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		<title>By: gabilan</title>
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		<dc:creator>gabilan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tinawina: The original question was &#039;Why did David Cook&#039;s Light On get so much grief even though it went to top 20 on pop?&#039; 

My answer was in response to that.

I did not say I felt that way or that it was the right way to feel. All I said was that popular, hyped idol contestants often have high expectations attached to their debut. From the idol fans/blogs and the media. Call it the Carrie/Daughtry effect. And that there will be grumbling if they don&#039;t have big hits out the gate. I didn&#039;t say it was fair.

Now if you want to argue against that way of thinking fine, but don&#039;t direct it at me because I didn&#039;t invent it. LOL.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh I wasn&#039;t directing anything at you and I didn&#039;t conclude from your post that your thinking went along those lines. I was asking a legitimate question about idol fans/blogs versus what I would consider normal, non-invested people. 

I&#039;m not really a fan of Idol. Actually I barely tolerate this cheesy show and am not a consistent viewer (2.1 seasons total I think) so I don&#039;t quite get the Carrie/Daughtry effect thing. I think Kirsten was saying in the Media thread today that Daughtry&#039;s success was a surprise because he was booted early?

Anyway, I guess I don&#039;t see that the public-at-large pays too much attention to exactly how a former Idol&#039;s debut song charts. Many people I know have stopped watching Idol completely. Don&#039;t know about the media wrt Idol debuts and expectations; do many people pay much attention to the Entertainment Media anymore? Did David Cook get grief outside the Idol bubble of fans/blogs/idolmedia?

Sorry for rambling; can&#039;t seem to express myself coherently this morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tinawina: The original question was &#8216;Why did David Cook&#8217;s Light On get so much grief even though it went to top 20 on pop?&#8217; </p>
<p>My answer was in response to that.</p>
<p>I did not say I felt that way or that it was the right way to feel. All I said was that popular, hyped idol contestants often have high expectations attached to their debut. From the idol fans/blogs and the media. Call it the Carrie/Daughtry effect. And that there will be grumbling if they don&#8217;t have big hits out the gate. I didn&#8217;t say it was fair.</p>
<p>Now if you want to argue against that way of thinking fine, but don&#8217;t direct it at me because I didn&#8217;t invent it. LOL.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh I wasn&#8217;t directing anything at you and I didn&#8217;t conclude from your post that your thinking went along those lines. I was asking a legitimate question about idol fans/blogs versus what I would consider normal, non-invested people. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not really a fan of Idol. Actually I barely tolerate this cheesy show and am not a consistent viewer (2.1 seasons total I think) so I don&#8217;t quite get the Carrie/Daughtry effect thing. I think Kirsten was saying in the Media thread today that Daughtry&#8217;s success was a surprise because he was booted early?</p>
<p>Anyway, I guess I don&#8217;t see that the public-at-large pays too much attention to exactly how a former Idol&#8217;s debut song charts. Many people I know have stopped watching Idol completely. Don&#8217;t know about the media wrt Idol debuts and expectations; do many people pay much attention to the Entertainment Media anymore? Did David Cook get grief outside the Idol bubble of fans/blogs/idolmedia?</p>
<p>Sorry for rambling; can&#8217;t seem to express myself coherently this morning.</p>
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		<title>By: dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>happygolucky 
11/09/2009 at 6:50 am 
Let it Rain &#039;â€œ Kris Allen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ68RyiqqQE


THANK YOU!!!! Love it! Gaah! =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>happygolucky<br />
11/09/2009 at 6:50 am<br />
Let it Rain &#8216;â€œ Kris Allen</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ68RyiqqQE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ68RyiqqQE</a></p>
<p>THANK YOU!!!! Love it! Gaah! =D</p>
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		<title>By: carmine2008</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;because some of us are just so over Kradison.

I feel that Adam fans support the other two but it never works the other way around.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m a Kris uber fan. And I am waiting for Adam&#039;s album as well. I also notice that most Allison fans are Adam fans as well (and vice versa).

Also, I still don&#039;t get the connection between being over Kradison and implying that some people are going to benefit more from this event. I see no correlation. But, whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>because some of us are just so over Kradison.</p>
<p>I feel that Adam fans support the other two but it never works the other way around.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m a Kris uber fan. And I am waiting for Adam&#8217;s album as well. I also notice that most Allison fans are Adam fans as well (and vice versa).</p>
<p>Also, I still don&#8217;t get the connection between being over Kradison and implying that some people are going to benefit more from this event. I see no correlation. But, whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: GaGaGlambert</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaGaGlambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If it&#039;s anywhere around NY or New England I will be there. I sat through a whole Idol concert just for a 20 minute show so.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;anywhere near Boston, such as NH, RI CT even NYC &#039;â€œ I&#039;m there. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
	
I&#039;m there, too. Love Adam, but thoroughly enjoyed Kris this summer and always intended to see them both when they toured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If it&#8217;s anywhere around NY or New England I will be there. I sat through a whole Idol concert just for a 20 minute show so.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>anywhere near Boston, such as NH, RI CT even NYC &#8216;â€œ I&#8217;m there. </p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m there, too. Love Adam, but thoroughly enjoyed Kris this summer and always intended to see them both when they toured.</p>
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		<title>By: TwigLA</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot wait for the live stream of Kris Allen&#039;s album. Where is it already? I can&#039;t even find it listed on popeater, aol music, or aol radio. 

Thank you all for posting the tweets and news from Live In The VIneyard and the link to &#039;Let It Rain&#039;. I&#039;m loving it!

I hate KISS, but I went ahead and voted for Los Angeles. Total votes so far - 38! Not exactly earthshaking and LA is #2 in vote getters? LOL

From what others have said, there are more acts than just Kris, Adam, and Allison booked for this free concert. I also expected a quite different picture when someone said that Adam was UP FRONT with Kris and Allison in the background. It&#039;s just their faces left to right and from a visual standpoint, it makes sense for the lightest one (and winner) to be in the middle.

February makes sense for a concert. They and other acts are booked through December and they all need some down and personal time off after a very hectic year.

February is also when Kris plans on kicking off his solo tour. The personal dynamics between these three as individuals is fun to watch and overall, it seems like they do share fanbases despite the impression people might get from OTT fanwars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot wait for the live stream of Kris Allen&#8217;s album. Where is it already? I can&#8217;t even find it listed on popeater, aol music, or aol radio. </p>
<p>Thank you all for posting the tweets and news from Live In The VIneyard and the link to &#8216;Let It Rain&#8217;. I&#8217;m loving it!</p>
<p>I hate KISS, but I went ahead and voted for Los Angeles. Total votes so far &#8211; 38! Not exactly earthshaking and LA is #2 in vote getters? LOL</p>
<p>From what others have said, there are more acts than just Kris, Adam, and Allison booked for this free concert. I also expected a quite different picture when someone said that Adam was UP FRONT with Kris and Allison in the background. It&#8217;s just their faces left to right and from a visual standpoint, it makes sense for the lightest one (and winner) to be in the middle.</p>
<p>February makes sense for a concert. They and other acts are booked through December and they all need some down and personal time off after a very hectic year.</p>
<p>February is also when Kris plans on kicking off his solo tour. The personal dynamics between these three as individuals is fun to watch and overall, it seems like they do share fanbases despite the impression people might get from OTT fanwars.</p>
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		<title>By: nina.t</title>
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		<dc:creator>nina.t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people should apparently overcome their negativity addiction. Why is that so bad if they go on tour together and staff like that ?! Uncontrary, that is a great news. This  three people represent more than just the top three ( o yes they are !!) but a lot more than that. Hope and love and equality and friendship etc. If Kradison can get along with each other i don&#039;t understand why their fans can&#039;t ? I would go to see them if i was in US, o yeah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people should apparently overcome their negativity addiction. Why is that so bad if they go on tour together and staff like that ?! Uncontrary, that is a great news. This  three people represent more than just the top three ( o yes they are !!) but a lot more than that. Hope and love and equality and friendship etc. If Kradison can get along with each other i don&#8217;t understand why their fans can&#8217;t ? I would go to see them if i was in US, o yeah.</p>
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		<title>By: becausehelives</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s good publicity for them and they are probably excited about the idea since they are very close friends. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t see anyone outside the same old idol bubble going for this. so it&#039;s publicity that they already have. it wld be better publicity if they each opened for a bigger act some where else far from one another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s good publicity for them and they are probably excited about the idea since they are very close friends. </p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t see anyone outside the same old idol bubble going for this. so it&#8217;s publicity that they already have. it wld be better publicity if they each opened for a bigger act some where else far from one another.</p>
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		<title>By: merrymary</title>
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		<dc:creator>merrymary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want a Kradison concert!! I&#039;d love to see the 3 of them together again :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want a Kradison concert!! I&#8217;d love to see the 3 of them together again <img src='http://3888.voxcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sidewalkstory</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>new thread for Kradison</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>new thread for Kradison</p>
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		<title>By: wellhesback</title>
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		<dc:creator>wellhesback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good short review of Cookie&#039;s concert last night.  a longer review is coming
http://musicblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/11/we-were-there-david-cook-at-th.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good short review of Cookie&#8217;s concert last night.  a longer review is coming<br />
<a href="http://musicblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/11/we-were-there-david-cook-at-th.html" rel="nofollow">http://musicblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/11/we-were-there-david-cook-at-th.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: clearone</title>
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		<dc:creator>clearone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As for Danny, he;&#039;s not managed by 19, and this concert was probably the brainchild of the 19 management folks

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Like I said before, Danny is the lucky one.  This concert is going to do nothing to promote any of their careers outside the Idol bubble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As for Danny, he;&#8217;s not managed by 19, and this concert was probably the brainchild of the 19 management folks</p>
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<p>Like I said before, Danny is the lucky one.  This concert is going to do nothing to promote any of their careers outside the Idol bubble.</p>
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		<title>By: boredinschool</title>
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		<dc:creator>boredinschool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

Since nobody else seems to want this concert, could you all do me a favour and vote for the concert to be in Vancouver, BC?

I want to see them try to scramble to find a freakin&#039; venue to host the darn thing during the middle of the Olympics. Hee!

Forget trying to get a hotel room. They&#039;ll probably have to tent it next to Molson Canada house in the GM Place parking lot. I just want to see what happens. LOL.
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LOL That would be awesome.  And that&#039;s close to me ;)
But you&#039;re right!  Although we might get some funny pictures of Kris and Adam near Olympic Athletes.</description>
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<p>Since nobody else seems to want this concert, could you all do me a favour and vote for the concert to be in Vancouver, BC?</p>
<p>I want to see them try to scramble to find a freakin&#8217; venue to host the darn thing during the middle of the Olympics. Hee!</p>
<p>Forget trying to get a hotel room. They&#8217;ll probably have to tent it next to Molson Canada house in the GM Place parking lot. I just want to see what happens. LOL.
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<p>LOL That would be awesome.  And that&#8217;s close to me <img src='http://3888.voxcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
But you&#8217;re right!  Although we might get some funny pictures of Kris and Adam near Olympic Athletes.</p>
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		<title>By: clearone</title>
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		<dc:creator>clearone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I feel that Adam fans support the other two &lt;strong&gt;but it never works the other way around.&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have to disagree.  I know several people who are Kris fans but also support Adam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I feel that Adam fans support the other two <strong>but it never works the other way around.</strong></p>
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<p>I have to disagree.  I know several people who are Kris fans but also support Adam.</p>
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		<title>By: gulfluv</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha, girlygirl, we must think alike!  I hadn&#039;t read your post but I said about the same thing :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha, girlygirl, we must think alike!  I hadn&#8217;t read your post but I said about the same thing <img src='http://3888.voxcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: gulfluv</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh, I for one, love these 2 bro&#039;s and a sis, and would LOVE to be at this concert.  I voted for my area, but we have no chance of winning.  I would SO love to see my 3 favorite former idols all in one night!  I think they will have a blast doing this too.  It&#039;s just a one-off concert, not like they are touring together again.  I think it&#039;s cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh, I for one, love these 2 bro&#8217;s and a sis, and would LOVE to be at this concert.  I voted for my area, but we have no chance of winning.  I would SO love to see my 3 favorite former idols all in one night!  I think they will have a blast doing this too.  It&#8217;s just a one-off concert, not like they are touring together again.  I think it&#8217;s cool.</p>
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