

    Looks like High School Musical 2 has just overtaken daughtry for album of the year. :)

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    But by that time I suspect that the news agencies will have labeled Jordin and Blake lepers.

    I would not be surprised if the news agencies (probably that evil MSNBC who is out to make poor Rupert Murdoch cry) use these numbers to herald the end of Idol.

    That could kill them in the end.

    I’m hoping that the press cares so little about this year’s contestants that they won’t even bother to pile on when the lower-than-usual numbers are reported. That would give Jordin and Blake a chance to develop as artists, outside of Idol.

  • jpfan

    Thanks for the prompt numbers for 2nd placers. There doesn’t seem to be any pattern at all. Sorry, my Elliott link doesn’t work. Just go to Fox News (scroll down to the health stories) and you’ll see it.

    I don’t think the media will focus on Jordin’s poor sales. There’s not much media interest but her press is generally positive.
    Folks, she only 17.

  • milajoy

    MJ: Do you know of anyone in the LA area that owns a digital camera? Day two at the Orpheum Theater and the only thing I have found that I didnt already know was that Matt Sato is in Hollywood and Ben Deignan is not….

    lol :devil_tb:

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    MJ: Do you know of anyone in the LA area that owns a digital camera?

    Well, I know a professional photog who owns many digital cameras (he’s related to me!) But, alas, he would laugh in my face if I asked him to stalk the Orpheum. lol.

    Interesting about Matt Sato. I wonder if his his mama finally proud of him? ;).

  • xoxoyc

    And Nannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦at least you didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t bitch about Katà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s album not being in the sidebar. I appreciate that. lol.

    Thanks for a great laugh after a long day MJ! LMAO!!

    As for Jordin I really think that releasing her single for sale 4 weeks ago on Itunes didn’t help- it has sold in the 200 or 300k range and many people probably just downloaded “Tattoo” instead of the whole album.

    I think record companies are going to see more and more of that tradition honestly.

  • http://www.myspace.com/swood1104 Sarah

    Well, I downloaded “Tattoo” only… and after I heard the clips of the rest of the album, I’m more likely to download the tracks I like than to buy the whole album (which I was going to do). Because to me, most of the rest of it is all just one long semi-ballad-mid-tempo-blah-blah-blah song. There are a couple of other good tracks on there that I may get, but I’m not getting the whole album.

  • Big Brother

    Wow thanks for the extra Kat news Nanny! I half expected to return here and see a chopp of Kat puking on a Disney princes dress. Boulder is great at that. Great snark that I never minded as a Kat fan! Where has she been that snarky chop expert?

  • Paula

    Everybody that performed on the AMA’s last week had a huge increase in their sales. Plus with Black Friday, I’m sure that also helped.

  • http://blog.syracuse.com/idolthoughts/ foxydonna

    So, Jordin has now earned the dubious distinction of having the lowest first-week sales for any “reigning” Idol, selling less than half of Taylor’s first week. Since Taylor’s disappointing sales were seen as evidence of his failure, what does this mean for Jordin, who was certainly much more in line with what an Idol is “supposed to be?”

    I figure it’s the end result of what’s been pointed out previously – season six missed the mark on so many levels it isn’t even funny. It also reflects the trend to buy tracks rather than the entire CD (as Sarah pointed out). I like a couple of Jordin’s songs and normally would buy the CD just because. But there’s so much music out there – Idol and non-Idol alike – and I don’t just buy CDs to store on my shelf. I’ll download the songs I like and leave the rest behind.

    As for Taylor, it would make me ill to see him on a float in a parade or on a cheesy Disney special.

  • Big Brother

    Hey what is those extras on the blog pages. What have i missed. Those little things. Are they ads or something?

  • http://www.idolicious.com Kat

    I half expected to return here and see a chopp of Kat puking on a Disney princes dress.

    Be careful what you wish for… :devil_tb:

  • xoxoyc

    Idol can still rebound- remembering of course that the failure of a season saleswise that Season 3 was- that season 4 brought us the blockbuster selling Carrie Underwood.

    And I don’t really consider season 5 a failure saleswise. 4 out of the top 5 had opening weeks around or over 100k and there is an album that sold over 3 million- granted it’s not the winner’s but that season still had success.

    So I think as long as Season 7 goes back to being about the contestants they could still have a few more succesful years.

  • Big Brother

    I never minded the gnomes and little d chops. It was brillant snark.

  • Big Brother

    I agree foxy! Taylor in a princess dress on a disney float would make me ill as well.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Taylor in a princess dress on a disney float would make me ill as well.

    Taylor is too busy concocting fake relationships for that sort of thing! lol.

    Eta: The “little things” are ads. It’s all about clicks and referrals peeps. If you get my drift. ;).

  • Big Brother

    what happens if I click? Do I get a chop or better yet porn of idols?

  • Ladybug

    Ha! Taylor’s not out of the spotlight by any means. Remember. Many awards shows are coming up. Cars will need parking!

    And he can bring that fake girlfriend with him. Rumor has it she is a blowup doll. Maybe I should start a Taylor’s “Fake” Fake Girlfriend board. Much serious discussion could ensue.

  • jpfan

    Is Taylor’s gf fake – not trustworthy, fake- not really his gf, fake – make of rubber? Don’t really get this story.

  • Tony

    xoxoyc:

    So I think as long as Season 7 goes back to being about the contestants they could still have a few more succesful years.

    Season 7: More Elliotts, more C. Daughtrys, more Parises, more Melindas, more Carries, more Fantasias, more Kellys, more Clays…

    If you build it, they will come. Make season 7 about TALENT. Period. I’m sure that there was plenty of tremendous talent overlooked in season 6 (I’ll be a cynic and say that Jordin and Melinda slipped through the cracks).

    I say that for every fool/deluded idiot shown during the auditions, there should be 10 good ones.

  • http://www.idolicious.com Kat

    Is Taylorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s gf fake – not trustworthy, fake- not really his gf, fake – make of rubber?

    NO, she is made of GLUE, and everything you say bounces off of HER and sticks to YOU!

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Is Taylorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s gf fake – not trustworthy, fake- not really his gf, fake – make of rubber? Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really get this story.

    Fake, like the girl that was at the beach with him in the original pictures is some ho Taylor doesn’t want to reveal. Not the girl that Taylor now claims is his gf. Somehow, Taylor and Carolyn Lyders are in cahoots, and are pretending they are gf and bf when they really aren’t…

    Oh gawd, it’s so ridiculous. Everytime I think I’ve seen it all…I haven’t.

    what happens if I click? Do I get a chop or better yet porn of idols?

    Sawry! Everytime you click, I get money to pay for this WONDERFUL cough site…

  • http://www.myspace.com/swood1104 Sarah

    Well, season 7 needs to be about the contestants, and not guest performers. There’s never been some complete lack of talent. Just mistakes in the focus of the show.

  • Big Brother

    OMG I am paying a woman. Not for porn? darn

  • Big Brother

    Blake is an prime example of lack of talent IMHO

  • Lu

    Fake, like the girl that was at the beach with him in the original pictures is some ho Taylor doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want to reveal. Not the girl that Taylor now claims is his gf. Somehow, Taylor and Carolyn Lyders are in cahoots, and are pretending they are gf and bf when they really arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢tà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

    Help me. This is actually so ridiculous it’s funny… So are Taylor and this Carolyn chick really in cahoots or are people making it up that they are in cahoots? I can’t even believe I’m asking this…

  • Anne67

    Blake is an prime example of lack of talent IMHO

    Blake did not have the best and/or strongest vocals, but to say that he is an example of lack of talent is; IMO, not true.

    I think the LA Times sums it up nicely when it comes to Blake. This is from the review from is album.

    “Idol” has produced several terrific vocalists, but it hasn’t really yielded an artist as obsessed with sound as Lewis is. His singing on “Audio Day Dream” is fine; it gets the job done. Yet what arrests your ear are Lewis’ ideas. With any luck, he’ll get the opportunity to keep developing them.

  • Big Brother

    Anne that is my opinion . I believe thats allowed. That is only one of many reviews and more to come. I suspect many won’t be good.

  • Anne67

    Anne that is my opinion . I believe thats allowed

    Big Brother totally agree that your opinion is allowed. Which is why I put…

    IMO, not true.

    I was just stating what I thought. And you are right, I’m sure there will be some reviews that will not be as good, but at least this one was:)

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Blake is an prime example of lack of talent IMHO

    Hi Rippin.

    Really, I’m very very good at tracking IPs, so don’t waste your time trolling. mmmk? Thanks.

  • poporange

    Lu ..

    There is a taylor webcite from out thier debating that his girlfriend is fake. I think it is so out thier it is wierd. like discussing if he uses a charmin or another brand ..need a life maybe guys.

  • Lu

    Lu ..A out there Taylor or not fan cite has a big discusion on if Taylor and his girlfriend is real or not..Next wekk if he does one or two in the bathroom.

    I’m still confused Pop. I was out late at a concert last night so maybe my brain is a little fuzzy.

  • Big Brother

    wrong mj. I am not Rippin, although he is my brother. We live in the same house hence possible close ip and he gave me this site long ago. I have just read. Is this not allowed?

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    wrong mj. I am not Rippin, although he is my brother. We live in the same house hence possible close ip and he gave me this site long ago. I have just read. Is this not allowed?

    Uhhh, like an evil twin? Rippin, you just entered the chat room a little bit ago, as Rippin, then “Big Brother” started posting here. You created the user name early this morning. Don’t play me. It’s lame.

  • Big Brother

    I did not enter your chat room. How sad is this? You banned Rippin as well as others. Who’s lame? But I will leave quietly. I was no problem here. Just having fun thats seriously lacking here lately ,I sdmit. Good Luck to you and your fan site.

  • CarieB

    Of course, I’ve known for a long time that Rip plays with people…Intentionally ruining a friendship by bald face lying, for example.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    I didn’t ban you Rippin. Until just now. :).

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Case closed Carie. Lets move on.

  • CarieB

    I was, MJ – until I saw that crap – just set me off. I’m done. I promise.

  • jobbix

    Wow! Lots of things happned today. I haven’t seen so many posts in quite a while..

    Jordin’s CD flopped right out of the box. It might be the mother of all Idol flops. I know it’s too early, she may have some big hits on her CD, longevity matters,..blah, blah.. I just don’t see it happening. She has to slog hard just to reach gold. OUCH !!

  • xoxoyc

    She will be certified gold since her label shipped 625k of her album. So gold is a certain based on shipments. Platinum may be very hard though.

  • jobbix

    Platinum? Forget about it. How many hit singles does Rihanna have? Including that monster hit Umbrella.. She still hasn’t reached Platinum last time I checked. She’s being played on radio every time I turn it on, but it doesn’t help her album sales much.

  • star_girl

    half the places didnt put Jordin’s cd out on shelves -_-

  • http://myspace.com/saltwatercures pj

    half the places didnt put Jordinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s cd out on shelves -_-

    I believe we hear this every year about some Idol based on someone’s experience in their store.

    Wow about the oddball Taylor sites. Crazy stuff.

  • http://www.myspace.com/mignonette33 purplesmile

    Wow, a hundred posts (including mine, which will probably kill the thread now, lol)! Interesting day, eh? It’s nice to see. :)

    Too bad about the Jordin CD sales. I hope she “recovers” from this.

  • http://myspace.com/saltwatercures pj

    *waves at purps*

    I hope she does too, although I won’t be buying her album. I listened to it on Rhapsody and it wasn’t my thing.

  • http://www.myspace.com/mignonette33 purplesmile

    *waves back at pj* ;)

    I’m not sure, either, whether I would indeed be buying Jordin’s CD. Maybe if I like another song from there. I do know, though, that my having heard Tattoo multiple times on the radio here has resulted in the song being stuck in my head. It’s my LSS…hah. It is a terribly catchy tune. Heh. ;p

  • http://inkdbylilyanna.com carolina

    wow — hot time in the city.

    I hate it that Taylor’s blown his cover. His girlfriend is really his step and one-half brother, the brother no one could ever really find.

    I told y’all he was shy! But, no one would listen. :blink_tb:

  • MaryS-NJ

    Holy cow, Kat, did that really happen? I feel so sorry for Taylor if thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the case. I mean I know some portion of all the AI fanbases are pretty intense, but DAMN. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m so glad I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t frequent anybodyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fan sites. LOL!

    Oh my goodness… Take a hiatus from the AI (and Taylor Hicks) fandom and *this* is what happens?
    I knew there were some (a few) denialists out there regarding Taylor’s girlfriend, but oy vey. A full blown splinter group? Poor Taylor.

    Oh! Hi everyone! :cool1_tb:

    A few comments about the state of this years winner and runner up and music sales in general –

    I was at iTunes yesterday and noticed “Tatoo” about number 8 or 9. I took a listen to Jordin’s song samples and they’re, eh… pleasant and generic, exactly what I figured they would be. It’s the Idol formula in all its glory (or NOT). I noticed also that Tatoo and the Chris B duet were downloaded vastly more than the other album cuts, which I think shows that it’s going be that way – a few popular singles, but not necessarily big album sales.

    I expect that the Media that trashed Taylor last year will make excuses for Jordin – unless AI turns on her. Why? Because I think they are, at the heart of things, sheep. They buy into the hype as much as anyone and they take their lead from the AI folks. Also she’s OMG!17 ignoring the fact that other, younger singers have done vastly better in sales, and what manly man music critic wants to sound like he’s picking on a sweet young girl?

    Please note: I have nothing against Jordin, and I really do wish her all the best. I’m just still annoyed at the way things went down last season for a host of reasons.

    I’m sorry that Jordin may be a victim of AI’s hubris and bloat. Blake too. And speaking of Blake,

    I think his single is more interesting. It’s really not my cup of tea, unfortunately, but I have yet to hear any of his other songs and I’m curious enough about them to listen.

    Have a fab day y’all!