Idol Headlines for 11/14/08

Is funny how a review can be so hateful (New Haven Register) vrs the Cornell Sun one… well I guess I better stop reading reviews, they don ´t do anything good for me…

That explains why diana was brought in

Paula wants out or was fired? I wonder if that means this season or next.

okay, anyone expecting ‘metal’ from David Cook is going to be disappointed. I don’t know who that guy was expecting but it wasn’t David.

Is funny how a review can be so hateful (New Haven Register) vrs the Cornell Sun oneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ well I guess I better stop reading reviews, they don ´t do anything good for meà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

You know, sometimes he small paper reviews can be the most hateful. I have no idea why. Maybe they have more to prove? I dunno. I ignore those, since I think they have no relevance whatsoever. LOL. Has anybody really ever bought (or not bought) an album off the recommendation of the West Bubblefuck Gazette? I don’t think so.

okay, anyone expecting à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹metalà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ from David Cook is going to be disappointed. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know who that guy was expecting but it wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t David.

It’s called a box and it’s time for reviewers to think outside of it…yes, grumble, grumble, I’m definately a DC fan, and I have on “rose-colored” ears when I listen to him…BUT, I read some good responses to the RS review (posted in yesterday’s headline comment thread) from some seemingly non AI fans, or at least tranditional ones…(but I really don’t know what I’m talking about since I don’t see myself as a traditional one either…and perhaps many others who post here don’t either.)

I like the herald-dispatch review.

I believe both David’s are only going to get better…

HDD has updated it’s predictions for Archie’s album:

Youth will also be served in the #2 slot, which will be occupied by the debut Idol runner-up David Archuleta (Jive/ZLG), with a projected 200-210k.

HDD

terps – did you me Kara DioGuardi?

These reviews are cracking me up. I’m just thinking back to when Carrie’s Some Hearts and Daughtry’s debut were getting panned. The best revenge is success and proof sometimes reviewers can’t always know what the public will want.

Those are still awesome numbers for Archie! I’m especially glad he’s beating T-Pain who I can’t stand.

The Yahoo blog is not a review as she has not heard the album yet and is just talking about Light On, I don’t know why she posted before the album dropped or why she did not listen to the album first.

The herald-dispatch review is quite good and the Boston Herald is another C-
but at least he thinks David will eventually do better. He gave Nickleback a C not much better than David. Being a big fan I sometimes wonder if these guys prejudge the album before they listen, they already have the review written in their heads and then listen to the record and make it fit their preconceptions. But I am not going to let that get me down, I am happy with what David C. did with this album.

There is a new article out about Jennifer Hudson. She posted a thank you to her fans from Celebrity her MySpace. It’s nothing huge, but still news

The Yahoo blog is not a review as she has not heard the album yet and is just talking about Light On, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know why she posted before the album dropped or why she did not listen to the album first.

Yeah, it does seem like that article is 2 months too late, doesn’t it? LOL. I forget there are DC fans out there who are JUST hearing Light On for the first time with the release of the video. She’s having the WTF reaction that some of his fans had back in October. I wonder what her reaction to the album will be.

That’s an interesting perspective on the yahoo blog, tinawina. If she really just heard LO, maybe only once, she may have had an immediate reaction of WTF? And sat down and blogged. LO was, for me, a song that took multiple listens, and I get the sense that’s true for a number of people. (Yeah, some people loved it immediately and others have never taken to it, but it seems like “grew on me” is the most common reaction that I’ve seen.)

okay, anyone expecting à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹metalà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ from David Cook is going to be disappointed.

What?! But I was sooo expecting from his covers of Little Sparrow and Always Be My Baby…

Yeah, some other tv show, with some other david cook, that guy must have been watching.

Brooke has a new blog, yes two in a week… she is listening to David Archuleta ´s album :wub_tb:

So to the cookies here, what are the scheduale for Mr. Cook next week????…

An interesting perspective on numbers:

US Album Sales in Meltdown

Americaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s sales meltdown gathered even more pace last week, with just 7.02m albums sold à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ a massive 29% down on the same week in 2007.

Just three albums sold more than 100,000 copies last week, whereas the entire Top 10 sold more than 100,000 in the same week last year. Leading this weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s list, the Twilight soundtrack – a hard rock selection, including new songs from Linkin Park, Paramore and Collective Soul among others à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ nabs the number one slot ahead of the filmà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s release, with sales of 164,710.

Music Week

Yikes!

BTW The article goes onto mention that “Crush” still holds the crown as the highest debut in the Hot 100 this year.

Is funny how a review can be so hateful (New Haven Register) vrs the Cornell Sun oneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ well I guess I better stop reading reviews, they don ´t do anything good for meà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

You know, sometimes he small paper reviews can be the most hateful. I have no idea why. Maybe they have more to prove? I dunno. I ignore those, since I think they have no relevance whatsoever. LOL. Has anybody really ever bought (or not bought) an album off the recommendation of the West Bubblefuck Gazette? I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think so.

The New Haven Register is NOT a small paper!
It has the 2nd biggest circulation #s for the state of CT with just over 89,000 daily readers… The leader is the Hartford Courant, with more than 264, 000 readers… My newspaper, the CT Post (formerly the Bridgeport Post), has a readership of just over 85,000…

The New Haven Register covers 19 cities/towns in 2 counties (both New Haven and Middlesex Counties), which covers approximately 1/4 of the state of CT… Considering that CT only has 8 counties, that is a huge chunk of territory…

Anyway, do not forget that one of the most prominent Ivy League Colleges in the WORLD is in New Haven, and that is YALE UNIVERSITY…
This SMALL university, has graduates such as BILL CLINTON, HILLARY CLINTON, JOHN KERRY, JOE LIEBERMAN, HOWARD DEAN, GEORGE H. W. BUSH, GEORGE W. BUSH, DICK CHENEY, CLARENCE THOMAS, SAMUEL ALITO, JENNIFER CONNOLLY, JODIE FOSTER, ANGELA BASSETT, JENNIFER BEALS, PAUL GIAMATTI, DAVID ALAN GRIER, PAUL NEWMAN, VINCENT PRICE, OLIVER STONE, MERYL STREEP, and SIGORNEY WEAVER, amongst others…

So please, New Haven, CT is NOT ‘West Bubblefuck’… :clap_tb: :wub_tb:

So to the cookies here, what are the scheduale for Mr. Cook next week????à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

Here you go.

11-14-08 Tonight Show W/ Jay Leno
11-15-08 Walmart Soundcheck
11-17-08 Good Morning America
11-19-08 Live W/ Regis & Kelly
11-21-08 Aol Sessions
11-22-08 Vh1 Top 20 Countdown
11-23-08 American Music Awards (pre-show)

This list is from DC.org

11/18 WPLJ acoustic set & Z100 chat LINK
Hard Rock Cafe concert later on in the evening. I think I’ve covered everything. LOL

WTF, are there 2 Jeb Gottliebs on the Boston Herald or does that guy have multiple personality disorder? I read his review above, and thought the journalist sounded familiar, and lo and behold, the same guy wrote just last week that DC’s album rocked…? HUH?

From 11/7:

Need more proof of rockà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s return? Listen to David Cook.

Yes, that David Cook. The season 7 à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  champ may not have Chris Cornellà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pedigree, but heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s doing his best to sound like a Seattle native.
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As heavy – at least compared with Aiken – as Daughtry is, Cook may be heavier. Most of the record is pretty generic stuff akin to his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  peers as influenced by Audioslave, Creed and other bland bands. But it undoubtedly rocks: à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Bar-ba-solà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  has a metallic crunch unheard in any of Simon Cowellà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s other offspring.

http://news.bostonherald.com/entertainment/music/general/view.bg?articleid=1130566

Cook has his Virgin Megastore appearance on 11/18 (I think it’s at 8:00 in the morning – they’re handing out 400 wristbands/tickets to the Hard Rock show).

The Boston Herald is a rag newspaper, so don’t let anything that’s written about any of the Idols get to you.

Thanks for that article, Kirsten. What is really interesting is when I look at some of those big names and then see what they open with or what they’ve gone on to sell. In my youth, back when god was a boy, 1.9 million for a band of Coldplay’s stature would have been considered a flop. Now it’s used as a measure for success. I guess both Cook and Archuleta fans can take heart in knowing that surely their respective labels MUST be happy with how things are going–given this climate.

So please, New Haven, CT is NOT à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹West Bubblefuckà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ :clap_tb: :wub_tb:

LOL. Wow, that was in impassioned response. I know where New Haven is, I lived in Boston for years. I also worked at several Ivy league colleges, so I am familiar with Yale. That said… nobody cares about New Haven except New Haven. I am now in Cincinnati, which is by no mans small, but I guarantee you nobody cares what our reviewers say either. It’s just part of the territory with not being in a major city, imo. No offense.

The Boston Herald is a rag newspaper, so donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t let anything thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s written about any of the Idols get to you.

Ain’t that the truth. I wrote the same thing over at DCO. LOL.

Brooke has a new blog

Aw, and she’s adorable as always. And hooray, she changed the font color!!

Well in this article they are both pretty cute:

Seventeen year old “Archie” says he’s giving the older David’s single “Light On” prominent play on his iPod – while the Idol winner is so sure of the younger David’s success that he’s incorporating the “Crush” singer into his own career backup plan.

“I think David A. is destined for great things – he has the talent to pull it off,” 25-year-old David C. tells In Touch. “If my record flops, maybe he’ll need a guitar player!”

lol at the Cookie line at the end…

DAVID’S ALBUM DOES NOT SUCK!%@^@&&!^$!$@
uuuuugh
why are people so mean?

and i really hope paula stays. i think the 3 judges are a necessity to idol’s success

Isn’t Ellen on 11/26? DCO is still listing that.

Then there’s also Rockefeller Center for the tree lighting on 12/3
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20081113nbc02

DAVIDà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢S ALBUM DOES NOT SUCK!%@^@&&!^$!$@

Amen Brother!!!! :clap_tb: :clap_tb:

oops haha. Yeah, Ellen is 11/26.

Wow, who knew Archie could arouse such emotion. I guess if you don’t like him or the album, you really don’t like them. Even the good review starts off with the reviewer saying he wanted to vomit everytime he head Archie on Idol.
It’s kind of a shame that the best song (Works for Me) is a bonus song. Might temper down on the vitriol. Reviews like that make me extra glad, he didn’t win Idol. Imagine if he was the actual winner and not the runner up.

Too bad for them that the album is critic proof. I don’t usually read music reviews but I’m guessing only a few really matter for musicians – Rolling Stone, Billboard, maybe the NY Times. I’m not saying Archie’s album is a masterpiece but it definitely doesn’t suck.

I hope that Paula doesn’t leave, she makes the show entertaining (in her own way) just like Simon does :smile1_ee:

FremantleMedia Enterprises Partners with The Colibri Group for à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ -Themed Jewelry and Accessories

The jewelry should sell well, but watches? Have you seen a watch on anyone under 35 lately? I believe they all use their cell phones :rolleyes_tb:

David talking about a cougar encounter…and stuff.

I’m not up to date on the posts in the previous threads so I might have missed seeing these posted elsewhere.

Cookie’s album booklet

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*I found them posted by my friend in my local Cookie forum…I’m not sure who actually scanned the pics but thanks.*

Thank god Paula is leaving. I’m sorry, but she just really fell apart this year. She was hardly coherent. I used to like her, but I don’t know what happened to her. So I am glad that there won’t be four judges (ala Nigel…LOL). So I think it is good news….Nigel gone, check…….Paula gone, check…..now the dawg needs to go.

Is it actually confirmed that Paula’s leaving…?

I’m sure that some reviewers for small-town newspapers do feel they have to display their “street cred” as pop culture arbiters. But hey, as a writer for several smallish suburban papers, I have to say, “Whoa” on the West Bubble**** reference. That said, I’m very glad that my little employer doesn’t engage in reviews that are better left to the big guys. That said, the New Haven register guy was just over the top. And New Haven’s not even a small town! :wink1_tb:

I hope the Paula thing is just a rumor. I think AI without Paula, Randy and Nigel might be less wonderful than people imagine. We’ll see but usually once TV shows get “fixed” they’re too broken to actually repair. The booklet for Cook’s album is very well designed but so gloomy.

I guess I gotta come up with a cool name first… But for now I Suppose I just gotta keep working with Brooke White.

I like Brooke White just fine myself. LOL at:

…maybe if I went back and “watched the tape” I would have stopped interrupting Simon and say “it’s okay” a million times…

It’s endearing the way Brooke writes (even as she could do with an editor, heh)…in full stream-of-consciousness fashion.

I don’t remember seeing this posted. Excuse me if it has been.
http://www.dfw.com/entertainment/story/62527.html.
I think this guy understands where DC is coming from – or maybe going to.

I am surprised to see that allmusic.com has put up a review of DC’s Analog Heart. It gets 3 1/2 stars out of 5, which is pretty good for allmusic.com.

It’s interesting, this review wasn’t there yesterday. I expect they’ll have the review of the new CD up soon.

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:hcfixzt5ldje

^The link doesn ´t work for me…

^The link doesn ´t work for meà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

Sorry, I can’t seem to fix the link. You can go to allmusic.com and search for David Cook to see the review.

In my humble opinion, some of the reviews of Archie’s album that are, how shall we say, more strident in their tone, reveal that those critics would sooner eat glass than give him praise. It’s as if their very careers hang in the balance. I don’t have a problem with criticizing the album on its merits. I love it, but there are things to criticize. But the tone of some these reviews is just ridiculous. I think some are reviewing him through the prism of the season and AI. He didn’t stand a chance with some of these guys.

Eh, so be it. He’s doing just fine.

Here is a Q & A session with Cookie from the San Francisco Gate.

Pop Quiz: David Cook

That allmusic.com review has been up for a while, but they’ve just now added the rating. Interesting. I wonder if they wanted to have a baseline?

That allmusic.com review has been up for a while, but theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve just now added the rating. Interesting. I wonder if they wanted to have a baseline?

Thanks, FolkFan, I didn’t know the review had been there. I didn’t look past there being no rating.

I’m thinking the same thing, they are establishing a point of reference for the new CD.

Thanks Pam for the link. Aiden (the interviewer) was rather pleasant since he tends to be *really* snarky and elitist. I’m sure he was forced to interview Cook

allmusic.com also now added checks for the recommended songs on the new DC record. In addition to LO, they’ve checked two of my favorites, Declaration and Bar-ba-sol.

‘American Idol’ Viewers Support Judges In Suicide Case

David Cook is hosting AOL’s Top 11 Music Video Countdown…now.

Cookieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s album booklet

Wha? Where’s his 3500-word opus of thanks?

Cook, come on dude, you’re slackin’!

:lol_tb: :lol_tb:^

I have to say, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Whoaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  on the West Bubble**** reference.

LOL. I’m sorry, I actually meant that kinda tounge-in-cheek, but I’ve obviously struck several nerves. Can we make up now?

:blush_tb:

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ Viewers Support Judges In Suicide Case

You know that expression that Simon had on his face after he watched Fantasia perform this year? Yeah, well that’s the expression I have on my face right now.

Seriously? Fox had some research group poll people on this right after it happened and had then published the results? Seriously? Huh. Where are the poll results from BushBabyGate? From Paula-Reviews-Before-He-Sings-Gate? etc. etc. etc.

I’m quite surprised that Fox jumped on this so quickly. What a whack-a-doodle poll anyway. I love how they say that the 300 people survey were broken evenly into three groups. “Watch Idol all the Time”, “Watch Idol ‘Sometimes’” and “Watch Idol ‘Never’”

Here are the actual published results:
Always Watch the Show
Yes 24%
No 52%
Not Sure 24%

Sometimes Watch the Show
Yes 35%
No 37%
Not Sure 28%

Never Watch the Show
Yes 43%
No 40%
Not Sure 17%

What the hell does that even mean? How can you be not sure if you always watch the show?

Billboard.com review is in, and all in all, it’s a good one. Highlights Declaration, LO, Bar-ba-sol, and Permanent.

What the hell does that even mean? How can you be not sure if you always watch the show?

They’re drinking what Paula is drinking by 8pm EST Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

Q: Do you think there’s a “From David to David” movie in your future?

A: I implore somebody to tell me where that plot goes.

HAHAHHAHA, good answer Mr. Cook.

Aiden (the interviewer) was rather pleasant since he tends to be *really* snarky and elitist. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure he was forced to interview Cook

Good to know. It’s always nice to have context like that, because I wasn’t sure if I was detecting a bit of bite in some of his questions/comments. I’m glad he decided to play nice .

David Cook is hosting AOLà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Top 11 Music Video Countdownà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦now.

Argh, not working for me. Did I miss it or is it my computer? Will it replay? Nevermind– it’s working

I have to say, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Whoaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  on the West Bubble**** reference.

LOL. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sorry, I actually meant that kinda tounge-in-cheek, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve obviously struck several nerves. Can we make up now?

Oh, I know it was tongue-in-cheek, and I wasn’t mad. (Plus, you were absolutely right in what you said about the writers trying to prove themselves, tinawina!) Now, my small-town newspaper deadlines beckon. Thank goodness I mainly write from home, cause otherwise my OCDCD would be a bit of a challenge to indulge. :rolleyes_tb:

David Cook interviewed by L. A. Times.

“We’ve actually got some twists and turns on this record, some secrets along the way to spice it up. There is a song that does have a little bit of L.A. rock swagger to it. The whole songwriting process was about how this is going to parlay live. I wanted big, open songs; I wanted those U2 bridges that could go on for a day and a half and the crowd would just eat it up. And I feel like we pulled it off. A lot of these songs are just very, very big. I love it!”

Thanks for the Billboard Review link FolkFan. That’s a pretty good review! I’ll take it!

A readable scan of Cookie’s album “thanks”….

Well cant win em all… D:
http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/37972

“However, “David Cook” is so formulaic, it might as well be labeled simply “Rock Singer” (no title, no name, no photo) and deposited directly into the discount racks at Wal-Mart.”

Its kinda funny in that, ‘oh snap did they just say that?!?’ way… lol
Cookie, I dont expect to find you in the discount bin!

Its got some good qualities though too:

So potential hits are available, such as opening cut “Declaration,” where meaty guitars support Cook as he sings about standing alone against the world, and also the raucous, classic-rock tinged “Heroes,” where he earnestly belts about how heroes come and go.

“David Cook” is serviceable elsewhere, too, from its raw “Bar-Ba-Sol” to its radio-friendly (and somewhat subdued) “Avalanche” to its piano-and-strings ballad “Permanent” to its fairly restrained and upbeat closer “The Time of My Life.”

declaration and avalanche are in my top favs

Kind of a strange review, to call the CD formulaic, but then to go through and note that there are a lot of different styles of song on the CD. And the reviewer did not seem to realize that Magic Rainbow is the coronation single. (?!) Ah, well.

lol yeah folk fan

A readable scan of Cookieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s album à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“thanksà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

lol at thanking TV shows.

Interesting… Archie is the only one Cook didn’t call by nickname. Not “Archie” but “David Archuleta.” I think it’s a sign of respect. Not that he doesn’t respect the others, but you know…

soundscene I noticed that too! It’s so interesting, but I’ve always speculated that DC was the one to use the Archie nickname initially. It seems like something he does often– give his friends endearing nicknames. We know he calls Carly Taters, and went through a series of random nicknames for Ramiele, ranging from Darren to Asian foods to Ramama, and so on. But I heard a radio interview recently where DC referenced DA as Archie, and the female host just lost it. She was like, wait, did you just call him Archie, and started hysterically laughing, really obnoxiously, to the point DC barely finished his point. So I dunno, I don’t think DC will stop calling DA Archie (me neither, I think it’s cute), but at the same time, maybe he felt like for the album thank you, he wanted to make sure there was no question as to his seriousness? Does that make sense? Haha, anyway I have no idea, but I guess that’s my unfounded speculation/overanalysis of the day.

^^^ I think that is interesting also soundscene.

Looking back, Mavid seemed like a lot of fun/interaction between a ham (MJ) and his bud (DC) and was one of the highlights of the tour. Whereas, the two Davids seem to show a more genuine affection toward each other and a respect for each other’s artistry, not only during the competition and the tour, but ongoing. Anyway, I think he used “David Archuleta” the full name because it was going down in writing for all time on his album and he wanted to be formal about it. And I think that is really nice

Btw, was Kim you-know-who mentioned in the thank you piece? If so, I missed it.

I didn’t see Kim’s name, but then again, he may have used a code name. Interesting….

And, I’m guessing “Ungawa” is Ramiele.

………a code name……hmmmmm…..will have to re-read. :smoke_tb:

What cracks me up is that for all the stuff Archie got for his liner note thank yous…Cookie names just about the same amount of people. He just didn’t ramble on and on about WHY he was thanking them? tee hee

Some more of the pics from SNL:

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No surprises emerge from Cook’s kitchen

It’s hard for me to take this reviewer (from Scripps) seriously when he calls DC/DC formulaic right after he starts his review with this cliche ^. People who live in glass houses…

Interestingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ Archie is the only one Cook didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t call by nickname.

Maybe DC’s hoping Archuleta’s fans will buy anything with his name on it? Just kidding, just kidding!!

Maybe DCà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hoping Archuletaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans will buy anything with his name on it? Just kidding, just kidding!!

Then he should have put it smack dab on the front cover. Something like, “David Cook (DAVID ARCHULETA is the other one)”

David C. is one of Entertainment Weekly’s Breakout Stars.

EW really likes him. Yay.

Ah, yes, and the lack of love for Archie from EW continues. I don’t think it will matter how many singles or albums he sells or how high he climbs in radio. He just won’t matter to them.

Congrats to Cook, though.

EW really likes him. Yay.

I’d say so.

That’s awesome. I have a lot of pop-culture-loving friends who pay attention to that issue of EW.

At this point though, imo the true breakout artist is David A. Sorry don’t shoot me. but I’m sure EW knows what they are talking about . Congrats Cook

I’ve never really been one for shooting someone just because I disagree with him or her, so no bullets from this corner. I’m merely say that it’s good to see some folks in the media agreeing with us DC fans that he is a rising star.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m merely say that ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s good to see some folks in the media agreeing with us DC fans that he is a rising star.

And, thinking of what a “breakout star” actually is…meaning outside of a few people, he was relatively unknown until Jan/Feb of this year. The media loves a rags to riches story. Plus he’s a nice guy.

Anyway, just posting news that I come across.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve never really been one for shooting someone just because I disagree with him or her, so no bullets from this corner. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m merely say that ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s good to see some folks in the media agreeing with us DC fans that he is a rising star.

I don’t deny that Cook is a rising star and that he deserves the placement in the issue. But if they put Cook in, any type of fair analysis of 2008 would dictate that they put Archie in as well. But then again, EW isn’t very fair, and its entertainment coverage has less to do with a critical analysis of pop culture and its actual successes than its editors’ personal list of who is “cool” and who must be dismissed.

Oy! MJ, feel free to delete my link if you’d like. Thanks.

Anyway, just posting news that I come across.

Thank you Gwen. I appreciate it. .

There’s been plenty of positive and negative news to go around for both Davids. In the end, it’s a wash, really, in my opinion.

David Cook Walmart Soundcheck is UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don’t think I posted anything fanwar-ish. I acknowledge and congratulate Cook. It just gets frustrating that Archie is consistently overlooked by a lot of the mainstream press (ok, mostly EW). He’s dismissed a lot. After awhile, it gets a little tiring. It has nothing to do with Cook.

Oy! MJ, feel free to delete my link if youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d like. Thanks.

Absolutely not. I don’t run a fan blog.

It just gets frustrating that Archie is consistently overlooked by a lot of the mainstream press (ok, mostly EW).

Right. Mostly EW. And they are hardly the entire mainstream press. See my post above.

David Cook Walmart Soundcheck is UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aw, heck yeah!!!

Soundscene, it just one magazine, and not even one that targets his demo. I understand your frustration, but IMO the Davids don’t have to move in tandem or anything. This is not going to make or break either of their careers. Archie just had a GREAT week. Lots to celebrate! Try not to let stuff like this get you down.

I was just expressing an opinion–I wasn’t meaning for people to take my opinion that seriously. I know it’s not a big deal. I’m not a big fan of EW, that’s ok. It will continue for me that way, apparently.

I’m listening to this soundcheck right now. I wish the sound quality was a little better, but so far so good!

It does sound a little flat, kind of like the acoustics in the room weren’t all that great. There’s still such a greater benefit to seeing him perform “live” versus listening, although both are good.

Did you notice that Suave is advertising on that soundcheck? Just kidding. Could they make that any more obvious? Cook and Archie are just going to be promoted differently and that’s the way it is. Archie will get the teen/Jordin promo while Cook gets the more serious RCA treatment.

That was pretty good. You can tell they really like “Bar-ba-sol.”

I loved watching them play live—they really seem to have gelled, despite not being together for very long. And, yeah, they love Bar-ba-sol. Also, the person filming it loves the drummer. A lot.

It sounded good on my computer. [Sends silent thank you to younger brother for suggesting the laptop with good speakers.]

I was just expressing an opinion

I know. Sorry if I came across a little jumpy. I can be a little cranky during record release season.

But if they put Cook in, any type of fair analysis of 2008 would dictate that they put Archie in as well.

In all due respect, whose fair analysis…yours? It was EWs article, so it was their analysis, just like any other reviewer is entitled to “their analysis”. I personally have my own “analysis”. But it doesn’t matter. I respect each reviewer’s comments. I may not agree with them, but it doesn’t matter. Also, by saying they did not do a “fair analysis”, IMO is undermining their review and the fact that they thought Cook deserved Breakout star…because after all…they didn’t do a fair “analysis”. I happen to agree with their review, but others may not. That is fine. Maybe they determined that “winning” American Idol was a key factor in their naming him a Breakout star. I don’t know. Becoming the American Idol, after all, is a huge honor and deserves recognition. In my opinion, David Cook and David Archuleta are not joined at the hip. Just because one gets an honor, does not mean the other is spited if they don’t get it. Each guy will have their good and bad reviews and each guy will get honors as time progresses.

By the way, I enjoy reading what everybody posts whether they are for or against “my idol”. I enjoy reading others points of view whether I agree or disagree with them.

Loved those versions of Lie and Barbasol. David was not having a good Light On day,lol, but he’s certainly improved a lot since this thing was taped a couple of weeks ago. I wish they would release “Lie” as the next single. So pretty.

Someone who went to the Leno taping said they changed it up a bit for tonight, added some more keyboard and background vocals to the chorus, and it came out great.

I can see why EW wouldn’t want 20% of their rising stars to be from the same cheesy reality TV show, no matter how much the magazine loves the show.

Taylor has a new audio blog up on his Myspace; (and his other official sites) Basically he’s been in the studio this past week …. recording!

He’s excited & can’t wait for his fans to hear the new CD. Sounds like he’ll have it done & in the can b4 he starts touring ‘Grease’.

For those who are interested.

The acoustics on the SoundCheck seem really weird. It’s almost like it sounds muffled or something? I also really love “Lie”. So pretty. Of course I immediately went to Barbasol first. My fav!

The acoustics on the SoundCheck seem really weird. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s almost like it sounds muffled or something?

Yeah, that.

“Light On” is still my least favorite song.

Oooh, Wal Mart Soundcheck! Hmm, I thought the sound was pretty good. “Lie” is just so, so pretty. It’s fast becoming one of my favorites. (At least today). And “Bar Ba Sol” – guh. Hot…

I see a “David Cook Soundcheck EP” (coming soon) button on the page. We will get to buy these? Cool!

Soundscene, it just one magazine, and not even one that targets his demo. I understand your frustration, but IMO the Davids donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have to move in tandem or anything. This is not going to make or break either of their careers. Archie just had a GREAT week. Lots to celebrate! Try not to let stuff like this get you down.

Amen, tinawina. Archie will be fine-he doesn’t need validation from EW in order to succeed in this business. So far, he seems to be doing just fine without their stamp of approval. Both Davids are going to have critics who love them and those who don’t, but if people are still buying their music (which so far seems to be the case since they both have singles that are about to reach the platinum mark in sales), it’s all good. Critical acclaim and validation is nice, but commercial success is what’s going to allow them the opportunity to record a sophomore release with their respective labels.

Well said, Mac. EW likes DC? Couldn’t that perhaps be because they like something about his music, or his performance style, or hell, his spiky hair and boots?

Six months after the end of Idol, that Magic Rainbow song that everyone assumed was a throwaway is still getting thousands of spins on three formats and is approaching platinum in a crap market. And DC was invited to serenade the former First Lady and presidential candidate because people still recall a performance of his from last May. And, while LO has not been a huge seller, it is his second single to hit top 40 on Top 40 and top 20 on HAC. And there are high hopes that the record will be a success. Looking solely at DC, and not taking into account any other Idol contestant, a fair analysis of the situation could conclude that DC is a breakout star.

I am not sure if this article was referenced in this blog but it’s a positive one in the sea of sorry excuses for music review like EW, NH, BH, etc. Since someone mentioned Yale, I live in Princeton and our snobbish town here loves David Archuleta and his album.

http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2008/11/archuleta-david.html

I don’t post here but enjoy reading sometimes.

Maybe I missed it, but does anyone know what DC sings on Leno? I assume Light On, but wish it would be Declaration or Bar-Ba- Sol.

Lie is really growing on me.

Wow….Cookie was really off key in some of the soundcheck songs – I don’t hear that often from him. Still enjoyed it alot!

Does anyone have the Taylor link? I don’t have Myspace. Thanks.

I live in Princeton and our snobbish town here loves David Archuleta and his album.

I always knew I liked Princeton better :wink_wp:

Thank you for posting the article..

The Wal-mart Soundcheck is up early!
http://soundcheck.walmart.com/david_cook.aspx

I love Lie, Declaration, and Bar-ba-sol. Heroes is one that I like but don’t love, but it definitely sticks with me, and it was great live.

MJ, are you going to do a separate thread for the Walmart Soundcheck, or should we all just comment here?

After listening to all the songs on the album and now watching Soundcheck I seriously want to beat over the head whoever chose LO for the first single. RCA, you suck.

I went out and bought that EW issue and I don’t know if this was mentioned but the review for the CD in the print issue names Bar-ba-sol as the ‘download this’ recommendation. Also on the subject of EW, now I will never complain when he gets any kind of press so I’m happy to see him pop up in magazines for whatever reason..but is this Breakout Star thing that big? I mean they also name a dog on the list.

FWIW I too also thought calling Archie by his full name in the notes was a sign of respect. Very sweet.

The Soundcheck thing was cool. Great interview. He went way off key during Light ON, but that’s not my favorite song anyway so I don’t care. LOL. The rest was great. Go Cookie!

Trina –

but is this Breakout Star thing that big? I mean they also name a dog on the list.

OMG! ROFL!

I agree with everybody here about LO in terms of the soundcheck. I noticed it too. Lie was beautiful.

I liked Lie best in the soundcheck, too.

but is this Breakout Star thing that big? I mean they also name a dog on the list.

Yeah, but it was Angel from Beverly Hills Chihuahua! And in the article it says “Angel sported an enviable wardrobe of hats, shoes, and jewels.” Not an easy feat for a chihuahua. LOL

Soundcheck, yay! Lie and Declaration sound SOO good live. And they rock on the album too. Bar-ba-sol was just fun. I still like studio LO, but yeah, not the easiest song to sing live (and I was one of those who thought he did great on SNL). Besides, the sound mix didn’t do DC any favors here. It seemed to get better from Lie onwards though? I dunno, didn’t really take to Heroes on the album, and not sure I’m feeling it too much live either…

Anyways, DC on Leno tonight! Can’t wait to check out the re-jiggered LO. The Soundcheck thing was one of their first live gigs, so I’m sure they’ve worked out the kinks by now, just in time for the TV rounds .

The acoustics on the SoundCheck seem really weird. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s almost like it sounds muffled or something?

Yeah. I think it’s the mix between the voice and instruments too. The more acoustic one (Lie) sounds the best of all and pretty awesome btw.
It’s not as much as he’s off key during Light On, but he was using his grittier voice, makes it different.

Yeah—there have been times (AI and otherwise) that I thought that he was off-key, but then listened through headphones and realized that it was a stylized voice, rather than being off-key. (I still think that he was off-key on Innocent, though.)

Miley Cyrus – And here I thought she was just the bane of Archie’s existence. lol

Can we have Cookie already, Jay?

Soundcheck is up already? Cool. Off the watch the interview first. (OK it’s so not loading.) Their acoustics have always been bad, horrible, you can say. I can only imagine. But I don’t mind~It’s David! And Neal!

LOL, love EW, and that…Shailene Woodley is cute, I want her dress. Oh…Russell Brand… Chris Martin is going to make jokes about him.(and write a song about drunk uncle.)

Forgot about Leno… Miley? Really? Ew.

I posted this in the Paula thread but thought it should probably be in this one.

Reporter’s catch up to Bo Bice and ask what he thought about the whole Paula Goodspeed, Paula Abdul thing. Bo comes off a bit scatter brained.

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=a1a3f735-5f6c-4f3d-afba-17634c8a2bfe

OMG David kicked A$$ on Light On! That was fantastic!

Wow, “Light On” sounded MUCH better on Leno. Really, really good.

I thought it was awesome! Sounds like the ladies in the audience loved it too. haha

Wow that LO performance was good! and he looked purdy. I loved the little smile that broke out after the audience woohooooed over the big glorynote on ‘yeeaahhhh’.

Hee. Loved it. DC rocked on Leno. Did u see Miley gave him like a thumbs up or something? Haha. Whatevs little girl.

LO on Leno was fantastic. I think that he’s figured out how to transition from that glory note to the acoustic bridge.

And, yes, he looked great and happy. And damn, if you didn’t know that that band had been together for such a short time, you’d never guess it from the performances.

That was the David Cook we all know and love! So happy for him & his band that their Leno performance was so outstanding! David’s Baaaaaaaaaaack!

I think he’s learning how to sing that song live.

LOL @ Andy’s red pants.

The band really is becoming more cohesive, though.

I’m still swooning over Lie on Soundcheck. Those are fantastic versions of all of the songs, but you can really tell that he’s so much more comfortable singing any other song but LO. So weird they picked that to be the first single that he has to go around singing everywhere. It really doesn’t play to his strength as a performer, that ability to lose himself in a song and take us with him. Declaration would have been a much better introduction to the general public for the album. And Lie needs to be a single soon!

They were great on Leno. Loved Andy’s pink pants! I think I had the same pair about 20 years ago!

David sang LO a little lower on Leno, the same way that he did on SNL. It sounds sooo much better that way.

So I’m watching my (other) BF Conan right now, and he just said the musical guest is the entire guest of the Off-Broadway show Rock of Ages. Isn’t that Constantine’s show? I don’t follow him, but thought I learned that on this site… I’ve heard good things about that show actually, but I’ll probably not stay up for that. Anyway, just curious if folks knew.

Dante, I found Taylor’s new link on Soulthing.blogspot.com. I’m sure you can find it on any one of the Taylor fan sites also. Cook was great sounding on Leno tonight and I liked the band better, I think they are starting to feel more confident in their roles. David is looking more rested and happy lately. Maybe he likes being in Ca. near his best girl. Love has a way of smoothing the rough edges of life.

Not to get lost in the David mania–not a complaint mind you, that’s how it goes when his album release is only a few days away, but Jason tidbit from his website.

Exclusive VIP Lunch with Jason Castro! The GRAMMY Charities Online Auction benefiting the MusiCares Foundation runs from December 1 -11. Be sure to visit http://www.ebay.com/grammy You wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want to miss out on your chance to bid on an exclusive lunch for you and a guest with Jason!

So I’m watching my (other) BF Conan right now, and he just said the musical guest is the entire guest of the Off-Broadway show Rock of Ages. Isn’t that Constantine’s show?

Yep. I’m watching it and recording it right now. lol.

The Cook vid is up.

LOL Con is cheestastic. I can’t wait to post this.

I just watched Con and the cast of Rock of Ages do Here I Go Again. It actually looks like it would be a fun show. The female lead was pretty good. I don’t think I’ll be making a special visit to NYC to see it but if I was in town I would check it out. I like the jazz hands finish but that one note he hit was rough. LOL.

A snippet of MJ’s Christmas Song is now up at MJO…

MJO Exclusive! Preview of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Another Christmasà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  by Michael Johns!

Just watched the Soundcheck vids. DC and the band looked and sounded great. The mix was a little wonky like everyone said, but at least it brought David’s voice to the fore and who knows, maybe that mix works in the environment of a Walmart electronics department (where they show these vids on the TVs)?

Now I’m watching Leno and waiting for DC’s performance. Seriously, does Miley’s FACE have to be in every single shot of Jason Statham’s interview?! I guess it’s the widescreen HD picture but I’ve never seen the first guest all up in the second guest’s facetime like that.

Missed the whole EW discussion last night, but I wanted to say that I’m a pop culture junkie and EW is one of my magazines of choice. I read them online, subscribe to the actual mag, and all that. I love it, and have for a long time.

What I don’t really understand is why they would be required to list both Davids as “breakout stars.” Just as an example, the dude who plays Dixon on 90210 is listed (which I totally agree with), but the rest of the cast isn’t. DC has had enough accomplishments this year to be considered a breakout star on his own merit without being attached at the hip to DA on the heels of the “Battle of the Davids” hook. Not to say that DA doesn’t deserve it – he’s doing really well right now – but I don’t agree that it has to be a “both or neither” mentality.

Kinda random but Archie was spotted at an Alanis Morisette concert in LA

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Ozarka – a B PLUS. People keep forgetting the PLUSes. haha!

EW just loves to stir fan war that’s all. Good for Cook that he’s a break out star of EW,

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Actually, I did the plus sign, but apparently MJ site doesn’t accept it. LOL!

Since someone mentioned Yale, I live in Princeton and our snobbish town here loves David Archuleta and his album

As a Princetonian myself this made me laugh! I’m a Cook fan but count me in as one of those who love David Archuleta as well!

Wowà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.Cookie was really off key in some of the soundcheck songs – I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t hear that often from him. Still enjoyed it alot!

Having heard him perform it live, it makes me wonder how his voice doesn’t always translate well in other media forms. When he performed LO at the David Wright gala, I don’t think he missed a single note in the song, and I was actually surprised because I didn’t think he was perfectly in tune on SNL. He’s definitely one of those singers who sounds better live!