I’m still of fan of his voice. I can separate, I think for now, not being a fan of Adam’s recent comments (ie) response to that mother about her child at the AI tour watching WLL from Out Interview, & his AMA performance (ie) bj, flipping off the audience, agressiveness in general.

I still remember reading many Adam fans discussing how much they dislike current music like rap and hip-hop. They basically admired Adam’s incredible voice and did not find rap/HH offering much in regard to great sounding voices. I agree. Many so called artists rely on a dog and pony show IMHO to just have something to do on stage b/c in reality they can’t sing a note. Adam can sing but I would never know that from the AMAs. I understand why some are saying he doesn’t respect music. Relying and/or focusing on anything but his talent, may make some pause and wonder what he really appreciates the most (ie) making a statement, pushing the envelope or respecting his voice/and the music.

Adam himself said that he never denied being gay but didn’t focus on acknowledging whether he was or not openly, not b/c he wasn’t proud and accepting of himself but b/c while on AI but wanted people to focus on and like him as an entertainer first. His words were “I can sing my face off”. That made sense to me. Now he gets an opportunity to have viewers become fans outside AI, while on a nationally televised show,and to me he has these potential fans focus on everything other than his voice/talent. He should have taken his own advice and had these potential buyers of his new cd/new fans, see him as the great singer and entertainer he really is. They shouldn’t have to think even for a moment that he may have been making a statement, performing for shock value b/c there is no other substance (like rap singers),and being inappropriate on network tv, etc.

60 64 JASON CASTRO Let’s Just Fall In Love Again 241 246 -5 0.398
66 66 ADAM LAMBERT For Your Entertainment 201 191 10 0.628
80 73 ALLISON IRAHETA Friday I’ll Be Over U 104 79 25 0.181
83 85 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 67 69 -2 1.82

With WWFM having an audience 3x the size of FYE and radio dropping the latter, we can consider WWFM the new single. By next week it’ll be more obvious as WWFM goes up the chart and FYE slides down.
WWFM is getting played on the two biggest Pop stations in the counry.

What WAS edited out was Adam flipping off the audience and the blowjob simulation. (by the way, I have no idea why he flipped off the audience)

Yeah he seems to be getting a free pass on the flip to the audience. That was rather rude.

anovich
11/23/2009 at 5:03 pm

That’s why Jordin, Archie, and Cook have done well for themselves. Jordin and Archie went out and did openers for other bigger name artists and Cook did a college type our that was geared towards smaller crowds. It sounds to me like Kris will go in one of these directions and there has been no word on the Allison plans.

I’ve read a lot of college reviews of Kris’s album and it seems to be really resonating with the college kids, so a college tour would be highly recommended. Although I am pretty confident in the commercial success of Kris’s record, so I feel like given a few more months he might not need to do the small shows after all. Although I do think he should still do it anyway, as a college crowd is a good fanbase to start building.

oceana
11/23/2009 at 6:08 pm

I think it was the aggressiveness of the kiss that was offputting. There is male/male kissing on other shows without controversy. BTW there was also controversy about the Madonna/Britney kiss. Not so much female/female but whether or not it was appropriate for an award show, and curiosity about if it was planned, and why Christina’s kiss was ignored, etc.

The bj was the worst. I think the men on leashes was bad too. What next, bestiality onstage?

It’s a combination of the fact that the performance failed artistically, as well as being objectionable on other levels, and it’s not about gayness for most people. For some yes, it is that, but for most I don’t think that’s it.

I also don’t think that being talked about is always a good thing. People talked about balloon boy, they talk about Jon and Kate, it isn’t a good thing. I don’t think this is, on balance, a positive outcome for Adam.

It’s probably a good reality check for him. The reaction is overwhelmingly negative, which is surprising and in some ways heartening. I wouldn’t mind seeing a similar outrage though at some of the other performances and videos by rap singers and the women gyrating all around them. That is equally bad in my eyes.

I think that’s the problem, though, Adam does not seem apologetic about his performance at all. And why should he? Apologizing for his performance last night would mean he acknowledges he made a mistake, and then it will only lead to more nastiness. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. I feel like the bad thing about all this is that he lost some fans and he seems to have dismissed them as people who just didn’t “get” his performance, just like he dismissed those who were complaining about his album cover, telling them that they didn’t “get” it either. I’ve seen all over this blog as well as other sites where people are accused of not being “true fans” because they were disgusted by the performance. I’m sorry, but if I were a hardcore fan of an artist and they did something that really tested my patience, I don’t think that makes me less of a fan. It just means I have my own limits when it comes to what I can and cannot tolerate.

I also don’t think the reaction has been overwhelmingly negative. I think some in the media have taken Adam’s stance about the double standard. The media loves to admonish and be self-righteous whenever they can. E! Online has already said that Britney and Madonna, etc have been given passes when they were sexually explicit onstage, and yet when a gay man does it, etc etc.

I think it’s weird, though, because people are up in arms and calling out “discrimination”, but then the kiss wasn’t edited out on the West Coast airing. What WAS edited out was Adam flipping off the audience and the blowjob simulation. (by the way, I have no idea why he flipped off the audience)

interesting take, they believe abc knew all along cause of the great camera angles

First of all, that blogger is not very on top of things. No footage of JLo’s fall?! It was all over ONTD and DL. If he’s going to blog about this stuff he should know where to look.

I buy it, except for the simulated fellatio. That wasn’t a great camera angle, and the cutaway was so jarring and so clearly not on a beat there’s no way they anticipated it. I’ve only been in a classroom version of a TV control room, but I’m pretty sure that was not how they planned to show that part of the performance. Granted, I only suffered through the whole thing once, and that part of the performance one more time, but bit it looked like a cut to wide, then cut to audience, and then back to the wide with no regard to the beat of the action. Very odd.

The kiss and other stuff? Totally planned.

If you are going by last night’s performances at the AMA’s I wouldn’t be buying anyone’s CD right now’ ¦’ ¦..

You might not be shelling out for it, but I’m betting Kelly Clarkson is moving a few more units to *somebody*, considering “Already Gone” moved up 10 or 12 spots on iTunes since last night. (Or okay, maybe not since this album doesn’t seem to be selling in proportion to the singles. But it’s still a nice bump for the song.)

What the heck does that even mean? Carrie doesn’t count because she’s country? That makes no sense at all. She’s a really good singer, and she’s hugely popular, sells a ton of records, end of story. (And btw, I don’t like country music at all.)

Explanation: The person I replied to stated that singers who showcase their voices sell the best, with Carrie as an example. I assumed they were they trying to apply this to Adam, Kris’ or Allison’s situations somehow, since this an American Idol site and those three have been the topic of discussion in the past few days, and I replied that country is a completely different type of music market than the pop and pop-rock markets and the same rules do not apply; thus, to me, Carrie does not count as a relevant example. The person may have been talking about Danny–I don’t know, I didn’t read the context of the comment–and in that case I assumed incorrectly, although I believe my comment still stands in regards to Kradison.

Sometimes I just want to dash off a flippant comment without having to explain everything in its denotation in detail, you know? I think there’s just some disconnect between us because it’s the third time in two days that my point in some comment isn’t coming through to you and resulting in a misunderstanding. No need to get upset.

Plus Carrie and Susan Boyle don’t count b/c they operate in the alternate universes of country music and novelty sensation, respectively

What the heck does that even mean? Carrie doesn’t count because she’s country? That makes no sense at all. She’s a really good singer, and she’s hugely popular, sells a ton of records, end of story. (And btw, I don’t like country music at all.)

Seems to me the artists selling the best right now, like Kelly, Susan Boyle, and Carrie, showcase their voices.

Taylor Swift, Britney, Jay Z, Rihanna, Gaga (her voice is good but that’s not the main reason most people like her nor the focal point of her music)

Plus Carrie and Susan Boyle don’t count b/c they operate in the alternate universes of country music and novelty sensation, respectively

For better or worse, he certainly succeeded in sticking out from the heavy hitters.

Unfortunately, it had nothing to do with his talent.

Seems to me the artists selling the best right now, like Kelly, Susan Boyle, and Carrie, showcase their voices.

Nope. Rap/Hip hop artists always sell a lot and they highlight everything except their voices!

Adam definitely isn’t trying to please everyone, which is actually kind of admirable. He could easily conform and make tons of money. It’ll be interesting to see where he is a year from now.

Yes, there’s a lot of talking, but it seems to be focused on his performance; love it or hate it. I wonder if viewers who had never heard Adam sing prior to the AMAs think his vocal ability and FYE is worth spending $ on to buy his cd? If I had only seen/heard Adam based on last night’s performance, I would not have purchased his cd. I have purchased his cd b/c I heard him sing so well prior to the AMAs.

If you are going by last night’s performances at the AMA’s I wouldn’t be buying anyone’s CD right now……..

However, I would google Adam to find out more about him based on that performance.