Idol Headlines for 1/11/08

That’s a lot of articles you have for us, MJ. I’ll have to wait until later to check them out, especially that one about Daughtry’s new album. :smile1_tb:

Simon in USA Today:

“I don’t think the people last year were as good as they should have been. It was a miracle that we stayed as successful as we did. I will predict ratings will be up a minimum of 10% on last year for the whole season.”

Wow. He’s getting even more specific with the blame. Maybe Simon could tell us who picked those people? And maybe he can tell us why the producers couldn’t do anything to make them look any better. Choose better themes. Find something interesting to say about them. You know. Do their job. Sell them? “A miricale that we stayed as successful as we did”. It’s a miracle karma doesn’t kick him in the butt.

From the Gibson Article about Chris D.

Chris does his songwriting on guitar, but says, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“For me the guitar is just a writing tool. Letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s talk about diminished scales. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know a damn thing about à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢em. I know a blues and E-minor pentatonic scale, and thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s as far as I needed to go.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

I had to laugh at this one. I’ve read criticism on music sites where they griped about Chris only writing songs in the E-minor scale and I thought “How do they know?”. Gah! It’s now been confirmed. True musicians are amazing on how they can pick up on this stuff. The way they can hear a song once and play it back. The way they can say “What key do you want to sing it in?” and then just convert all the notes in their heads.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Oddly enough, this year all felt very natural, like it was meant to happen,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Chris says. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“The whole Idol thing is what felt weird for me because that was obviously something I wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t used to. I wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t used to singing everybody elseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s songs. I wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t used to not having a band behind me.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

LOL. There was a band behind him. Didn’t he ever turn around? There was a HUGE band behind him. Sometimes, members of the band came out and stood right next to him. Chris says the strangest things. I know he probably meant something else, but I have visions of him returning into AI and bumping into Rickey Minor at the craft table and saying “Oh, are you new? I was once on this show you know.” I could write Chris dialogue all day. He just keeps serving up these great quotes.

“We put millions behind Katharine. Many of us at the label still love her songs. But we’re in the major leagues. We didn’t think she could break into the mainstream. We would rather be honest.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2008/01/11/2008-01-
11_katharine_mcphee_voted_off_by_rca.html

There’s also some new quotes about Taylor.
Interesting, that they’re admitting to spending millions. What a disaster for their bottom line. They probably spent more $ on her than Taylor.

On a more positive note, Elliott’s Xmas CD was the number 1 Holiday CD on the BB Holiday chart last week outselling Josh Groban. I’d say both of Elliott’s albums together probably cost less to produce than one crappy song that didn’t make Kat’s album.

I found the article for you jpfan

Katharine McPhee voted off by RCA

They also said something about Taylor Hicks:

“The same thing with Taylor Hicks (above, left). We didn’t want to shove any songs down his throat. We wanted to make an album in the style he was comfortable with. We mutually agreed that he’d work on an album [on his own], we’d listen, and we’d see where we go from there. There’s no acrimony.”

Thanks for the good link. Interesting stuff.

Without ‘American Idol’ and record label, what’s next for Taylor Hicks?
Posted by Mary Colurso January 11, 2008 5:00 AM

What a difference a verb makes.

Dropped. Split. Left. Went different ways. Asked to be released from a contract.

This week, “American Idol” watchers have been buzzing about Birmingham’s Taylor Hicks, the 2006 winner who’s no longer signed to J/Arista Records.

Rumors about changes in the Hoover native’s recording deal have been circulating for months, mostly among the hardcore faithful in his fan club, the Soul Patrol. They care greatly about everything Hicks does or says — from his record sales to his golf score — and they take pride in tracking and revealing even the tiniest facts.
The latest news item was big, however.

CLICK THIS LINK FOR THE REST

We put millions behind Katharine. Many of us at the label still love her songs.

If they still love those songs, that’s their first mistake right there. Sometimes I think these record labels exemplify that definition of insanity — doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results. If Kat’s album didn’t sell, the execs need to stop scratching their heads and going “but “Open Toes” was OMG so cute!” Instead they just dropped her, which was the easier route. I would imagine they still have the option to resign her, though, if she turns out to be a hit in movies.

Interesting to get a bit more info on Taylor, though.

From JPFAN’s post above (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2008/01/11/2008-01-
11_katharine_mcphee_voted_off_by_rca.html)

“The same thing with Taylor Hicks. We didn’t want to shove any songs down his throat. We wanted to make an album in the style he was comfortable with. We mutually agreed that he’d work on an album [on his own], we’d listen, and we’d see where we go from there. There’s no acrimony.”
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Are they serious????
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And though she was signed nearly three years ago, execs at BMG’s Arista label are still looking forward to Jennifer Hudson’s album, due out in May or June. “We understood that her appearance in ‘Dreamgirls’ would only make her a bigger star,” says the exec. (Indeed, it won her an Oscar.) “We are always willing to be patient with people who have the goods.”
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What arrogant, self-serving bastards! (imo)

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“The same thing with Taylor Hicks. We didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want to shove any songs down his throat. We wanted to make an album in the style he was comfortable with. We mutually agreed that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d work on an album [on his own], weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d listen, and weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d see where we go from there. Thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s no acrimony.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

That’s Clive Davis and his goons for you.

LET’s TRANSLATE THE ABOVE INTO SOMETHING WE ALL UNDERSTAND :

In effect they’re saying — let him take the risk, if it fails, we won’t have anything to do with it, if it succeeds, we’d like to take a piece of the pie.

Heads you win, tails you lose. SWINE !

It’s the music business and business is lousy right now. I think Taylor got a better quote from the label that Kat did. Anyway, they’re both famous and have opportunities to show the world how talented they are. I don’t get why being on a reality show means they get treated differently than any other artists. And making deals that make sense for business doesn’t make the suits swine. Although putting millions in McPhee makes them stupid.

I’m no music industry exec, but her marketing was like 90% based on her looks and 10% based on her actual music. It seems to me that a lot of successful and good-looking pop tartlets actually do start with the music first, then play up their looks later. I think to an extent the public resents being told “buy this album because the singer is pretty” — but if you already like the music, then it doesn’t really matter what the artist looks like; you don’t feel like the label is trying to dupe or trick you into buying a shoddy product. That’s my two cents. Anyway, as with all Idols, I hope Kat gets the chance to do the kind of music she wants to do, once she actually figures out what it is.

Kat always reminded me of one of those starlets that are supposed to become stars. The studio puts them in alot of movies and they just don’t connect. There’s just something missing. I kinda doubt she’ll make it in movies either. Anyway, Idol gave her fame and she’ll have more opportunities to do her music thing (whatever that is.)

And making deals that make sense for business doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make the suits swine.

I have to agree. Business will die if they don’t make some money. Artistic businesses are always tricky, but they still do have to turn a profit at the end of the day.

Sure, it seems that Taylor is taking all the financial risk on producing this album, but he also has all the freedom which may be worth something to him (and maybe his fans). He doesn’t have to get label approval for the producer, the songwriters, the songs, the production studios, etc. At the end of the day, if Sony/BMG doesn’t like the result, it sounds like he can shop it around or release it himself (instead of having the masters buried in the basement somewhere). He isn’t being forced to record covers of 80s love songs. He may get to create something great, middling or a complete piece of carp, but the ball in his court.

Sure, he would make more money per unit if he releases this album by himself, but I still think that there is something the labels can do for you. Certainly, their distribution wings can get your albums into stores which is the first big part of selling. I think it shows a shadow of promise that Sony/BMG is willing to let it be known that there is no acrimony and that they would be willing to entertain some sort of relationship in the future (unlike the big old slammed door they seem to have done with Kat…I wonder what brought that on? Labels are rarely so blunt. They tend to like to be vaguely positive. Less likely to get sued that way. The Sony/BMG insiders are being very chatty these days).

It will be interesting to see what the future holds. I wouldn’t count anybody out. Jennifer Hudson had disappeared into the hinterlands of cruiseships and I would never have thought she’d re-appear, but here she is back and starring in every other movie (who even thought of movies for her back when she was all dressed in pink?). So, good luck to all of them. May their fans get the albums they have always wanted.

Kat always reminded me of one of those starlets that are supposed to become stars.

In today’s world, all you need is natural good looks, you don’t really need musical talent. Technology can make you a pop star and make up for your lack of talent.

See here for instance just as a reminder.

Having said that, I believe that Kat has BOTH the looks and the talent. That needs to be “exploited” ( note the quotes ) by the right promoter.

Taylor could have probably sold more CDs had they actually had them on the shelves! (Weren’t at my Wal-Marts after initial stocking.)

Kat definitely has the talent and the looks. She just needs to find the right musical direction.

That’s also great news for Taylor and Ruben, who in contrast know exactly who they are musically.

I’m pinning high hopes on Taylor’s album. but I fell in love with him as a performer and that is enough to hold my attention even if he never hits that recording groove. There are five songs he has written in the past that prove he can play in the big leagues, but will be under a lot of scrutiny with his next release. I’d like to see “Somehow” end up on the next album.

I actually really liked a lot of the music on Katharine’s CD, but the songs themselves weren’t “career” songs that were so strong on their own that they would have been hits no matter who sang them. This left the duty of selling the songs on Katharine herself, and that’s where the problem lay. She had no personality in her vocals at all. In her videos she looked uncomfortable and unconvincing. When you’re trying to compete in the same market as Christina Aguilera, Pink, and Gwen Stefani, that’s a death knell. The only thing that’s surprising to me is that RCA gave up so quickly.

I doubt that Katharine will ever become a big singing star in any genre (should she ever figure out who she is – something else I doubt). I think she would be very happy to be a C-list actress in bit parts here and there and have babies with Nick Cokas for the rest of her life.

So, I gather from this news that we’ve been reading about Kat and Taylor that Taylor, after he finished his materials is free to shop his new CD around to any place he chooses, including J Records, and see who gives him the best offer ?

That’s what it’s sounding like to me…

Kirsten
Jan 11th, 2008 at 9:46 am
I found the article for you jpfan

Katharine McPhee voted off by RCA

They also said something about Taylor Hicks:

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“The same thing with Taylor Hicks (above, left). We didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want to shove any songs down his throat. We wanted to make an album in the style he was comfortable with. We mutually agreed that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d work on an album [on his own], weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d listen, and weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d see where we go from there. Thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s no acrimony.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

This really chaps me. You know, this makes the SECOND article about McPhee that the label has revealed more about Taylor that could have possibly warded off some of those “Taylor Hicks was DROPPED by the Label – the loser” headlines he got hundreds of, and is STILL getting, while her headlines have for the most part, been much softer and kinder – hinting that ‘she’ dropped RCA instead. And look what the label revealed about why she is no longer with them.

Chrissey58
Jan 11th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Taylor could have probably sold more CDs had they actually had them on the shelves! (Werenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t at my Wal-Marts after initial stocking.)

Word.

So, I gather from this news that weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve been reading about Kat and Taylor that Taylor, after he finished his materials is free to shop his new CD around to any place he chooses, including J Records, and see who gives him the best offer ?

If BMG has smart lawyers, which I’m willing to bet they do, then J Records has the right of first refusal on Taylor’s new CD.

And making deals that make sense for business doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make the suits swine.

Exactly. And Kirsten word to your enite post at 11:14. I would also like to add that about a year ago some Kat fans were flaming me for saying that the label spent a crap load of money on Kat and her producers, looks like I was right.

Sounds like you guys haven’t listened to the songs on Taylor’s myspace player: The Maze and Heaven Knows (both recorded from his Live DVD Womp @ the Warfield) — check them out would love to hear your comments. :clap_tb:

http://myspace.com/taylorhicks

So nice to hear Katharine McPhee lost her recording contract at RCA. This just proves my point that she only got to the finals of AI Season 5 because of her looks. Daughtry should have won and Elliott should have been runner up. Enough said.

Oh sweet Lord.

Who should have won? The contestant who got the most votes. Viewers vote for the person who appeals to them at the moment, for whatever reason. It’s not a “vote for the person who will sell the most records” contest. As if that sort of thing is even predictable…

Yah, you just look back and remember the look on Kat’s face when they said Chris was going home. She was as shocked as Chris—and America. It’s great he has sold millions of CDs and she couldn’t even sell 400000.

CNN has put up a video to go along with all the Idol’s being dropped news…It has Carrie and Bo interviews in it…Mainly Bo’s point of view of the whole “being dropped” issue. I think it’s a good watch, so here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYJZbVU0vME

RE: Jen-Hud. The rumor has been circulating for a while that her album was completed and presented and then trashed and burned. She had to start over. She’s got the best writers in the business, but somehow Clive didn’t like the finished product. That’s only gossip.

People are willing to go to obscene lengths to obtain Hannah Montana concert tickets, too. It hardly proves that Hannah Montana is the most talented recording artist in the country.

From George Huff’s Myspace bulletin:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii3/TunstallManagement/EdysIcecreamPromotion.jpg

“Here With Me” a song from George’s upcoming release has been chosen to be on a FREE CD available February thru May!

Edy’s/Dreyer’s Ice Cream is teaming up with 8 American Idol finalists from the past 6 seasons to offer fans one sweet deal!

When you buy 2 Slow Churned Ice Cream products you get a FREE CD compilation of some of your favorite American Idol finalists.

Look for an indoor display or on freezer doors at national & regional grocery chains near you!

P.S. We’ll be adding the song very soon to George’s Myspace–so stay tuned!!!

Katharine McPhee and Hannah Montana are in two completely different leagues. Montana has a hit showand a soldout string of concerts. McPhee should be so lucky. Face it, her 15 min. of fame are just about up—didn’t even last 2 years on the scene.

We’ll see how her movie does–but I expect it to be a flop just like her CD was.

Goodbye and good riddance Katharine. America does not like you.

IDOLIDOL, I wasn’t trying to compare Kat (who is NOT one of my favorites) with HM in terms of talent — I was arguing against the implicit point you made that the artist who sells the most albums should have won, presumably because they have the most talent.

But it’s interesting to bring up that HM has a hit tour. Raise your hand if you think it’s because she’s an amazing singing talent.

I don’t know why Kat never connected with a wider audience. I know what I personally think of her, but of course the general public doesn’t follow the idols the way we here at MJ’s do

All I am saying is Daughtry was robbed. He should have won Idol hands down.

But he got the last laugh. Other contestants that season like Elliott Yamin, Kellie Pickler and Bucky Covington have also sold very well, especially Yamin, who has a lucrative deal with his label and stands to make far more than many of the other American Idols.

And then there’s the winner and runner-up who were BOTH dropped by the record label due to lack of sales.

All I am saying is Daughtry was robbed.

Yeah, I feel sorry for the guy. Life’s been hard. LOL

What happens during the show appears to have little or no bearing on what happens afterward, rendering the “x should have won” arguments pointless.

But you know? The season 5 20/20 hindsight dance has been done to death around these parts. Talk about beating a dead horse…

Goodbye and good riddance Katharine. America does not like you.

As a foreigner, I would just like to say that it is very helpful when one person speaks for the entire nation. It leads to far less confusion. I was previously labouring under the misguided impression that America was a nation of individuals with varied thought.

I do not say goodbye or good riddance to Katharine. Although I am not a fan of her CD and most of her music, she has had performances I have enjoyed and I know that she has many fans that like her. No skin off my nose if she continues to make music for her fans. Nobody forces me to buy or listen to music I don’t like (I’m lightening fast at hitting the radio buttons in my car), so I don’t begrudge others the music/artists they enjoy.

Yah, you just look back and remember the look on Katà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s face when they said Chris was going home. She was as shocked as Chrisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ and America.

Only 10% of Americans even watch AI. That means 90% of Americans were probably not shocked. They probably met it with a collective yawn. After two years, most people have probably forgotten all about it. Life goes on.

LMAO! Brilliant, as usual, Kirsten!

Goodbye and good riddance Katharine. America does not like you.

I LOVE Katharine Mcphee, and I know TONS of Americans who love her too. That statement is ludacris.

Just because RCA says they spent “millions” on Katharine doesn’t mean they did. They are being very defensive because they are getting complaints that they did not back Katharine, and that’s what they retorted with, I love how parts of the article are just being left out, like the part that says how RCA heard that they were getting blamed for Katharine not being bigger. They are just defending themselves. IMO They made a huge mistake, and I hope they come to realize it someday.

Just because RCA says they spent à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“millionsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  on Katharine doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean they did.

Kat had two videos and a host of famous songwriters/producers on her album — some of whom did not even get their songs on the final cut. Ryan Leslie, Danjahands or whatever his silly little nickname is — those people don’t come for free, and I doubt they volunteered their services out of the goodness of their hearts because they were in awe of Katharine’s unmatched musical prowess and just wanted the honor of working with her. And to top it off, nary a day went by for a long time that I couldn’t walk into a grocery store and see her neary unhinged maw on a magazine cover.

Katharine’s CD was very well promoted and spawned a hit single. I don’t celebrate the fact that she is no longer with RCA (nor do I shed a tear, but I do feel for her fans), but IMO it’s disingenuous to say that Katharine’s failure to catch fire was for lack of adequate promotion.

They made a huge mistake, and I hope they come to realize it someday.

Someone made a mistake selling her as the next Britney/Ashlee/whoever instead of the next Madeleine Peyroux, that’s for damn sure. But I haven’t forgotten that it was Katharine herself who fought tooth and nail to get “Open Toes” ONTO her album, not off of it. So, as with Taylor, the question as to which parts of her album were the label’s idea and which parts were hers remains open, I think. Besides, maybe she got the same RoFR deal that Taylor got.

I could go on about who actually is doing better and compare them to others ike the EAgles ,Taylor swift or why and why not..I am just tired and already graduated from gradeschool. The people will listen to thier music…and have moved on or do not give a rats butt about a contest contestant. I hear even ESPN moved on about Romo now it is Jessica Simpson ruining his game.

Thier a very few bands that stand the test of time and I do not think any of thecontestnts are the next Rolling Stones.Which amazes me that thier still preforming. Kieth Richards was great in the Pirates movie.

Kat had two videos and a host of famous songwriters/producers on her album à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  some of whom did not even get their songs on the final cut. Ryan Leslie, Danjahands or whatever his silly little nickname is à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  those people donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t come for free, and I doubt they volunteered their services gratis out of the goodness of their hearts because they were in awe of Katharineà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s unmatched musical prowess and just wanted the honor of working with her. And to top it off, nary a day went by for a long time that I couldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t walk into a grocery store and see her neary unhinged maw on a magazine cover.

I don’t really want to argue about this, I know Season 5 is over and all of that, and I know you hate her, and that’s fine, but a lot of that money wasn’t spent by RCA, but was provided by Kat’s management. I’m not saying that RCA didn’t invest a lot in her, I’m sure they did, but the way they spoke in that press release just sounded bitter and mean to me, and it was after the fact that they heard they were being blamed. That’s all I’m saying.

RCA also had nothing to do with those magazine covers, she was asked by the magazine to do all of those, and the Big Sexy Hair line too. I think by not being a Kat fan you or anyone for that matter don’t know a lot of the things she’s been asked to do, or just things she has done in general.

I just really hope the best for her, she’s so talented. It will be heartbreaking if she becomes another “Idol Failure” :sad_tb:

I know she has other things going on with acting and modeling, but I love her voice and I would hate for it to go to waste, I would just hate it. :cry_tb:

Kirsten, maybe you can answer this for us?

2) In Canada, “American Idol” is called:

A) “The Jerry Lewis Telethon”

B) “Canadian Idol”

C) “Chappy Chanukah”

D) “Canada Dry”

The great ‘American Idol’ quiz

Will The South Rise Again on ‘American Idol Season 7′? ‘Yes’ Said 40% of Southern Idol Viewers Surveyed vs. ‘No’ From 38% of Northern Viewers

Why have contestants from Southern states dominated on “American Idol” for six seasons? Will the trend continue in season 7, launching Jan. 15?

earthtimes.org

I for one am happy that Daughtry is working on a sophomore album, which I will definitely buy when it comes out.

Although I would count myself among the “shocked Americans” when Chris got what felt like the premature boot from the show, it is hard to feel bad for the guy now or wish anything had happened differently.

As we’ve seen over the past couple of years, there is little to no connection between winning Idol and selling lots of records. The winners get the most votes because they capture viewers’ imaginations and inspire them to vote. The people who sell the most records are the ones who fit what people have an appetite for hearing on the radio.

I’m hoping Season 7 has another rocker (or pop-rocker) for me.

de;eted

From USA Today:

Worst mentor:
Simon: Peter Noone

Dude! Let it go. Simon never forgets a diss. He’s like an elephant. 40 to 50 years from now when Simon and Peter are wheeling around the old folks home for British Has Beens of the Recording Industry, Simon is going to grab the last bowl of orange jello just to get his revenge on Peter. He probably won’t even eat it. He’ll just drop it on the floor. You go Peter! You’re happy go lucky. The vanilla pudding will taste just as sweet.

For the record, I thought the British Invasion week was one of the high points of last year. Lots of variety in the songs, mentors that were enthusiastic about helping the contestants, and lots of memorable performances. Here’s hoping for good theme nights this year (any spoilers for those?)

Idol reflections: Six years of rhythm and remembrance (included the link since there are so many today)

well said CarieB!!!!
I couldn’t agree more!

Worst performance by a finalist:
Simon: Sanjaya Malakar, You Really Got Me
Paula: Clay Aiken, Saturday Night’s Alright for Fighting; LaKisha Jones, Stayin’ Alive.

Clay didn’t ever sing that song.

New York Post daily update: Story about Kat being dropped is much bigger than the one Taylor got plus a nice picture but not as big as the one Ruben got. For what that’s worth. Headline is “Third Idol bites dust”

The only thing that would get me involved in Idol this year are really great themes. Maybe they can get The Eagles and have an Eagles night. That would be fun.

I’m hoping AI7 has a “real” rocker.

I would like to see them shamelessly cross promote NGAB and have the Clark Brothers and Sixwire on.

:lol_tb: Nola!

Well I got so intrigued by all the conversation here in the last few days that I actually got off the pot and wrote a blog entry about it. It was nice to be back at the keyboard

HaHa…Gotta love the Mcphans, I just found this on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQqVJP99pp0

HaHaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Gotta love the Mcphans, I just found this on youtube.

Wow, I really didn’t need that many closeups of Kat’s boobs and nostrils.

Jersey, I’m with you!!!!

Nola! :innocent2_tb:

Although I would count myself among the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“shocked Americansà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  when Chris got what felt like the premature boot from the show, it is hard to feel bad for the guy now or wish anything had happened differently.

Amen, sista from anotha motha. I sure as hell can’t complain about the way the past year or so has gone.

Why wasnt kellie pickler listed along with Clives idols still under contract?

Nanny, I thought that was a very clever video. I can’t believe Taylor’s fans haven’t done that as they make a videos about everything.(I am a Taylor fan so no diss intended) I’ve always said she should have had David Foster as her producer and her album would have highlighted her strengths. He would help her learn how to connect to the song, which I feel is sometimes lacking now. She definitely can sing, just not teeny pop.

Taylor Swift , next country super star ???? Lord help us all. I saw her perform ( and I use that term loosely) this past summer and my ears bled , the audience was actually booing because she was sooooo bad. She looks like she’s been permanently trapped in “pageant tot land” and she flat out can’t sing.

Why wasnt kellie pickler listed along with Clives idols still under contract?

I’d bet a small fortune that she’s not getting dropped. She started out slowly, but she just passed Taylor in sales. I think her label prolly sees her as someone who has outgrown her initial fanbase.

As for a *real* rocker, LOL. I think Bo and Daughtry both count. I’m not so much a fan Daughtry’s type of rock, but it’s still rock. I guess Bon Jovi thinks so. Of course, in some circles Bon Jovi isn’t “real” rock, so I guess a definition of rock isn’t something we can all agree on. Some say Metallica sold out with the Black Album and that’s the one I find appealing. YMMV.

I would love to see someone like the late Joey Ramone on the Idol stage. Now THAT would be entertaining, to say the least. In fact, I will vote for anyone for the full two hours if they do “Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue.” Contestants, if you are lurking, take note.

Worst performance by a finalist:
Simon: Sanjaya Malakar, You Really Got Me
Paula: Clay Aiken, Saturday Nightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Alright for Fighting; LaKisha Jones, Stayinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ Alive.

Clay didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t ever sing that song.

Yeah, that confused me too….Paula, are you okay?

Cricket, I so agree with you on Taylor Swift. The girl CANNOT sing at all. I saw her on a couple of TV shows and I had to wonder, are these people deaf? I guess she is popular with the country HSM age kids, and with them it doesn’t matter if she can sing or not, she’s cute and I guess that’s all that counts. She was on an awards show where she performed, horribly, then won an award. People were applauding, it was surreal.

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scout7
Jan 11th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Cricket, I so agree with you on Taylor Swift. The girl CANNOT sing at all. I saw her on a couple of TV shows and I had to wonder, are these people deaf? I guess she is popular with the country HSM age kids, and with them it doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t matter if she can sing or not, sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s cute and I guess thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all that counts. She was on an awards show where she performed, horribly, then won an award. People were applauding, it was surreal.

scout and cricket …I am so glad to hear that others thought that about Swift. I have seen her sing several times and each time I thought…this girl cannot sing live, she must be a product of the recording studio. I see how many CDs she has sold and I just shake my head. It helps that country is a hot genre, right now.

Taylor Swift is country’s answer to Avril Lavigne. Only taller and prettier. It worked.

“I would love to see someone like the late Joey Ramone on the Idol stage. Now THAT would be entertaining, to say the least.”

That would be very entertaining! But I bet those who say they want a “real rocker” would just say “he sucks and he screams, he screams and he sucks” lol