Idol Headlines for 11/12/09

FYI Janet Jackson will be opening the AMAs.

The Spin review for Adam was awesome.

FYI Janet Jackson will be opening the AMAs.

Thats exciting!

I think the AMA performance will be the most interesting. It was suggested that Adam was going for film noir, and I don’t remember seeing that style recently. I just want to see his face (so no masks, and no bouffant hair, por favor). I would hate a stache, too, but whatever, since clean cut/emo hair Adam! works best for me.

Gonna wait to see what others say and then I will chime in. I just hope we can concentrate on the music and not on the dating!

Yes, the Spin review was terrific (tho surprised it only got 3.5 stars out of 5). Wonder if they evaluated the whole album?

Ok anyone else find it funny that Kris was asked to comment on Adam’s love life. That was strange, but I’m sure Kris probably thought it was funny.

The Spin review is great; really happy for Adam so far.

Just saw that Allison is scheduled to appear on Ellen on Thursday December 3. (That’s two days after her appearance on Good Morning America on December 1.)

That 5 Questions article with DC is one of the most informative yet. I really love the ideas for album # 2.

Aww

A: We both kind of lived in the Tulsa area for a while. She’s from Checotah and I lived in Tulsa. I don’t know. It’s one of those random things. We’re two people who met each other who happen to get along. She’s been amazing. She’s made herself available. Someone of her stature has no reason to do that. She calls me Cookie, and I call her Ms. Underwood. And it’ll probably stay that way until I reach her level.

So theres the confirmation about the “Cookie” in her liner notes. Too cute.

And this about Twitter?

“I got beat down. I stopped looking at it as something I had to do.” And as soon as that happened, Cook began seeing twitter as a different way of connecting with people, and sharing. If he’s listening to new music, he likes the ability to instantaneously be able to tweet about it. “It’s immediate, which is cool.” But he says he still won’t be tweeting about what he had for lunch or other mundane matters.

He does use Twitter very effectively quite often, but God love him he totally does post mundane shit LOL.

Adam has A LOT Of competition on the 23rd looking at that MTV article. The one good thing is that Beyonce and Lady Gaga’s are re-releases.

He does use Twitter very effectively quite often, but God love him he totally does post mundane shit LOL.

This is a good example of that. Heh

thedavidcook: Where is that worm I was promised for getting up this early?!?
about 4 hours ago from mobile web

That “5 Questions” article with David Cook has so much goodness in it:

To that end, Cook — a guitarist — is trying to beef up his piano-playing skills. “The goal right now is to try to get it to where I can play it live.”

eep. I would die.

She calls me Cookie, and I call her Ms. Underwood.

These two are just SO cute. I may have to buy her CD just for the liner notes. Is that wrong?

I seriously cannot wait for DCTR#2.

Glad to see LLWD re-entered Billboard Top 100 at #92

http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100#/charts/hot-100?begin=91&order=position

Currently # 38 in Top 40 radio spins

http://www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/insideradio/charts.asp?format=1&showyear=y&dpt=n

Votefortheworst review of Kris’ album.

http://www.votefortheworst.com/20091109/vote_worst_album_review_kris_allen

Billboard charts are up.

Top 100:

LLWD #92 (re-entry)
Cowboy Casanova #21 (up 6 spots)
Already Gone #19 (up 2 spots)

I found it interesting that the AMA has 18 performances, those who are currently the biggest in the industry. In the TV description it only lists about half a dozen, which includes Adam.

Where is that worm I was promised for getting up this early?!?

Oh crap, that was so similar to my facebook status this morning. LOL!

VFTW cd review? Hmmmkay, I just was waiting for a pie in the face, or at least a slip on a banana peel. Somehow I just don’t take them seriously over there, but a nice review, FWIW.

Ok anyone else find it funny that Kris was asked to comment on Adam’s love life. That was strange, but I’m sure Kris probably thought it was funny.

count me in. He’s staying polite but I bet he thinks it’s a stupid question. And so do I especially that he’s much going on for him these days

Excited for Glee’s All-Madonna Episode!

“In the Air Tonight” was my immediate reaction to the new “Heartless.” Even went and played Phil Collins just to check. And then replayed new “Heartless” stream a significant number of times. And look forward to owning it. Enjoying it so much helped make up for the soul removal that happened to “Can’t Stay Away” in the studio. Played that scratchy Miami live recording over and over. Kris bringing de funk, hitting the groove, just a delight. But that thing on the album? No got de funk. At all. YMMV. But for me, dawg, more Kris live, please, less Kris filtered.

Still not grasping the marketing intelligence behind streaming an entire album live, for free, and not having it available for immediate purchase. It feels like shopping for expensive shoes, finding a pair that’s gorgeous and fits comfortably, decide to splurge, and the store saying, sorry, no, go home and think about it first. IMHO, Jive, it’s out of touch with today’s instant, online, click-it-now expectations. Doesn’t make sense.

thedavidcook: Where is that worm I was promised for getting up this early?!?

I am embarrassed to say, when I first saw that, I thought he was making some tequila reference. (OOOOH! Early bird. Worm. I get it.)

If David can make it happen, he also plans on keeping all the band members the same for the next CD.

Does this mean Phil Marshall’s going to have to find a new bass player rather than David?

Like this, from the following interview:

http://www.pjstar.com/entertainment/x1659498237/David-Cook-answers-fans-questions-ahead-of-Civic-Center-show

Q.: PJS: Does your dog tour with you?

A.: He did, and then we were in New York and he got a little anxious while I was out and destroyed my hotel room. My dog’s way more rock star than I could ever be. He’s back in Kansas City, my little brother takes care of him. He did everything short of gluing the furniture on the ceiling. I just walked in and was like, ‘Damn.’

Votefortheworst review of Kris’ album.

http://www.votefortheworst.com/20091109/vote_worst_album_review_kris_allen

Wow, they didn’t hate it! Two thumbs up for VFTW. Wait till they get to FYE. *shuddering*

I wish the media would stop asking Kris ANYTHING about Adam, dammit.

some nice promo for the ‘Kaleidoscope’  event david a will be appearing and singing on… taping is monday in dc, it airs on fox thanksgiving day.. the all caps come from the article, not me

more at the link…

IT DOESN’T GET MUCH MORE AWESOME FOR FANS OF FIGURE SKATING:
DOROTHY HAMILL, SCOTT HAMILTON, KRISTI YAMAGUCHI AND
NANCY KERRIGAN ON THE ICE!

Olympic skating legends and award-winning music artists will get
together for ‘Kaleidoscope,’  a holiday variety special to raise awareness for cancer.

BY BRYNN BOYER
Date published: 11/12/2009

This Thanksgiving, the kaleidoscope takes on a new meaning. ‘Kaleidoscope’  is the name of the holiday variety special in which Olympic figure skaters and Grammy award-winning musical artists perform together to recognize women’s battle against cancer.

‘Kaleidoscope’  will come to the Verizon Center on Nov. 16, and will air on Fox on Thanksgiving Day.

Like a kaleidoscope, the show will present shifting images of cancer patients, caregivers and advocates…

During ‘Kaleidoscope,’  famed Olympic skaters Scott Hamilton, Dorothy Hamill, Kristi Yamaguchi and Nancy Kerrigan will skate as cancer survivor Olivia Newton-John, music producer David Foster and ‘American Idol’  music artists David Archuleta and Katharine McPhee perform’ ¦..

http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2009/112009/11122009/506115

so many juicy articles today. ITA with sting, x-factor became a soap last week. simon and his producers might be regretting their tactics a little bit. the blacklash was unbelieveably considering,i am told, this as been going on for years now.

eonline just love their gossip. asking kris abt Adam’s break up like they live together or something. doubt kris even knows much abt that. they might be friends from the show but i don’t think they share secrets and break up stories. also eonline Adam likes them younger so someone in their 30s might be a little too old.

already commented on SYTYCD , Nigel was way OTT last night. unrestrained and it was just hard watch all that bashing.

The line up for AMA is ridic. wonder why all these big names want this gig. cld be becos it’s the last major gig for the year or something. I knew Janet wld open. can’t wait to watch. hope Adam can hold his own. also Nov 23rd is like death match. stiff stiff competition. I don’t know.
EW scoring Kris a B- ,. slezak wld have graded it higher.

I don’t know if this was posted, but I just saw it. There is a reason Adam had to be at the TV Guide Magazine’s Hot List Party. See article below with headline:

Adam Lambert And Selena Gomez Honored At TV Guide Magazine’s Hot List Party

http://neonlimelight.com/2009/11/11/adam-lambert-and-selena-gomez-honored-at-tv-guide-magazines-hot-list-party/

The Spin review for Adam was awesome

That’s the one that is the most impressive to me. No one can say Spin is one of Adam’s fanboys, and they are in direct competition to RS. Sadly I just can’t trust the other ones too much anymore because they are way too invested. I was pretty shocked that Spin liked such a poppy album.

The EW article on Kris’ review was weird- she gave it a B- but the review sounded more like a C-. It was almost ( almost) as backhanded as Jim C usually gives Adam.

I don’t know if this was posted, but I just saw it. There is a reason Adam had to be at the TV Guide Magazine’s Hot List Party. See article below with headline:

Adam Lambert And Selena Gomez Honored At TV Guide Magazine’s Hot List Party

AND he looked hot. So excited for album!!!

Cook and Ms. Underwood. Awww.

I wish the media would stop asking Kris ANYTHING about Adam, dammit.

Well, to be fair, EOnline also asked Adam about Kris.

from ahn [all headline news] … still hoping this is confirmation that ”crush” by david a is going to be the one sung on ”glee’, and included on the second cd… if so, it may just be the catalyst needed to help push it over the 2 million download mark… more at the link…

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Second “Glee” Soundtrack Hits Stores In December
November 11, 2009 1:43 p.m. EST

Anthony Jones – Celebrity News Service Contributor

Los Angeles, CA (CNS) – “Glee: The Music, Volume 1,” the official soundtrack to the hit Fox show, just hit No.4 on the Billboard Albums Chart and sold over 100,000 copies in its first week. A second volume is already on the way…

… The first soundtrack featured music from early in the show’s season, including their smash cover of Journey’s “Don’t Stop Believin’,” Kanye West’s “Gold Digger,” and Kristin Chenoweth’s soaring cover of Heart’s “Alone.”

… The show’s second soundtrack features covers of artists like The Pretenders, John Lennon, and Kelly Clarkson. They also perform covers of the “Dreamgirls” number “And I Am Telling You I’m Not Going,” the Rolling Stones’ “You Can’t Always Get What You Want,” and even David Archuleta’s recent radio hit “Crush.”

Read more: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7016965721#ixzz0WfAlShUA

Why post the VFTW review? Unless of course you are a member there. They hate on the idols all season and really nothing they say is worth repeating. I can’t give them any respect whatsoever. Funnystone is a self confessed Adam hater so his review of Adam’s and Kris’s albums are predictable.

Good point, universal.

This is my favorite part:

Lambert still has to complete the video for his first single. “It’s going to be pretty sexy,” he said. “Get ready.”

Just how sexy?

“I’ll be dressed,” Lambert said, “but there will probably be some people that are pretty sexy’”yeah!”

Wonder if model from Details will be in the video.

Wow, they didn’t hate it! Two thumbs up for VFTW. Wait till they get to FYE. *shuddering*

I bet they will say Adam is trying to hard.

Ok Question on Billboard: how do they determine Ranking. Kris is #92 which I am happy for him but Adam sold 18 k to Kris 14 K this week. Now if Radio is used to determine ranking then how did TFM get to number 50 its first week out with virtually no airplay at all. (maybe 2 spins). Please can someone explain. I would think the FYE would have at lease been in the top 100 with 18K. Thank you.

Um, yeah…after clicking on that link, I don’t think Adam or Selena Gomez were actually being honored for anything. It’s just the way the website wrote about what projects they are working on.

dhunken, they use a formula that includes both spins and sales. I’m not sure exactly how it works out.

My question is, what is the point of Billboard? I thought it was used to determine Top40, but Q3 kindly corrected me on that. Is there some other purpose?

Aw, those were some great David Cook interviews… I enjoyed them.

He did everything short of gluing the furniture on the ceiling. I just walked in and was like, ‘Damn.’

Hee. Nothing quite like a frustrated terrier to make a mess… I bet it was impressive .

If David can make it happen, he also plans on keeping all the band members the same for the next CD.

That would be excellent if they can all stay together, including Monty who I just love. He is the cutest thing with the best smile.

DHunken

Billboard is a combination of sales + airplay. TFM’s 50,000 in sales were enough to chart despite limited airplay. FYE’s 18,000 in sales were not enough to overcome limited airplay

LLWD got back on the chart because of its combination of regular airplay plus the sales jumping by 40%. LLWD got approximately 2000 more spins than FYE during the last charting period — that’s why it is ranked higher on the Billboard chart than FYE even though FYE sold more units.

Vote for the Worst:

Overall, most of the songs are decent, with a few real standouts that deserve your attention. And knowing how the Idol machine cranks these albums out so quickly, a decent album with a few standout tracks is something you should look into.

Never thought I’d agree with anything they said. But this … definitely. And, for my taste, anyway, I feel as if I’m getting this from both Kris’s and Adam’s albums this year, so I’m quite happy. … Is it too much to hope that Alison’s will be the same? Well, here’s hoping anyway. For me, things are looking up in Idol-land this year, actually, despite the slow sales numbers to start off.

re billboard LLWYD has been out a lot longer than FYE and the numbers are bound to shift and change once Adam’s promo and Ama performance comes into play. Also Adam is gaining ground in top 40 play.

VFTW is designed to snark on the Idols and has nothing to do with actual music journalism or criticism. So I don’t take anything they say with much seriousness. I suppose It’s nice that they gave Kris’ album a decent write-up, but it’s really not worth any more than if I wrote a review myself and posted in on the web.

Celebrity Sightings LA yesterday:

http://bit.ly/39LmdL

http://bit.ly/2mbIrx

It’s David Archuleta & @kinagrannis….

Wow, they didn’t hate it! Two thumbs up for VFTW. Wait till they get to FYE. *shuddering*

I bet they will say Adam is trying to hard.

They will crucify Adam whether they like the music or not. Not going to waste my time reading anything from them about Adam.

mgk
11/12/2009 at 11:29 am

dhunken, they use a formula that includes both spins and sales. I’m not sure exactly how it works out.

girlygirl
11/12/2009 at 11:29 am

DHunken

Billboard is a combination of sales + airplay. TFM’s 50,000 in sales were enough to chart despite limited airplay. FYE’s 18,000 in sales were not enough to overcome limited airplay

LLWD got back on the chart because of its combination of regular airplay plus the sales jumping by 40%. LLWD got approximately 2000 more spins than FYE during the last charting period ‘” that’s why it is ranked higher on the Billboard chart than FYE even though FYE sold more units.

Thanks Girlygirl and MgK….It explains it…Can’t say I fully understand the formula of it but now I know it is a combo of both. I thought this, but TFM not getting any spins and still ranking 50 kind of threw me off. But thank you both for explaining the process used.

Vote for the Worst’s review of Kris’s album is like amazingly awesome coming from them. I have a feeling even if Adam put out the best album of the century they would still hate it. Why do they hate him so much??

from Billboard…rankings for ”christmas from the heart” on the 200 and holiday charts’ ¦’ ¦.. looking pretty good…

Billboard 200 Album Chart – Week of November 21, 2009

#76. David Archuleta Christmas From The Heart

Last week’s position ‘“ #77
Weeks on chart ‘“ 4
Peak ‘“ #30

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Billboard Holiday Album’s Chart

Week of November 21, 2009

#9. David Archuleta Christmas From The Heart

Last week’s position ‘“ #5
Weeks on chart ‘“ 4
Peak ‘“ #2

http://www.billboard.com/column/chartbeat/chart-beat-wednesday-boyz-ii-men-whitney-1004032849.story#/charts/holiday-albums

LLWD got approximately 2000 more spins than FYE during the last charting period ‘” that’s why it is ranked higher on the Billboard chart than FYE even though FYE sold more units.

Just a small number-nerdy nit-pick, but the airplay portion of the Hot 100 formula is calculated based on total Audience Impressions (AI) across all formats, not spincount. Only the airplay-only format charts (Top 40, Adult Top 40, Adult Contemporary, Country etc.) use spins to determine the ranking. The airplay portion of the Hot 100 is all AI. That’s why it’s helpful to have large-market stations like KIIS, Z100, and WPLJ support a single – it racks up nice juicy AI even in the early days when not as many stations are spinning it. Z100′s early support of LLWD is definitely helping push it back up into the Hot100 even though sales volume is still building.

How is Adam doing on spins?

They will crucify Adam whether they like the music or not. Not going to waste my time reading anything from them about Adam.

The review has probably been written already; he’s just waiting to unlease it. He should probably rename his site the “myirrationalhatingonadamlambertblog” by the unfunnystone.

Adam Lambert And Selena Gomez Honored At TV Guide Magazine’s Hot List Party

http://neonlimelight.com/2009/11/11/adam-lambert-and-selena-gomez-honored-at-tv-guide-magazines-hot-list-party/

Was Kris going to be honored for something? Was he just invited to support Adam being honored? No wonder he didn’t go. There is going to be an article and pictures covering this event in the mid-November issue of TV Guide.

Readon: Adam had 80 spins on Monday and 87 yesterday. Not bad.

At least they fixed the eonline article, yesterday it said Adam still had to work on the ‘Time for Miracles’ music video, which was going to be ‘sexy’, lol..

heartbeatradio [the heartbeat cafe] from dublin, ireland is having another ”david archuleta day”, going on now, where for 3 hours they will be playing all his music – from before idol through ”christmas from the heart”… they’ve been staunch supporters of his music, and it’s good hearing such a variety of his music on the radio…

listen here….

http://www.heartbeatfm.biz/listenlive.htm

Note to David Cook, if you want to take your dog on the road, and leave him in the motel room while you go sing, you can use a crate, after the dog gets used to the crate, they love them and cant destroy anything, and you can have you puppy with you.

Less than 24 hours after Susan Boyle performed on Dancing With the Stars, the soundstage was still buzzing with excitement over the 48-year-old Scottish singing sensation’s impeccable vocals on the Les Miserables classic ‘I Dreamed a Dream.’ 

SuBo is to impeccable vocals, as Cloris Leachman was to impeccable dancing. Well okay, not that bad, but she was never ALL that great vocally, not as taken outside her story. And she’s typically shakey vocally when performing live.

Sorry, SuBo bugs. Just like Taylor Swift winning for Female Vocalist of the year for the CMAs when she can’t carry a tune, well not in tune she can’t.

And as much as I love MyAdam, I’m glad to read all the Cookie stuff today. Nice to have some variety.

Vote for the Worst’s review of Kris’s album is like amazingly awesome coming from them. I have a feeling even if Adam put out the best album of the century they would still hate it. Why do they hate him so much??

Adam could win 10 grammys, sell 10 million albums, receive raves from music critics, and have the album of the decade and VFTW would say it was horrible, crap, he sounds terrible, etc. etc. and that the only reason he is successful is because a handful of 55 year old, overweight housewives cashed in their 401Ks to purchase thousand and thousands of albums and pay off the critics and grammy committee….I don’t know why they hate him (alhough I have some theories), but they REALLY REALLY HATE him….its really OTT disgusting…just stay away from there

Tiger92

Again, I don’t think Adam (or Selena Gomez) was honored for anything at that TV Guide party. That is just a phrase this particular website used in its story. If he got some sort of honor, why didn’t the Fox News broadcast say that, or interview him, when they did their live report from the party? Or why didn’t any of the other articles about the party say this?

In my opinion, Adam (and Selena Gomez, for that matter) was simply invited to this party — he wasn’t getting some sort of award or honor.

Just like Taylor Swift winning for Female Vocalist of the year for the CMAs when she can’t carry a tune, well not in tune she can’t.

Since I’m not a country music fan, I’ve never bothered to listen to Taylor until a few min ago. Unbelievable she is winning so many awards these days. I’ve heard better country singers from AI who never made it to the top 36. She’s the Miley of country music.

they love them and cant destroy anything, and you can have you puppy with you.

Well, sometimes… my sister’s dog has such severe separation anxiety that she would hurt herself in a crate. He’s probably a lot happier hanging out with Andrew, life on the road has to be pretty stressful, especially for terriers who aren’t the most patient sorts (I have one, heh). A lazy Bulldog might have been a better choice for traveling buddy!

OK, I’ll stop, I do doggie rescue transport as my unpaid way too much time volunteer work. Hee.

Adam is artist of the month at AOL’s kids site.

http://kids.aol.com/KOL/2/Music/article/adam-lambert

You can listen to FYE on this page! I’m sorry, but this is hilarious!

Unbelievable she is winning so many awards these days. I’ve heard better country singers from AI who never made it to the top 36.

I’m bugged by a vocalist award since she’s not much of one but with the numbers of albums that girl has sold… she ought to be winning awards right now. I personally love her, vocal issues and all, I think she’s sweet and smart and her songwriting is great, both age appropriate but relevant outside of teenagers, too.

And someone said that it is too bad Jennifer Nettles w/Sugarland can’t get a female vocalist award… YES, I agree 100%. She is amazing, if you’ve never seen her perform “Stay” — go find it and watch it.

Um, yeah’ ¦after clicking on that link, I don’t think Adam or Selena Gomez were actually being honored for anything. It’s just the way the website wrote about what projects they are working on.

“A ‘hot list’  wouldn’t be complete without Adam Lambert. His sense of style and fashion are downright sizzling, and lets not forget about his smokin’ music. He came in second on American Idol season 8, yet many fans are anticipating his debut album more than the actual winner (sorry, Kris Allen!).
Adam stepped out last night in Los Angeles for TV Guide Magazine’s Hot List Party at SLS Hotel to celebrate being honored for his hotly anticipated album, For Your Entertainment, which will warm store shelves on November 23.”
source: http://neonlimelight.com/2009/11/11/adam-lambert-and-selena-gomez-honored-at-tv-guide-magazines-hot-list-party/

I think this week’s TV Guide print editon is a special Hot List Edition. I saw somewhere else where Courtney Cox would be on the cover; she’s on the hot list as a “Hot Mama” or something similar.

Danny Gokey, Lady Antebellum talk ‘It’s Only’

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/idolchatter/index

Taylor Swift won over Carrie Underwood? Gag me. Let’s see who has staying power. Taylor is the “It” Girl. We’ll see how she’s doing in a year. Still hate Kanye for doing that to hear the VMAs, however. No class=Kanye.

VFTW disgusts me. Sorry, but if they dislike Idol that much, they should go turn on another reality show; there are about 20 others. lol on the Adam to-be-titled review. Also:

OnlyCougarsandGayMenLikeAdamLambert

SuBo? Srsly? Sadness.

And if Adam and Selena were just given a title for being at the TV Guide party, no issues (ha ha) with me. It’s going to be in the magazine, and so it’s more publicity for Adam (plus he looked HOT, and that’s always a plus).

This is my favorite part:

Lambert still has to complete the video for his first single. ‘It’s going to be pretty sexy,’  he said. ‘Get ready.’ 

Just how sexy?

‘I’ll be dressed,’  Lambert said, ‘but there will probably be some people that are pretty sexy’”yeah!’ 

Wonder if model from Details will be in the video.

where is that quote from sue?

I did think it was weird that Cook didn’t (appear to) have Dubs in a crate when he went all Doggy Rock Star in Cook’s hotel room. Cook has said before that Dubs sleeps in a crate when they were on the tour bus (because he chewed up Cook’s iPhone one night), so it was weird that Dubs apparently was out and about in the hotel room. Perhaps he escaped or some hotel maid let him out?

ETA: I just thought about Cook having to explain the mess to the hotel manager. “Really! It wasn’t me — my dog did it!” “Uh-huh. Sure, Mr. Cook. Your dog did it. Did he eat your homework too?”

Adam is artist of the month at AOL’s kids site.

You can listen to FYE on this page! I’m sorry, but this is hilarious!

lol

Where’s his album cover and Details Magazine pics? I do love me some TfM, however.

In my opinion, Adam (and Selena Gomez, for that matter) was simply invited to this party ‘” he wasn’t getting some sort of award or honor.

I guess we’ll see when the article and pictures come out in TV Guide. Either way, Selena looked pretty and Adam looked hot and they will get some press out of it. Did you see the tweets from that night? (Many people were excited to meet Adam AND were impressed.) It never hurts to expand “who you know”! Oh, and look fabulous while doing it! haha

Ok well being on a “hot list” along with dozens of other people in an issue of TV Guide doesn’t equate to a real honor or award in my mind. Probably most of the people who were invited to the party are on this list so received the same “honor”. But whatever…I’m just in a grumpy snarky mood today…it’s still more good publicity for Adam, and that’s never a bad thing

where is that quote from sue?

E-Online article. Link above. It’s at the end of the article.

I made up the line about the model from Details Magazine.

Kris decided to go to the Mat Kearney concert instead of the TV Guide Party. He had already had a full day of celebs.

Adam could win 10 grammys, sell 10 million albums, receive raves from music critics, and have the album of the decade and VFTW would say it was horrible, crap, he sounds terrible, etc. etc. and that the only reason he is successful is because a handful of 55 year old, overweight housewives cashed in their 401Ks to purchase thousand and thousands of albums and pay off the critics and grammy committee’ ¦.I don’t know why they hate him (alhough I have some theories), but they REALLY REALLY HATE him’ ¦.its really OTT disgusting’ ¦just stay away from there

actually no… what they would do then is try to take credit for his success much lik they’ve done with Carrie Underwood. VFTW are nothing if not completely a total followers. IF Adam is hugely successful they will slobber all over theselves saying they knew it way back when and that they were merely “snarking” on him with all the hate.

They are a bunch of pathetic losers over there.

And LOL at Adam being artist of the month at AOL Kids site. That’s like “aww, cute” and “WTF” rolled into one.

exclusive photos!

The Hot List Party! TV’s sizzlin’ stars turned out to help TV Guide Magazine celebrate the hottest Hot List issue ever! Check out our gallery of partiers from Courtney Cox to Adam Lambert!
SEE THE PICS!

From TV Guide Magazine email.

lol, girlygirl

edit: YOU ARE SO F*CKING BANNED

You can listen to FYE on this page! I’m sorry, but this is hilarious!

Ruh Roh! I predict AOL Kids is going to be getting some angry e-mails from a few pearl clutchers. lulz.

I did think it was weird that Cook didn’t (appear to) have Dubs in a crate when he went all Doggy Rock Star in Cook’s hotel room.

Well, my little 30 lb. terrier mix destroyed and escaped from his first crate, maybe Dubs is just as smart and determined. We gave up on using a crate after about a month because his separation anxiety was worse in it than out of it. Hopefully Dublin will have matured and calmed down enough by the next tour to survive life on the road. Walking 3 or 4 miles a day keeps my dog pretty mellow.

tiger92:

It’s funny when you play FYE on that kids site and here’s this song about ( what I think is) rough sex. ANd then that damn picture that looks like a high school senior picture against the kiddie art background- lulz!

As for the review for Adam from the worsters:

You can bet money it will have the following words:

Sparkle Cows
Frau
Madam
Fat
Blake Lewis

They have become so predictable it’s no wonder there are only about 10 regular posters left there. For Christ’s sakes they stan people like Alex Trugman and Amanda Overmeyer because they give them the time of day- how patheitc is THAT?

and ewww at Taylor Swift beating Carrie for best vocalist. I like her personality and songs a little better but Carrie’s vocals are untouchable IMHO…
I think VFTW is funny sometimes like when they recap the show, but their hate for Adam is just lame and not funny. It’s also fun to hate on Danny, but they went waayyyy OTT.

Ok Question on Billboard: how do they determine Ranking. Kris is #92 which I am happy for him but Adam sold 18 k to Kris 14 K this week. Now if Radio is used to determine ranking then how did TFM get to number 50 its first week out with virtually no airplay at all. (maybe 2 spins). Please can someone explain. I would think the FYE would have at lease been in the top 100 with 18K.

The Hot 100 is intended to be a measure of popular singles and blends three charts. The formula has changed over the years. The current formula is:

55% Airplay
40% Sales
5% Streaming

The Sales counted are from Sunday to Sunday. The Airplay counted is from Wednesday to Wednesday. Because all spins aren’t created equal (spins on bigger stations at better times get more listeners), the Audience Impression is used. For general explanation purposes, 1 million AI is used as a unit and thousands of sales are used as a unit (we don’t have the streaming numbers, so we’ll just ignore those).

LLWD has an AI of over 10 million and sales of just under 15K . FYE had sales of 18K and I don’t know it’s AI (let’s guess 2 million).

LLWD=(10*.55)+(15*.40)=11.5
FYE= (2*.55)+(18*.40)=8.3

So, you can see that those spins really add up on the Hot 100. LLWD’s spins are worth about extra 13,750 in sales.

Meanwhile, back when TFE sold 50K and had virtually no airplay, TfM= 50*.4 = 20. It easily charted.

Danny Gokey, Lady Antebellum talk ‘It’s Only’

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/idolchatter/index

I think that this is a nice article, and I am glad Chris and Dave think that Danny is a good singer and did their song justice. I am glad that they are supportive of him. I also think that it’s interesting that Danny’s album is almost finished. I wonder what other songwriters are on his album

Ruh Roh! I predict AOL Kids is going to be getting some angry e-mails from a few pearl clutchers. lulz.

haha Or the kids will be bopping to it and singing EVERY word. Years ago, my 5 yr old nephew’s favorite song was “MY Humps”. (His Dad is a preacher.)

Kris decided to go to the Mat Kearney concert instead of the TV Guide Party. He had already had a full day of celebs.

Or Kris decided it would be weird to attend and honor Adam for “Hotly Anticipated Album”. His PR people may have also recommended a “no-show”.

I’m glad he got to have a relaxing night.

It’s funny when you play FYE on that kids site and here’s this song about ( what I think is) rough sex. ANd then that damn picture that looks like a high school senior picture against the kiddie art background- lulz!

They must subscribe to the metaphorical, as opposed to the literal, translation. lol.

Plus, you need to add Clay Aiken and Taylor Hicks to your list of “already pencilled-in” words.

In my opinion, Adam (and Selena Gomez, for that matter) was simply invited to this party ‘” he wasn’t getting some sort of award or honor.

I guess we’ll see when the article and pictures come out in TV Guide. Either way, Selena looked pretty and Adam looked hot and they will get some press out of it. Did you see the tweets from that night? (Many people were excited to meet Adam AND were impressed.) It never hurts to expand ‘who you know’ ! Oh, and look fabulous while doing it! haha

There was only one most anticipated album, so that is an honor.

In one of his interviews at the TV Guide party, they asked Adam about hearing his song at the 2012 premiere. He said the audience was really supportive, and after the movie he met many people involved with the movie, including the actors. I’m dying to know how the meeting with him and Amanda Peet went, as well as John Cusack. In an interview, Amanda said, “I love him. I love him,” and she said wanted to accost him when she passed him at the red carpet. At the other spectrum, John Cusack didn’t know who Adam was.

Plus, you need to add Clay Aiken and Taylor Hicks to your list of ‘already pencilled-in’  words.

HAHA Laurel- I did actually have them there originally.

haha Or the kids will be bopping to it and singing EVERY word. Years ago, my 5 yr old nephew’s favorite song was ‘MY Humps’ . (His Dad is a preacher.)

Hee. Maybe FYE will be on the next Kidzbop. Something to look forward to.

The Sales counted are from Sunday to Sunday.

So, the Friday and Saturday sales of FYE on AO weren’t counted? Where is that number? Is it lost in cyberspace?

Oh and ack, I hate that anyone gives VFTW any kind of credit for being anything other than a circle jerk of people who are even more pathetic than the ones they are meanly making fun of, so it was disheartening to read the article above about X-Factor recommending the tactic of voting for the worst, and a link to the website, and a nicely santized version of who they are. Well I guess saying their a circle jerk of pathetic basement dwellers who lamer than the lame people they cruelly make fun of, wouldn’t be the best way to sell the idea.

That being said, I do agree that this year’s contestants are all very weak. Worst year I’ve seen thus far, though granted I have only watched a few seasons. And getting rid of Lucie was really stupid as she was a good singer and could be relevant.

AOL Kids,lol. Kids listening to FYE blissfully ignorant reminds me of dancing around to She Bop with no idea what is was about!

His PR people may have also recommended a ‘no-show’ .

This is something fans don’t seem to realize sometimes because they are so excited to see their favorite at an event somewhere. All of these people (Kris, Adam, Allison, etc.) have PR people who are aware of their invites but might have advised against them being at a specific even for a variety of reason.

So, the Friday and Saturday sales of FYE on AO weren’t counted? Where is that number? Is it lost in cyberspace?

I would think this would have counted towards the previous week, but there was no way FYE had a chance of charting in the Top 100 then.

Elliott has had a single that was in the top 5 for the year in 2007 on every chart and by every measure going

Just heard “Wait for You” on the radio yesterday – that song was absolutely huge for him and amazing to come the indie route. Can’t take anything away from what Elliott accomplished, for sure. I fricking love him, I think his new album is great and wish it could get some radio traction.

The Sales counted are from Sunday to Sunday.

So, the Friday and Saturday sales of FYE on AO weren’t counted? Where is that number? Is it lost in cyberspace?

There were actually three days that weren’t counted, and the free single download from the album weren’t counted at all.

and the free single download from the album weren’t counted at all.

That’s because it is an Album sale.

Pay for the entire album when you pre-orderand get the debut single=album sale

Pay 99 cent deposit for a pre-order of an album and get the debut single= single sale this week, album sale when it is released (and one single sale is deducted from that weeK0

Adam was honored by TV Guide Magazine and will be in their “Hot List” issue on sale starting today. He was named in the “Hotly Anticipated” category for his album. Is it an industry honor?? No..it’s one magazine’s opinion. Kind of like People’s Sexiest honor.

edit: knock off the sniping

The link to see all the honorees is here: http://www.tvguidemagazine.com/photos/tv-guide-magazines-2009-hot-list-128.html

BeckyMD
11/12/2009 at 11:25 am
Wow, they didn’t hate it! Two thumbs up for VFTW. Wait till they get to FYE. *shuddering*

Doesn’t anyone find it the least bit ironic that people are happy about a positive review from a site that celebrates the Worst?? So, did it get a good review because it fits their criteria and main purpose? Confoozled.

BestAI

I would think that the sales from AO on Friday and Saturday would have been counted in the PREVIOUS week. And those wouldn’t have been enough to allow FYE to chart. It is similar to what happened with LLWD when it was released on Friday. That’s a big reason why most songs are released early in the week, rather than on Friday.

from the Wall Street Journal
Adam Lambert on His New Album ‘For Your Entertainment,’  Working with Lady Gaga, and His Appeal to Women

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2009/11/1….ppeal-to-women/

Which song pushed you the furthest vocally?

‘Sure Fire Winners’  is pretty vocally acrobatic. It’s crazy ‘” but they all kind of go crazy. Artistically, I think the Linda Perry song was a departure for me because it was a little out of my obvious comfort zone ‘” vocally, it sits in this falsetto space, and lyrically, if you really listen to it, it’s complicated. The lyrics contradict themselves, which was done on purpose ‘” Linda and I really talked about it.

There are two different interpretations: one is that it’s about two members of a relationship, and what’s going on in their heads when they’re with each other. One partner is loving every moment and in bliss, while the other person is feeling empty and not satistfied. The other way to look at it is that it’s about one person, going back and forth about a relationship in their head. Like one day, we feel like we love this person to death, the next, what the hell. It’s emotionally complicated, which makes it special.

Speaking of ‘Sure Fire Winners,’  it sounds like an homage to ‘We are the Champions.’  Is it?

It wasn’t intentional, and I didn’t write that song. But yeah, that’s totally the vibe. I don’t know if the writers did that on purpose or not. But it is like a ‘we rock’  kind of anthem.

How closely do you follow the forums on your site and read what people tweet at you?

I breeze through Twitter ‘” I look at the mentions, the pictures, the videos. But I try not to get too wrapped up in message boards because it’s crazy. When the fans are supportive, that’s super positive. On the flip side, when message boards are filled with negativity, I find it sad that people have nothing better to do than hate on others online. It’s not a good vibe.

RCA obviously knows the numbers from AO. If it was a large amount I don’t know why they wouldn’t have reported to SoundScan. Couldnt even two days of sales Friday/Saturday have counted for last weeks sales chart?

So cool to come on here and see so many articles about David Cook! And with actual interesting information!

Oh – I went to the concert last night!! The band has gotten so much better, so much tighter since I saw them in Feb., and August. They are all incredible and simply amazing together. I was so focused on just “experiencing” this last Declaration tour concert that I’ll see live, that I took no pix or vids. just wanted to be in the moment. Lastly (but not leastly -tm DC) Cook’s voice seemed a tiny hoarse (maybe the hanging with friends, and birthday partying) but still wonderful. I was so focused other things that I honestly did not get distracted by hair or tattoos at all.

One more thing. The Script does an amazing live performance. I didn’t warm up to their recorded music, but was quite impressed by their live energy.

http://www.ainow.org/index.php/tidbits/1335-ellen-talks-qidolq-with-oprah

Ellen talks to Oprah about a number of things, including Idol and Adam. It’s a really nice interview.

Cannot find Adam on the TV Guide Magazine hot list pics.

tiger92: The Sales counted are from Sunday to Sunday.

So, the Friday and Saturday sales of FYE on AO weren’t counted? Where is that number? Is it lost in cyberspace?

Ha. You might want to check the Idol Sales News thread from yesterday. I think this horse was mercilessly beaten into unconsciousness over there.

Bottom line: we have a lot of opinions and informed guesses but no one has a definitive answer.

That’s because it is an Album sale.

Pay for the entire album when you pre-orderand get the debut single=album sale

Pay 99 cent deposit for a pre-order of an album and get the debut single= single sale this week, album sale when it is released (and one single sale is deducted from that weeK

Kirsten, that is such valuable information. Put well and succinctly. IMHO, if that kind of knowledge was included with every sales post throughout AI-dom, when this sort of thing happens, discussion would be so enhanced. Because, even though many people were trying to convey this about the FYE Collector’s Edition, yesterday, not everyone was listening. When Kris’s season pass was offered, again, confusion reigned. And it’s still unclear to many when pre-orders boost single sales.

wellhesback, I noticed that the band is much tighter, too. I went to a show early in the spring and then a couple last month (was it last month?) and the difference was amazing.

VAlilac

That link didn’t work for me

She Bop with no idea what is was about!

I still don’t know

Cannot find Adam on the TV Guide Magazine hot list pics.

Sorry SueBrody. I thought I linked the video from the TV Guide Hot List. The only people that are on the photo link are those that got separate photoshoots for their inclusion on the list.

Here’s the video:

http://tvguidemagazine.com/videos/tv-guide-magazine-hot-list-2009-(dnj6du6vao).html

Adam is at around 1:04. It’s just his pic and a pic of the album with the honor title.

Excellent, excellent article in Wall St Journ:

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2009/11/12/adam-lambert-on-his-new-album-for-your-entertainment-working-with-lady-gaga-and-his-appeal-to-women/

Adam talks about his disappointment at the song leaks, the different meanings of “Sure Fire Winners”, and Simon Cowell’s current non-role.

edit: I believe this is the 3rd WSJ article on Adam. They have been quite supportive, esp. with the album cover.

girlygirl
11/12/2009 at 1:04 pm
VAlilac

That link didn’t work for me

See if this one works:

http://tinyurl.com/ykszqg7

Maybe FYE will be on the next Kidzbop

Ha…I wanna hear a 9 year old sing about getting rough with me and making me want to scream….lol

Just how sexy?

‘I’ll be dressed,’  Lambert said,

WTH with this!

J/K (taken from the quote about the upcoming sexy mv for FYE).

Janus

Thanks – the link worked! That’s a really good interview with Adam.

Regarding the Billboard Hot 100:

The Sales counted are from Sunday to Sunday. The Airplay counted is from Wednesday to Wednesday. Because all spins aren’t created equal (spins on bigger stations at better times get more listeners), the Audience Impression is used. For general explanation purposes, 1 million AI is used as a unit and thousands of sales are used as a unit (we don’t have the streaming numbers, so we’ll just ignore those).

This is not quite correct —
Sales – Monday through Sunday [sales from Target are reported Sunday through Saturday and adjusted]. Source is Neilsen SoundScan reports.

Airplay – Wednesday through Tuesday

Chart rankings are based on radio play and sales; the tracking-week for sales begins on Monday and ends on Sunday; while the radio play tracking-week runs from Wednesday to Tuesday. A new chart is compiled and officially released to the public by Billboard on Thursday. Each chart is dated with the “week-ending” date of the Saturday two weeks after. Example:

So for last week —

Monday, 11/2/09 ‘“ sales tracking-week begins
Wednesday, 11/4/09 ‘“ airplay tracking-week begins
Sunday, 11/8/09 ‘“ sales tracking-week ends
Tuesday, 11/10/09 ‘“ airplay tracking-week ends
Thursday, 11/12/09 ‘“ chart released dated week of 11/21/09

The Billboard Hot 100 is referred to as “the United States music industry standard singles popularity chart” but it is a lagging report and they are now getting ready to make another major chage to refect the increased importance of online airplay and streaming media. Hopefully they will get a better measure of popularity and do something to improve it’s currancy — which is out-of-step in the world of realtime online data from retailer charts, boradcast airplay and streaming media popularity.

One big gap is the small weight given to online play. In August 11, 2007, Billboard began incorporating weekly data from Streaming media and On-demand services into the Hot 100. But coverage is very limited and AOL and Yahoo streaming airplay are overrepresented.

Finally regarding sales of FYE — since this report is for sales from 11/2 thru 11/8, the sales that occurred on 10/30 thru 11/1 are not in these numbers. As far as I can tell, the first three days of FYE sales were pre-release and do not count towards Billboard rankings, but will be counted by the RIAA. Also, the free bonus download of FYE with the CE purchase is not counted as a sale. Based on the leaks and fan reports, I believe that most of what sold on AO.com was the CE.

Portia is gorgeous! She and Ellen look so happy together.

And Adam I so agree with you.

When the fans are supportive, that’s super positive. On the flip side, when message boards are filled with negativity, I find it sad that people have nothing better to do than hate on others online. It’s not a good vibe.

You can not like something/or someone without all the nastiness.

I was wondering about that too. Am I missing something? It’s great to get raving reviews but from a site called Vote for the Worst? Yikes!

Kris fans will take good news and positive reviews from any source.

Kris Drizzle! (prepare for a blustery week…you were warned)

ROFL about “Kris Drizzle”…

Kris fans will take good news and positive reviews from any source.

Kris Drizzle! (prepare for a blustery week’ ¦you were warned)

So far the reviews have been good.

ETA: Just got the Kris Drizzle reference.

Kirsten
11/12/2009 at 1:20 pm

Kris Drizzle! (prepare for a blustery week’ ¦you were warned)

Hee Hee. It’s about darn time.

girlygirl
11/12/2009 at 1:17 pm
Janus

Thanks ‘“ the link worked! That’s a really good interview with Adam.

You’re welcome!

This quote from the article cracked me up:

“What do you think your appeal to women is?

‘I’m not sure ‘” to be honest, that’s one of the more surprising elements about this whole thing. I’m like, really? I honestly don’t know ‘” maybe it’s because, whatever the sexuality thing, I’m a friendly person, and maybe there’s a safety thing involved, in that I’m not threatening.’”

Yes, Adam it’s because you’re friendly!
Poor guy really has no idea LOL!

Kris Drizzle! (prepare for a blustery week’ ¦you were warned)

Hee Hee. It’s about darn time.

I second

“It’s great to get raving reviews but from a site called Vote for the Worst? Yikes!”

Oh, I see so you’re implying that this equates to Kris’s album being one of the “worst”? :/

It’s an OK thing to get a review from them that isn’t scathing because they by definition hate everything AI– however, they were able to see that his album is better than traditional AI first runs and see that Kris has some “real world” appeal. They certainly didn’t have to be so objective given that he is the winner of AI 8.

Ha. You might want to check the Idol Sales News thread from yesterday. I think this horse was mercilessly beaten into unconsciousness over there.

Bottom line: we have a lot of opinions and informed guesses but no one has a definitive answer.

Yes, I did. However I didnt know until late last night that the FYE single was offered for $1.29 on AO on Friday and Saturday. I’m sure internet and twitter fans went there and bought it immmediately. Just like they did with TFM and it flew up to the top 10. Those numbers WERE NOT REPORTED or we would have had a “last weeks” and “this weeks” numbers.
(Go look-those two numbers are exactly the same.)

It’s not a guess or opinion-those numbers from Friday and Saturday are not there. You can’t count sales from one week into the next. (or they would have done it with those first three days of LLWD)

Kris fans will take good news and positive reviews from any source.

Kris Drizzle! (prepare for a blustery week’ ¦you were warned)

That doesn’t seem really fair. Yes, Kris has a lot of competition next week with debuts, but so does Adam the following week. I actually think that Allison has the best week because despite missing Black Friday for her release she doesn’t have nearly as many stiff competitors out there.

I don’t expect Kris to have the number one release – or even necessarily be in the Top 5 for the week, but still.

I was wondering about that too. Am I missing something? It’s great to get raving reviews but from a site called Vote for the Worst? Yikes!

LOL!

I celebrate that VFTW never misses a chance to knock Adam [my fav] — but I never take these folks seriously.

I love music, and happen to love the “cheezey talent reality contest” that they work so hard to trash!

Finally, I don’t understand how anyone can do a real review of any album without the CD or a high-quality digital download. I wish that the reviewers would be clear that they are doing a preview. We don’t even know the title of at least one of Adam’s tracks [UK/Japan Bonus Track produced by Greg Wells] and even the longer clips of Adam’s songs are two pieces grafted together.

In my opinion, Adam (and Selena Gomez, for that matter) was simply invited to this party ‘” he wasn’t getting some sort of award or honor.

Selana was ‘hot wizard’ Adam was just hot.

My computer seems to be having problems. I keep seeing the same post over and over and over and over again. Is any one else having this problem?

Actually worsters are typically nice to their poster children (he was one for all of a week). Well they’re nice to some of them anyhow. He’s actually the first I think they’ve had who won, so it’s uncharted territory for them. Seems to me they’re still sorting out what they really think of Kris. I don’t think they are ever very objective. They’re still funny, but then I have a warped sense of humor. I’d be happy if my guy got a good review from them…it’s always better than a sucky one.

Wow. Watch for the deletions. They are coming.

http://www.ainow.org/index.php/tidbits/1335-ellen-talks-qidolq-with-oprah

Ellen talks to Oprah about a number of things, including Idol and Adam. It’s a really nice interview.

NVM. Not a bad interview, but she harps on Adam’s tongue when he sang on Idol, and they even post a picture of it. WTF? Ricky Minor said Adam said he was taught to sing that way, and at times he forgot. God, I hope she is not like that as a judge. Dude, your shirt was untucked…

YOU’RE BANNED. STOP POSTING

It’s not a guess or opinion-those numbers from Friday and Saturday are not there. You can’t count sales from one week into the next. (or they would have done it with those first three days of LLWD)

Three days are missing — Friday thru Sunday — but the sales numbers would not have been enough to make the song chart.

RCA seems to be interested in selling Albums — not singles — that is their usual strategy. Same for Cook and Daughtry. For example, Cook’s LO had a great first week but was only #17 [peak] on the Billboard Hot 100, but his album was amazing and hit #3. Daughtry’s “It’s No Over” peaked at #4 but the album was #1.

Not saying that Adam’s album has a shot at even the top 10, but RCA Records is in the business of selling albums and making money. And whatever happens with Adam’s singles, his album will outperform it. And that is a good thing, a very good thing.

Okay- I missed something from yesterday to today. Are we saying now that those first couple of days sales from AO were not counted in the first week FYE sales?

Janus-Yes, Adam it’s because you’re friendly!
Poor guy really has no idea LOL!

Janus, I LOL’d at this too! Yes Adam, It has nothing to with the fact that you are sex on legs, have a famous penis, and pretty as hell! Friendly! Haha!

Finally regarding sales of FYE ‘” since this report is for sales from 11/2 thru 11/8, the sales that occurred on 10/30 thru 11/1 are not in these numbers. As far as I can tell, the first three days of FYE sales were pre-release and do not count towards Billboard rankings, but will be counted by the RIAA. Also, the free bonus download of FYE with the CE purchase is not counted as a sale. Based on the leaks and fan reports, I believe that most of what sold on AO.com was the CE.

So the first Three Days of numbers aren’t known. Geez, at least LLWD had it’s first three days reported.
Where were you yesterday? You are like the numbers and data guru! I feel so much better now! Thanks!

Okay- I missed something from yesterday to today. Are we saying now that those first couple of days sales from AO were not counted in the first week FYE sales?

I think, Brian Mansfield pretty much confirmed it in Idol Chatter blog.

tiger92 Where did that quote come from?

Okay- I missed something from yesterday to today. Are we saying now that those first couple of days sales from AO were not counted in the first week FYE sales?

Nobody knows for sure either way. We know that Soundscan’s sales weeks run from Monday through Sunday. We also know that not all retailers report on this schedule (Target, for example, reports on Saturday). What we don’t know is when Sony reports. It is certainly as possible that they reported those three days of AO.com sales in with this past sales week as it is that they didn’t report them at all.

This is not quite correct ‘”
Sales ‘“ Monday through Sunday [sales from Target are reported Sunday through Saturday and adjusted]. Source is Neilsen SoundScan reports.

I was trying to keep it simple. But, yes, it is sales from Monday morning at 1 second after midnight to Sunday midnight and airplay from Wednesday morning at 1 second after midnight until midnight (I may be off by one second). Obviously, nobody is going to count Sunday sales or Wednesday spins twice.

they are now getting ready to make another major chage to refect the increased importance of online airplay and streaming media.

Billboard updates chart policies frequently. The BB200 chart policy will be changed for the week starting this Monday (recurrency rules revoked).

As far as I can tell, the first three days of FYE sales were pre-release and do not count towards Billboard rankings, but will be counted by the RIAA.

I don’t know about that. Isn’t the release date for the single October 31st or something? Sales before release dates are called street violations (I’ve never heard of the label being the one that caused the street violations, usually it is some clerk putting out the album early), but those sales are reported to SoundScan and sometimes (when the street violations are large enough), the item in question can chart on Billboard (happens very rarely. Used to sometimes happen with commercial singles since the market is so tiny).

Certainly, sales unreported to SoundScan can be used by the RIAA to certify. I wonder why 19 has never gotten some of those Idol show singles certified. I strongly suspect that Cook’s “Always Be My Baby” and “Billie Jean” must have gone at least gold. Archie’s “Imagine” too.

I think, Brian Mansfield pretty much confirmed it in Idol Chatter blog.

alaadam- do you got a link? Am I the only one who thinks this is a pretty big deal that the first two days of a new release went unreported? That would be a substantial amount, would it not?

DC’s latest tweet:

A random hint: I am the answer to number 6 for USA today’s Thursday edition of up & down words… I’ve officially made it.

Hes’ so cute. Didn’t he once say that if he ever saw himself as the answer to a crossword puzzle, it would completely freak him out?

And now I have to go and buy USA Today in addition to my Carrie CD, which I am planning to purchase simply for the word “Cookie”.

We don’t even know the title of at least one of Adam’s tracks

But at least we do know there’s a bonus track called Down the Rabbit Hole, and that somehow the great Robbie Williams has already made a music video for it:

http://www.robbiewilliams.com/video/official/you-know-me-music-video

It’s like they’re on the same wavelength or something…trippy.

*sigh*

I still don’t understand how this all works…

I do wonder when I look at Sound Scan how a song can be added but not played. Isn’t that a tad odd?

Also, how many spins does a song need to get to enter the Top 40? Is it based solely on spins?

Okay- I missed something from yesterday to today. Are we saying now that those first couple of days sales from AO were not counted in the first week FYE sales?

I think these numbers would count for Adam’s total sales of the single at the end, but they didn’t count for the Billboard 100 for the chart released today. At least that’s how I understand it.

NVM. Not a bad interview, but she harps on Adam’s tongue when he sang on Idol, and they even post a picture of it.

It was funny, but I know I won’t be watching Idol next season. I like Ellen, but only in small doses. i could not watch her on a regular bases.

Time for my weekly freakout re: WTF is going on with Allison? I was looking at the iTues charts a couple of hours ago, and while both FYE an LLWD have slid backwards a bit from the other day, they are both safely on the Top 100 (FYE is still in the Top 40). FIBOU, on the other hand, ISN’T EVEN IN THE TOP 700! And only a couple of radio stations have added it, even though it went for adds a couple of weeks ago. I know Jive supposedly has more promotion set for her in the next couple weeks, but this really isn’t looking good. Even when it was first released, it didn’t get as high on the charts as either Adam’s or Kris’ single — so if the most ardent Allison fans have already bought it but couldn’t push it all that high on iTunes on its initial release, I have my doubts that it is going to do really well even when the promotional push kicks in.

I’m probably being way too negative about this, but I really am worried that Jive/19 has screwed this up. Maybe the reviews for her album will be good enough to overcome this, but I can’t say I’m optimistic right now.

Doing the Happy Dance!
Adam is holding his own on i-Tunes. #3 on Pop albums and #20 on Pop singles.
# 36 on all singles.

tiger92
11/12/2009 at 1:39 pm
Where were you yesterday? You are like the numbers and data guru! I feel so much better now! Thanks!

LOL! No doubt Q3 was working her magic over on Planet Fierce yesterday. She’s my our Lois Lane supersleuth and crack newsletter publisher. *waves* Hi Q3!!

I agree that RCA is going for the album sales over the single, just judging by the adverts and promos all about the album release date. I still wish the single numbers were a little prettier. But hey, I didn’t contribute to them either – I bought the CE on AO myself.

LOL, MJ, was just waiting for you to swoop in and save the day . I don’t know how you do it but I’m glad you do. I am so addicted to this place.

Nobody knows for sure either way. We know that Soundscan’s sales weeks run from Monday through Sunday. We also know that not all retailers report on this schedule (Target, for example, reports on Saturday). What we don’t know is when Sony reports. It is certainly as possible that they reported those three days of AO.com sales in with this past sales week as it is that they didn’t report them at all.

I agree. I don’t see why Sony would suddenly change it’s policy about reporting sales to SoundScan (which they have done in the past). I don’t see how it would be in their best interest.

But fundamentally, we don’t know so stating either scenario to be the truth would be without foundation.

Am I the only one who thinks this is a pretty big deal that the first two days of a new release went unreported? That would be a substantial amount, would it not?

No, you’re not the only one! And yes, I figure hard-core fans ran immediately to AO and downloaded the single for $1.29.(just like they did with FYE on iTunes) It wasn’t being offered on Amazon or iTunes at the time.
It’s a big deal to me because it makes me feel better!

Doesn’t anyone find it the least bit ironic that people are happy about a positive review from a site that celebrates the Worst?? So, did it get a good review because it fits their criteria and main purpose? Confoozled.

That misses the politique of VFTW (one that, in truth, I’m not totally against). They’re not really celebrating the worst in some unqualified way; they’re very much a pocket of resistance to the Idol institution, and (somehow) believe that voting for inferior talent on said shows will make them the object of ridicule and cut them at the knees. It’s also just all in good fun, as they don’t take everything extremely seriously. However, its manifesto is very much against the Idol machine, so they also strangely represent and aide people who they think were unfairly shafted by 19E, as well as those they chose to win, even if they considered them the worst at the time. They had a nice interview with Felicia Barton, for example, and supported her music, which I thought was pretty cool.

In this case, I think this review really could have gone either way; Kris is in the unique position of being a winner, but not carrying the buzz of 19E (they could have just as easily bashed it as an idiotic 19E shaft product of mediocrity, though).

I think I’m the only one on this planet who have never heard Archie’s Crush or Elliot’s single.

PattyH
11/12/2009 at 1:48 pm
Doing the Happy Dance!
Adam is holding his own on i-Tunes. #3 on Pop albums and #20 on Pop singles.
# 36 on all singles.

YAY! Thanks for the update PattyH. I haven’t checked iTunes yet today. Much appreciated and makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

I’m confused as to why 19/RCA would have any reason NOT to report the first 3 days sales from the AO site to Soundscan. Exactly what good would it do for them not to report it? Even if those three days’ sales were lower than might be expected, it would still give Adam a higher sales total than if they weren’t reported at all.

So I don’t get why they wouldn’t be reported. Maybe they just weren’t made available to the media.

“How were we?” asketh Saint Carrie unto herself.

“We were awesome!” replied Carrie enthusiastically.

That is just Carrie’s great sense of humor, as displayed on Idol, showing through.

WTF is going on with Allison?

I think that Allison is going to get very little AI bump…i think she is a terrific talent and will have a long and successful career, but I don’t see her breaking out right out of the box….she does not have a huge AI fan base waiting to buy her singles and album and as of yet has had very little publicity…I happen to love FIBOU and bought it right after it went up on itunes, but am not interested in buying the whole album….I think we will be hearing more from her in a few years

Reminder:

For my money, the real negativity on my blog comes from the petty sniping and the negativity BETWEEN POSTERS.

Some of the stuff I read here really just…it just makes me want to pack it in.

And geez, when you see a post that you KNOW I’m going to moderate, could you ignore it please?

*not happy at the moment*

Okay- I missed something from yesterday to today. Are we saying now that those first couple of days sales from AO were not counted in the first week FYE sales?

I think we don’t know for sure about the first days on AO (based on the dates of the sales numbers), but at the very least, I think any singles that were received as part of the album pre-order on AO did not count.

No way that singles number from yesterday could be THAT way off the TFM number. That just doesn’t make sense imo.

Adam is holding his own on i-Tunes. #3 on Pop albums and #20 on Pop singles. # 36 on all singles.

And #18 on overall top albums.

ETA, and #10 in Amazon bestseller.

I know those are not stellar rankings, but I’m still happy.

Suebrody:

If you bookmark this link, you can see the published charts for a few different formats. This link is for Top 40 – you can see where Kris sits with his spins in this format, compared to everyone else, and how his spincreases and those around him look to get a general ideal. They seem to update this at least a couple of times a day.

If you swap out the number “1″ for “3″ in the address for this link, you’ll switch to HAC format. You’ll see Kris’ numbers there – he’s sitting on the top of the heap for his spin range, but it will be a few days before he moves up anymore based on the break right around #20-ish.

And if they take this visibility away from me like they did Quick Cuts, I’m really going to have a bad day. Dear @universe: Please don’t.

http://www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/insideradio/charts.asp?format=1&showyear=y&dpt=n

Allison just needs to be heard. Once her interview rounds start she’ll be fine.

No, you’re not the only one! And yes, I figure hard-core fans ran immediately to AO and downloaded the single for $1.29.(just like they did with FYE on iTunes) It wasn’t being offered on Amazon or iTunes at the time.

Wouldn’t a number of the hard-core fans have purchased the Collector’s Edition album and gotten the single as an advance rather than just buy the single itself?

Maybe a lot of people who bought FYE off the AO site did so through the pre-order the deluxe album offer. If they did that, wasn’t FYE considered a free single and so wouldn’t have any sales to be counted?

Seriously, I have a feeling that the 3 days sales of FYE off Adam’s official site weren’t substantial enough to make any real difference in terms of the Billboard charts. That’s just a gut feeling on my part, based on the fact that many of the hardcore Adam fans I am acquainted in rarely even go on the AO site, so may not have even been aware that they could download the single off that site.

No way that singles number from yesterday could be THAT way off the TFM number. That just doesn’t make sense imo.

As I posted yesterday in the sales thread, it makes absolute complete sense. TfM had a top-placement banner on the homepage, music page, and pop page of the iTunes store. FYE had no banners in its first week. Having iTunes banner placement has shown to increase sales by up to 5x non-publicized items. It is absolutely no surprise to me whatsoever that TfM out-sold FYE, and I certainly don’t see the sales discrepancy as evidence of some kind of Sony/Soundscan conspiracy to misreport or obscure the sales numbers for FYE.

I think that Allison is going to get very little AI bump’ ¦i think she is a terrific talent and will have a long and successful career, but I don’t see her breaking out right out of the box’ ¦.she does not have a huge AI fan base waiting to buy her singles and album and as of yet has had very little publicity’ ¦

I tend to agree. I had a feeling she did not have a very big fanbase, certainly less than Adam, Danny, and Kris (well, which makes sense considering she placed fourth!) based on how many times she was in the bottom, plus the top 5/top 4 results (which imo strongly suggested that she shared a lot of fans with Adam, with him being the first fav and her being the second fav for a lot of viewers). I think, in general, that she is liked by a lot of fans, but usually not considered their first fav.

That said, it says a lot that she was signed so quickly, and without any need for anyone to actually sign her in the first place. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if Jive intends to use her to target a hispanic market – especially for young girls – sorta the hispanic Miley, or something. Not at all a bad strategy, imo, and one that could do very very well (she could be like a younger Shakira )

That misses the politique of VFTW (one that, in truth, I’m not totally against). They’re not really celebrating the worst in some unqualified way; they’re very much a pocket of resistance to the Idol institution, and (somehow) believe that voting for inferior talent on said shows will make them the object of ridicule and cut them at the knees. It’s also just all in good fun, as they don’t take everything extremely seriously.

Thanks for the explanation Mark. That makes more sense. I really despise taking everything so seriously when it comes to music, so if it’s all in good fun then what the hell. It was just the idea of getting of getting a positive review from a site with that particular name…well if it was my CD, I’d probably snatch it from their snarky little fingers and run like hell LOL!

(But seriously, I intended no disrespect towards Kris at all — just found it humorous.)

Thanks, Eileen. I will try. I still don’t get yes.com. I see a lot of chatter, and when FYE occasionally gets played, I see a lot of smiley faces. Otherwise, they seem to just ramble on, like they would in any chat room. Tho I did found about the FYE v Ryan Star’s Breathe call-in.

As far as VFTW, I understand the general premise, they have a few good interviews (ITA on Felicia and Mishovannah, NAY on Alex Trugman–feh), MJ is on there occasionally, and I think Dave and Professor Chan (I actually like his reviews a lot) are fine. But the POSTERS are mean and homophobic, and that’s why I don’t hit them up anymore. It is ironic that they gave up a thumbs up to Kris, when their point is to take the Idol least likely to stay on and vote for him/her. And man, were they mean toward Adam, Matt, and Danny (Danny in particular).

but it will be a few days before he moves up anymore based on the break right around #20-ish.

It will be a few weeks. That’s a big break. The song is gaining 200 spins a week and there is about 400 spins to the next range (it’s not going to catch LifeHouse, but it’s groing faster than Mayer and a few songs up the chart and should reel them eventually at that pace). The Fray are dropping, but they are high enough that it will take a while before the drop below a thousand. The good news is that no songs on that chart below LLWD are gaining faster, so he shouldn’t lose position.

The higher up a chart you go, typically the smaller the moves. There are bigger gaps between the songs and nobody is going recurrent above you.

It looks like Danny’s song was played by a radio station today. I think that it might have been a station in Milwaukee. From Twitter:

mitchmorgan23: Got the Danny Gokey country tune coming up

Does anyone know where you can find the amount of spins/radio airplay for Danny?

That’s just a gut feeling on my part, based on the fact that many of the hardcore Adam fans I am acquainted in rarely even go on the AO site, so may not have even been aware that they could download the single off that site.

They may frequent the AO site, but the deluxe album availability there was posted all over Twitter and the blogs.

Edit: People were also aware of the site because the site played full versions of FYE and TFM

As I posted yesterday in the sales thread, it makes absolute complete sense. TfM had a top-placement banner on the homepage, music page, and pop page of the iTunes store. FYE had no banners in its first week. Having iTunes banner placement has shown to increase sales by up to 5x non-publicized items. It is absolutely no surprise to me whatsoever that TfM out-sold FYE, and I certainly don’t see the sales discrepancy as evidence of some kind of Sony/Soundscan conspiracy to misreport or obscure the sales numbers for FYE.

And it makes perfect sense.

Those are underwelming pre-order numbers for Adam on Itunes btw.

I’ve been concerned about Allison for a while as well. Adam and Kris both debuted on major radio stations (KIIS for Adam, Z100 for Kris) whereas Alli was on popeater. And her “debut” with KIIS was not widely publicized at all.

Allison just needs to be heard. Once her interview rounds start she’ll be fine.

I’m not so sure about this. Allison has never done really well at interviews – it was probably one of her biggest problems on Idol. while initially Kris didn’t do very well either he has gotten a lot better. Maybe Allison’s training can work the same wonders that happened for Kris, but I’m not sure, especially when you consider her Twitter account which I can no longer even try to read.

Can someone confirm the following? My iTunes is being wonky today for some reason and the charts are reading weird, with one category overlapping with other categories.

LLWD music video is #19 on pop and #26 on overall music video chart

Thanks!

As I posted yesterday in the sales thread, it makes absolute complete sense. TfM had a top-placement banner on the homepage, music page, and pop page of the iTunes store. FYE had no banners in its first week. Having iTunes banner placement has shown to increase sales by up to 5x non-publicized items. It is absolutely no surprise to me whatsoever that TfM out-sold FYE, and I certainly don’t see the sales discrepancy as evidence of some kind of Sony/Soundscan conspiracy to misreport or obscure the sales numbers for FYE.

While the itunes roll out and its related “issues” certainly contributed to the effect, if we count the first week of TFM and FYE as predominantly hardcore fan driven sales, AND if we add in the fact (not just supposition) that AO offered the single exclusively on its page at first, and did so in conjunction with the deluxe album purchase, then it makes sense to say that to some extent the AO album DID effect FYE’s numbers.

That is, if there had been no deluxe album pre-order available on AO, but only the single, then that would have counted toward the singles sales, whereas with the deluxe album available, it did not.

And of course I have no idea WHAT the effect would be, in terms of a number estimate, but it definitely had SOME effect.

Can someone confirm the following? My iTunes is being wonky today

Itunes is frozen again, just like last week.

Jx223

If Danny’s single is getting any reported spins, I think it would show up on the same mediabase site we have been using to track Kris, Adam and Allison. I know mediabase does track country stations. But the single hasn’t even been officially released yet has it?

Okay- I missed something from yesterday to today. Are we saying now that those first couple of days sales from AO were not counted in the first week FYE sales?

I think, Brian Mansfield pretty much confirmed it in Idol Chatter blog.

The good thing is that he still sold them, though, so when it eventually comes to certifications — hopefully! — they’ll get counted at some point, certainly.

I think I’m the only one on this planet who have never heard Archie’s Crush or Elliot’s single.

Probably, lol. But the real test of whether you ever listen to radio at all is this: Have you heard “Before He Cheats”? Because that one — wow. Talk about filling the air waves.

Scratch what I just typed. Danny’s single has had 13 total spins to-date, across 5 different stations.

Those are underwelming pre-order numbers for Adam on Itunes btw

You have numbers for the preorders?!

girlygirl
11/12/2009 at 11:35 am

VFTW is designed to snark on the Idols and has nothing to do with actual music journalism or criticism. So I don’t take anything they say with much seriousness. I suppose It’s nice that they gave Kris’ album a decent write-up, but it’s really not worth any more than if I wrote a review myself and posted in on the web.

IDK, to me there is something heartwarming by Kris seemingly winning over cynics. And at the least they’re more widely read than anyone who posts here, except mj of course. lol. Or Jim Cantiello….or Richard Rushfield…..or Brian Mansfield, well you get the picture, did I leave anyone out? (JIC, these guys have all commented on mjs.)

Allison just needs to be heard. Once her interview rounds start she’ll be fine.

I’m not so sure about this. Allison has never done really well at interviews ‘“ it was probably one of her biggest problems on Idol. while initially Kris didn’t do very well either he has gotten a lot better. Maybe Allison’s training can work the same wonders that happened for Kris, but I’m not sure, especially when you consider her Twitter account which I can no longer even try to read.

You mean Wazzuppp shnaappppsss son!, doesn’t do it for you? Yeah, she bugs on Twitter. I will say that she mostly isn’t like that in her interviews, though granted, she still isn’t great at interviews. But I think it’s more just making the rounds, doing an okay job there, and having her single played and taking part of things like the radio sponsored shows that she is a part of, will help her.

For some reason I’m not as worried about Allison. I mean I am, but I’m not because I don’t think she has the expectations on her that either Adam or Kris have on them, and that maybe she’s going to be given the chance to grow as a new artist would, and not the expected up and to the right immediately for the other higher octane idols. So maybe Jive is okay with getting growth from her and more reasonable timeframes of selling and more reasonable numbers about that. Or something.

It is certainly as possible that they reported those three days of AO.com sales in with this past sales week as it is that they didn’t report them at all.

Wouldn’t those numbers be reported as “last week” sales? Aren’t there rules about these types of things? Can Sony take numbers from one week and post them in the next week’s numbers? I believe there would be safegaurds put in place for this or everyone would release mid-week so they could “roll-over” their numbers into the next week. If this could have been done, LLWD numbers for Friday-Sunday could have been “rolled-over”.

Maybe a lot of people who bought FYE off the AO site did so through the pre-order the deluxe album offer. If they did that, wasn’t FYE considered a free single and so wouldn’t have any sales to be counted?

I’m sure some bought the album. But, many just bought the single due to the fact that they had already pre-ordered from Amazon. Or they are like me and want the single NOW, but want to purchase the hard-copy from a local retailer. Not everyone wants to pay that much money for an album.

Allison Iraheta’s Just Like You: The Album Snippet Preview!
by Jim Cantiello

http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/11/12/allison-iraheta-just-like-you-album/

Overall, I worry that the album gets off on the wrong foot. It’s not until the one-two punch of tracks five and six (“Scars” and “Pieces”) that I start to dig her sound. And while there are other winners on the CD (especially “Beat Me Up” and “No One Else”), I hear more filler than I’d like to.

Adam is holding his own on i-Tunes. #3 on Pop albums and

#20 on Pop singles. # 36 on all singles.

And #18 on overall top albums.

ETA, and #10 in Amazon bestseller.

I know those are not stellar rankings, but I’m still happy.

We still have to bear in mind that these are pre-orders…the album is not even out yet…i have never in my life preordered a record (until now), and most people simply buy when it is onsale….i mean why pre-order on itunes, when you can just download it immediately once it is available…..so for it being a pre-order, I think FYE has done quite well…Altho SuBo is the queen of amazon pre-orders, she does not appear to have done as well wrt itunes preorders (which is not surprising)

Or Jim Cantiello’ ¦.or Richard Rushfield’ ¦..or Brian Mansfield, well you get the picture, did I leave anyone out? (JIC, these guys have all commented on mjs.)

Has Slezak ever posted here? Lol

It is absolutely no surprise to me whatsoever that TfM out-sold FYE, and I certainly don’t see the sales discrepancy as evidence of some kind of Sony/Soundscan conspiracy to misreport or obscure the sales numbers for FYE.

Haven’t you heard? Sony suppressed Adam’s sales to prevent the voting public….I mean, the public from knowing how well Adam is doing against Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Jay Sean & Britney Spears. It wouldn’t be fair. They’ll release the numbers after the finale.

You have numbers for the preorders?!

Yeah, the deluxe peaked on #10 and it was #18 last time the chart was updated. The other one never broke the top 100 (if it did it didn’t stay there for long)

Jx223

If Danny’s single is getting any reported spins, I think it would show up on the same mediabase site we have been using to track Kris, Adam and Allison. I know mediabase does track country stations. But the single hasn’t even been officially released yet has it?

The single hasn’t been officially released for sale yet, but according to Danny it was sent out to radio stations yesterday. Do you know if mediabase will be able to track his amount of spins now, even though his song is not up for sale yet?

Haven’t you heard? Sony suppressed Adam’s sales to prevent the voting public’ ¦.

They didn’t suppress the numbers. They just didn’t cheat and report them in a week they weren’t sold in. (I’m sure it’s not even allowed.)

Ok, I just went on the “live” Mediabase Top 40 chart, which supposedly updates every few minutes: FIBOU (Allison) is at #83 (up 1 spot from last week), FYE (Adam) is at #67 (up 8 spots from last week) and Let’s Fall In Love Again (Jason) is at #61 (same as last week), Life After You (Daughtry) is at #58 (up 37 spots from last week), LLWD (Kris) is at #38 (up 1 spot from last week), S.O.S. (Jordin) is at #31 (same as last week) and Already Gone (Kelly) is at #8 (down 1 spot from last week)

You have numbers for the preorders?!

Yeah, the deluxe peaked on #10 and it was #18 last time the chart was updated. The other one never broke the top 100 (if it did it didn’t stay there for long)

I think the question is whether we know what these numbers mean? This is just an iTunes rank but being #10 or #18 doesn’t tell the number of units moved.

ETA: girlygirl – you have Kris and Kelly both at #8.

I didn’t see this posted yet People’s Choice Award Interview and this time no Adam mentions…yay! All just about Kris and his album and music. And yeah, he’s getting better at interviews I think. Though the mumbling is still a factor, it’s so much less and he’s pretty excited! yay!

for the kradison free concert, Little Rock is apparently second behind New York! As much as it would be cool if Little Rock wins, I think it would be better for Kris to have exposure in a city like New York. What do you think?

Mtlfn: Kris is part of the Z100 Jingle Bell Ball at Madison Square Garden in December – the event is sold out.

I’d like to see a West Coast concert, actually – LLWD was just heard for the first time yesterday in the Seattle area and we’re the #13 market. Need more West Coast exposure, IMO.

Jx223

Yup — Danny’s single is on the mediabase site

According to this, It’s Only has received 13 total spins so far this week from a total of 5 stations. KSOP-FM in Salt Lake City has played it 6 times, WMIL-FM in Milwaukee 4 times, and KMPS-FM (Seattle), WSOC-FM (Charlotte) and WIWF-FM (Charleston, SC) have each played it once (these are all country radio stations)

Megan is at the Bethel Foundation today in Oklahoma City. Good for her. She probably can appreciate the challenges of other single mothers, and I admire her using her position to help raise money.

http://www.bethelfoundationusa.com/All_American_Idol.html

edit: You totally miss the contradiction between the ugly insults you hurl and your criticism of others for supposedly doing the same.

Yes, I’ve heard Before He Cheats! lol

anovich

Yeah, thanks — I edited the post — LLWD is at #38

Ha ha, Little Rock is in the lead for Ryan’s Kris-Adam-Allison concert!

MJ! What has happened to the quoting? I can’t find the quting bars, are they not working with firefox?

I think the question is whether we know what these numbers mean? This is just an iTunes rank but being #10 or #18 doesn’t tell the number of units moved.

We will never know that. We can only estimate based on what others albums have sold when they hit those same (or near that) numbers on Itunes.

Jx223

Yup ‘” Danny’s single is on the mediabase site

According to this, It’s Only has received 13 total spins so far this week from a total of 5 stations. KSOP-FM in Salt Lake City has played it 6 times, WMIL-FM in Milwaukee 4 times, and KMPS-FM (Seattle), WSOC-FM (Charlotte) and WIWF-FM (Charleston, SC) have each played it once (these are all country radio stations

Thanks for the information

I hope that Danny gets more radio airplay.

And a huge LOL for Little Rock being in the lead of the Kradison concert… couldn’t they figure out that would happpen?

Kris is part of the Z100 Jingle Bell Ball at Madison Square Garden in December ‘“ the event is sold out.

eileen99, arghh how could I forgot about this one! yeah west coast seems a better idea.

according to mimi, seems Little Rock is in the lead now… hahaha

Seriously, I have a feeling that the 3 days sales of FYE off Adam’s official site weren’t substantial enough to make any real difference in terms of the Billboard charts. That’s just a gut feeling on my part, based on the fact that many of the hardcore Adam fans I am acquainted in rarely even go on the AO site, so may not have even been aware that they could download the single off that site.

Hardcore Adam fans follow him on twitter. Adam tweeted twice that a collector’s edition and single were available at Adamofficial.com. You don’t have to be a regular visitor to his website to have noticed that.

Little Rock is in the lead….oh yuck

And a huge LOL for Little Rock being in the lead of the Kradison concert’ ¦ couldn’t they figure out that would happpen?

and i read that it’s one vote per person… hahaha

and i read that it’s one vote per person’ ¦ hahaha

per email

Truthiness

That was a pretty good interview with Kris, although the reporter was bugging me with her continually pulling the mike back before Kris answered the question, so she could say something else herself. Kris’ reaction to being nominated for the PCA was typical… “I heard my name and yeah, that was cool”

Sounds like he might not have any New Year’s Eve performance set up yet. He said they had talked about going to NY, but the way he said it, it was like more just going with friends and hanging out, not performing on one of the New Year’s Eve tv shows.

leome
11/12/2009 at 2:07 pm

Those are underwelming pre-order numbers for Adam on Itunes btw.

What did the other idols hit on their preorders? The Itunes pass, did it chart? I know Kris and Allison’s presale didn’t hit those numbers. I didn’t follow David Cook or David Archuleta last season online, did they have a big itunes pre-order ranking? I’m just curious as to what the standard is for “underwhelming”.

Wouldn’t a number of the hard-core fans have purchased the Collector’s Edition album and gotten the single as an advance rather than just buy the single itself?

Thats what I did

The concert going to Little Rock will be classic. Not the biggest cities in the US, nope, Little Rock. Uh hunh.

And a huge LOL for Little Rock being in the lead of the Kradison concert’ ¦ couldn’t they figure out that would happpen?

Yeah. Seriously…..

Kris and Allison never hit #1 with their albums or singles on itunes. Adam’s hit #10 Album on iTunes preorders and #1 Pop. Adam’s single FYE has charted the highest on iTunes up to #13. Very good stats for iTunes.

OMG Little Rock being the highest for concert. I’m not surprised but annoyed.

Kris fans will take good news and positive reviews from any source.

Kris has had many positive reviews from people that matter both on tour and for his album , i doubt he wld want this from worsters. I bet he didn’t want them supporting him during idol either.

yikes is the right word.

There’s a radio station in Little Rock that is pimping voting for Little Rock to get the Kradison concert — and I saw that Mama Allen retweeted that this morning. If Little Rock ends up getting it, well good for them. It’s one vote per email address, although I suppose people could make up a bunch of fake email address if they want to vote multiple times. People in other cities could do that as well if they wanted.

Adam and Allison both enjoyed the Little Rock concert and were very well received there, so I don’t think they would have a problem with going there if that’s who ends up winning the concert.

Squirrely
11/12/2009 at 2:41 pm
and i read that it’s one vote per person’ ¦ hahaha

per email

Is that per email address?? LOL..if only yahoomail, gmail and hotmail would give state specific stats on new emails created since the contest started. Could be interesting!

“Wow, they didn’t hate it! Two thumbs up for VFTW. Wait till they get to FYE. *shuddering*

I bet they will say Adam is trying to hard.

They will crucify Adam whether they like the music or not. Not going to waste my time reading anything from them about Adam.”

I think this is a set up by VFTW…they will give Adam a terrible review and compare him to Kris who they gave a good review to and try to get the fan wars going…which results in multible hits for their site.

Glitter

Why are you annoyed? As I said before, it’s a one vote per email contest. If Little Rock is more excited about a Kradison concert than NY or L.A. is, so what? IMO, it’s really not a big deal at all.

The concert going to Little Rock will be classic. Not the biggest cities in the US, nope, Little Rock. Uh hunh.

This is so not a good thing… Not even for Kris. It will just bring back all the talk about voting and such. And it will not really be a Kradison concert.

They didn’t suppress the numbers. They just didn’t cheat and report them in a week they weren’t sold in. (I’m sure it’s not even allowed.)

Dunno if anyone got my joke — that we’re somehow still watching Idol and Sony is hiding Adam’s sales from the public.

Nonetheless, I don’t understand your response. “The week they weren’t sold in.” Huh? iTunes isn’t the only place that gets to report sales.

Why are you annoyed? As I said before, it’s a one vote per email contest. If Little Rock is more excited about a Kradison concert than NY or L.A. is, so what?

This is a chance for a town who never had an idol concert. Little Rock had a concert. Kris is from their hometown. They will always see him in concert. It just seems selfish to me or any city that gets an idol concert again.

ETA more thoughts

What did the other idols hit on their preorders? The Itunes pass, did it chart? I know Kris and Allison’s presale didn’t hit those numbers. I didn’t follow David Cook, did he have a big itunes pre-order? I’m just curious as to what the standard is for ‘underwhelming’ .

I think Kris pre-order only hit #40 or something around that, I’m not sure. Cook’s was #2 (I don’t know if at some point it made #1, so I’ll just stay with the 2). Archie’s deluxe was #6.
Considering how well it has done on Amazon, I’m wondering if this year the idol audience just really got older compared to last year. Maybe that’s why digital sales are a bit underwelming compared to last year. Maybe Kris and Adam fans are older. LOL Just speculating here.

Did FYE (the single) make it all the way to #13 on the Top 100 songs on iTunes. I haven’t really been following it lately. Or did it go to #13 in Pop. There’s a difference.

I’m pretty sure you can get #1 on the ITunes album chart with sales of 8K a day and probably even less than that some weeks. (I’m too lazy to really research it).

Cook’s was #2 (I don’t know if at some point it made #1, so I’ll just stay with the 2).

It did. I have a screenshot somewhere in this mess of files…..

And jpfan is correct. iTunes moves very few albums compared to the rest of the market, so a pre-order going to #1 there isn’t much indication of the units it will move. Cook’s album did very well on iTunes, going to #1 overall as a pre-order and to #3 overall upon release (Beyonce and Nickelback held the top two slots). He broke the record for most digital albums sold by a new artist – and moved only 49,000 units digitally out of his 279K total.

Kris’ album pre-order was well above #40. It got up to #7 on the iTunes pop chart and I believe into the low 20′s somewhere overall.

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The cities behind Little Rock in the voting right now are New York and Los Angeles — both of which saw the Idol tour come to town this summer, and both of which are going to get multiple concerts from multiple Idols over the coming years. And who knows if Adam or Allison will ever do a concert in Little Rock as solo artists — people want to see them too.

If L.A. or NY wins, are you going to say that’s not fair or not good?

I can’t hate on Little Rock for wanting the Kris Drizzle to mist over them.

Is that per email address?? LOL..if only yahoomail, gmail and hotmail would give state specific stats on new emails created since the contest started. Could be interesting!

You don’t need to create new email account from this public providers. You can register a domain and create almost unlimited email account from that domain.

Honestly, did anyone actually think the concert was going to be anywhere BUT Little Rock? If one of the three were from my town, we might have given LR a run for its money, because there would have been the same sort of civic-pride thing. But, fans of Kris/Adam/Ali elsewhere in the country didn’t stand a chance! And I think that’s great. It reminds me of how proud Richmond was of Elliott back in his season. Good for Little Rock!

Tony
11/12/2009 at 2:52 pm
They didn’t suppress the numbers. They just didn’t cheat and report them in a week they weren’t sold in. (I’m sure it’s not even allowed.)

Dunno if anyone got my joke ‘” that we’re somehow still watching Idol and Sony is hiding Adam’s sales from the public.

Ah, Tony I got your joke LOL (and almost replied, but my response wasn’t nearly as funny as your statement so I didn’t post it.)

But unfortunately it such a deadly serious world in musicville…it’s like we’re fighting the plague or something. Anyway, thanks for the laugh!

The concert going to Little Rock will be classic. Not the biggest cities in the US, nope, Little Rock. Uh hunh.

This is so not a good thing’ ¦ Not even for Kris. It will just bring back all the talk about voting and such. And it will not really be a Kradison concert.

Arkansas can contribute to Kris’s idol win, may take this concert, but I’m surprised they haven’t bought more of Kris’s single/album.

Jim didn’t like Alli’s snippets?

I am not sure I ever pre-ordered an album before, except Kris’s iTunes pass. In fact, I pre-ordered from iTunes *and* AO, so I think this (especially the pre-order) *will* impact FYE sales (and LLWD ones as week), if I am correct.

I do NOT want the concert in Little Rock, not b/c it shouldn’t be there, but b/c there will ABSOLUTELY be fan warring (along with the dreaded Kradison talk, that really needs to stop–even I think that). No. Have it somewhere, like NYC or Chicago (or BOSTON, tee hee).

What did the other idols hit on their preorders? The Itunes pass, did it chart? I know Kris and Allison’s presale didn’t hit those numbers. I didn’t follow David Cook or David Archuleta last season online, did they have a big itunes pre-order ranking? I’m just curious as to what the standard is for ‘underwhelming’ .

You can read in this old thread a little at DCO the rankings as soon the pre-order went up on 10/21. It got to #6 by the first night, then the next day 3, then by Thursday it reached #2 so it actually got higher and higher as the days went on.

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Aww!

There’s a radio station in Little Rock that is pimping voting for Little Rock to get the Kradison concert ‘” and I saw that Mama Allen retweeted that this morning. If Little Rock ends up getting it, well good for them.

It’s foolish of them to think they would pick up as many new fans as they would in LA or NYC. Completely foolish.

Arkansas can contribute to Kris’s idol win, may take this concert, but I’m surprised they haven’t bought more of Kris’s single/album.

Because it actually involves money, no powervote. The concert being in Little Rock will be pathetic, just a joke. Shows how representative voting is.

If you want the concert in your town, vote! It takes commitment. Go for it. Little Rock has as much right to the concert as anyone else. Why should there be fanwarring over it?

leome
11/12/2009 at 2:53 pm
Considering how well it has done on Amazon, I’m wondering if this year the idol audience just really got older compared to last year. Maybe that’s why digital sales are a bit underwelming compared to last year. Maybe Kris and Adam fans are older. LOL Just speculating here.

I read somewhere the average age of the regular AI watcher is approx. 40 years old. I can’t remember where I read it, though, so don’t quote me as singing the gospel truth.:)

Does anybody know where country stations add songs? I know it’s Monday for AC and HAC and Tuesday for CHR. I checked the country adds and see about 1% of the new adds are in. Bucky’s new song got one. I’m interested to see if any stations add Danny’s song. Although again I’m not sure when it’s actually going for adds.

This is an interesting review by Jim C. of Allison’s song snippets. He has some good things to say, as well as some complaints. A balanced review that doesn’t come off either as OTT fanboyish or as way too harsh

http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/11/12/allison-iraheta-just-like-you-album/

If LittleRock wins can’t we just send Kris and let Allison and Adam play to other people who might want to buy their cds. If LittleRock wants Kris to play so badly surely Kris could do a couple of concerts there.

The reporting cutoff for Country adds is Monday at noon Pacific.

She calls me Cookie, and I call her Ms. Underwood. And it’ll probably stay that way until I reach her level.

OK, this is adorable. Also, I love how he says “until” rather than “unless”. He has big aspirations, our Cookie.

EmmaJK
11/12/2009 at 10:54 am
That ’5 Questions’  article with David Cook has so much goodness in it:

To that end, Cook ‘” a guitarist ‘” is trying to beef up his piano-playing skills. ‘The goal right now is to try to get it to where I can play it live.’ 

eep. I would die.

Eeps with you. I love how he’s always pushing himself for the next thing.

thedavidcook: Where is that worm I was promised for getting up this early?!?

And I also love his sense of humor on twitter. I’m just all about the love today apparently.

ladymadonna
11/12/2009 at 2:55 pm
Cook’s was #2 (I don’t know if at some point it made #1, so I’ll just stay with the 2).

It did. I have a screenshot somewhere in this mess of files’ ¦..

Me too! I have no idea how to link it here, but it looks really nice sitting there at #1 on my computer background I must say…….

Arkansas can contribute to Kris’s idol win, may take this concert, but I’m surprised they haven’t bought more of Kris’s single/album.

Do we know Kris itune pass sales? Maybe Arkansas do support Kris by buying his music.

I think LA, NYC or Chicago will be better cities for Kradison concert in that more national media will report the concert if it’s hold in these larger cities.

iTunes moves very few albums compared to the rest of the market, so a pre-order going to #1 there isn’t much indication of the units it will move.

Oh, I have no misunderstanding as to the limited number of albums Amazon and Itunes sell compared to the big box retailers. I was just wondering why Adam’s numbers were classified as underwhelming. It seemed strange to me. I think we already knew that the Davids have bigger fanbases, that’s been proven in the preliminary sales figures.

I read somewhere the average age of the regular AI watcher is approx. 40 years old. I can’t remember where I read it, though, so don’t quote me as singing the gospel truth.:)

iirc, it’s from a Nielson Media report/article.

It’s foolish of them to think they would pick up as many new fans as they would in LA or NYC. Completely foolish.

There are only so many people who can get into the concert anyway. I’m sure Little Rock could fill a venue. Those are the new fans one might win.

And seriously, I begin to doubt that there will be any new fans to be had. The diehards will be the ones going.

BTW Anybody suspect that there is an AI tie in here? The season will be on-going by that point. Will they show some footage on AI? This year, Feb 17th was the date of the first semi-final round. The season started on Jan 13th. If it starts Jan 12th next year, the semi-finals should start Feb 16th. Just enough time to edit some footage.

Another brief interview with Kris during the PCA nomination presser.

“Oh whoa…that’s weird”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbAAK7HxJEU&feature=player_embedded#

from the mtv newsroom…. you go boy, lolol…
—————————————————
Spotted: David Archuleta Satisfies His Hunger

Posted 55 minutes ago by MTV News in Music

Former “American Idol” contestant David Archuleta didn’t win the season he competed (that honor went to erstwhile Our Lady Peace fan David Cook), but in many ways it’s worked out better for Archie. He has never had to deal with the pressure or scrutiny of being the winner, but there is still plenty of enthusiasm surrounding everything he works on (including his recently-released Christmas album). Plus, he’s not hounded by photographers all that often. Really, it’s the best kind of fame. Still, it was nice to see him show up in the paparazzi viewfinders yesterday, as Archuleta was spotted leaving high-end Los Angeles eatery Il Pastaio with an unidentified female companion. He wasn’t the only star who rolled in public yesterday, as Leona Lewis paid a visit to Radio One in London and Robin Thicke dropped in on a radio station in Miami.

http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/11/12/spotted-david-archuleta/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

I think Adam’s early single sales on iTunes have been underwhelming. His album pre-sales seem fine (although obviously not as strong as Cook’s last year.) Adam’s pre sales on Amazon are excellent though.

Can someone tell me what is the link to the live mediabase chart? Thanks

Sounds about right to me Kirsten.

BeckyMD
11/12/2009 at 3:11 pm
I read somewhere the average age of the regular AI watcher is approx. 40 years old. I can’t remember where I read it, though, so don’t quote me as singing the gospel truth.:)

iirc, it’s from a Nielson Media report/article.

Thanks.

If LittleRock wins can’t we just send Kris and let Allison and Adam play to other people who might want to buy their cds. If LittleRock wants Kris to play so badly surely Kris could do a couple of concerts there.

Adam and Allison both have fans in Arkansas. While Kris might be the hometown hero there, people can be fans of more than one of them.

Ladyguard

What? There are lots of people in Arkansas would will buy Adam’s and/or Allison’s albums. They both RAVED about how welcome they felt when they played the Idol tour in LR this summer. I’m sure there were thousands of people who live in that state that voted for Adam or Allison over the course of the show.

I’ve never even ever BEEN to Arkansas — I went on the site and voted for the concert to be here in L.A., so I could actually go see it. But I’m not going to get upset if some other city gets it.

BTW Anybody suspect that there is an AI tie in here? The season will be on-going by that point. Will they show some footage on AI? This year, Feb 17th was the date of the first semi-final round. The season started on Jan 13th. If it starts Jan 12th next year, the semi-finals should start Feb 16th. Just enough time to edit some footage.

Ho! A set up! Conspiracy! Is that what you’re saying?

If LittleRock wins can’t we just send Kris and let Allison and Adam play to other people who might want to buy their cds. If LittleRock wants Kris to play so badly surely Kris could do a couple of concerts there.

Adam and Allison both have fans in Arkansas. While Kris might be the hometown hero there, people can be fans of more than one of them.

Can I get the link please? I can’t find it anymore. Thanks.

I read somewhere the average age of the regular AI watcher is approx. 40 years old. I can’t remember where I read it, though, so don’t quote me as singing the gospel truth.:)

iirc, it’s from a Nielson Media report/article.

found an article for you in my notes… read more at the link… nice picture of david a there, heh.

from the la times earlier this year…

‘American Idol’ median viewer age hits 40
January 14, 2009 | 5:17 pm

Oh, no! Is “American Idol” getting … middle-aged?

Fox’s singing competition returned for its eighth season Tuesday with a total audience of 30.4 million viewers, or a 9% decline compared with last year’s launch, according to Nielsen Media Research.

But a more arresting detail is buried within the numbers. Tuesday’s audience was the oldest ever for an “Idol” season opener, with a median age of 40.3 years. That’s quite a bit older than the “Idol” contestants, who are all in their teens or 20s.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/01/american-idol-m.html

As soon as I saw that Little Rock was eligible I knew that there was no question that it would be in Little Rock….hopefully concert goers and voters will also be album buyers

Well coolio that Little Rock and Arkansas continue to show such (outsized) support. I guess they should reap the rewards of all their hard work of disproportionate to population, voting.

I’m just being bitter because I know people I could have visited in LA and NY and maybe gone to the concert. I know of no one in Little Rock, nor do I have a desire to go to Little Rock for the concert. Whereas taking a few days in NY or LA I could definitely do, and caught the concert as part of that. So selfishly, this sucks.

But for beyond that, I find it very amusing and entertaining, so rock on Little Rock.

SueBrody

Here’s the link for the voting for the Kradison concert

http://eventful.com/performers/adam-kris-allison-/P0-001-000216224-2/competitions?ev_partner=1134&ev_campaign=AKA&ev_channel=twitter_generic

It says 837 people from the Little Rock area have voted. That’s not exactly a whopping sum, is it? NYC area is next, with 796 votes, followed by L.A. with 632 votes

nvm

Oh, Janet jackson will be opening the AMA’s. If I remember correctly that leaves one last perfomer to be announced… I am a bit unsure if the organizer said there will be 17 or 18 performances. I know Jay-Z and Alicia Keys will do their duet.

So we know Adam won’t open the AMA’s (Squirrely thought so).

jpfan
11/12/2009 at 2:54 pm
Did FYE (the single) make it all the way to #13 on the Top 100 songs on iTunes. I haven’t really been following it lately. Or did it go to #13 in Pop. There’s a difference.

Nope, I believe FYE the single hasn’t made it up that far. None of the idol singles this year have made it into the top 10 from this season except Adam’s Time For Miracles, which I believe got to #8 or #9 in overall songs. I can’t remember which. LLWD peaked at #26 or #29, can’t really remember. Adam’s FYE was #23 overall on itunes at one point in the last couple of days, I don’t know if it went higher. I don’t track Allison’s single, but reading Girlygirl’s comments, it doesn’t seem to have gone very high.

“…found an article for you in my notes’ ¦ read more at the link’ ¦ nice picture of david a there, heh. from the la times earlier this year’ ¦”

My thanks to you, too, ggdoorsfan, that’s the one.

Kris just tweeted about this Kradison concert, BTW:

KrisAllen

#I see you little rock trying to win the concert. 7 minutes ago from Echofon

Kris just tweeted about this Kradison concert, BTW:

KrisAllen

#I see you little rock trying to win the concert. 7 minutes ago from Echofon

Lol – but it has to make him feel good to know how much his hometown supports him and his friends

I don’t understand the hate on having a Kradison concert Little Rock. Little Rock was one of the sellouts they had on tour. The crowd reaction from the video was overwhelmingly for Kris but Adam and Allison got bunches of love also. As far as the media, it’s not like the event would not be covered nationally with FOX taking the lead and it getting picked up by other media outlets. Media is universal these days. This concert is less about Kris, Adam and Allison but more about the almighty dolla for AI, 19 and FOX. Kradison probably won’t even get paid for the event because it will probalby falls under that special clause in their contracts under paragraph this section that. If Little Rock wins, good for them. As Kris has said before, it will not be overshadowed by any other event and will get the royal treatment.

What? There are lots of people in Arkansas would will buy Adam’s and/or Allison’s albums.

If we think the concert as a chance to convince non-fans to buy their albums, it will actually benefit Adam and Allison more should the concert be in Arkansas because most of the concert goers there probably have already bought Kris itune pass or decided to buy his music.

Thanks, girlygirl. And yeah, I wanted to go to the concert, and maybe could have from Boston, but not going to Little Rock. Where’s Mama Lambert and Mama Iraheta?

I think Jim C. got his advance copy of Kris’ album…

jambajim

# GASP! Just got a Kick Awesome CD in the mail. Hint hint. Jealous? 6 minutes ago from web

Considering how well it has done on Amazon, I’m wondering if this year the idol audience just really got older compared to last year. Maybe that’s why digital sales are a bit underwelming compared to last year. Maybe Kris and Adam fans are older. LOL Just speculating here.

Well, not only is the AI audience skewing older, but I’d venture a guess that the most hardcore fans right now tend to skew older too. A lot of teens, for instance, who love AI don’t follow as religiously at this ponit in the game – they’ve moved on to the next Miley or Taylor song.

This very well could be contributing to some of the slower sales, particularly for things like FYE, which is much more geared toward a younger, pop market. That’s why getting all these things out of the AI bubble is so important.

omg, this is adorable. USAToday answered DC’s tweet:

@thedavidcook: A random hint: I am the answer to number 6 for USA today’s Thursday edition of up & down words’ ¦ I’ve officially made it.
about 2 hours ago from mobile web

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SueBrody,

If you go to the TV Guide Site, Adam is not on the Hot List, he actually has his own link to his own Hot Entertainer Article with pic.

no prob kneipho…

Oh, I have no misunderstanding as to the limited number of albums Amazon and Itunes sell compared to the big box retailers. I was just wondering why Adam’s numbers were classified as underwhelming. It seemed strange to me. I think we already knew that the Davids have bigger fanbases, that’s been proven in the preliminary sales figures.

My point was more comparing the Amazon rankings to Itunes, not so much with the Davids. I just posted their numbers cause it was asked.
The album has done great on Amazon (has it ever been out of the top 10?), but on Itunes it didn’t do as well.

@allen_kimberly

That’s so sweet! If we win you should come join us! half a minute ago from Echofon

lol

I guarantee you that Jim got Kris’s album in the mail. But how? Didn’t he per-order it? (KRIM for sure, tho I don’t get his hint.)

And seriously, I begin to doubt that there will be any new fans to be had. The diehards will be the ones going.

Media coverage, radio give-aways. They’d prob do some press junkets in LA or NYC. Who’s gonna hear the press coverage in Arkansas?

If they were in LA or NYC there would be exposure for them just by them going about town. Remember when Adam went to see Hair? Not only was there press coverage and videos, the audience gave Adam a round of applause when he was escorted to his seat. I’m sure there were some in the audience that said “who’s that” and first learned of Adam.

Great for Little Rock. If they vote for it, they should get it. They certainly do have a lot of pride in their hometown boy, as was evidenced during Ido,l and they should get to celebrate that.

I do understand the hesitation people have though. Kris already had to get through certain assholes in the media calling him the “Arkansas” Idol because of the AT&T Arkansas (not a) scandal. Little Rock winning the concert just brings more opportunity for the same. I’m not a fan of his, but I’d rather not see that shit rear its ugly head up again. By the time the concert happens though, Kris’s album may be a blockbuster and the point may be moot. Who knows?

The total number of people who have voted appears to be pretty small. I don’t really think if LR “wins” the concert, it’s a big deal. 837 to 796? People are really going to try and say this is a problem?

If you go to the TV Guide Site, Adam is not on the Hot List, he actually has his own link to his own Hot Entertainer Article with pic.

Hrrm. Intrigued.

I still think you get more press in NYC than in Little Rock, but maybe by February it won’t matter…

In my opinion, “underwhelming” or “overwhelming” is purely a function of hype and expectation.

Re: Little Rock – more power to them. If they get the most people emailing their votes in, then they deserve the concert. Isn’t that how it is supposed to work?

KrisAllen I see you little rock trying to win the concert.

What? There are lots of people in Arkansas would will buy Adam’s and/or Allison’s albums.

If we think the concert as a chance to convince non-fans to buy their albums, it will actually benefit Adam and Allison more should the concert be in Arkansas because most of the concert goers there probably have already bought Kris itune pass or decided to buy his music.

Not likely a concert in Arkansas is going to put a dent in sales for Adam or Allison.

@thedavidcook: A random hint: I am the answer to number 6 for USA today’s Thursday edition of up & down words’ ¦ I’ve officially made it.
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@USATMediaLounge: You made it without us! ; )

Awwwww!!!

Here’s a pic of the USA Today puzzle that featured David Cook as an answer today. Boy, I’m glad he tweeted that hint or I’m not sure I could have solved it!

http://twitpic.com/p96ay

I think Jim C. got his advance copy of Kris’ album’ ¦

jambajim

# GASP! Just got a Kick Awesome CD in the mail. Hint hint. Jealous? 6 minutes ago from web

Dammit! Kris needs all the sales he can get. Jim would have purchased one. Stupid promo CD.

j/k

I will not be surprised if Little Rock will win the Kradison concert. I think they are already known in putting in a lots of votes for their hometown boy. It will also be a moral booster for Kris.

About the CD jimc received – can I assume it’s Adam’s? Just kidding.

I don’t think media coverage of this concert is going to be a big deal. I think Kirsten’s right. The main coverage for this concert is going to happen on AI season 9. It will be good for all three. Those AI watchers who have forgotten about them will get a refresher on Kris, Adam and Allison. Maybe some will go buy their cds.

I don’t even think this free concert is about making new fans. I’m happy for Little Rock that they support their idol. I voted once for Chicago (thx for the shoutout upthread for my city). I only voted once because it seemed like a bunch of trouble for something I’m just not that interested in. I may see Kris when he comes this way on his own. I was going to go to the Christmas show until I saw how much it cost. (I’m hoping I can score a ticket for real cheap on eBay…if not, I’m good.) I may even see Allison (doubt it based on the snippets–too many are too young sounding), but I’d never pay money to see Adam Lambert. Well I might see him if he was in an old Broadway play that reined him in, but as it stands, nope. He’s just not my cuppa, and I’m talking about his voice. I’m truly unconcerned with his sexuality or his sexual orientation.

Seriously, those of you bitching about Little Rock winning, STFU and get your vote on. There’s nothing stopping you. I’m sure you aren’t in Little Rock so pick your city or make a pact and all vote for one specific city so you can hope Little Rock doesn’t win. You’ve already detailed how to vote multiple times…go do it.

ETA: I started by saying this concert wasn’t for new fans…didn’t quite know what it was for. Thanks for the Season 9 pimpage idea. That makes a lot of sense to me.

My complaint with LittleRock besides the voting (yes scandal) is that IMO it is time for Kradison to be over. Having this concert in LittleRock just makes Allison and Adam opening acts for Kris. That is just so disgusting IMO as they are fighting to become stars on their own right now. But hey, if LittleRock and Mama Allen want this I guess they will get it.

Here’s the link for the voting for the Kradison concert

http://eventful.com/performers/adam-kris-allison-/P0-001-000216224-2/competitions?ev_partner=1134&ev_campaign=AKA&ev_channel=twitter_generic

It says 837 people from the Little Rock area have voted. That’s not exactly a whopping sum, is it? NYC area is next, with 796 votes, followed by L.A. with 632 votes

And, particularly, when you consider the size of Little Rock — area population somewhere under a million — compared with NY (over 18 million in the metropolitan area) and LA (around 13 million) — even though their numbers are underwhelming, they’re a heck of a lot bigger share of the population! Very very little enthusiasm for this idea in LA or NY, apparently, so why should they get a concert?

Given the very low number of votes so far, if Seacrest starts to push people for the concert to be in L.A (don’t know though if he has not done it yet), i don’t think Little rock will win

Just voted for LA didn’t see where u guys saw #’s but at least LA got 1 more !!!
Never did understand AI as I thought the purpose was to sell to the tween’s this is the 1st yr I watched (came late to the season) and when they sang songs from way back when it seemed odd to me as only the older people knew the songs
will give it a try next season but if there is no Adam then it will be short lived for me sorry AI

Oh LOL!

allen_kimberly

# @jambajim if Little Rock wins you should come here to cover the event! Arkansas loves Krim! 4 minutes ago from Echofon

jambajim

# @allen_kimberly DEAL! But only if you show me around town. I’ve never been to AR. Nor have I ever tried cheese dip. half a minute ago from web

I don’t think media coverage of this concert is going to be a big deal. I think Kirsten’s right. The main coverage for this concert is going to happen on AI season 9. It will be good for all three. Those AI watchers who have forgotten about them will get a refresher on Kris, Adam and Allison. Maybe some will go buy their cds.

Honestly, the media for this concert scares me. They will insist on comparing the 3 of them and as I recall from the summer coverage this isn’t a good thing in general. The 3 of them are there own artists and should be treated that way but it is unfortunate that the comparisons will happen. In a sense, especially for Kris and Allison, I think a smaller market that won’t be as picked up is better, because the media seems to enjoy comparing everyone to Adam and regardless of how good they are they will fall short even if it’s not deserved.

I’m pretty impressed with the state of Arkansas!! This state knows how to get behind someone! I think it’s awesome!

Kris Allen way to put Arkansas on the map! Oh, I guess it’s already there. LOL. Sorry.

If some city/state didn’t see the concert and want to, they better get busy.

But “Kradison” won’t be over no matter where the concert is held. The concert is going to be held somewhere. Someone will perform first, someone will perform second, someone will go last. I’m sure they’ll be given equal time and probably sing one song all together. Perfect footage for idol.

Since I cannot edit my above post….I will add to it. I see no benefit to Adam or Allison if this concert ends up in LittleRock and it will just emphasize why the whole idea was stupid. And yeah like Kris isn’t going to perform last in Little Rock…..it will be just a night of homage to Kris with Adam and Allison on the sidelines.

Well Gossipcandy is rallying it’s readers to vote for NYC.

There are different reasons, mainly having to do with tinhatting, lol, but this is there #1 reason:

1) It’s neutral territory. Little Rock, like Los Angeles, would have an obvious HP (Kris) slant and, while I adore HP (Kris), this concert should be about ALL of them.

I added the (Kris).

Eileen99
11/12/2009 at 3:37 pm
In my opinion, ‘underwhelming’  or ‘overwhelming’  is purely a function of hype and expectation.

Haa Haa.

Maybe they misjudge the interest in a concert like this? I know the three of them are great friends and would probably have an awesome time playing together but maybe fans just want to get out of the voting/comparing phase…

Having this concert in LittleRock just makes Allison and Adam opening acts for Kris. That is just so disgusting IMO as they are fighting to become stars on their own right now.

Wouldn’t the same sort of imbalance occur if the concert was in LA?
Best to have it in Milwakee. They don’t have a dog in this fight.

I sense a new front opening up in the fanwar. One piece of well-known advice: “Never get involved in a land war in Asia”. But only slightly less well known is this: “Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line”

jersey: I don’t think media coverage of this concert is going to be a big deal. I think Kirsten’s right. The main coverage for this concert is going to happen on AI season 9. It will be good for all three. Those AI watchers who have forgotten about them will get a refresher on Kris, Adam and Allison. Maybe some will go buy their cds.

I agree that the Friday the 13th Idol concert will not get a lot of media attention. And I don’t think that it will do much either way for Kris, Adam or Allison. By the time Feb. rolls around, the story of the debut albums will already be written, and is any of them does well, they will be touring — hopefully.

I expect that Little Rock will win this because Kris clearly has a lot of fans there. Adam and Allison are both from California but their fanbases are not centered there. Also, haven’t seen any interest in this concert on either the Alli or Adam fan sites.

But if Little Rock beats out NY, LA, San Fran and so on, the press about it may not be so kind to Kris — particularly if his debut album sells less than other winner. Personally, I do not want to read another article or comment about the whole Arkansas Idol AT&T nonsense — so I am routing for NY to win this.

Honestly, the media for this concert scares me. They will insist on comparing the 3 of them and as I recall from the summer coverage this isn’t a good thing in general. The 3 of them are there own artists and should be treated that way but it is unfortunate that the comparisons will happen. In a sense, especially for Kris and Allison, I think a smaller market that won’t be as picked up is better, because the media seems to enjoy comparing everyone to Adam and regardless of how good they are they will fall short even if it’s not deserved.

By the time this happens, I think the media will have moved on from caring, really. This is just going to be one event that these guys happen to attend together. They’ll fly into town and by the next day they’ll all be some place else singing at another concert, or on tv, or at a private party or a charity event or something. I really can’t see it making much of a splash. It’s just a nice, kind of cute thing to do for one town that probably will gather some footage AI can use promotionally on the show or something (…I wonder why Danny isn’t part of this, though, actually …)

Ryan doesn’t seem to care where the concert is, BTW. He just wants people to vote… (he tweeted before LR jumped to #1 in the vote)

ryanseacrest

# Little Rock is killing it in race for “Ryan, Rock My Town!” They’re #3 behind LA & NY. Small towns…ur in this! vote! http://bit.ly/18MSpm about 19 hours ago from UberTwitter

david has posted a new blog…

http://davidarchuletanetwork.ning.com/profiles/blogs/todays-blog-8

Hello to all! I’m sorry I haven’t made a blog for a while. I’ve been in the studio a lot doing writing and recording, and it’s been a lot of fun! Last week I got to work with Matt Squire and Victoria Horn, and this week I’ve been working with Daniel Bedingfield and Kina Grannis. They’re all really great and talented people! I can’t wait for you all to hear the songs that we’ve been working on heheh. But I’ve been loving the writing sessions!

While I’ve been working in LA, I’ve gotten to spend time with my aunt! It’s been a lot of fun getting to spend time with her and let her be a part of all of the things I’ve been doing down here. I haven’t gotten to spend this much time with her for years, so it’s always great to be with family and have good times. It’s been a hectic, busy week but we still manage to do some fun things here and there.

All right, so Monday while we were writing, Kina told me she was going to the Imogen Heap concert. I just about passed out! I have been wanting to see Imogen Heap for soooo long and she’s one of my favorite musicians! So I got tickets for me and my aunt and we got to go to Imogen’s show. It was AMAZING! it was fun to see how nervous Imogen was and she was just so genuine and quirky. And then her music and the way she loops cool sounds is incredible. I couldn’t get enough of it, and she kept going until midnight lol. I was exhausted but I was so happy to watch her. But anyway, you can never get enough of Imogen but you’ve probably had enough of my blabbing lol.

That’s all I have for right now! More writing today so I better head off. There are some fun things coming up this week that I’ll talk to you about next time! But until then I’ll talk to you later!

Song for the day: The Moment I Said It – Imogen Heap
This song really stood out to me when she performed it at the concert. SO good!

I think they should hold the concert in the Phillipines.

They need to flip a coin to see who goes first, second, and third, like they do in the NFL (and, in fact, did on Idol).

Jim got Sarvers’s CD.

I agree that the Friday the 13th Idol concert will not get a lot of media attention.

How about a Saturday the 13th Idol concert? Because that’s when it is.

‘ ¦..it will be just a night of homage to Kris with Adam and Allison on the sidelines.

And if it’s held in LA the will the night be a homage to Adam with Kris and Allison on the sidelines? Most likely.

I am not sure if having an Adam, Allison and Kris trio concert is such a good idea. Maybe for AI fans it will be but it will not bring in new people to appreciiate their albums. The AI fans already made up their minds which albums they will buy. i would much rather see them go dive into marketing their music to the specific niche where they need to develop and strengthen their market share.

If they add David Cook to the equation and have like a Three guys and a Babe concert that might be more interesting and even awesome . Allison is like one of the guys , and Adam will always be a Babe to me.

‘Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line’ 

hahaha, half-Sicilian here. (My mother calls that my non-Italian half.)

Does anyone have any more facial expressions than this kid?

http://www.krisallenofficial.com/sites/kallen6/files/imagecache/800×600/ka3_1920x1200.jpg

And if it’s held in LA the will the night be a homage to Adam with Kris and Allison on the sidelines? Most likely.

ditto on northern CA being an homage to Adam. This needs to be somewhere like Atlanta or Minneapolis or something to make it neutral territory for all 3.

It says 837 people from the Little Rock area have voted. That’s not exactly a whopping sum, is it? NYC area is next, with 796 votes, followed by L.A. with 632 votes

That’s all? The interest for this concert seems underwhelming.

I though Cali didn’t do homage?

837 POWER VOTERS!

Bet money if there was a choice to not hold this concert, Adam fans would vote for that in mass.

Having this concert in LittleRock just makes Allison and Adam opening acts for Kris. That is just so disgusting IMO as they are fighting to become stars on their own right now.

Even when Adam performs before Kris, he won’t look like an opening act. I was at the LR Idols Live! concert and Adam didn’t even look like an opening act for that — even though it was Kris’ home town concert and Kris got a huge welcome. So, I don’t know how they will stage this one, but if it is just by musically style and entertainer power — the best show would be Kris, Allison, Adam. Doubt it will happen, but Adam performed after Kris on the Summer GMA concert so who knows.

So have it in LA, have it in LR or have the concert on the moon — you just can’t make Adam look like an opening act for Kris.

It all reminds me of the great line from Dirty Dancing “Nobody puts baby in the corner.”

Best to have it in Milwakee. They don’t have a dog in this fight.

And isn’t that just so unfair. I understand that this is a 19M deal but still — Danny did come in third and should be there or they should not have held this concert. Personally, I vote for the should not have put this thing together in the first place. Totally braindead idea!

And isn’t that just so unfair. I understand that this is a 19M deal but still ‘” Danny did come in third and should be there or they should not have held this concert. Personally, I vote for the should not have put this thing together in the first place. Totally braindead idea!

And Danny is actually signed by one of the 19 labels as well.

My snarky self hopes for a Little Rock win just to be able to enjoy all the indignation that would ensue for days on end.

Maybe a concert with the Kradisons would hurt his country cred?
(sorry that was low… )

Kris decided to go to the Mat Kearney concert instead of the TV Guide Party. He had already had a full day of celebs.

TIger92 -Or Kris decided it would be weird to attend and honor Adam for ‘Hotly Anticipated Album’ . His PR people may have also recommended a ‘no-show’ .

I’m glad he got to have a relaxing night.

I have no idea why Kris didn’t do a drop by, but I think it was more important to go to Mat Kearney’s concert and show him some love. I’m still holding out hopes their collaboration shows up on some album or EP. Or better yet, they make it into a record together.

I also wouldn’t put it past his management and PR people to say thanks but no thanks. I was shocked that the only thing E!Online could think to ask him at the PC event was about Adam and Drake’s breakup.

And if it’s held in LA the will the night be a homage to Adam with Kris and Allison on the sidelines? Most likely.

This concert will not be an homage to anyone but 19.

And isn’t that just so unfair. I understand that this is a 19M deal but still ‘” Danny did come in third and should be there or they should not have held this concert. Personally, I vote for the should not have put this thing together in the first place. Totally braindead idea!

And Danny is actually signed by one of the 19 labels as well.

When will Danny’s album be out? I don’t think it’s unfair for Danny. He will probably still work for his album and won’t be ready for concert yet next Feb.

Nonetheless, I don’t understand your response. ‘The week they weren’t sold in.’  Huh? iTunes isn’t the only place that gets to report sales.

Tony: Sales (from everywhere) are reported from Monday to Monday.
I am talking about the sales from Friday, Oct. 30th-Sunday, Nov. 1st. Those sales simply don’t get rolled over or counted into the next week’s totals.
Until we get a number for them-they were unreported.

And isn’t that just so unfair. I understand that this is a 19M deal but still ‘” Danny did come in third and should be there or they should not have held this concert. Personally, I vote for the should not have put this thing together in the first place. Totally braindead idea!

And Danny is actually signed by one of the 19 labels as well.

I vote not to have it as well. Don’t really care for Danny but don’t think it is fair to leave him out. He had tons of fans on the tour. I actually enjoyed PYT and the Santana song. RF songs and the speech did me in but I enjoyed his first two. Also, I wouldn’t want Adam opening for Kris again. It was anticlimatic last time and it will be anticlimatic this time-especially with the two different sounds of their albums.

I’m starting to hope the concert is in Arkansas. Kris fans will get their win. And that’s what matters, doesn’t it?

This concert will not be an homage to anyone but 19.

THIS.

I sense a new front opening up in the fanwar. One piece of well-known advice: ‘Never get involved in a land war in Asia’ . But only slightly less well known is this: ‘Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line’ 

Not only are you awesome for being the numbers guru, but you also quote The Princess Bride. Win.

Wouldn’t the same sort of imbalance occur if the concert was in LA? Best to have it in Milwakee. They don’t have a dog in this fight.

Isn’t Danny Gokey from Milwaukee? Ooh, maybe he could be the “special guest”. His album will be ready to drop around that time. So he could get some promo. Heh. That would be funny.

saga
11/12/2009 at 3:57 pm
I though Cali didn’t do homage?

True dat.. Bien que nous soyons plutà ´t bien connus pour notre fromage !

Or did I read that wrong? Did you mean omage? *wink wink*

Dave at VFTW just gives his honest opinion about the albums regardless of how they treat an Idol contestant. Okay, I’m sure there’s some bias towards those who’ve been kind to the site (Ayala Brown, anyone?), but he did give a positive review to Blake’s first album, and he can’t stand Blake.

I guarantee you that Jim got Kris’s album in the mail. But how? Didn’t he per-order it? (KRIM for sure, tho I don’t get his hint.)

jambajim

# GASP! Just got a Kick Awesome CD in the mail. Hint hint. Jealous? 6 minutes ago from web

The clue is Kick Awesome = KA = Kris Allen

Kris decided to go to the Mat Kearney concert instead of the TV Guide Party. He had already had a full day of celebs.

TIger92 -Or Kris decided it would be weird to attend and honor Adam for ‘Hotly Anticipated Album’ . His PR people may have also recommended a ‘no-show’ .

I’m glad he got to have a relaxing night.

Who knows why Kris didn’t attend the TVGuide Hot Party. But I think it was better for him to skip it — and bet his PR people recommended he pass. It would have been very weird for Kris to go to an event where Adam gets the recognized for being “Hotly Anticipated” for his upcomig album.

@USATMediaLounge: You made it without us! ; )

Awww! That makes me smile !

5thandspring

Adam Lambert (American Idol) will be shooting his music video at the Alexandria on Sunday. Exterior & interior performance & playback. #dtla 25 minutes ago from Tweetie

Who can go?

Wouldn’t the same sort of imbalance occur if the concert was in LA?
Best to have it in Milwakee. They don’t have a dog in this fight.

NY! It’s not LR, it’s not CA (and I have friends in SoHo I can crash with and visit the museums, have great food and shop for a few days). It should totally be in NY, NY (the place so nice, they named it twice) so that it isn’t in any hometown and Sue can go and I can too.

See? all perfect reasons.

The Alexandria:

The opportunity has arrived to live in one of Downtown Los Angeles’ most notable landmarks, The Alexandria. Built in 1906, The Alexandria was designed by famed architect John Parkinson, whose other prominent projects include Los Angeles City Hall, the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, and Union Station. Recently the property underwent a major rehabilitation and was converted into affordable Micro-Loft ® residences with rents starting as low as $650/month, including gas/electric and free Internet.

Formerly one of the premier hotels in the country, The Alexandria played host to numerous Hollywood legends including Charlie Chaplin, Humphrey Bogart, Mae West, Rudolph Valentino, Clark Gable, and Greta Garbo. Winston Churchill and several U.S. Presidents, including William Taft, Woodrow Wilson, and Theodore Roosevelt, were also guests. For an attainable price you can now live in the same residence as these legendary celebrities and create your own history. Come experience the Downtown renaissance

Does anyone have any more facial expressions than this kid?

http://www.krisallenofficial.com/sites/kallen6/files/imagecache/800×600/ka3_1920×1200.jpg

So adorable!!!

NY! It’s not LR, it’s not CA (and I have friends in SoHo I can crash with and visit the museums, have great food and shop for a few days). It should totally be in NY, NY (the place so nice, they named it twice) so that it isn’t in any hometown and Sue can go and I can too.

See? all perfect reasons.I like the way you think, truthiness.

ETA:

5thandspring

@suebrody1 I have nothing to do with the video, I just saw the filming notification and realized it was at the Alexandria 4 minutes ago from web

DAMN. Oh, well.

Wait, there is an issue with Kris not going to the TV Guide party? Totally been sarvering this. But I think he wanted to go to a Mat Kearney concert, who he worked with and whose work he respects. Plus he had already done the PCA thing in the morning and isn’t a huge party guy. I mean, that’s what I always assumed.

And it’s not like it really is important or matters. I mean not like he missed the Grammys or something and he is going even to the AMAs in whatever capacity. I hope he’s presenting, he should.

erinnthered
11/12/2009 at 4:08 pm
Dave at VFTW just gives his honest opinion about the albums regardless of how they treat an Idol contestant. Okay, I’m sure there’s some bias towards those who’ve been kind to the site (Ayala Brown, anyone?), but he did give a positive review to Blake’s first album, and he can’t stand Blake.

Yep, and very objective. ((snicker))

“ditto on northern CA being an homage to Adam. This needs to be somewhere like Atlanta or Minneapolis or something to make it neutral territory for all 3.”

ok…how ’bout we all vote for Minneapolis!! Then anyone who wants to go can come stay with me!!

Wait, there is an issue with Kris not going to the TV Guide party? And it’s not like it really is important or matters. I mean not like he missed the Grammys or something and he is going even to the AMAs in whatever capacity. I hope he’s presenting, he should.

It wasn’t important to him because he wasn’t honored for anything. Had he been, it would have been not cool to be a no-show.

lakato
11/12/2009 at 4:24 pm
ditto on northern CA being an homage to Adam.

Adam is my favorite, but I lurve all three. Is it bad that I still want them to come here?

And now Carly Smithson weighs in, amusingly, about David Cook and USAToday:

BWAH! // RT @CarlySmithson: @thedavidcook Ur in a frickin crossword ? That is so you

Concert in Kansas City, with special guest appearance by Cook.

I think the special guest appearance should be Paula doing her lip-sync dance from the show last year.

and he is going even to the AMAs in whatever capacity. I hope he’s presenting, he should.

Truthiness, where did you see Kris was going?

I don’t think it was a big deal that Kris wasn’t there, but TVGuide tweeted that he and Adam were expected. So when he wasn’t there, some people (ONTD_AI) were a little disappointed. In the long run, doesn’t really matter. Cool he got to go to the Mat Kearney concert. What happened to the song? Bonus track for Target maybe?

Concert in Kansas City, with special guest appearance by Cook.

No. No. No.

We need to get fans outside of the bubble.

Concert in Vancouver, Canada. Special guest, Jason Bieber.

New piece of advice: Never go against a teen heart-throb with a $6.99 CD when rankings are on the line.

It’s going to be a bloodbath.

Ladyguard
11/12/2009 at 3:47 pm

Since I cannot edit my above post’ ¦.I will add to it. I see no benefit to Adam or Allison if this concert ends up in LittleRock and it will just emphasize why the whole idea was stupid. And yeah like Kris isn’t going to perform last in Little Rock’ ¦..it will be just a night of homage to Kris with Adam and Allison on the sidelines.

Well, last I looked, Kris did win. He is OUR (I say that obviously loosely) American Idol. I think he’d go last in this concert no matter where it is. I’m absolutely ok with him having a homage (or even an homage if you speak American english) in Little Rock. Honestly, I can’t even care that much. What is the problem here?

ETA: to LMAO at Kirsten’s $6.99 serial killer.

Ryan Seacrest is live on TMZ live now.

Truthiness, where did you see Kris was going?

He mentioned in some interview.

TVGuide tweeted that he and Adam were expected. So when he wasn’t there, some people (ONTD_AI) were a little disappointed.

More advice: Never put your trust in twitter since it is the devil.

“If some city/state didn’t see the concert and want to, they better get busy”

NY is in the lead…897

LR next..887

LA third…641

this was at 4:25 pm

I agree that the Friday the 13th Idol concert will not get a lot of media attention. And I don’t think that it will do much either way for Kris, Adam or Allison. By the time Feb. rolls around, the story of the debut albums will already be written, and is any of them does well, they will be touring ‘” hopefully.

What is the record company doing for the release day of the albums? Last year Archie had a big signing in NYC. David Cook had a label sponsored concert and signing at the Hard Rock in NYC. (Heh, I remember standing in line for hours in the cold to get a free ticket. And David sent doughnuts to those waiting in line. Wow did he look happy that night.)

“Concert in Vancouver, Canada.”

Now we’re talking. Kirsten, I’d drive up for that in a heartbeat and drop some coin in your fair city.

Don’t know if this should be considered a good thing or a bad one, but Kris made the “gossip”/celebrity sightings column here

Kris Allen enjoying an afternoon coffee with a male friend at West Hollywood hotspot Cafe Primo on Tuesday.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/11/12/pop-tarts-scene-herd-celebrity-sightings/

Don’t know if this should be considered a good thing or a bad one, but Kris made the ‘gossip’ /celebrity sightings column here

Kris Allen enjoying an afternoon coffee with a male friend at West Hollywood hotspot Cafe Primo on Tuesday.

Hey, they think that he’s interesting enough so that a mention of his name will appeal to readers. Nothing bad about that. Somebody may read his name and say, Hey, that reminds me; I meant to check out when Kris’s album is coming out…..

Adam is going to be shooting his music video for FYE on Sunday!

5thandspring

# Adam Lambert (American Idol) will be shooting his music video at the Alexandria on Sunday. Exterior & interior performance & playback. #dtla about 1 hour ago from Tweetie

(NOTE: this tweeter is NOT involved with the actual production of the MV itself)

Kris Allen enjoying an afternoon coffee with a male friend at West Hollywood hotspot Cafe Primo on Tuesday.

Ok, to me that just sounds all sorts of wrong in connotation

Good that he went to Kearny concert yesterday, but Kris needs to be on the public scene too in L.A. And it will be good for Katy too since she wants to become an actress; making contacts is important

The Alexandria used to be a hotel, but is now converted into residential lofts

http://www.thealexandria.net/

Adam is my favorite, but I lurve all three. Is it bad that I still want them to come here?

Like my husband said, if he got an opportunity to see his fave artist in concert, he wouldn’t care who else was performing, he’d be there!

I’d love to see all three as well, with Kris being my favorite.

lucy
11/12/2009 at 3:49 pm
(‘ ¦I wonder why Danny isn’t part of this, though, actually ‘ ¦)

I thought the reason Danny wasn’t part of the concert was because he isn’t managed by 19. Wouldn’t this be an event organized by the management company rather than the labels?

What is the record company doing for the release day of the albums? Last year Archie had a big signing in NYC. David Cook had a label sponsored concert and signing at the Hard Rock in NYC. (Heh, I remember standing in line for hours in the cold to get a free ticket. And David sent doughnuts to those waiting in line. Wow did he look happy that night.)

We learned about the release party/signing/concert on 11/3 last year so something should be announced soon if one is going to happen for anyone. That seriously kicked ass! The Virgin Megastore we had to buy the CD and line up for the wristbands is no longer there so they would have to use a different setup. I think if anything was happening for Kris surely we would have heard by now?

Reuters article/interview on Kris’ album

sitar?
international tour?

http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSTRE5AB52U20091112

What is the record company doing for the release day of the albums? Last year Archie had a big signing in NYC. David Cook had a label sponsored concert and signing at the Hard Rock in NYC. (Heh, I remember standing in line for hours the cold to get a free ticket. And David sent doughnuts to those waiting in line. Wow did he look happy that night.)

They have stuff lined up for them. Don’t worry about that. These record labels know their business. Fortunately, I have the insider info on this:

Nov 17: Kris to star busking outside the Starbucks in Hoboken
Nov 18: Kris will sell CDs out of the trunk of his car at a John Mayer concert in Cleveland. If you buy two copies, you get a bonus hug. Just look for the new Pruis.
Nov 19: Kris will be at the opening of a Chic-Fil-A restaurant in Alburquerque. Free CD with each sandwich for the first 100 patrons.
Nov 20: Kris to sing the National Anthem at a little league game in Omaha
Nov 21: Kris gets the day off (his concert at a nursing home in Wichita was cancelled do to an H1N1 scare)

Nov 23: Adam attends party for the “Hot New People In LA Who RSVP’ed Us” hosted by Better Homes and Gardens. Free Magazine and CD to the first 250 people in the door.
Nov 24: Adam will be chased by a TMZ camerman through the streets of West Hollywood. He will toss out CDs to put an end to that.
Nov 25: Adam will be at the opening of a MAC cosmetic store in Corpus Christi. Contest to see who gets a free make-over by Adam.
Nov 26: Dur! It’s Thanksgiving. He will go clubbing in SoHo
Nov 27: Day off due to expected hang-over and after following the American tradition of staying up until 5 am to get the best deals at Walmart.

Dec 1: Allison will be introduced for the first time to the marketing department of Jive.
Dec 2: Allison will spend the day tweeting to her followers (translations will be provided)
Dec 3: Allison has the day off because Jive ran out of ideas.
Dec 4: Allison will be singing at a furniture store.

Hey Cook fans. Did anyone see what USATMediaLounge’s twitter “bio” says:

* Name USATMediaLounge
* Location McLean VA
* Web http://www.usatod...
* Bio Brevity is our specialty! Newsy tweets from USA TODAY headquarters.

Amusing coincidence, huh?

Wow..this looks amazing.

Above, from Polar Inertia, the bizarre time warp of the Alexandria. Last renovated in the late 1960s, the outside still boasts the design cues of that era, including the red tile. Inside, though, the Alexandria Hotel is a favorite of filmmakers, thanks to features like its Palm Court, which boasts a Tiffany skylight and ornate ceiling (below, from the L.A. Times).

http://images.buzznet.com/assets/users8/drmikela/default/gallery-1116984836-msg-708-3.jpg

I doubt when they changed the rooms that they would have gotten rid of that ceiling. WOW..looks fantastic!

I am confused thought that The Alexandria Hotel was part of the historical society, Tried going back pages to find out exactly where this info was posted but of course I couldn’t find it.
I would go and it would be fun if the LA people on this blog all got together
Just need to know exactly where this is and what time on Sunday thanks

I thought the reason Danny wasn’t part of the concert was because he isn’t managed by 19. Wouldn’t this be an event organized by the management company rather than the labels?

Yeah, I think you’re probably right.

I guess it’s the Ryan connection that made me think that Danny would be a natural part of it — because when you put Ryan together with three Idols from the previous season, that sort of screams out — American Idol promotion! — to me. …
(or Sony Artist promotion!, at least, and Danny is also a Sony artist, like the other three. )

But I guess what Ryan more likely represents here is “pop radio.” So then it’s 19 plus pop radio. …. And since Danny is not managed by 19 and is not pop but country, that is why he’s the odd man out. … Makes sense… Momentarily it was very confusing to me, though!

Dec 1: Allison will be introduced for the first time to the marketing department of Jive.

LOL Are you sure this is a spoof? thanks for the laugh.

I have to go shopping on Sunday for something to wear to the AMAs. But I could always swing by the Alexandria later in the day to check out what’s going on. I would think there will be a lot of security and no one not connected with the shoot will be able to get anywhere near Adam, though.

Dec 1: Allison will be introduced for the first time to the marketing department of Jive.
Dec 2: Allison will spend the day tweeting to her followers (translations will be provided)
Dec 3: Allison has the day off because Jive ran out of ideas.
Dec 4: Allison will be singing at a furniture store.

Oh, crap, why does this sound like exactly what’s going to happen…. LOL, Kirsten. I think.

Concert in Kansas City, with special guest appearance by Cook.

YESSSSS!!! Finally a concert that I want to go here( not that thats going to happen) Sorry still bitter about Gaga not coming here and now this…..

kirsten, your album release schedules are hilarious

Dec 1: Allison will be introduced for the first time to the marketing department of Jive.

this…LOL

Kirsten – LOL!

That schedule is so good I can’t even pick my favorite from it.

Good thing you have inside info! LOL

TVGuide tweeted that he and Adam were expected. So when he wasn’t there, some people (ONTD_AI) were a little disappointed.

More advice: Never put your trust in twitter since it is the devil.

Well actually TV Guide didn’t Tweet that they would both be there, they Tweeted that both were invited. Very different.

So while Twitter remains the devil, until it’s my friend again and I love it for it’s cyberstalking ways, this isn’t one of those that it’s speaking in tongues.

LOL Kirsten. No parking cars for these three!

has anyone heard sitar on Kris album? geez it seems to me i would have noticed..

omg, a long article (Reuters) on Kris without one mention of Adam … it’s about time!!!!

Dec 1: Allison will be introduced for the first time to the marketing department of Jive.

Favorite line on the schedule – great job Kirsten!

And isn’t that just so unfair. I understand that this is a 19M deal but still ‘” Danny did come in third and should be there or they should not have held this concert.

Danny got an album deal. They need not have given that to him. Fair means absolutely nothing in the big bad world that isn’t named American Idol. I hardly see him crying in his beer. I really laugh at “fair” comments. Life isn’t, nor has it ever been, fair. You deal with what you get. I actually think Danny is doing that fairly well (contrary to what I may have thought prior to this week).

girlygirl
11/12/2009 at 4:47 pm
Reuters article/interview on Kris’ album

sitar?
international tour?

Cool story, a nice reminder of his Christian ties and missionary work. I didn’t listen to his album, is the sitar noticeable on any of the tracks? I hope Jive gives him his international tour. What are his numbers internationally, anyone know the itunes numbers?

* Bio Brevity is our specialty! Newsy tweets from USA TODAY headquarters.

Amusing coincidence, huh?

Most amusing, Sassycatz. Ah, the old days of arguing over word usage.

OMG, ha ha ha, Kirsten.

I have to go shopping on Sunday for something to wear to the AMAs. But I could always swing by the Alexandria later in the day to check out what’s going on. I would think there will be a lot of security and no one not connected with the shoot will be able to get anywhere near Adam, though.

Please, girlygirl!!! What are you going to wear? Any ideas? Just in case we see you on TU, we want to know what to look for!

Kirsten , you are hysterical! I read it twice and laughed harder the second time…where is Adam doing the makeovers? I want one.

SueBrody

Don’t have a clue. I own a grand total of 1 dress, and it’s a sundress. So now I have to go buy something, because evidently the AMAs aren’t casual dress attire, even for people sitting in the nosebleed seats, like I’ll be doing. I’ll likely post on here before heading out on that Sunday though…

and David sent doughnuts to those waiting in line. Wow did he look happy that night.)

Awww. Was that a whole year ago? Wow. I remember someone saying that David looked like he was glowing that night, he was so happy.

The USA (and Carly) twitters make me feel all warm and fuzzy.

David is coming to my town next week (yea!!) and there is a heeeyooge article in the Peoria Journal Star (same twitter questions that are on the online version). He got the entire front page of the Entertainment section, with a great picture, and more pics inside. It’s a keeper. Maroon 5, who will be playing the same theater the night before, got page 2. Hee.

1930′s Adam?

http://bit.ly/1a6bxG

Ok, so I lied. I know at some point many months back I said that I would be front of the line for the first concert Adam did after the tour (travel included). My lack of interest in this concert is truly spectacular. I’ll wait ’til he’s out the box.

And for those of you that are concerned about Adam having to go to Arkansas? He’s been there before remember? He got a whole lotta love everywhere he went on tour – his performance was amazing. He will be fine.

I do feel however that even though Adam tells us that he gets to have his say on everything – that perhaps TPTB did not listen to him on this one. I can’t imagine why he would want to step back in idol mode again.

Cool, girlygirl. Please keep us posted. You own one more dress than I do, but I had to buy a black skirt and top for my niece’s Bat Mitsvah, so I could wear that if I were going.

No casual attire, which rules out both plaid and skinny jeans.

Nov 27: Day off due to expected hang-over and after following the American tradition of staying up until 5 am to get the best deals at Walmart.

lol

He will be rubbing his face against his album case at Walmart

He’s going to be singing his bonus tracks in Japanese.

I would like a makeover as well.

Eileen99
11/12/2009 at 4:02 pm

My snarky self hopes for a Little Rock win just to be able to enjoy all the indignation that would ensue for days on end.

You are truly Evil. I understand teh snark impulse. But all the drama llamas would have me hiding from the internets for days. Granted I’d probably be very productive in my RL but I like being a slothful peruser of the internet.

mama2dasha
11/12/2009 at 5:14 pm

1930′s Adam?

http://bit.ly/1a6bxG

Interesting concept for the music video for FYE! I am so glad the video will be made this weekend. Cannot even wait to see what Adam and his team come up with! When do you think it will be released? After the AMA performance?

“As for the future, the singer said he hopes to go back on the road — on an international tour.

“I have always wanted to go to Australia,” he said. “I’ve been to a lot of places, but I never have been there.” [ from the Reuters Interview]

Kris – we have the red carpet rolled up ready to open when you give the word that you will be coming to Australia. We’ll give you a real Aussie welcome then!!
Only thing is- can you have a little word to your marketing people about getting your music played down here – no i-Tunes yet & no word when the album will be available [ I've pre-ordered mine through US Amazon!!]
I’m hoping I get a nice surprise & your album is available soon as yesterday the new Switchfoot Album came onto i-Tunes & the single was made available the same day!!!!

I would think the video release would coincide with the AMAs and album drop, but I don’t know how long it takes in post-production. This is so not what I expected. Of course. It’s Adam.

So: what’s this about?

Jim C

“Did this Clay Aiken CD come out before or after he turned into a catty old bitch about @adamlambert?” – @adamcmurphy. Quote of the day.

You can read in this old thread a little at DCO the rankings as soon the pre-order went up on 10/21. It got to #6 by the first night, then the next day 3, then by Thursday it reached #2 so it actually got higher and higher as the days went on.

Thanks, it’s interesting to go back to some of those old threads. Just so I’m understanding this correctly …

For David Cook:

Album went for pre-order at Amazon on 5/30/08.
Album went for pre-order at iTunes on 10/21/08.
Single Light On went on sale at iTunes on 9/30-Tues (or 10/1/08-Wed?)

Thus, for at least 3 weeks, the only way you could buy LO was to download it from iTunes (or perhaps Amazon, etc.) and all those singles counted at single sales on the iTunes charts (or total sales combined with Amazon, etc.)

In comparison, for Adam:

Single fye went on sale on 10/30/08-Fri at AO only.
Deluxe album with extras (not available anywhere else) went for pre-order on 10/30/08-Fri at AO only.
Single fye went on sale at Amazon on 11/03-Tues
Single fye went on sale (and album went for pre-order) at iTunes on 11/04-Wed (early morning or late 11/03 night?)

Thus, for Adam, the first time the single was available, it was bundled with a new deluxe version of the album. When one bought the album, one immediately received the single for download. None of those downloaded singles, which were part of album sales, were counted as single sales (as I understand it).

Plus, as I understand it, the reporting periods go from 12:01am Monday to Sunday. IF AO reported any “single sales,” they would have reported only those occurring after three days of prior sales and only the non-album sales. And, there was a shortened week from an iTunes perspective (i.e. starting Wednesday), and some major technical difficulties which also may have hindered sales.

Adam made it to the #10 position on the iTunes album charts overall, #1 on Pop. Would he have made it to the #1 spot if all those deluxe albums being sold at AO had been included. We’ll never know. According to the reported numbers, 18,000 copies of his single were sold last week. What would that number have been if all those singles embedded in album sales had been reported, plus the single sales from Friday to Sunday, plus there had been unimpaired iTunes availability at least for a full week? We’ll never know.

I don’t want to take anything away from David Cook. He deserves every bit of success he has. But the fact is there are a number of unknowns here and cetain key variables are different. So, it’s almost impossible to try to compare the way things have been rolled out this year to the way they were rolled out last year. It’s truly like comparing apples to oranges.

Sorry to be so lengthy and I’m sure someone will correct a minor point here or there. But the gist of this – that the album sales on AO had a major impact on iTunes charting and single sales in general – remains the same.

Did anyone ever post the video here where David surprised the audience by going up into the balcony to sing during Declaration?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WcAWh3VK8s

It really amazes me how uninterested I am in a concert with adam, kris and allison. I already saw them in concert. It was the AI8 tour.

jms
11/12/2009 at 5:33 pm
It really amazes me how uninterested I am in a concert with adam, kris and allison. I already saw them in concert. It was the AI8 tour.

I’m with you on this jms. I saw them *three times* in concert already. I’m waiting for Adam’s solo tour this time. I want him all by himself and for more than 20 minutes.

Wait, that didn’t come out right. I meant SINGING of course.

It really amazes me how uninterested I am in a concert with adam, kris and allison. I already saw them in concert. It was the AI8 tour.

I’m not sure what the big deal is about this concert. It’s just one concert in February, right? By then, they will have all performed without other Idols a number of times and be off to perform again without other Idols. DC and DA did their Manila concert together and it was nothing but a blast to watch, even stateside.

My snarky self hopes for a Little Rock win just to be able to enjoy all the indignation that would ensue for days on end

Well I’ve said I will enjoy it for my personal amusement factor. But I suspect my amusement factors on this one, will be very different from yours.

But now it seems NY is in the lead and for one of the few times in my life, I must root for NY! (still boo hiss about the WS though, sorry)

But now it seems NY is in the lead and for one of the few times in my life, I must root for NY! (still boo hiss about the WS though, sorry)

Lets Go NYC!!!!! I want to see Adam live again (and woo hoo Yankees Win!)

It really amazes me how uninterested I am in a concert with adam, kris and allison. I already saw them in concert. It was the AI8 tour.

Me too- as soon as I saw Adam in concert I just thought I wouldn’t be able to wait until I didn’t have to sit through the other ones. I am sure Kris and Allison fans feel the same way- I don’t think it is just an Adam thing.

The good news is that they aren’t going to tour together- it’s just one night, no harm, no foul.

Did anyone ever post the video here where David surprised the audience by going up into the balcony to sing during Declaration?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WcAWh3VK8s

lol, I wish he had done that at *my* concert

It’s so funny. Two women high-five each other after he sings behind them.

mama2dasha
11/12/2009 at 5:14 pm

1930′s Adam?

http://bit.ly/1a6bxG

Interesting concept for the music video for FYE! I am so glad the video will be made this weekend. Cannot even wait to see what Adam and his team come up with! When do you think it will be released? After the AMA performance?

I am partially quoting myself here, because I meant to add that I am not too fond of greasy hair product Adam. I hope it would be just for the video and he would do something more modern for the AMA’s. He wants to appeal to a younger audience and I am not sure this look would do it.

If it’s in NYC and ppl wear Yankees caps, it could get ugly. Just sayin’, as a proud member of Red Sox Nation. MJ understands…

(I voted for NYC today, b/c it ain’t gonna be in Boston or the outlying areas, tho it’s doing pretty well at last check.)

NY for the win! Close enough to me so I could go to the concert. I would think a major city would be more publicity for the idols.

So regarding that Reuters article, what the hell is Kris talking about sitars as being part of his album? Because no. I love sitars. I mean I grew up Hindu and listening to The Beatles, and one of my first movies I ever saw was Yellow Submarine on the Berkley campus with my mom when I was 2. So dude, I’m all about the sitars, but there aren’t any on this album I can hear. Unless they overprocessed them so that they are to sitars what fish is to lutefisk.

None of Adam’s live performances have ever disappointed me. I am sure he and his team are going to present a spectacular show for both the music video and the AMA performance.

mama2dasha
11/12/2009 at 5:14 pm

1930′s Adam?

http://bit.ly/1a6bxG

Isn’t that a really old picture? She’s in the Zodiac show days, isn’t she?

I *think* a sitar may have been used in Before We Come Undone.

It really amazes me how uninterested I am in a concert with adam, kris and allison. I already saw them in concert. It was the AI8 tour.

if i could i would go since it’s no more AI8 stuff but their own now!

If it’s in NYC and ppl wear Yankees caps, it could get ugly.

The guys seem to wear those caps more in the winter than the summer so be prepared. Best to keep off the subways too.

In general, are album release parties held before or after the album actually drops? Kris and Adam will both be in NYC the night their album is released (in order to do their separate GMA concerts), so I can’t see the parties — if there even will be one — coming on the days of the actual releases

Lets Go NYC!!!!! I want to see Adam live again…

NY for the win! Close enough to me so I could go to the concert.

Yup, NY metro area for me, too. Just contacted my nephew in college to get the word out to his friends. He’s a big Adam fan and went to two of three AI Live concerts with me this summer.

Someone on twitter is saying that according to EW, Adam Lambert’s pre-orders are the highest ever for an Idol.

edit: Nov 20 issue, pg 17

1930′s Adam?

http://bit.ly/1a6bxG

Isn’t that a really old picture? She’s in the Zodiac show days, isn’t she?

That is an old picture.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/2009/11/11/2009-11-11_steven_tyler_is_not_leaving_aerosmith_so_dont_get_all_excited__that_means_you_ad.html

LOL, this headline made me laugh!! Yay for Aerosmith not breaking up!! Double LOL at this line by Steven Tyler:

“I just want New York to know I’m not leaving Aerosmith,” Tyler told the crowd. “And Joe Perry, you are a man of many colors, but I, motherf–ker, am a rainbow!”

Someone on twitter is saying that according to EW, Adam Lambert’s pre-orders are the highest ever for an Idol.

I read about that in a thread in IDF. Not sure how reliable it’s tho.

The guys seem to wear those caps more in the winter than the summer so be prepared. Best to keep off the subways too.

Hee hee. I will also not wear my Red Sox sweatshirt.

The site that “leaked the snippets”:

hitpredictor: A big thx 2 all the @adamlambert fans who have bn rating his new music at HitPredictor! Who else do U guys luv?
8 minutes ago from

Um. Is that a serious question?

In general, are album release parties held before or after the album actually drops? Kris and Adam will both be in NYC the night their album is released (in order to do their separate GMA concerts), so I can’t see the parties ‘” if there even will be one ‘” coming on the days of the actual releases

David’s was on the actual day of his release in NYC. It coincided with all the NY promo he had. He did all his media and press in the day and later that evening was his concert and CD signing.

It was pretty fun rating music! I got to listen to KOL’s Crawl (which I hate, I have the album) and Tik Tok and some other crap.

I read about that in a thread in IDF. Not sure how reliable it’s tho.

I thought the same thing and edited my post for the source. They gave page # and issue date, but I don’t have mag to verify. Perhaps a screen shot will pop up.

http://idolforums.com/index.php?s=bd432045adebcbea3d7f119c43983881&showtopic=632659

That’s a long time poster on IDF saying she saw in EW magazine- latest issue with New Moon on cover- that ADAM has the most sales on Amazon by an idol alumn.

I just checked my mail- no EW yet to verify- anyone else?

And how would EW know that? Is it a rumour they are picking up or do they have a source? I am learning to be really careful about sales talk (and it’s pretty boring too).

It really amazes me how uninterested I am in a concert with adam, kris and allison. I already saw them in concert. It was the AI8 tour.

I’m really interested in knowing truthfully how Adam feels about this concert. If he is going into it with “wow, this is going to be fun”, then I am all for it. Otherwise, I totally agree that we are so ready to move on!

That’s a long time poster on IDF saying she saw in EW magazine- latest issue with New Moon on cover- that ADAM has the most sales on Amazon by an idol alumn.

I just checked my mail- no EW yet to verify- anyone else?

Nothing. I don’t get EW till Fridays, so I don’t know. It’s not on the EW.com website and I get email from EW–nothing there, either.

I guess it’s possible…

Just poppin’ in to say that the EW article said that an AMAZON.COM REPRESENTATIVE told EW that information about the most presales by an AI alum ever!

And how would EW know that? Is it a rumour they are picking up or do they have a source? I am learning to be really careful about sales talk (and it’s pretty boring too)

She said that an amazon representative informed EW. I believe Holly, she is an old time poster. She may be mistaken, but she is not inventing news.

Yeah Sue- I don’t get it until tomorrow too, but she said what page it is on and everything. She also said there is a similar article in RS.

I don’t doubt Holly, I was just questioning the EW source… but it seems to be from Amazon so ok. SuBo will beat everyone regarding Amazon pre sales anyway

Maybe people don’t want to be caught with her album in the local record store?

People Magazine gave a pretty good review of Kris’s CD, it was 2 and a half stars out of 4 stars! She said lots of good things, but I don’t think she listened to his last song very well, which was FULL of emotion!

The reviewer: Jessica Herndon

On the self-titled debut from the reigning AI Kris Allen, the pop rock hooks can be as engaging as his heartthrob looks. Indeed, he makes you melt effortlessly crooning those sweet mid and high notes on the sweeping ‘BWCU’ .

But there’s something calculated about it all. When he sings about ‘trying to be perfect, trying not to let you down’  on The Truth, he falls short of displaying real emotion.

Still Allen shows promise as a songwriter and his cover of Kanye’s ‘Heartless’  is R&B pop turned delicious soft rock.

Download ‘Is It Over’  a wistful, slow-winding ballad.

I’m really interested in knowing truthfully how Adam feels about this concert.

I would expect that if it is in LA, it’ll be just like another day in the office. If it’s in NYC he’ll prob see his brother and his theater friends, and a possible trip to the RS offices. Any other place, a chore. Both Kris and Allison are in LA, so he doesn’t need to perform with them to see them.

saga- I think Clay Aiken and David Cook were on the top 10 list of best sellers on Amazon a few weeks ago- Adam must have surpassed them both since then.

And just to clarify- this is AMAZON only. But if he is in the top 10 of all time, that is friggen AWESOME.

This is the list of top 10 Amazon PRE- SALES- David was #8 and Clay was #10

http://mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=124234

Oh, and another thing- since Adam’s digital single did not do as well on Amazon as the album seems to be doing, this MIGHT be an indicator for Itunes also. Maybe he is just going to sell more albums- especially physical CD’s. Just a thought.

Btw, does anyone know when Adams album will be for sale on European itunes? I wanna get the bonus tracks too…