Idol Headlines for 11/07/09

I posted this in the wrong thread – so here’s a wonderful vid from David Cook’s concert last night. They were in Oklahoma & his intro focuses on his bandmates who are from the area. Then he generously gives the song over to Andy Skib.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_hHrHohDoQ

Oh – and Cookie’s last tweet “Thank you, Shawnee. Great to see so many friends. FYI the surprises have not been unveiled yet.” means there must be more surprises besides his new tattoo

People tend to sometimes not listen to a whole album these days. They put together their own play lists so I wanted to treat it like an eclectic collection of things that had me at the middle of it.’ 

Smart guy, that Adam.

I had almost forgotten, another day of Jedward, huzzah! And yes, Ghostbusters, perfect. But again, it’s not as much fun when they’re in on the joke, and no amount of lulz will take away from their lack of ability to actually sing.

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X-Factor song
Not surprised that Olly is the bookies favourite to win, though he is so very Taylor like to me, which is fine, but so funny that Simon is okay with that on this show. His choice this week should play right into that by doing Twist and Shout from one of my favourite films, "Ferris Bueller's Day Off." (sads about Hughes death, another icon of my youth gone).
I can’t believe they get to sing a Prince song, considering what an utter wanker he can be about that (and indeed many things). Am not looking forward to Danyl mauling it.

Joe’s performance will no doubt be another treacly mess. Stacey will probably bore me. Lucie might though as well, because as much as I love Disney, I don’t enjoy people singing it on these shows. Well, we’ll see.>

People tend to sometimes not listen to a whole album these days. They put together their own play lists so I wanted to treat it like an eclectic collection of things that had me at the middle of it.’ 

That is exactly what it is – my ipod on shuffle but still all Adam.

Why do I love the first article from Business Wire? They call Kris:

this extraordinary new artist.’ 

Made me smile, because imo he is!! Also, they mention “Before We Come Undone” and “Bring It Back”, both co-writes of Kris instead of the two he didn’t co-write. (Of course the also mention LLWD since it’s his single.)

Oh well, it’s the little things…:D

grrr. First comment got eaten.

Anyhew, Jedward’s doing Ghostbusters is right in their wheelhouse of being, at this point, deliberately ridiculous. Which their being in on it, takes away from some of the lulz. And no amount of lulz is going to make them able to actually sing.

X-Factor songs for this week

It doesn’t surprise me that at this point Olly is favoured to win. I think he could, he certainly is one of the only ones that has some singing ability and some stage presence. Plus he’s good looking enough to get the votes/attention for that as well. I like him, but he’s so Taylor like and it continually amuses me that Simon is totally okay with that on this show. Olly’s doing “Twist and Shout,” from one of my favourite movies, “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off,” certainly will add to the Taylor factor.

Joe will no doubt do another treacly number to the very sacchrine “Circle Of Life.” And Danyl will no doubt maul “Purple Rain.” Guess Simon is done trying to have Danyl do songs that stood Adam in good stead and instead has moved on to what worked last year on the show. Stacey will no doubt bore me with her attempt at Soul/Funk. Lucie could be interesting, she was last week, but a Disney song doesn’t sound promising. I love Disney, but not on these shows.

Damn I really LOVE Alisan Porters “end song”. Listened to Adams snippets today again and I think I’ll like strut. I have to agree with FHS that I wished he would have added a rocked out hard guitar track.

wellhesback, that was pretty darn awesome!!!!! Thanks for sharing!

Cohen gives me a kinda “hurt, almost passive aggressive vibe” when he “compliments” Kris, and I certainly don’t like him saying Kris and Ruben weren’t as good as Adam or Clay (Well, Adam over Kris I can understand with many Adam fans, but that toss-in about Clay wasn’t necessary). Mostly because I was a big fan of Ruben and I hated Clay’s style.

Kinda makes me wonder if his career will only be remembered as “the guy who beat Adam Lambert”. It makes me sad. But at least some Adam fans have been giving Kris some really good reviews (like Lyndsey Parker, she actually seems to love Kris too now).

I also agree with FHS that he should’ve done a hard rock track. Heck, I would’ve liked FYE better if it had more of a rock sound.

Olly was on Deal or No Deal back in 2007. He won £10 Though the presenter, Noel, did say he thought Olly would do well in his future, whatever that may be.

Maybe he was prophetising.

Love the DC interview. Especially this answer to the question about the new album and whether it is a popular question:

It seems to be. We started writing for one. We just finished sound-checking a new song. We’ll see if we can add that in soon.

He soundchecked a new song at the Phoenix concert and nobody knew what it was, we knew it was not a cover and it sounded like a DC song. I can not wait until they play it.

New trailer for 2012. From those awesome people over at Planet Fierce:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2NVyD9UJec

Cohen has never got Kris, and hated him for beating Adam, still hates him for beating Adam, as evidenced by the fact that he starts out his review complaining about how Kris beat Adam. But a strange thing then starts to happen. He actually found himself liking a lot on Kris’s album. And actually praises his songwriting, going so far as to say that all of the highlights on the album were songs Kris was involved in writing. Heck, he even calls Alright With Me “McCartney-esque,” which is something I’ve said about it (I’ve called it early Beatles-esque, like a fun, McCartnney pop tune), which I’m sure is something Kris would absolutely love to see written about something he wrote.

I think this is going to end up being a well-reviewed album for Kris.

Kinda makes me wonder if his career will only be remembered as ‘the guy who beat Adam Lambert’ .

omg jammasta, no worry about that!! Kris is so talented that he stands on his own and the competition issue will just fade away in the ligth of them being both successful in their own way

New trailer for 2012. From those awesome people over at Planet Fierce:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2NVyD9UJec

I’m going to see it the weekend after it opens, I hate seeing movies in the opening weekend.

Wow, the edit feature does not like me today.

Just wanted to add that I’m loving the reviews of Kris’s video as well. The Rock Editor for MTV who reviewed the video, James Montgomery, really gushed about it. In his video with Jim Cantiello, he even gave props to Jim C. for being right about how the song was going to be a smash hit.

I think the video really does its job. I’ve really liked LLWD, and thought it was a good song, but I’ve never LOVED it. After watching the video a few times, I now absolutely LOVE the song.

Lucie could be interesting, she was last week, but a Disney song doesn’t sound promising. I love Disney, but not on these shows.

Even without knowing the song, I’m practically ready to crown it the strongest song choice here (I’ll take that back if she sings “Under The Sea”, though). Again, most of these choices are just ongoing crimes against humanity really poor. Either they’re out of the contestants’ abilities (I’m going to be really surprised if Jamie pulls out a good version of Unchained Melody, considering that it’s such a hard song to sing and he has trouble with any singing that doesn’t require projection), they’re limiting the contestants too much (Olly has so much of a kind of camp vibe alreadly; was Twist and Shout really necessary?), or are just uninspired.

I think this is going to end up being a well-reviewed album for Kris.

washpd,
oh yes, getting praised by someone who was that bitter about his victory means that Cohen is professional when it comes to music review. He reviews objectively what he listen to. I love what i heard so far of this album and thinks it may end up as one of the best post idol one.

I think this is going to end up being a well-reviewed album for Kris.

Crossing my fingers over here, especially because that seems to be what he wants, more than just overwhelming commercial success. I’m not making myself believe it will be (considering it’s a 19E product created so quickly), but if it does rate well, I’ll be more than thrilled.

it shows that Jamie is under Simon. Sometimes when it comes to song choices, he is so not original. And i don’t think it’s a good choice for Jamie

Either they’re out of the contestants’ abilities (I’m going to be really surprised if Jamie pulls out a good version of Unchained Melody, considering that it’s such a hard song to sing and he has trouble with any singing that doesn’t require projection)

I seriously doubt that Jamie has the vocal abilities for Unchained Melody as well. Agreed, it’s not an easy song and Jamie’s voice is just too weak for it. As much as Clay gets dissed, as far as these kinds of shows go, I really did like his version of Unchained Melody. I think that Unchained Melody is one of Simon’s favourite songs, IIRC.

Oh and I don’t know if Lucie’s picking a Disney song will be the best, see, Circle Of Life for utter treacle.

The only songs I see with any value is “Purple Rain,” but no way will Danyl be able to do it justice, and “Son Of A Preacher Man,” but no way will Stacey be able to do it justice.

That AOL exclusives for Kris sounds great. Am glad that he’s also getting an AOL Sessions, since he didn’t get a WalMart Sound Check.

I really enjoyed the AOL Sessons that The Davids did last year. The interviews were great, but more importantly, I liked the ‘live’ versions of their album. Good stuff. Can hardly believe it’s been a year.

Wonder if Allison or Adam will get any AOL Sessions as well??

I was at David Foster and Friends concert in San Jose last night. I knew Ruben was going to perform but I didn’t expect Clay Aiken to be there as an audience (being David Foster’s bro-in-law). Clay was asked to sing impromptu and he sang Unchained Melody. That was totally unexpected seeing both Ruben and Clay perform last night. Ruben and Clay’s performances were the highlights of the show for me (including Charice’s amazing set).

Found this video from Twitter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrDzZE5Ttvs

LOL.. Spock/Kirk ship video set to Adam’s FYE. I guess their ship name would be Spirk? The alternative might be too risque, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r16dttxqj-A

Cute video of the “O School” dancing to FYE – possible future AMA moves??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jctnmDniRg

That was a cool Clay performance – I liked the high note toward the end on ‘need’

Okay- I am calling it- Adam’s FYE is either going to start a dance craze or have the most submissions for dances on Youtube. Another one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH4pMO5J2Ms

Cute video of the ‘O School’  dancing to FYE ‘“ possible future AMA moves??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jctnmDniRg

The one in the shorts must be the choreography – I liked the last group the best.

Cute video of the ‘O School’  dancing to FYE ‘“ possible future AMA moves??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jctnmDniRg

That was great cindy! LOVED some of the moves, especially the swirl followed by the knee sweaping. The lead guy there is really good.

Sue should tweet this to Adam

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Okay- I am calling it- Adam’s FYE is either going to start a dance craze or have the most submissions for dances on Youtube. Another one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH4pMO5J2Ms
#

The choreography is good, but his movements are not fluid enough.

Cindy M- I think this is the one you wanted to post Kirk/Spock- the one you had was a baby bouncing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r16dttxqj-A

Squirrely- I know- I am just getting a kick out of all the FYE videos already.

saga
11/07/2009 at 12:01 pm
Cute video of the ‘O School’  dancing to FYE ‘“ possible future AMA moves??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jctnmDniRg

That was great cindy! LOVED some of the moves, especially the swirl followed by the knee sweaping. The lead guy there is really good.

Sue should tweet this to Adam

Eh, who needs Sue, I just tweeted it to him..LOL

Here’s part 1 of an interesting new Adam interview: http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/entertainment/entertainment/view/20091107-234867/Flamboyant-Idol-likes-to-make-fans-feel-sexy

The way things are happening for Kris is not how I would have planned it out. However, I could not be more pleased with how things are going for him. I am so happy with the how legitimate he seems to be coming across, because that’s exactly how I see him and why I loved the quote from the Business Wire. I actually don’t care if people forget that he was the one to beat Adam Lambert, but combining that fact with the music he’s putting out just increases his legitimacy, imho. (Of course this is all based on the album being as great as I think it’s going to be. )

I think it did hurt Howard Cohen to end up saying the good things he did about Kris’s album, but (qualifying here) perhaps if he didn’t his rep. might be questioned? Or maybe he’s just a somewhat fair guy who is able to give, begrudgingly, kudos when deserved.

And yes, I’m leaving room in all I’ve said to just simply be an all wet, OTT fan.

That was a cool Clay performance ‘“ I liked the high note toward the end on ‘need’

I actually thought that Clay had a pretty good voice, he just didn’t do anything interesting with it post AI.

Wonder if Allison or Adam will get any AOL Sessions as well??

I haven’t heard anything about that, I hope so. And if last year’s were cool with the David’s, then I am looking forward to this with Kris this year.

Have to watch that again and again Take 2 is awesome….now i’m really excited for AMAs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jctnmDniRg

Thanks Studio57, I amended my post!

Eh, who needs Sue, I just tweeted it to him..LOL

Who needs Sue when we have you!

Oh and I don’t know if Lucie’s picking a Disney song will be the best, see, Circle Of Life for utter treacle.

It probably will be utter treacle, but, assuming it’s within her abilities (she’s had basically good choices on that count, IMO, or at least better than her counterparts), and it’s not “Circle of Life”, it can’t be worse, can it? (Ok, as I noted, it can. But considering how awful the others are, either in terms of fit or general choice, it’ll be an interesting feat to see if that somehow gets worse)

The only songs I see with any value is ‘Purple Rain,’  but no way will Danyl be able to do it justice, and ‘Son Of A Preacher Man,’  but no way will Stacey be able to do it justice.

Right. Again, good songs, but I just don’t see either contestant being able to pull it off at all.

Here’s part 1 of an interesting new Adam interview: http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/entertainment/entertainment/view/20091107-234867/Flamboyant-Idol-likes-to-make-fans-feel-sexy

I recommend this article, it was really interesting. He commented on his androgynos look, which I for the record don’t think he is going for, not in the traditional sense.

mickeybordentwo
11/07/2009 at 12:10 pm
Here’s part 1 of an interesting new Adam interview: http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/entertainment/entertainment/view/20091107-234867/Flamboyant-Idol-likes-to-make-fans-feel-sexy

Thanks mickeybordentwo, great article. Adam is so lucky to have the parents he has, so understanding and supportive. Essential, especially for those kids who are “different” in some way. Love this from that article:

‘I do have great parents,’  he said. ‘My father is teacher-oriented. He was very much guiding me through. I always felt weird and kind of out of place. I remember my father from my early age going, ‘It’s okay. When you’re older, everybody is going to want to be your friend, trust me. The weird ones are the ones that everybody wants to be like when they’re older.’ I really enjoyed hearing that as a kid. He gave me a little tip. He was like, ‘Hold on, just hold on. It will all work out. It will all fall into place. People will understand you later.’ So that gave me a lot of confidence, being like a strange kid. And my mom is just as supportive.’ 

What a wonderful family, warms my heart.

In history of idol, the ones who’ve had the most success afterwards are the ones who stayed true to the sound they represented on the show. For example, Ruben was Luther 2.0 on the show and then put out a more ‘urban-flavored’ cd. By that logic, I think Kris will be just fine.

I seriously doubt that Jamie has the vocal abilities for Unchained Melody as well. Agreed, it’s not an easy song and Jamie’s voice is just too weak for it. As much as Clay gets dissed, as far as these kinds of shows go, I really did like his version of Unchained Melody. I think that Unchained Melody is one of Simon’s favourite songs, IIRC.

Unchained Melody. Could Simon get any more predictable than he already is?

Cindy M- that part of the article really made me tear up.

I also like how he adapts to all his interviewers, talking about Phillipine cuisine. I love lumpia too!

Here’s another article about the COUNTDOWN TO LAMBERTGEDDON:

http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/

How could FYE not be destined to be a hit when it is inspiring so many dancers! That O School looks like it’s in Singapore. Maybe someone on one of the dance competition shows will dance to FYE and give it some nice exposure. Haven’t watched any of them so not sure if they’re still going on. Love watching those vids, thanks for sharing!

I know there are other Cook fans here so I can’t help myself. Just when I think Cookie and his band can’t get any hotter, this vid of “Man in the Box” turns up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq7Ifxx4kCM&feature=channel

Studio57
11/07/2009 at 12:00 pm
Okay- I am calling it- Adam’s FYE is either going to start a dance craze or have the most submissions for dances on Youtube. Another one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH4pMO5J2Ms

Thanks for posting the links, the dancing is great, the song was meant to be a major dance hit

I may have missed this in yesterday’s headlines thread, but Adam gets a mention in a New York Times article about high schools dealing with the clash between dress codes and gender issues:

Often a student’s clothes, intended as a fashion statement, can be misread as a billboard about sexuality. In recent years, ‘emo’  style has moved from punk fringe almost to pop mainstream, with boys wearing heavy eyeliner, body-hugging T-shirts and floppy hair dyed black, to emulate singers like Adam Lambert and Pete Wentz.

Can a Boy Wear a Skirt to School?

Unchained Melody. Could Simon get any more predictable than he already is?

Is this a trick question?

saga
11/07/2009 at 12:15 pm
Here’s part 1 of an interesting new Adam interview: http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/entertainment/entertainment/view/20091107-234867/Flamboyant-Idol-likes-to-make-fans-feel-sexy

I recommend this article, it was really interesting. He commented on his androgynos look, which I for the record don’t think he is going for, not in the traditional sense.

Thank you so much for providing the link to that article – I really enjoyed finding out a bit more about Adam’s relationship with his dad who obviously is a great guy and supportive to Adam. Lucky parents and lucky Adam to have had such a loving family

Here’s part 1 of an interesting new Adam interview: http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/entertainment/entertainment/view/20091107-234867/Flamboyant-Idol-likes-to-make-fans-feel-sexy

After that description of his outfit, I was sorry there wasn’t a picture.

What a wonderful family, warms my heart.

mine too Cindy. This is a great article, Adam is a fun, interesting subject to write about.

I recommend this article, it was really interesting. He commented on his androgynos look, which I for the record don’t think he is going for, not in the traditional sense.

Agree! I don’t find his look androgynous (except for album cover) at all. It’s very stylish and young LA edgy and shiek!

When it was announced Adam was going to the AMAs, I wanted him to go with his dad, but I figured he would bring Drake. Now that Drake is out of the picture, I hope he brings his dad.

RCA can launch a choreography contest to promote FYE.

Okay- I am calling it- Adam’s FYE is either going to start a dance craze or have the most submissions for dances on Youtube. Another one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH4pMO5J2Ms
#

The choreography is good, but his movements are not fluid enough</blockquote>.
I recognize this guy! He was on Bravo's reality show, Step It Up and Dance. And, yeah, he wasn't the best dancer and got knocked out fairly early if I remember. (Loved the one part where he copies Adam's hand on forehead pose.) Since he's basically garage dancing, I'm guessing his career is not on an upward trajectory.

Love all the other FYE dancing videos too. Lots of body rolls.

After that description of his outfit, I was sorry there wasn’t a picture.

There were pictures. It was part of the 2012 press conference thing, so this was one of the interviews from it. It’s the pictures with him in the sport coat and Marilyn Monroe tshirt, obviously, not the other ones And yes, I think he looked great that day.

DLEE outfit for adam sounds like the one MJ posted for the 2012 press thread blue pin striped jacked marilyn monroe shirt, jeans, red background

When Adam talks about Idol and his experience on it, it doesn’t seem like the big bad wolf that everyone else portrays it as.

Cindy M- I think this is the one you wanted to post Kirk/Spock- the one you had was a baby bouncing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r16dttxqj-A

Squirrely- I know- I am just getting a kick out of all the FYE videos already.

This is awesome, Start Trek and FYE. My two personal favorites. I am loving all the other dance vids. I bet there will be more.

FYE is doing exactly what it was meant to do. You just have to dance to this song. Ya booty just won’t let you sit all the way through this song.

RCA can launch a choreography contest to promote FYE.

I think Youtube is already ahead of them.

Squirrely
11/07/2009 at 12:55 pm
When Adam talks about Idol and his experience on it, it doesn’t seem like the big bad wolf that everyone else portrays it as.

I totally agree, squirrely. Maybe his experience has been different than others because he seems so proactive about his art and his career. His experience may have helped him in this regard, but I think a large part of it has to do with his personality. He always seemed to me to be such a collaborator, someone who likes to work “with” not against or for, but also someone with a very definite idea of the direction he wants to take things. That gets a lot of respect from peers, when you are true to your vision and willing to work hard to make that vision come true. I know in the business world, there’s no one I like to work with more than someone who has a clear vision, but is willing to enlist others input, ideas and contributions to make their vision come true.

To be honest, I think a lot changed when Clive left too. They seem to loosen up a bit every season, from the stories being told here. But I agree that the personal input is important as well.

Okay- I am calling it- Adam’s FYE is either going to start a dance craze or have the most submissions for dances on Youtube. Another one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH4pMO5J2Ms
#

The choreography is good, but his movements are not fluid enough.

My other post was marked as spam and eaten so I’m trying again.

I remember this guy from Bravo’s reality show, Step It Up And Dance. He was not the best dancer (got knocked out fairly early if I remember) but I like some of his moves, especially the one where he basically copies the hand-on-forehead pose from one of Adam’s photo shoots.

Love all the other FYE dancing vids and I’m noticing a lot of body rrrooolllsss!

AOL is streaming Kris’s album so early? Or maybe a week-10 days before is the normal timeframe. It means there will be dl rips of every song, and they’ll all be on youtube within ten minutes of it streaming. I guess people say that it won’t undercut sales because those people who dl never buy anyway? Anyway, I like the AOL sessions format, it’s a good fit for Kris and his band. Jive seems to really know what it’s doing.

That interview with Adam was good (badly needed some copyediting), though I’m surprised they didn’t ask more about the album. Nvm, I guess that’s in part II. It sounds like there was also a tv part too? Where’s that?

I’m going to see it the weekend after it opens, I hate seeing movies in the opening weekend.

Me, too.

I’m going to see it with a friend who could care less about Adam (blasphemy!) but really likes John Cusack and disaster films. Do you think Adam’s song will play over the closing credits?

I’m going to see it with a friend who could care less about Adam (blasphemy!) but really likes John Cusack and disaster films. Do you think Adam’s song will play over the closing credits?

From what I have read here, that would be a requirement for a song that is to be considered for “Best Song” oscar nomimation. I’m prety sure it will roll with the credits.

Have to watch that again and again Take 2 is awesome’ ¦.now i’m really excited for AMAs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jctnmDniRg

That was so awesome! Maybe they can join Adam on stage for FYE at the AMAs? It’s a new dance craze!!!

Seriously, his song is gonna kick serious butt, and I wonder if Napoleon and Tabatha (NappyTab) or Dave Scott (or Lil C!!!) from SYTYCD will choreo a hip hop piece for the dancers? That would be amazing.

Holy Moly!!!

“I know there are other Cook fans here so I can’t help myself. Just when I think Cookie and his band can’t get any hotter, this vid of ‘Man in the Box’  turns up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq7Ifxx4kCM&feature=channel”

That video is killing me! Wow. All that sexy talk yesterday and now this? whew. Thank you! Thank you!! thank you.

and same with the video of Andy Skib singing Til I’m Blue with DC doing the back ground vocals. Luvs!! Thank you too!

Oh and speaking about Adam’s 2012 presser, I said the other day that I thought there would be an interview from one of the guys who Tweeted that he thought John Cusak was a jerk. Still sads about that. Finally found him and yes, the interview will be video. He said it would be next week, he said that Nov. 2nd, so we’ll see.

Guy’s name is Alex Medela are his Tweets about it: “http://twitpic.com/o2pb2 – WITH ADAM LAMBERT AFTER TALKING ABOUT HIS NEW ALBUM AND THE SONG HE DID FOR 2012. GREAT GUY!

@KarmaLovesGumbo not live, i’ll post it when the interview is edited!
5:44 PM Nov 2nd from web in reply to KarmaLovesGumbo

@finney4 Video, wait 4 it, I’ll post it here!
5:48 PM Nov 2nd from web in reply to finney4

@adamlambert THANK YOU 4 THE INTERVIEW. IT WAS GREAT! http://twitpic.com/o2pb2

@exclusiveee OH YES, HE MADE MY DAY! He ´s so grounded and grateful for what he has accommplished! Great vibe!
6:05 PM Nov 2nd from web in reply to exclusiveee”

So we’ll see.

Seriously, his song is gonna kick serious butt, and I wonder if Napoleon and Tabatha (NappyTab) or Dave Scott (or Lil C!!!) from SYTYCD will choreo a hip hop piece for the dancers? That would be amazing.

I agree with you Sue. When it comes to this song I can’t seem to worry because it has everything needed to do well. Adams team know what they are doing.

LLWD is #97 on the iTunes chart (#36 on pop chart). Is this the first time in the last couple weeks that it’s been in the Top 100? Seems like it’s ben between 110-150 for awhile.

And it’s moved up this morning because it was at #101 and #38 a couple hours ago.

Couldn’t edit, but wanted to add that DC loves to rock out on songs like Man in the Box and is soooo good at it. I really hope he has a few heavy rockin songs like this on his next record, mixed in with the angsty ballads and pop rockers. They all fit him so well, and also really add different flavors to the live show.

Can i just add that I hate the new edit function on the blog?

girlygirl, do you remember how many spins Kris got the first week of his single release (and I know he didnt do any promo, away in england and all that)?

Sue should tweet this to Adam

Eh, who needs Sue, I just tweeted it to him..LOL

Okay, now I’m just hurt b/c you didnt wait for me. lol

I have this feeling that some hopefuls will use FYE for their audition pieces. Never thought of it; it reminds me a lot of Madonna’s vogueing. It’s all the rage! And as long as no one does it in his/her kitchen, I’m good.

Some of these videos are quite good, really.

So now Adam is now #59 on the iTunes charts. Oh, well. I just some radio play…

I have this feeling that some hopefuls will use FYE for their audition pieces. Never thought of it; it reminds me a lot of Madonna’s vogueing. It’s all the rage! And as long as no one does it in his/her kitchen, I’m good.

Too late.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXpatvdV-N4

I’m going to see it with a friend who could care less about Adam (blasphemy!) but really likes John Cusack and disaster films. Do you think Adam’s song will play over the closing credits?

I do think it’s playing over the credits. I’m going with a friend who cares nothing about Adam or the movie but she’s willing to humor me. I already told her we are not leaving until his song finishes playing over the credits. She rolled her eyes said whatever. She love me

LLWD is #97 on the iTunes chart (#36 on pop chart). Is this the first time in the last couple weeks that it’s been in the Top 100? Seems like it’s ben between 110-150 for awhile.

And it’s moved up this morning because it was at #101 and #38 a couple hours ago.

Great news girlygirl. And I finally heard LLWD played on XM Sirius The Pulse station last night with a nice intro from DJ 10 minutes prior to spin. Slow but steady…

We will choose the best pictures to illustrate our Lambert-related items counting down to Lambertgeddon itself.

OMG, Lambertgeddon. LOL

That article about Adam just tells you how great his father/family is, and how level-headed I believe he will always stay. He is fully aware of every sacrifice he has made and all the work it took to get where he is today, and as an outlier, far from as talented, I appreciate his candor. His humility is REAL. That is what makes him so special.

Adam has always said that he didn’t think of Idol as a competition but as a platform for him to get seen and make music, ultimately leading to a record deal. That is why he didn’t need to win, as he told Oprah: he wanted a record deal, and he got one. He enjoys collaboration, as you say, squirrely, and so he should have great success b/c he works WITH people. They make music together. And he has such joy in what he does that you can’t help but smile with him and enjoy being on the journey. And yes, as I suspected, FYE is really beginning to grow on me, tho the album cover never win. Sorry, but I like hundreds of other pics. I will just substitute one of those.

I WANT HIS DAMNED RECORD ALREADY!!!

I have this feeling that some hopefuls will use FYE for their audition pieces. Never thought of it; it reminds me a lot of Madonna’s vogueing. It’s all the rage! And as long as no one does it in his/her kitchen, I’m good.

Too late.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXpatvdV-N4

LOL – Don’t anyone say bathroom

Does anyone have the mediabase links for FYE and FIBOU so I can check on Adam’s and Allison’s spins?

Thanks

saga
11/07/2009 at 1:20 pm
girlygirl, do you remember how many spins Kris got the first week of his single release (and I know he didnt do any promo, away in england and all that)?

I’m not girlygirl, but I found this in MJ’s archives for the week ending 9/28/09, 8 days after it debuted.

By Dan MacMedan, USA TODAY
Kris Allen’s Live Like We’re Dying makes the highest debut on this week’s American Idol airplay chart. According to MediaBase, Allen’s debut single picked up 180 spins, enough to put it at #51 on our chart. He enters the Mediabase Hot AC chart at #63 and the Top 40 chart at #93.

Has anyone posted this YouTube video of the little baby bouncing around to FYE?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3fveTYXmKE&feature=player_embedded

girlygirl
11/07/2009 at 1:31 pm
Does anyone have the mediabase links for FYE and FIBOU so I can check on Adam’s and Allison’s spins?

Here’s as of yesterday for Adam’s. Don’t have Allison’s, sorry.

Total – 271
HAC – 114
POP – 125
ACT – 1
RHY – 5
Audience Impression 3.071

http://www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/Reports/Reg/EMD.asp?SOngID=1697047&NumDays=7

Don’t know where the difference comes from, I’m new to this.

suebrody…u are losing ur touch..I had to tweet video of singapore dance routine to claude kelly, dr luke and adam….btw the pic of dr luke on twitter is not what i htought he would look like.

I love baby Desmond!

I just called Mix 104.1 in Boston. I requested FYE. He said ‘I really like it, it has a disco feel.’ I said it was “bouncy, jumpy, and fun.” ( I guess b/c I had just watched baby Desmond, lol). He laughed and said, ‘Sure, I’ll play it.’

WIN!

Too late.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXpatvdV-N4

I liked him, his hand gestures were great.

suebrody’ ¦u are losing ur touch..I had to tweet video of singapore dance routine to claude kelly, dr luke and adam’ ¦.btw the pic of dr luke on twitter is not what i htought he would look like.

I was busy with RL, but I’m back.

I tweeted baby Desmond to Adam, but I’m sure ppl already have.

Sue I agree with this 100%

That article about Adam just tells you how great his father/family is, and how level-headed I believe he will always stay. He is fully aware of every sacrifice he has made and all the work it took to get where he is today, and as an outlier, far from as talented, I appreciate his candor. His humility is REAL. That is what makes him so special.

Does anyone have the mediabase links for FYE and FIBOU so I can check on Adam’s and Allison’s spins?

FIBOU

I remember this guy from Bravo’s reality show, Step It Up And Dance.

So apparently, I am not the only person who watched that show

SpenserJ
11/07/2009 at 1:52 pm
I remember this guy from Bravo’s reality show, Step It Up And Dance.

So apparently, I am not the only person who watched that show

::raises hand::: I watched it too!!

OMG…just watched baby Desmond bouncing to FYE….that kid needs to be moved away from the brick fireplace STAT because when he hears Adam sing “Til u SCREAAAAAAMM” he is going to go flying out of that bouncer..HAHA

it reminds me a lot of Madonna’s vogueing. It’s all the rage!

Not that I have anything against FYE, but other than being another Madonna/Lady Gaga/Britney copycat song, I would love for someone to explain how FYE is the new Vogue.

Jason fans, do you remember that Jason’s very first concert was 11-29-08 in Tulsa and that the venue recorded it? Well, the Flytrap has finally uploaded the videos and they posted the link on Twitter a few days ago. There are four videos. They contain songs and interviews. Watching would be a great way to spend free time and the flashbacks will make you smile. Link:

http://www.flytrapeventcenter.com/category/video_gallery/

For the Kris and Katy fans, I guess she’s doing some acting in webisodes. Got this info from gossipcandy.

Links:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Bloodstone-Diaries/150574946589?ref=nf

http://www.lacasting.com/katyallen

Dc concert in Shawnee looks great, he is happy and doing well. MITB and TIB both, yea ! Don’t like the tattoo….

Just saw this on twitter, this person lives in Texas. Seems like radio spins are going up, even as FYE goes down….

glamplz @adamlambert Heard u on radio top 40 today FYE was #30

For the Kris and Katy fans, I guess she’s doing some acting in webisodes. Got this info from gossipcandy.

http://www.lacasting.com/katyallen

Katy wears a size 0 dress. OMG their kids are gonna be microscopic! LOL

http://twitpic.com/on3d5

Looks like Michael Johns is opening for David tonight in Houston.

Cat likes FYE too..sorry if already posted but seems to fit here with the “dancing” vids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxXzJmHW5Ls

I am sooo bombed out because my computer crashed and I won’t get it back for awhile! I’ve resorted to going to the library to hook up to the enternet and to MJ’s for my Adam news! I’ve read through alot of post and I can’t believe my computer would go down when all these exciting things are going on for Adam. Well, at least I can come here and catch up on the news pretty quick.

I loved the video of the kids dancing to FYE and the baby in the bouncer!! I love FYE, by the way. I can’t get the catchy tune out of my head!

I’ll be back for news periodically until my computer is back. What a major FAIL!!!!

We really do need an FYE choreo competition. LOL on kitty 2. Baby Desmond is now my favorite, however

May
11/07/2009 at 1:57 pm
it reminds me a lot of Madonna’s vogueing. It’s all the rage!

Not that I have anything against FYE, but other than being another Madonna/Lady Gaga/Britney copycat song, I would love for someone to explain how FYE is the new Vogue.

LOL, sounds like you don’t. I don’t think that anyone called it the “New Vogue”, even in the thread you referenced.

I believe that what was said about reminding of Madonna’s “voguing” was because of all the elaborate hand gestures that are showing up in the dance videos of FYE on youtube. Many of those videos were linked in this thread. In alot of them, the dancers are doing a lot of vogue-like hand gestures in their choreography like in Madonna’s orginal video.

http://www.lacasting.com/katyallen

Katy wears a size 0 dress. OMG their kids are gonna be microscopic! LOL

Nice pictures, very pretty girl. Size 0, I think think she was that small.

Guy’s name is Alex Medela are his Tweets about it: ‘http://twitpic.com/o2pb2 ‘“ WITH ADAM LAMBERT AFTER TALKING ABOUT HIS NEW ALBUM AND THE SONG HE DID FOR 2012. GREAT GUY!

@adamlambert THANK YOU 4 THE INTERVIEW. IT WAS GREAT! http://twitpic.com/o2pb2

@exclusiveee OH YES, HE MADE MY DAY! He ´s so grounded and grateful for what he has accommplished! Great vibe!

Adam continues to impress just about everyone he meets, and they absolutely love him. Really, really unusual that they sent the singer who just sang a song on the soundtrack to the movie press junket. Someone seemed to know what they were doing, tho. Adam can become a professional interviewee — he is so articulate and charming.

We really do need an FYE choreo competition. LOL on kitty 2. Baby Desmond is now my favorite, however

I would love to see Paisley dance to FYE.

X Factor song spoilers

Lucie, really? Demi Lovato? Why not Miley Cyrus?

I love the dance videos to FYE, there are some talented people out there, plus the song is made for dancing

I would love to see Paisley dance to FYE.

Oh, Paisley would be out of control. Hee hee. YouTubers love them some Adam songs.

Yes on Katy. Beautiful headshots. I didn’t know she was so petite, either.

Cook does grunge really well. Very sweaty, tho (but sounding as amazing as ever and of course his banter is hysterical). Those tats are really fugley, however.

FYE (the single, not the album) is #1 on Entertainment Weekly’s Must List in the current print edition (the Holiday Movie issue)

123abc456 – Wow that would be pretty special if Michael Johns was there opening for David Cook tonight – I thought it was a rumor that had been debunked. Will be internet scouring for updates as day progresses, as Real Life allows.

Nice tweet: grammygo80: #ForYourEntertainment is #21 on WPLJ’s in NYC Top Hits list – Way to go @adamlambert

FYE (the single, not the album) is #1 on Entertainment Weekly’s Must List in the current print edition (the Holiday Movie issue)

It’s cool, b/c it got such a good (and amusing) write up and it has Adam’s tour pic with emo hair (there is a small picture to the side looking like Elvis but with a wry smile). I think that’s a two-week edition–two weeks of Adam in the #1 spot! And no Adam on the back page bulls eye for a change!

I really don’t get why FYE is not selling on itunes.

FYE is slowly making its way into the Boston market:

@kiss108fm thanks @BillyCosta for playing For Your Entertainment Adam Lambert. Can you play again Please!! Thanks!! Time For Miracles too!!14 minutes ago from web

After rewatching some of Adam’s performances from the summer tour, I can’t see Adam opening for anyone. I’m not saying he shouldn’t and it’s not gonna happen, it’s just that he is too good. Remember he got really rave reviews throughout the tour, and many critics saying it was like a mini-Lambert concert.

I’m not sure which is better for him. To open at a big venue (his act is conducive to big venues), or headline at smaller venues. From the songs on his album, his concerts should go over huge.

I really don’t get why FYE is not selling on itunes.

Well, a banner of some sort would be helpful. Maybe Adam fans already bought it (like me) from AO, and the press junket will help. I think it’s going to end up being a much bigger download for the album than the single. Airplay is key for me, and that seems to be increasing.

Could someone explain the reasoning behind playing Kris’ album on aol on Monday, a week before its official release? Is this a big honor? Wouldn’t it have made more sense to play it on its release date and not have to worry about piracy issues? I seem to recall that Carrie’s album released a song a week (on itunes?), but didn’t reveal the entire album before the drop date (I could be wrong on that, though). Since we already heard 3 new Kris songs at the Miami tailgate, I’m curious as to why we’ll hear the entire album ahead of schedule. Thoughts?

I guess I was just looking forward to getting his cd in my hot little hand, curling up on my couch and enjoying it by myself. But now, I’m pulled to my computer (pc in an office room) and it’s not how I wanted to hear it. I doubt I will be able to just ignore it, though, and will give in and listen. Kinda ruins the moment, though. Some things are just worth waiting for! Anyone else feel this way?

FYE is slowly making its way into the Boston market:

@kiss108fm thanks @BillyCosta for playing For Your Entertainment Adam Lambert. Can you play again Please!! Thanks!! Time For Miracles too!!14 minutes ago from web

YES!

suebrody

11/07/2009 at 2:41 pm
FYE is slowly making its way into the Boston market:

@kiss108fm thanks @BillyCosta for playing For Your Entertainment Adam Lambert. Can you play again Please!! Thanks!! Time For Miracles too!!14 minutes ago from web

I’ve been switching back and forth btwn 104 and 108 for the past few days hoping to catch FYE, no luck so far…. when I finally do hear it I’ll probably go flying off the road!

I really don’t get why FYE is not selling on itunes.

Its been being sold at AO for a week now. After 4 days in itunes, it is still in #58 or around. LLWD had a similar fate, no banners and weird day release, but in 3 days in itunes, with no prior sales, was at #54 in itunes. The release was messy and could have been much better, but it was not so bad. We only dont have enough information about it bc of sales in AO and itunes glitch.

I really don’t get why FYE is not selling on itunes.

Because most of his fan base bought it off of AO and Amazon. I know I got sick of waiting for it. I stalk twitter pretty much- ALOT of people downloaded it that first day it was available on AO. I hardly heard anything but complaints went it finally went to ITunes.

The media blitz is going to start next week. I am sure of it. they are going to slowly and steadily increase plays and then once the TV appearances start, I truly believe everything is going to be smooth sailing from there. According to that Reuters article that is going around, this is the way they are planing it.

Hakuna matata.

Because most of his fan base bought it off of AO and Amazon.

If that’s the case, that will be reflected in the 1st week sales when the numbers come out on Wednesday. SoundScan reports the total sold, no matter which vendor sold it.

Could someone explain the reasoning behind playing Kris’ album on aol on Monday, a week before its official release? Is this a big honor? Wouldn’t it have made more sense to play it on its release date and not have to worry about piracy issues?

I seem to recall they watermark them with some annoying lady talking. 1 week in advance on AOL is totally typical of new albums. Certainly, it is of Idols (from at least Season 5). It’s just a standard industry practice.

I really don’t get why FYE is not selling on itunes.

I think the itunes situation was just a major fail. 1) released on Weds when everyone was looking for it on Monday or Teusday 2) listed inthe album section, no listing in the new music section, 3) you do not even see it in the singles section when you go to the home page.

It was just a mess. It was easier to buy it from AO or Amazon. I am not worrying about it anymore. As long as airplay goes up, and more of these viral vids make the circuit, I think the song will climb steadily. Oh and let’s not forget the power of the AMAs. I am far from worrying yet. And to put it in perspective, evenwith all that craziness, Adam still has the highest ranked single of Kradison. And his is the most recently released.

If that’s the case, that will be reflected in the 1st week sales when the numbers come out on Wednesday.

That’s what i think too. If TFM got in the top 10 on Itunes, FYE had to have done just as well. I still don’t think we’ll see really good sales until after the AMA’s though. They seem to be holding it back on purpose.

I just popped over to ITUNES to take a look. FYE is hovering at round 60 on the overall chart and TFM was hovering around 150. What we missed, unfortunately, was how FYE did it’s first few days on ITUNES because their feed was done. But it is what it is.

Then I hopped over to the pop chart and Adam has four singles in the top 200. Ranking in order, FYE, TFM, Want, and surprise, surprise, NOBO at 198. I suspect that the number of units downloaded for NOBO is miniscule, but it’s funny it’s getting a little surge.

I called MIX in Boston again (I *knew* the other djay had not given the request to him). I don’t think this one knew the song. He asked my name and then said he would see if they had it (which means he either doesn’t know or probably won’t play it, tho they do take requests). I haven’t heard it in Boston yet, either. I am at work today. I’ll flail if they play it!

*hopeful for play and successful media blitz*

Thanks for talking me in off the ledge guys, I’m getting back my positive energy.

Nice review for Kris in the Miami Herald. It started off a bit rough, but in the end, he got some nice compliments for his debut album, especially in regards to his songwriting.

I expect FYE to sell at least around 50000, since that is what TFM sold. Maybe FYE will sell more since it is more current than TFM. A banner at itunes would be good since more casual fans will se and think, hmm, mihgt wanna try this one. Maybe they are saving the banners for when his album is out.

Weird that none of the S8 peeps got a singles banner at itunes.

I appreciate his candor. His humility is REAL. That is what makes him so special.

This is so true. He is on the threshold of stardom, but he remains humble. At times he doesn’t even seem to understand what all the big fuss is over him. Some people just have those personality traits we all admire. He likes people, and it comes across. He is patient and thoughtful in what he says. He is a decent human being in a field where there are many superficial phonies. But there is nothing phony about Adam Lambert.

People who are currently successful in entertainment — Lea Michele, Rivers Cuomo, and Rob Cavallo most recently, among others — admire him and are eager to work with him, and so do pop princesses like Pink, Lada Gaga, Katy Perry and others. The rock world looks up to him too, and according to Ryan Seacrest, Queen would still like Adam to perform with them at some point.

Randy Jackson may have said it most simply and directly when he made the off-mike comment to Oprah that Adam is “a nice guy”.

Adam could bring tears to Smokey Robinson’s eyes when he sang one of his songs, so I don’t feel so bad after crying listening to Adam’s cover of “I just love you” from Upright Cabaret. That song is a country song, or at least Five for Fighting put a country twist on it, but Adam brought it up to a much higher, unique level. Just like he did to Led Zeppelin’s “Whole lotta love” over in the rock genre.

Popular magazines and TV programs are eager to have Adam grace their pages or screens. Everyone, it seems, would like to have a piece of the budding superstar.

Adam has also been a role model for gay boys, and may even have indirectly prevented the suicide of a few. For others, he provides hope where there was little or none before. Adam is a positive force for society, and for understanding. He inspires respect.

Adam has enthusiastic fans and great fan clubs (Lambrits) in England, and Canada and Australia and New Zealand, all English-speaking countries where they may have been able to see AI8 even if they couldn’t vote. That is understandable. What is truly amazing are the countries, many of them on distant continents, where most people know little or no English, but Adam is popular anyway: Venezuela, Japan, Indonesia, Singapore, China, and on and on.

What is there about Adam that allows him to cross frontiers and oceans and barriers and national boundaries? Even to places where they don’t speak English?

What is there about Adam that makes people of such vastly different national, racial, class, cultural, and linguistic backgrounds so passionately connect with him?

What is there about Adam that, when you see him perform, it’s almost like he takes control, and takes your breath away?

When it comes to recognizing the birth of a star, to borrow a quote from former U.S. Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart, “I’ll know it when I see it.”

All these things are wonderful; some of them are truly awesome achievements. But they just confirm, bolster, or affirm something that I think we already knew. Think back to when you first saw Adam on American Idol. After about 30 seconds of watching his first performance, you just knew. You didn’t have to have anyone come up and tap you on the shoulder and inform you. Because you already knew. You just knew.

Here is our next Superstar. There is just no one like him. In the whole world. And you knew it when you saw him.

I expect FYE to sell at least around 50000, since that is what TFM sold.

I’ve been reading that many people bought the collector’s edition of the album on AO and got the single download with that. I guess those won’t be calculated as single sales? That might affect the sales figures for FYE.

1 week in advance on AOL is totally typical of new albums. Certainly, it is of Idols (from at least Season 5). It’s just a standard industry practice.

Thanks Kirsten! So, we should also expect FYE to also appear like this, on the 16th?

123abc456 ‘“ Wow that would be pretty special if Michael Johns was there opening for David Cook tonight ‘“ I thought it was a rumor that had been debunked

Yeah so confused. I wonder if he was supposed to but the plans fell through? If he does though I demand a Mavid dance at some point! Really kind of odd. Thinking back to season 7 I would have never imagined MJ opening up for him..

I’ve been reading that many people bought the collector’s edition of the album on AO and got the single download with that. I guess those won’t be calculated as single sales? That might affect the sales figures for FYE.

True. The designing artist Fuko wrote that more than 1000 copies of the collectors edition were sold in the first hour. Cant even imagine how much it sold at the end!

I know there are other Cook fans here so I can’t help myself. Just when I think Cookie and his band can’t get any hotter, this vid of ‘Man in the Box’  turns up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq7Ifxx4kCM&feature=channel‘ 

This Cook fan thanks you – yes I do. Love sweaty, smexy Cook. And, apart from that, he just seems so happy lately. Makes me happy, too.

Very nice post, GaryJ. Thanks for that, and ITA.

OMG, Wow. I’ll just… move along.

I expect FYE to sell at least around 50000, since that is what TFM sold.

IIRC, when that number came out for TFM, fans were saying it sold like that because it wasn’t the “real” single yet. I find it interesting that now that number is the new benchmark the real single needs to live up to.

Interesting essay GaryJ – that’s how I feel about David Cook. just don’t get it for your guy. Glad there’s plenty of music to go around.

GaryJ, you made me verklempt.

IIRC, when that number came out for TFM, fans were saying it sold like that because it wasn’t the ‘real’  single. I find it interesting that now that number is the new benchmark when the actual single is out.

Well, I don’t know about that, I just know what I think. Honestly, I don’t care because I think the music is good enough to carry outside the idol bubble. The fanbases has proven to act differently than previous years, or maybe they are just smaller.

I called MIX in Boston again (I *knew* the other djay had not given the request to him). I don’t think this one knew the song. He asked my name and then said he would see if they had it (which means he either doesn’t know or probably won’t play it, tho they do take requests). I haven’t heard it in Boston yet, either. I am at work today. I’ll flail if they play it!

This is the exact response (and runaround) I’m getting from MIX 107.3 in Washington, DC. I have called several times without any success. My fingers stay crossed for you today, suebrody!!

GaryJ, you are a FANTASTIC fan, and Adam is lucky to have you! Keep up the great support! Although he is not my favorite AI Alum, I do think that Adam is a very good singer and performer, however, I must respectfully and vehemenently disagree with you on this statement:

but Adam brought it up to a much higher, unique level. Just like he did to Led Zeppelin’s ‘Whole lotta love’  over in the rock genre.

Led Zeppelin Rules!

Here is our next Superstar. There is just no one like him. In the whole world. And you knew it when you saw him.

He is on the road to something great, I hope it’s everything he wants it to be. Great post GaryJ.

And wellhesback, there are a some similarities between Adam and David Cook, I guess that why I find David very interesting too. I liked David first, then fell hard for Adam.

I think people are just going to have to chill about iTunes ranking right now. Adam’s fanbase has certainly made their purchase of the single by now. Whether it be from AO, Amazon, or iTunes, it’s done. FYE is not going to rush up the chart until it gets significantly more radio play (and it is doing well, for being out about a week) and promotion. I know I don’t rush to buy a song the first time I hear it on the radio; it usually takes me more than a few listens. So, this is a process. Honestly, I don’t think it will really move again until after the AMA’s (and then, I have big expectations)>

And, Jolene, I don’t think anyone is using TfM numbers as some kind of benchmark. I just think that with all the sales made through AO it leaves us with really no indication of how the song sold at all. Usually, iTunes can give some indication of how things did in the first couple days, but in this case AO beat them to the punch. At this point, I have absolutely no idea how the AI fanbase came through. And, honestly, I refuse to worry about anything until December. If album sales are low, I will be disappointed.

but Adam brought it up to a much higher, unique level. Just like he did to Led Zeppelin’s ‘Whole lotta love’  over in the rock genre.

Led Zeppelin Rules!

I find myself wishing it was Adam’s version whenever Whole Lotta Love comes on the radio…then again I don’t like LZ as much as the Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, or the Beatles anyway.

Squirrely. I agree very strongly with this statement. The similarities are legion, and though I love Cookie the best, and always will, I wish massive success for Adam too!

And wellhesback, there are a some similarities between Adam and David Cook, I guess that why I find David very interesting too. I liked David first, then fell hard for Adam.

Me too, garyJ

IIRC, when that number came out for TFM, fans were saying it sold like that because it wasn’t the ‘real’  single yet. I find it interesting that now that number is the new benchmark the real single needs to live up to.

I don’t think any of us would be saying this if it came out on a Tuesday on Itunes and if there were no glitches. But there were major glitches, so we have to adjust. The world is not ending. Our guy is going to be more than just fine.

I find myself wishing it was Adam’s version whenever Whole Lotta Love comes on the radio’ ¦then again I don’t like LZ as much as the Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, or the Beatles anyway.

Me too. It was on this morning and I told my husband it sounds sooo much better when Adam sings it.

I find myself wishing it was Adam’s version whenever Whole Lotta Love comes on the radio’ ¦then again I don’t like LZ as much as the Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, or the Beatles anyway.

Sacrilege I tell you!!! You are wrong, wrong, wrong! Just kidding. LOL. Too each his own…

And yes I love the Beatles and Stones too, but LZ > Aerosmith, IMO. I love many Aerosmith songs (Dream On, anyone?), but sometimes they sound a little generic to my ears.

Led Zeppelin is probably the greatest rock group of all time. This despite the fact the group basically ended in 1980 with the death of their drummer, John Bonham.

Every time the rockumentary performance, “The song remains the same,” comes on VH1 and I’m able to, I watch it. I think I’ve seen it 6 or 7 times. What a great show.

And nothing against Robert Plant. He’s one of the greatest rock vocalists of all time, right up there with Axl Rose. Plant is a unique and impressive performer, and his version of “Whole lotta love”, which is featured in the pimp slot near the end of TSRTS, is fantastic.

But, how can we deny that Adam took WLL and made it over almost into his own iconic anthem? And performed it with so much awe-inspiring passion at every AI summer tour concert? Even when he was ill in Syracuse?

dcglam, yep, we just (politely) ask. That’s it for me calling this weekend. I tried. The KISS stations slowly seem to be picking FYE up, and that seems even more logical than HAC, b/c it really sings out “Top 40″ to me.

I am with those of you who were immediately drawn to Cook. He seemed to me to be the real dea: really smart (crossword puzzles, still cracks me up), personable but ambitious (Adam has said he used Cook’s strategy of mixing it up as he moved his way thru the weeks), attractive, talented, charismatic; I had never rooted for a Idol the way I did for Cook (whom I loved in concert and love to watch on youtube) until Adam came on (I swore after Cook I was *done*), and then *thud*. Instantaneous attraction. I, er, love ToML, as I love TfM, but I also loved Billie Jean and love RoF. In any case, these are the truest Idols for me.

I find myself wishing it was Adam’s version whenever Whole Lotta Love comes on the radio’ ¦

I feel like this when I hear Muse’s Starlight. I have it on a mix cd with some other songs I like and every time I wish it was Adam singing. I was actually hoping Starlight was going to be a bonus track on the album.

GaryJ, very nice post. I find it humorous that celebrities go gaga over Adam, when they are in actuality much more famous than he is now. E.g., Christina Applegate tweeting, OMG, I just saw Adam Lambert.

Sacrilege I tell you!!! You are wrong, wrong, wrong! Just kidding. LOL. Too each his own’ ¦

And yes I love the Beatles and Stones too, but LZ > Aerosmith, IMO. I love many Aerosmith songs (Dream On, anyone?), but sometimes they sound a little generic to my ears.

I can get the generic diss on Aerosmith…don’t agree, but can understand where it comes from. On the other hand, I prefer Adam’s Cryin’ to theirs, too. Just never really “got” LZ. Except Stairway. That song is epic.

GaryJ
11/07/2009 at 3:41 pm
Led Zeppelin is probably the greatest rock group of all time. This despite the fact the group basically ended in 1980 with the death of their drummer, John Bonham.

Every time the rockumentary performance, ‘The song remains the same,’  comes on VH1 and I’m able to, I watch it. I think I’ve seen it 6 or 7 times. What a great show.

And nothing against Robert Plant. He’s one of the greatest rock vocalists of all time, right up there with Axl Rose. Plant is a unique and impressive performer, and his version of ‘Whole lotta love’ , which is featured in the pimp slot near the end of TSRTS, is fantastic.

But, how can we deny that Adam took WLL and made it over almost into his own iconic anthem? And performed it with so much awe-inspiring passion at every AI summer tour concert? Even when he was ill in Syracuse?

I love your posts and I totally agree on this, having been a HUGE Zeppelin fan all my life, Adam did a fantastic job with WLL, Robert would be proud

GaryJ , that was such a beautiful post…you put into words exactly how I feel about Adam…if it’s okay with you, I am going to copy it and save it…
thank you

I find it humorous that celebrities go gaga over Adam, when they are in actuality much more famous than he is now. E.g., Christina Applegate tweeting, OMG, I just saw Adam Lambert.

I love Brandy’s post about her heart dropping when she saw him.

I posted this in the wrong thread ‘“ so here’s a wonderful vid from David Cook’s concert last night. They were in Oklahoma & his intro focuses on his bandmates who are from the area. Then he generously gives the song over to Andy Skib.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_hHrHohDoQ

Ooh, thank you for that! What a handsome band . I love that David takes such pleasure in handing the song over to Andy. Love ‘Til I’m Blue, I was so excited to get to hear David sing it at one of my shows and I’d love to get the Andy lead on it, too. I have the MWK version on my iPod but also downloaded a copy of David’s. They both do it beautifully.

And WOW, MiTB… nice. I love that song, I love David’s version…

This was a nice break coming back from coaching soccer and getting ready to dive into more proofreading. Hooray for YouTube videos of shows!

Speaking of legendary bands my sister told me Aerosmith is trying to oust Steven Tyler WTF. Steven Tyler IS Aerosmith.

I am with those of you who were immediately drawn to Cook. He seemed to me to be the real dea: really smart (crossword puzzles, still cracks me up), personable but ambitious (Adam has said he used Cook’s strategy of mixing it up as he moved his way thru the weeks), attractive, talented, charismatic; I had never rooted for a Idol the way I did for Cook (whom I loved in concert and love to watch on youtube) until Adam came on (I swore after Cook I was *done*), and then *thud*. Instantaneous attraction. I, er, love ToML, as I love TfM, but I also loved Billie Jean and love RoF. In any case, these are the truest Idols for me.

Beautifully put Suebrody! You are such a sweet person.

Intriguing re: Michael Johns possibly opening for DC tonight. DC is really good about supporting friends, so I could see this happening if it worked out strategically.

Speaking of legendary bands my sister told me Aerosmith is trying to oust Steven Tyler WTF. Steven Tyler IS Aerosmith.

I think Steven is doing drugs again… just a feeling from what the stuff Joe Perry has been saying.

I think Steven is doing drugs again’ ¦ just a feeling from what the stuff Joe Perry has been saying.

Maybe he’s on painkillers from falling off the stage. So sad. I hope they don’t do a ‘Rockstar: Aerosmith’ that would be very depressing.

DC is really good about supporting friends,

Another Adam/David similarity

Speaking of legendary bands my sister told me Aerosmith is trying to oust Steven Tyler WTF. Steven Tyler IS Aerosmith.

That’s terrible. He still has a great voice!

I love your posts and I totally agree on this, having been a HUGE Zeppelin fan all my life, Adam did a fantastic job with WLL, Robert would be proud

Oh I agree that Adam did a FANTASTIC cover of WLL, but I don’t think it was BETTER than LZ. Even if you genuinely think it is, saying that outside of the AI bubble might be grounds for a beating, or at least it might turn-off potential Adam fans. Just like saying Cook’s version of Billie Jean was superior to MJ’s. Trust me, I took much grief for that.

Beautifully put Suebrody! You are such a sweet person.

Aw, thanks. :8)

DC is really good about supporting friends,

Another Adam/David similarity

THIS.

Speaking of legendary bands my sister told me Aerosmith is trying to oust Steven Tyler WTF. Steven Tyler IS Aerosmith.

Well, if the drug rumor is true then Joe and the rest just need to retire. There is no Aerosmith without Steven Tyler. There is no Van Halen without David Lee Roth , and there is no Journey without Steve Perry. However, there is a Styx without Dennis DeYoung, lol.

Squirrely
11/07/2009 at 3:53 pm
Speaking of legendary bands my sister told me Aerosmith is trying to oust Steven Tyler WTF. Steven Tyler IS Aerosmith.

I tend to agree, but based on the group’s past history I would amend your statement slightly (hope you don’d mind ), “Steven Tyler and Joe Perry ARE Aerosmith.”

They come across like each other’s yin – yang –at their best when together.

If Tyler is using again, it would explain things. I hope he’s not and that this whole alleged thing is just a gossipy whispering.

Count me in the LZ fanatic subcribes to Adam Lambert’s version of WLL is to-die-for club, but don’t tattle to my cousin (he thinks so, too), but we’re not supposed to publicly admit it.

Just like saying Cook’s version of Billie Jean was superior to MJ’s. Trust me, I took much grief for that.

Well, I actually like Cook’s version better too (and Adam’s WLL) but there is also the credit for creating a song like WLL or Billie Jean. Really great songs don’t happen that often and also sometimes they are tied in with a special moment in time for the audience.

I mean, think of Matt Bellamy and Starlight. That was a streak of genius if you ask me.

If Tyler is using again, it would explain things. I hope he’s not and that this whole alleged thing is just a gossipy whispering.

Joe has been saying that Steven won’t answer the phone and that he doesn’t want to see anyone in the band, he just disappears (for over a month). And then he fell…
When you stay away from people close to you, it usually means that things are not good.

Studio57
11/07/2009 at 4:04 pm

Well, if the drug rumor is true then Joe and the rest just need to retire. There is no Aerosmith without Steven Tyler. There is no Van Halen without David Lee Roth , and there is no Journey without Steve Perry. However, there is a Styx without Dennis DeYoung, lol

True dat.

Suebrody – that was a nice post of yours upthread re being a DC & AL fan.

After some sleuthing, it looks like the MichaelJohns opening for DC can’t be true: @RubenStuddard: Me , Nathan East, Michael Johns and @deborahcoxdrg on the way to Canada http://yfrog.com/0z5q4j

Just like saying Cook’s version of Billie Jean was superior to MJ’s. Trust me, I took much grief for that.

Well, I actually like Cook’s version better too (and Adam’s WLL) but there is also the credit for creating a song like WLL or Billie Jean. Really great songs don’t happen that often and also sometimes they are tied in with a special moment in time for the audience.

I don’t think David’s Billy Jean was better than Michael’s I just thought it was different and I love them both. However I do think David’s Billy Jean was way way way better than Chris Cornell’s.

Well, if the drug rumor is true then Joe and the rest just need to retire. There is no Aerosmith without Steven Tyler. There is no Van Halen without David Lee Roth , and there is no Journey without Steve Perry. However, there is a Styx without Dennis DeYoung, lol.

Yes, this!. And there is no Alice in Chains without Layne Staley. This is also why I respect Dave Grohl so much, he never tried to capitalize on the Nirvana name, he just moved on…

After some sleuthing, it looks like the MichaelJohns opening for DC can’t be true: @RubenStuddard: Me , Nathan East, Michael Johns and @deborahcoxdrg on the way to Canada http://yfrog.com/0z5q4j

Love Deborah Cox! Is this still that David Foster and Friends thing they are doing?

Just gotta say, I’ve been stuck here all day trying to get 2010 Winter Olympics Tickets online (woefully unsuccessful so far, but fingers crossed) and this discussion has been a lifesaver/brainsaver. Thanks.

So sad that it’s drugs that destroyed all the great bands.

Yes, this!. And there is no Alice in Chains without Layne Staley. This is also why I respect Dave Grohl so much, he never tried to capitalize on the Nirvana name, he just moved on’ ¦

Love, Love, love Dave Grohl. And since we are all committing sacriledge here, I am not a Zep fan and I love the Foo Fighters more than Nirvana. Yeah. I said it.

You know, I should look at the headlines thread before I send links to mj. Sorry. lol

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that so many David Cook fans from AI7 are also Adam Lambert fans here at mj’s. It doesn’t matter if they place Cookie first or Adam first. Or think they’re both great (since they are).

I watched all of AI7, and my impression was, the judges were pushing Archie. But I wasn’t surprised at all when Cookie won. His performances in the home stretch were noticeably better, hands down, and nobody could deny it — except those who were in denial, if you know what I mean. Sure, I felt sorry for Archie; he was a sort of cute puppy of a kid, and nobody likes to see a puppy get kicked to the curb, even in a gentle way. But no Cook fan should feel guilty. Archie has had a tremendous singing career since then. He is a totally different kind of singer, IMO, and doesn’t compete with Cook at all.

Cook came from behind and won it all. Apart from that, the similarities with Adam are pretty spooky. Both have die-hard fan bases that will last a long, long time; both have a similar sense of humor; both have great talent; both can sing in more than one genre and make it believable; both are humble and don’t take themselves too seriously; both are people you could run into at a bar and have a drink with, because they are down to earth. And on and on.

It so happens Adam somehow affected me and reached a personal wavelength that no other performer has ever connected with. I don’t know how it happened. I wasn’t expecting it. I can’t really explain it, except maybe to other Adam fans, because they have experienced pretty much the same thing, and sort of know what I’m talking about. If Adam announced on Monday that his first solo performance was going to be in Vancouver in January, I’d be looking for flights to and hotels there…

Love, Love, love Dave Grohl. And since we are all committing sacriledge here, I am not a Zep fan and I love the Foo Fighters more than Nirvana. Yeah. I said it.

LOL. That’s OK Studio57, Cook likes Pearl Jam more than Nirvana, and I still love him. Haha.

Cook came from behind and won it all. Apart from that, the similarities with Adam are pretty spooky. Both have die-hard fan bases that will last a long, long time; both have a similar sense of humor; both have great talent; both can sing in more than one genre and make it believable; both are humble and don’t take themselves too seriously; both are people you could run into at a bar and have a drink with, because they are down to earth. And on and on.

very true!

If Adam announced on Monday that his first solo performance was going to be in Vancouver in January, I’d be looking for flights to and hotels there’ ¦

So would I – I’m dying to see him perform again.

I believe Steven Tyler wants to go solo. The band has been together for 39 years so maybe it’s time for a change.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1225927/The-end-Aerosmith-Steven-Tyler-quits-band.html

GaryJ I don’t usually fangirl… at all… but I will add the key similarity between cook and adam. For me, they both have complete command of the stage, enough so that they almost demand all your attention when they are doing their thing. They are confident and are so at home with what they are doing that it shines through to the audience.

Beautiful, articulate post GaryJ! And you should come to Vancouver anyway. We Rock Here!

Cook came from behind and won it all. Apart from that, the similarities with Adam are pretty spooky. Both have die-hard fan bases that will last a long, long time; both have a similar sense of humor; both have great talent; both can sing in more than one genre and make it believable; both are humble and don’t take themselves too seriously; both are people you could run into at a bar and have a drink with, because they are down to earth. And on and on.

Well, GaryJ, here I have to agree with you, on
all these points
.
and definitely agree with you also, Koshka: “but I will add the key similarity between cook and adam. For me, they both have complete command of the stage, enough so that they almost demand all your attention when they are doing their thing. They are confident and are so at home with what they are doing that it shines through to the audience.”

Awwwww! how adorable is THIS???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIBlbln1gNE

Here is the Mediabase link for the stations that have added FYE
http://addboard.mediabase.com/SongAddHistory.asp?Sngcde=LAMBFYE&ob=1&format=XX
Until your station is added here they will not play the song no matter how many times you call or text or email!
Radio is a business, there are rules for getting a song on the air.
If you live near one of the stations listed by all means call and request the song, otherwise all you are doing os annoying the DJ’s.
RCA has the roll-out scheduled for this coming week, they will doing promotion leading up to the AMA’s, GMA, Letterman, etc. Outside the bubble of Idol not very many people know about this song or TFM.
Adam is a new artist, it takes time for new artists to get serious radio play. If you want to hear him on the radio right now go to WPLJ in NY and listen live, they have the song on full rotation.
Adam is getting huge support form RCA, getting him on the AMA and Letterman for a start are pretty big deals.

Yikes screwed up my quotes. Should be, but can’t edit:

Love, Love, love Dave Grohl. And since we are all committing sacriledge here, I am not a Zep fan and I love the Foo Fighters more than Nirvana. Yeah. I said it.

LOL. That’s OK Studio57, Cook likes Pearl Jam more than Nirvana, and I still love him. Haha.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1225927/The-end-Aerosmith-Steven-Tyler-quits-band.html

WOW…. and what is going on with Joe’s shirt in that picture?

I just checked Itunes, and LLWD is up to 88! At least it appears like the radio play is getting a few more sales. FYE is at 63, which isn’t great but I’m sure with some radio play it will go up. I really would not count the AMA’s as some kind of make or break situation for the song though. I think people are vastly overestimating the impact of the AMA’s. It is only watched by around 10 million people, about half the audience of the grammys. I have never thought of it as terribly relevant either, unlike the VMA’s. Also, I know a lot of viewers are country fans, because the fan favorite vote has almost always been a country artist, and I am sure that audience will have no interest in Adam. Just like This Is It did not lead to a massive burst of sales for TFM like people were ranting about, I don’t expect to wake up the day after the AMA’s and see FYE at the top of Itunes.

Until your station is added here they will not play the song no matter how many times you call or text or email!

Well, a song doesnt have to be added to be played. I follow yes.com and a lot of spins come from stations that did not yet add FYE. Last ones were WXAJ, WKSE and KKSN. Those test spins cannot be requested?

Adam is a new artist, it takes time for new artists to get serious radio play.

So true. This is valid for both Kris and Adam.

Here is the Mediabase link for the stations that have added FYE
http://addboard.mediabase.com/SongAddHistory.asp?Sngcde=LAMBFYE&ob=1&format=XX

Thanks for the info. I check that site everyday. There’s a glam fansite on Twitter that is listing those and suggesting Adam fans listen online and send in online requests. I wold never contact a station that has never played the song. If it has at least a few times, it didn’t seem to be a problem to nicely request that they so again (e.g., KISS 108 FM in Boston, that played it this morning, tho it is not yet an official add). It has been 14 stations since Wednesday, which does not strike me as terrific, but maybe there will be more this coming week.

Awwwww! how adorable is THIS???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIBlbln1gNE

Studio 57, it’s adorable to the max. Really liked Simon Cowell babbling incoherently in the refrain, too…I was listening for him to say that Alli has no personality too…

Awwwww! how adorable is THIS???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIBlbln1gNE

Aww…

Boy, do I miss the edit function; sorry for the plethora of typos in my last post. *thwap*

I just checked Itunes, and LLWD is up to 88! At least it appears like the radio play is getting a few more sales. FYE is at 63, which isn’t great but I’m sure with some radio play it will go up. I really would not count the AMA’s as some kind of make or break situation for the song though. I think people are vastly overestimating the impact of the AMA’s.
…

Just like This Is It did not lead to a massive burst of sales for TFM like people were ranting about, I don’t expect to wake up the day after the AMA’s and see FYE at the top of Itunes.

Indeed, which is why the radio and other promotions are going to be important leading up to, and following the AMAs. Apparantly RCA will be doing this next week, because yeah, doing it leading up to when it was released or immediately after didn’t happen (though I think it should have). But bygones.

As for sales, I expect that with it being down 63 already, yikes! that sales migh very well be less than the relatively disappointing sales of TfM’s of 50,000ish. Of course it wasn’t avail on iTunes the full time either, and it was glitchy as hell there as well for a few days afterwards. But still.

So I hope that RCA learned it’s lesson with TfM and we see some groundwork being laid and done next week.

Meanwhile, great news about LLWD being back up so high. w00t! I think it’s the radio play and the buzz about the video getting out there. So well done, and hope to see some more movement upwards for Kris and Adam both. Oh and Allison, though that seems like spitting in the wind. sigh.

It’s interesting to follow LLWD since it had a very slow beginning. I still think it’s a single with potential.

It seems radioplay really is the key to selling singles. Though tv is another way if wee look at Glee but only just when it happens.

Just gotta say, I’ve been stuck here all day trying to get 2010 Winter Olympics Tickets online (woefully unsuccessful so far, but fingers crossed) and this discussion has been a lifesaver/brainsaver

I just saw on the Vancouver Sun website that there are lots of issues with the 2010 ticket site right now. Good luck!

ETA: Now they’ve decided to stop the sale altogether and try again on Nov 14th (for the final lot of tickets). Bad week for internet vendors.

I just checked Itunes, and LLWD is up to 88!

Now it is up to 85. It’s having a good day. I wonder if the video is helping too.

It is only watched by around 10 million people, about half the audience of the grammys.

“Only” 10 million viewers for the AMAs? Not bad exposure. If 1% of those viewers go buy the album, that’s 100,000 albums sold from that one exposure. Not bad….

Looking a Kris, who had 2 weeks without promotion after his first radio gig, I don’t think it will hurt Adam if they pospone the promotion for a while if he needs to prepare for AMA.

Sometimes we talk as if landing the 2012 soundtrack thing and the AMA’s is a hindrance in his promotion. It so is not.

Adam also has the advantage of being in the news even if he is not promoting.

I just checked Itunes, and LLWD is up to 88! At least it appears like the radio play is getting a few more sales. FYE is at 63, which isn’t great but I’m sure with some radio play it will go up.

See this is what i don’t get. Adam fans (including ME btw) have been freaking out over the I-Tunes mess over the last few days and yet FYE, which has only been out about one week, is doing better than LLWD which has been out about two months.
Shouldn’t we be happy about this? What am I not understanding?

‘Only’  10 million viewers for the AMAs? Not bad exposure. If 1% of those viewers go buy the album, that’s 100,000 albums sold from that one exposure. Not bad’ ¦.

Way to completely miss my point. I didn’t say it was a bad gig, but it is not this huge event that everyone here is acting like it is. Could it help sales, yes! Will it save poor sales, no! Adam would get more viewers if he performed his song on freaking Dancing With the Stars results show or 60 Minutes.

See this is what i don’t get. Adam fans (including ME btw) have been freaking out over the I-Tunes mess over the last few days and yet FYE, which has only been out about one week, is doing better than LLWD which has been out about two months.
Shouldn’t we be happy about this? What am I not understanding?

I got one word – a freaking small fan base

Shouldn’t we be happy about this? What am I not understanding?

People can be thrilled about whatever they like.

Usually, the first week of sales of a single are higher than average due to pent up demand. People have been waiting for the single to be released and are eager to buy it. From there, there is normally an exponential drop (60%, 40%, 25%, 20%, etc) until airplay starts supporting it enough stop the drop and continue the moving of units.

Many Kris fans are excited because, although the song is far from hitting it’s post-release peak, it has reversed the dropping trend, gone through a stabilization phase and is now up. Last week week at this time, it was sitting in the 150s (partially due to the Halloween rush) so to now be in the 80s is exciting. Pretty much all the fans have purchased and so these are likely new buyers. It’s always nice to be moving up the charts.

It’s like when the weather is changing. In the fall, after getting used to the 80 degrees of summer, 40 degrees seems very, very cold. But, after the winter, after getting used to sub-freezing temperatures, 40 degrees actually feels kind of warm.

I didn’t say it was a bad gig, but it is not this huge event that everyone here is acting like it is.

If the show has 10 million viewers (I have no idea how many viewers it has) it’s a big gig.

But it is also an industry gig, I would guess it gives you cred as a performer.

Adam is international superstar . He has to sell huge. Kris is nobody. How can you compare them ?

but I will add the key similarity between cook and adam. For me, they both have complete command of the stage, enough so that they almost demand all your attention when they are doing their thing. They are confident and are so at home with what they are doing that it shines through to the audience.

koshka, I think you’ve said what I forgot to say, the most important thing! You can’t be a true, lasting star without this quality.

Also, another similarity between DC and Adam: both were risk takers, even if Adam was reading from the DC playbook. With Adam RoF was maybe even more than risky, it was ____________ ____________(don’t dare to say the words).

I liked Cookie’s “Billie Jean” better than MJ too. So put me down for the Inquisition or the rack or whatever.

Dave Grohl was never in the limelight during the Nirvana days because 1) Curt Cobain absorbed all the limelight and 2) Dave was just the drummer. But after the untimely death of Cobain, Dave’s new group, Foo Fighters, made its own identity outside Nirvana as you say, and Dave became….a vocalist! And “Everlong” is in my top ten hits of all time.

Someone mentioned “Stairway to heaven”, probably Led Zep’s number one hit of all time. I used to work at this newspaper with this gal named Christy, and she was Led Zep Fan #1 there, and I was #2, and when I was downtown one day, I spotted her in her car stopped at a stop light. Although it was winter and the car windows were rolled up, she had her stereo (with 8-tracks, probably) cranked up so high you could hear it anyway, and I looked closer, and saw her rocking like crazy in the driver’s seat to the song. She was in another world. I wondered what was going to happen when the light turned green!

I think the AMAs will help b/c it’s the day before the album drops. If it doesn’t help FYE (single)’s sales, it should certainly give the album drop a huge boost, no? Because there are certainly a lot of ppl who watch it who are NOT inside the Idol bubble/ that relatively small database. They go, hrm, like that guy (hopefully), see that his album drops the next day, maybe see him on a couple of shows (GMA, Letterman!), and then download the album, or at least the single, b/c they liked it on the AMAs/GMA/Letterman, etc. So while I am not enthralled at all with the sales or the plays of FYE, single, I think FYE album will do very well (it’s had nearly all positive reviews on the snippets, and how much better can Adam interview and how many more people can he charm? ).

RCA has got to get him out there, but it does seem like it’s going to be a slow burn. I have NO idea what they are doing with Alli right now, but it ain’t working.

And yeah, Aerosmith is Joe AND Steven. It is not Aerosmith without both of them. Perry is touring behind his solo album, but he is not playing any Aerosmith songs, as far as I know, which is smart.

Adam also has the advantage of being in the news even if he is not promoting.

And yet that’s not translating right now to sales. So his team and record company need to start trying to do that. And no, I don’t think waiting around and preparing for one event like the AMAs is the way to go. Again, it doesn’t take much to do other promo events over the phone or whatever. It’s not going to consume too much of his time, and acts much bigger and successful than Adam, do these kinds of radio tours all the time. So best to start asap and keep the pressure up. Not just twiddle their thumbs, promotionally for the single speaking, and hoping that one event is a make or break. I mean, what if it’s a fail? like the cover. That would not be of goodness and all eggs in basket, will be broken/wasted.

Yep, I forgot. Two biggest risks:
Cook covering Billie Jean
Adam covering RoF

Either could have gotten them punted off the program (I actually think Adam got lucky, and he admits that he wish he had sung it later, b/c he really pushed the envelope with that one, and didn’t have an established fan base). But it set him for other risky moves, like PTFM, so it was all good. And after Cook sang Billie Jean, I was a fan for life.

I have been listening to KIIS all day in hopes of hearing FYE (unlikely, I realize). Well, of course they didn’t play it, so ba bye, KIIS. Back to Mix in Boston. Gotta go home now, so check in later.

Kirsten are you in Canada? If so, are you looking at U.S. itunes charts? LLWD is not even on the overall chart in itunes Canada and it is 101 on the pop chart.

Allison is no where to be seen…

And yet that’s not translating right now to sales.

Well the last big media circle Adam created was over his album cover and then the single wasn’t even out. I agree with you that radio promotion should be done but I think they know what they are doing. Kris didn’t do any when he was finishing recording his album, no matter how little time that is supposed to take.

Speaking of Cook commanding the stage, take a look at this group number from Season 7 and tell me you don’t see “star” and “it” as soon as David opens his mouths!

Season 7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg8kFeddbuQ

I didn’t say it was a bad gig, but it is not this huge event that everyone here is acting like it is. Could it help sales, yes! Will it save poor sales, no!

Well, I think it IS a huge event as what everyone here act to, not in term of sales, but in term of Adam’s LIVE performance, after the almost unbearable 2 months (or 6 month if you didn’t go to the tour concert), of his NEW song, on TV!!!!

(I know that’s probably is not your point…. I got so excited by justing thinking about the performance )

I think the AMA performance is huge! It won’t just be 10 million viewers. It will be 10 million viewers of people who most likely download and buy music. It will end 1 hour before Adam’s album becomes available.

This just announced:

The 37th annual American Music Awards have lined up a few more acts to take the stage at the show on November 22. Green Day, Shakira, and Mary J. Blige have joined the performers list, which includes Rihanna, Jay-Z and Adam Lambert, to name a few, for the awards show that will air live on ABC. ”

Man, those country music fans are gonna be in HOG HEAVEN!

The AMAs is a big deal. I think that he is the first idol to be invited inside to perform right off of the show, without having put any music out. There is a lot more to Adam than just his amazing voice, hence the buzz.

If it had been any other contestant-that fan base would have been equally as excited as Adams fans are.

Kirsten are you in Canada? If so, are you looking at U.S. itunes charts? LLWD is not even on the overall chart in itunes Canada and it is 101 on the pop chart.

I’m in Canada, but I’m quoting the US charts. People are generally more interested in the US market, you can’t get reliable leaks for Canadian numbers and this is American Idol (written in my best Ryan Seacrest impersonation).

I’m not surprised LLWD is nowhere to be found on the Canadian iTunes since it’s getting very little airplay support at all in Canada (some in Montreal and one spin in Kelowna). Canadian stations generally ignore American Idols until they get so high on the American charts, they can’t anymore.

Season 7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg8kFeddbuQ

I think Brooke shines pretty bright there…

And no, I don’t think waiting around and preparing for one event like the AMAs is the way to go. Again, it doesn’t take much to do other promo events over the phone or whatever. It’s not going to consume too much of his time, and acts much bigger and successful than Adam, do these kinds of radio tours all the time.

You know what, I starting suspecting that those radio interviews do cost $$ and RCA has spent all their FYE promotion budget in preparing that AMA performance, you know dancers, costumes and pyro, etc, so there is no money left to ‘buy’ radio interview/gigs. I’m so worried.

Just like This Is It did not lead to a massive burst of sales for TFM like people were ranting about,

Sony had a major change of plans at the last minute by not showing the mv of TfM before TII. That’s why TII didn’t make any kind of impact on TfM. They only showed cartoons before TII at the IMAX theature where I went. I’m hearing many people saying where they saw TII, either they didn’t play TfM, or a just a little snippet.

Sony had a press release indicating they were going to show the mv of TfM before TII, but they didn’t have another one for their change of plans.

RCA pays for the AMA performance?

PattyH – I hadn’t watched that in like forever. so much fun.
What’s wrong with me that I kinda like the cheesy group number and cheesy Ford commercials from this cheesy show.

RCA pays for the AMA performance?

I don’t think so. I think it’s paid for by the AMA people. Odd if it was RCA’s money, but honestly don’t know and can’t be bothered to google it.

Vis-a-vis paying for the radio interviews, I don’t think so. I think the radios are happy to have certain people on their airwaves, might help them with more listeners, and in return the labels are happy to make people available. I would guess so. No idea though, I’m sure others here have more knowledge than I do about that kind of thing.

Season 7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg8kFeddbuQ

I think Brooke shines pretty bright there’ ¦

I think Jason shines too. I love when he uses his lower register. But still, for me, when Cook comes out! It’s a whole new ballgame!

Now I want to re-watch every S7 group performance… Forgot how fun they were. Cheese-tastic!

RCA pays for the AMA performance?

Yes. RCA won’t pay to be on the show, but they will pay for the performance. They will need to pay for the costumes, the musicians and the back-up dancers (if there are any). If there are dancers, they will likely also pay a choreographer to come up with the routine, rent places for them to practice and pay them to practice as a group. Same with the musicians. Depending on how fancy the performance is, there may also be somebody paid to come up with the entire concept.

If Adam just goes out and sings the song, it will be cheaper. Or if he just gets all those youtube dancers, the baby and the cat to back him up, he can also keep the budget down. I don’t see either of those things happening.

And yet that’s not translating right now to sales. So his team and record company need to start trying to do that. And no, I don’t think waiting around and preparing for one event like the AMAs is the way to go. Again, it doesn’t take much to do other promo events over the phone or whatever. It’s not going to consume too much of his time, and acts much bigger and successful than Adam, do these kinds of radio tours all the time. So best to start asap and keep the pressure up. Not just twiddle their thumbs, promotionally for the single speaking, and hoping that one event is a make or break. I mean, what if it’s a fail? like the cover. That would not be of goodness and all eggs in basket, will be broken/wasted.

It’s either meant to be for Adam or it isn’t. He’s got a ton of built in advantages and I suspect his first week album sales will be very, very good.

Adam is the last AIer whose failure would credibly be blamed on “lack of promo.” He’s in the mainstream consciousness in a way no other AIer has been since Clay Aiken. Plus, be patient. The AMA’s haven’t even happened yet. It makes perfect sense to use the AMA’s as the launching point. Let the hardcore fans get the single now and then maybe the rest will storm iTunes for it after the AMAs.

I think Jason shines too. I love when he uses his lower register. But still, for me, when Cook comes out! It’s a whole new ballgame!

Without being too invested in S7, from this perfomance alone I would pick out Brooke. I saw some of her own performances and she was shaky at times so I understand why she didn’t win. MJ once commented on that RCA made a mistake by not signing her (I think), and I agree.

I am equally interested in stats outside of the U.S. – you know – the whole worldwide star thing

TFM is still on the charts in Canada and I don’t think it has had a single spin in Canada

Usually, the first week of sales of a single are higher than average due to pent up demand. People have been waiting for the single to be released and are eager to buy it. From there, there is normally an exponential drop (60%, 40%, 25%, 20%, etc) until airplay starts supporting it enough stop the drop and continue the moving of units.

Thanks for the explanation Kirsten. It does clear it up a bit for me. However I don’t think this holds true as much for FYE. The pent up demand was satisfied for many fans by AO.

GaryJ, love your post and totally agree with what you said. I am a fan of LZ but now I prefer Adam ´s version of WLL and can hardly listen to anybody else.
I know that Adam also has many fans in Argentina, Chile, Colombia and Brazil. Unfortunately, I think he is not known in Spain, yet. I am spreading the voice, though

k0ka
11/07/2009 at 5:17 pm
Adam is international superstar . He has to sell huge. Kris is nobody. How can you compare them ?

Um, I hope you are joking. Adam is NOT an international superstar. He hasn’t had a Top 40 hit in the U.S. yet, let alone overseas. Most people who live outside the U.S. have no clue who he is. In fact, a high percentage of people who live IN the U.S. have little or no clue who he is.

What Adam IS is a fantastic singer/musician who is unique and charismati and who has the POTENTIAL to be very successful. He has gotten a lot more press than most other new artists. But until he starts racking up hits, winning awards and/or sellign out his solo concerts, he cannot be cionsidered an international superstar. aybe one day in the future he will be a superstar, but right now — no.

Meanwhile, neither is Kris a “nobody”. Just because he isn’t on the cover of magazines that doesn’t make him a nobody. In fact, to this point in their careers, it can be argued that Kris has been more successful — depending, of course, on how you measure “success”. Neither one of them has come close to the success of either of the Davids from S7. And I don’t see anyone calling Cook or Archie any kind of superstar — let alone an international one.

Kris didn’t do any when he was finishing recording his album, no matter how little time that is supposed to take.

Yeah, but Adam’s album is done and has been done for a bit now, and most of Adam’s promo time that he has had time to do, was for 2012. Which fine and dandy, but that’s not going anywhere and that kind of energy/time he has, needs to be single promoting time. He obviously has the time, he’s good at it, so now he needs RCA to line it up for him to do. I really hope they do as part of their supposed push next week. We’ll see.

Guys, isn’t it possible Adam contracted to live debut FYE on the AMAs and therefore cannot promote it elsewhere beforehand? He has got GMAs and Ellen lined up shortly thereafter.

TFM is still on the charts in Canada and I don’t think it has had a single spin in Canada

It has. I remember everybody getting excited here when a DJ on Vancouver’s 95.3 tweeted that they were going to be debuting the song during their new music whatever hour. 95.3 loves Adam. They even played his version of NoBo. Besides, it’s only a few weeks old. It’s still chewing through it’s fan base (60,40,25,20, etc)

Sony had a major change of plans at the last minute by not showing the mv of TfM before TII. That’s why TII didn’t make any kind of impact on TfM. They only showed cartoons before TII at the IMAX theature where I went. I’m hearing many people saying where they saw TII, either they didn’t play TfM, or a just a little snippet.

Was that ever the original plan or did fans read something into the whole thing that was never really meant to be there? Even with the original plan I doubt TfM would have shot to #1. Besides, there is still the opportunity of exposing it in the ending credits of 2012 night after night, or will that not be true promo for one reason or another?

This idea being formulated that somehow Adam’s destiny is being thwarted by incompetence or bad luck just doesn’t fly after months of “Adamstorm!” stuff and never before seen mainstream and Hollywood publicity, everything from Rolling Stone to movie premieres to tabloid press to Oprah Winfrey.

Guys, isn’t it possible Adam contracted to live debut FYE on the AMAs and therefore cannot promote it elsewhere beforehand?

No, because he promoted on Ryan’s show. If he can’t promote it, he wouldn’t have done that interview. Plus, that would be a crappy deal. If the AMA thing didn’t work out for some reason (gets pre-empted by some slow speed car chase or Michael Jackson’s doctor getting arrested or maybe some actual news) then he’s got very little to fall back on. It’s a huge gamble.

He has got GMAs and Ellen lined up shortly thereafter.

Most Idols (and other artists) do TV when their albums come out. Not their singles.

I just checked Itunes, and LLWD is up to 88! At least it appears like the radio play is getting a few more sales. FYE is at 63, which isn’t great but I’m sure with some radio play it will go up. I really would not count the AMA’s as some kind of make or break situation for the song though. I think people are vastly overestimating the impact of the AMA’s. It is only watched by around 10 million people, about half the audience of the grammys. I have never thought of it as terribly relevant either, unlike the VMA’s. Also, I know a lot of viewers are country fans, because the fan favorite vote has almost always been a country artist, and I am sure that audience will have no interest in Adam. Just like This Is It did not lead to a massive burst of sales for TFM like people were ranting about, I don’t expect to wake up the day after the AMA’s and see FYE at the top of Itunes.

AMA’s are exposure, any exposure like that is good. You are correct, it’s not the Grammy’s but the same group of entertainers will be there. Millions of people will see Adam perform.
People who buy country music will also buy other genre’s same as pop or rock people sometimes buy country music. Saying the country audience has no interest in Adam is not true.
This is Is did not even have any TFM in the IMAX showings, it was on the screen for 30 seconds in the other theater’s. If anyone thought this was going to cause people to run out and buy TFM they are delusional. The movie opens next week, if it doesn’t get sales after the movie opens then there is a problem, right now, not so much.
All the hand wringing and freaking out about the song is iTunes is so crazy. The song was put up for sale on AO and Amazon first that’s where most people bought it. iTunes is not the be all and end all of music. Next week soundscan will tell us how many copies were sold, that’s what matters.
FYE the Album has been in the top 10 best sellers for 42 days now, that’s a good thing. The entire industry is behind Adam, they love him. He is never outside the press bubble because he is the next “Hot” guy. The song will get played, the song will sell. Adam will be a star.
The AI online fans are not the ones to make or break a singer.

Yes. RCA won’t pay to be on the show, but they will pay for the performance. They will need to pay for the costumes, the musicians and the back-up dancers (if there are any). If there are dancers, they will likely also pay a choreographer to come up with the routine, rent places for them to practice and pay them to practice as a group. Same with the musicians. Depending on how fancy the performance is, there may also be somebody paid to come up with the entire concept.

If Adam just goes out and sings the song, it will be cheaper. Or if he just gets all those youtube dancers, the baby and the cat to back him up, he can also keep the budget down. I don’t see either of those things happening.

I stand corrected. So yes, that is worrisome then if RCA is paying for that and egg/basketing. Worrisome because it would be stupid.

But I think that act with the cat, baby and amateur dancers would be unexpected, cheap and d’awwwwwww. So for that alone, I’d pay a dollar to see that happen.

Usually, the first week of sales of a single are higher than average due to pent up demand. People have been waiting for the single to be released and are eager to buy it. From there, there is normally an exponential drop (60%, 40%, 25%, 20%, etc) until airplay starts supporting it enough stop the drop and continue the moving of units.

Thanks for the explanation Kirsten. It does clear it up a bit for me. However I don’t think this holds true as much for FYE. The pent up demand was satisfied for many fans by AO.

I think that’s an assumption and one I personally am not comfortable making, but even if it turns out to be correct, that doen’t address the drops in iTunes even in the first week when it should be stronger, before other natural drops. Hence the need for airplay/whatever to stabilize and hopefully grow the sales from there. So right now, big drop on iTunes with expected drops next week even more (which we have seen already) and nothing set up right now to promote that we know of, until 11/22. tick tock tick tock. Time to start the radio supporting clock. Album drop is not too far away.

Being on the AMAs should help Adam with his promotion. But I think RCA really should start setting up some radio interviews and local press, rather than fousing so much on the national stuff.

Kris has been working his butt off promoting LLWD and himself. I’ve lost track of how many radio interviews he’s done, plus all these smaller appearances like last night’s gig and the tailgate party. AND he will be getting the ational stuff like GMA, Conan, etc. Even with all that, LLWD isn’t a huge hit and may never be one. So I think it’s rather disingenuous to think that Adam ould become this huge success without doing more localized promotion. Not everyone watches the AMAs or reads Rolling Stone. Do an interview with some radio station in whereverville, they will have more incentive to play his music, especially if listeners start requesting it.

Meanwhile, Jive needs to get off its butt and start getting Allison some promotion, because FIBOU is sinking like a stone on iTunes. Even though her style isn’t similar, she is still going to have to fight with the Mileys, Demis, Selenas, etc. for that younger fanbase. Allison has a way weaker fanbase coming off AI than Adam, Kris or Danny. Jive/19 needs to get her some gigs and start promoting her a lot stronger.

This idea being formulated that somehow Adam’s destiny is being thwarted by incompetence or bad luck just doesn’t fly after months of ‘Adamstorm!’  stuff and never before seen mainstream and Hollywood publicity, everything from Rolling Stone to movie premieres to tabloid press to Oprah Winfrey.

I am certainly not formulating that idea. I am trying to say that landing the soundtrack to a big distaster movie, performing at the AMA, Letterman and possible on Oprah is NOT a bad thing. They might have to alter their promotion plans to fit everything in and porspone certain things that we would normally expect. You know, what has to be done now and what can be done later?

Adams and his people knows what needs to be done, he is no way lazy so I think they are doing the best they can with the circumstances they have.

It is also important to do whatever it is that you are going to do well and not kill yourself so there is nothing left the day you stand there and has to perform on the AMA’s.

Until your station is added here they will not play the song no matter how many times you call or text or email!

That’s not true. WPRO in Providence played it the last 3 days on request and also WXLO.

It seems that the fans are the ones getting pressured if their idols don’t sell. Adam’s single had been out only for one week and from what it seems, the radios are not picking it up yet. Kris’ single has been out for more than a month now and has done radio promotions. Has it been translating to sales? Just be patient. If it’s bound to happen that they will be superstars, then they will be. Relax.

This is my first year following an AIer on blogs. Can someone tell me, is all the angst, paranoia, impatience, second guessing, anger and pessimism normal?? Last year I was a Cook fan and was happy when the single and album came out and just bought. Was it like this here then too?

But I think that act with the cat, baby and amateur dancers would be unexpected, cheap and d’awwwwwww. So for that alone, I’d pay a dollar to see that happen.

I was thinking that might actually work. Either that, or Adam could crash a wedding and dance down the aisles. Think outside of the box, people! LOL.

Can someone tell me, is all the angst, paranoia, impatience, second guessing, anger and pessimism normal??

Yes

Was it like this here then too?

Yes

LOL! It’s nothing new… I was fairly new here last year but the folks who were the “veterans” from previous years said that last year was the same as the previous and so on…

If Adam just goes out and sings the song, it will be cheaper. Or if he just gets all those youtube dancers, the baby and the cat to back him up, he can also keep the budget down.

I’m still waiting for the dancing granny. That is about the only thing we haven’t had, yet!!

See this is what i don’t get. Adam fans (including ME btw) have been freaking out over the I-Tunes mess over the last few days and yet FYE, which has only been out about one week, is doing better than LLWD which has been out about two months.
Shouldn’t we be happy about this? What am I not understanding?

LLWD and FYE are at two different phases of their release, so I probably wouldn’t view their chart position on iTunes in the same way. FYE’s position represents the initial fanbase rush to buy that usually happens in the first week of release. The Kris fans have already purchased LLWD and that single already experienced its own rapid tumble down the iTunes chart that usually happens once the fans finish buying. Now airplay is kicking in and LLWD is beginning to climb back up the iTunes chart. Right now there’s not a whole lot to support sales of FYE, but that will change soon with more exposure and increased radio airplay.

I wouldn’t stress over FYE at this point. I disagree that RCA was caught flat footed. I think RCA knows what they’re doing and they aren’t going to panic if the first week sales aren’t spectacular. They have a plan in place to push this single-one week isn’t going to make or break this song. The story of this song’s trajectory will not be told in the first week. It’s still very early.

As for the AMAs, maybe their importance has been overestimated but I don’t think the impact of an AMAs performance should be underestimated either. If Adam turns in a kickass, showstopping performance of FYE, it will be huge for him. It would be the talk of all the morning radio shows the following day, and it would likely be the talk of all the entertainment news programs as well. Word will spread beyond the audience that will watch the AMAs live, and that could have a very positive impact on FYE’s download sales. Not to mention that it could earn Adam some new fans who might be inclined to check out his album when it’s released later this month. We’ll see what happens.

No, because he promoted on Ryan’s show. If he can’t promote it, he wouldn’t have done that interview.

Most Idols (and other artists) do TV when their albums come out. Not their singles.

Ahh. Thanks.

GaryJ

It so happens Adam somehow affected me and reached a personal wavelength that no other performer has ever connected with. I don’t know how it happened. I wasn’t expecting it. I can’t really explain it, except maybe to other Adam fans, because they have experienced pretty much the same thing, and sort of know what I’m talking about. If Adam announced on Monday that his first solo performance was going to be in Vancouver in January, I’d be looking for flights to and hotels there’ ¦

You’re brilliant – LOVE all your posts today. Exactly how I feel Gary – I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – if they announce he’ll perform with Queen at some point, I’ll fly to London (or wherever it is).

I like Adam’s WLL better than LZ’s also (but then I was never a big fan of that group, just the song). I also love his version of I Just Love You but I think my fav from Upright Cabaret is Come Home – makes me tear up. I figured out how to convert those from youtube and get them into my iPhone – I’ve become very “techy” in my devotion to all things Adam. Even managed to get that 2 hour movie of all his AI moments onto a DVD – that was challenging.

Thanks for sharing your very articulate posts about Adam! I’m so anxious for others to love him (maybe not as much as I do but at least enough so that we’ll get more albums, performances, etc.) and thanks for your part!

But I think that act with the cat, baby and amateur dancers would be unexpected, cheap and d’awwwwwww.

I don’t know. The baby’s all legs jumping up and down. The cat’s all head rolls, no paw movements at all. They are not in sync. And what kind of set would they build? A huge mock kitchen? A set built like someone’s guest bedroom? A garage with paint cans along the sides? That costs $$ too.

Thanks for the info, Tierbee, good to know!!

This, too, shall pass. And then you can worry about singles, or lack of singles, or cougars (rawr), or hair, or whatever. I guess the good news is it gets better but I don’t know that it is good news that I’m still here fretting over my Cookie, lol.

The 37th annual American Music Awards have lined up a few more acts to take the stage at the show on November 22. Green Day, Shakira, and Mary J. Blige have joined the performers list, which includes Rihanna, Jay-Z and Adam Lambert, to name a few, for the awards show that will air live on ABC. ‘ 

The AMA is a huge huge deal. if it was small fish, why are all these big names doing it. Jay z in particular seems snobbish to me so if he’s doing it then it’s big. There are like 18/19 performances that day and I can’t wait to see Adam in the mist of them and if it is epic as I hope it will be then years from now we will still be seeing the performance on MTV top live performances.

Well I am excited that Adam gets to play with the big girls and boys at the AMA! I can hardly wait to see what he will do. Dancers? Pyro? I want leaks now!

This idea being formulated that somehow Adam’s destiny is being thwarted by incompetence or bad luck just doesn’t fly after months of ‘Adamstorm!’  stuff and never before seen mainstream and Hollywood publicity, everything from Rolling Stone to movie premieres to tabloid press to Oprah Winfrey.

I always hated that Adamstorm! crap, not the least of which it was a phrase by that elephant loser. Most of what did happen was generated organically, not from actual promotional stuff. Oprah, from the fans. The articles about it being on Amazon ahead of Babs and The Beatles? from the fans putting it there and other places picking it up. The promotions done on purpose that I’ve seen have mostly been by Sony for 2012. The FYE promotion I’ve seen thus far was Ryan’s show…and? The rest of it has been done by reviews, or stuff on the internet or news stories from stuff on the internet. Oh and tabloids sooo don’t count, because well, that’s personal and so not something set up to promote the music, or indeed even the person, per se.

Anyhew, hate Adamstorm! as a phrase, always have, always will. My least favourite Adam phrase that only just edges out another one I won’t mention. Oh and after looking at the impressive list people generated when asked about DC’s appearances last year, not really seeing the unprecented levels of media promotion for Adam by his label.

Just got a chance to listen to Danny’s new single. Tho I didn’t vote for him (I voted for Adam and Kris) I always liked his voice and I think the new song is beautiful and I will def buy his CD when it comes out.

A set built like someone’s guest bedroom? A garage with paint cans along the sides? That costs $$ too.

Just tell them to leave Gaga’s set up. Whatever it is, they’ll just have to roll with it. The baby already has wheels, so it should be easy for it to roll. Cats are adaptive and those ammature dancers have already demonstrated their versatility. After dancing in garages and kitchens, they won’t have a problem with whatever Gaga is into these days.

Was that ever the original plan or did fans read something into the whole thing that was never really meant to be there? Even with the original plan I doubt TfM would have shot to #1.

How could fans make up such a story.There was a press release from Sony. I never said TfM would shoot up to #1 if Sony had stayed with the original plan. I was just responding to gangreen when she said TII didn’t help TfM sales like all the fans were ranting about.

I don’t think Sony intended on promoting TfM for single sales. I think they were just interested in promoting the movie, and TfM was just a small part of the movie. When you think about it, which priority would you take? Making $200,000 on a song or $400 million on the movie?

Oh and after looking at the impressive list people generated when asked about DC’s appearances last year, not really seeing the unprecented levels of media promotion for Adam by his label.

It’s not always about quantity. Quality is important too. (And this is in no way meant as a diss towards David C…)

Sony had a major change of plans at the last minute by not showing the mv of TfM before TII. That’s why TII didn’t make any kind of impact on TfM. They only showed cartoons before TII at the IMAX theature where I went. I’m hearing many people saying where they saw TII, either they didn’t play TfM, or a just a little snippet.

I was never convinced that the actual MV was going to play before TII, (there seemed to be conflicting or at least unclear statements on the subject). Then after I saw the MV I wondered why they would ever show it, since it clearly gives the ending away.

Man, those country music fans are gonna be in HOG HEAVEN!

teehee

i think the AMA performance is high profile, and FYE is gonna be moving alot of units on itunes the day after. bonus if adam goes all out, which i am expecting.

Now I want to re-watch every S7 group performance’ ¦ Forgot how fun they were. Cheese-tastic!

Bwah! That was my first thought, too.

DC was my guy, but Brooke was my girl; I adored her. Loved Jason as well. Oh, how I miss those Season 7 peeps.

think the AMA performance is high profile, and FYE is gonna be moving alot of units on itunes the day after. bonus if adam goes all out, which i am expecting.

And don’t forget Letterman and GMA the next day

This is my first year following an AIer on blogs. Can someone tell me, is all the angst, paranoia, impatience, second guessing, anger and pessimism normal?? Last year I was a Cook fan and was happy when the single and album came out and just bought. Was it like this here then too?

Yeah, this is par for course. It wouldn’t be Idol album release season without the angst, the paranoia, the conspiracy theories, second guessing, and course the fanwarring. Ah, who could forget the “massive powerbuying campaign” for Crush, or how RCA concocted a secret plan to buy up millions of copies of Daughtry’s album just to embarrass Taylor and the Soul Patrol. Oh, and I can’t forget RCA’s targeted Cook pimpage/spam email campaign. LOL. I’m just grateful that I’m not really invested in anyone from season eight. I can sit back, relax, and enjoy from the sidelines.

Was trying to sum up who is performning on the AMA’s. So far I have;

Daughtry
Adam Lambert
Carrie Underwood
Kelly Clarkson
Jay-Z, Alicia Keyes
Jennifer Lopez
BEP
Lady Gaga
Shakira
Rihanna
Green Day
Mary J. Blige

I know there will be 18 performances, am I missing anyone? Is Katy Perry, Beyonce or Taylor performing?

GaryJ, love your post and totally agree with what you said. I am a fan of LZ but now I prefer Adam ´s version of WLL and can hardly listen to anybody else.

Adam’s version of WLL is so unique and personal it can’t really be compared to Led Zep’s. They are both fantastic and, really different, performances of the same song. Neither detracts from the other.

I heard that Simon Cowell spoke personally with (I assume) Robert Plant to get permission to cover WLL on American Idol. Wish we could read a transcript of that conversation, but I think Plant really respects Adam and admires his singing talent, and was persuaded to give his OK pretty easily for that reason. It’s interesting how professionals really relate to Adam.

I know that Adam also has many fans in Argentina, Chile, Colombia and Brazil. Unfortunately, I think he is not known in Spain, yet. I am spreading the voice, though

For some reason, Adam is big in South America and the Caribbean, but not Spain.

But, American performers are huge in Spain. Bruce Springsteen just wrapped up a tour in Spain, and a riot almost broke out in Seville when it looked like he wasn’t going to be able to play there (I think they worked it out so he could, or there would have been a very serious problem!).

The Spanish, especially Andalusians, tend to be more emotional people than, say, Germans, and they appreciate people who are authentic. Adam is a perfect fit for Spain. I know they will come to love Adam once they become acquainted with him. It’s just a matter of time. They love American acts there — I think Guns ‘N’Roses set attendance records in Madrid years back, so many ticket sales they had to add days.

When I was in Spain, it was during the Franco years, and hardly anyone spoke English. Spain has totally changed since then, is now part of the UE, and now almost everyone, but especially young people, speak English.

When Adam does break the ice in Spain, they will warmly adopt him as if he is their own!

I know there will be 18 performances, am I missing anyone?

Keith Urban was announced today (and he has an Idol tie-in!)

Brightside – we don’t have to worry about Take Two selling because Adam will not be involve in any promotions for that.

Thank you CindyM for asking the question about past years, and Tierbee for answering it. Was curious about that myself. I too only started following post AI season because of my Adam obsession. I’m very optimistic about his future. Even if he doesn’t become the superstar I expect that he’ll be, I’m confident that he’ll make a comfortable living doing what he loves, and entertaining his fans for many years. I’ll be a fan for life.

I heard that Simon Cowell spoke personally with (I assume) Robert Plant to get permission to cover WLL on American Idol. Wish we could read a transcript of that conversation, but I think Plant really respects Adam and admires his singing talent, and was persuaded to give his OK pretty easily for that reason

IIRC, and just my vague understanding, Adam requested to sing the song, the kids of Led Zepplin/people who have the rights to it asked their dads if Adam could sing it, it was approved from that. No Simon/Plant interaction that I’ve ever heard of.

I have a feeling Adam maybe the AMA opening act… don’t know why, I just do

Speaking of Cook commanding the stage, take a look at this group number from Season 7 and tell me you don’t see ‘star’  and ‘it’  as soon as David opens his mouths!

Season 7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg8kFeddbuQ

Thanks for that trip down memory lane. “Brothers and sisters – it’s the Brother Love Show – so show your brother some love”

Yup he’s a star. And the rest of them aren’t bad either. I loved that season.

OK, here it is.
I am technologically challenged. I do not own I-Pod, neither does any of my friends. I do not know how to download anything from I-tunes if my life would depend on it.
But we all are going to buy Adam’s CD on Nov 23.
Am I in minority??

I am just going to take it all day by day. The highs with the lows. The nail biting uncertaintaties and the giddy small victories.

I will listened to FYE and shake my ass. Hell, maybe I should make a video and upload it to youtube. Admittedly, that would be very tragic. However, it might add some smiles to the headlines thread.

Adam sales are spread out all over the place. The initial fan peak is out there somewhere. We are now in the public buying phase. Just gonna sit back and watch. I’m wating for the cheerleading teams to make their routines.

Daughtry is playing at the AMA’s? Urgh. I was a huge fan of his and was horrified when he was voted off. I thought he should’ve won that season. I bought his CD when it came out… listened to it once… and never again. I’m not entirely sure why my opinion has changed so much. These days he strikes me as a complete poser, Nickleback-style. Of course, he’s sold about 5 million albums, so I’m not in the majority. Well, as long as I see Adam perform, I’m happy.

I have a feeling Adam maybe the AMA opening act’ ¦ don’t know why, I just do

Well, I was hoping he would be in the later part but that would probably be too good to be true.

But we all are going to buy Adam’s CD on Nov 23.
Am I in minority??

Indeed not. As I understand it, most album sales are still physical CDs. First and foremost from Walmart, and then going from there.

OK, here it is.
I am technologically challenged. I do not own I-Pod, neither does any of my friends. I do not know how to download anything from I-tunes if my life would depend on it.
But we all are going to buy Adam’s CD on Nov 23.
Am I in minority??

I really don’t think you are. Physical CD sales are still the majority of sales.

And people have to understand this too- Carrie Underwood did not have a number one single on itunes- I don’t even know what her highest placement was, yet she is expected to sell about 300, 000 units of her album this week.

Some people sell singles ( Jordin) some people sell albums ( Carrie). Until those numbers come in, I am not going to stress.

Good news for Kris, he’s going to be on VH1 for the top 20 on 11/21.

Places still play videos and not just reality shows?

Yay! I’m excited for him.

LLWD is currently featured as a Top 20 Premiere on the VH1 website and Kris will be making an appearance on the show on November 21st!

Source: http://www.vh1.com/shows/series/top_20_countdown/

I can’t wait for the AMA Adam show:) But, what I’m looking forward to the most are the music VIDEOS….. especially of Fever, FYE, and Sure Fire Winners(gotta see the glitter baby in leather and lace and all the girls in the club;)) ooohhhh and lest I forget Strut.

“IIRC, and just my vague understanding, it Adam requested to sing the song, the kids of Led Zepplin/people who have the rights to it asked their dads if Adam could sing it, it was approved from that. No Simon/Plant interaction that I’ve ever heard of.”

Wasn’t it the Bono song..I remember Ryan making a joke about Simon asking Bono when they were sitting by Simon’s pool….I think

Oh and after looking at the impressive list people generated when asked about DC’s appearances last year, not really seeing the unprecented levels of media promotion for Adam by his label.

Saga: It’s not always about quantity. Quality is important too. (And this is in no way meant as a diss towards David C’ ¦)

True, but I think that such gigs as Saturday Night Live, Leno (twice) , Kimmel (twice – one a primetime special with Obama), GMA, Regis & Kelly, Ellen (twice) and actually singing on Oprah would count as quality. LOL.

And people have to understand this too- Carrie Underwood did not have a number one single on itunes- I don’t even know what her highest placement was, yet she is expected to sell about 300, 000 units of her album this week.

Some people sell singles ( Jordin) some people sell albums ( Carrie).

Don’t try to twist the facts, Carrie has never had a number one single on itunes but she certainly has had many that have charted in the Top ten, and her singles sell really well. She has three platinum selling singles, and 6 singles that have reached gold (and soon will add another with Cowboy Casanova).

I always hated that Adamstorm! crap, not the least of which it was a phrase by that elephant loser. Most of what did happen was generated organically, not from actual promotional stuff.

But if it raises people’s awareness of him it’s promotion of him and his career, regardless of the wheres and whys. It counts. He’s gotten more organic promotion and more voluntary mainstream press (as in not put up to it by pr people) than any other AIer. There are probably some mainstream, non AI singers and bands who envy the profile Adam has developed. I also think the tabloid stuff counts as publicity because it raises awareness of Adam as an entity and keeps his name in peoples minds. Whether or not that means they follow up and buy his cd is on Adam and whether they like the music, not RCA or 19.

I don’t see the iTunes mess everybody is talking about. As a long time iTunes user I’ve seen snafus on a regular basis that are just part and parcel of that site. FYE wasn’t sabotaged as a result of an iTunes issue. If people wanted the song they’d have found it using the search function. So far people haven’t looked for it in huge numbers. That might well change after the AMAs. Or not. But Adam is getting publicity and has gotten it all along. If (and I consider it a BIG “if”) it doesn’t translate into album sales that’s on Adam and his music, not anything else.

I always hated that Adamstorm! crap, not the least of which it was a phrase by that elephant loser.

So did I. It was only wishful thinking from fans who overused the phrase and it just made the expectations go even higher. The term should be banned.

We all know this: Adam is just a debuting artist, so while the following couple of months will be crucial to get a real measure so we can see how well received is he by the post-AI public he needs to seduce, there’s plenty of time for Adam to promote his single and album, it’s just too early.

I know that Adam also has many fans in Argentina, Chile, Colombia and Brazil. Unfortunately, I think he is not known in Spain, yet. I am spreading the voice, though

TFM is still on the Top 200 in iTunes Mexico (with tons of positive reviews), and it hasn’t even been shown on any 2012 trailer. FYE was added today, let’s see how it does. Adam really has a lot of fans in Latin America. I’m sure he’d love to have a couple of shows around here, we truly are a different, more passionate kind of audience. I have been to some concerts in the USA, but believe me, nothing compares to the warmth of the Latin American public.

Wasn’t it the Bono song..I remember Ryan making a joke about Simon asking Bono when they were sitting by Simon’s pool’ ¦.I think

You remember correctly, it was for One. Which well, that didn’t turn out well at all. And funny that it was made such a big deal of because Rachel on XFactor sang it last week, no big deal. Oh she was so meh, she made me appreciate even Adam’s not-of-goodness live version of the song. Love his studio of the song, such a missed opportunity. Oh well, bygones.

True, but I think that such gigs as Saturday Night Live, Leno (twice) , Kimmel (twice ‘“ one a primetime special with Obama), GMA, Regis & Kelly, Ellen (twice) and actually singing on Oprah would count as quality. LOL.

Damn shooting straight and agreed. So yeah, I think DC got some stellar promotion and he didn’t even have to have a weather pattern associtated with it. Bonus!

And people have to understand this too- Carrie Underwood did not have a number one single on itunes- I don’t even know what her highest placement was, yet she is expected to sell about 300, 000 units of her album this week.

Some people sell singles ( Jordin) some people sell albums ( Carrie). Until those numbers come in, I am not going to stress.

Wise words Studio57. Adam is so talented and charismatic – he is destined to be a star at some point. It may just take some time and the right song. I’m not saying that FYE isn’t a good song, but it may not be his breakthrough single.

I like Adamstorm – it’s fun.

True, but I think that such gigs as Saturday Night Live, Leno (twice) , Kimmel (twice ‘“ one a primetime special with Obama), GMA, Regis & Kelly, Ellen (twice) and actually singing on Oprah would count as quality. LOL.

This is not different from what Adam is doing so I don’t understand what you guys are talking about. He didnt get the first round because he didn’t win. He has Letterman, Ellen, AMA, GMA, rumours about Oprah and SNL. Whats the problem?

The glass is filled to the brim, there is no half full or half empty here. He is getting great promo.

Oh and after looking at the impressive list people generated when asked about DC’s appearances last year, not really seeing the unprecented levels of media promotion for Adam by his label.

Just stepping out of a lurking mood to agree with an aggregate of posts I’ve read hypothesizing that major media appearances are being held off until after the AMAs. It’s a huge deal that Adam is being given this opportunity, and the number of viewers he’ll have for this one night’s performance will undoubtedly make it worth missing out on a few opportunities between now and then. We’re his fans and hope the best for him, so I think we tend to get in this huge hurry to see things happen. I think big things will happen, but I keep having to tell myself to be patient as we wait for things to unroll as they’ve been planned by RCA.

Adam is going to get all the publicity necessary at the AMAs and–WHEN HIS CD COMES OUT. Why should RCA waste a Leno or Today show appearance for the single?? As I’ve said, Adam has gotten incredible publicity ever since he was on AI. He’ll get a major round of tv appearances starting around the time his cd comes out, just like Cook and Archie got. Plus he’ll continue to get his entertainment magazine and tv show publicity. RCA and 19 have handled him better than any other runner up and for once can’t be blamed if things go wrong.

Don’t try to twist the facts, Carrie has never had a number one single on itunes but she certainly has had many that have charted in the Top ten, and her singles sell really well. She has three platinum selling singles, and 6 singles that have reached gold (and soon will add another with Cowboy Casanova).

Wow. Why so bitter? The point was that you don’t have to have a number one single to sell alot of albums. Also, after the season finale when we finally saw numbers- Kris was selling Heartless but Adam was selling albums. The fact that RCA releases singles closer to the album drop date shows they are more interested in album sales than singles anyway.

Adam tweeting that he loves this:

@adamlambert Loving this: http://bit.ly/1mX8bv (expand) >>>>> slick moves!!!

Adam tweeting that he loves this:

@adamlambert Loving this: http://bit.ly/1mX8bv (expand) >>>>> slick moves!!!

. He has Letterrman, Ellen, AMA, GMA, rumours about Oprah and SNL. Whats the problem?

Rumors of SNL (which are highly doubtful given their schedule), Oprah? maybe, but he thus far hasn’t performed on it like Cook has. Nevermind not doing the stuff for Hillary and the rest. So not that Adam doesn’t have some good stuff, but to characterize it as unusual or some STORM! is to me, misleading for anything other than setting up the idea that Adam has tons more promotion, so therefore has tons more expecations. I’m saying that the actual promotion Adam has had, isn’t all that massive or earth-shattering and that’s fine and in fact better. Otherwise he’d have to live up to earth-shattering in terms of sales and music and thus far if he were, he’d not doing well. So I’m just saying that putting aside that Adamstorm shtuff and looking more realistically at Adam’s actual promotion, not just net/fan buzz that may generate some articles, is more useful to Adam. Historical perspective is good.

Oh and not to say that fans shouldn’t still enjoy his being on shows and be happy about them. I know I am happy and looking forward to his performances. Cool opportunities in being on Letterman and AMA, but it’s not all that unprecedented when compared to some of the stuff DC got, and it’s not some great Storm! imho, and that’s all the better for Adam. YMMV of course.

“I like Adamstorm ‘“ it’s fun.”

much better than Kradam, which I never liked and glad that it is over

I’ve become very ‘techy’  in my devotion to all things Adam. Even managed to get that 2 hour movie of all his AI moments onto a DVD ‘“ that was challenging.

I hear ya didilynn…I’ve shocked myself with my own meager “techy” advances – all in the name of Adam. But that 2 hour AI movie has really got me interested – your own creation? Wouldn’t that be a sales goldmine??

Also really enjoying GaryJ today – thanks

Look at the line up of AMA, the chance that Adam’s performance will stand out is very small.

Look at the line up of AMA, the chance that Adam’s performance will stand out is very small.

Well, he has to work not to stand out in a bad way. These are GREAT performers, he is playing with the big boys/girls. I understand that it is taking a lot of his time.

“Look at the line up of AMA, the chance that Adam’s performance will stand out is very small.”

Agreed…..but it is the only reason I’m going to be watching the show;)

Adam tweeting that he loves this:

@adamlambert Loving this: http://bit.ly/1mX8bv (expand) >>>>> slick moves!!!

YAY! I’m happy he saw it.

Adam tweets:

Loving this: http://bit.ly/1mX8bv

Glad he got to see the vid. Raise your hand if you are one of the people that sent it to him today.

/ Raises hand.

‘Look at the line up of AMA, the chance that Adam’s performance will stand out is very small.’ 

Agreed’ ¦..but it is the only reason I’m going to be watching the show;)

Me too! Aside from the Golden Globes and Oscars I don’t watch awards shows in their entirety to often.

/ Raises hand.

hand raised

It’s a huge deal that Adam is being given this opportunity, and the number of viewers he’ll have for this one night’s performance will undoubtedly make it worth missing out on a few opportunities between now and then.

Why shoudn’t he do both? This idea that the AMAs are the be all and end all and somehow are some MASSIVE time suck, just doesn’t jibe with the fact that doing some 10 minute radio interiew, doesn’t take that much time, nor does it jibe with the fact that Adam has been able to do 2012 promotional stuff in the meantime. And as was pointed out last night, they had David Cook doing radio promotions, even on top of everything else. With FYE not doing gangbusters on iTunes right now, or on Amazon, there are still over two weeks to promote the single AND the album, and to not take advantage of that time between now and then, would be stupid imho. And we’re not talking about ‘wasting’ the appearances on Letterman, GMA, or Ellen or whatever for the single and not the album. Those will be like Kris’s, after their respective albums drops. But in the meantime there is time and energy and ways to promote the single on radio or whatever.

And given the lack of promotion for FYE thus far and it’s weakness in sales thus far, it certainly wouldn’t hurt the single or the album to do some radio promos and local stuff. That isn’t going to get in the way of national album promoting after the next two weeks when it drops. One can transition to the other, and won’t be getting in the way of the other, or taking away from the other. And instead a stronger single with more radio play, can lead to more album exposure and hopefully more sales.

Look at the line up of AMA, the chance that Adam’s performance will stand out is very small.

I don’t think Adam’s “standing out” is the point here. He just needs to hold his own among a group of sensational acts, and the fact that the AMA people have asked him to participate means they have faith he will. That, to me, is very impressive!

well… he might not stand out in that they are all great performers but when people remember/are told that he is a newbie and making his single debut he will be a stand out because he is (hopefully) right on par with them.

and my addiction has reached a new level of sickness… i found out i got a job interview on the 23rd and my second thought (after being relieved i finally got an interview) was not about plane tickets or putting together my job talk…oh no. it was “SHIT! i’m gonna be traveling when Adam is on the AMAs and interviewing the day the album drops and everyone will be exploding!”…. i’m a goner.

Why shoudn’t he do both?

I’m sure he WILL do both. We’re just talking about a couple weeks’ delay here. And we don’t know how DC would have handled his other media responsibilities had he been asked to be in the main AMA show because he wasn’t. No Idol at this point in their career has been asked to do the AMAs.

I didn’t know the objective of the AMA’s was to stand out. I thought it was to get to showcase your music with other high profile acts. It’s another platform. It’s not the Adam show, and it’s true, I wouldn’t watch it if here weren’t on it (I am not sure I ever have before). I would like to see more promo by our friends at RCA in the next couple of weeks for FYE, but I think Letterman is going to do a great deal in boosting Adam’s viability. Every time I listen to FYE (the single), I think, No, it’s not my favorite (as opposed to TfM), but it would fit right in on HAC/Top 40., and it’s getting more spins, if not more adds (yet). so I think it’ll do just fine.

I didn’t send Baby Desmond, BTW, someone else did. ADORABLE. I, of course, RTed afterwards.

It’s not the Adam show, and it’s true, I wouldn’t watch it if here weren’t on it (I am not sure I ever have before).

A lot of sites posts the performances after the show, especially if you do something good (Perez for example). Perez posted Mad World by Adam for example.
Actually that is how I saw him the first time.

Adam made the must have list on EW mag

http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20310286_20317651,00.html

Carrie is performing at the AMA’s, for the CMA’s she’s performing and hosting yet shes been doing radio interviews non stop this week. I would imagine she’s got more on her plate and she’s finding the time.

lol,there’s an American idol reference in gene weingarten’s column in Washington post magazine.yes,i’m a tard.:D

I’m just excited for the ama’s

15 days(i think, too lazy to check)

I wish they started promotion if fye

it still doesn’t have a banner on iTunes and it moved down.hopefully his album sales will be better

I like the Sony ad thing on the Internet.

thisweek gasbeen slow on Adam news.but I guess that’s expected after theadamstorm last week.

ok,bye guys

can’t edit.sorry for the typos…

I just watch all of Adams Season 8 performances (from MJ’s site). I was totally drained when I got done. Even after all this time, each week is an emotional experiences. The range, the emotion, the stage presents had me in tears. Then I put on FYI. Admittedly there is no vid. to see him put himself into the performance, etc. however it totally left me flat. It has a nice sing song melody but nothing that catches your heart and hangs on. It is a very big let down for me. He took so many “cover” songs and made them his own. FYI seems like a average “cover” of a song done many times before. Im still holding out hope that the rest of the album with give us the Adam that we love. Than makes up weep and cry and clap and shout and, etc.

MDMOLINARI lets see ur best @AdamLambert For Your Entertainment choreographed dance video!!! http://bit.ly/1ODiI8

and the competition begins!

I’m sure he WILL do both. We’re just talking about a couple weeks’ delay here. And we don’t know how DC would have handled his other media responsibilities had he been asked to be in the main AMA show because he wasn’t. No Idol at this point in their career has been asked to do the AMAs

Why waste two weeks? What’s the point of wasting time? A very good point here:

Carrie is performing at the AMA’s, for the CMA’s she’s performing and hosting yet shes been doing radio interviews non stop this week. I would imagine she’s got more on her plate and she’s finding the time.

Indeed. And Carrie is a VERY successful recording artist at this point, and yet she is doing tons of promotion, everywhere she can, on top of an AMA performance, oh and hosting the CMAs where she’s going to have 9ish wardrobe changes. Yes, somehow I think that Adam can squeeze in some other promotions.

Carrie is performing at the AMA’s, for the CMA’s she’s performing and hosting yet shes been doing radio interviews non stop this week. I would imagine she’s got more on her plate and she’s finding the time.

I just truly think RCA must know what they’re doing, so I’m not concerned. I’m sure Adam didn’t say he couldn’t do any radio interviews, etc., in the meantime. This is a decision that was made way above his head, and, since they’ve successfully handled myriad entertainers before him, I’m sure they have a plan they’re following.

Carrie is performing at the AMA’s, for the CMA’s she’s performing and hosting yet shes been doing radio interviews non stop this week. I would imagine she’s got more on her plate and she’s finding the time.

Yup, I am sure Adam is just lying by the pool side being the same old unprofessional slacker he has always been. Let Carrie show him and RCA how it’s really done.

MDMOLINARI lets see ur best @AdamLambert For Your Entertainment choreographed dance video!!! http://bit.ly/1ODiI8

and the competition begins!

LOL!

I like Adamstorm ‘“ it’s fun.

Me, too, squirrely. It’s funny, IMO. And who outside of the Idol Bubble knows or cares about it? It isn’t a BIG DEAL. It’s just Adam stans like me getting excited about FYE and all of his publicity and the like. Nothing wrong with that, right? Kris has been busting his butt promoting LLWD and KA b/c Jive has set it up for him. Whenever RCA says, Hey, we set this up for you, Adam, or someone else does (e.g., Details Mag, InStyle, RS, of course), he’s going to do it, unless it doesn’t fit, and thus far that doesn’t seem to have been the case. I think RCA knows the talent they have in Adam, and if they blow it, it would shock me. Guess we’ll see. I don’t really see Adam at the Jingle Balls (not that he couldn’t do them, I’m just not sure it is the best venue for him), but if RCA set one up for him, he’d do TomT or MW or Starlight, like he did at the Ford Shareholders meeting. I suspect that they are focusing on the AMAs, tho a few promotional interviews (around the single specifically, not TfM/2012, which I am listening to at this moment, BTW) wouldn’t be a bad idea.

It’s nice that Adam is still on Twitter, and that he got to see youth doing choreo to FYE. Again, this proves how invested he is in education (THIS is the video he chose to tweet about), and vice versa.

Good for Kris! That’s very cool about the LLWD vid going on VH-1.

Also, I think the fact that Carrie is an ESTABLISHED artist has a lot to do with the workload/exposure they’re allowing her to have right now. Adam is just starting out, just finished a stressful show, followed by a grueling tour, injected with and followed by rapid recording of AT LEAST 14 new songs, working with an array of producers/writers. Maybe they think this is a good time to let him take a quick breath before the next leg of his journey begins. Maybe they have a lot lined up for him after the AMAs for which they think he’ll need his wits about him.

I wonder if he got the guy in the kitchen – I really liked his hand gestures.

Hey everyone!
I just read where someone listened to all of Adam on season 8…Just did the same!..Totally blown away again and especially…with him with
“Queen”…no wonder Roger Taylor said what he did on BBC the other day. I am so excited for him on the AMA’s and I know he will hold his own and then some with all performers…After all guys, he has been performing all types of music since a youngster and the stage is his home and “he owns it”…always has, always will!!!
Now, anyone who has time, search/ for Adam Lambert/Smile and listen to MJ sing to Adam’s smiles…great way for me to finish my day here in Arkansas!!!! Love that Adam!

Trina
11/07/2009 at 7:46 pm

Carrie is performing at the AMA’s, for the CMA’s she’s performing and hosting yet shes been doing radio interviews non stop this week. I would imagine she’s got more on her plate and she’s finding the time.

Is Carrie a new artist who has been auditioning for band members, is Carrie auditioning back up dancers and practicing a routine with them and getting the band to play FYE like he wants
as Adam himself is involved with details of routine, costumes, etc.

Maybe they think this is a good time to let him take a quick breath before the next leg of his journey begins.

Believe me, he is not on a break. The organizer for the AMA said he had a video conference with Adam going over all the details of his performance. Meaning they had to have those details ready.

Yup, I am sure Adam is just lying by the pool side being the same old unprofessional slacker he has always been. Let Carrie show him and RCA how it’s really done.

LOL Actually, that’s what Ferras is doing–he keeps tweeting about it (he’s in Mexico). Aimee is on her way back from Africa. Oh, and Alisan Porter’s album is now on iTunes. I would buy it but I already downloaded it from the website she pointed us to so I am not going to do it again (I highly recommend it, however; nice songs and she has a beautiful voice).

I want to see the choreo contest.

And the problem with One, which is beautiful in the studio recording (I am listening to it now), is that they f**ked it up in the performance version (it that was Simon, who worked with Adam on it, then he shouldn’t arrange songs anymore). They split it up in funky ways. They got on Kris about his OR song, but I wish Adam had stayed true to U2′s version, b/c it really is a great version in studio. And Crazy sounded crappy on television (thank you, off-key background singer), but the reviewer on EW.com who was at the taping said it actually sounded good. Sadly, TV viewers didn’t get to hear that, b/c he still made it to Top 2, so that was the goal.

Adam tweeting that he loves this:

@adamlambert Loving this: http://bit.ly/1mX8bv (expand) >>>>> slick moves!!!

Our boy has good taste. I love it, too!

Nobody knows what Adam is doing now (maybe he is at the pool, or maybe he’s working, or maybe he’s drinking margaritas, or maybe…), or what RCA’s plans are, or everything that is coming up… it’s all conjecture. I have long since given up trying to understand what the hell RCA is doing with David Cook (I have less heartburn that way), so I wouldn’t begin to guess the big plan with Adam!

You know, David Cook didn’t perform at the AMA’s last year – but he and his band did play a set on the AMA red capet right before the show, which was televised. So, in a way, DC did fit in the AMAs with all the other stuff.

Adam made the must have list on EW mag

http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20310286_20317651,00.html

He’s #1, and we get Tour!Adam picture with emo hair (shallow, I know). Lately, he’s ended up on the bulls eye at the back–last time, he got dissed for the album cover–so this is nice promotion. I just tweeted him about it, tho I have no doubt he knew about it BEFORE it came out.

I bet they have a ton of stuff lined up for Adam after the AMAs, which are two weeks and one day away, not months. I would like more adds, but I think he’s gonna get a lot of exposure–a TON–once the album drops and we get to talk about it here (kidding about that, tho we will for many, many hours and pages). The 2012 Black Carpet event garnered a lot of interviews and press, and he just did the song for it (tho perhaps it will get an Oscar nom, yes, please). If all goes well at the AMAs, with his album dropping the next day, I think there will be a few interviews (or a lot). And the fact that he is NOT established artist and is still performing is a freaking BIG DEAL.

Ferras tweeted me (re: sitting poolside and not going out tonight after some carousing)

OhFerras

@suebrody1 girl you got me pegged! haha21 minutes ago from web in reply to suebrody1

lol

Believe me, he is not on a break. The organizer for the AMA said he had a video conference with Adam going over all the details of his performance. Meaning they had to have those details ready.

Yeah, I just meant a break from additional media expectations while he prepares for the AMAs.

Yup, I am sure Adam is just lying by the pool side being the same old unprofessional slacker he has always been. Let Carrie show him and RCA how it’s really done.

No one is saying Adam is a slacker. Quite the opposite, I know that Adam is willing and more than able to do his bit with promoting stuff before the AMAs. The problem isn’t Adam, it’s whether he’s going to be set up with the other stuff. Again, Carrie can do it, David Cook did last year, and I believe Adam can…if he’s given that chance. He can’t set up this on his own, that is what RCA should be doing.

So please, no one is saying Adam is lazy. Not the point, like at all.

The acutal point is RCA giving Adam the opportunity and chances to do the promotion they should be setting up now and for the next few weeks. I think it will be a big miss on their part, not Adam’s, if they hinge every single thing on the AMA performance. THAT would be stupid

Yeah, I just meant a break from additional media expectations while he prepares for the AMAs.

why should he be expected not to do any other media for the next two weeks? Frankly I think that would be selling Adam short to think that he would need all that time for just one thing and couldn’t do anything else in the meantime, when other people like Carrie and David, have also done tons of promotions, in addition to things like that. I think more of Adam than that..

is Carrie auditioning back up dancers and practicing a routine with them

Yes. The hardcore Carrie fans can correct me if I’m wrong but I read some tweets for auditions for some dancing she will doing for the CMAs and AMAs.

Aren’t the AMA’s at the Nokia? Another reason, if it is, that Adam will feel right at home…he did own that stage! and knows that theatre!

Oh and while preparing for the AMAs, Adam has in fact done other promoting, it’s just been for 2012. So he has the time and energy, time to shift the boat to his single now, and not some film promo shtuff.

I just watch all of Adams Season 8 performances (from MJ’s site). I was totally drained when I got done. Even after all this time, each week is an emotional experiences. The range, the emotion, the stage presents had me in tears.

I do that all the time, too. Watch the mv of TfM if you can, tho. as opposed to FYE (single). Cheesy lyrics or not, he looks great, and he brings real intensity to the character. Okay, and he looks really hawt. )

Anyway, if you watch PTFM or BTBW, you don’t think, WOW, THAT IS A GENIUS AT WORK (at least I don’t). I go, Wow, that was fun (BTBW) or interesting (PTFM). But neither was groundbreaking. What I will remember is BoW (such emotion), RoF, MW, ACIGC, IICHY (not me, everyone else), FG. WLL and SR were fierce, but I liked them better on Tour. So FYE is supposed to be fun, and it fits in with Top 40, so is a good intro to the audience he hopes in part to be introduced to, but I will take Aimee’s Sleepwalker or Matt Bellamy’s Soaked anytime. Note that Kris also released an uptempo song for his first single (as did Alli with FIBOU). Someone like Mat Kearney or James Morrison or Ray Lamontagne can’t do that–they don’t write uptempo songs–but it is not unusual to send a more uptempo song out there to sell the album (Carrie: Cowboy Casanova; Kelly: MLWSWY) and then going more mellow/intense later (Kelly Already Gone).

So FYE is supposed to be fun, and it fits in with Top 40, so is a good intro to the audience he hopes in part to be introduced to, but I will take Aimee’s Sleepwalker or Matt Bellamy’s Soaked anytime.

I love those songs too, really can’t wait for the album.. but the rock girl in me likes sure fire winners the best I think have to wait for the full version..

Been on a work trip but got a chance to check things out at MJ’s. I see some angst re FYE and I don’t understand it. This single is just starting out. Adam has yet to do any promotion for it other than Ryan’s show. This is only the beginning folks. The biggest worry for me and it seemed to a lot of people was that Adam’s album would suck. After listening to the snippets I think this worry can be laid to rest. Adam has come up with an extremely STRONG DEBUT ALBUM, and this is the important thing to ensure his longevity. Everything else will come eventually IMO. FYE is still getting increased radio spins and it is a VERY good single, IMO. I for one am so happy this album is looking to be a good one, it is getting great reviews on the snippets and excitement is building even more for it from the media and fans. I am so RELIEVED I love this album and others do too. This is going to be great! Sorry for rambling, alot of pent up feelings. LOL!

To: aa618892

Great post. I agree with everything you said. Dont push the panic button yet, folks. This is just the beginning.

After listening to the snippets I think this worry can be laid to rest. Adam has come up with an extremely STRONG DEBUT ALBUM, and this is the important thing to ensure his longevity. Everything else will come eventually IMO.

Wise post . Absolutely agree with you, this is just beginning.

Carrie is performing at the AMA’s, for the CMA’s she’s performing and hosting yet shes been doing radio interviews non stop this week. I would imagine she’s got more on her plate and she’s finding the time.

Is Carrie a new artist who has been auditioning for band members, is Carrie auditioning back up dancers and practicing a routine with them and getting the band to play FYE like he wants
as Adam himself is involved with details of routine, costumes, etc.

Seriously? You’re comparing rehearsing/preparing for one performance against several performances on two different awards shows that includes hosting one of those awards show where she will also perform? And let’s not forget the fact that she’s been doing multiple performances on Ellen, GMA, Letterman, etc. for the past couple of weeks, all on top of her planning, rehearsing and taping a two-hour Christmas special starring herself in late October? Wow. Yeah, Carrie’s got it so much easier. She’s got no excuse not to be doing her gazillion radio and print interviews AT ALL.

By the way, no one’s saying Adam’s drinking margaritas by the pool, but RCA’s game plan in (so far) keeping him relatively quiet and away from press this week seems to be squandering a prime opportunity for promo. Hopefully, next week will show a steep increase in radio promo.

Took a nap and had a dream of Adam performing at the AMAs. (Weird because I never have dreams about him). Anyhow, he was inside a giant box wrapped like a present. Basically he was a gift to us. The song starts and he is catapulted out of the box but misses his footing on the landing and lands on his face, causing a bloody nose. He gets up and jokes about being on YouTube while everyone is laughing.

So….my expectations have been lowered to this: as long as he doesn’t fall on his face I’ll be happy!

aa618892-That was a nice post. If that’s rambling, I want to hear more rambling! I am very happy with the album too.

Oh and someone mentioned Sure Fire Winners. I can’t wait to hear that whole song!! It’s my favorite (for now, I tend to change them!).

You know, I think when we work our selves up about Adam’s career, we should take a step back, breathe deep, and relax just a bit. I mean, RCA/19 has invested major money in Adam. You don’t work to have a brand new essentially unknown artist have their first break on the AMAs. Not unless you have a PLAN. I can’t imagine that his team doesn’t know exactly what they are doing. Who would blow that kind of money???

You know, I think when we work our selves upi about Adam’s career, we should take a step back, breathe deep, and relax just a bit. I mean, RCA/19 has invested major money in Adam. You don’t work to have a brand new essentially unknown artist have their first break on the AMAs. Not unless you have a PLAN. I can’t imagine that his team doesn’t know exactly what they are doing. Who would blow that kind of money???

This ship can’t sink! I assure you, she can! point being, besides the chance to link to one of my favourite 30 second Bunny Theatres, is that yes, corporations make miscalculations all the time and spend lots of money and don’t necessarily do the best thing. And I’ll be toasting that sentiment with my New Cokes or one of my Clear Pepsis.

Adam was in yahoo week in pictures…don’t read the comments, very homophobic

http://omg.yahoo.com/photos/week-in-photos-november-1-7-2009/3363#id=11

Did I miss something?? The last I saw the story in HDD said that RCA was going to start working the single this coming week. Did a schedule come out detailing all of Adam’s appearances/interviews next week or are assumptions being made yet again? It’s not like these radio interviews are announced all in advance, at least that hasn’t been the case for Kris. All I’ve seen is ontd_ai twitter stalkers find out right before and let people know a d someone somewhere manages to record it. Why would it be all that different for Adam? I haven’t read through the whole thread, if a schedule came out could someone repost the link? Thanks!

” corporations make miscalculations all the time and spend lots of money and don’t necessarily do the best thing. And I’ll be toasting that sentiment with my New Cokes or one of my Clear Pepsis.”

You’re right, but d*mn, New Coke and Clear Pepsi tasted bad…..Adam=DELICIOUS;)

I also love his version of I Just Love You but I think my fav from Upright Cabaret is Come Home ‘“ makes me tear up. I figured out how to convert those from youtube and get them into my iPhone ‘“ I’ve become very ‘techy’  in my devotion to all things Adam.

Didilynn, I like “Come home” too…I managed to dub it to cassette, along with IJLY, so you can see I’m not only low-tech, but living in a previous technology generation too.

I try not to play the cassette in the car (the 2001 VW Jetta I have was I think the last year for cassette players) because it’s hard to concentrate on traffic when you’re crying.

I’m sure you noticed that the YouTube video of Adam at Upright Cabaret singing “Come home” is almost a physical performance, as well as a vocalist sitting in front of a microphone and belting out a song. He is so filled with emotion during this video performance, that there is a point where you say to yourself, “OMG, is he going to be able to finish the song?” Very, very few vocalists can pack this kind of emotional punch. Now that I’ve got “Come home” on audio cassette, I’m only getting half a loaf…but it still makes me tear up, so I’ve still got to watch it in traffic.

The state legislature should ban Adam singing “Come home” and “I just love you” on car stereos, because of the traffic hazard they might create.

It’s a shame many Adam fans outside the AI bubble don’t know about these two great ballads from Upright Cabaret.

I wonder if Adam will be making a repeat performance at that show (I think it was December 31 of last year at Mark’s Restaurant, which I guess is in West Hollywood) — does anyone know?

And thanks didilynn for the kind words…

Took a nap and had a dream of Adam performing at the AMAs. (Weird because I never have dreams about him). Anyhow, he was inside a giant box wrapped like a present. Basically he was a gift to us. The song starts and he is catapulted out of the box but misses his footing on the landing and lands on his face, causing a bloody nose. He gets up and jokes about being on YouTube while everyone is laughing.

So’ ¦.my expectations have been lowered to this: as long as he doesn’t fall on his face I’ll be happy!

Didn’t the Jonas Brothers fall on their face during a performance once? My sister dreamed Adam had VMA Britney Spears meltdown …. I’m scared

To: aa618892

Great post. I agree with everything you said. Dont push the panic button yet, folks. This is just the beginning.

I also agree. I think it is only over-anxious fans who hope for/expect instant success for Adam. He himself knows it’s not that easy, and he’s clearly in it for the long haul. From what we know of Adam, if he were unhappy with how he is being represented, he’d probably make that known.
My biggest worry was that Adam wouldn’t be able to make an album that showcases his talent and versatility. Based on FYE and the snippets, I’m confident that the album is of superior quality and sounds like Adam in all his incarnations.
When I get nervous, I remind myself of the incredible collaborators who have come together to work with him, and of the praise that has been heaped upon him by industry insiders. I’d rather Adam achieve long-term success than be a one-hit wonder.

As long as it’s better than this I will be happy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHzWHnpCZkM

eta: by this I mean Adam’s AMA performance.

Did someone mention COME HOME, my favorite Adam song (as stated, sang at Upright) EVER?! I do not think it is possible to sing a song as brilliantly and feel it as acutely as Adam did that night. And when he gasped at the end and could barely finish…*snif* Srsly, how could you NOT be moved by a performance like that?! And I Just Love You? *quiver* Dust In The Wind is beautiful, too. Wow. I wish I had seen him just one at Upright….

Gary, marry me.

I love Adam’s voice, I know he wants to make fun music, but with his chops…man, I want to hear his range. I want Soaked, I want Sleepwalker, I want Broken Smile, I want TfM. I want his voice to bend and break.

I’m not skeered…well, maybe a little skeered…I’m neurotic…I’ll feel better once the album comes out and it sells well, WHICH I AM SURE IT WILL.

Squirrely-Thanks for that, I loved it! But I do think AMA will be a bit better, huh?

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that so many David Cook fans from AI7 are also Adam Lambert fans here at mj’s. It doesn’t matter if they place Cookie first or Adam first. Or think they’re both great (since they are).

Not me. I don’t think they are both great. I’m a David Cook and Kris Allen Fan. I think there are quite a few similarities between David and Kris that drew me to them … besides the plaid.

Neither one of them has come close to the success of either of the Davids from S7. And I don’t see anyone calling Cook or Archie any kind of superstar ‘” let alone an international one.

From what RCA is apparently telling us, via their promotion, American rock is not as popular in Europe. Daughtry is just being promoted there now — after all this time — and, with David C, they’re not even trying yet. Sad for them. But, that must be their tastes. They must really not like American rock, unless it is very, very well established.

Now I want to re-watch every S7 group performance’ ¦ Forgot how fun they were. Cheese-tastic!

They were wonderful. I watch them many times over.

It’s not always about quantity. Quality is important too. (And this is in no way meant as a diss towards David C’ ¦)

Really? Which part of David Cook’s appearances/promotions were not quality?

You know, David Cook didn’t perform at the AMA’s last year ‘“ but he and his band did play a set on the AMA red capet right before the show, which was televised. So, in a way, DC did fit in the AMAs with all the other stuff.

Yeah, when you think about how and David Cook and his band, including Neal, Andy, and Kyle, did not get to perform on the actual AMA’s, you know where music is now….

suebrody- Honestly I am not even worried about album sales. If it is good it will sell even if it takes awhile to catch on. All indications are (and I just listned to those snippets again, LOVE THEM!) that it is a very good album, better than many expected. This is what is important and will allow Adam to continue making music. Take a deep breath now and have faith.

If I was stranded on a deserted island and could have only ONE Adam song to listen to it would be: What’s Goin On, from the Upright Cabaret. Why? The intro show how he always give credit to other performers, and also shows his sense of humor. The song show his unbelievable range of vocals and range of emotions. He shows his charming personality when he interacts with the patrons and then he brings it back and closes it as only he can do. This clip doesn’t show it but in most other clips it shows that he then gives credit to the
pianist . What song would you bring?

retjenny- It may be surprising but the song I would chose would be ACIGC (live or studio). The live version to me was the most brilliant performance ever on AI and the studio version just slays me. His emotion and interpretation of this song make me want to scream LISTEN TO THIS PEOPLE ONE OF THE GREATEST VOICES EVER! Of course on a desert island no one would hear me, sad.

“suebrody
11/07/2009 at 8:17 pm
Ferras tweeted me (re: sitting poolside and not going out tonight after some carousing)”

Farras Schmarasssss; What about Quinten???? What does our Mentor d’Zed say?

SueBeeee, I want to know what QT’s little taste tasted like!!!!

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh

I confess that a quiet Adam week meant to me at times too that RCA already failed, his career is over, FYE is a bust, he’d be lucky to play in Peoria if international at all, etc. My guess is Adam had to do 2012 promotion, is rehearsing like crazy for the AMAs performance, as well as the GMAs and Letterman. I think he may have a different backing band set-up at least for the AMAs, so I wonder if he has several sets of rehearsals. Considering how control freak Adam is, I bet he’s on top of every single thing the musicians, dancers are wearing, plus his own outfits. (It still seems like designers aren’t racing to dress Adam, sadz, unless Rock and Republic provided that jacket).

Comparing Adam to Carrie is weird. Adam’s brand new. It seems to me like Adam has the label peeps but not an entourage – it’s very much himself. So I’m curious about the process by which he (and Kris too) picked their band members.

edit: DO NOT QUESTION THE MOTIVES OF POSTERS

That said, I can also see that side of the equation. I wouldn’t say I’m disappointed, just that I’m looking forward to the entire album. I didn’t like the feeling of the album from the snippets at first, of it being an anthology of current pop/rock acts: here’s my: Muse, Gaga, Pink, Darkness, Weezer, One Republic, Aerosmith song. Adam’s voice throughout sounds amazing as always. Curiously I don’t see this kind of criticism leveled at him, which makes me feel relieved, and I think it’s a trust of Adam the artist as taking those songs and really making them his songs. After the first listen, I pretended not to know the derivation of each and every song, and focused on how they sounded. They’re great, some definitely more than others, but solid.

Certainly Ann Powers’s article was some sort of media. Maybe radio promo will be the week leading up to the AMAs?

The gist is that I can’t in the end be negative or critical, as an overinvested fan, though I definitely go there at times. Just hopeful. I’d love for Adam to succeed and be legit, and be loved for his music.

F***K! If I listen to Adam sing the line “I never felt so satisfied” in that seeeexxxy voice again I am going to lose my mind! What am I going to do when I have the whole thing?

Well, I have been lurking for the last few months and have been on MJ’s more hours than I care to admit. I have felt like a crazy person these last few months reading about Adam, listening to Adam, watching Adam, going to concerts to see 20 minutes of Adam, buying magazines, that I normally wouldn’t buy, because of Adam. I recently added the album snippets to my IPod and I spent over two hours today, listening to these amazing snippets. How crazy is that? I have no doubt that this album is going to be fantastic. I am going back to my lurking now.

Just the way RCA went about releasing Adam’s debut single is so strange. They suddenly released it on itunes in the middle of the day on Wednesday. No ad and its not even listed as a new release. And this is different from other idols where they released their singles months before the album was due. It’s hard to get momentum off a single that is released this close to the date the album drops, and they released it randomly…? This just makes no sense to me.

Truthiness, I like reading your posts, but I wonder what about Adam still appeals to you? You didn’t like TFM, didn’t like the video, didn’t like FYE, I don’t think you liked the snippets, and think RCA failed on promotion. I know all this isn’t inherent in saying Adam’s not cutting it for you or anyone else, but it reads to me like the fact that a person doesn’t like the marketing strategy means they are also (perhaps naturally) disappointed in Adam the person or singer.

I love when people question my fandom, it makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. And questioning a marketing strategy and a corporation and how they handle things, just makes sense to me a general rule, much less when it comes to Adam and the two have nothing to do with each other. I was honestly wondering when someone was going to say maybe I wasn’t really a fan of Adam anymore (ever?). For the record, again, I actually love FYE, I think Adam looks good in TfM, but think the CGI of the video is for crap. I don’t like the song TfM, but for the song (though I still put the MV version ahead of LLWD), I think Adam’s voice is immaculate. And actually I like almost all the snippets, but the Pink and Weezer songs, and I actually posted that oddly even though I wasn’t as fond of the song, the Pink song snippet was staying in my head for days. Weird, but okay.

Just because I don’t think RCA isn’t doing a good job right now in their promotion and am being realistic about Adam’s numbers with TfM and FYE, doesn’t mean I’m not a fan. It actually means the opposite. It means I’m a fan who wants more for him and is realistic enough to look at the amounts of promotion that David Cook did last year, or Carrie is doing this year, and realizing that Adam can do more and yes, needs to do more. Music is a tough business in the best of times, this is not the best of times. For the economy and especially music sales in particular. And yeah, thus far Adam hasn’t done was as well as some other AIers in the past. So for his sake, as a fan, I want RCA to help him realize the talent I think he has, because I like him as a person and artist and want to hear from him in both capacities, for years to come. But wilfully talking about Adam storms! alone and hinging everything on one performance or, to me, in my view is setting up Adam to fail by proclaiming him having the bestest mostest unsual promotion ever, doesn’t do him any favours. And I discuss my views, others discuss their views, and thtat’s all cool. Unless one is questioning my Adam standom, because I think it’s pretty clear to non-Adam fans that I am one. Just because my Adam standom might look differently and doesn’t include references to terms others use, doesn’t mean I don’t do things like buying the TfM single when I’m not fond it. Buying the AO deluxe album, and FYE from iTunes and will buy a CD from Amazon. Standom is like all things, different strokes for different folks and discussion is good and doesn’t mean one is not a fan. Otherwise two legs baaaad, four legs gooood.

Yeah, when you think about how and David Cook and his band, including Neal, Andy, and Kyle, did not get to perform on the actual AMA’s, you know where music is now’ ¦.

But, I’m sure the “solid gold dancers” will get to perform, though.

I love when people question my fandom, it makes me feel all warm and squishy inside. And questiong corporations and how they handle things, just makes sense to me a general rule, much less when it comes to Adam and the two have nothing to do with each other…oddly even though I wasn’t as fond of the song, the Pink song snippet was staying in my head for days. Weird, but okay.

Awww, sorry Truthiness, it’s not your “fandom” I mean to call out. Not sure how the ANIMAL FARM reference fits? I’ve been reading along for ages, and your posts, along with Q3, FifthHouseSun and a few others were always cool because they didn’t seem to me to be gushing OMG UNF type assessments of Adam. I’m fascinated by him, but not a huge fan of everything (I don’t like the Upright Cabaret stuff, but that’s because I don’t like cabaret). I wondered if it was emblematic of fans of Adam that they’d become disenchanted with him post AI. If Adam loses his AI fans before he’s had a chance to connect to new fans, then he has a lot of ground to gain.

I wish there was some RCA insider to reassure people that they’re not dropping the ball. Yeah, Adam has huge potential, but still, it’s only potential. And I agree that the AMAs isn’t as huge a thing if people don’t turn in to watch it. I trust that somehow, Adam will find a way to be talked about after that show, despite 17 other powerful performers. Will that “save” his single? I have no clue. Hopefully it’ll generate enough interest so there will be continued interest as he does more media. Maybe I don’t have the right perspective of gloom because I didn’t follow the Davids last year, so they weren’t in my radar at. all. Hm, maybe that proves the point that Adam is completely not in people’s radar at. all. But he still gets to be joked about for being gay during late night monologues (oh joy).

Anyway, sorry to be so insensitive in my post. In no way do I feel “good” fans have to buy multiple copies of the music, etc. Funnily enough, I felt the same way about What Do Ya Want from Me – I’ve been humming it all day. Probably after reading the Matt Giraud quote about him not being able to get it out of his head. That and Fever stick in my head.

2012 trailer just played on TV – still no Time for Miracles in the TV spots, grrr.

I also love his version of I Just Love You but I think my fav from Upright Cabaret is Come Home ‘“ makes me tear up. I figured out how to convert those from youtube and get them into my iPhone ‘“ I’ve become very ‘techy’  in my devotion to all things Adam.

When I see this (his performance of Come Home), with all that emotion, it astounds me that in Hollywood Week he was told by Simon and Kara that he wasn’t emotionally connecting with his songs (and he said in an IA interview before ‘Satisfaction’ that Kara enlightened him a lot about that). I don’t know how to do links, so hope this works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq7OVHBc8ZA

I for one don’t give a rat a$$ how past, present or future Idols are being promoted other than Adam. When I see Adam, he is happy and that makes me happy. When Adam starts complaining or writing songs about how his label company sucks, than I will jump on his bandwagon and starting complaining. As of right now I am very satisfied with the way RCA is standing by their man by giving what he wants and needs. I believe they know what they are doing. Adam is no shrinking violet and if he has issues with the way he is being handled, he will handle his business. If Adam fails and falls flat on his face and has to crawl back to Broadway, where they will be waiting with open arms for him, I will be the first in line to get my ticket.

i don’t know why we think Adam hasn’t done as well as those that have gone before him. He is the #2 guy, not the winner. SO comparing him to Cook and Carrie isn’t exactly fair. So there are only 2 other successful #2 guys to compare him with: Archie and Clay. Now, I didn’t follow either of these two guys post idol. I think it is safe to say that Adam may not be doing as well as Clay or Archie at this early point in his career but you have to remember that those two guys came off of two very popular, tightly contested finales. It felt like the entire country was invested in Reuben vs. Clay or David vs. David. This year wasn’t like that. And also, Adam is a different sort of artist. He is not easily embracebale like Archie or Clay. He is edgy and controversial from the get go. I think that creates some challenges for his management and the radio communities. But seriously, I think soon we will be hearing FYE everywhere. Do I wish they had released his single 3-4 weeks ago? Heck yeah! And do I wish the itunes launch had gone smoother, you know it! But those things aside, I feel things are lining up well for Adam. When he starts doing promo on radion and all, he will soar. He is excellent in all media genres, extremely personable, intelligent, and articulate. And he has talent through the roof. Remember, Adam is a smart guy. He still seems veryy comfortable to me in interviews and the press when talking about his career. I don’t think he is worried about the way he is being managed. So I don’t think we should over stress either. Not saying a little anxiety isn’t normal but really some of what I read on this and other blogs is excessive. I think I come to this from the stand point of a Jason Castro fan. A year ago, I and the fan comm I frequent the most, was wringing my hands in anxiety that he would ever get a record deal, and castigating his management for missing opportunities and not doing things right, etc. Now look. He is signed. Has a single that is steadily increasing in radio adds and spins, and has what looks like a very good, true to himself album coming out in January. Adam is leaps and bounds ahead of where Jason Castro was last year and is now. Adam has everything for success laid out before him. If he doesn’t succeed, wow, all I can say is that it just wasn’t meant to be. But I think it IS meant to be. I can feel it. I knew it from “Satisfaction”.

I have been lurking for months too. I guess I am on minority side here. I am not that confident about his album sale if there is no music video on TV to promot it. But, I DO believe that he will stand out on AMA performance. Honestly, I do not like his WLL and other rock song’ studio version, although I have all of them, I do not play them at all. But, I DO enjoy watching him performing those songs. Same as TfM, I did not like it enough to buy it at the begining, until I watch the his video.

Now is FYE. It is not my type of music, so I did not buy. But, I might buy the video if they have it for sale.

Back to lurking. Good night every one. really enjoy reading all of your posts.

The new Wanda Sykes show just had a part where she shows Adams new Album Cover. I missed what she said at first but she ended by saying “Pretty”

dhunken
11/07/2009 at 11:32 pm
The new Wanda Sykes show just had a part where she shows Adams new Album Cover. I missed what she said at first but she ended by saying ‘Pretty’ 

She said Adam was a pretty girl.

When I see this (his performance of Come Home), with all that emotion, it astounds me that in Hollywood Week he was told by Simon and Kara that he wasn’t emotionally connecting with his songs

Simon also objected to Adam being on the show at all, saying he was “too theatrical”. Translation: he’s gay.

The show’s producers packed AI8 with wackos this year: Tatiana, Norman Gentle, and Bikini Girl were the obvious ones. We have come to regard Kara as a much-maligned guilty pleasure, but some people think she belongs in the wacko category.

Before AI8, Simon was almost regarded as infallible. Now, not so much.

Adam is international superstar

Don’t think so. Not yet. Maybe…Maybe not.

The show’s producers packed AI8 with wackos this year: Tatiana, Norman Gentle, and Bikini Girl were the obvious ones.

Now, why do you think they did that? To pave the way for a Kris Allen win?

Why I am not worrying about Adam.
I started watching American Idol in 2006. After each finale I was forgetting who won. I had problem remembering David Cook last name, since there were two Davids.
Until this year.
Why?
Because Adam does what he promised. He entertains me.
I cannot say that I like every song on his CD, but I love at least 5.
That’s a lot. Worth buying…:o)

Oh, some of you have so little faith lol! Here and now is Adam’s time to shine! I have no doubts whatsoever that his album will be successful. I have complete and total faith in Adam. RCA has been around for a long time, and I think they know what they have in Adam.

Someone upthread said the AMA’s has about 10 million viewers. That’s 10 MILLION Viewers! Adam can more than hold his own with all the other big names performing. Heck, I’m expecting him to even upstage a few. During the AI season and the tour, he OWNED the stage every time he stepped out on it. That’s why they asked him to perform in the first place. If they didn’t have complete confidence that he could do it, they wouldn’t have asked him.

Yes, i-tunes was messed up. I would not be at all surprised if more people are buying the entire album, and not buying i-tunes. We have no idea how his sales have been, and worrying about it is pointless. He’s been in the top 100 album sales at Amazon, getting close to 40 days now. I’m sure many, many fans have purchased his album from AO. I know I have. Traffic on his site has been averaging between 600-700 logged in members, whereas it used to be 300-400.

I think Q3 posted earlier today that the radio push will start next week. I’m sure we’ll start seeing more adds and radio spins. We just need to be patient. Adam has said his label has been very supportive. He’s not the cowering type, and I think will speak up if he feels he’s not being handled correctly.

I think Adam is in charge of his destiny a lot more than some will give him credit for.

QT is on the QT apparently, Architect.

So, anyway, one thing that used to bother but doesn’t really anymore is that I do not like everything that Adam or will do. No, you aren’t a true fan if you didn’t like his Zodiac work (I liked Pop Goes the Camera–most not really), if you don’t love his album cover (I don’t even like it), if you like TfM better than FYE (I do). I don’t care what others prefer or don’t, and I would like to think others will let me enjoy what I do or don’t. Adam would say there is something for everything on there, and I think that is completely true. There was always something about the core of Adam that resonated with me, that still does, and hopefully continue to.

I may be wrong, but I feel as if RCA has helped Cook little to none in terms of marketing himself. Maybe I’m wrong about that (am I?). So I don’t think RCA is less or more invested in Adam than they are in Cook or any other of their artists, but Adam is not as conventional as others, and despite mostly positive accolades from the press, accolades do not translate directly into purchases or concert revenue. So, yes, I am a bit concerned, b/c I am not sure the album itself, in its eclectic nature, will be such an easy sell, and I want Adam to do really well, b/c of his talent and the struggles he has had. You can say that he’ll speak up if things aren’t going as he’d like them to, but seriously, he doesn’t have that kind of clout. Kelly sure doesn’t, years later, and may need to reconcile herself to indie status to get what she wants. But Jae, I certainly hope you are right.

One other thing. I always wondered why I was such a fan of David AND Adam but not as much of Kris. I can’t really say; I like Kris, I think he’s cute and still humble and down-to-earth, and he’s a good musician, certainly, but I guess I just find him charismatic or compelling enough as Cook and Adam are. JMHO. I do feel as if Cook and Adam own the stage, and I feel as if the stage swallowed up Kris during the Tour. I am not comparing, I am just answering the question of why Cook and Adam and not Kris. And I bought Kris’s pass and think I’ll like the album, but I don’t think it will *grab* me. And with Adam, it’s always been pretty much love (but occasionally hate, see IICHY and One, performance along with WLL, performance but not Tour, where I loved it, b/c he didn’t seem like a poseur, and I kind of felt that way on Idol; dunno why).

Oh, and yeah, the single that will always tear at me is Come Home, and I hope they release it to ITunes sometimes, so I can easily and legally download it to my Nano.

Okay, so finally, I do worry, b/c I don’t want him to be known as that Idol who did moderately well. I want him to be a very sucessful artist.

dhunken, I fear that Adam’s cover will be the butt of many late night shows (and was already dissed in EW two weeks ago, which then, ironically, put him at the top of the MUST list).

Do anybody actually know what RCA’s plan next two weeks? why all the bickering?

I have no idea–no bickering, just concern, I think. Someone has the roll-out schedule (Q3? KIrsten?) from RCA, perhaps, but I don’t know what it is. I just see another Idol doing a lot of press junkets, and want some for Adam.

Now, why do you think they did that? To pave the way for a Kris Allen win?

No. They had not a clue he would win. They didn’t give him an ounce of air time till Top 36. They got ratings. They will do whatever they can for ratings.

I’m sure he WILL do both. We’re just talking about a couple weeks’ delay here. And we don’t know how DC would have handled his other media responsibilities had he been asked to be in the main AMA show because he wasn’t.

True DC didn’t do the “main” AMA show, but wasn’t he there for the red carpet pre-show, and he did do more than one song didn’t he? I think doing a mini concert with more than one song took just as much preparation if not more than one song on the “main” show. And he still managed to do all the other promotions as well.

True DC didn’t do the ‘main’  AMA show, but wasn’t he there for the red carpet pre-show, and he did do more than one song didn’t he? I think doing a mini concert with more than one song took just as much preparation if not more than one song on the ‘main’  show. And he still managed to do all the other promotions as well

Right, ksgirlfordc. I pointed this out a few pages back. It was only the red carpet, but his performance WAS televised and he and his band did more than one song.

It looks like Adam and Kris might be meeting up again soon on the iTunes charts. Here are the latest iTunes numbers.

FYE – #67
LLWD – #78
TFM – #156
FIBOU – #207

I don’t understand all the fretting over FYE’s first week single sales. They don’t mean anything in the long run. LLWD has been written off about a half dozen time already on this website and it just hit the Top 40 on the pop charts. The numbers on Monday and Tuesday (radio station adds) are far more important for FYE right now than the sales numbers on Wednesday.

dhunken, I fear that Adam’s cover will be the butt of many late night shows (and was already dissed in EW two weeks ago, which then, ironically, put him at the top of the MUST list).

I think EW put Adam at the top of the Must list because of the music inside of it, not the cover.

I know I’ll grimace when the host holds up his cd cover when Adam does these talk shows. I really wish he would have chosen his FYE single cover instead. Oh well….

Me, too, jill16, me, too. That was edgy. This just seems like it’s setting him up for ridicule, and I’m tired of it. It is about the music, but EW made fun of the cover first, remember, and The Soup has already had a go at it.

Oh, well. Adam had a motivation; I know he’ll be fine.

‘Night.

“Here’s part 1 of an interesting new Adam interview: http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/entertainment/entertainment/view/20091107-234867/Flamboyant-Idol-likes-to-make-fans-feel-sexy”

I’m from the Phils and I’m looking forward for his tour in the country(Keep my fingers crossed).

Good evening…
well Im late to the party LOL (actually I kind of missed it but oh well) but I just wanted to weigh in..
I agree that its too early to fret about singles for any of the idols actually because none of their respective albums have come out and those sales will determine a lot…for instance whether they will be able to tour solo, etc…
FYE just came out and there hasnt been a lot of promotion because it seems Adams camp is gearing for the AMA performance and all of the performances/appearances that follow that…yes I do wish they would start playing FYE on the radio right now but so it would shoot to #1 but hes fairly new to the scene and its still a possibility…we will just have to wait and see…also a lot of fans probably got the single from AO and we dont know the numbers for that…
I do however think FYE needs more radio promo in the coming weeks…having magazine articles here and there and a few minutes on E! is not enough…more ppl need to be exposed to the song…Im also still not sure about the move to sell the single in three different places (AO, Amazon and now Itunes…barely LOL)..
we all know Adams strong point is his live performances and the AMA’s is a great platform as well as a challenge because there are a lot of popular stars lined up to perform… hopefully he will stand out and he will hit those crazy notes in the end of the song even though its a dance tune cuz his vocal heft is what truly sets him apart..so yeah thats my two cents…
c’mon RCA..more radio promo…oh and the video too…does anyone have any idea when he’ll be shooting the video for FYE?

truthiness

Just because my Adam standom might look differently and doesn’t include references to terms others use, doesn’t mean I don’t do things like buying the TfM single when I’m not fond it. Buying the AO deluxe album, and FYE from iTunes and will buy a CD from Amazon. Standom is like all things, different strokes for different folks and discussion is good and doesn’t mean one is not a fan. Otherwise two legs baaaad, four legs gooood

I agree (ducking while saying this) I haven’t downloaded FYE. I’m really not that crazy about it, may change my mind if/when a video comes out and may download the video if I like it. However, I downloaded TFM on iTunes because it showcases Adam’s voice really well. I also ordered Adam’s CD on Amazon and even paid extra to get 2 day shipping. I know I’m gonna love at least half the songs on the CD so it’s worth it to me to get the whole thing. So I am “hurting” Adam’s sales for FYE, but I’m not going to get something I’m not really liking. It’s a great dance song, but I prefer stuff like Soaked, I know I’m gonna love that song.

As for promotion, Adam has 3 big “bumps” coming up: the 2012 movie soundtrack, the AMA show and *probably* Oprah. All three are huge plusses. I think he’s going to build in the US and Canada and also go international. All the pros touting him can’t be wrong, as well as the fans!

I trust that somehow, Adam will find a way to be talked about after that show, despite 17 other powerful performers. Will that ‘save’  his single?

I still remember Madonna’s “Like A Virgin” performance on MTV in the mid 1980s. It was so out there that it just stood out. And at that time, (this was pre-voice lessons via EVITA) Madonna didn’t sound that good live. But the performance was enough to get her buzz. Adam sounds great live, so if the performance can be interesting and edgy, FYE will get a decent bounce and DJ interest.

The thing is that FYE sales this week do matter. It is debut week. The sales, charts positions are going to be in history of the song. “It debuted at / 10″ sounds more respectful than “It is debuted at /87. The worst debut for runner-up. Excellent sales would be a good publicity. Adam is lacking such good publicity so far. Hopefully his record debuts higher. Number one would be the best.

In case you haven’t heard the whole song Soaked yet …. this song is so pretty. I can’t wait to hear Adam sing the whole song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONkTCzxF_xM

I am not sure what the worries are all about .
Well Adam’s FYE is no. 51 in iTunes Top Songs. So even if iTunes did not seem to be the priority of his label to release his single, it is still ranking. And even if the massive campaign to sell a single isn’t seen, heard and felt yet. It still sold .

And at end of the day, it is the album sales that will count. Take a look at how the the Idol alums are rated. Its all about the album.
iTunes Charts Songs
AMERICAN IDOL ALUM ALBUM SALES

So to all who bought only the FYE album/s , thank you very much for being a kindred spirit and I hope you will decide to buy more after you get your copies and find that the songs are truly for your entertainment. You can then hopefully decide to gift these to others with confidence.

Plus, hey look at these kids . This is the video that Adam tweeted about.
They are in a way promoting FYE. Great dancers ! The kids here at home plus their friends are following these dance moves and enjoying themselves.
So let us follow these kids and enjoy Adam’s music.
Hey it’s all fun no need to fret.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jctnmDniRg

Well, because iTunes was frozen for so long, we don’t know how high FYE peaked on the charts, right? And what the heck is wrong with the edit function? Holy guacamole.

suebrody
11/08/2009 at 12:01 am

So, anyway, one thing that used to bother but doesn’t really anymore is that I do not like everything that Adam or will do. No, you aren’t a true fan if you didn’t like his Zodiac work (I liked Pop Goes the Camera’“most not really), if you don’t love his album cover (I don’t even like it), if you like TfM better than FYE (I do). I don’t care what others prefer or don’t, and I would like to think others will let me enjoy what I do or don’t. Adam would say there is something for everything on there, and I think that is completely true. There was always something about the core of Adam that resonated with me,
that still does, and hopefully continue to

I love the love you have for Adam, If you didn’t, you would not care so much about his career. Adam is multi talented, he can sing, dance and act, I see so many opportunities for him. I feel he will do very well in his music career but Adam himself said he wants to also do other things, right now his main focus is his music career and the same way his loyal fans who supported him on AI and throughout the tour will help carry him along the way and while on that journey he will continue to wow the rest of America because honestly who can resist. We are not going to love everything he does but heck there are things in my family that makes me want to scream, but I still love them. He’s a star
and he will shine, he has his family support, his label support , media support and the music industry support, what more can we ask for. Millions of people voted for him and fell in love with him ,the more they see him, the more they will get on board, it will take time.

I love Adam and really like David C. At the GM